FOID Info Safe
An Illinois judge has ruled that the state police cannot release the names of the state's 1.3 million firearm owner identification cardholders, another victory for gun-rights advocates who had been trying on several fronts to block release of the names.
The Illinois legislature earlier this year voted to bar the public from knowing who has FOID cards. But Richard Pearson, executive director of the Illinois State Rifle Association, said the judge's ruling this week is significant because a future legislature could reverse course on the issue.
“This is better,” he said.
Remember, it was Lisa Madigan's [Dem - Daddy] office that unilaterally decided FOID data was "open records" and potentially jeopardized the safety of thousands of law abiding gun owners, as well as providing a road map to police officer's homes and endangering the lives of their loved ones.
Of course, if there was no FOID card (which is unique among the 50 states for some reason) there would be no issue at all.
Of course, if there was no FOID card (which is unique among the 50 states for some reason) there would be no issue at all.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
48 Comments:
My FOID was written in Philadelphia, sometime in the late 18th Century.
I do not abide by that asinine law, I am prepared to accept the consequences for my civil disobedience should a situation present itself where I have no choice but to make my gun ownership known.
The lives of my family, my ability to render aid to a neighbor or community member in distress trumps whatever political Illinois bullshit a bunch of ideologue assholes dream up to infringe my gun rights.
Sincerely:
A guy from Texas, temporarily living in this godforsaken leftist crime ridden hellhole.
Lisa Madigan should be invetigating her corrupt father. He is by far the biggest thief ever in Illinois history. He could share a cell with Rod and Bubba.
I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven. Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
The citizens who are sane and obey the law should be able to defend themselves against the bottom feeders who prey upon them.
Good news, chuck murphy, the gangbanger attorney and total jagoff got convicted for running a mortgage scam. He was a regular at 26th, and a total prick. Good riddance!
Is there any chance that Governor Mike Madigan may get INDICTED???
The Gannon Affair is heating up!
Just think how poetic it would be if Mike Madigan ended up at the same Fed joint that he put Blago in...
Isn't the FOID card an infringement upon my 2nd Amendment Rights?
There was a time when coppers were grandfathered in relation to the FOID card on the CPD.
How about that ISRA??? NRA???
Of course, if there was no FOID card
FOID or Second Amendment?
I'll take the Second Amendment every day of the week and twice on Sundays. The pinheads can keep the card, I'll keep my guns.
Of course, I live in a FREE state run by Republican crooks, not Democrat crooks.
So a couple of random thoughts, guess Madigan's are anti- LE for starting the mess and at this point thank God the Coppers had to have one or the FOID info would have been public with out so much as a wimper
I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven. Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
The citizens who are sane and obey the law should be able to defend themselves against the bottom feeders who prey upon them.
12/09/2011 12:44:00 AM
You are an idiot! The FOID does absolutely nothing to keep firearms out of the hands of criminals. As far as I am aware, criminals do not apply for FOID's yet they have their ways of obtaining guns.
Yeah, and that gun registration has worked wonders here in Chicago hasn't it?
I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven.
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Lesson starts here, because you have no right to drive a car but you have a right to own a firearm. It is a right granted by the US constitution, drivng a car is not a right, it is a privelige.
Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
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Owning a firearm is a right, carrying one in public is a privilege.
Illinois is the only state that requires a FOID and its the only state in the US to not allow it's citizens some form of concealed carry.
The FOID scheme has not prevented the unlawful possession and use of firearms by teenagers, gangbangers, drive-byers, armed robbers, and murderers. Our state lawmakers are too timid to even discuss its usefulness, let alone its elimination.
The state of MA also has a FOID card of sorts.
License to drive/car registration vs license to own guns/gun registration: The right to drive is not enumerated in the US Constitution. Who let Pfleger in to make comments?
"No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car"
Dear liberal robot, please read the constitution and tell me what is says about a fundamental right to automobile ownership and operation.....
during your search, you might stumble upon the 2nd ammendment....
Illinois is run by a bunch of stupid, Liberal Assholes who don't have a clue about reality! i.e. Madigans, Quinns, Rahms!
What really is NEEDED is a "Carry and Conceal Law" and a Castle law in Illinois!
49 Other states can't be wrong!
Da Pelon
I remember there was an Irish attorney who sued the CPD all the time for the gangbangers. His law partner and hunting buddy was Corporation Counel who just paid those cases off without trial.
I have a FOID and do not own a gun. So, she is inviting criminals to visit my house to look for a gun I don't own.
Idiot, I'm glad someone voted it down.
What differance does it make who's idea it was to make this info. public. The fools of Shitcago and Il. will just keep voting these moron into office.
for 12:44am, driving is a priviledge,gun ownership is a right.
How about the criminals carry a card that says (Bad Guy) and make them renew it every 3 months and take a drug test etc. or jail, maybe then some bad guys would leave the state.
And Durbin should carry a card that says Crook...
No cards for the Honest People.
Chuck Murphy, no shit! Yes, piece of shit high priced gangsta lawyer. Bu bye...
Thank you I.S.R.A... Join if you are not a member.
All the info in a FOID card has to be verified again when you buy a firearm,,,,,,FOID is a relic and is just there because the lefties that run this state just want to fuck with us who own guns.
Why does CPD require us to have one? Cops are exempt from the FOID provisions.
As long as Obama is in the White House none of our corrupt dickhead Democrats in Illinois will go down. The only reason Blago went down is because everyone on both sides of the fence hated this cunning little prick.
FOID Card = Violation of 2nd amendment Rights. Just another form of Gun Control and way for Felon-ois Politicians to get free money to use against Law Abiding Taxpayers, and to give Entitlements to Deadbeats and thus buy their Votes
I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven. Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
The citizens who are sane and obey the law should be able to defend themselves against the bottom feeders who prey upon them.
12/09/2011 12:44:00 AM
you're bi-polar, i see.
Just think how poetic it would be if Mike Madigan ended up at the same Fed joint that he put Blago in...
12/09/2011 12:52:00 AM
bad boys, bad boys.....
SCC:"Of course, if there was no FOID card (which is unique among the 50 states for some reason) there would be no issue at all."
(430 ILCS 65/16) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑16)
Sec. 16. When 2% of the number of registered voters in the State desire to pass upon the question of whether the General Assembly should repeal this Act regulating the acquisition, possession and transfer of firearms and firearm ammunition, they shall, at least 78 days before a regular election to be held throughout the State, file in the office of the State Board of Elections, a petition directed to the Board in accordance with the general election law. The petition shall be composed of county petitions from each of the counties throughout the State and each county petition shall contain the signatures of at least 2% of the number of registered voters in the county. The petition shall request that the question "Should the General Assembly repeal the Act entitled 'An Act relating to the acquisition, possession and transfer of firearms and firearm ammunition, to provide a penalty for the violation thereof and to make an appropriation in connection therewith,' approved August 3, 1967, as amended?" be submitted to the voters of the State at the next ensuing State‑wide election at which such question may be acted upon.
(Source: P.A. 81‑1489.)
(430 ILCS 65/16.1) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑16.1)
Sec. 16.1. A petition for the submission of the proposition shall be in substantially the following form:
To the State Board of Elections
The undersigned, residents and registered voters of the State of Illinois, respectfully petition that you cause to be submitted, in the manner provided by the general election law to the voters of the State of Illinois, at the next State‑wide election, the proposition "Should the General Assembly repeal an Act entitled 'An Act relating to the acquisition, possession and transfer of firearms and firearm ammunition, to provide a penalty for the violation thereof and to make an appropriation in connection therewith', approved August 3, 1967, as amended?"
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Such petition shall conform to the requirements of the general election law. The Board shall certify the question to the proper election officials who shall submit the question at an election in accordance with the general election law. Upon request of any citizen for a reproduced copy of the petition and paying or tendering to the State Board of Elections the costs of making the copy, the Board shall immediately make, or cause to be made a reproduced copy of such petition. The Board shall also deliver to such person his official certification that such copy is a true copy of the original, stating the day when such original was filed in its office.
(Source: P.A. 81‑1489.)
(430 ILCS 65/16‑3) (from Ch. 38, par. 83‑16.3)
Sec. 16‑3. The Secretary of State shall cause the question to be plainly printed upon separate ballots as follows:
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Should the General Assembly repeal the Act
entitled "An Act relating to the acquisition, YES
possession and transfer of firearms and
firearm ammunition, to provide a penalty ‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑‑
for the violation thereof and to make an
appropriation in connection therewith", NO
approved August 3, 1967, as amended?
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(Source: P.A. 77‑1819.)
http://www.ilga.gov/legislation/ilcs/ilcs3.asp?ActID=1657&ChapterID=39
Anonymous said...
I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven. Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
The citizens who are sane and obey the law should be able to defend themselves against the bottom feeders who prey upon them.
12/09/2011 12:44:00 AM
Owning and carrying a gun is a RIGHT.Driving a car is a privelage.
You do not need a permit or license for a gun,its illegal.
"Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?"
Why not require jews and muslims to register to practice their faith too??We could charge them a $100 ayear per person to pray,speek and assemble in a place of worship!!
Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
12/09/2011 12:44:00 AM
Why not require illinois Catholics and Jews who want to own and carry a Cross/Crusafix or Star of David to have an ID card.Have to have that card with them at all time or be subject to arrest and fine.
You should be required to have a ID card for $50 are year to own and carry a bible,koran or torah.
Drivers licenses, pilots licences and even cat licenses extort money from citizens to write laws to restrict their freedoms and fill their pockets and the pockets of their corporate masters.
You rights, or restrictions thereof should be regulated by the birth certificates of your parents and for verification by DNA.
Parasites rights inspected or removed LLC.
No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car
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This is the lamest argument ever, no matter what incarnation it takes on any topic, but common in the gun debate.
"Well, if we can do (A) to (Y), then why not do (A) to (Z)!"
It precludes critical thinking from the outset.
It's amazing how many common social narratives we now answer to that exist solely to prevent very large groups of very dumb people from actually 'thinking' about an issue.
Anyway, off to the department of Motor Vehicles to buy lettuce. After all... If they can sell licenses, why not lettuce!!!!
It is absolutely sad that EVERY elected official is supposed to swear to uphold the US Constitution. It is clearly evident that many do not understand the Constitution and in some cases, have probably never read it.
That is the only excuse they have by not recognizing an individual's Second Amendment rights.
What kind of lawyer is the Attorney General? She should know the Constitution and how Illinois has infringed upon it.
She is too busy chasing consumer affairs issues like baby cribs.
Anonymous said...
I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven. Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
The citizens who are sane and obey the law should be able to defend themselves against the bottom feeders who prey upon them.
12/09/2011 12:44:00 AM
***********************************I don't know whether you are a P.O. or not, but that is not important. What is important is that you learn to recognize truths that may be less than obvious at first glance. Registration of firearms has absolutely no effect on anything. It is not a help in any kind of criminatl investigation. Think carefully, the fact that a firearm is registered and is used in a crime with the offender fleeing the scene gives no assistance to law enforcement whatsoever. It is not the same thing as a vehicle in a hit and run accident in which a witness or the victim is able to see the vehicle's license number. The serial number on a firerm is obviously too small to see. The only purpose of registraton is for government at any level to have knowlledge of who owns firearms and where they are. This is cllearly intrusive, and unnecessary. The FOID law has much the same effec, but on the individual. Again, stop and think, it is none of the business of government to have information on what it's citizens own, othe than possibly for legitimate tax purposes.
Soorry to be so long winded, but this is important stuff.
"I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven. Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?"
You apparently fail to remember that historically, the first thing that totalitarian police states do is require gun registration. Gun control features prominently in the police state designs of totalitarian states with which any student of history is familiar. Take for instance:
Federalization of the police force with a vast network of surveillance and informants to spy on citizens.
National identification cards for all citizens.
Civilian disarmament via gun registration, licensing, followed by banning and confiscation of firearms.
Once this mechanism of oppression is firmly in place, persecution and elimination of political opponents follows, and every social, political and economic policy the Total State desires can be implemented. This has happened in National Socialist states such as Nazi Germany, Fascist states such as Italy under Mussolini, and Communist powers such as the former Soviet Union (and its satellites behind the Iron Curtain) and Red China. An armed populace are citizens. An unarmed populace are merely slaves.
Live Free or Die...
Good Try Lisa. Sorry This Did Not Play Out For You. Here's A Idea, How About Making Some Of Your Father's and His Associates Dealings A Matter Of Public Record. Better Yet How About Convening A Grand Jury To Investigate The Legality Of Some Of Those Transactions. That Should Kept You Busy For A While.
PS: You Make Your Daddy Proud.
Your Doing Such A Great Job
As Attorney General, You Should
Be Governor Some Day.
PPS: We All Love You Lisa,
Keep Up The Good Work.
She is too busy chasing consumer affairs issues like baby cribs.
More votes for when daddy says she can be governor
I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven. Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
The citizens who are sane and obey the law should be able to defend themselves against the bottom feeders who prey upon them.
12/09/2011 12:44:00 AM
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WHy have a FOID card requirement at all? Gun owners in 49 other states can own a gun without the bureaucratic "red tape"..Fuck Illinois!
A foid card is a form of registration...registration is the first step in confiscation. Remember that
How come Ms Madigan doesn't look into the fact that Drew Peterson has been held in solitary confinement for over 2 years without being convicted of anything. He was a gun owner wasn't he?
FOID IS EXTORTION!
Next First amendment cards?
CAN I UPGRADE TO A SEMI-COLON ?
I agree with Illinois having an FOID card for resident gun owners. I also support concealed carry and believe weapons should be registered. No one bitches about needing a license to drive a car (well the law abiding God fearing members of society that is) and that car has to be registered to be driven. Why not require IL residents posess a valid FOID card in order to exercise their right to own and carry a registered concealed weapon?
The citizens who are sane and obey the law should be able to defend themselves against the bottom feeders who prey upon them.---------------------------------------------------------
You are an idiot. Card fine. Public knowledge no. My neighbor doesn't need to know I own a gun. Half the crminals in this country could obtain a gun with in 20 min if they wanted. We jump through hoops. What is the benifit of public knownig FOID owners?
Why does CPD require us to have one? Cops are exempt from the FOID provisions.
12/09/2011 10:31:00 AM
True,State law exempts peace officers from having a FOID for Duty weapons and Duty ammo.But most depts make this a General Order and one more thing to burn you on.
Illinois may be the only state to require a valid FOID but it is not the only state to require some type of permit or license to own or carry a firearm. This from the NRA's own website.
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