Not Guilty
Once again, a Cook County jury stuns and amazes onlookers:
- A not guilty verdict on all counts!
Every officer in that courtroom was blown away. Every States Attorney was blown away. The pro- defense judge was blown away when she read the verdict.
The cop shooter admits to buying the gun off the street for 100dollars, shooting the gun numerous times, impeached himself countless times and was found not guilty. He goes free by a cook county jury. In my 19 years on this job I have never seen anything like this. He is a self admitted GD who will be free tonight. This is insanity.
We are flabbergasted.
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
211 Comments:
Beale?
Holy fuckin shit
Someone got to the Jury ???
The stupids don't understand the law. It's the publics belief in the acting/performance of these killers and Con artists and this departments inability to attack those who scrutinize policemen over what is legal and routine by the rules police work. Again WTF
It's not unbelievable to me, Cook County Juries are the ones who were not able to get out of jury duty. They could give a fuck, if someone is guilty or innocent. Just because this mutt is guilty as sin, and everyone is stunned by the verdict, doesn't mean anything. The fact remains that a MUTT is free to go, he will do it again that's a give me. Nothing will change until the public will once again as they did in the late 20's and 30's. They will get so fed up with crime, that they will demand that Law Enforcement take control, and use any means necessary to do it!!!!
Fucking animal! Fuck the jury and the Gangster Disciples. They are a bunch of inbreds who be sleeping with their cousins, brothers, and sisters.
After 17 years of this same bullshit all I can hope for is a career ending knee injury - with witnesses- so I don't have to deal with these fuckin mopes anymore
1st abd 16th. Prepare for the civil war.
Maybe it is TIME.
17 years of this bullshit and it's just getting worse, I don't know how much more I can take
Not Guilty?
OK...
The people of Chicago (and Cook County) have spoken loudly and clearly to The Police with this verdict...
Just a straight up mockery of the professionalism, courage and steadfastness of The Policeman.
How many more hints and clues will it take to show that this city is lost?
The people embrace madness and chaos.
The Police are the enemy... How many times are they going to have to tell you?
Adjust and govern yourselves accordingly.
ok, what are you even talking about. how about some details of what case this is and what happened.... because scc, im lost.
Well if the public doesn'y care.... What can we do. How about federal charges??????
Only in Chicago do you get a verdict like this. After all, it was a jury of his peers. Gang banger, and drug dealers. This city will never be safe.
Whats not to believe?? The lights go down, the music comes on.. The wheel comes out and the dancing girls dance... Its called Crook County for a reason... Spin the wheel and win a prize... If that was a police officer on trial.. Bet your ass he would be found guilty...guilty...guilty!! We have the most corrupt court system in the country..hands down. Fuck anita alverez and fuck the cook county court system.. Amen.
WOW!!!!
I guess this is the last time I come to this site when I'm having trouble sleeping!
Signed,
Sleepless 1st Watcher
I'm going to sleep now sick to my stomach. Our country, state, and city our doomed. God help us all.
I sat in the gallery for a couple of minutes before the "fire drill". The ASA doing the closing was pathetic. Stuttering and unsure of dates and times. Thanks for a half assed job. Tell your parents the college money WAS wasted.
Ok Supe..if you're worried about police legitimacy amongst the public, then look at prosecutorial legitimacy amongst the police. So why would I risk my livelyhood and family's future on a 'Bronx' jury? The answer is I will never go that extra step and I hope it leads to the victimization of many do-gooder liberals. You get what you ask for. When the savages are at your door you better have six hot rounds or more. Good luck chicago I got mine you better get yours! If you're not po-po reading this than you better learn from it...you are on you're own!!!
I really beleive he will get what he deserves! Karma is a real big bitch!
hope he gets back what he has given
what did he do?
And the police keep working because... hmmmm? Collect your paycheck, and forget pro-active police work. This department is done, done, done!
Un-FUCKIN REAL!
It must have truly been a jury of his peers.
Either that, or 12 people too dumb to get out of jury duty!
WTF!!! Let it burn we don't need no water let the MF burn!!!
To hell with these liberal fucks!!!
Buy more ammo!!!
As the now famous saying goes, "That's what happens when you put together 12 people that are too stupid to get out of jury duty!"
Hell has a special place for this POS. Hopefully, his face will be flashed on the news as the latest victim of Chicago's gun violence...
Who bought the jury?
I am a firm believer that in ALL cases where someone is being prosecuted for an action against a police officer the jury should be SEQUESTERED from DAY 1 - for the entire trial.
I am beyond words right now. I sat through the trail all week, and heard all the testimony. I cant believe the jury would believe the SO-CALLED family members and the defendants testimny over the officers. It pains me to think that in this day an age it is OK to shoot a PO when they are entering. It also pains me to think that the GD residents of the Roseland Community know what they could do cause of the JURY'S conclusion!!!!!!!!!! GOD BLESS THE JURY!!!!! Always with you DO & SM!!!!!!!~!~!
To SCC and to every single man and woman on the the chicago police department, I'm in tears over this.
How can this happen??
My heart goes out to every officer!!
This is such a slap in the face!! I'm in complete shock!!
I have 3 generations of CPD in my family as well as my husband who is CPD and I feel as if the CPD died years ago. It just gets worse as time goes by.
I pray for everyone of you!
Please be safe!
~ a CPD wife ~
Will all you hard chargers FINALLY open your fucking eyes and take note of the message here?
All the effort you put into trying to be the "real police" doesn't mean a fucking thing to the ignorant majority of society that has been brainwashed by the liberal/socialist agenda.
A CONVICTED FELON GANG MEMBER IS GIVEN MORE CONSIDERATION AND THOUGHT MORE CREDIBLE THAN YOU, AN OFFICER OF THE LAW, WHO HAS TAKEN AN OATH TO SERVE AND PROTECT THE VERY SAME PEOPLE WHO SET AN ATTEMPTED KILLER OF A POLICE OFFICER FREE.
A motherfucker that hasn't contributed a God Damned thing to society while bleeding it dry via endless entitlements is better than you, officer.
Keep giving up time away from your wife, kids, family and friends, missing parties, graduations, weddings and various other functions because you allow the department to change your hours and deny your days off with nary an objection.
Meanwhile, every fucking savage mills about listlessly, ignoring the multiple kids s/he bore and couldn't care less about. For those of you who have never worked in a ghetto, the inhabitants of same seldom miss a party. They usually arrive with top-shelf liquor, to boot.
Primary, let alone secondary employment is a foreign concept to these people - yet they never seem to be without the luxuries that you and I will never have. Meanwhile, you will live check-to-check and hustle for extra work because you have the foresight to invest for your family's future and live within your means.
YOU are the chump that goes out every day and gives 110% to the animals that comprise a majority of this city while the last bastions of legitimate taxpayers/city employees and their families are left to fend for themselves.
OUR FAMILIES and neighborhoods are basically ignored while these cocksuckers that wouldn't bat an eye if we were killed get the majority of police (and other) resources because they refuse to behave and raise themselves.
Think about all this when your supervisors announce in roll call that Stupidintendent McStake wants more activity to satisfy the "CompStat"/"Broken Windows" approach to policing. Keep giving your all while you're simultaneously vilified for doing what it takes to protect an ignorant and unappreciative public from themselves and those they champion.
FIGURE IT OUT, PEOPLE...take care of yourself, your family, your friends, your neighbors, and your co-workers. LET THE REST OF IT BURN. However involved, those that make enemies of the police had better learn to make friends with the criminals.
May be a blessing in disguise. Let's just say this is not over. He will likely be going away for a long time, far from home.
Wow... I'm officially done with this job!
Not surprised at all. It is called the Liberal Dumbing down of America. Get used to it boys and girls. It's here to stay.....we are so very screwed...The best way to describe it is the old WWII acronym...SNAFU!!!
In their eyes it's called racial justice, they are undoing all the so-called evils of the past by letting criminals go free, to shoot and kill again..
The department needs to address this! I was there in the courtroom. This is unacceptable. This was the most one sided trial I have ever seen. Unfathomable that a NOT Guilty verdict was returned. The evidence was there. End of story. My heart goes out to the two policemen who were shot. Every policeman in this city has to question the work that we do daily.
Too many GD'S in the court room perhaps ???
WTF?!?!?!?!
Something went wrong here. The judge could not believe the verdict she was handed. The facts of this case were overwhelming. I was and am still shocked. I don't know what else to say.
In a democracy of people who don't earn their way through life and are allowed the right to vote, what else would you expect? Im not surprised.
Speechless, never again will I make an effort for that segment of society. That's what they want, that's what they will get. Let the streets run red with the of blood of the liberal welfare babies. I will just be careful and not step in it. Sad
To the jury of his peers: statistically, nearly 100 members of "your" community will be murdered by the same type of people as the vermin you set free before they'll get another shot at "us". By all means, embrace and protect that neighbor of yours. Chances are, the next one he kills will be you or a family member.
Sleep tight scumbags.
Go out and rent Idiocracy.
It talks about the dumming down of America in 500 years. It even has a court scene you will relate to.
Made by Mike Judge(creator of Beavis & Butthead). He should have won an Oscar.
Best movie that describes what is happening today.
What was the case???
I'M just hering about this now. and I'm wide AWAKE!
I was there that day. I responded to a call of Officers Down 10-1, 10-1, 10-1!!!
I will never forget seeing DO on the hood of a car with his whole leg red with blood from the knee down. I remember hearing SM was shot ten seconds later, I remember thinking where is the ambulance?
I remember DO's very pregnant wife with tears streaming down her face at Christ Hospital.
These guys deserve better than that!!!
that team does hundreds of SW's in the worst areas of the city every year. I have asked their help with my teams warrants.
Someone asked what were the facts of the case?
They scream Search Warrant, no response, they force entry. They find a locked door- they attempt to kick it open then they both get shot through the door by the GD coward who has a boatload of CRACK in his bedroom. OH Yeah, and they shot back like sixty times and somehow the Gods of Roseland shielded him. I wish I heard about court earlier because I would have been there. UNREAL! I feel sick.
Frightened jury perhaps due to GD's and family members in attendance?
8/27/2011 02:40:00 AM
You said it best! I still had a little faith left in the system until now, but again Holy Unfucking Believable!!!
Look at the makeup of the jury. Jury duty is for bustouts. Thats why the juries vote the way they do.
Remember, it's a collection of his peers...enough said.
It is finally happening after 60 plus years of liberal, progressive excuse making for the criminal element, the jury pool has been completely tainted. Now, due to the media's publicity campaigns against the police and their promoting the propaganda put out by the revs and pinhead professors, average jurors believe that convicted felons are more credible than sworn police officers. The law and common sense have been turned on their heads. Suspicion is reserved for the testimony of police officers only. A GD and his family are believed even though they are caught in numerous lies and impeached during their testimony. As someone who has tried cases involving the police, I have observed the slow but steady erosion of respect for the law and law enforcement which is brought on by the continuous daily liberal drumbeat that the police are the problem not the criminals. The cant is taken up by the liberal professors who inculcate those biases in their students. The idea that police are incredible is upheld by liberal judges who exclude evidence and testimony in police trials solely on their own prejudice against the officers. In this case it is my understanding that the defendant's membership in GD was not allowed to be mentioned.
It would seem that the easy way out would be for the police to say forget it and not do the job they are sworn to do. However, coming from a police family and having been involved in law enforcement in one capacity or another for over forty years, I know the type of individuals who become police officers and why they do it. It's certainly not for the money or glamor and it is no longer for the respect. It is because the person drawn to be a police officer truly believes in the right of the people to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness without interference by the criminal element. It is a sense of fairness and honor that draws people into the thin blue line. The idea that citizens have to fear for their lives and property due to a group of people who reject the laws and mores of society is abhorrent to those who would be police officers. It is inconceivable to those who are sworn to serve that a city can become captive to people who have no respect for themselves, their fellow man or the laws that govern us all.
So, despite the obstacles placed in their way by foolish people who live in one ivory tower or another, the majority of the thin blue line will soldier on and do their job to protect the vulnerable from the criminal beasts. They will do it because it is in their natures to do the right thing.
And for that, as a private citizen, I am very grateful.
The jury was either scared of the gangsters or brain dead.
I'm not sure if this exists in Cook County; I doubt it.
A judge may, in some jurisdictions and in some types of cases set aside a jury verdict (called JNOV in most jurisdictions).
While the standards may vary, JNOV usually arises when the judge finds that the jury has ruled against the weight of the evidence, i.e. that no reasonable jury could have ruled in that favor appropriately looking at the evidence.
This is different than a mistrial because in a JNOV a judge may actually enter a new verdict, not merely dismiss the proceedings.
This is why the movie "The Star Chamber" is not so far from reality.
SO WHAT DOES R SUPE HAVE TO SAY?
any tough wordS like he has cut crime because of his ideas.
HOW ABOUT EVERYONE WORK MIDNITES AND NEVER CASH IN OVERTIME.
OR HOW ABOUT DESTROY THE GANG.
JUST ANOTHER PUNK ASS IN A SUIT WHO LOVES THE SOUND OF HIS TOUGH VOICE YELLING AT SOFT AS PUPPY-SHIT EXEMPTS TO SCARED TO EVEN DISAGREE.
WHAT IS HIS SALARY TOO?
I hope the next time this shithead shoots at a cop, The cops shoot him back and make sure he is dead, one right between the eyes, bullets are cheap, use them!!!
fuck this scum.
When you allow savages to breed with no control and pay them from the taxpayers dollars to do it, this is the result.
We've paid for them to breed and stay ignorant. We've taught them that they are entitled to a lifestyle of handouts and that the system owes them something.
This is the result. Now get to work because you're here to serve them. They are the voters. They are the jury. This is what you have allowed to happen by voting democrat in this city.
This is the liberal government that you allowed to take over by complacency. Every time you punch a democratic ticket because your guy is going to take care of you like Daley and crew, this is what you get.
Why even bother trying to lock up these criminals. Let them do what ever they want. Let them kill ,rap and what ever they want. We get screwed over more then they do.
that's the jury system.....broken, dysfunctional....jurors who are either irrational, stupid, uneducated, or who maybe decide they do not like government, and wish to impose their own unfounded sense of "justice" against "the system"; any way one looks at it, the criminal justice system, at least in Cook County, doesn't work.....
SCC, this isn't going to be popular (if anyone even notices) but I have to say the same thing about this that I said about Casey Anthony: we have juries and a presumption of innocence for a reason, and one reason is that they insulate the justice system from the passion of people who are rightly furious that someone has been taken from them.
Before I start howling for blood over this case, I'd like to know why it's so outrageous. Several commenters here say they were in the courtroom; surely one or more of them could write up a more detailed account of how the trial proceeded and what the evidence was. I know you would post it. Then people like me would have a better idea what's going on.
Been done and staying done! Thanks for the reaffirmation.
I get the anger and frustration, but it sure is hard to tell people how cops deserve their pensions and pay when half of the comments on here are about not doing any work and how the citizens are on their own. Think about that when you are nothing about a 2% raise and fighting for your pension.
Where are the comments made by Alvarez, Emmauel or our loudmouth Supe?
Strangely silent in my opinion.
Lets see if Eric Zorn, Mark Brown, Kass, etc... have anything to say.
Guranteed, NOT!
Zorn actually ran a spot how McStooge blew off a Q/A at a shithead fake church because he was already at a shithead, roundball game! Several non-police neighbors and friends have commented to me about it.
They are starting to understand that they pay through the ass for the beast. Keep educating them because your rulers are telling the taxpayer that we are the problem.
Cook County is saturated with so many gangbangers and honor students, he actually DID get a jury of his peers.
All kidding aside, this is Fkng Disgusting!!
Maybe I'm going out on a limb here, and not being an attorney puts me at a considerable disadvantage. I also admit to not being in attendance during the trial and have only limited information posted by SCC to go on. But I was under the impression that the judge has the lattitude and the responsiblity to nullify the finding of a jury if he/she determines that the verdict was not reached properly as a matter of law, but rather some other factor outside of the facts of the trial, i.e., the jury harbored an obvious dislike of the victim (the wounded police officers, the Chicago Police Department), or they were obviously intimidated by the presence of the GD's, or in some other way the verdict was reached by the jury based on factors not germaine to the trial. I think they call it a "directed verdict" and it supercedes/ignores the finding of a tainted jury. How about one of our juris doctor members taking a stab at this? I was just wondering . . .
Solid, hard-working people from decent neighborhoods are the ones who take themselves out of the jury selection process by telling judges in open court that there is no way they can be fair in a particular case. If that happens enough during a jury selection, you eventually will end up with 12 lumps of shit in the jury box.
That's why you get verdicts like this one. 20 years ago, people actually wanted to serve. Today? Forget it.
The Superintendant loves to shoot his mouth off, where the fuck is he?
Y'all need to quit trying to get out of jury duty and be responsible and show up when you get your notice. That's why the jury is full of bangers and low-lifes. Look ay yourself.
Had I known this trial was up I would have at least stopped by. I work in Five and remember this one like it happened yesterday. Not Guilty? This was one of those calls you hear and you can't get there fast enough. I know DG and BM from when they were on a team here. Their team was and is constantly in the 5th Dist hitting Sw's. Not guilty? He had a gun and shot 2 cops during a SW. Not guilty? He is a GD. Sorry for those who don't know what that is- gangster disciple. Not Guilty? Where is the media on this?something feels really wrong here. Did the GDs threaten the jury? Was someone paid? Something is not right.
What was the gender / race composition of the jury ?
Anonymous said...
17 years of this bullshit and it's just getting worse, I don't know how much more I can take
8/27/2011 12:34:00 AM
I've had over 25 years of it, the end is in sight. No more taking this shit seriously, find a way to stay amused and like two-ton Baker, laugh your troubles away at Riverview.
Now if you know both what Riverview is and who two-ton Baker was, damn you are old.
They let OJ go didn't they?
This County sucks. Its residents are not worth protecting.
Why this verdict? First, police are lambasted eveyday in the papers, radio and TV. Every little thing a cop does wrong is front page news. Second, the police dept. does nothing about this bad media light. Oh, the FOP is now using Camden but he only shows up at a police shooting and at least tells the truth. My question is this. Don't we have a News Affairs unit? What are they doing other than cutting and pasting news blurbs on their page in ICLEAR? We need a Publis Affairs unit, one that gets out the truth about police work, tells the true facts of an incident, and broadens the public image of a professional and hard working police force. Every time a benefit is thrown for someone needy it should be in the press. Good arrests and solid police investigations should be front page. Stories about personal achievements by cops should be a daily press release. We do nothing of the sort mentioned above and we wonder why a jury won't trust or believe what a cop says? Blame the top. That's where it starts.
Just watched "Star Chamber" with Michael Douglas. Good movie, and after reading this, I think " If only , if only". A man can dream
Let them have the streets.
Hopefully every member of the jury is touched by the animal in the future.
19-P
Unbelievable, when is this bullshit going to stop! I sat through much of the closing arguements and some of the testimony, it was not even close. The cops and state did a good job, the jury did not. The defense admitted it was his gun and he shot the cops. What the fuck!
Anonymous said...
Well if the public doesn'y care.... What can we do. How about federal charges??????
8/27/2011 12:46:00 AM
Go get em tiger!
Then get a clue.
Somewhere, a village is missing 12 idiots.
those that make enemies of the police better learn to make friends with the criminals.... great quote. Back to the trial, not one charge stuck? Not even a UUW by felon? He did testify that he had the gun and fired it, right? Was he not a previously convicted felon? Not criticizing just asking.
Is this job worth it???? Obviously not!!!!!
Hey maybe Weiss will call the FEDS. You know, he won't suggest anything, but you know, send one of them Cozzi memos. Oh that's right, it only works when fucking a copper.
people in cook county and judges DO NOT give a fuck if someone fights or shoots at the police
Someone got to the Jury ???
You got that right.
3:49, you are wrong. The department doesn't give a fuck.
YOU need to address this.
The poster immediately before you has it right. It is racial justice. Stop bullshitting yourself and prepare.
And people wonder why all I do is drive around and answer calls. Not fuckin worth it.
Makes you want to get out there and chase these assholes.
If there is any justice, he will go back to the corners and catch a bullet in his head.
This is a perfect example of why the so-stupid Cops should just answer their calls, and concentrate on the 1st and the 16th. Forget about joining all these rambo units that are just bosses and politicians trying to squeeze more work out of the young simplistic newbee Cops by giving them a fancy title. They can't see thru it. Just take care of one another, and respond when you have to. Don't get sued or fired. Let the walls come crumbling down until the City pays YOU a good raise for doing your job, and the Media, Reverends, and Liberals are in fear for their lives. Let em stew in their own vomit. Then make them pay BIG, with the money they now freely hand out in entitlements to every street-dog, for nothing but trying to buy a vote. Force em to give it to YOU, in the form of a good, fair raise, instead. Stick together, NO MORE Aggressive Police Work. Wise Up, CPD. You're being used as Tools of your Socialist Leaders who loathe you, despite what they sometimes say. You're being screwed while they throw Tax-Dollars at Deadbeats, via Entitlement programs, to buy their Votes.
I'm so sorry to hear this. I can't imagine what the jury was thinking...maybe fear got the best of them...who knows.
Just know that there are plenty of us non-cops out there who appreciate the work you do. I understand why you'd want to give up at this point, but I know how hard it is to work with these animals and I'm grateful for your brave efforts. Stay safe!
6 more years and this city will be in my rear view mirror forever--- this city stinks worse than a forest preserve shithouse on a 95 degree july day--- my report card for rahmbo for his first 100 days-- an f-........
Bravo,Westside, Inside Do-Nothing,bravo.I couldn't have summed it up any better.
Anonymous said...
ok, what are you even talking about. how about some details of what case this is and what happened.... because scc, im lost.
8/27/2011 12:44:00 AM
If you are the police, shame on you. If you are not the police, look further than your nose and you might learn something. It is not the responsibility of others to spoon-feed you or lead you by the hand to the information you are wanting to know.
Does anyone with some real insight know what went wrong?? Also, a civil suit may be in order. Im not sure who the offender is but they don't all live in squaller.
This is stirring terrible memories of when Kevin Dean was found Not Guilty of murdering Officer James Camp (021). The jury actually found Dean guilty of disarming Camp, but they somehow concluded the gun may have accidentally discharged. The prick defense lawyer argued Camp shot himself in the face. Still can't get that terribly unjust verdict out of my head.
My thoughts are with these officers during this hard time. The sad fact is that once it's in a jury's hands...the bad guy sometimes gets away with it.
Jury nullification.
Thats why America is so fucked up today. Pussy judges, politicians and media. Reward the jagoffs and punish the good guy. Load up your weapons the revolution is coming.
Sad sad situation. But like the other post said, the jury is made up of peers who could not get out of jury duty. And after watching how the last jury was picked that I was a candidate for, its a batlle of wits between States Attorney and defense attorney. This county and state stink. Time to get out of here....
This is a phenomenon known as "jury nullification." The jury votes to acquit even in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary, often along racial lines. The most famous of all instances of jury nullification is, of course, the acquittal of O.J. Simpson.
And now you see why O.J. Simpson walked. And why the killer of Jim Camp was found not guilty. And why your killer will most likely walk and why leftists successfully fought against a prosecutors premptory challenge. Arm your families and head to Hayward!
Cook County jury again! This case was a slam dunk,a fucking no-brainer. What were they thinking? Everyone busted their ass on this one Scott,Danny, Pat, Aronis, and the entire team.
Better to to make it a M.E. Case. Keep playing T.V. Cop out there, just shoot the fuck! What use of force model are you fucking using!
society/the citizens have spoken, they are not on our side, screw all of you, jury can also burn in hell with the offender. Thanks for the message you sent us people of cook county/chicago/America... go fuck yourselves. im here to get my check, nothing else, after 16 years ive had it, i finally got the message you have been sending us, piss off!!
Fuck this city! Fuck this county! Fuck this state!.... And if people don't wake up by Nov 2012.... Fuck this country too!!!!... You can have it!!!!!
Like you said SCC, too many GD's in
the courtroom and the jury members
and witness felt intimidated.
After the trial is over and the
hoopla has died down, they have to
exist among those fool gangbangers.
So one can kinda understand their
reluctance to convict. And the S.A.
office is a dumping-ground for
lawyers who could not make it in
private pratice. Like Gladys Knight
used to sing, " Either Way I Lose "
The only way to rid society of these losers is to dispence justice
on the street.
Here's an idea. The FOP has John Farrell and a retired (good) hamicide detective interview the jury and see why they came up with a not guilty and let us know. I'm sure some of them will give their reasoning. Could be some had a different opinion but were afraid of others on the jury. Lets find out and lay the blame where it belongs.
Damn...we shoulda got us an event number for the court date.
When will we wake up?
Probably never!
I refuse to do a damn thing until this department acts like a Police Department once again.
They can take their contact cards and wedge them in Mcsupers buttox!!
Answer your calls. unless it's a 10-1... lights n siren at the speed limit only.
These asshole democrats as well as judges and states atourney has just made a statement to the shitbird. It is now OK to shoot at the Polleeces.
And most of you will run into the fire blindly. What a fuckin shame!
I say let the city burn.
God forbid one of our loved ones is ever a victim of a crime in chicago cook county. What a horrible place to live!!!
outrageously f-ed up.call charlie bronson,please.
And the judge didn't override the verdict? Why?
Well, on the bright side, we can hope some rival gangbanger takes him out shortly--it'll happen.
How come the 'media' isn't interviewing the jury members for comments like the Blago jury? I can guess what those AHoles's would say.
Don't worry Karma never forgets.
Given the lifestyle of these animals its only a matter of short time before they are gunned down by their own species over nuffin.
I think if you are on public aid and have never worked in your life you should not be allowed to vote or sit on a jury.
ok, what are you even talking about. how about some details of what case this is and what happened.... because scc, im lost.
8/27/2011 12:44:00 AM
why, yes, yes you are.
Well if the public doesn'y care.... What can we do. How about federal charges??????
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If Federal, then this person is guilty. The make up of criminal/liberal and federal/conservative. Too bad Blago didn't have a Cook County Jury, he would have been found "Not Guilty".
Unbelievable!!! The police try cleaning up gun and gang violence and a few liberals and a half ass ASA performance determines the reality off how messed up our society thinks "f@&!@# BS" Keep your heads up officers and just remember were alone on this madness and we got to protect each other...This jury was beyond a joke idiots!!!
did the defense argue the he didnt shoot anybody or that he shot because he didnt know they were police? dont everybody start jumping all over me, im just asking to try and figure it out. i remember doing warrants in t-shirts and jeans and i always was worried somebody inside would have thought we were some other shitheads coming for them. nobody ever wore the raid vests or jackets or even those goofy trucker hats we had. i could see how a lawyer could fool enough of the jury to get enough for an acquittal. if he argued that he didnt shoot anybody and they bought it, then theyre a bunch of retards. whoever was there let us know
Yet the kids on cpd will go to the bullshit specialized units and work hard! For what? lose your house-wife-life for what? let the fucking animals fight and kill each other take your time unless an officer or police family needs help why hurry? Write the paper and follow every G.O. No complaint signed no crime! Get off the corner sorry asshole god star not violating anyone's civil rights jagoofs!
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Reuters
10:07 AM CDT, August 26, 2011
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Disasters at a U.S. coal mine and aboard an oil rig operated by British Petroleum in the Gulf of Mexico again made mining one of the most dangerous jobs in 2010, according to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics.
In private mining, fatal work injuries rose 74 percent to 172 in 2010 from 99 a year earlier, the agency's figures showed.
Fatality rates for mining rose to 19.9 in 2010 from 12.4 in 2009 per 100,000 full-time equivalent workers.
The Deepwater Horizon oil rig off the Gulf coast, licensed to British Petroleum, exploded and killed 11 workers last April, causing the largest accidental oil spill into an ocean in history.
Also last April, an explosion at the Upper Big Branch coal Mine in West Virginia owned by Massey Energy Co killed 29 miners.
The police profession was not far behind mining as a dangerous occupation, with the number of fatalities increasing by 40 percent to 134 last year from 96 in 2009.
And if a Policeman even looks at one of these shitbirds sideways, a Cook County jury made up of Chicago's "fine" citizenry will make doubly sure The Policeman is very loudly and publicly lynched and left to twist in the wind while dangling from the hanging tree.
Rahm, G-mac, Alvarez and Rosenzweig will roll around on the ground under The Policeman's swaying corpse duking it out over who gets credit for slapping the horse on his ass...
Unlike the Saddam Hussein neck jerk, The Policeman will be accorded no such journalistic "decency" as the anal-whore local media will not only joyously repeat it to the point of nausea but also ensure it goes viral in their never-ending "campaign" for the hearts and minds of the public...
Heh... We made a funny.
Well... Not...
We're still waiting for these grandiose "plans" 9.5 & "Joisey" have in mind for CPD being able to effectively bring about some semblance of safety in this city.
They don't have a plan... they're just playing out the string and hoping nothing bad happens here. If it does, then the "Hollow Dude" will call in the federales to save the day... No need for CPD will be proven and carte blanche will be given to flat out destroy CPD and reboot it to whatever the wet dream of the moment is.
The back of the bus political kabuki theater/3-card monte, vogue show, wig snatch & fish-frying extravaganza keeps rolling and nobody is at the wheel...
Rearrange the deck chairs, shuffle the very short deck, which shell is the pea under, reach into the hat to pull out a rabbit only to produce a handful of congealed, fermenting shit...
Rham & G-mac will insist it's a rabbit in spite of what your eyes and nose tell you.
And people just don't get why Coppers are in deep "fuckit" mode.
Chicago Policing should be plain as a naked hotdog nowadays...
No peppers, no relish, no extras, no trimmings, no fries and a cup of tap water to wash it down and no napkin...
"HEY! You guys used ta give us all the extras for years!"
Well... Since everybody seems to be in a cutting back kind of mood nowadays? Ya still get a hotdog and a courteous smile from your blue suited server.
Respond. Report. Arrest on signed complaints only and watch each others backs since we're the only ones who give a damn whether we make it home or not.
Some say, "Don't be that way, we need you."
Sorry... It's plain to see this "silent majority" jazz isn't working in Chicago. Especially when you repeatedly empower the same people from the same political cabal.
Skip- Your right. The time has come.
I can hit a target the size of a coke can at 700yrds in a crosswind.(but not qualified to be a SWAT sniper LOL LOL)
Any coppers that go out and work doing street/traffic stops, foot chases, t.r.r.'s, locking up assholes, etc. IS A FUCKING IDIOT. interacting with these ghetto mutts does nothing but cause problems and aggravation. They have everything in their favor. It's not worth it!
Mike garza
As a citizen this is truly frightening. This demands public rebuttal from the Mayor and Police Supt. this just cannot go unresolved.
Wait why didn't Anita or someone high up prosecute this case. This was a police shooting. What's wrong Anita no press coverage so you don't get involved. Dum jurors and incompetent graduates of John Marshall making fourty a year after dropping well into the six figures on an education are too blame. If they were actually good lawyers they'd be with a firm.
I'm told that modern day juries have been brain washed by years of pro defense articles in the media.
The verdict was so shocking that any reasonable person reading about it would be in disbelief. I guess this is why I can't find any mention of the story in our local media. The trib and sun times don't want the public sympathizing with us. We are the enemy and need to stay that way.
I really beleive he will get what he deserves! Karma is a real big bitch!
8/27/2011 01:17:00 AM
Karma is a lovely thought, but really just work of fiction to make the powerless feel better about this world and their place in it.
Anonymous said...
ok, what are you even talking about. how about some details of what case this is and what happened.... because scc, im lost.
8/27/2011 12:44:00 AM
PLEASE STAY LOST
shit happens.
it has happened before and will happen again.
The credibility of CPD is not real high with much of the public at large and even lower with some segments of the public.
This is what happens when credibility is stretched. It is not about whether it is fair, or right, or legal, or anything. it just is, and that credibility gap needs to be addressed or this kind of thing will happen more and more.
I don't know how to address it. I freely admit that. But it will not get better on its own, and denying the problem will not help either.
To 1:08 am.
You obviously have no idea which ASAs are on the side of the police. This case was tried by some of the best prosecutors and they did an excellent job of presenting the case. It is not their fault that a jury of 12 came to such a fucked up verdict. I say this as someone who spent more than "a couple of minutes in the gallery."
Thanks for spending "a couple of minutes" in the gallery. Your extreme dedication to the cause is duly noted. But maybe you need to spend more than "a couple of minutes" on a case to know what the fuck you are talking about.
A cop who knows better.
>>>Anonymous said...
I sat in the gallery for a couple of minutes before the "fire drill". The ASA doing the closing was pathetic. Stuttering and unsure of dates and times. Thanks for a half assed job. Tell your parents the college money WAS wasted.
8/27/2011 01:08:00 AM<<<
This is probably due to Anita Alverez's COP HATING plan. A case like this should have had the A.S.A. A-TEAM in there working it. But who do we get? If it were a cop on trial it would be her office Aces who would be promised promotions or good private law firm jobs.
I'd love to see a Federal charge in this case now, not just for the justice but to show up Anita as the fool she is. But that is just for people like BILL COZZI.
Register and Vote the Bitch Out.
All the more reason I'm for carry and conceal law in Illinois!
An honest citizen does NOT have an honest chance in this crooked ass City and State!
Arm yourselves and handle you business without the courts!
Da Pelon
Bring the shithead upon federal civil rights charges
In another post, I mentioned the fact that the US Attorney from Southern Indiana, had charged the FRIENDS of the suspect who killed the PO for their role in his shooting and the handling of the firearm that killed the Officer. Samething needs to be done here.
This is outrageous. Not surprising but outrageous. Those of us who have spent the majority of our lives in the Chicago / Cook County area are jaded and pessimistic simply from living here and seeing all of the corruption and mismanagement that is known as "the Chicago Way". We must always remember that most of the rest of the country is not like this. There is sanity in other places away from the Daley Crime Family machine. Juries in "normal" society would have locked this savage up for life. Just remember that once you reach retirement you can move out of this hell hole and return to civilization where things actually make sense.
Militant Cop-Haters on the Jury have now shown us the Way. They want War, so lets give it to em, not by attacking, but by giving them the police service they deserve, ZERO. Only what's necessary to get by, that's it from now on. It's time we wised up and QUIT Giving Aid and Comfort to the Enemy. Time to send the message LOUD & CLEAR, BEFORE Winter arrives. The time is NOW. This BULLSHIT IS OVER for me, and YOU TOO, I hope...
Why is anyone surprised. We can only hope one of his own will target him and send him to Gangster heaven. Amen. What goes around comes around.
Anonymous said...
If there is any justice, he will go back to the corners and catch a bullet in his head.
8/27/2011 09:56:00 AM
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Like the way you think Officer!
I'm sick of hearing... 'stop being the real police, 1-16 only.. Don't do shit'.... That's fine, do that. Unfortunately as your driving around doing nothing that shit can find you. Turn a corner at that right moment and your in the middle of a bad situation. I'm absolutely a KMA copper, but even with that attitude, you can still be were these to working guys were.
Secondly.... May every one of those jurors be haunted with this for the rest of there lives!! Even better may this POS do to them what he did to these guys. May the feel the horror their families went through, the terror of being on the other end of this assho*** gun.
The department needs to address this!
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Just what is the department going to do about it? CPD has no say in these matters.
Anything said will just get twisted.
Move on. This kind of thing happens on a regular basis and will happen again.
The most famous of all instances of jury nullification is, of course, the acquittal of O.J. Simpson.
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perhaps the spector of a police officer blatantly lying on the stand and then having to admit it had something to do with it.
or building a case around a glove that didn't fit the defendant.
or making a straightforward murder case into a media circus for no real reason.
couldn't have been any of those reasons?
I get the anger and frustration, but it sure is hard to tell people how cops deserve their pensions and pay when half of the comments on here are about not doing any work and how the citizens are on their own. Think about that when you are nothing about a 2% raise and fighting for your pension.
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I think most people understand the venting. It is hard for police to accept the verdict, for obvious reasons.
This kind of crap happens. Who knows whether the jury was intimidated, or just hates cops, or was confused by the evidence, or had a bad day, or if it was just not a good case to begin with, or 100 other reasons it might have gone down this way. Sometimes a jury just does not like the state's attorney or really likes the defense attorney.
Guilty go free now and then and sometimes the innocent get put away. It just happens.
If I get shot by a shithead, I except that if I don't kill the bastard that the responding unit do.... There will be no trial and only 1 story.... Mine
Anonymous said...
To 1:08 am.
You obviously have no idea which ASAs are on the side of the police. This case was tried by some of the best prosecutors and they did an excellent job of presenting the case. It is not their fault that a jury of 12 came to such a fucked up verdict. I say this as someone who spent more than "a couple of minutes in the gallery."
Thanks for spending "a couple of minutes" in the gallery. Your extreme dedication to the cause is duly noted. But maybe you need to spend more than "a couple of minutes" on a case to know what the fuck you are talking about.
A cop who knows better.
FOP should hire some retired Cops who were good Detectives to get to the bottom of this, or at least do something to investigate what kind of corruption was involved.
Not guilty verdicts?Punitive damages? The media, politicians and general public (for the most part) hate us?
Why are we doing pro active police work in this cesspool? I'm a supervisor with 25 yrs on and cannot understand putting our lives at risk for the segment of the population that hates us. I work in a heavily populated "city worker" district and will go above and beyond for them and of course my fellow Police Officers. Other than that, I could care less. All I ask of the troops is handle your jobs and BACK EACH OTHER UP! If a fellow Officer calls for help, drop everything and haul your ass over to help out. If an Officer with 30 yrs on doesn't feel like jumping out and chasing a thug who just broke and ran for unknown reasons, I DON'T CARE! If that same Officer doesn't show up when a fellow Officer needs help, I have a major problem with that.
I know some will shoot back at me for my opinion but I don't want ANY Officers losing their lives or their jobs or thousands of dollars out of their pockets for the scumbags that would rather see us dead. I'm aware there are many, many people who are on our side and I really appreciate them and those that post supportive comments on this blog. But there's a huge majority that hates us, and I can't see wasting our time to give them any service.
Before anyone wants to bash me thinking I'm Monday morning quarterbacking the Officers from this search warrant, I AM NOT! I personally know several of these Officers and they are phenomenal Police Officers. I just wish more Officers could see that the city will hang you out to dry in a minute.
Sorry for the rant but I hope everyone sees the point I'm trying to make. The deck is stacked against us these days, so, please look out for each other and BACK EACH OTHER UP!
"e.J" from 008 dist knew the verdict before it came out
Ok so for all of you that are upset at the Cook County way of Justice. Now is the time to set it up. Below are the listing of open Judical Vacancy for the 2012 elections. If you are interested in running or are of very pro law enforcement views (meaning actually view the law for what it states not what YOU want it to be) help us change this flawed system in Cook County. Also is ANYONE interested in taking on ALVAREZ. If so email me at CPDfor2011@yahoo.com
Cook Circuit - At Large
Claudia G. Conlon
Daniel E. Jordan
Dorothy Kirie Kinnaird
John J. Moran
Donald J. O’Brien, Jr.
Margaret O’Mara Frossard
Aurelia Pucinski
Henry R. Simmons, Jr.
Victoria A. Stewart
John A. Ward
Cook Circuit - Resident - 2nd Subcircuit
Michael W. Stuttley
Cook Circuit - Resident - 3rd Subcircuit
Patrick E. McGann
Colleen McSweeney Moore
Cook Circuit - Resident - 4th Subcircuit
Daniel A. Riley
Additional Judgeship A
Cook Circuit - Resident - 6th Subcircuit
David Delgado
Cook Circuit - Resident - 7th Subcircuit
Cheryl A. Starks
Lawrence W. Terrell
Amanda Toney
Cook Circuit - Resident - 8th Subcircuit
Thomas R. Chiola
Melvin J. Cole
Maureen Durkin Roy
Additional Judgeship A
Cook Circuit - Resident - 9th Subcircuit
Gerald C. Bender
James R. Epstein
Cook Circuit - Resident - 10th Subcircuit
Daniel Locallo
Cook Circuit - Resident - 11th Subcircuit
Edward P. O’Brien
Joseph J. Urso
Cook Circuit - Resident - 12th Subcircuit
Mary K. Rochford
Cook Circuit - Resident - 13th Subcircuit
Edward N. Pietrucha
Additional Judgeship A
Cook Circuit - Resident - 14th Subcircuit
Lawrence O’Gara
Does anyone remember when the cpd did win a jury trial? We never win any more
I usually pride myself on my iron stomach but when I read this I got nauseous. It's a corrupt anti-cop system here-Alvarez is the leader of the pack and her laziness on this case just proved it.
~CPD family member
Where's McMouth?
Too busy rimming Phather Phelcher?
As Long As My Time Due Slip Gets Signed, and Processed, I Am Still The Winner.
"In The Valley Of The Blind, The One Eyed Man, Is King"
When we need a coke can taken out at 700 yards in a crosswind, we'll call 'ya...Until then go get your shine box.
THE STUPIDS SAYS: After a conversation with a citizen who Stated "IM WORKING I CANT RISK THE LOSS OF INCOME TO ATTEND JURY DUTY" Ok my idea is: If you recieve an unemployement check your a available for jury duty if fact it should be required.We have a large population that cannot get unemployment benifits more potential jurers. Televise some of these trails. ah ah ah im exhausted. We got to do somthin WTF
Practice shooting more often...So when the day comes you are ready to DEFEND yourself......so there wont be a jury or judge to let a prick off the hook.....Stay safe
A post mentioned petitioning retired detective Ferrell. Where can be reached?
hey 420pm, if ur KMA ud know how to get out of 99.9% of shit that "finds you". u may very well be KMA, but its highly doubtful u were ever the 'real police'. now go get some movers for the WC
Sadly ....
Not shocked ....sorry...
This tactic (jury trial)works for the shitheads more than you/we think and their attorneys know it.
Sore subject of course for all of us and yes its tough to go on and continue to execute like the job demands. We just have to I guess.
However those that choose to constantly "flirt" with disaster by executing search warrants and not using SWAT or even putting their hands on dude excessively or whatever P/O's do to get the "stats" are more succeptible to outcomes like this...
My best to everyone!
3 bars
A revolution is coming and this will be set right. They want a war. They will soon have one. All of the subversives will go to the wall, but more importantly, all of the enablers of those vermin will go.
@ 8/27/2011 08:09:00 AM
Listen up slick...
You don't even come CLOSE to "getting it."
Just what the hell do you mean by "...it sure is hard to tell people that cops deserve their pension and pay when half the comments on here are about not doing any work and how the citizens are on their own."
You're advocating taking from Policemen just because they have the gall to offend your tender sensibilities by being fed up with YOUR COLLECTIVE FAILURE to exercise, safeguard and protect the ideals of representative governance as part of YOUR DUTY as a citizen?
You've ceeded all control to a legacy criminal-political cabal and good men in the arena can't even depend on you and yours to help put murderous dogs away?
Are you sure you want to engage in a war of words about who deserves what?
Had you and others of your ilk had truly played a part instead of allowing yourselves to be brainwashed into believing The Police are the enemy, it is doubful this post would even be up and the local tree of democracy would not have borne ugly assed fruit like this piss-poor jury verdict on an attempt murder of TWO Chicago Police Offcers.
And another thing, you blindly delusional twit... In case you haven't been paying attention over the last 10 years, you are VERY MUCH on your own in this town and not by The Policeman's hand either.
The Police didn't break it... You and yours did.
Hell yes we're pissed!
We honor our oath... Those Stars in that display case don't lie.
Our torn up bodies and injured souls don't lie either.
You hide under your bed and shit-talk people in the arena for daring to feel as if the public has turned their backs on us?
How the hell would YOU feel if an ideal you've sacrificed half a lifetime for has been turned into an utter mockery?
You. Know. Nothing.
Other than what the legacy criminal-political media cabal spoon feeds you...
Don't you ever dare presume to shit-talk a Policeman.
If it makes you feel better... Yes, this city will burn because the people YOU'VE empowered are playing games with your's and everyone else's safety out of politics and spite.
That should offend your tender sensibilities more than anything but you in your willfully misguided outrage will continue to damn The Police for something YOU co-signed on.
Are you going to continue blaming The Police? Or are you going to finally stand up actually perform your duty as citizens? If it's change for the better, The Police cannot do it alone.
We would say "pick a side" but it seems the choice of the public is crystal clear.
The Police are the enemy... We will govern ourselves accordingly.
I think one of the comments was right in that this was the Second or even Third String A.S.A.s on this case that probably let too many gangbanger and gangbanger relatives on that jury.
NOW WHAT TO DO:
FOP should call everyone involved on the CPD side together for lunch on Sunday or breakfast Monday morning latest. Then early afternoon on Monday march everyone into the U.S. Attorney's office on Dearborn Street. Bring the case documents with them and politely but vey firmly demand that this case be prosecuted federally.
If possible, and why not, have a warrant issued immediately before this (fill in the blank) can get organized and flee and we have to go looking far and wide for him.
The Box Phantom has it right. As I a citizen I too am sick and tired of this shit. This is EXACTLY why when the pregnant teen is executed on the street, begging for her life a week ago, I posted I could care less. Fuck the ghetto community. Fuck the poverty pimps and all the other so called community leaders and the community itself. I have been watching the garbage in Englewood for example since 1970 and nothing has changed one damn bit. When these "mothers" are on the news crying that their babies were good kids it just makes me laugh. What a joke. Just go through the motions and collect your check, retire and get the hell out of Shitcago like all smart people do. You will never make a difference in a community that has its roots in collective neighborhood crime where most people are involved in it at some level and thinks it honorable not to snitch on thugs.
Anonymous said...
Skip- Your right. The time has come.
I can hit a target the size of a coke can at 700yrds in a crosswind.(but not qualified to be a SWAT sniper LOL LOL)
8/27/2011 01:39:00 P
Goody for you , Rambo, now try to get a life. You ain't gonna do shit about this, or anything else anyway, Meathead.
Y'all need to quit trying to get out of jury duty and be responsible and show up when you get your notice. That's why the jury is full of bangers and low-lifes. Look ay yourself.
8/27/2011 08:34:00 AM
The average jury pool consists of middle-age/white suburbanites. I see it everyday. How? Because that's where I work. Juries are unpredictable, as messed up as it is. Unless the state polled the jury (which they have the right to do), no one will ever know why they returned a verdict of "not guilty". And to the individual to asked about a directed verdict. Whichever side is asking for it, must do so after presenting their case and before it goes to the jury. Rarely is it granted.
Now That the famous Cook County jury system has sprung these assholes... As sure as a fat woman falls down the back stairs, they're ginning up a typical ghetto dog lawsuit for false arrest and gunning for healthy punitive damages...
Ain't that an imperial, purple bag swingin', crown wearin' bitch!
Decayed ass muthafuckahs shoot Policemen, get away with it and are virtually guaranteed a fucking free turn on the ghetto lotto wheel?
IS THERE ANYONE BESIDES THE POLICE WHO CAN SEE WHAT IS AND HAS BEEN WRONG WITH THE COOK COUNTY COURT SYSTEM?
Nothing but pure catering to a non-contributing constituency just because they replicate rapidly and vote Democratic even to their own damn detriment...
EEEGAAAD! We are sooo tailights & screeching tires when our time comes!
Anyone beating the bushes, jumping out of trees, chasing the elusive golden crack-rock of legend like a ghetto mario bros. game is crazy.
The only time those blue-lights should come on is when a Copper needs back-up. Period.
To: Westside, Inside Do-Nothing.
From: Harvey Dent (Dark Knight)
You either die a hero or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.
443 days to go...don't make same mistake twice
The Box Chevy Phantom strikes again! This Officer hits the nail on the head. I had a lengthy conversation last night about the exact same thing with friends... After about an hour of arguing they FINALLY got it!!!! Civilians do not KNOW what we know, they don't KNOW because they are not the police, they do not KNOW because they are only reading, and not living and breathing what coppers go through.
Thank you Box Chevy Phantom for spelling it out for those that DO NOT KNOW!
Stay Safe Brother!
Anonymous said...
The most famous of all instances of jury nullification is, of course, the acquittal of O.J. Simpson.
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perhaps the spector of a police officer blatantly lying on the stand and then having to admit it had something to do with it.
or building a case around a glove that didn't fit the defendant.
or making a straightforward murder case into a media circus for no real reason.
couldn't have been any of those reasons?
8/27/2011 04:34:00 PM
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hugs and kisses,
OJ
If northwestern had proteas and his center for wrongful convictions, why can't we have an opposite.
The Unbelievable Acquittals and Judicial Eviction Institute is now in operation.
Details and possible name change to follow. Maybe this case will be the one to get all of you off of your asses and start paying attention and participating!
"FOP should call everyone involved on the CPD side together for lunch on Sunday or breakfast Monday morning latest. Then early afternoon on Monday march everyone into the U.S. Attorney's office on Dearborn Street. Bring the case documents with them and politely but vey firmly demand that this case be prosecuted federally."
Lol, was this mutt a Chicago Cop? In that case Federal charges approved! Nice thought but you are dreaming. You are living in the Land of Liberals... get used to this!
This is bullshit.
A pure disregard of the police by the very people we are supposed to protect.
And tomorrow I'll just pick up and start off where I left off and do what I think is best. Maybe I'm stupid. Maybe the public doesn't deserve it. Maybe I should lay low, or simply lay down. But I won't. I'll do what I think I should regardless of the consequences. This is what I wanted to do, so this is what I'm doing. If I don't get support, what can I do? Just do it anyway. If I wanted to do something else I would. But I don't, so I'm stuck. I guess I'll just do it for me and nobody else.
To 8/27 @ 1137... It's ATTORNEY.. Thank you
Why not a not guilty? They probably figured that since Daley and his family can get away with murder on the streets of Chicago, so should their own.
When Vanecko is tried for killing a man in a bar brawl, then there will be more room to complain.Until then, we live in the system that Daley created. No justice. Take the law into you own hands.
Daley and his crew are no different that the GD trash you see on the street.
Can someone tell us about the jury??
I went to jury duty in maywood about six months ago. Scary people in the room. I sat in the corner as far away as I could from most. Unbelievable. One women kept repeating the same actions, got up 20 times, cleaned out her purse, could not sit still for the hr. we were there. And that was just one I described.
To the poster that worries about what people write on the blog and finds it hard defending pension and raises, relax. First off, you don't know that some of these comments are even the police, so you don't need to defend anything, its anonymous. Secondly, a police officer is in danger merely showing up for this job, on and off duty so relax, defend that if you feel you need to defend something
No fix, no liberal conspiracy. The following quote is from a book about Baltimore written in the 80s(?). Many more relevant observations.
"Juries do not like to argue. They do not like to think. They do not like to sit for hours at a time, wading through evidence and testimony and lawyers’ arguments. And in a homicide detective’s view, a criminal jury resists its obligation to judge another human being. It’s an ugly, painful business, after all, this process of labeling people murderers and criminals. Juries want to go home, to escape, to sleep it off. Our legal system prohibits a guilty verdict when there is reasonable doubt about a defendant’s culpability, but in truth, juries want to doubt, and in the stress of the jury room, all doubts become reasonable justification for acquittal." Homicide - David Simon, Creator of "The Wire"
This is bullshit.
A pure disregard of the police by the very people we are supposed to protect.
And tomorrow I'll just pick up and start off where I left off and do what I think is best. Maybe I'm stupid. Maybe the public doesn't deserve it. Maybe I should lay low, or simply lay down. But I won't. I'll do what I think I should regardless of the consequences. This is what I wanted to do, so this is what I'm doing. If I don't get support, what can I do? Just do it anyway. If I wanted to do something else I would. But I don't, so I'm stuck. I guess I'll just do it for me and nobody else.
8/28/2011 01:52:00 AM
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You're not stupid. You have strong character, and many of us citizens appreciate that. Sometimes bullshit like this happens and you have no control over it, but I like that you still want to fight and do what you feel is best. Even though sometimes it seems like there's no point to it, you just gotta keep going and do the job you know you need to do..
Just go through the motions and collect your check, retire and get the hell out of Shitcago like all smart people do. You will never make a difference in a community that has its roots in collective neighborhood crime where most people are involved in it at some level and thinks it honorable not to snitch on thugs.
8/27/2011 08:42:00 PM
Great attitude. So the cops should just give up? Should teachers in these communities give up too? I would like to think that most cops took the job to help people and try to make a difference. Believe it or not, there are a few decent people left in these communities who deserve protection. Just like the kids who, despite growing up around this nonsense, want and deserve to get an education and get out of there. We have jobs to do and we need to do them, despite the odds against us.
The sad part is this...the oficers will continue to knock down doors in spite of this because they are, we all are, our own worst enemies. This case, coupled with 300 grand for a dag, screams for police in action, But they will continue hitting doors indtaed of going back to a beat car do nothing. Its commendabel but is it right?? I really don't know but am starting to agree with the dogs.
Heh...
We see Attorney General Holder is pretending to give a shit.
Mr. "We're going to look at every allegation of Police abuse," (read as "We're embarking on a federal campaign of witch-hunting Coppers for every allegation of Police abuse put forward by every ghetto dogs & their money hungry lawyers) is revolving his dentures about LEO's being ambushed.
Nice cover, Holder...
Possible blow-back from the federales letting guns walk across the border and some of those guns walking back and being used against U.S. Police Officers?
The bullshit... It just doesn't stop...
Too much game playing by elected officials in pursuit of God only knows as an agenda with Police Officers and some civilians being considered as expendable and worth the price of doing "business"...
Whatever the fuck that may be.
I am disgusted by this verdict. But what pisses me off more is the lack of support from the higher ups. When an officer is shot, it is the JOB of the Cheif, the Mayor and/or the Governor to make it to the trial and show, that the community they represent, are behind the police when something like this occurs.
Mayor 4 fingers , you should have been there. Sup. McCarthy, your drunkin ass should also have been there, instead of at Pfather Pflamers parish empowering these pukes. Mayor and Sup. , you are a disgrace.
In reference to do nothing, I am not for doing nothing, you are a police officer and you are getting paid, so do your job, answer your calls. Thats all. Screw the shit that makes the bosses look good.
And please, practice your craft. Go to the range and practice, if not for you then for your loved ones. Way too many shitheads getting away because 50 rds are fired and no bad guys hit.
Be Safe.
Of course this very newsworthy story gets virtually no press coverage. I can't wait to put this shithole in my rearview mirror.
Two officers shot and the guy walks because the jury finds him not guilty and last week a jury finds two officers guilty of false arrst and shooting a dog during a valid search warrant and awards family 333,000. The writing is definitely on the wall folks. PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE THE POLICE!!
Great attitude. So the cops should just give up?
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Give up? I gave up on you people long ago...now I just protect my own, write reports, and put up yellow tape.
Teachers don't die or get sued for trying to make a difference.
Shoot to kill, no stopping threats...shoot to kill
I can just puke right now!!!
Morale Survey?
Morale Sruvey??
Here it is... Right here in this thread.
City Hall & CPD upper echelon can keep the real one suppressed until 1000 years after the all the ones who commissioned it have turned into dust and bones... We expect no less of an exercise from those craven wretches anyway.
The truth might interfere in their agenda.
Now people are scared because they finally see what happens when the public turns their backs on the people who tried to sound the alarm and keep them safe.
"Nice attitude"
"it sure is hard to tell people how cops deserve..."
"I get the anger and frustration..."
Now you want us to play nice and let bygones be bygones, eh?
"You're Cops! We don't pay you to get angry about the things that piss off normal people... You're supposed to be constantly maligned and treated like second class citizens! Who are we going to heap disdain and disrespect on if you guys forget your place and don't act all humble and servant-like?"
The justice you gladly deny The Policeman is the same justice you yourselves will be denied.
So easy to point and laugh while Policemen are "up against it."
The public cheers and throws confetti while the protectors are literally hunted down on the streets...
Nothing but the truth written here on this thread.
Oh how they hate it...
All that we can hope and pray for is that another Cook County Department takes better care of this POS than the Circuit Court did.
Like the M.E.'s office.
F*** me to tears!
Anonymous said...
The most famous of all instances of jury nullification is, of course, the acquittal of O.J. Simpson.
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perhaps the spector of a police officer blatantly lying on the stand and then having to admit it had something to do with it.
or building a case around a glove that didn't fit the defendant.
or making a straightforward murder case into a media circus for no real reason.
couldn't have been any of those reasons?
8/27/2011 04:34:00 PM
OJ Juror # 1, STFU!
The Box Chevy Phantom said...
@ 8/27/2011 08:09:00 AM
Listen up slick...
You don't even come CLOSE to "getting it."................
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Man, that was a mouthful, and one of the best STFU slap-downs I have read here.
For whatever it's worth to you guys, some of us do know what kind of shit you wade through daily and we resent it too. If I had my way, anyone who shoots a cop would be taken out and hung. OK, give them a trial, and THEN hang them. Sorry that this one went against you,that really sucks, but this prick will probably get his sooner or later.
a citizen
PEOPLE DON'T BELIEVE THE POLICE!!
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And ranting about it will not change that problem. Some of that mistrust is well earned and some of it not. But fixing the problem is a non-trivial exercise.
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those who scrutinize policemen over what is legal and routine by the rules police work.
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the reality is that people at large think the police should play by the same rules everyone else has to play by. they are willing to give some dispensation now and then, but mostly they expect the rules to be abided by.
the idea of rules that only apply to police is part of the problem.
a few of those rules are necessary but mostly they aren't, and that problem needs to be addressed as part of an overall attempt to improve the credibility of police in general.
a lot harder in a city that is run by criminals, and a lot of the public sees the police department as being a big part of what sustains those criminals. seeing as it is at least partially true, it is hard to refute.
i don't have a workable answer. maybe there isn't one.
finally somebody wrote about this case: http://bit.ly/nqbsto
It's a little silly that McCarthy will declare war on the MLD's after an errant bullet, but when two cops are shot by a GD who is found Not Guilty, no threats or warnings are heard.
Nothing but the truth written here on this thread.
Oh how they hate it...
8/29/2011 12:38:00 AM
i love it.
does that count?
Chalkie
Dear Scc:
To 8/27 8:09am
You are stupid. Don't you understand what blowing off steam means? Again, I say you are stupid. Since you don't get it, you don't belong here, get off the blog, troll.
The average jury pool consists ... Unless the state polled the jury (which they have the right to do), no one will ever know why they returned a verdict of "not guilty"
I was there for the verdict. The state requested that the jury be polled. They all said the not guilty verdicts were theirs. The explanantion I can see is that they believed when shithead fired the gun he did not know it was the police. The officer was shot in he leg that kicked through the lower part of the locked door.
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