Friday, October 28, 2011

ACLU Sues for What Now?

  • Chicago is a city of haves and have-nots when it comes to police protection, according to a lawsuit filed Thursday.

    The American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois sued in Cook County Circuit Court, saying the city is failing to deploy cops equitably across the city’s neighborhoods.

    The number of backlogged 911 calls is unevenly large in neighborhoods with the biggest minority populations, the lawsuit said.

    “Disproportionate numbers of delays in 911 calls have a devastating effect on a neighborhood,” said Harvey Grossman, an ACLU attorney.

Well, if your clients didn't act like assholes every single chance they got; if they understood the meaning of the word "emergency;" if they didn't waste officers' time with nonsense and bullshit and noncooperation and making a scene rather than solving the problem....

You get the picture?

And actually, we recall entire platoons of SOS, MSF, TRU, GEU, Area Sat Teams, Gun Teams, and so many undercover narcotics officers on one block we thought it was a class reunion, being deployed in North Lawndale, Austin, Pullman, Englewood, Little Village, Pilsen, Auburn, Bronzeville, ....the list is near endless.

So all of these assets being poured into these neighborhoods and who does the ACLU sue then? Why, they sued US!!! Allegations nearly daily about violating civil rights, home invasions, stop-and-frisk type enforcement.

We can't win for losing.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the ACLU can sue the government for me too! I feel that whites are being severely discriminated against! We need to see more white murder victims. Maybe we can see more white offenders as long as we are at it! And let's not forget I want to see more white 30 year old grandmothers. Stop wasting our fucking time with these frivolous lawsuits only meant to enrich the lawyers and spend the money on educating the underclass on such topics as abstinence, personal responsibility, and respecting others!!!!

10/28/2011 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU has arbitrarily decided response time is the determining factor. How about we decide 'cops per square meter' is key? Or, cops per dollar spent on taxes? Or cops per lunar eclipse or placement of the constellations?

Maybe, in 016, the residents call for REAL crime, while the residents of 011 call because some young man 'won't mind me, and go to school'. The residents of 016 shouldn't be deprived of police coverage because of that. (No, I don't live in sixteen.)

Can't wait to see THIS one go through the courts. The entertainment value should be classic.

10/28/2011 12:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

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10/28/2011 12:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

hahahaha, yeah ok aclu.. why dont you go and pull the manpower numbers of 016, 017, 022, 018, 001(majority white population) then look at the manpower of 007, 011, 015, 006, 005, 004(majority black population) and you will see a major difference... the districts with the white population are SKELETON CREWS!!!! Meanwhile, when all the units were disbanded they all went to the ghetto districts!! dont you idiots do your homework?!? The reason it takes so long for a squad car to get to a job in a black neighborhood is because its so damn busy. There are squad cars everywhere because everyone has been sent there from outside units. its not the police fault because every resident of 015 and 011 call the police because the 7 year old wont listen to his mother, her babies daddy keeps callin her on the phone and she dont like it no mo', or mama wants the 12 year old put out of the house because he wasnt listening again, or because every officer on the watch needs to be posted at a school in the district because the little animals cant behave at dismissal and start fights EVERY SINGLE DAY!! parking complaints, people shot, several hundreds of domestics in a single district, over whelming narcotics and gang activity and the list goes on and on and on. You could put a copper on every single block and you still would get slow response times in the ghetto. They call on a daily basis... most times for no reason at all. THEY ARE THE ONES WHO ABUSE THE SYSTEM! They cry wolf every day with the majority of their 911 calls. I wish the 022nd district had as many coppers in it as 011 or 007... it would be wonderful. Instead 2211 is out here to defend one of the biggest beats in the city..alone. thanks aclu.. how about you guys sit down the residents of austin and tell them to take care of the hood and start having some self control and responsibility... haahah, yeah right

10/28/2011 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are you fucking kidding me? I drive down the same blocks multiple times a day each work week, yet in my own neighborhood I can go months without seeing a beat car ony block! What are they bitching about? The neighborhoods that pay the least in taxes utilize the lion's share of the police service! Those neighborhoods can't take care of their own shit and need the police to sort out their affairs for them. Then they have the nerve to bitch. Can't have it both ways.

10/28/2011 12:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me see... You called def comp and ask them a question and they gave u an answer, but now your back on the blog asking if it's true because why? Your a real tool. Obviously you didn't read the agreement you voluntarily signed moron.

My apologies to the internet tough guy above. I didn't mean to upset you while you were blogging in your parents basement. To everyone that posted legitimate responses, thank you.

10/28/2011 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC said...
This is about the stupidest thing we've seen ...


Speaking of STUPID, Aldercreep Richard Mell is babbling about requiring a City Driver's License for bicycles...

W T F ?

10/28/2011 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FUCK THE ACLU !!! I pay a ridiculous amount of taxes and very rarely see a squad car drive down my block unless it is a member with a take home vehicle. The 16th district is dangerously undermanned and these liberal pricks want to sue for more police protection? How about the taxpayers? What do we get? Robbed, burglarized, our shit stolen if left unattended for 20 seconds. Aside for the few decent families that live in bad neighborhoods, the regulars don't want more police because it gets in the way of the way of life for these slugs. How about the ACLU sues for neglecting the law abiding citizens by flooding the ghetto with all of the extra police. I've NEVER seen a saturation, MSF, TRU, (I know they are gone now) or any other of the mobile units driving through my district unless it is to eat dinner or run home for a uniform adjustment. Oh...I understand, act civilized and you get shit. Act like a wild savage, get everything and what the city won't give you...SUE FOR IT. What a fucked up city!

10/28/2011 01:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When a beat car is stacked with multiple jobs due to the never ending back log of bs, than of course the response time to the third job will be longer than the beat car in white neighborhoods where they get one job a night. WTF! Why can't the mayor speak the truth and stand up to the aclu? How were response timed tracked?

10/28/2011 01:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look at the types of calls rec'd from each of these districts. What is defined as an "emergency" in the ghetto is completely different than in non-ghetto neighborhoods

10/28/2011 02:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should be backing the ACLU suit. You complain almost daily about the lack of manpower and the need to hire more policemen. This lawsuit will accomplish that.

10/28/2011 02:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They are deployed to preserve the taxpaying victims!

But the ACLU IS RIGHT!

EQUAL PROTECTION!

Jail the criminals, end the unlimited dole and end unlimited sanctuary.

I would have said this 27 years ago but I wanted the job, in two years and a day or tomorrow you CAN have it. Besides, no one has ever built a jail that big and we haven't relocated that many people since the internment camps or D-day!

10/28/2011 03:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i thought its just the opposite. more police service in minority areas by far. AND the geographical size of the districts are way smaller...but have more police.

10/28/2011 04:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We's be sueing cause it be unfair dat since we causin' the most crime that we's be gettin the least protections...

10/28/2011 04:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical 911 call.

Mey Chald is gone. Where is he Maam. He at Mo reece hass. What would you like us to do Mamm. Take his ass away, I tahyd of his ass. Do you want to make out a missing report. Eh Ehh.

10/28/2011 05:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey I live in Garfield Ridge, and let the ACLU explain to me why I don't have the same number of officers patrolling my neighborhood as they have in these back logged areas. Per square foot, we have less officers patrolling. Somebody needs to sue the ACLU for wasting the courts time.

10/28/2011 05:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

are these the same citizens,that are deaf, blind and stupid,when one of their own commits a crime?

10/28/2011 06:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the minority population of the city was the majority?

10/28/2011 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look deeper. This is ACLU plus Sidley (Rahm's people) filing in State court in a nonjury division. This is a setup. Look carefully.

10/28/2011 06:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They won't be happy until they take so many cops out of 017 and 016 that they can only man 4 beats each. They're down the wagon and at least 1 beat var every weekend night.

10/28/2011 06:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA......Too Funny. Good Luck with that lawsuit.

10/28/2011 07:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The moron bosses will continue to see RAP's as long as they keep using primary beat cars to run these BS missions and who are not allowed to handle radio calls. See the watches in 002 - primary beat cars held down all tour. Hell the midnight watch has a car that MUST sit on 51st between a one and a half block stretch with their mars light on all night!! And can't leave without a releif??? What a waste ..Morons. I'm sure it's happening in every district.

10/28/2011 07:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And where do they suppose this extra manpower is going to come from? Oh yea, from the areas where the citizens actually act like humans beings, work 40 plus hours a week, receive no government hand outs, and actually pay their taxes.

Here is an idea, why don't you people suing CPD call on your mayor to hire more police. After all, you are the people who put him in there.

F'n ridiculous!!! The day I leave this shit hole of a department and city can't come soon enough.

10/28/2011 07:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why doesn't the ACLU join forces with Copwatch, kick the CPD out, and simply patrol the ghetto themselves? They have all the answers on how to settle confrontations and could do it all unarmed.

10/28/2011 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Are they fucking serious? Honestly? We all know as cops that in reality the ghetto gets better police service than the other decent areas of the city. I work in a busy district on 1st watch and the nonsense never ever ends. Most of the calls we get are bullshit. Here are examples:

1. A man with a gun call that turns out to be bogus.

2. People with bats and knives fighting. Or people with bats, knives and sticks fighting.

3. Oh yes, the ghetto domestics. One party wants the other party out of the house.

4. My kid won't go to school. Or another family member disrespected me.

Most calls for police service in the shitty areas of the city are total bullshit and total nonsense. People in the hard working areas of Chicago actually know the meaning of emergency. These ghetto rats don't.

10/28/2011 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1:10am. Just look at his kids and soninlaw, they learned how to be knuckleheads from the best. The police punching, hot headed, lesbian daughter make her fouled mouth sister look like Mary Poppins

10/28/2011 08:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe we can slice the one beat car my neighborhood gets in half. Vamps.

10/28/2011 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should be backing the ACLU suit. You complain almost daily about the lack of manpower and the need to hire more policemen. This lawsuit will accomplish that.

10/28/2011 02:43:00 AM



no, it won't.

10/28/2011 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sounds like they're suing the city, which is the same organization you've been criticizing for the same thing. I don't get why you are criticizing the ACLU for taking action against the same thing you've merely been ranting about for years.

10/28/2011 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look deeper. This is ACLU plus Sidley (Rahm's people) filing in State court in a nonjury division. This is a setup. Look carefully.

10/28/2011 06:49:00 AM



devious.

10/28/2011 08:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im glad they said "equitably"
Because I pay more in property taxes than those representing the neighborhoods that are claiming to get less (all of the sudden/ghetto). But what they don't understand is, the neighborhoods that DO pay more in taxes than they do, also don't have any more police servicing them either. I saw my taxes go up on my second installment, my exemptions go down, my pay stay the same. I pay for my food, kids, and a place to live, they don't. I think the ACLU has it all backwards and should someday help those that try to help themselves

10/28/2011 08:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

10/28/2011 12:30:00 AM

Excellent post! I live on 2211 and your point is right on! I'd like to add the lack of CFD ambulance on 2211. I would bet a vast majority of ambulance 17's runs are east of Western. Why? Because the folks on 2211 don't call CFD for the stomach flu or hangnail. My elderly parents call me to take them to the hospital in an emergency situation. In their eyes, "what if someone in worse shape than me needs an ambulance"? A lot of your old-timers who were not raised under the "entitlement" system really looked out for each other, and always thought of the other person.

10/28/2011 08:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You should be backing the ACLU suit. You complain almost daily about the lack of manpower and the need to hire more policemen. This lawsuit will accomplish that.

10/28/2011 02:43:00 AM
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WRONG! They're gonna use this as yet another reason to strip the homeland of their well-deserved police service and give it to the ghetto-dwellers who call the police for any and every reason.
They need to break it down to the types of calls that are coming from these third world districts, not just the raw number of calls.

10/28/2011 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes time to get a police officer's response in the 16th dist too!!! I waited 1/2 hr for a police response. I called the dist after calling 911 again. they said they only had 2 cars and they were on calls.

10/28/2011 08:53:00 AM  
Anonymous West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...

"The number of backlogged 911 calls is unevenly large in neighborhoods with the biggest minority populations, the lawsuit said."

YOU said it, not me.

Now if only all the soft-as-puppy-shit ACLU jagoffs worked the problem backwards, they'd see what us in the know see everyday.

Dare I say it? OK, I'll let 'er rip (with SCC's blessing).


The neighborhoods "with the biggest minority populations" are responsible for the majority of crime in this city. And crime statistics, however watered-down and manipulated to the contrary by the CPD Crime Killing Wizards support this claim.

And while I'm assigning the blame where it ought rightfully be placed, allow me to state another obvious spectacle. The increase in criminal activity in neighborhoods that were traditionally crime free is directly attributable to the very same minorities that still do, or once did, hail from the neighborhoods the ACLU is bitching about. I offer up the south side "misguided yufes" that make the trek via the Red Line to "wild" along the Mag Mile and throughout the Central Business District as the most glaring of examples.

It doesn't a crystal ball (or even a pretend police officer assigned to the Crystal Ball Unit) to see that the spread of the "cancer" can be directly linked to the demolition of public housing, the dismal housing market/foreclosure rates and the overall piss-poor economy.

Cancer spreads to areas of a host whose defenses are weakened, hence the uptick of these emboldened assholes doing their "thang" in places where they'd never dream of doing it before. Less police = more cancer...SIMPLE AS THAT.

Community organizers in areas being plagued with crime and the miscreants causing it because of stripped police resources (read 022, 016 etc) need to file their own class action suits. The city's number fudging, admission of under-hiring for years while budgeted for more officers and blatant stripping of police resources from those who pay the lion's share of taxes might be a good basis to get the ball rolling.

Oh yeah, before I forget. FUCK THE ACLU.

10/28/2011 09:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe because they get 100 percent more calls then the rest of the city.

10/28/2011 09:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not going to result in more police being hired. The lawsuit states that there is a disparity between the amount of calls and manpower. We all know that is bullshit and that the slower districts ares stripped to the bone. Call for police service more.

10/28/2011 09:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the residents of the white areas fault. Start calling 911 for everything. You pay taxes utilize the police. Call on that suspicious person, illegally parked car, loud music. I tell people all the time when approached after the fact. I say why didn't you call? I don't mind coming out that's what you pay me for. And skip 311 call 911 everytime. When call volumes go up there will be no reason to remove police form the nice areas.

10/28/2011 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I guess that's why my neighborhood is so nice. I think I'm going to just move out of the way and die. I think everyone would be more happy then.

10/28/2011 09:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What you all forget is that the nice folks at the ACLU really do know better than the rest of us. We should not complain that our betters want to help us - in fact, we should be grateful!

So just pipe down all of you, and let Harvey Grossman show us how to do things right. Harvey knows EVERYTHING.

And when the Consent Decree is entered (those are really good, in case you all haven't heard - you get to have Harvey and the judge approve EVERYTHING you do! Cool, huh?), it'll only cost a couple million a year to administer it.

And it'll help Harvey and the ACLU fund more of their efforts to build a better society!

This is such a win, win, win I absolutely can't contain my glee!

10/28/2011 09:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fucking idiots!

10/28/2011 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mell and all alderman should require bicycles that use bicyle lanes purchase a city vehicle license like a motorcycle.

10/28/2011 10:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of Lawsuits...
I know that the FOP reads SCC, and I hope that they read this post.

The Union for the NYPD is taking proactive measures against the protesters at the Occupy Wall Street bullshit.

The New York Police Department’s Sergeant’s Benevolent Association’s lawyers are SUING the protester(s) that injure any member of the NYPD.

Sounds like something that might just boost a little confidence in a somewhat "silent" Lodge we have here.

LINK: http://blogs.wsj.com/metropolis/2011/10/27/nypd-union-warns-of-civil-lawsuits-against-occupy-supporters/

You never know, if it works out, is it a possibility that ANY mope that injures an Officer, at anytime gets handed a Lawsuit? Sounds good to me.

10/28/2011 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You should be backing the ACLU suit. You complain almost daily about the lack of manpower and the need to hire more policemen. This lawsuit will accomplish that.

10/28/2011 02:43:00 AM
This, yet another frivolous lawsuit will accomplish only one thing: More police re-deployed FROM areas like 016 and 022 to places like 015, 007, and 005.

It won’t create any more Officers, just another shuffle of the ones we have now.

10/28/2011 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is there a way a counter suit can be filed against them (ACLU)?? This is ridiculous! 2211 is HUGE! Compared to a 611, or 621 for example. I get that there is no beat integrity there due to the fact that the call volume is so high there, but come on! For Christ's sake! There's NO beat cars roaming around 2211 unless they're going to get food on the beat or stop home! This lawsuit is a joke!How about take a look at the stats for calls for service in the areas they're claiming they need more police! WAY higher than in a decent district! Plus, that being said, the bad districts ABUSE the system to the enth degree! They call for EVERYTHING! If you run a percentage of calls that you get in a ghetto district per night, I'm sure the percentage of BULL shit calls would alarm the ACLU. Enough is enough.

10/28/2011 10:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey I live in Garfield Ridge, and let the ACLU explain to me why I don't have the same number of officers patrolling my neighborhood as they have in these back logged areas. Per square foot, we have less officers patrolling. Somebody needs to sue the ACLU for wasting the courts time.

Thats a good point. Lets use 008 as an example. Two seperate areas, the area of kedzie to bell and crom harlem to central ave. The area of kedzie to bell is about 70 percent black and 30 percent hispanic. The area of central to harlem is about 95 percent white. lets break down the manpower of these two areas in the same district. In the white area there are two beat cars, 811 and 812. they also have 851 and 841.. two rapids. that area is about twice the size of kedzie to bell. Now, the black area which is about half the size as the white area has 824,825, 823 and 832. They also have the following rapids, 842, 843,844,845, 846, 847, 849, 852, 853, 854, 855,856,857, 5 tac cars and 5 cars from the 806 team(which are ORDERED to stay east of kedzie). So in the white neighborhood there are 4 cars. In the black area there are 27 cars. Guess in which are there are the major backlogs in on a daily basis?? Yep, thats right in the black neighborhood. They have almost ALL of the cars in the district and they have to wait because it is so busy because of all the nonsense calls. If your not a cop and are reading these posts i hope your getting the point. The people who dont give a damn about the neighborhood are the ones getting the most service and abusing the 911 system. They call for anything and everything no matter how stupid it is. meanwhile, the white area as soon as there is a 911 call usually a car will respond. Because its usually an emergency and the beat cars arent overloaded with BU*LSHIT JOBS like in the ghetto. I guess the aclu doesnt get it.

10/28/2011 10:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe the city should hire more Officers, then we would have enough for every district.

10/28/2011 11:14:00 AM  
Anonymous W.G.A.S. (who gives a shit) said...

Hey, I have an idea !! How about you young tech savvy guys and gals secretly tape these dumb ghetto fucks,with your gadgets and flip the coin on em',post their dumb shit on youtube or whatever and let the populace listen to their incessant bullshit ! Then the aclu can get a better idea of "their" Police emergencies.

10/28/2011 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

More police, more opportunity to hit the ghetto lottery.

10/28/2011 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There whole basis for this lawsuit is going to be based on calls for service. I have been preaching to my friends that live in 016 and 017 that they need to call 911 when they see something, then maybe it may make a difference. Call 911 for everyhting you see if you live in 016, 017, 022, and 008 or any other tax paying district. Why should we suffer when the ghetto gets all the service.

10/28/2011 11:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe if those officers who take 2 hours to clear a noise disturbance or take 3 hours on a burglary report would clear and take another job that would help , but we all know that will never happen

10/28/2011 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Take your time going to all these BS calls let them wait. It's all down time. They are all pieces of garbage anyhow, they call us for everything but then complain when there are too many of us around so they cant sell their dope. Let the aclu sue and let the real truth about manpower and how it is allocated throughout the city. Then we might get some police in the tax-paying Districts.

10/28/2011 11:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

6:49 is correct.


This is a set-up by Emanuel.

Explain this to all taxpayers.

In somewhat related news, Fire Commissioner had his ass chewed out by Emanuel for telling the truth and is close to being replaced.

10/28/2011 12:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How true!

10/28/2011 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another Coif...Likely Un-employable.

10/28/2011 12:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JUST IGNORE THESE COMMUNISTS, THEY ARE just tools of the Democrat party, like the mainstream Communist-Owned and Controlled news Media.

10/28/2011 01:05:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Harvey Grossman .... oh boy

10/28/2011 01:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the ACLU is an America hating, country destroying, Communist front

10/28/2011 01:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Attention White Taxpayers, please call the police for ANY suspicious activity or violations of Laws or ordinances. The squeaky wheel gets the grease in this City, and if your call to 311 or 911 is legit, there's absolutely nothing wrong with asking for the police to come by and check it out. Minority community calls for both legitimate and illigitimate concerns, so you are totally within your right to call for police assistance when your concern is legit. Be sure to do it, or YOUR neighborhoods will be stripped of officers more and more, and then the vultures will move in, to prey on you and yours.

10/28/2011 01:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This lawsuit depicts the stupidity of the people we have to deal with on a daily basis in those area's, but I have to thank them for my job security 15yrs and counting and I will never ever see the Westside again.

10/28/2011 02:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of STUPID, Aldercreep Richard Mell is babbling about requiring a City Driver's License for bicycles...

Are you Fucking kidding me!!!!!!!!!!

10/28/2011 02:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ACLU ? Tour kidding me, right? They have always been against discrimination, except what they said was " good discrimination", that is quotas and race norming for promotions. Instead of trying to fix the problem of a poor promotion system that was poorly constructed and rigged, they were satisfied with a numbers game that caused a lot of resentment in the ranks. The same s true with the phony merit promotion system in place today.The ACLU and the media ignored the reports from the Better Government Association on rigged promotions systems in Chicago.

10/28/2011 02:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I notice somebody else posted this already but, I was thinking the same thing. I SMELL A RAT!!! The rat's name is RAHM.

The lawsuit was filed in State court not federal. The ALCU usually doesn't work that way. Rahm has been demolishing all the units and adding almost every cop to the ghetto. The only officers left will be ones who bid for their assignment. Now the ACLU files a lawsuit???? I think Rahm begged them to file so he can get rid of some of our bargained for rights by claiming our contract violates the State Constitution.
Rahm might be looking for an end around his budget to raise taxes.

Rahm blames the ACLU (the ACLU could care less). Nod, nod and wink, wink from the ACLU and boom. Our contract is blown up. The ghetto gets more cops and the working people of this city our left on their own. A little class warfare from the Dummycrats. Nobody plays that game better than them.

10/28/2011 02:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What police and city officials will never admit is that these"minority",aka ghetto , districts completely abuse the 911 system by calling for a lot of nonsense stuff that shouldn't involve the police. These nonsense calls stack up and you'll wind up in a RAP. You could literally put an officer on every block in the ghetto and you'd still wind up in a RAP.
I also know that most ghetto districts have more manpower assigned to them than "quieter", aka tax paying citizen, districts. It's a fact. When Rahm disbanded TRU and MSF the majority of those officers were sent to ghetto districts. What the Hell more do they want??
I gues the quieter districts have to call 911 incessantly about nonsense so those districts can frequently be in RAP's too. The number of RAP's, not the number of assigned officers, seem to be the real issue.
Any enterprising reporters out there should wade through all the bullshit calls that are dispatched in a ghetto district and they'll quickly see the root of the problem.

10/28/2011 03:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh Oh, " The K-9 Cloutbaby" called his Uncle and they want people dumped! Nobody from the Unit better go to The Mill, his favorite watering hole, he's not happy with anyone.

10/28/2011 03:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said:

You should be backing the ACLU suit. You complain almost daily about the lack of manpower and the need to hire more policemen. This lawsuit will accomplish that.

That is NOT what will happen - the tax paying districts will lose MORE police to the ghetto!!! What world are you living in?

10/28/2011 03:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC said...
This is about the stupidest thing we've seen ...


Speaking of STUPID, Aldercreep Richard Mell is babbling about requiring a City Driver's License for bicycles...

W T F ?

10/28/2011 01:10:00 AM
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Watch who has a) the bicycle concession, b) the bicycle license testing contract, c) the bicycle license test PREP CLASS concession, d) the bicycle citation hearing concession or who owns the hearing location and rents it to the City. That's the real story.

10/28/2011 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Hey, I'm Just Sayin, said...

Anonymous said...
You should be backing the ACLU suit. You complain almost daily about the lack of manpower and the need to hire more policemen. This lawsuit will accomplish that.

10/28/2011 02:43:00 AM


THAT'S a load of crap if I ever heard it!

NO hiring will be done. More personnel will be stolen from the tax paying neighborhoods and moved to the ghetto. The desired result will be an equal number of crimes across the city. The ACLU wants EVERYONE to suffer equally across all racial and ethnic areas. In other words, more murders in the safer areas and fewer in the ghetto.

It's only fair, you know!

10/28/2011 03:45:00 PM  
Anonymous HATER said...

UR NOT DEFENDING THE DEPARTMENT FROM HIDING PUBLIC INFO?

MANPOWER IS NOT A TOP SECRET!

JUST LIKE NOBODY EVER FILES A LAWSUIT ON PROMOTIONAL TEST AND HOW IT TAKES MONTHS TO GRADE A SCAN TRON TEST. OR HOW PEOPLE TAKE HALF A TEST AND THEN ARE PROMOTED BY MERIT.

YEA THAT S A SECRET TOO.

JUST BECAUSE WE ARE PART OF THE DEPARTMENT DOESNT MEAN IT IS LEGIT OR DOING SEMI ILLEGAL ACTS.

I WONT EVEN POST ANY OF THAT TYPE OF STUFF.

10/28/2011 03:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC said...
This is about the stupidest thing we've seen ...


Speaking of STUPID, Aldercreep Richard Mell is babbling about requiring a City Driver's License for bicycles...

W T F ?

10/28/2011 01:10:00 AM


I have mixed feelings on this one. First, I HATE the nanny state further and further restricting my rights and tightening the noose around my neck on all my personal freedoms and choices.

But, as a driver (forget the police part of this) watching adult bicyclists become more prolific, more aggressive, more arrogant, more oblivious and/or more dangerous on the streets, it might be time to make them more accountable.

Can't wait to see who gets the contract for the bike license plates.

10/28/2011 03:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We all know what the problems are..now how do we begin to stop this evil, this insanity?

FIRST, we need to remove the socialist/communist/marxinst/revolutionary/islamic sympathizer oboma and his hacks. Period. We must vote for a true conservative at the PRIMARY first, so that we can then vote for a true conservative candidate at the General Election in November, 2012. A true conservative will uphold the Constitution, life, liberty, pursuit of happiness, OUR FREEDOM!

Now is the time to join forces with like-minded people, join organizations that promote true conservatives, put aside all distractions and work our asses off for a true conservatie..this is our World War III, and we must work it to win it. If we do not remove oboma, the enemey of the people of the United States, the "president" who is fighting against the citizens of the USA, while lieing to them that he is fighting for them, lieing like a good Saul Alinsky communist/socialist, we will lose this country, our freedom and be reduced to the hell that is China, Cuba, Venezuela.

Cut off the head of the snake that is oboma, and you smash the evil that is rahm emanuel, little dick durbin, eric holder, just to name a FEW communist/socialist/marxist/revolutionary/islamic sympathizer pukes.

Men and women of the CPD, EVERYBODY!, get up, join forces with liked minded people and vote for a true conservative in the PRIMARY first, and then in the General Election in November, 2012.

Go to www.freerepublic.com to get the news, and feedback on what the public nationwide is saying and doing. First things first...remove the boot from our throats that is oboma, rahm emanuel, etc., by electing a true conservative in the Primary FIRST, and then in the General Election on November, 2012

Enough with the "we are doooomed" rhetoric. We know what our problem is, so let's work together and kick their asses out of OUR White House, out of OUR country.

10/28/2011 04:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Make this a headliner post SCC....

As Preliminary investigators, how many calls end up with even a verdict in court? Tell the ACLU even legit calls from citizens, are not, based upon how many complaint signers refuse to prosecute, or do sign but don't show up in court, then how many people act as witnesses to crimes where people are murdered, shot, even raped, not many. Tell them we act as an extension of the courts and NOT marriage councilors, social workers, parents, building inspectors, or civil court judges. I've had people shot, raped, and stabbed and refuse to prosecute offenders, they don't care, they just want us to show up to keep the peace for part of their day. I do believe these people need protection? However, other parts of the city also need protection. And to sue based upon raps issued by OEMC, what about reform onto to the our calls of service, an idea is no more anonymous calls, you must leave a name and phone #.

Remember the people bringing this lawsuits live in an enclosed world of classrooms and temperature controlled buildings. While driving nice cars and protected by security guards who dwell in gated communities. Then work courtrooms, governed by the same people who don't face threats or live in the real world.

Its as those people at IPRA who take the side of convicted murderers, robbers, rapist, shooters, gang bangers, e-cons, liars, drug users, OVER family men/women, never been arrested for a crime, pay taxes, will save your life, chase the guy who just committed a crime vs you, protecting a city. And they will cheer when they get paperwork signed to strip you.

How far from reality are these people? Well based upon years of rhetoric from the majority of our nation's college professors. Real far. Many working class, or poor citizens have said these snippets to me "I love the chicago police"- " you're doing your job" -" arrest all those motherfuckers"- " go over there beat the fuck out of them" "thank you" "I wish you could do something about this, but I'm scared" All officers have heard similar lines or have stories. Not from educated elitist such as the ACLU, but from real citizens of Chicago. These lawyers and judges are modern day kings, princes and lords of the United States from their castles they tell us peasants how to act without a clue. Immune from prosecution and lawsuits. I end this rant. And God Bless the Chicago Police Department.

10/28/2011 04:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

11:37 am-

Stay in that backlog all day!!! It's the only thing showing the higher ups that we are low on manpower. What do u care about a rap??? It's not your problem. To be in a backlog that never ends is the only tangible evidence that we need more police!!

10/28/2011 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's have a contest of name your worst dumb job you ever got.



I'll start off, one night in 007 got a call of two sisters fighting over who ate the last of the chicken in the refrigerator, I told the caller what do you want me to do punch your sister in the stomach and get it out.

10/28/2011 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey stop your bitchin! Use your parents address and move out to the suburbs. Get more and your taxes are well spent. Don't spend a dime and I work a ACLU District. Don't do shit to help anyone!

10/28/2011 05:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It takes time to get a police officer's response in the 16th dist too!!! I waited 1/2 hr for a police response. I called the dist after calling 911 again. they said they only had 2 cars and they were on calls.

10/28/2011 08:53:00 AM

You called the station for what reason? We don't dispatch cars from the station. You waited a half-hour? What was your emergency that you needed the police for because you never stated why you called.

10/28/2011 05:10:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You never know, if it works out, is it a possibility that ANY mope that injures an Officer, at anytime gets handed a Lawsuit? Sounds good to me.

10/28/2011 10:24:00 AM

We are City Employees. We have the Legal Right to Sue for Injuries sustained while on duty.

We just have to sue everyone that hits or hurts us while we are on duty....and why this isn't done on a regular basis amazes me.

We start doing to them in civil court like they do to Us and this shit will end fast when the scum realize we will take every cent they have Plus their fuckin' Link benefits.

10/28/2011 05:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Speaking of STUPID, Aldercreep Richard Mell is babbling about requiring a City Driver's License for bicycles...

W T F ?

10/28/2011 01:10:00 AM

I don't see why not. They should have ID anyways...and it is Operating a Mobile Vehicle.

10/28/2011 05:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look deeper. This is ACLU plus Sidley (Rahm's people) filing in State court in a nonjury division. This is a setup. Look carefully.

10/28/2011 06:49:00 AM

You got that right. The Mayor is using the ACLU to carry his water. A fool could see that.

10/28/2011 05:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This lawsuit is actually a good thing. I will finally reveal the real manpower numbers.

10/28/2011 06:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Mikey C. said...

Where's the blogging tough guy who said, "sue, you can't sue for that idiot."

That was in response to my post a couple of months ago stating "we should sue for the city pulling police from our (tax paying/ city worker's) areas, 008, 022, 016, 017, 019, 025???????????"

Not such a bad idea now!!!!!

They don't need police, teachers, firemen, ECT.. in those areas........THEY NEED PARENT'S, MORALS, and ETHICS

10/28/2011 06:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe you wouldn't see RAPs if you didn't hold cars down all nite to cover one block or put up anymore special teams that don't answer jobs or do paper.

10/28/2011 06:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The fix is in

10/28/2011 07:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago Communist (Democrat) Politicians and ACLU (Communist Party Tools) using CPD for their Socialist Agenda, andchicken-shit, politically connected CPD afraid to say a word about it. Totally ball-less Leadership...

10/28/2011 07:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

White neighborhoods DISCRIMINATED against, by CPD, for not providing equal manpower protection to these neighborhoods, for equal tax dollars paid by Taxpayers in these areas. DISCRIMINATION against Whites...

10/28/2011 07:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sorry, OT:

But I wanted to send that jib-jab with Jfed and 3M to someone and I've searched till I'm blue in the face (?) Anybody remember when that was? Where they were in leotards?

Thanks. Plus I'd like to see it again myself--bad week.

And hey, if the ACLU is causing Raccon eyes indigestion, I'm all for it?

Any help, thanks.

10/28/2011 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

TORT REFORM needed now! Just like the sea world lawsuit, that the whales are deprived of their right!

10/28/2011 08:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: Speaking of STUPID, Aldercreep Richard Mell is babbling about requiring a City Driver's License for bicycles...

This is not stupid, they use and damage the same roads motorists do, they have special lanes that they should pay for, not me. They disobey traffic laws. All bikes owned by anyone old enough to have a drivers license, should have a license to ride a bike on a city street. They also need a license plate on the back of their bike for tickets when not obeying the traffic laws for cyclists. They should receive fines for not following the laws that were put in place to keep us all safe. I have seen bicyclists go through lights, ride on sidewalks when people are walking on them almost knocking these people over, pull in front of cars and cuss at the driver. I saw one guy hit a car so hard on Elston Ave, that he and his bike went flying over the car. Talk about a mess, and the bike rider was at fault, he hit the car in the rear end.
So, I agree with Mell for once, all bike riders over 16 should have a riders license, and the bikes should have permits like cars.

10/28/2011 08:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Cloutbaby of K-9 will never change, used to call us "Bitches" in Gangs because he never had to do a thing. I know exactly who you are talking about, with his 3 hr day. He always is surrounded by wide eyed idiots listening to his Austin Battle stories. I can look at myself in the mirror, he needs to stand on a stool.

10/28/2011 08:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe all you cops should start pushing C/C to the fucking anti-gunnies, then us law abiding citizens won't have to worry about response time

10/28/2011 08:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously, I know it's off-topic, but I REALLY need to send that jib jab of Jfled & 3 M, if anone knows off=hand! Thanks:0

10/28/2011 09:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

W.G.A.S. (who gives a shit) said...
Hey, I have an idea !! How about you young tech savvy guys and gals secretly tape these dumb ghetto fucks,with your gadgets and flip the coin on em',post their dumb shit on youtube or whatever and let the populace listen to their incessant bullshit ! Then the aclu can get a better idea of "their" Police emergencies.

10/28/2011 11:18:00 AM

Because we can be FIRED for doing that. That's whywe don'tdo it. Mush.

10/28/2011 09:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

JUST IGNORE THESE COMMUNISTS, THEY ARE just tools of the Democrat party, like the mainstream Communist-Owned and Controlled news Media.

10/28/2011 01:05:00 PM

So the communist democrats are suing themselves?

10/28/2011 09:15:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You should be backing the ACLU suit. You complain almost daily about the lack of manpower and the need to hire more policemen. This lawsuit will accomplish that.

____

Its a manipulation, the ACLU will get a court order in the nature of a "consent decree" requiring the City to hire more police, the mayor will say that its out of his hands and that property taxes have to be raised so that more police can be handled.

Its the same kind of manipulation that Harold Washington engaged in in the early 80's when he threatened to fire about 200recruits shortly after they left the Academy. Rather than let that happen the City Council passed a tax hike.

I'm willing to bet that Rahm was well aware of the lawsuit before it was filed and may even be supporting it. Its that tax hike that is unpopular not hiring more police.

10/28/2011 09:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm sure someone has information that shows what a good number of police per 100,000 population should be REGARDLESS OF CRIME STATISTICS
There has to be a good minimum number just for public safety as well as officer safety. Kind of like manning the fire trucks with 5, not 4.

10/28/2011 09:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Too Much Paul... said...

...Not enough Adam. Stop coding every job 19-P and start using more specific codes. Adam, Boy, etc. If its not Boneifide code so.

10/28/2011 10:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously, you bunch of mopes. Who is going to be writing these tkxz? Are you fucking soft? WTF would enforce this shit, and good luck catchinng them.

This city will forever be ruled by assholes!

10/28/2011 10:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously, this is the funniest shit I've ever heard. The units were disbanded to serve the underserved, no? LMFAO

10/28/2011 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let's see how the yuppies who think they more taxes should be pleased with this!

10/28/2011 11:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here it comes boys and girls.....

http://www.suntimes.com/mobile/8454858-463/top-cop-mccarthy-tells-aldermen-of-plan-to-close-three-stations-redeploy-officers.html

OCD going to one Commander, yup the one and only Leo Schmitz! No Deputy and one Chief.
Rest of Commanders will be going to Districts to fill in for retirements as Captains. Captains will be in charge of all Districts and Executive Officers will be in charge of Watches.

Lt's will be C/O of each Unit.
All Lt's out of Narcotics except one.

NARCOTICS will be operating out of Districts.
Only Narcotics Task Forces will be operating out of Homan.
GANG Enforcement going back to Districts (yes LEO lied to y'all).

GANG Investigations scaling down to 3 Area Teams.
Some of the more active/knowlegeable PO's will be absorbed by one of the three new area teams. The other "Homicide", "Surveillance","Incident" and Dog teams are being "recycled" into Patrol.
All Extra Sgt's Lt's back to Patrol.
Intelligence combined with JTTF and DOC.

VICE merging with Asset Forfeiture and AFU will have only 1 PO assigned to each Area. All of the other cloutless people going back to Patrol.

Have a nice day Everyone and enjoy the ride.
You wanted "change"? You got it!

10/28/2011 11:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

016 had over 360 officers 5 years ago. Today they have less than 200. Every night 015 sends them 2-8 officcers to help cover 1st watch. Taxpayers wake up!

10/28/2011 11:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Speaking of STUPID, Aldercreep Richard Mell is babbling about requiring a City Driver's License for bicycles...

W T F ?

10/28/2011 01:10:00 AM

I don't see why not. They should have ID anyways...and it is Operating a Mobile Vehicle.

10/28/2011 05:16:00 PM

A bicycle is a motor vehicles under IVC? Can you be that stupid? I want to see you chase bikes down the street for violations. "Squad I have a chase, a 16 inch bike for weaving in the lane". OMG!

10/28/2011 11:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look deeper. This is ACLU plus Sidley (Rahm's people) filing in State court in a nonjury division. This is a setup. Look carefully.

10/28/2011 11:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Is the ACLU aware that whites are the minority in shitcago?

10/29/2011 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

this is just like when you're leading the arrestee to the wagon and he says " but I'm the one who called the police, how m I post to be arrested.

10/29/2011 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
You should be backing the ACLU suit. You complain almost daily about the lack of manpower and the need to hire more policemen. This lawsuit will accomplish that.

10/28/2011 02:43:00 AM

oh REALLY? How exactly? Is the ACLU going to have to pay the city a ton of cash so we can hire? Or, is the city going to have to waste MORE taxpayer money to defend this bs case...meaning even LESS money for cops. Shit, by your logic, I should sue the lottery because I have not won it yet. That will improve my chances! Know what? I'm gonna sue the NBA because there are not enough short, fat, white centers. I'm sure a team or two will pick me up once I sue!

10/29/2011 12:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

White neighborhoods DISCRIMINATED against, by CPD, for not providing equal manpower protection to these neighborhoods, for equal tax dollars paid by Taxpayers in these areas. DISCRIMINATION against Whites...

10/28/2011 07:59:00 PM

----

whites are not a "protected class"


you see, the race had to have been "discriminated against" in the past ... God knows how much the Irish were loved .... ahh ...kiss my blarney stone ya' bastard

10/29/2011 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When a beat car is stacked with multiple jobs due to the never ending back log of bs, than of course the response time to the third job will be longer than the beat car in white neighborhoods where they get one job a night. WTF! Why can't the mayor speak the truth and stand up to the aclu? How were response timed tracked?

-----------------------------------
What????? Tell the truth and offend the Reverands? One thing I've learned over 27 years is that these savages are never at fault. Over the years they have been schooled to believe that it's society's fault. We, the tax payers, have failed to teach them right from wrong, morals, and common decency. The only problem is the reverands never feel that they arre part of the at fault society. All we can do is just be careful and look out for each other. Hopefully we will then be able to retire with some of our sanity intact.

10/29/2011 01:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously, I know it's off-topic, but I REALLY need to send that jib jab of Jfled & 3 M, if anone knows off=hand! Thanks:0

10/28/2011 09:04:00 PM

Here is one of them:
http://sendables.jibjab.com/view/boMcSanokTkAE4lq

10/29/2011 02:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is not stupid, they use and damage the same roads motorists do, they have special lanes that they should pay for, not me. They disobey traffic laws. All bikes owned by anyone old enough to have a drivers license, should have a license to ride a bike on a city street. They also need a license plate on the back of their bike for tickets when not obeying the traffic laws for cyclists. They should receive fines for not following the laws that were put in place to keep us all safe. I have seen bicyclists go through lights, ride on sidewalks when people are walking on them almost knocking these people over, pull in front of cars and cuss at the driver. I saw one guy hit a car so hard on Elston Ave, that he and his bike went flying over the car. Talk about a mess, and the bike rider was at fault, he hit the car in the rear end.
So, I agree with Mell for once, all bike riders over 16 should have a riders license, and the bikes should have permits like cars.

10/28/2011 08:34:00 PM

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Are you the police? You realize they can still be given tickets without a license plate on their bicycle right?

10/29/2011 04:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the communist democrats are suing themselves?

10/28/2011 09:15:00 PM
Notice they weren't asking for monetary amount---just change in policy? Hope and change, baby; hope and change.

10/29/2011 08:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Those neighborhoods can't take care of their own shit and need the police to sort out their affairs for them. Then they have the nerve to bitch. Can't have it both ways.

Yes they can. It's called the ENTITLEMENT MENTALITY.

10/29/2011 08:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have been preaching to my friends that live in 016 and 017 that they need to call 911 when they see something, then maybe it may make a difference. Call 911 for everyhting you see if you live in 016, 017, 022, and 008 or any other tax paying district.

-

Dude blow me, obviously you have no idea how busy it already is here

10/29/2011 09:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: Are you the police? You realize they can still be given tickets without a license plate on their bicycle right?
No, I'm not the police. How many police actually stop bike riders and ticket them. If I have to pay for a license for my car, they should pay for a license for a bike.

10/29/2011 09:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"whites are not a "protected class"

you see, the race had to have been "discriminated against" in the past ... God knows how much the Irish were loved .... ahh ...kiss my blarney stone ya' bastard

FALSE
A protected class is designated by Title VII of the civil rights act to include characteristics of people for which discrimination illegal based on those characteristics. Those include sex, race, religion, etc. So long as someone complains that they suffered discrimination based on their race, the complaint will be heard.

10/29/2011 09:28:00 AM  
Anonymous O'Brien said...

Anonymous said...
This is not stupid, they use and damage the same roads motorists do, they have special lanes that they should pay for, not me. They disobey traffic laws./.../
/.../ So, I agree with Mell for once, all bike riders over 16 should have a riders license, and the bikes should have permits like cars.

10/28/2011 08:34:00 PM

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Are you the police? You realize they can still be given tickets without a license plate on their bicycle right?
10/29/2011 04:19:00 AM
***********************************
Of course you can ticket them, but that is not the issue. Right now they get a free ride as far as taxes go. Force them to by licekse plates and/or riding licenses to cover a portion of the expense of maintaining roadways and bike lanes.

10/29/2011 09:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If you have a DL , you know the rules of the road . Require bicycles that use the bicycle lanes to have a bicycle license.

10/29/2011 10:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Uh Oh, " The K-9 Cloutbaby" called his Uncle and they want people dumped! Nobody from the Unit better go to The Mill, his favorite watering hole, he's not happy with anyone.

10/28/2011 03:09:00 PM


Do you mean the NILL ?
Its a dump anyway.

10/29/2011 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Mr. Peabody and Sherman said...

"The area of central to harlem is about 95 percent white."

If dat TRU, yo wayback machine be stuck in 1986.

10/29/2011 10:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

you see, the race had to have been "discriminated against" in the past ... God knows how much the Irish were loved .... ahh ...kiss my blarney stone ya' bastard

10/29/2011 01:05:00 AM

"No Irish need apply", anti-Catholic and all that before your time, but you could pick up a book once in a while.

Every race, religion and Nation has faced discrimination. The big difference is no one enabled them and they overcame their obstacles. Not so today, my brother. No so today.

10/29/2011 10:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So the communist democrats are suing themselves?

10/28/2011 09:15:00 PM



yep.

and the taxpayers foot the bill.

10/29/2011 12:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe all you cops should start pushing C/C to the fucking anti-gunnies, then us law abiding citizens won't have to worry about response time

10/28/2011 08:46:00 PM



maybe all you law abiding citizens should stop reelecting the incumbent assholes, so us cops won't have to worry about losing our pensions, amongst other things.

10/29/2011 12:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So, I agree with Mell for once, all bike riders over 16 should have a riders license, and the bikes should have permits like cars.

10/28/2011 08:34:00 PM



so, when did those pesky prostate problems start affecting your mind?

'cause you surely have something irritating your ass.

10/29/2011 12:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They don't need police, teachers, firemen, ECT.. in those areas........THEY NEED PARENT'S, MORALS, and ETHICS

10/28/2011 06:24:00 PM



actually, all they need is more of me.



Chalkie

10/29/2011 12:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This lawsuit is actually a good thing. I will finally reveal the real manpower numbers.

10/28/2011 06:16:00 PM




state court, dude.


there ain't no reality about it.

10/29/2011 12:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Maybe all you cops should start pushing C/C to the fucking anti-gunnies, then us law abiding citizens won't have to worry about response time

10/28/2011 08:46:00 PM

Uummm... WE DO PUSH CCW!

10/29/2011 01:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all of you talking about ticketing biker, exactly what kind of puss is going to do that? And if the revenue people try to stop them and they just keep riding, it's not like they're going to call in a plate or something.

I really thought I had seen it all with the bottled water tax...are you f*cking serious? What next? You have to drop a nickel in the box after you take a dump or the door won't open? WTF?

I hate this f*cking city.

10/29/2011 06:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Seriously, unless there is a crime in progress or an offender on scene, WTF are we doing responding to this BS? If some ghetto rat wants a report, send them into the station. End of RAPs.

10/29/2011 06:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Of course you can ticket them, but that is not the issue. Right now they get a free ride as far as taxes go. Force them to by licekse plates and/or riding licenses to cover a portion of the expense of maintaining roadways and bike lanes.

10/29/2011 09:35:00 AM

Actually that IS the issue you Putz.

You all bend over backwards to ignore Critical Mass and other idiots on a bike that blow stop lights and stop signs or ride the wrong way down the street.

The Police Department acts like cyclists don't have to follow the rules, so the cyclists don't follow the rules and act indignant when CDOT and a few other city agencies do a Bike Sting at Crosswalks and Intersections.

10/29/2011 08:02:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
Speaking of STUPID, Aldercreep Richard Mell is babbling about requiring a City Driver's License for bicycles...

W T F ?

10/28/2011 01:10:00 AM

I don't see why not. They should have ID anyways...and it is Operating a Mobile Vehicle.

10/28/2011 05:16:00 PM

A bicycle is a motor vehicles under IVC? Can you be that stupid? I want to see you chase bikes down the street for violations. "Squad I have a chase, a 16 inch bike for weaving in the lane". OMG!

10/28/2011 11:45:00 PM

Are you dense or just a moron?

The comment was that a Bike = Mobile Vehicle..that poster didn't say Motor, reading comprehension. There are battery powered Scooters and Battery Driven Bicycles and gas powered pedal Bikes. If I run a Cop over while riding a Bicycle...is it any less serious than if I'd hit the cop with a Harley or a Honda or a Hummer?

The Answer is No.

Thus the Rules are the same for a Bike as they are for a Motor Vehicle...Stop at a Light...Yield for Pedestrians..Stop for Signals...follow the correct flow of traffic..

10/29/2011 08:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Don't forget that the ACLU also sued to strike down loitering. So you can't tell 30 gang bangers hooting and hollering on the corner to disperse ... but when they start shooting and killing, the ACLU sues because more cops weren't there to arrest them. You're screwed either way with the ACLU.

10/29/2011 08:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The below link refutes the ACLU lawsuit:
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/chicago-police-staffing-crime-rates-by-district/

Check it out. It clearly shows that most ghetto districts are geographically small and very well staffed with officers.

10/29/2011 09:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI, The ACLU communists are alleging violation of this act. ANd guess what? Attorneys fees are written right into the statute.

CIVIL LIABILITIES
(740 ILCS 23/) Illinois Civil Rights Act of 2003.

(740 ILCS 23/1)
Sec. 1. Short title. This Act may be cited as the Illinois Civil Rights Act of 2003.
(Source: P.A. 93‑425, eff. 1‑1‑04.)


(740 ILCS 23/5)
Sec. 5. Discrimination prohibited.
(a) No unit of State, county, or local government in Illinois shall:
(1) exclude a person from participation in, deny a
person the benefits of, or subject a person to discrimination under any program or activity on the grounds of that person's race, color, national origin, or gender; or

(2) utilize criteria or methods of administration
that have the effect of subjecting individuals to discrimination because of their race, color, national origin, or gender.

(b) Any party aggrieved by conduct that violates subsection (a) may bring a civil lawsuit, in a federal district court or State circuit court, against the offending unit of government. Any State claim brought in federal district court shall be a supplemental claim to a federal claim. This lawsuit must be brought not later than 2 years after the violation of subsection (a). If the court finds that a violation of paragraph (1) or (2) of subsection (a) has occurred, the court may award to the plaintiff actual damages. The court, as it deems appropriate, may grant as relief any permanent or preliminary negative or mandatory injunction, temporary restraining order, or other order.
(c) Upon motion, a court shall award reasonable attorneys' fees and costs, including expert witness fees and other litigation expenses, to a plaintiff who is a prevailing party in any action brought:
(1) pursuant to subsection (b); or
(2) to enforce a right arising under the Illinois
Constitution.

In awarding reasonable attorneys' fees, the court shall consider the degree to which the relief obtained relates to the relief sought.
(d) For the purpose of this Act, the term "prevailing party" includes any party:
(1) who obtains some of his or her requested relief
through a judicial judgment in his or her favor;

(2) who obtains some of his or her requested relief
through any settlement agreement approved by the court; or

(3) whose pursuit of a non‑frivolous claim was a
catalyst for a unilateral change in position by the opposing party relative to the relief sought.

(Source: P.A. 95‑541, eff. 1‑1‑08

10/30/2011 10:48:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the actual ACLU complaint - http://www.aclu-il.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/10/ComplaintDRAFT10262011final.pdf



the actually do not have Date, claiming the city has refused their FOI request, so they cite a Suntimes article - ha :
http://www.suntimes.com/news/2630338-418/calls-officers-districts-911-police.html

10/30/2011 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

MATH TIME !!

15th district = 3.82 square miles
16th district =30.95 square miles
22nd district =13.46 square miles

square miles each primary beat covers:

15th=0.42 square miles- 9 primaries
16th=2.58 square miles-12 primaries
22nd=1.50 square miles- 9 primaries

# of residents per primary beat

15th=8081
16th=16658
22nd=12393

So, the 16th district has 8 times the land mass as the 15th, and 1/2 of the police per resident (based on number of primary beats)

Keep in mind that 15 also puts up a fair amount of response cars, something I believe is usually a luxury in 016, so the numbers are even worse than they appear.

What the ACLU needs to figure out is this neighborhood has 100% more police per capita than 16 does and that the number of people who call is just out of line! So too bad for your response time.... My response time is long too, because my officer could be coming from 8 times farther away than your officer ever will be.

22nd district, you fit right in the middle of 15 & 16's numbers, so do what you want with that info.......

All of the data I crunched was obtained from the 2009 CPD annual report, which is online, and can be found with a quick google search.

10/30/2011 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The below link refutes the ACLU lawsuit:
http://www.chicagonewscoop.org/chicago-police-staffing-crime-rates-by-district/

Check it out. It clearly shows that most ghetto districts are geographically small and very well staffed with officers.

---

they only care about violent crimes/officer


No one cares about property crimes/officer

023 has more property crimes/officer than 015 does (9.8 vs 7.0) ... and 015th Dist community is party to the lawsuit....


No one cares about property crimes apparently. ANd when they discuss violent crimes ... most are probably bullshit "He's jumpin' on me" batteries

10/31/2011 06:51:00 AM  

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