"Mole" Surfaces
Every so often, we get a comment that has a boatload of genuine info and accurate insight. Might this be one of those times?
- 35th Street Mole---the REAL information>>
OK so OT has been saying a lot of crazy stuff. But here it is the truth if you want it. yes the new Supt and his "guys" don't think very highly of CPD (exempts). I can't say that I blame them. If you remember when the new mayor was elected he had a friend of his and the Supt come into CPD to evaluate the Department and make suggestions to the Mayor and new Supt what should be done? Well he IS following it (the Supt). Understand something the Supt will NOT show his cards to anyone! He has learned his lessons from Newark's political game. The only way we at 35th St have any idea of what may be going on is by what the Supt requests as far as data and reports. No one knows what is going to happen until right before it does. So all this talk about what he is going to do is BS! The Supt has not allowed anyone to view the book that the guy wrote on what to do. One thing that I can see happening is eliminating two areas and making the city North, South and West. The reasoning is the Supt has requested all the data/manpower from all the areas. In addition to calls for service. The supt has requested exempt members personnel files as well. By looking at the new organization chart, one can see the changes of exempt positions. For example no more Commander of the DOC.
Other data requested was how many P.O.'s are working in the front office in addition to desk at every station. As requested were the watch sheets. A request was made for views from city hall to create positions of sec's for commanders. Meaning no more P.O.'s in the front office. They did a quick study and found by hiring civilian or ret CPD on a contract level, they can save by paying no medical or pension and get the same results. Also same as desk crews (only one CPD sworn to handle desk, and watch sect duties (along with the Sgt). By eliminating these positions that include all exempts sworn Lt's Sgt's and P.O. office assistance will put the City over its 1,000 pledge. That is what is coming next. There will be very few inside office P.O.'s Sgt's or L'ts anymore.
The Supt has also been requesting what the duties or the Capt, Lt and Sgt's are according to the CPD. There duties I think will be changing. It seems to me that CPD will be more like NYPD but with less levels of rank. The new Supt hates the repeated levels of rank and red tape of police departments. The Supt knows he cannot eliminate or demote Capt, Lt's Sgt's or Det's but can change there duties big time. There has been several models that the Supt has been looking at. I don't think he will be making those choices until he knows exactly what he is getting. Meaning again he is not happy with the level or quality of supervisors in this department. That I can tell you is fact cause I have heard that from his mouth!
The other stuff is only thoughts on what he has requested and have been told/asked to look into. We are going to all have to weather out the storm just like Jody Weis until this guy proves to us. He may in the long run be able to change the way out CPD is run for the better with attempting to place qualified people in charge. But we all know how that goes in chicago. STAY SAFE
Rumors are heating up that November is going to be full of changes. More than a few exempts have put in papers or are planning to shortly. Word of re-apportioning the watches, removing Commander discretion from the mix, reorganizing the Bureaus, etc. A lot of it is the regular static with a new administration, but the sheer volume of it all leads us to believe something is up. This commentator might have a closer look that many of us do.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
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He will never be able to remove the house cats or front office people That is even if he gets an accurate account of how many there are. The commanders will do what they do now, lie to him and just put the front office people on made up beat cars, special cars, walking posts, etc On paper and the A & A sheets they will appear to be working the street
Now we know why he said we have enough Detectives.....
He's gonna close two areas and transfer those dicks to:
Area 2 = South.
Area 5 = North
Area 4 = West
Close Area 1 and 3..........
You can shuffle turds around all you want. You still end up with turds all over the place.
Get rid of tact Lt's.
Civilians can't work the desk because of LEADS, only law enforcement is allowed on computers with access, so how will the civilians do the reports?
I watched the entire channel 11 replay of the interview with the superintendent. He sounded sincere and believable. Time will tell. After so many years of cynicism, corruption and mayoral lies, it is hard to tell if anyone is telling the truth. I say give the man a chance. It is way too early. Way too many people on this blog bash Jody and now McNulty, but speak fondly of Uncle terry, Klein, Matt and the rest who have a proven track record of selling everyone out. McNulty has not done that as of yet.
10/05/2011 03:10:00 PM
The man's name is McCarthy. NOT McNulty.
And if you watched the interview so closely, you heard him attempt to stroke Carol Marin, who looked a bit shocked at the come-on, but recovered her professional demeanor and then RE-asked the question he had tried to deflect with his suave and manly ways.
Oh, yeah; he's as straightforward as they come.
You'll know who 35th St Mole is when someone gets launched from the building Thursday or Friday for letting the cat out of the bag.
My retirement moves closer every day. I do not care how the asshole from Newark wants to change things. Sorry, I know many of you still have years left to put in here but I am grateful I do not. I am almost done.
It's ALL bullshit until we see it happen.
If he REALLY wanted people on the street, he would get caps and liason PO's on the street.
Fuck the new police 90% are worth shit. How can you have 5 years on work days and have the nerve to complain because I put you on a late beat car. Not rapid but BEAT car.
SCC, was that post submitted to you by a janitor at 35th St. or just a CPS graduate?
Although right now, at 0610 on channel 5, they announced the ballerino will be announcing big changes in CPD that will put his goal of 1,000 coppers on the street over the top.
Eeeeeeks!!!!
There will be very few inside office P.O.'s Sgt's or L'ts anymore.
But lots of homeless people. Makes alot of sense . A 911 call fom inside the police station.
I can certainly sympathize with the Supt.'s alleged
low opinion of front line supervision here in the
CPD. It is indeed atrocious! As a sgt., it's just
appalling what other sgts. allow to occur right
under their very noses, all the while pretending
they don't see a thing. Officers show up for
roll call actually dirty, unwashed, unshaven,
and their assigned sgt. never sees it; neither
does the WC. If I say anything (and I do) then
of course I'm the 'bad guy.' Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues.
I can't wait till they shake up the command staff in I.A.D.
yawn.... can i get an event number?
35th st. Mole
Don't hold me to this but I think the Command changes will be announced either on Friday or the Friday right after the 12th OCT City Council meeting where the Mayor is to announce his 2012 budget. I cannot see the Supt being allowed to make any announcement of changes related to the budget till after the Mayor does so.
I do know that if the budget is approved changes to the duties of Capt, Lt, Sgt and Det's will come very quickly after. The new Supt likes to run things with fear, let's see after the 12th how much real bite he has. STAY SAFE
How are they looking for people assigned to the front office? In my district , in addition to the 2 secretaries, there's 3 more that hang out up there but are carried in some made up role on the A&A's. That's where the cuts could and should be made.
Manning a district desk with 1P.O., 1Sgt. and no watch secretary is absolutely ridiculous, dangerous and impossible. Does McNutty know there are bidded spots per the contract?? Better question does he or Rahm actually give a fuck?
Obviously Rahm and McNutty are hellbent on running this department completely into the ground.
Only one officer with a sgt. on the desk? In 025 they have about four. They just give them other names (station security, bond officer,etc.) to keep them there.
Won't happen too much, too many outsiders-Rev'runds, Aldermen, Community Organizers have too much imput and pull.
They tried civilians upstairs and at the desk about 20 years ago, it failed miserably because they didn't know the true ins and outs of this place.
McGoofy can try all he wants, even Rhammie can't control some of this shit.
I call bullshit. TOTAL bullshit. Anyone close enough to the Supt to be privy to his game plan AINT gonna reveal it...it wouldn't be too hard to figure out who the "Mole" is. Also, spots like the desk and relief are bid and part of our contract, so aint shit gonna happen on this front. Im a bid desk guy and I PRAY McInfidelity is dumb enough to send me out in a beat car. Ill push that car til retirement for time-and-a-half, thank you very much! The "Mole" is little more than a recurring agitator. And in the grand scheme of things any changes that actually do come about wont effect 99% of us, so let's ignore all these predictions for now and concentrate on whats REALLY important...pension issues and the next contract.
- WSIDN
Is this "MOLE" intentionally misspelling words? Is the "MOLE" a double knot spy perhaps?
Close Area 1 and 3..........
10/06/2011 12:31:00 AM
Please don't close our store in A/3 it generates revenue and has great Dunkin' Donuts coffee!
I agree with this poster, SCC: info is increasingly hard to come by and even the top exempts are left to trade to rumors and speculation because no one seems to no what is going on or where we are headed.
My retirement moves closer every day. I do not care how the asshole from Newark wants to change things. Sorry, I know many of you still have years left to put in here but I am grateful I do not. I am almost done.
10/06/2011 01:47:00 AM
Don't let the door hit you in your ass on the way out...PUTZ
He may be able to put some on the street, but not all. It's called bid spots per the contract. Bid spots on the desk cannot be taken away. Also, like the previous post said, commanders will hide their people with bs beats and they will be exactly where they are now.
And lets not forget about the Tac secretary, Give me a fuckin break !
We are often left with no available seating for the amount of Sgts on days in our Area It's like watching adult musical chairs.
I can certainly sympathize with the Supt.'s alleged
low opinion of front line supervision here in the
CPD. It is indeed atrocious! As a sgt., it's just
appalling what other sgts. allow to occur right
under their very noses, all the while pretending
they don't see a thing. Officers show up for
roll call actually dirty, unwashed, unshaven,
and their assigned sgt. never sees it; neither
does the WC. If I say anything (and I do) then
of course I'm the 'bad guy.' Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues.
10/06/2011 06:55:00 AM
I will agree with your points. However I did notice your first complaint was appearance. With all the things wrong with the department that was the first thing that came to your mind? I never get why so many people are worried if someone else is clean shaven. If a PO does all the other stuff right I think you can overlook a 5 O'clock shadow.
Far too many people who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look at some in-service training to stem these issues.
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Or MAYBE you just drank too much of the KoolAid and those other supervisors aren't quite so gullible.
How about the new police/fire public safety building at 35 & mich? I can't wait for streets and san to move in and clear up all the bullshit that will be and has been filling that building.
I can certainly sympathize with the Supt.'s alleged
low opinion of front line supervision here in the
CPD. It is indeed atrocious! As a sgt., it's just
appalling what other sgts. allow to occur right
under their very noses, all the while pretending
they don't see a thing. Officers show up for
roll call actually dirty, unwashed, unshaven,
and their assigned sgt. never sees it; neither
does the WC. If I say anything (and I do) then
of course I'm the 'bad guy.' Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues.
-------------------------------------------------------------------------Sgt, I understand the uniform and being on time being an issue but being an aggressive police officer in this liberal run city is worthless! I have 14yrs on and I've worked tact teams and tru as well as my time on the ghetto beat car and I see the writing on the wall. Above anything, this is a job!
While I may not agree with all of the changes or proposed changes, we have been stuck with an attitude of "we have always done it this way" that we resist change. Keep an open mind and judge the change after you see if it works. Don't prejudge. This department has been big and bulky and slow to respond to a changing society that it is about time that we had a fresh outside look at our department.
I watched the wttw thing with mcbullshit too He is a flat out lieing politician. Fuck him. I wouldnt trust as far as i can throw him.
Commanders fooled JFLED and continue to fool Garry McCarthy by hiding full duty officers inside.
Why does CPD have Commanders in charge of MLAS , ERPS ,Crime Lab when a SGT or LT could be the Commanding Officer .
I can certainly sympathize with the Supt.'s alleged
low opinion of front line supervision here in the
CPD. It is indeed atrocious! As a sgt., it's just
appalling what other sgts. allow to occur right
under their very noses, all the while pretending
they don't see a thing. Officers show up for
roll call actually dirty, unwashed, unshaven,
and their assigned sgt. never sees it; neither
does the WC. If I say anything (and I do) then
of course I'm the 'bad guy.' Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues.
10/06/2011 06:55:00 AM
ACTIVITY???? Realy Sarge? Who in thier right mind would produce ANY extra activity on this job with this CRAP going on!!!!!! You need to get your head out of your butt and take care of your men. Why give any extra to this administration.....just make shure you and your men go home safe at the end of your shift!!!!! ....activity.....sheesh!!!!!!
To begin with: Most Units do not need Lts and can be run by Sgts. Sgts can also run District Watches at less pay than Lts make.
Dicks should be reassigned from Areas to individual Districts.
Also it is a good idea to hire retired POs to work the desks, front offices, and most of all OEMC since they can relate to calls and speak understandable English.
About time!
How many house cats come in late and go home early? When a working copper can't take time even with a slip!
No commander of th DOC, the one there now is so inept it is unbelieveable. He can spin some bs but when it comes time to act he doesn't know what to do. He is the one providing the numbers on crime stats. It doesn't stop there. His Lt is a typical overpromoted fool. They both think they are smarter than all the people working for them. Here's a clue Steve, more counseling is not going to fix the train reck you call the DOC. The word is out on your sinking ship.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Get rid of tact Lt's.
Civilians can't work the desk because of LEADS, only law enforcement is allowed on computers with access, so how will the civilians do the reports?
10/06/2011 01:33:00 AM
That's a myth. Non sworn do and can work on LEADS. Walk upstairs on the 3rd floor at headquarters and see for yourself. Some have less than full access and some have full access.
Gulp.
Hey 655a.m. - FUCK YOU!
Im guessing your phone call died or retired and along with it went the promise of you getting your bar? Unfulfilled is ANOTHER undeserved promotion? Its obvious you were never the police pre-chevrons, as your petty gripes are pathetic given the totality of current-day CPD. Mind your (and my) business that actually is pertinent, not the fact that I may waltz into rollcall with the occasional five o'clock shadow, you Company Man handjob.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I can certainly sympathize with the Supt.'s alleged
low opinion of front line supervision here in the
CPD. It is indeed atrocious! As a sgt., it's just
appalling what other sgts. allow to occur right
under their very noses, all the while pretending
they don't see a thing. Officers show up for
roll call actually dirty, unwashed, unshaven,
and their assigned sgt. never sees it; neither
does the WC. If I say anything (and I do) then
of course I'm the 'bad guy.' Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues.
10/06/2011 06:55:00 AM
Maybe Sgt the way the officers act,dress etc. reflects how they feel about this job, department and how they're treated. Just a thought
Fuck the new police 90% are worth shit. How can you have 5 years on work days and have the nerve to complain because I put you on a late beat car. Not rapid but BEAT car.
10/06/2011 04:37:00 AM
Why don't you quit whining about it on a computer blog. Grow some of your "old" police balls, tell them to STFU, and fuck with their assignments until they get it.
Does anyone know if N.Y. police stations are as accessible and unsecured as ours are? Do N.Y. precinct desks operate with just 1 officer? I highly doubt it.
Where does this fool come up with this shit?
Wow , that was a rough read. I hope you weren't trying to stay incognito my brother (or sister). Someone is gonna recognize that writing style. Thanks for the info though. Keep it coming.
Earlier today,on TV, they said Rahm and McCarthy were having a press conference on redistribution of man power.
I can certainly sympathize with the Supt.'s alleged
low opinion of front line supervision here in the
CPD. It is indeed atrocious! As a sgt., it's just
appalling what other sgts. allow to occur right
under their very noses, all the while pretending
they don't see a thing. Officers show up for
roll call actually dirty, unwashed, unshaven,
and their assigned sgt. never sees it; neither
does the WC. If I say anything (and I do) then
of course I'm the 'bad guy.' Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues.
10/06/2011 06:55:00 AM
Sir, have you considered bidding to a slower district. Once there, you'll have plenty time to nit pic, obsess over non issues, hold others to standards that you never embraced as a blue shirt and in general make the PO's life just a little bit more miserable.
Civilians can't work the desk because of LEADS, only law enforcement is allowed on computers with access, so how will the civilians do the reports?
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The same way PO's approve my arrest report when a sgt should be doing it. Said PO's even have the nerve to put their two cents in despite them being furry house mice. Will the city be held accountable when I get sued and a supervisor did not approve my arrest but instead a blue shirt.
6: 55 am, i understand your a company man and you might be part of the reason for your officers apathy. Your post pretty much throws coppers under the bus. If you work the street you well know AIRA, most of the time doesnt work in the cars and sometimes it goes down for hours on end, in the districts. There goes the over, half the tour arrest. Officers have discretion, the days of sandbagging, to fit your quotas, are frowned upon, by officers who refused to be used as scapegoats, by you or anyone else, who will throw the coppers under the bus, when a citizen beefs, on some bs. Im sure you would be the first to initiate the cr#, because your doing it for duty and humanity. If the po's are sloppy tell him or her so, but the last 22 years of the different command structures, the beating and berating by the media, revruns and intellectually challenged politicians, the po's have become, a little like abused children and their appearance is a reflection of that. Im not trying to make excuses, their are a few officers, in every district, that can use a shave, haircut, or even a bath, on a given day, but its been my experience that they correct themselves. all the po's ive seen always look professional. The comraderie of riding with other units, on any calls, has been waning, but that comes with the us against them mentality, this department has helped foster, with the promotions of meritorious hacks and the "special people" . Dont know how long you've been a sargeant, you might really care for the throops, but if your post is any indication of how you feel po's are, your part of the problem. Good supervisors are hard to come, most po's would do anything for a good boss. A good boss would have never placed that whiny post. G-d bless the CPD and CFD.
As long as you lock the front door and the back door too, you can run a desk with one Sgt. and 1 PO. That's about enough people to answer the 5 incoming phone lines & nothing else.
Just try and get 20 MF'ers to court with only one person handling it.
Or maybe they'll cut the number of incoming phone lines to 2.
Civilians are at the 911 center and are full leads access after a leads test like all dispatchers,so why can't they work the desk.
More hocus-pocus. It'll be over in less than 4 years.
Sorry, Supe, but "slash and burn" DOES NOT constitute reinventing the police department. You're just fulfilling an ignorant campaign pledge (no doubt to enhance your own political stock).
"Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues."
10/06/2011 06:55:00 AM
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OR maybe you have been smoking to much dope.
No doubt he will make some changes to put his own stamp on things.
No one with half a brain telegraphs what he is doing in this kind of situation until he is ready to do it.
In the end, it won't change as much as people might think. There are limits to what can be done, versus what one might want to do.
I would expect a reshuffling of the top couple of layers of big shots, and maybe elimination of a layer or two of them, but nothing that amounts to anything.
What is he going to do? There just are not that many candidates available to pick from that would be acceptable to the thieves that run the city and could also actually manage to improve things any.
You really believe Rahm is going to give up having his thumb on top of every city department? Not going to happen. He is a control freak of the same order as daley was and he is not going to accept anything less then total blind obedience.
It is not like you can take a bunch of Sgts and Lts used to supervising a few or a few dozen people, and turn them into executives with multimillion dollar budgets and hundreds or thousands of employees overnight.
"I can certainly sympathize with the Supt.'s alleged
low opinion of front line supervision here in the
CPD. It is indeed atrocious! As a sgt., it's just
appalling what other sgts. allow to occur right
under their very noses, all the while pretending
they don't see a thing. Officers show up for
roll call actually dirty, unwashed, unshaven,
and their assigned sgt. never sees it; neither
does the WC. If I say anything (and I do) then
of course I'm the 'bad guy.' Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues."
10/06/2011 06:55:00 AM
trying to run a legitimate operation, within an illegitimate and politically corrupt organization?.....good luck
How can he have an opinion on the supervisors when he hasn't had any contact with the majority of them. As much as I hate Jody within a month of his appointment I had seen him in our station for roll call and speaking with the W/C for a period of time. Also saw him out on the street with his driver. haven't seen this guy out there at all. As far as his evaluating the lt and capt. he didn't even consider the ones without the clouted reference for the position of commander so most likely the best ones out there have not even crossed his radar. Only when he gets out into the districts and speaks with the non meritorious will he see the talent that exists on our department. Howvever the clouted will never allow that to ocurr because it will show them up for the incompetent boobs that they really are.
Well if the current supervisors didn't cheat on the promo exams, we'd have a better bunch
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I can certainly sympathize with the Supt.'s alleged
low opinion of front line supervision here in the
CPD. It is indeed atrocious! As a sgt., it's just
appalling what other sgts. allow to occur right
under their very noses, all the while pretending
they don't see a thing. Officers show up for
roll call actually dirty, unwashed, unshaven,
and their assigned sgt. never sees it; neither
does the WC. If I say anything (and I do) then
of course I'm the 'bad guy.' Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues.
10/06/2011 06:55:00 AM
Ok boss, you be the brave one and do your supervision. Let's see what the consequences will be. Some of those officer's whose toe you stepped on may decide to fight back! If you care so much about activity then why the fuck aren't you out there writing tickets, writing contact cards, making arrests and stuff?
Anonymous said...
Fuck the new police 90% are worth shit. How can you have 5 years on work days and have the nerve to complain because I put you on a late beat car. Not rapid but BEAT car.
10/06/2011 04:37:00 AM
That says it all.
Listen mr anonymous 0655am u need to worry bout urself mr company man,take off ur knee pads and n be grateful u get back up wen ur needing help on the streets...why bring any numbers for these garbage bosses.plus I only have almost 4 1/2 and I earned my spot on days
Listen Sgt. who was complaining about the Pos being unshaven and unwashed ect ect. Quit being a micro manager. (U know you are) Since you got your beloved stripes did you forget people have lives, court and part times. I work in a busy district and the calls come 24/7 non stop. Of course we take our time on an arrrest. Why in the world would i want to hurry up and get back on the street so oemc call bury me in calls. If your so concerned about it take an arrest in and process it. Help us out. (and not one that is only good for an honorable mention).
Get off our backs the animals are gonna act like animals regardless of what I look like, who answers the radio on time and who does activity or not.
If i feel like wearing a white nike stripe on my shoes Im gonna do it and I bet you wont say nething beacause you know in the grand scheme of things it doesnt really matter now does it.
"...Way too many people on this blog bash Jody and now McNulty, but speak fondly of Uncle terry, Klein, Matt and the rest who have a proven track record of selling everyone out. McNulty has not done that as of yet.
10/05/2011 03:10:00 PM
The man's name is McCarthy. NOT McNulty."
I think the CPD needs Jimmy McNulty.
(and it's Cline, Klein)
how about stop the clout requirement to be a sgt!the tests and merit selection process is all fixed!all the real police can see thru the hacks!
Gee Sarg, you sound like a fucking idiot! Activity, then let me guess you jam the copper when the ct# comes down! I hate to tell you but in service training isn't going to make you a decent supervisor or give you a clue how to be one. You should look in the mirror and SLAP THE SHIT OUT OF YOURSELF!
He will never be able to remove the house cats or front office people That is even if he gets an accurate account of how many there are. The commanders will do what they do now, lie to him and just put the front office people on made up beat cars, special cars, walking posts, etc On paper and the A & A sheets they will appear to be working the street
10/06/2011 12:29:00 AM
this shit goes on in 001 all the time..we have soooooo many people on tact/foot...hide away spots...all with a political sponsership...
great ideal with the detectives make them work for once.
On Tribune website Rahm claims he's putting 138 "lockup" officers back on the street. Really? How the Hell is that gonna work?
There's a bidded lockup spot,under the contract, for each watch in each district. Maybe Rahm doesn't give a fuck about such trivial things as contracts. Afterall it's Rahms way or the highway.
Rahm also said we need officers being beat cops not beaurocrats. Seriously?? He's saying "lockup" officers are beaurocrats? He's completely out of touch with district operations. The same goes for McNutty. He's referred to desk officers as administrative officers. Hello Mr. McNutty, desk officers do all sorts of
various police stuff at the desk and little, if any, administrative stuff.
Your administrative, beaurocratic officers are the ones in CAPS and the plethora of officers camped out in the Administrative office in each district. Those positions, besides being made up, aren't covered under the contract either.
Get rid of tact Lt's.
Civilians can't work the desk because of LEADS, only law enforcement is allowed on computers with access, so how will the civilians do the reports?
10/06/2011 01:33:00 AM
Really? Is that why all of the people working the Leads desk at HQ are civilians?
Whoops! I typed mcNulty instead of Mccarthy, my mistake. But, i ddid watch the channel 11 interview closely and I did not see him stroking anyone. He was careful of his answers saying things are still being looked into. That does not mean he will be a city hall tool. That is a different thing entirely. Yes, he did defelct a few questions, because, as he said, things are still being looked at. I just do not equate this with being in the pocket of the mayor. Apples and oranges here.
Three area stations each having six police districts stations.
Tac Secretaries are a Big Waste of man power,this spot can be taken over by desk watch bid or light duty officers.
In my time, Martin, Rodriguez, Hillard, Cline, Weiss, and McCarthy have all given orders to cut desk personnel. Never happens. Desk people just get put inside to file contact cards, or some other BS job. Then after a couple weeks there is again 3-5 people on the desk, reading magazines and trying to decide what to order for lunch/dinner. You can bet your life two Areas are gone! It will be devided into South, North, West. Rahm saves money by eliminating two cmdr salaries, and getting rid of six Lt spots. In each Area there is a Lt for HGS, SVU, RBT.
Let's see we're gonna shake everything up, create all sorts of disgruntled employees and then expect the Department to perform at optimum levels? This is logical how?
It's sort of like stretching a rubberband you can only do it so far before it snaps and breaks. But don't worry McNutty says we have plenty of officers and plenty of detectives. Riiiight!
I hope the sheeple who voted Rahm in are happy. He's trying his damnedest to run this dept. completely into the ground.
Is this guy "Morocco Mole", Secret Squirrels sidekick??
" Also same as desk crews (only one CPD sworn to handle desk, and watch sect duties (along with the Sgt)."
For the benefit of Supt. McStupid, the following can be found on page 92 of the collective bargaining agreement.
The Employer shall select the most senior qualified bidder for the position of District Watch Relief. If there are not sufficient bidders to fill a District Watch Relief position declared vacant by the Employer, the Employer shall fill such vacancy within its discretion.
The following are the number of District Desk, District Lockup, and District Watch Relief positions subject to bid under the provisions of Section 23.9:
Dist Desk Lockup W/Relief
001 6 0 9
002 6 6 12
003 6 3 9
004 6 3 9
005 6 6 12
006 6 3 9
007 6 3 9
008 6 3 9
009 6 3 9
010 6 3 9
011 6 6 12
012 6 3 9
013 6 3 9
Dist Desk Lockup W/Relief
014 6 3 9
015 6 3 9
016 6 3 9
017 6 3 9
018 6 3 9
019 6 6 12
020 6 3 9
021 6 3 9
022 6 3 9
023 6 3 9
024 6 3 9
025 6 6 12
Damn, and I gave up my bid desk spot a while ago. If only I had kept it, I would be lined up for a nice,fat grievance. Put me on the street at time and a half?? Go for it dummies.
Honest to God, it is hard to believe that the management of this department is so obtuse when it comes to the contract. It's really not a hard read.
On a side note, a cop from Detroit was just indicted for murder for killing a 7 year old during a search warrant. I don't have any more info, but the one thing I gleaned from the news is that the Grand Jury had....ready for it...One person on it...and you thought Crook County was bad...
I really don't knoww how my partner and I can do less. Yahtzee and Scrabble can only take you so far...
"Routine arrests that take up half the tour of duty? Nothing said or done."
TRU dat. 5 hours for an arrest in mah district is standard practice because...no PDT, finding a working AND available computer in the station is nearly impossible ("no tic-tac office computer 4 u cuz u no know secret circle jerk handshake"), the desk and processing room printers are broken, no property inventory bags (the ones we had until recently were hand crafted by the shriners), the desk sgt. and w/c are in the middle of the mid evening coffee clutch so the arrest report can't be approved, the ever-friendly hip-hop civilian lockup aide is working AND the cta plane clothes boyz are doing a turnstyle jumping sting with six juvy arrestees in line to be printed.
Once all that shit is waded through and the female prisoner has been printed and photographed, it's time to wait with her in the processing room for a minimum of two hours until she clears.
These dayz if the arrest takes less than half a tour that's an accomplishment. Solution? Bring back paper arrests, paper reports, paper inventories.
McSqurrel can do all the top secret planning he wants but as long as no one considers the implications on the lowly patrol dope, it ain't gonna change a thing.
But we're supposed to sit back while McSquirrel attempts to create NYPD West AND give him the benefit of the doubt while front line CPD manpower continues to shrink faster than a soon to be exwife's libido?
Fine. I'll be waiting in the processing room. Have McSquirrel throw a Jersey toll token at my head when the new stone tablets have been brought down from the 5th Floor.
AS of December no more PO s in lockup? That cant be a good thing.
No Watch Secretary! Omigod, the sky is falling. Having beentheredone that, it only means the W/C will have to actually do tomorrow's work sheets, and of course get his own coffee or friskies from the lockup.
I get the appearance thing completely. When Patton took over the US II Corps after it got its ass handed to it in February of 1943 one of the first things he did is issue an order that soldiers would be in proper uniform, including the neck tie. When asked how wearing a neck tie would help them fight Germans he pointed out that it would remind the wearer that he was a soldier. Looking at some of my fellow officers, it wouldn't hurt if they were reminded they were the police, then they might actually work.
Just heard , remember when the Supt. said no more cops in the schools, the Mayor came out and said they are staying. Who's running the dept.? And now they say it will be up to the principals to decide. Great cps now makes decisions re. Cpd, wtf
The Supt. needs to look into the front offices re. The officers that made a career out of being inside. All the dists.
The more things change the more they stay the same. The inside people move to choice dists. While the workers get Shit on. Watch where these inside people move to vs where the units got shipped to.
And what about all the inside people taken care of by ea watch, let alone commanders and dep. Chiefs. Check the a/a s.
We have tact teams, gang teams , area teams with Lts responsible for 2-3 sgts .
Officers who routinely
fail to arrive on the scene of in progress calls
unless it's their job? Nothing said or done.
Officers with consistent low or nonexistent
activity? Nothing said or done. Can't raise
a car on the air? Nothing said or done. Routine
arrests that take up half the tour of duty?
Nothing said or done. Far too many people
who wear chevrons out on these streets really
don't want to be sgts., or are poorly trained
to the task. Maybe the Academy needs to look
at some in-service training to stem these issues.
10/06/2011 06:55:00 AM
What do expect the academy to do with the non-workers? Training is not the problem but rather a lack of supervision. I just cannot understand the horrible lack of leadership.
Soon Outside Westside do Nothing, hopes and prays he is sent to the streets...time and a half to do nothing??...as the indiginous population of the west side would say..."Gibs me sum a dat..."
News conference today, o17, 23, 24,lockups to maned by civilians. Officers out on the street..
maybe in 16 we will be lucky enough to have a monday / friday saturday sunday off foot post but gets a car 1682 north and 1682 south when they kick out the front office people
I had a mole surface. ON MY ASS!
Back in the 70's there were civilians assigned to lockups through out the city. They were part of a federal program where Uncle Sam paid most of their salaries. CETA employees were non union and had lower medical benefits than other city employees. When federal funding dried up so did the jobs. Their replacements were sworn personnel because the work still had to be done.
Changes are good.
Heard it today. Detectives will work out of just 3 areas. N/S/W. Fugitive/detail unit changes.
Imagine how many dets will retire. The other thing is, where is a building big enough to fit everyone into 3 areas???
What a clusterfuck this is going to be!
who cares go to roll call, smile get your keys and radios, go to your car and do what you normally do. The only ones who it will bother are the lazy p/o's who are scared of the street.
I find it truly amazing that we are still working with Windows 2003. Seriously. Our software is almost 9 years old. In IT-world, that is equated to about 300 years.
Someone tell the Supt. you can grab 5-6 P.O.'s from each district by pulling the Asst dist. secretaries out ( no need for two, they take turns working and leaving early, tact sect. and the former c a p s people, now called foot posts or liason officers and the computer geeks who run the commanders reports. Also get rid of the rest of the P.O.'s doing timekeeping, this is done by civilians in half of the districts. Most of these inside people had worked the street only a short time and most have been inside the majority of their careers, never getting wet or cold like us slugs who actually are doing the job that we were hired for. If anything, use light duty(legit ones) and old timers on any and all inside jobs.
When the time comes that Mc Clueless decides that a radio room person is no longer needed then I want to work with the 011 2nd watch radio man. He is one sexy guy and has the right attitude. I mean we really dont need to keep track of who is driving what car, has what raido or tazer. Isn't it all about accountability Mc Clueless????? He will be the 2nd Supt in a row who will not have a retirement party attended by anyone but himself and Ballerino
And as important, it's double naught (as in zero) spy not "double knot". You never were much at cyphering, Jethro.
The press conference today in 008 , nice horse n pony show. I resent the commander calling the outside units "transient", a choice of wording meant as an insult and a disconnect. Those units had more Intel briefings and knew more of what was going on in the districts than many bosses., and knowing who to target and arrest, and gang intel. With all the defending this leadership seems to be doing, sounds like a lot of second guessing the decision of eliminating the call out units.
Maybe you can explain why all these officers were targeted and sent to only south side districts, while desk dogs were awarded with assignments to northside districts.
Save your rhetoric and explain that to us.
And quit throwing out crime is down numbers, again trying to justify the decision. Crime is down because these officers are still working, has nothing to do with limiting them to one beat.
I only have almost 4 1/2 and I earned my spot on days
I can't believe you even posted this crap. Enjoy the bashing jr. 4 1/2 years and you earned it holy fuck. I am laughing my fucking ass off right now. My wife is laughing now, and the dogs are going crazy too. Thanks for the laugh. I just can't stop laughing. rotflmao.........
When is this city going to give us the transparent government that they boast about?
I'm talking about the violent crime stats that must be so flaky that the FBI refuses to use them!
http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-the-u.s.-2010/tables/table-8/10tbl08il.xls
You'll note in that FBI table that the Chicago numbers are tagged with a footnote number 3
3 The data collection methodology for the offense of forcible rape used by Chicago, Illinois, does not comply with national Uniform Crime Reporting Program guidelines. Consequently, its figures for forcible rape and violent crime (of which forcible rape is a part) are not published in this table.
What are the numbers for forcible rape as defined by the FBI's guidelines in Chicago and have they been rising or falling?
" does not think highly of CPD exempts"-- NO SH##- I did not think much of them 30 years ago and throughout my time there. The problem is obvious- it is mostly political. Years ago , it was all the heavy weights, then came political correctness and we have to have so many of this and that. Leadership and the ability to process information is given no credit all. It is not going to change.
old retired guy
Just heard , remember when the Supt. said no more cops in the schools, the Mayor came out and said they are staying. Who's running the dept.? And now they say it will be up to the principals to decide. Great cps now makes decisions re. Cpd, wtf
10/06/2011 04:09:00 PM
Because those spots are funded by the CPS. If you don't like the decisions by the CPS don't work in the schools. They already have security guards.. We have room for you on a beat car handling backlogs. Come join the party on the streets.
When asked how wearing a neck tie would help them fight Germans he pointed out that it would remind the wearer that he was a soldier. Looking at some of my fellow officers, it wouldn't hurt if they were reminded they were the police, then they might actually work.
10/06/2011 04:07:00 PM
No wearing a tie will not make me work any harder. The morale in this dept has sunk so low it will take a lot more than that. But then again I'm on the way out of this dept soon so I guess I don't really give a fuck anymore. But good luck with that tie thing!!!
10/06/2011 12:48:00 PM
Cpd has a uniform! Dont like it find another job shitbag! Tired of all your fuckin excuses and no i am not a supervisor. Take pride in A uniform many gave their lives for. Ur punk as response pisses me off. Ur lucky im not ur sgt. I wouldnt be scared to set your ass straight.
To the moron, "016th Dist. 2nd Watch", you don't "earn" anything working in 016 for 4 and 1/2 years you goof.
DEAR MR.MOLE:
THE SUPE IS ASKING FOR RECORDS OF EXEMPTS TO SEE WHO PUT THEM IN FOR THE CLOUTED SPOT OF CHIEFS COMMANDERS ETC ETC.
HE CANT JUST DUMP PEOPLE LIKE CARRUTHER OR THE PENNY.
THE STUDY OF CIVILIANS DOING ACCIDENT REPORTS AND DESK JOBS HAS BEEN KNOWN SINCE THE 1960S.
AND NO U DONT NEED POLICE TRAINING TO RIGHT THE SCENE IS CONTAMINATED SOMEONE BROKE IN.
AND ELIMINATING AREAs.
PRINTER,TOILETS,COMPUTERS, AND FAX MACHINES NEVER WORK.
THE DEPARTMENT BUILT MILLION DOLLAR BUILDING YET KEPT ALL THE AREAS IN RUNNED DOWN SHIT HOLES.
THE COMMANDERS AT EVERY AREA DONT COUNT EACH PERSON SHOT JUST THE CASE REPORT GENERATED.
BURGLARY'S ARE CLOSED ON HUNCHES
THEFTS ARE NOT EVEN LOOKED AT UNLESS THEY INVOLVE SOME BIG WIG.
DOMESTICS ARE FILED SO FAST UNTIL A WOMAN IS KILLED THEN WATCH OUT THE COMMANDER CARES THEN.
ET'S DONT WANT TO COME OUT TO SCENES BECAUSE THEY ACTUALLY THINK
TAKING PIKS OF LINEUPS CANT BE DONE BY A COLLEGE KID FOR 15 DOLLARS AN HOUR.
LUCKILY NO ONE KEEPS TRACK OF HOW MANY SCENES COME UP NEGATIVE FOR PRINTS.
AND SGT'S I JUST FEEL BAD FOR THEM
GLORIFIED BABY SITTERS WHO CANT EVEN CORRECT A TWO LINE REPORT FOR PROBABLE CAUSE.
AND GARBAGE MEN STILL MAKE MORE THAN US?
Sir, have you considered bidding to a slower district. Once there, you'll have plenty time to nit pic, obsess over non issues, hold others to standards that you never embraced as a blue shirt and in general make the PO's life just a little bit more miserable.
10/06/2011 10:20:00 AM
Ha Ha Ha Ha
"Consider bidding to a slower district" Ha Ha Ha Ha
How many house cats come in late and go home early? When a working copper can't take time even with a slip!
10/06/2011 09:31:00 AM
All of them and if it's your Friday then you only work half the tour.
ACTIVITY???? Realy Sarge? Who in thier right mind would produce ANY extra activity on this job with this CRAP going on!!!!!! You need to get your head out of your butt and take care of your men. Why give any extra to this administration.....just make shure you and your men go home safe at the end of your shift!!!!! ....activity.....sheesh!!!!!!
10/06/2011 09:28:00 AM
Really, not much activity is generated period, the check off sheets look an extra long carton of eggs. You say " take care of your guys", for what, showing up, you make over seventy grand a year to show up and do your jobs and most of you do it marginal at best; a mannequin in a uniforms performs better than most. You want your Sgt not to address when your late, dogging jobs, speaking to the public like there all shit, wearing your uniform like a slob and on top of that take care of your CRs with two on the end; come check off, "zeros". Please can someone show me in the orders where it is written that all you have to do is answer the radio . Your right what's going on around us is huge, the fucking that Ralm is bringing will be biblical, but seeing as how the vast majority on this job are on blue shirt well fare it would not bother me one bit. Quit lying to your selves; you aren't that special. This comment is not directed at all of you, some of you work your ass off but, the vast majority would not be noticed if it were not for your constant complaining. The going home safe goes with out saying so you not a total hemorrhoid.
@ 10/06/2011 08:40:00 AM
Tripping over each other for Rush Hour and Street Cleaning does not equate to "generating revenue."
You go after the strokes on their cell phones or blowing stop signs or failing to yield at a crosswalk...then you will be generating revenue and actually doing a Public Safety job.
On a side note, a cop from Detroit was just indicted for murder for killing a 7 year old during a search warrant. I don't have any more info, but the one thing I gleaned from the news is that the Grand Jury had....ready for it...One person on it...and you thought Crook County was bad...
I really don't knoww how my partner and I can do less. Yahtzee and Scrabble can only take you so far...
10/06/2011 03:06:00 PM
If you'd care to Investigate...
http://www.upi.com/Top_News/US/2011/10/05/Detroit-cop-charged-in-death-of-girl-7/UPI-27611317838153/
It smells though.
To the moronic poster who said you can get by with one officer by locking front and back doors and then simply answer 5 calls that come in: You sir are an asshat. You've obviously never worked the desk in a reasonably busy district. Where I work we'll get 5 calls within 5 minutes.
Who's going to do the radios? Who's going to bond out prisoners and get prisoners ready and off to court?
What about the steady stream of walk ins? Who's going to control the salleyport?
Multitasking only goes so far before problems and mistakes start to surface. I don't care what Rahm and McNutty say it's IMPOSSIBLE to run a desk with 1 P.O. and a Sgt. Besides being impossible I'd say it's not particularly safe either with all the homeless and misfits that are allowed to camp out in the station.
Anonymous said...
News conference today, o17, 23, 24,lockups to maned by civilians. Officers out on the street..
10/06/2011 04:58:00 PM
Ummm...if they are bid officers, they have the right, per contract, to file a grievance. Document everything officers, and enjoy your time and a half if assigned to the street.
If the officers in question do not file, then they only have themselves to blame.
I luv the know it all, do nothings in the training division.
C4 will turn them house cat loose.
For all you guys who keep saying the contract says this the contract says that. Guess what in 2012 the contract is over and time to get a new one. And guess what is going to happen. Exactly what the Mayor wants to happen. So say bye bye to the bid desk spots!
Heard it today. Detectives will work out of just 3 areas. N/S/W. Fugitive/detail unit changes.
Imagine how many dets will retire. The other thing is, where is a building big enough to fit everyone into 3 areas???
What a clusterfuck this is going to be!
Must be true,,,,,,they were in the locker rooms at Area Two today, counting the lockers
Superintendo can't get rid of the 7th dist commander, can he. You know, the doofus who stopped going to the mandatory compstat meetings because he doesn't have a clue. that being said, the dept is still run by goofs.
Well if the current supervisors didn't cheat on the promo exams, we'd have a better bunch
10/06/2011 12:20:00 PM
How dare you talk about mclovin's girlfriend that way!
It's all legit!
I love the way Rhambo ballerino is running this dept. and I'm sure the New Jersey guy agrees.
God save the CPD.....
In defense of 6:55 am
from PATTON: "...they don't look like soldiers, they don't act like soldiers, why should they be expected them to fight like soldiers?"
Same thing here. If they don't look like police, act like the police, how in the hell do we expect them to be the police?
Simple grooming and uniform standards have gone out the window. We're supposed to be a quasi military organization, but I see little that shows it.
When bosses start acting like bosses, leading by example and expecting the same maybe things can start to get better.
ACTIVITY???? Realy Sarge? Who in thier right mind would produce ANY extra activity on this job with this CRAP going on!!!!!! You need to get your head out of your butt and take care of your men. Why give any extra to this administration.....just make shure you and your men go home safe at the end of your shift!!!!! ....activity.....sheesh!!!!!!
10/06/2011 09:28:00 AM
Really, not much activity is generated period, the check off sheets look an extra long carton of eggs. You say " take care of your guys", for what, showing up, you make over seventy grand a year to show up and do your jobs and most of you do it marginal at best; a mannequin in a uniforms performs better than most. You want your Sgt not to address when your late, dogging jobs, speaking to the public like there all shit, wearing your uniform like a slob and on top of that take care of your CRs with two on the end; come check off, "zeros". Please can someone show me in the orders where it is written that all you have to do is answer the radio . Your right what's going on around us is huge, the fucking that Ralm is bringing will be biblical, but seeing as how the vast majority on this job are on blue shirt well fare it would not bother me one bit. Quit lying to your selves; you aren't that special. This comment is not directed at all of you, some of you work your ass off but, the vast majority would not be noticed if it were not for your constant complaining. The going home safe goes with out saying so you not a total hemorrhoid.
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To my fellow sergeant, you are absolutely correct. 50 percent of you could vanish tomorrow and no one would notice. You whine and bitch on this blog about this that and another, Hey, didn't they tell you the job was dangerous? Didn't they tell you we walk a tight rope between doing the right thing and getting screwed. Sure they did but you were probably texting some female and didn't hear the warnings. I'm so sick and tired of you whinny bitches already. Do the fucking job or quit already....And yea, I've been sued multiple times, just answered another CR number and I'm sure there will be more because unlike many of you whinny babies I've chosen to stay where it's busy (25 plus on)cause I am the police.
The Cmdr of 007 is a GOOF because he has stopped attending the Compstat meetings? The ones where
McNutty bashes the cmdrs (especially the South Side
cmdrs) of all that crime in their districts that they are
under pressure to quell with a complete lack of
resources to do so? And you think Carothers is a
GOOF not to attend these weekly bashes?
I'd have to say kudos to Carothers for not attending.
I think he's one of the smarter ones out there.
"You want crime cleared? Give me the resources
to do it, or leave me the fuck alone!"
Anonymous said...
Heard it today. Detectives will work out of just 3 areas. N/S/W. Fugitive/detail unit changes.
Imagine how many dets will retire. The other thing is, where is a building big enough to fit everyone into 3 areas???
What a clusterfuck this is going to be!
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Here's an idea, maybe they could be on the streets. Does anyone else remember when Det's used to ride on in-progress calls, when they made arrest or assisted you with your paper? Yes kid that used to go on. Now it's all about putting out an I/A and letting tact or gangs pick the guy up. In the meantime there is cleaning to be picked up, kid's game to see, and yes reports to type. Sure there are still some Det's that work their butts off but many don't do jack. We have become such a collection of lazy, entitled, cry babies. And as far as work load goes you Northside guys are just going to have to get used to the idea of more then one call a week. Northside Det's are going to have to share the load with their Southside and Westside counterparts. You've been making the same money for doing a lot less for way to long (not to mention those awards for bullshit). I work a lot of special(well when there was special) and the difference between a working Southside copper and a Northside guy is like night and day. Welcome to the real CPD boys and girls.
I get the appearance thing completely. When Patton took over the US II Corps after it got its ass handed to it in February of 1943 one of the first things he did is issue an order that soldiers would be in proper uniform, including the neck tie. When asked how wearing a neck tie would help them fight Germans he pointed out that it would remind the wearer that he was a soldier. Looking at some of my fellow officers, it wouldn't hurt if they were reminded they were the police, then they might actually work.
10/06/2011 04:07:00 PM
Funny but work never gets us anywhere. I work my ass off and yet see others who are friends of the boss get the cars and preferred starting times. I get nothing but bounced around. Have been for years. And yes I have 17 years on so I'm not a hair gel. Watch Commanders don't care about your activity and if you're doing a good job, they only care if you don't have any then they fuck with you. Moral of the story is hard work will get you nowhere. You'll still be bounced around so it doesn't matter. You are not one of the chosen few to be provided a stable start time.
newsflash 10/06/11 @ 1012pm!!!!
the current contract stays in effect past 30June 12 until a new contract is settled/agreed upon/arbitrated. so my spot and those of every other BID desk, lockup and relief officer is safe. and dont count on FOP to bow to Rahm's pipe dream of a fast contract. we're going to see this contract dragged out like every other one. i sincerely hope they order me outside...time and a half means the house and kid's tuition gets paid that much quicker for me doing just as little.
your hair gel is showing, junior. now go write some more parkers & movers, you stupid fuck.
- I Know The Ropes
'Here's an idea, maybe they could be on the streets. Does anyone else remember when Det's used to ride on in-progress calls, when they made arrest or assisted you with your paper? Yes kid that used to go on. Now it's all about putting out an I/A and letting tact or gangs pick the guy up. In the meantime there is cleaning to be picked up, kid's game to see, and yes reports to type. Sure there are still some Det's that work their butts off but many don't do jack. We have become such a collection of lazy, entitled, cry babies. And as far as work load goes you Northside guys are just going to have to get used to the idea of more then one call a week. Northside Det's are going to have to share the load with their Southside and Westside counterparts. You've been making the same money for doing a lot less for way to long (not to mention those awards for bullshit). I work a lot of special(well when there was special) and the difference between a working Southside copper and a Northside guy is like night and day. Welcome to the real CPD boys and girls.'
Truer words were never spoken. Welcome to the war, Northside coppers and Dets.!
I have to agree with the angry sergeant. About 80% of the police, all ranks, do nothing and expect everything. They are criminally lazy and the epidemic of whining is out of control. They think because they made it out of the academy, they are entitled to come in late, leave early, do nothing all day, abuse the medical, and then whine if they don't get a car or starting time.
The other 20%, however, are courageous, brave heroes that could never be paid enough to compensate them for their worth. They work no matter who their bosses are and never forget that law enforcement is a noble calling.
I don't know, for all the variations of monikers, I still think Garry McCrappy makes the most sense.
Not only is it close to the original, but it really sums up the whole situation.
To many cry babies on the job! That's the short of it. Live at home went to school never had a job till they became cops. Still crying cause mom can't help them
News conference today, o17, 23, 24,lockups to maned by civilians. Officers out on the street..
Tell me what are these civilians going to do when a prisoner decides to fight with them???
newsflash 10/06/11 @ 1012pm!!!!
the current contract stays in effect past 30June 12 until a new contract is settled/agreed upon/arbitrated. so my spot and those of every other BID desk, lockup and relief officer is safe. and dont count on FOP to bow to Rahm's pipe dream of a fast contract. we're going to see this contract dragged out like every other one. i sincerely hope they order me outside...time and a half means the house and kid's tuition gets paid that much quicker for me doing just as little.
your hair gel is showing, junior. now go write some more parkers & movers, you stupid fuck.
- I Know The Ropes
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-I know the Ropes, sir you are a GOOF!!!!! You sir are the stupid FUCK and I am NOT the hair gel police either. In fact I have over 33 years on this job and still work a beat car, cause it my FUCKING JOB!!!!! What I said was (you must not be able to read) was that once the contract is settled there will be NO MORE inside BID spots!!!!! He is going to hire retired PO's to do the job! If you have a problem you lazy inside fuck come see me on days in 011!
Anonymous said...
News conference today, o17, 23, 24,lockups to maned by civilians. Officers out on the street..
Tell me what are these civilians going to do when a prisoner decides to fight with them???
10/08/2011 10:08:00 AM
Let them get their butts whipped. We didn't sign on this job to get attacked but we do. They want the job, take the lumps with it.
ACTIVITY???? Realy Sarge? Who in thier right mind would produce ANY extra activity on this job with this CRAP going on!!!!!! You need to get your head out of your butt and take care of your men. Why give any extra to this administration.....just make shure you and your men go home safe at the end of your shift!!!!! ....activity.....sheesh!!!!!!
10/06/2011 09:28:00 AM
Really, not much activity is generated period, the check off sheets look an extra long carton of eggs. You say " take care of your guys", for what, showing up, you make over seventy grand a year to show up and do your jobs and most of you do it marginal at best; a mannequin in a uniforms performs better than most. You want your Sgt not to address when your late, dogging jobs, speaking to the public like there all shit, wearing your uniform like a slob and on top of that take care of your CRs with two on the end; come check off, "zeros". Please can someone show me in the orders where it is written that all you have to do is answer the radio . Your right what's going on around us is huge, the fucking that Ralm is bringing will be biblical, but seeing as how the vast majority on this job are on blue shirt well fare it would not bother me one bit. Quit lying to your selves; you aren't that special. This comment is not directed at all of you, some of you work your ass off but, the vast majority would not be noticed if it were not for your constant complaining. The going home safe goes with out saying so you not a total hemorrhoid.
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To my fellow sergeant, you are absolutely correct. 50 percent of you could vanish tomorrow and no one would notice. You whine and bitch on this blog about this that and another, Hey, didn't they tell you the job was dangerous? Didn't they tell you we walk a tight rope between doing the right thing and getting screwed. Sure they did but you were probably texting some female and didn't hear the warnings. I'm so sick and tired of you whinny bitches already. Do the fucking job or quit already....And yea, I've been sued multiple times, just answered another CR number and I'm sure there will be more because unlike many of you whinny babies I've chosen to stay where it's busy (25 plus on)cause I am the police.
10/07/2011 12:27:00 AM
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I don't even know where to start. Aw fuck it. The two of (probably the same douche bag posting twice) you deserve each other. You guys should consider rooming together in the same south side trailer after your wives divorce you and Loevy & Loevy take most of your remaing assets on behalf of some shit head . Yep, the two of you can tell each other that you are "The Real Police" and what wortless dog assess 80% of the blue shirts are.
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