Sergeant Responds
- Sgt. J. Sacks, Unit 020 said...
I'm the Sergeant that responded. We did not disarm ourselves as requested by the less than helpful Chicago Lakeshore Hospital staff. Officer safety first. Hell, I carry way to many weapons and would have filled several of their lockers. 19-Paul no, but a case report was prepared. I made complaints to the CPD's Legal Affairs, the Illinois Department of Public Health and the Joint Commission about the Hospital's failure to secure their staff phone from psychotic patients, lack of staff assistance to the responding officers, and the Hospital's policy of requesting the police to disarm. Note to any officer having business with the Chicago Lakeshore Hospital staff - many staffers appear hostile to the police. Use caution and stay safe. Lakeshore can have my gun when they pry it from my cold dead hands (well actually not the firearms are willed to my kids).
So why isn't this guy nominated for an exempt spot?
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
110 Comments:
You gotta wonder what piece of work from the 020th Dist. started that original post here which was apparently a pack of lies, meant to damage the reputations of the those who responded to the apparent crank call. We don't have to worry about
what civilian police haters can do to our dept., we obviously have many existing among our own ranks.
Thank you, Sgt. Sacks, for clarifying that situation.
It's becoming more and more commonplace for officers to be met with hostility when responding to incidents occurring within hospitals and long term care facilities. We used to have a lot more cooperation than we do now.
So why isn't this guy nominated for an exempt spot?
Simple: A)He is to intelligent. B) Thinks for himself
SCC asks So why isn't this guy nominated for an exempt spot?
Because it actually sounds like he has brains and did back up his troops so he will never make it as an exempt. Remember street smarts and leadership=no good according to the dept.
Ass kissing and clout=promotions.
I really don't think the good Sgt. would even want a bullshit exempt position to be ridiculed by the Supt.
He should be but doesn't have the clout! He's a great sergeant, has always been a leader, here and in his military career and in his community. He assists officers without interfering and will follow up to get the right answer always on questions we have. The commander owes a portion of her continued gold star to him supporting he via his CAPS work and for being a team player though she uses and take advantage of him all the time. He's a good egg who rarely thinks of himself and we'd all be better off if he were commander. And we'd work a lot harder!
Bravo;
Lots of Districts have mental health residential homes and they are calling about so and so wont take his medication. F-U. When we get paid and trained in addition to be orderlies then well talk.
Nicely done sgt
....nice to see there still are some bosses who still have brains and balls .......stay safe all and remember free bill cozzi and please write bill cozzi...
There is a point at which time a sworn officer should arrest those that interfere with or obstruct police. There are state laws and MCC violations here...
So why isn't this guy nominated for an exempt spot?
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Because he might call bullshit when presented with bullshit.
So who's the asshole that was spreading the false rumors?
This is why i can't stand this dep't. Why would someone go out of their way to tarnish this guys reputation when he actually did the right thing?
Good job Jeff,
Norweigin requires you to secure your weapon in their crappy lockers.. The security guard who is not armed even tries to take the PO's guns from them...
This is the same hospital that caused the whole Cozzie mess.
That's why you're a sgt. And im a lowly PO. I basically tell them f u.
And remind them of the boy who cried wolf. Which always gets a strange look ..ahh higher education.
LIFM
Sergeant Sacks is pro rifle, pro training AND former military. He's ok in my book!
The most dangerous person in this city is an intelligent, tenacious, angry policeman. This sergeant launched so many missiles they won't know where to duck. Catch the fever and hit back.
Well done Sgt.
And what will happen? Nothing!!! This is the City of Chicago, County of Cook, State of Illinois.
I love this blog, but the problem is everyone's rush to judgment, including myself.
All the name calling on a guy who definitely has 'the right stuff.'
I'm sorry for rushing to judgment.
Good job sarge!
Anonymous said...
... Why would someone go out of their way to tarnish this guys reputation when he actually did the right thing?
8/26/2011 02:02:00 AM
Ever think it coulda been Lakeshore security or someone else connected to the hospital writing on here because they didn't like how the police "threw their weight around"?
Lot's of those people have thin skins, but they are the king of their little world... until the big city police walk in the door, that is.
Remember, we don't check affiliations at the door for people who comment on here.
OT--
Teachers sent a big F-U to Rahm, saying, "Thanks but NO THANKS" to his plans to extend the school day and offer the elementary school teachers a 2% raise.
WTF kind of logic is he using when he offers only a portion of the teachers raises, and the principals bonuses?
The other teachers get squat?
I'm glad they put the ballerino in his place. I really think he thought they'd roll over and accommodate his wishes.
Battle lines are drawn--this will be good to watch our enemy's tactics!
Anonymous said...
Norweigin requires you to secure your weapon in their crappy lockers.. The security guard who is not armed even tries to take the PO's guns from them...
This is the same hospital that caused the whole Cozzie mess.
8/26/2011 03:35:00 AM
F*ck them!
Nobody REQUIRES you to disarm.
Let them bring their complainant OUTSIDE if they don't want you inside with your duty weapon, otherwise, tell them to STFU!.
And by the way, they are a LICENSED FACILITY and therefore are subject to OUR rules, not their own when they conflict with ours. Usually, if you demand the arrival of one of THEIR supervisors, things get straightened out pretty quickly.
I once told a hospital security guard that he'd better call the CEO of the hospital so they could make arrangements to move all of their patients to other hospitals because I was shutting them down, (I know, a heavy-handed bluff), but WE CAN close a licensed facility for violations, and I DID make my point and got them to comply with MY RULES instead of me complying with theirs.
YOU are the police out there, people. ACT like it!
Don't worry, in time the sidearm of the police will just be a tazer. Only the SWAT guys will stil be armed with firearms.
He's over qualified for an Exempt spot...he knows his left from hus right.
20 shares a zone w/24, could be someone heard the call and didn't here the outcome and made one up!
Here we go again. 3:35 says Norwegian requires you to secure your weapon. I have never once in the entire time I've been in 013, ever been asked by anyone at Norwegian to secure my pistol. Not once. And I go there almost everyday. The security guards there go out of their way to be nice to us, I suspect because of the Cozzi incident.
STOP THE LIES YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
"Norweigin requires you to secure your weapon in their crappy lockers.. The security guard who is not armed even tries to take the PO's guns from them...
This is the same hospital that caused the whole Cozzie mess"
What part of Norweigan makes you secure your weapon? I've been in there several times to do reports and they've never said anything to me. Of course I'd love if they did say something to me after the shit they pulled with Cozzi......
Looks like Sgt. Sack has a sack. Just sayin.
A man who led police on a three-mile chase that ended on the Near West Side early this morning was shot and wounded in the elbow by an officer after he picked up a gun on the front seat of his car, officials said.
The chase began at Polk and Clark streets, where a beat car answering a call about a drunk driver found a man asleep in his car with a gun lying next to him on the front seat, said Pat Camden, a spokesman for the Fraternal Order of Police.
Seeing the gun, the two officers backed off and called for assistance. The driver then woke up and took off, with the police officers in pursuit, he said.
This is embarrassing. What have we become?
Great work - Sgt. Sacks. I worked with him back "in the days" at the old radio room at 11th & State. I did run into him years later after I retired and was working at OEMC doing a CAPS presentation on 911 Vs 311 in the 20th District. He ran that meeting with the skill of a fine surgeon.
Old Retired Guy
Outstanding.
Jeff has the Bronze Star and has served our country at home and as a Company Commander in Gulf I. I trust his judgement any time.
Well done sir.
OK McCarthy , here's a Sergeant that has b-lls to speak the truth and stand up for his men . Perfect pick for an exempt commander spot in Patrol Division . Appoint him to replace one of the spineless district commanders that never passed a promotional exam .
Better ask rahm first.
Sgt. J Sacks is one of the best supervisors and human beings to wear the uniform. A Veteran, who served our country with dignity and valor. A SMART and Thoughtful boss who you would go to hell and back with. He's not Commander, because of lack of "CLOUT". Hell, the word is, the genius boss, in 20, gave his well deserved position as CAPS sargeant, to what every working p/o has learned to expect and accept, a "clouted", always taken care of p/o. Despite the slight, this sgt. accepted his reassignment. Like a good soldier, he never complained, had a bad thing to say and went back out on the field to lead the troops. Thanks Sargeant, for getting the truth out there. G-d bless the CPD and CFD.
Norweigin requires you to secure your weapon in their crappy lockers.. The security guard who is not armed even tries to take the PO's guns from them...
This is the same hospital that caused the whole Cozzie mess.
If you give up your gun while on duty you are a fool...
Great job Sarge!
Great job Sgt. If more white shirts had balls this department wouldn't be as f__ked up.
Good job Jeff.
Sgt. Bruce Rapa
20th District (RET)
I guess Sgt. Sacks has some sack. 19p
Sgt. Sacks is a very smart, and nice man. I've met and had many dealings with him during the CAPS meetings. He goes out of his way to be as helpful as he can be.
I think he should be the Commander too! After reading what he posted here, I'm even more impressed with his intelligence. I hope he stays in the 20th for a long time.
I have to say it is a pleasure to read the blog today and not see one negative comment about this sergeant and the p.o. that responded. Refreshing!
When we support each other, we stop second guessing ourselves!
I am a cop! Well, ok, retired! lol
Good job Sgt. I am glad you clarified this matter. Who is the dickhead that made this false rumor in the first place? This is a fine example people, just because someone says something about another p.o. and types it on a blog doesn't make it true!
Uh, there a plenty of sergeants and lieutenants who have both brains, and balls. These are the officers who invariably were promoted in rank order from a promotional list, took a couple of tests to finally be promoted, worked a beat car, tact car, or spent time moving a lot of X's in the D, and went about their tour quietly making the correct decisions-all night, every night. Their names are not Caruthers, Trahanas, Cuello, Velez, Lopez, Moy, etc. But the men know who they are when in need help or advice navigating within the gray areas of our job. Good job sarge.
Uh, there a plenty of sergeants and lieutenants who have both brains, and balls. These are the officers who invariably were promoted in rank order from a promotional list, took a couple of tests to finally be promoted, worked a beat car, tact car, or spent time moving a lot of X's in the D, and went about their tour quietly making the correct decisions-all night, every night. Their names are not Caruthers, Trahanas, Cuello, Velez, Lopez, Moy, etc. But the men know who they are when in need help or advice navigating within the gray areas of our job. Good job sarge.
I worked with Sgt J Sacks years ago in the 017th District as a patrolman. He was always an intelligent, rational and most of all honest individual. I am going to believe his version of events, which he signed as the truth over the anonymous poster that is trying to talk smack. Havent seen Jeff in some time, but nice to see he made Sgt and is doing well.
This Sgt reminds me of Sgt Pinky (nick name, and he's also retired now) from the 018th District.
Let these moronic arceholes take care of their own problems. Don't they have secuirty at this place? Obvious they don't want to take care of their own problems and lay it on the cops. If the police shoot someone all hell would break loose. Every crying towel in the country would be on our arces. Lawsuits galore. Screw them!
Check out 720ILCS 5/31 for a possible answer to this problem.
Old Bureau Guy
This guys got more sacks than most of the bosses on this job!
Sheesh. This liberal PC crap has gotten way, way out of control. There are individuals out there, unfortunately some in positions of authority, who can't wrap their heads around the idea that a cop (or soldier, or secret service agent) with a gun is a GOOD GUY who is there to PROTECT them from violence and DEFEND their rights and freedoms. Talk about failure to make key distinctions. I remember an episode of West Wing where a candidate's wife got all freaked out and acted like the agents were there to harm her kids or push them around instead of simply keep them safe.
--Law Abiding Citizen
Sgt. Sacks:
Thanks for your reply and for holding the line against a ridiculous rule.
When it comes to hospitals and wards for mental illness, lets just say I've seen alleged counselors/therapists rile up their patients and then call the police. An incident happened like that to me, where I was called to restrain an out of control, drunk, patient who was taunted by the staff. In the process I got injured and had to have surgery. (In this case I was not asked to secure my weapon, but I would not have done so anyway.)
Thanks for setting the story straight and for supporting the officers.
This is the same hospital that caused the whole Cozzie mess.
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You are mistaken. Cozzi is what caused the whole Cozzi mess.
He might well have gotten more than he deserved for what he did, but it was Cozzi that did it to himself.
Sacks is a good guy.
Various mental wards, detox joints, treatment centers, and half-way houses in 020 have asked the police to remove guns for DECADES when dealing with maniacs.
...and generations of guys in 020 have told them to go fuck themselves and get their security guards to quell their problems.
Nice to hear that some of the spirit of the old 020 lives on.
Whenever I find myself in such a vexatious tactical situation, I always ask myself "What would J-FLED do?" I believe our disgraced former "fearless leader" would call the real police.
GOTTA RUN!
O. T.
I just heard a snippet on the AM radio about Rahm cutting budget at HQ. Anyone know anything about this?
Nice job Sgt.! No officer should ever disarm at any time EVER!!! It's absurd to even know that an on duty officer was even asked to.
Hmmmm...
Isn't it way past time for the appropriate licensing and certifying bodies to start going after the administrators of these facilities for the assorted bullshit they pull?
Our favorites are when they call for a known nut case acting out, "refusing to take their meds" or needing transport to a hospital for psych evaluation...
Bull & Shit...
These places get state and federal money to have people on staff who are supposed to be trained & certified to address issues in these facilities. Even to the point of being able to subdue and secure a client/patient who is crazy enough to sing, shit & buck-naked break dance on the ceiling.
The Police are trained to hurt people in hands on encounters... Going hands on trying to subdue a nut in a nut house with MANY WITNESSES WILLING TO TESTIFY how the mean Po-leece hurt said nut, is a non-starter in our book.
"We need you to take him to the hospital for an eval."
Where is your contracted private ambulance service and your on-site staff who are supposed to accompany the person to the hospital?
Hmmm... Now we're going to look for our nut house cheat sheet.
(Excerpts from ILCS regarding these places... Anyone with a facility on their beat should give a look see and keep copies on hand.)
Ninety percent of these calls merit absolutely no Police response.
Just another symptom of our dispatch policy intentionally designed to keep the Police tied in knots on nonsense.
Norweigin requires you to secure your weapon in their crappy lockers.. The security guard who is not armed even tries to take the PO's guns from them...
This is the same hospital that caused the whole Cozzie mess.
Anyone that disarms for Norweigan when entering is nuts! tell them where to go and code it out after saying on-air for the tape that they want you to disarm to enter their prestigious hopsital..
Oh yeah...
Good looking out by the Sergeant.
It make us wonder... As scary as it sounds, there are some supervisors and p.o.'s who would have disarmed without question.
Or worse still, beef on those who refused to disarm...
As much as we try to give Policemen the benefit of a doubt, there's just that uneasy feeling we can't shake that there ARE those who would have been ok with surrendering their firearm.
Now that is a Sergeant I'll work for with no problems!
What a concept?
Back up your People!
Da Pelon
sounds like the fine Sgt did a good job ..... BUT ..... how can any business (or hospital) keep you - armed from responding to a man w/ a gun call?
I understand that a private business, like a bar, can keep an off-duty cop out of that bar if that off-duty is carrying and that is the will of the bar - but this is ON DUTY ????
What gives here?
If you get an armed robbery at a Jewel and some clerk tells you that you can't enter armed? Come on ... no one is going to listen ... and going in despite the wishes of Jewel is not going to put us in the trickbag .... so why was this situation different?
The real shame here is that this is Sgt. Sacks' 15 minutes of fame. In another day or two, this post will be pushed down and soon forgotten by most of the people except those who have the honor of working with Jeff everyday. I've known Jeff for over 20 years and a better supervisor you could never hope to find.
Having been near the "top" at one point I know that this site is monitored by the Supt.'s office (as well as others). I hope they consider Jeff's true leadership ability and common sense approach to our job when looking for people to fill key positions that impact what our men and women do on the street. While I recognize that a sergeant or two became exempt in the "old days," I think those days are over for now. But there are positions for people like Jeff who is not only dedicated to what we do, but to the men and women who do it. I sincerely hope someone down there picks up on this and considers Sgt. Sacks for a position that would benefit all of our folks.
Sacks is the only good Sgt. we have on days. The only one that consistently supports his officers...
unlike the other one that just nit picks and nags as if he is an inspector. Former IAD yes, inspector ... no.
He might well have gotten more than he deserved for what he did, but it was Cozzi that did it to himself.
8/26/2011 01:50:00 PM
you must be a liberal fuck.Anytime a cop is called to a hospital that has security that couldn t handle their situation means the person must be really unruly.Just because he was in a wheelchair and drunk doesn t mean the guy wasn t a jagoff.Most have aids,TB,hep or other shit that i for one don t want on me.Most will remain brave until a good crack straightens tnem out.It s because of people like u that society is screwed up. teachers and cops are looked at like assholes while the Dems run wild on our tax money.
Just mind ur buisness and stfu...
Looks like Sgt. Sack has a sack. Just sayin.
stupid statement
House of Blues will not allow you in with a gun
He might well have gotten more than he deserved for what he did, but it was Cozzi that did it to himself.
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Might have? Thanks for the kind words Mr. Weis!
sounds like the fine Sgt did a good job ..... BUT ..... how can any business (or hospital) keep you - armed from responding to a man w/ a gun call?
I understand that a private business, like a bar, can keep an off-duty cop out of that bar if that off-duty is carrying and that is the will of the bar - but this is ON DUTY ????
WRONG....a bar is not private property, it is a licensed premise. No licensed premise can (legally)keep a peace officer (on or off duty)from carrying a side arm. (although many do, because they go unchallenged.....The music center in Tinley Park, Great America, 400 E. Superior...etc)
The only place that can bar a peace officer (legally) from having a side arm is a psychiatric facility, or a court if so ordered by a judge. Many of the courts don't allow peace officers to carry firearms. In those cases security is maintained by the armed sheriff or marshall.
Many years ago a Canine Officer was called down to 219 S. Dearborn at the request of DEA to have the dog do his stuff. The powers that be at the building told him to secure his weapon. This officer who had big balls told them he wouldn't come in without it. After a short time it was decided the canine officer would not surrender his weapon, and he and his dog went inside. This officer later made sergeant.
If a licensed premise can bar a peace officer from carrying a firearm, then pretty soon no copper will be able to carry a gun. Imagine Michigan avenue stores posting signs "no guns, and this means you POLICE!"
The anti-gun mentality dies hard. I for one will never surrender a weapon except in those situations I just outlined. Kudo's to Sgt. Sacks.
"Anonymous" at 1:50 PM:
I didn't catch your name, you delusional fuckin' jagoff.
Great work sergeant. My apologies for ever doubting you.
OK so the Sarge displayed common sense (a rare thing) but that doesn't mean the guy should be an exempt. Come on, now!
You are mistaken. Cozzi is what caused the whole Cozzi mess.
He might well have gotten more than he deserved for what he did, but it was Cozzi that did it to himself.
8/26/2011 01:50:00 PM
seeing as you're asking for it, you shall be denied what you crave.
Here we go again. 3:35 says Norwegian requires you to secure your weapon. I have never once in the entire time I've been in 013, ever been asked by anyone at Norwegian to secure my pistol. Not once. And I go there almost everyday. The security guards there go out of their way to be nice to us, I suspect because of the Cozzi incident.
STOP THE LIES YOU PIECE OF SHIT!
I cosign your statement. Been to Norwegion several times. My partners's wife works there. NEVER have we anyone even mentioned our weapons. Security there is extra polite to PO's.
OK...
So how long before the exempts start trying to walk on the back of the good Sergeant's shoes like the bunch of jealous, scared children they are?
Competent field supervision drives the merit-cloutorious bossholes, (Thanks for that one,WSID!) absolutely insane.
How many times have we heard about bad/insecure bosses targeting competent and decent subordinates?
One retired Lt. related in passing about being upbraided by a D/C about "caring too much about those blue shirts."
Spoken like someone who never stood in harm's way as a copper... Or if they did, they were desperately trying to forget how it felt.
Sgt. Jeff is also a regular volunteer at police officers wakes, and Washington DC Memorials.
He's a dedicated and decorated military veteran as well.
Jeff is the 'real deal' and it has been an honor and distinct pleasure to have met him those many functions.
It was no surprise that he is always more concerned about doing the 'right thing' as opposed to worrying about doing, 'things right.' (There is a distinct difference and it takes a 'real' copper to practice the difference)
Finally, there ARE good bosses and coppers out there however, their daily display of honesty, bravery and hard work often go unnoticed.
To these brothers and sisters, it has been a pleasure to have known or worked with you for over four decades before retiring.
I continually acknowledge, praise and say a prayer for all my fellow coppers, truly representative of that revered product of... "Chicago's Finest!"
O'v (r)
OT - The CPD is already being set-up to fail at the G-8/NATO summits next May:
... While some world summit protests have turned unruly and violent, the organizers of [protests at next years' G-8 and NATO summits] say they expect peaceful demonstrations and any trouble would come from provocateurs or police themselves ...
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/
breaking/chi-protesters-start-planning-for-chicago-g8-nato-summits-20110826,0,4546168.story
Sounds to me like someone Only heard half the story..and assumed the rest. Well, you KNOW what happens when you ASS-U-ME...
O.T.
The City That Settles
- Travis Akin, Executive Director, Illinois Lawsuit Abuse Watch, Marion
Everyone has a daily routine. For some it is reaching for an early morning cup of coffee. For others, it might be going for a daily jog.
For the City of Chicago, part of the daily routine is getting a notification about a new lawsuit filed against City Hall. In the last three years, Chicago has been hit with about 900 lawsuits, which means city government is sued virtually every single day.
Illinois Lawsuit Abuse Watch (I-LAW), a grassroots legal watchdog group, recently released a study and found that the City of Chicago's notoriety as a target for lawsuits has cost the city a budget-busting $85 million for litigation in 2010 alone millions that could have gone to hiring more police officers or teachers or avoiding layoffs of city workers.
Had the City of Chicago's $85 million expenditure on litigation costs in 2010 been available for other, more worthwhile services and programs, the City would have been able to hire 1,239 police officers, pay for 1,226 teachers, hire 1,119 new public health nurses or plant 155,801 trees.
As Mayor Rahm Emanuel looks for ways to cut waste from the City's budget and plug the deficit, why not follow the lead taken two years ago by the Chicago Police Department (CPD)? The Chicago Police Department announced in 2009 a new policy of fighting, and no longer quickly settling, lawsuits filed against CPD an aggressive, common-sense strategy that has actually worked.
With a new lawsuit coming in nearly each and every day, city officials should work quickly to shed the City's costly reputation as "The City That Settles."
As one who has worked in several hospitals in multiple states over more than 20 years, I have a couple of observations:
1. The aforementioned hospital is not alone in stating to "check the firearms at the door." It's a common regulation for hospitals. I don't know if they worry that the patients are going to grab the officers' guns or a bullet is going to hit the oxygen system or what. That said, I also know of hospitals that have armed security guards so obviously there is a double standard out there.
2. Hospitals operate in what I call an "alternate reality." This is a key reason why I am fed up and don't want to work in one again. The only time I have seen hospital staff with a cooperative attitude toward law enforcement is in trauma center emergency rooms that depend on the police to help them with violent patients. Otherwise, the hospital staff really have no clue as to the environment that law enforcement works in and they honestly don't get it why its ridiculous to ask a law enforcement officer to give up his gun for ANY reason much less on a "man with a gun call."
I have extensive experience with the Joint Commission and I would be surprised if the police got any help from them on this matter. You should know that a lot of hospitals are dropping Joint Commission accreditation due to the Joint Commission's politics and thirst for money. Joint Commission accreditation is voluntary.
I would push your CPD legal affairs department to work with the state public health department and your legislators (hospitals have to comply with the laws of the state) to end this practice that puts law enforcement officers needlessly at risk.
Good Luck and keep pushing for change.
I know Jeff Sachs. Decent guy, uses his head, backs up his people. Smart. Unfortunately he will not suck any bosses dick and never wears kneepads therefore he stands little chance of promotion here.
No officer should ever disarm at any time EVER!!! It's absurd to even know that an on duty officer was even asked to.
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Obviously you have never gone down to 26th street (Jail)for a midamus, or other court buildings that require you to secure your weapon. Unless your just referring to calls in the dist. in which case your correct. I prob. would have 19-P the job and walked away shaking my head at the staff. But The sgt covered his ass writing paper..smart
Thank you sarge!
These mental health or mental calls where someone is NOT TAKING MEDS are the responsibility of the CFD not the CPD. Of course they don't tell you that. I had a paramedic tell me that if they are not taking their meds, CFD is supposed to transport to the closest hospital. Keep that in mind and have dispatch call CFD so CPD can be assist and dupe it to them!
This is embarrassing. What have we become?
--Nothing wrong with calling for an assist hero. Better safe than sorry.
OT: Melrose Park Police Dept. requests the resignation of a recruit two hours prior to graduation ceremony at HQ. Recruit remains at the ceremony and goes through the ritual. Recruit's family is present. Recruit has full duty rig and loaded weapon. If this recruit had decided to go "postal", it would have been a deadly scene. 1)How do you ask for a resignation two hours before graduation? 2) How embarrising for the recruit with family present. WTF!
I'll never forget Sacks in 021 with a man with a gun call held up in his house(old crazy guy) Sacks comes over the air tells the guy to "come out with your hands up" it just seemed funny at the time like a line you hear on TV- Sack's is a great guy!
"OT - The CPD is already being set-up to fail at the G-8/NATO summits next May:
... While some world summit protests have turned unruly and violent, the organizers of [protests at next years' G-8 and NATO summits] say they expect peaceful demonstrations and any trouble would come from provocateurs or police themselves ... "
I see a fax (AMFN or whatever they're calling it these days) has come out regarding the need for all officers to work next May.
I guess the "emergency option" for demanding we work is now clearly out; you can't have a "planned emergency."
The only place that can bar a peace officer (legally) from having a side arm is a psychiatric facility, or a court if so ordered by a judge.
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thanks for the info
Sarge,dont forget to file written complaint with the Illinois Department of Financial and Professional regulation...
In the "reason" box put,Official Misconduct and Interference with Police.
Jeff, I love you. But you only do well with the crazies because you're meshuggenah!!!
you must be a liberal fuck.Anytime a cop is called to a hospital that has security that couldn t handle their situation means the person must be really unruly.Just because he was in a wheelchair and drunk doesn t mean the guy wasn t a jagoff.Most have aids,TB,hep or other shit that i for one don t want on me.Most will remain brave until a good crack straightens tnem out.It s because of people like u that society is screwed up. teachers and cops are looked at like assholes while the Dems run wild on our tax money.
Just mind ur buisness and stfu...
Did you happen to see the video tape of the Cozzi incident? Just asking
Speaking of giving up your gun, who gives it up at the kangaroo court on Superior?
Next time i get a hospital job im taking the carbine out of the trunk and strapping it on just to see their reactions
I used to work for sgt sacks he's a great sgt and and great guy . You have to wonder sometimes we are our own worst enemy.
Who the fuck sez that THEIR rules supercede OUR rules. The police dept dosen't work foe them. They call for OUR service they should have to accept OUR rules without question. Any boss starting with McNutty on down should stand behind his men on this one.
I did find it difficult to accept that a supervisor and his subordinates would all relinquish their weapons, for any reason, let alone in a situation like this. I applaud the TRUE story and actions of this sergeant. He seems like the kind of guy we need in the upper echelon of this Department. If more of our exempts were like Segreant Sacks we would be in a lot better position. His ballsey response to this crap and his notifications to the powers-that-be put them all on notice that the heart and soul of the Chicago Police Department still beats and is still willing to call bullshit when they see it. I want to thank Sergeant Sacks for clarifying this incident.
If this gentlrman was a company commender in the armed forces, he should be more than a sergeant in the CPD, NO OFFENSE. Does anyone think carothers, dteb, hrnny penny or the bartender could rise to company commander in army or marine corps?
CPD=cowards are commanding heros
Not a cop
Great Job. Best boss I ever had the opportunity to work for.
Always putting his officer's first and not afraid to speak up. He takes time to help those who have questions and need assistance. He is the first to arrive when a person with a gun call goes out.
Proud to work with Sgt Sacks,
Take Care
Chances are the Joint Commission will create some irritation for the hospital bosses. They LIKE to write up hospitals. If they don't find violations, then they have no purpose.
First they write you up. Then you have to submit a correction plan. Then you have to be re-inspected.
When they announce an un-announced inspection, the hospital staff runs around like chicken little.
I thought Charleton Heston was already dead
Anonymous said...
He might well have gotten more than he deserved for what he did, but it was Cozzi that did it to himself.
8/26/2011 01:50:00 PM
Thank you JFED. BTW what ever happened to the exempts that fucked up under your command? Huge double standard.
Sgt. J. Sacks would never do anything but the right thing!
I worked for him years ago in 020. Everytime he see's a copper that workerd for him he will extend a handshake.
He is Top Notch!
Did you happen to see the video tape of the Cozzi incident? Just asking
8/27/2011 01:56:00 AM
yes.
and your point is?
Great sgt we need more leaders like this to stand up for officer safety first and fuck all the BS people want us to do
work with J.Sacks in 017 when he was a patrolmen. Stand up man then and still is..remember Jeff the racoon? early nineties,
TY Sgt. We need more of you out here in the trenches!
That hospital is bullshit. They also play games with the elevators. They will trap an uunarmed P.0. On the upper levels, then they will hold the elevator so other P.O.s can not come up.
That hospital also refuses many mental subjects that do not fit specific criteria. For example, if a bi-Polar/suicidal is off his meds, they will tell you to take him to another hospital. There excuse is that they only take psychotics lol. One day a Jack Nickolas will go coocoo in the coocoo nest and the police will not be there in time. One more thing, for those affirmative action psychologists over there, I have this to say: "Who runs this mofucker bitch".
4:46
You're full of shut. I've worked in 20 and have taken hundreds of mentally ill people to Lakeshore and have never been refused. Maybe the people you're taking there aren't really the head cases you think they are?
Am retired now, but have dealt with mental health care facilities like this one (and this one) in the past.
Several times I have been in there and told the head of the unit "do their job" and handle their people. And have told them to make sure that the staff wears their ID cards so I know that I am talking to staff, not patients.
Sometimes you can't tell them apart otherwise...
Sacks leadership makes him more Qualified than 95% of our exempt command staff , triple promoted through merit selection , with about a year in patrol.
Anonymous said...
Uh, there a plenty of sergeants and lieutenants who have both brains, and balls. These are the officers who invariably were promoted in rank order from a promotional list, took a couple of tests to finally be promoted, worked a beat car, tact car, or spent time moving a lot of X's in the D, and went about their tour quietly making the correct decisions-all night, every night. Their names are not Caruthers, Trahanas, Cuello, Velez, Lopez, Moy, etc. But the men know who they are when in need help or advice navigating within the gray areas of our job. Good job sarge.
8/26/2011 10:51:00 AM
ok name them!
11:13 am
Like his quadruple merit commander?
Det, sgt, lt, commander ...
exempt spot! why would you wish that hell on anybody. Its like being named an officer on the titanic.
What exactly is shut?
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