Contract Survey
The FOP is asking for input for the upcoming contract negotiations.
More likely than not, this is going to be the most important contract in our history. Protections must be defended and benefits must not be reduced. The City and Rahm are going to pull every trick in the book, invent some new ones and out-and-out lie in an effort to undermine the current agreement. Outside events are going to have an impact and we wouldn't bet against arbitration again.
So hop over to this link and let the FOP know what needs to be defended, what ought to be looked at and what should be a major concern, not only to you, but to your co-workers and to future coppers.
UPDATE: If you're having trouble getting to the survey, follow the FOP links in the right hand link bar.
More likely than not, this is going to be the most important contract in our history. Protections must be defended and benefits must not be reduced. The City and Rahm are going to pull every trick in the book, invent some new ones and out-and-out lie in an effort to undermine the current agreement. Outside events are going to have an impact and we wouldn't bet against arbitration again.
So hop over to this link and let the FOP know what needs to be defended, what ought to be looked at and what should be a major concern, not only to you, but to your co-workers and to future coppers.
UPDATE: If you're having trouble getting to the survey, follow the FOP links in the right hand link bar.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
74 Comments:
Tried the link you provide and it said I already completed the survey. WTF!!!
only things that matter are : money, medical benefits, preservation of current benefits, & retirement. all the ohter stuff is fluff and horseshit.
the link says i have already taken the survey, but i have not.
oh, and i forgot schedule and hours.
We must be united! Dont give up a damn thing like the teachers did! The teachers union is dividing as rahm plans for an extra 850 dollars a year. Now teachers have given up raises and longer school days and rahm has them right where he wants them.... he has them listening and agreeing with him more than their own union. Boys and girls, weather you like this guy shields or not we must stick together on this. If we give anything up our union is doomed. If we concede and let the city run over us and the union we are doomed. We need to keep a loud voice, a louder voice than what the city is going to do. Be prepared for negative attacks, for the media to portray us as a bunch of stubborn greed hungry cops who are over paid, over weight and lazy who dont do what they are paid for... The media blitz against us has already begun and will only get worse. Rahm is a union buster and is targeting us and our 1.7 billion dollar budget...the largest budget in the city. Almost 650 million of our budget is based on payroll obligations. The rest is pension and medical along with the other operating costs. They will go after all of the big ones... They will go after payroll, medical and pension. They dont care about the small amounts of the budget, they will attack the big three to try and chop as much as they can off the top. We cant be divided, we must unite for once or our union will be busted.
The City has been told the Summit does not qualify as an ILEAS event because it is preplanned. Unlike the Obama election night party where no one positively knew he would win the election, the upcoming Summit is preplanned and does not qualify. We are SOL!
Well, I was going to fill it out but all three survey questions were exactly the same question. If this is any indication of our current regime, I might as well get ready to grab my ankles.
OT The new McSupe is in a position to make Changes for Da Rahmo. He will implement many changes, he will be a goof at Compost Meetings (Who Cares has he dumped anyone? He is in no position to dump people. EVERYONE has a contact) I am glad he has not hurt anyone like Bill Cozzi like the last WEISASSHOLE! He was the Police and probably handled things the way Bill did a hundred times over. Until he does a COZZI on someone I DONT THINK HE WOULD give him the benefit of doubt! Hey make big changes but dont put people in prison. Learn to live for the 1st & 16th, its just a job and NO LONGER A CAREER!!!!! Bill will be out soon and I am sure McSupe would be glad to donate to Bill's fund! I was at Father Nangles party and some money was raised for him. I HOPE 20x that or more is raised for him when he gets out. He has suffered long enough! Lets welcome Bill Back with open arms. HE WILL ALWAYS BE A BROTHER IN BLUE!!!!
The Inspector General was on AT ISSUE. He all pretty much said they will be going after Duty Availability and Supervisors Quarterly next contract.
the mighty chicago police department is about to be brought to it's knees come january 2012--- the days of a 13,500 member force will be gone forever--- if you are in a specialized unit you better make your phone call now or bid out as soon as possible--- raccoon eyes rahmbo and his schill gmac believe that the cpd can survive with a 7000 member force---
it says i already took the survey. typical fop bullshit. i can promise i didnt take it. doesnt anything in the department or city work?
I have a great idea. FIGHT THIS TIME! None of this bargaining in good faith bullshit. If they push we shove back. And when the city/ Rahm do the typical no answer BS then we cause havok. ZERO Tollerance. Traffic stops gallore. Gridlock. And blame it all on Rahm. But we dont stick together so never mind!
If Bill Cozzi is getting out soon, let us start planning the biggest benefit in CPD history. The venue will have to be huge! Does anyone know if anything is in the works yet?
Let me know when the party is. I will handle the photography. Www.mmim.biz
Just clicked on the link and I get a message that I already took the survey, WTF!
In any event, the city wants 12 hour days. 9.5 wants a 9000 officer force. 9.5 told Mctool that “9000 is the magical number”. The 4 and 2 schedule won't work with 9000 officers, but a 12 hour schedule will.
F.O.P., I am opposed to 12 hour schedule and any type of give backs!
This time we need / have to stick together or he will do to us what he is doing to every other city union.
You can bet Racoon Eyes will gut any contract we have now and offer....NOTHING. He might even ask for give backs just to keep our jobs. He has demonized collective bargaining and unions. The media has been more than willing to carry his message to the public. Citizens probably think all city workers are lazy over paid spolied brats. Better buckle up boys and girls. This is going to be a wild ride.
Give us back the DOA removals. Why pay someone else $900 a body when you can just give the wagon guys sgt.'s pay for the day?
Well, I was going to fill it out but all three survey questions were exactly the same question. If this is any indication of our current regime, I might as well get ready to grab my ankles.
10/04/2011 01:45:00 AM
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The Union wants your top three issues, Use that coconut you call a brain asshat!
Saw Gmack being interviewed on Channel 11. The reporter had some hard hitting questions about lack of promotions, morale etc. Carol Marin. He is a good tap dancer but she seemed smarter than the average Chicago reporter. You go Carol, look at the numebers.
O/T I attendednthe G8 summit training. All I can say is we are fucked. also heard and interesting tidbit.
The unit thatmkeepsntabs off all sworn officers files. IE CR numbers, personal info, investigations... Is being disbanded. Rumor has it that the Andy Frain company will be given the contract. And who'd a thought...they are friends of none other that our beloved mayor rahm emanual. It seems that this is andy frains reward for donating 1 million dollars to the rahmsters election fund. This new mayor willl prove
to be a dictator. He has his sites on the governors office, then president. He will destroy everything in his path to get there.
Rahm will screw us royally next contract. And what will we do? Nothing. We will come on this blog and complain. we are so pathetic. FOP should be hounding rahm about federal money for raises just to keep us smewhat happy with the upcomong G8 BS. Makes me wannauke.
Duty availability will be replaced with a shift differential for officers that bid or assigned to 1st and 3rd watch . That's fair because senior officers can bid and officers assigned to 1st and 3rd watch will be compensated.
Supervisors 45 min. a day in free comp time and 45 min a day in cah paid quarterly will be gone .
Supervisors are paid time and a half for all overtime worked , no more free money . Chicago is broke.
Not to many blue shirts will cry over that loss.
residency.
That could have been better arranged. Three boxes with the same question seems like they pulled it out of their asses at the last minute.
Having said that, I just listed my top three priorities. Let's hope they listen to the membership. This next contract is going to be very important to us.
With G8/NATO coming up, they're asking us for a lot. We should be compensated accordingly.
To the poster saying g8 does"t qualiy. I personally know members of the ileas system who were actrivated for the summit in pittsburgh. This was also a preplanned event so you are off base on this one
took the survey give up NOTHING, keep the 55 and out with medical,the city saves money we win great deal for both! Sorry kids 1.5 years left then gone will be 55 and 25 years with free medical,if medical is gone this old dog will stay woof woof!
we will see this fastest contract completed in less that two months. Rham will hand the proposal to FOP. then right too the arbitrator, and news media. bet we will not be given ant concessions. EAT crow and enjoy it.. RHAM is the AXEMAN....
The tool-box who is in charge of the website, what else can be said??? Chicken shit won't work the street so he sits behind the desk
Anonymous said...
only things that matter are : money, medical benefits, preservation of current benefits, & retirement. all the ohter stuff is fluff and horseshit.
10/04/2011 12:36:00 AM
So true, even a 2.5% raise would be good at this point, with the failed Obama Economy, which WILL get even worse if he is re-elected.
Anonymous said...
only things that matter are : money, medical benefits, preservation of current benefits, & retirement. all the ohter stuff is fluff and horseshit.
10/04/2011 12:36:00 AM
So true, even a 2.5% raise would be good at this point, with the failed Obama Economy, which WILL get even worse if he is re-elected.
So if the summit is a preplanned event, all the assignments will have to be made on seniority.
Tried the link you provide and it said I already completed the survey. WTF!!!
Same thing happened to me. When did this survey come out that I took it already? WTF is right!
I have a great idea. FIGHT THIS TIME! None of this bargaining in good faith bullshit. If they push we shove back. And when the city/ Rahm do the typical no answer BS then we cause havok. ZERO Tollerance. Traffic stops gallore. Gridlock. And blame it all on Rahm. But we dont stick together so never mind!
I think no traffic stops, no tickets works better. Why make Joe Citizen pay? I only makes them hate us more.
If anyone is having trouble with the FOP survey web site, write down your responses and send them on paper to FOP. Pen and paper still work.
Give all of us a fucking break, FLOP, why don't you??? We all know, if its not your suggestion, it won't be used.
Well, there was once a great country & western tune that said the secret of life is:
Faster Horses, Younger Women, Older Whiskey and More Money.
Sounds like a reasonable contract demand to me.
OT heads Up...
Heard from a bird in Finance that the City is going after ALL Medical and Paid Sick days regardless of department come contract re-negotiation time.
Heard from a Sgt. at 35th that Medical Will be revamped regardless of what FoP wants. Into Paid Sick days Ratio of 1 per month (12 per year) and Required Doctors note for more than 3 Paid sick days in a row at a time.
so many great ideas?
I LOOK OVER THESE POST AND NOTICE QUITE A FEW OF U R SCHOLARS AND CONTRACT EXPERTS.
JUST SUBMIT VALID IDEAS AND PUT A LITTLE THOUGHT INTO IT.
I KNOW U R SO BUSY WATCHING BASEBALL AND WORKING AS A SECURITY GUARD FOR THE AIRPORT AND THE C.T.A.
BUT IT IS UR PENSION AND MEDICAL PLAN.
yea it will take about 10 minutes go figure.
What benefit do you think the FOP should obtain in the next contract? That's all they ask several times??? WTF! No thanks FOP. Bullsh@@ Survey
Here's my suggestion, no concessions, if Rahm threatens Lay-offs, call his bluff. After he folds it will give the FOP bargaining power it needs to hold it's ground.
Don't fuck this up Shields
it says i already took the survey. typical fop bullshit. i can promise i didnt take it. doesnt anything in the department or city work?
10/04/2011 03:49:00 AM
No nothing on this dept works and lately the way things are going neither do I!!!!
OT heads Up...
Heard from a bird in Finance that the City is going after ALL Medical and Paid Sick days regardless of department come contract re-negotiation time.
Heard from a Sgt. at 35th that Medical Will be revamped regardless of what FoP wants. Into Paid Sick days Ratio of 1 per month (12 per year) and Required Doctors note for more than 3 Paid sick days in a row at a time.
10/04/2011 03:28:00 PM
This would be an administrative nightmare.
But, last night on Chicago Tonight, McCrushOnCarolMarin seemed to be unconcerned with the medical and stated New York has unlimited medical. He commented it's all about how it's monitored, not how much time is available.
Tried the link you provide and it said I already completed the survey. WTF!!!
Go to the FOP website and try from there. Same thing happened to me but at FOP website it didn't
Somebody keeps making those damn Tyler Perry movies.
Here is the Link. It has been fixed. I think the reason it didnt work is because Scc took the survey then posted the link after he took it... the link he may have cut and pasted has a certain code in it after it is completed.... im not sure thats what happened but sounds like it.. here is the actual link.
http://survey.constantcontact.com/survey/a07e4ysrbowgt7ncj2x/a01jagtdiejvx/greeting
OT:
WRT:
$11M in savings seen by pooling city-county services..(in the recent news)
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Brilliant idea!
We should extend this to include the CPD and CFD.
I figure what we do is to implement a "just-in-time" police and fire department manpower pool the same way the corporations keep down inventory cost via "just-in-time " inventory.
GM, Ford ..all the big manufactures do it.
SO...that said we should first determine our manpower requirements for each day.
Then at a designated pre-determined meeting place, such as outside the Home Depot where all the illegal immigrant worker-pool population gathers for their day jobs -- we'll have the CFD and CPD gather to see if they work for the day or who they will work for!
Now how about THAT!
Should the C.B.U. predict that crime will be down for the day -- you're then free to lay some shingles for that day!!! So bring your gun and a hammer mi amigo!
I think we should start with a pilot program right away.
However let's use the aldermen since pooling them should be no great loss if we're wrong-- we know there are too many already.
Yeah...Just-In-Time politics.
Heard from a Sgt. at 35th that Medical Will be revamped regardless of what FoP wants. Into Paid Sick days Ratio of 1 per month (12 per year) and Required Doctors note for more than 3 Paid sick days in a row at a time.
1 per month doubt it. The normal flu takes a few days to recover this can be a safety issues if you got half alert officers going to work
The City has been told the Summit does not qualify as an ILEAS event because it is preplanned. Unlike the Obama election night party where no one positively knew he would win the election, the upcoming Summit is preplanned and does not qualify. We are SOL!
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well no-one knows positively that the summit will create social unrest. Stop being so negative by planning for it.
(( We're going to need every penny of that $54 million dollars in Federal aid to pay the lawyers from the lawsuits about to be unleashed ))
Pension should be 1== unless you want to be forcibly retired at 63 and then move over to Digby security for a job.
Take my raise, let me move. Please.
There are many cpd that plan on retiring prior to June 2013 because of the insurance. There is no way Rahmie will offer a "better" plan than the crap plan that we have now. In addition to knowing the new contract will suck, why both staying?
Recall the mass hiring over 2 years that began in June 1986? Theres a few thousand that can leave with 25-26-27 years, and they will. Why stay for 5 or 10 percent more, when Rahm is going to take it away through other means?
The city can count on losing another thousand police officers over the next year and a half.
Also tried the link and got the message that I've already taken the survey? While I'm not surprised that the FOP doesn't want the rank and file's opinion, WTF?!?!
Anonymous said...
took the survey give up NOTHING, keep the 55 and out with medical,the city saves money we win great deal for both! Sorry kids 1.5 years left then gone will be 55 and 25 years with free medical,if medical is gone this old dog will stay woof woof!
10/04/2011 11:22:00 AM
IT IS GONE after 2012..
1:01A.M.:Totally on the money. It is war and if you roll over once for this Fuck you will be steamrolled forever .Remember: No concessions on the membership's part. Remember:2012 a 1% raise . Remember to look at your recent(like yesterday) Tax installment.Your property value went down ,but your Taxes went up.Remember: Rahm wants the middle class to foot the bill for those who don't contribute to society and ladies and gentlemen that segment is growing in leaps and bounds in the City of Chicago.I would like discourse with anyone who disagrees.
Anonymous said...
OT heads Up...
Heard from a bird in Finance that the City is going after ALL Medical and Paid Sick days regardless of department come contract re-negotiation time.
Heard from a Sgt. at 35th that Medical Will be revamped regardless of what FoP wants. Into Paid Sick days Ratio of 1 per month (12 per year) and Required Doctors note for more than 3 Paid sick days in a row at a time.
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Not going to happen ! Everyone would use a sick day on Fourth of July and Christmas. The department would be fucked going to sick days.
Anonymous said...
Here's my suggestion, no concessions, if Rahm threatens Lay-offs, call his bluff. After he folds it will give the FOP bargaining power it needs to hold it's ground.
Don't fuck this up Shields
10/04/2011 04:27:00 PM
You can bet your uniform allowance that this is going right back in front of Arbitrator Benn in about 3 years. so the whole thing will be in preparing for the arbitration. There is no way we will get anything from 9.5 through negotiation.
Just sit back and hope the FOP puts a good team together to present the case to the arbitrator.
Heard from a Sgt. at 35th that Medical Will be revamped regardless of what FoP wants. Into Paid Sick days Ratio of 1 per month (12 per year) and Required Doctors note for more than 3 Paid sick days in a row at a time.
10/04/2011 03:28:00 PM
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City can try to go after medical, but since it is a negotiated contractual benefit they can't just arbitrarily change it. It has to be negotiated.
It's very simple, we have a New Contract in place by 14 May 2012 or good luck with your " Little Liberal G-Hate Summit".
Shields ain't gonna do sh*t..All hot air and bluster.
OT heads Up...
Heard from a bird in Finance that the City is going after ALL Medical and Paid Sick days regardless of department come contract re-negotiation time.
Heard from a Sgt. at 35th that Medical Will be revamped regardless of what FoP wants. Into Paid Sick days Ratio of 1 per month (12 per year) and Required Doctors note for more than 3 Paid sick days in a row at a time.
10/04/2011 03:28:00 PM
I heard from the Man in the Moon that all cheese will now be fat free. Apparently the city is really going after the fat because they'll need it for the winters's lard and cookin' 'n such.
Well, I was going to fill it out but all three survey questions were exactly the same question. If this is any indication of our current regime, I might as well get ready to grab my ankles.
10/04/2011 01:45:00 AM
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The Union wants your top three issues, Use that coconut you call a brain asshat!
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Funny that you think I'm that asshat, but you apparently have no problem with the FOP coming up with a "survey" that only has one question asked three times? This is the poorest excuse for a survey I have ever seen. They might as well have asked us what our favorite color is.
It would be a great bargaining chip to do away with the usual Judaic-Christian PAID HOLIDAYS and let us choose our own holidays instead.
Allow us to pick our Holidays when we pick our Furloughs.
Example: If you work the First Watch maybe you don't want Thanksgiving or Christmas Day off but it is the next day off you wanted.
Example: You do not want Pulaski Day off because your kids do no have the day off from school but they do have Martin Luther King Day off.
If your want Jewish Holidays, Muslim Holidays, Graduation Days, Spouse's Birthdays just fill in the form in November.
This could be a good thing to do instead of giving up something else.
To: Musical Memories In Motion said...
If Bill Cozzi is getting out soon, let us start planning the biggest benefit in CPD history. The venue will have to be huge! Does anyone know if anything is in the works yet?
Let me know when the party is. I will handle the photography. Www.mmim.biz
10/04/2011 06:50:00 AM>>>
Slow down there friend...
I will ask you a question...
Is this party for him, or for you (us)?
When Bill gets out he will have been damaged by the treachery of Jody Weis and I will also add Rahm Emanual and Garry McCarthy. I add the latter two because I know for a fact that McCarthy was asked, point blank, at Father Nangle's retirement party to go to Rahm and ask him to make a phone call to his former boss the President of the United States for a FULL PARDON for Bill. Not only for Bill himself and his family as Father Nangle talked about in his "Last Sermon", but also for the morale of the Department.
Does anyone have any doubt this was done?
McCarthy said, "I'll talk to him."
It has been weeks now and nothing has happened. So much for his word, "I'll talk to him."
So just slow down a minute, I love parties. But for Bill's sake maybe he needs a quiet reuniting with the family and friends. He will need to relearn ordinary things like driving and going to the store. Getting a job and getting life back in order.
I can tell McCarthy, Weiss and Rahm this also, that prohibition on association with convicted felons, I intend to completely ignore. Now if you wish to discipline me, or any other sworn member of this Department for violation of this rule I intend to sue Jody Weis and have him on the stand and seat him for the spineless (fill-in-blank) he is. The Constitutional Rights of Fredom of Association, Freedom of Speech and anything else we can throw at you to punitively cost you as much as we can. If we win anything it will go to Bill.
Stay safe, I will be one of the first to buy and to sell tickets, when it's right for Bill.
Fuck this city, fuck crook county and fuck this job!
Anonymous said...
There are many cpd that plan on retiring prior to June 2013 because of the insurance. There is no way Rahmie will offer a "better" plan than the crap plan that we have now. In addition to knowing the new contract will suck, why both staying?
Recall the mass hiring over 2 years that began in June 1986? Theres a few thousand that can leave with 25-26-27 years, and they will. Why stay for 5 or 10 percent more, when Rahm is going to take it away through other means?
The city can count on losing another thousand police officers over the next year and a half.
10/04/2011 07:38:00 PM
How many officers are afraid or hesitant to retire? I would assume if the housing market did not crash, then thousand officers would sell their house and leave. But the promise of free insurance cannot be ignored. If we loose 500 more to retirement I bet McCarthy would not blink an eye. After all, crime is decreasing 20% a month.
For the last twenty years Daley and the city refused to bargain in good faith and contracts regularly expired and we went two-two and a half years without a contract. The decision was then passed on to an arbitrator who gave us a minimal raise.
NOW Emmanuel wants a contract signed ASAP.
SCREW THEM. Now it's time to turn the tables. Agree to nothing. Let negotiations drag on past the expiration of the current contract. Let decision go to arbitrator.
Sound familiar Emmanuel. Daley and the city has stuck it to us for years. Things are different now.
We have nothing to lose. We will get NOTHING in this economy. Two, three years from now Obama gone, economy better. Better deal. Period.
So if the summit is a preplanned event, all the assignments will have to be made on seniority.
10/04/2011 11:50:00 AM
That rumour is TRU. All current CPD officers born on or before May 15, 1949 will not have to participate in the NATO G8 Summit Detail.
Notice to malingerers: when the summit arrives and you're still on the medical recovering from cankle surgery, you'll be wheeled out to the front line. The City is counting on you.
Anonymous said...
It's very simple, we have a New Contract in place by 14 May 2012 or good luck with your " Little Liberal G-Hate Summit".
10/04/2011 09:51:00 PM
Never happen. The current contract won't expire until June 30, 2012. We will never have a new contract a month before the old one expires. Never in the history of FOP & City contracts did we have one in place prior to expiration.
Look for an arbitration award somewhere around July 2015. That is probably very close to reality.No doubt some really onerous provisions will simply be put into place, resulting in unfair labor actions and lawsuits and ever worse morale, if that is possible.
Anonymous Use Your Head said...
I have a great idea. FIGHT THIS TIME! None of this bargaining in good faith bullshit. If they push we shove back. And when the city/ Rahm do the typical no answer BS then we cause havok. ZERO Tollerance. Traffic stops gallore. Gridlock. And blame it all on Rahm. But we dont stick together so never mind!
I think no traffic stops, no tickets works better. Why make Joe Citizen pay? I only makes them hate us more.
10/04/2011 12:43:00 PM
Why make Joe Citizen pay? I haven't written a parking ticket or a moving violation in ages. More like 6 years. In my last review my Sgt. mentioned that I have zeros for activity and rated me something like below average. Or whatever, I couldn't remember. I don't give a shit. Besides, if push comes to shove, I want it in writing. I answer my calls for service and always back up my fellow officers. We need to stick together.
It would be a great bargaining chip to do away with the usual Judaic-Christian PAID HOLIDAYS and let us choose our own holidays instead.
Allow us to pick our Holidays when we pick our Furloughs.
Example: If you work the First Watch maybe you don't want Thanksgiving or Christmas Day off but it is the next day off you wanted.
Example: You do not want Pulaski Day off because your kids do no have the day off from school but they do have Martin Luther King Day off.
If your want Jewish Holidays, Muslim Holidays, Graduation Days, Spouse's Birthdays just fill in the form in November.
This could be a good thing to do instead of giving up something else.
10/05/2011 12:02:00 AM
Um, unless you're a lifelong Mon-Fri housemouse, this doesn't matter. Most of us are in day off groups.
No one's "GETTING THE DAY OFF". It's just another day on the calendar, but it's designated as a holiday, and, unless you have a ton of seniority, you're not getting DOH, anyway.
So, use those OT hours you picked up for the 'designated holiday' and take whatever day off you please, even if it's I LOVE MARSHMALLOWS day. Go for it.
As for contract negotiations, how swapping New Year's Day for the first day of Ramadan is of benefit to the City, I don't know. And, unless it benefits the City, I guarantee you, they are interested.
"...As for contract negotiations, how swapping New Year's Day for the first day of Ramadan is of benefit to the City, I don't know. And, unless it benefits the City, I guarantee you, they are interested.
10/05/2011 01:37:00 PM"
If you want the First Day of Ramadan, fine, or Yom Kippur, or
Cinque Da Mayo or Bud Biliken then fine. How about the day after Thanksgiving or Christmas.
How about those Teacher's Institute Days so may parochial schools have.
The city might go for it, it would mean more free time for us, less paid overtime for them.
I think they should compress the step raises and max out after 10 years. I would like to see what type of rates we could get with a FOP group insurance plan. I think any raise would be nice but I would like to see 4% per year. The medical should stay the same with more forceful action if abused. They know who is abusing it today....do something about it. Write your state and federal legislators about the ramifications of altering pensions.
Heard from a Sgt. at 35th that Medical Will be revamped regardless of what FoP wants. Into Paid Sick days Ratio of 1 per month (12 per year) and Required Doctors note for more than 3 Paid sick days in a row at a time.
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This was supposed to put us in line with the private sector. Highly doubt the private sector needs a doctors note after 3 days. Sick of this bullshit and being treated like an asshole by this dept.
"Recall the mass hiring over 2 years that began in June 1986? Theres a few thousand that can leave with 25-26-27 years, and they will. Why stay for 5 or 10 percent more, when Rahm is going to take it away through other means? "
True, and I'm one of them. When it's time, it's time, regardless of contracts or taxes. Pensions are useless unless they are used.
He is coming after, P-Days, BFD Days, medical, Clothing allowance and will try to get a pay decrease, is going to raise Insurance premium. Everyone hated Daley, But this guy is full of Vengence, hates unionized workers too. Will cause so much turmoil during negotiations that the union will be fighting amongst themselves. Sure glad I am going soon.
First off, we should tell the mayor we demand the right to strike. What a shot across the bow this would be and show him that we mean business.
Second is residency. If he takes this down, link it to increased pension and medical contributions
Third, no givebacks in any of the medical benefits
The FOP has the opportunity to become the leader for labor accross the entire state if only we can stand up to Rham. Lets not blow the opportunity
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