Safety First? Not Really
Unfortunately, the push for safety (and security) fell through the cracks during J-Fled's tenuous tenure. Now the FOP is reduced to filing safety grievances in the hopes of shaming the City into doing something that should have been covered years ago:
- The Fraternal Order of Police has reportedly filed a safety complaint in Chicago.
The police union is especially concerned about safety at the Harrison District.
"There is more security at a Chicken Shack at this neighborhood than at a police desk," said Pat Camden of the Fraternal Order of Police.
What Camden is talking about is the front desk inside Area 4 Police Headquarters. Located in the high-crime Harrison District, the station has had four security breaches in the last six months.
On June 7, a man entered the station, threw computers on the floor and assaulted at least one officer. On Aug. 11, a man walked in with an unloaded assault rifle. On Sept. 10th, a man jumped onto the station's front desk screaming and waving his fists. And finally, on Nov. 24th, a man walked into the station carrying a fully-loaded assault rifle.
While somewhat "minor" in the fact that no one got killed during any of these breaches, the problems faced by Area 4 are not unique. In fact, each of the Area HQ buildings feature an easy to leap over, unsecured, wide open desk and lobby area. 025, 019, 005 and 002, along with 011 have the same security issues. At least with the new stations, you have to run around a 4 foot high desk area to get at the desk personnel. We're pretty sure it's just pressed particle board, so it provides minimal protection in the event of an attack, but some shielding is better than none in the cases of the Areas.
We're also pretty sure that exactly nothing will be done until someone gets seriously hurt, or god forbid, killed.
We're also pretty sure that exactly nothing will be done until someone gets seriously hurt, or god forbid, killed.
Labels: safety issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
105 Comments:
I think you mean 003 not 005. 005 installed a higher desk area 2 years ago. 004 is also wide open as well.
Certain South and West side station houses have always been hardly much more than supply outposts in the middle of Indian country.
Leaving them wide open is inviting tragedy.
There are places where having a more open station makes sense. There are some places where heavy station security just isn't needed. Like, small cities and towns in downstate.
In a perfect world, they'd all be that way, but 004 is about as far from a 'perfect world' as you can get and it's just fucking stupid to leave the stations in those kinds of places unsecured.
Secure the stations, get rid of the pissbums.
'Karate Man' was the best security the lobby in 011 ever had!
Unfortunately, the push for safety (and security) fell through the cracks during J-Fled's tenuous tenure.
Because it cost MONEY!
Jfled wanted to change stations' lobbys into what the suburbs have, but shortshanks told him no, it costs too much.
It started after out 16yo ride-along, they even had a "unit" to test station security, which lasted about 6 months.
I shit you not I walked in the front door of 011 and there is a shitbird passed out just to the right of the front doors and won't you know it he done pissed himself. Funny in away but really this a police station not a drunk tank. Man he sure did drink a lot.
Be safe and Merry Christmas to all.
If you try to get into McGruff's office or the mayors 5th floor office it would be difficult. The city doesn't give a ratz ass about the safety of low class police officers.
Hey SCC, it's the 70th Anniversary of the Attack on Pearl Harbor, how about a story on it?
Please take a moment in your busy lives to reflect on our veterans.
I wouldn't throw the blame 100% J-Fed, he inherited the poor station designs. This problem goes way back and can be blamed upon any sitting Supt. that presided over the "christening" of said stations.
Fat Phil and Terry are more than beholden for this mess.
How many stations did J-Fed open?
How many stations did Garry open?
The stations are a disaster but lets blame the culprit(s) of the design disasters.
But the stations will be REALLY SAFE once they have a civilian desk aide and a booking officer, hell, there might be as many as 2 armed people in the building! But we don't need any house mice working inside.
There MAY be more armed personnel in the building, but will they be able to get from the processing room to the gun lockers in time?
A Rogers Park man who was previously convicted of murder is accused of fatally stabbing a female acquaintance inside of his apartment.
Let me repeat that:
who was PREVIOUSLY CONVICTED OF MURDER is accused of fatally stabbing a female...
Smith has an extensive criminal history dating back to the mid-1980s, according to court records.
_http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local
/breaking/chi-far-north-side-man-charged-with-fatally-stabbing-woman-20111206,0,2192585.story
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But our wise, liberal politicians get rid of Illinois' death sentence! I guess they were afraid that they would have to face the music themselves some day.
OT:
Does anyone know what the Automate Information Reporting System is? I received the email this evening about needing to complete the training, but I haven't had a chance to check into it. I had heard rumors of a statewide reporting system, is this what this is, or is this just a better version of AIRA? Thanks
Why does IPRA have what we should have at stations? One small little window with locked doors everywhere.
BTW they are moving after the new year to the old goldblatts building at Ashland and Chicago.
This is a preemptive strike for the new plan to staff the desk with one PO and civ aids.
Go to half the suburbs and the police are behind bullet-proof glass, you have to be buzzed in through doors, etc. CPD is a joke.
Remember,CPD is not about professionalism.
'Karate Man' was the best security the lobby in 011 ever had!
12/07/2011 01:12:00 AM
Until Tricky took him to da crib.
Fillmore,renamed Outpost Zulu... LIFM
That is why i always think that Body Armor should be Mandatory for everyone's safety! http://policebodyarmor.blogspot.com/2011/12/should-standard-be-voluntary-or.html
It is more important to have so-called pieces of art at police stations than it is to have station security.
At one time each building built with federal funds had to have art work worth 10% of the buildings cost. Result, the giant bat in front of the Social Security building downtown.
In the suburbs, you ask your questions on a phone in the public lobbby, there is no open access to the police desk.
This is 98% Dick Daleys fault! Just like after 9/11, every city airport in the nation had their officers with rifles in the airports. Not us, we started out too, until Dick saw it and had a shit fit and ordered us to put them away------ this is not a war zone! He did everything he could to make the police look less intimidating even if it was at the cost of officers safety. Notice I didn't put the blame on one or the other Dick Daley! let's look at the pussification of our department, powder blue shirts, powder blue and white squad cars, the station security,removing shot guns from squads, taken away mag lights, not allowing car chases and etc. just my opinion, feel free to add or bash my opinion
Uh, the desk crew does carry guns, right?
Hey didnt karate Dan wind up in Trulhar's back yard??
Every CPD district station is unsecure.
He suggested fencing across line of front desk there. Fence? With holes bullets can go through? How about guards/bullet-proof glass? I've been to Harrison dropping off goodies on Christmas for Officers who had to work holiday. I was shocked as I stood in line at the creeps coming in there. It was scary.
What they put Officers through here in Chicago is a crime. There should be laws in our nation that protect cops from corrupt games like Rahm's been playing w. CPD lives since day he took office. Pre-election day he promised citizens THOUSANDS more police. I didn't vote for him because he has weasely eyes/he kept lowering that number as election drew near and he realized he already had the vote.
Sure enough, my downtown neighborhood is plagued w. drug dealers hanging out at corners, crack whores begging for rides to Stony Island, meth addicts acting insane, strutting gang bangers, drug overdose death at the Dominicks, flash mob attacks...and I live a short 8 blocks from City Hall. Our city's fast become one stinking piece of anatomy thanks to lying Rahm and McSellout.
SCC: How about a info thread on Densey's wife whom passed suddenly. Learned from Shaved's blog. Prayers and God bless the boys and girls in Blue.
Even small towns have the public locked out. Most places you have to be buzzed in and wait for a police officer to come to you. Or you talk to a dispatcher/civilian through bulletproof glass. No station outside of Chicago in Illinois allows the homeless to live there.
OT:
On Monday, a dept. Of revenue hack was writing Parkers on the west end of 022. Then she hit the mother load, all the cars had no city stickers....so lo and behold..she began writing numerous cars tickets. The block she was on was the 10200 block of south Turner....which is in evergreen park..........doh!.......priceless!
Police Stations reflect the era of their construction. Consider that the 002 Dist. has slit windows because there was a fear of sniper fire from the projects. And the concept of not isolating the desk personnel from the public was always a factor. If you check out the Oak Park P.D., you will see that their station is designed for the siege mentality of the time when it was built. There was fear that Chicagoans were going to invade Oak Park, so the desk area is designed like a currency exchange, protected like a ghetto hot dog stand.
Lets face it. The city does not ask or care what the department wants, they just go ahead and build anything they want.
I was on a committee that was supost to make suggestions on a new station. They never showed up for the meeting and the building went forward with tons of flaws and cost overruns. In addition, the city paid more for the fixes they had to make.
The political appointees in city hall don't give a shit about us or the taxpayers.
The FOP should also consider filing a complaint with OSHA over safety. OSHA has fimed companies millions for not protecting its employees from known hazards. In a recent California case, a security guard and a nurse wer stabbed by intruders.OSHA found that the employer failed to secure the facility. It is something to consider. I really do not think the city will do anything on their own to secure the stations and the public is not on our side.
I'm not a cop, but the description of these stations reminds me of the scene in the original "Terminator" movie, when Arnold's character drove through the front door, then destroyed the station while searching for Sarah Connor & Kyle Reese.
That one had no security, either, just a wide open, low desk in the front.
Call Karate Dan out of retirement! Rumor has it he's still living in an 011th District Sgt's southside basement.
Watch the desk shoot out video from detroit, it's scary. Every chicago desk should have a rifle trained officer with the rifle on him or near by at all times. The bad guy still will have the element of suprise, but this may equal the score a bit. Think self preservation.
As long as tax payers pay money for protection for politicians and their families there will never be Conceal and Carry or the Death penalty. The "connected" in this state have the clout and/or money to get the protection they need. The rest of us are on our own. They could fucking care less about the people who have to get around and live in this shit hole.
Keep wasting our our membership dues on bullshit. It is smoke and mirrors by the fop. Only one that wins are the lawyers. Waste of courts time as well
Some of this could be prevented if at least someone on the desk would stop facebooking or shopping or playing games on the computer. People that work the desk usually aren't the hard chargers from the watch. They are either people that are too scared to work the street or are older and could care less about anything.
'Karate Man' was the best security the lobby in 011 ever had!
12/07/2011 01:12:00 AM
Please indulge us with this story! I just had an argument with my wife and I could use a laugh...either that or I'll have to hunt down some friends from 011 but this will faster. TELL US THE STORY PLEASEEEEE!
http://tinyurl.com/6s927uu
FDNY used water cannon to save police from rioters
Uhh, Camden, the last time I checked, a Chicken Shack didn't have over 200 Sworn, Armed Police Officers working inside it. Make your point, but not by using pointless examples.
The supt. Said he's the Police so why doesnt he ride on jobs like Phil Cline did every Friday night??
Well I guess we now know why.. He's a fuckin juicebag!! He's more concerned with scoring with some chicks at the tavern than helping out the troops he is supposed to be leading.
How would he know if we are short manpower, he has never participated in any field operations since he has been here.
I have no respect for this man or his Comstat bullshit.
If you spout at the mouth about being the police, then back it up....Moron
atlanta. you have a empty lobby with a phone in it. you call, state your business and they choose to buzz you in.
maybe the answer is to have 2 or 3 armed security at the desk in case....oh wait, that's the way it is now. and that's somehow more unsafe then it is for the coppers on the street? im sorry, i have to believe there are bigger issues for us to be focusing the mighty power of the FOP on. nut walks into a police station with a gun, nut walks down the street with a gun. either way, guess who has to deal with it. id love a more secure station. but its pretty far down on my wish list of things that we really, really need now!
I shit you not I walked in the front door of 011 and there is a shitbird passed out just to the right of the front doors and won't you know it he done pissed himself. Funny in away but really this a police station not a drunk tank. Man he sure did drink a lot.
Be safe and Merry Christmas to all.
12/07/2011 01:37:00 AM
Don't be dissin' the midnights desk crew like that!
OT: To the ISP Officer who pulled over my daughter on the Dan Ryan Expressway at 8:43 a.m. for going 60 in a 55 speed zone and following too close, thanks for giving her the warning ticket. I know that she informed you that I am a police officer with CPD and you told her you didn't care, and also told her that she is too old to tell you that her parent is a police officer (Really? How old is too old?) She is a 26 year old special education teacher on her way to work at 85th and State trying to be polite and you treat her like garbage and tell her you don't care? Thanks, but I know not all of the ISP Officers feel that way and treat fellow officers and their family members with courtesy and respect, as I would have had I pulled over one of your family members. I have always told my kids to treat officers with respect and be polite if they get stopped and out of respect, notify them that you have family members that are Police officers, (i.e., 2 great grandfathers, 2 grandfathers, 4 or 5 uncles, 1 parent). If she had waited until after the ticket was written he would have said "Why didn't you tell me before I wrote the ticket? I wouldn't have written it" Well, anyway I appreciate that you pulled her over because we know how important safety is and it's not just a revenue generator and nobody ever speeds on the Dan Ryan, but really? 60 in a 55? WoW! I wish I could drive 60 at 8:43 am on the Dan Ryan during Rush Hour. Sorry to Rant. Hope everyone has a Happy and Safe Holiday Season (including the ISP officer)
Old Retired Guy Here;
Truth is; You have to protect yourself. The City will not protect You Criminally, Civilly nor Physically. You are one bad decision away from being charged with a crime, civilly sued, or physically injured or killed.
Than Being Said; I would go back to the job, in a minute, if I could.
I had the best time of my life being a Chicago Police Officer.
Bless You All !!
This is way off topic but an interesting read on Obama's deployment of chicago style politics for our nation:
http://www.forbes.com/sites/joelkotkin/2011/12/06/illinois-state-of-embarrassment/
Blago got 3 sentences, total 11yrs & 9 months mandatory on a 14 yr sentence!
Breakin news not concerning Blago:http://www.philly.com/philly/news/breaking/20111207_D_A__wont_seek_death_penalty_for_Mumia_Abu-Jamal.html?cmpid=124488429
no death penalty for mumia
Yes "Karate Dan" was the best security the 011th Dist desk had! Rest in peace Dan! signed old 011th Dist wagonman
What were the results of the Secret Service evaluation of our station security?
'Karate Man' was the best security the lobby in 011 ever had!
12/07/2011 01:12:00 AM
That's "Karate Dan", I wonder whatever happened to him?
Blago gets 14 years. Yes he is a scumbag, but twice the sentence Ryan got? Ryan, whose thievery led to the six children from Mt Greenwood getting burned to death in mini van due to the licenses for bribes scandal gets only seven years? Jackson still has not been charged, Rahm merely had to testify, Obama did not. You would think with all these people to protect the sentence would have been minimal, but I guess his credibility is shot so they have nothing to fear now. Nothing to see here, move along.
Ot The bleeding heart bakery (yes that's the real name) in Oak park was robbed the other day and the clerk was locked in the basement. The owner said it may close down for good. Hows that anti gun stance working out for you guys out there. Im sure the robbery did little to change their bleeding heart liberal philosophy. Maybe you could have offered him a cookie and talked about Obama to dissuade him from his criminal lifestyle. Fyi offender was a male black in case anyone sees him.
The gun lockers in 011 have been broken for over 25 years (that I know of...)
There is too much "I don't give a damn" going on around here.
Drown management with paper. By placing the city on notice over safety issues, civil damages will be greater for those that will need it.
Anyone see the news about the 80 year old priest that was beaten badly by two entitled ones while robbing a church? WTF
Densey Cole's wife is dead? Shaved has it on his blog.
For a you freakin J-Flub fans commenting here:
Wasn't it himself that stated " there is no amount of physical security that can dissuade this kind of person" just after incident with Thor Sodeberg (RIP)?
THERE WAS SOMETHING HE COULD AND SHOULD HAVE DONE. HE CHOSE TO IGNORE THE PROBLEM!!!!
Could you of I go to the FBI building and get into their parking structure or lobby? NO!!! So eat that J-Fans
How many of these incidents could have been avoided by securing OUR workplaces ? There is no common sense anywhere these facilities or policies are being developed.
You know what barricade the doors and put up a phone number or intercom. At least youll have some station security.
/rant off
We call the design of the new stations like 10,15,16,and 20 "Alamo Modern". They were designed to be open welcoming community environments not secure police stations. They have too much glass, open lobbies, no line of sight security and video surveillance systems that never worked from day one.
Never mind the few pissbums that infect places like Fillmore, imagine what fifty or more of those "Occupy Chicago" could do if they flashed into any station and surprised and overwhelmed the meager desk and lockup crew.
In the event of a natural or manmade disaster could we shelter our people in place in a station for any length of time or would we be reduce to the level of those pissbums on the floors.
Not much thought was given to officer safety in building these stations. They were opportunities for the Daley Crime Family to loot the city treasury.
True. I am a citizen and was in the station on Harrison and a thug/hoodlum entered the station with the intention of "slapping the @+-#" out of the female Officer behind the desk. He didn't slap her was because me and another person waiting would have been wqitnesses and would have testified as such.
I lived in Blue Island and Calumet Park and Blue island has bullet proof glass and citizens have to wait for an Officer to admit them to the area where the Officers are to speak with them.
How about those headlines?
Lincoln Park Chase bank branch robbed
Prosecutors: Rogers Park man stabbed his roommate to death over TV, denied bail
$5K reward offered for arrest of men who attacked, robbed priest
COD police report first campus robberies in several years
Update: Man found shot critically injured
Cops: Men bilked woman out of thousands in import scheme
2 bodies found in Sauk Village in home for sale
Oak Park police issue sketch in bakery robbery
Cops: Stolen cars were left at crossings, struck by Metra trains
CPS trails other big cities in reading, math scores
Robbery prompts SWAT response near UIC campus, no one found
Cops: Elgin teen stole more than $10,000 in items from suburban homes
Cops warn South Side businesses of delivery-driver robberies
Priest beaten during robbery at South Side parish
Oak Park bakery robbed, cashier locked in storeroom
Officials: Man arrested for DUI with toddler in car was 5 times the limit
Guns, bulletproof vest found after 6-hour Uptown standoff
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Ahhh yeah..but you know what the important thing is?
That we keep an eye on those people outside the CME to make sure that they don't set something down on the sidewalk.
That the CME gets it's hundreds of millions of dollars in tax breaks so that the illusion of hard work is all you need to make a living.
Let's just keep doing what we are doing and not change a thing. Look at this culture this society has created eh?
It's all about the money. They really couldn't care less about our safety they'd rather spend the money elsewhere.
If they say otherwise they're merely paying lip service.
The suburban PD I work for has a station built in early 70's and has a secured lobby with ballistic glass.
The war is lost!
The Subway at 69th and ashland is more secure than the 007th district station. I'm not kidding, there is bulletproof glass surrounding the employees and you order through vents in the glass. Something to think about..
The best was the drunk sleeping next to the Christmas Tree in 015 on Chicago.
The PBC get the say on what the stations are gonna look like, everything else too for that matter. Just a way for the pols to get their people what they want. Supt dont have much of a say. Just more intrenched corruption.
At one time each building built with federal funds had to have art work worth 10% of the buildings cost. Result, the giant bat in front of the Social Security building downtown.
12/07/2011 07:45:00 AM
I can not remember a bigger waste of public funds than spending 10% of a buildings cost on "artwork".
If the people who are concerned about this "artwork" want this garbage, let them raise private funds for it and get permission to put it in public areas.
Publicly funded art is welfare for "artists" and we shouldn't waste taxpayer money on it.
Just when you thought this department couldn't get any worse, we get McGoof as our leader. 21 years on and have never seen it this bad. Plain and simple its depressing!
These idiots should have had our stations built like the ones in the burbs. Anyone walking in needs to speak to a police officer behind bullet proof glass.
"How about a info thread on Densey's wife whom passed suddenly."
Yeah, saw that too- very sad. What can we do to help him through this agony? I pray for him to have strength.
Off topic, but a good read.
http://news.yahoo.com/illinois-state-embarrassment-174008631.html?bouchon=602,il
Anonymous said...
Uh, the desk crew does carry guns, right?
12/07/2011 08:10:00 AM
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Thanks Ass Hole..
They get the first shot, now go work the desk.
"Dick Daley"; "Guns are dangerous"........so he disarms the police.....
Uh, the desk crew does carry guns, right?
12/07/2011 08:10:00 AM
who wants ta know?
All the stations. Major security breaches and concerns everywhere you turn. Car wash bums walking the stations at will. Civilians setting up sales tables my interview rooms and evidence. Parking lots without officer gaurd shacks. I guess only headquarters is good enough to have that huh.
let's look at the pussification of our department, powder blue shirts, powder blue and white squad cars,
----------------------------------We wore powder blue shirts and robbin's egg blue helmets during the 68 Democratic Convention and no one thought we were pussies.
Disarming officers at stations and certain courts has to stop!!!! FOP are you EVER going to address this?
Station security in Chicago has got to be one of the most important issues, as well as one of the most dangerous ones that needs to be addressed sooner rather than later. Heck, when I was in the Army back in the 70's with the Military Police, even our crappy MP stations had a raised desk about as high as someone's head, with mirrors on the wall at the other end so we could see behind the people approaching the desk. Plus, we had a shotgun mounted underneath the desk, just in case. For you guys in CPD to have to work in an environment with piss bums sleeping on the floor and who knows what else wandering in your stations, I feel really sorry for you and hope that no one has to die or be seriously injured before this situation is rectified.
Stopped at the Summit station the other day to pick up an item, WOW! bullet proof glass,sealed doors,more security than a "chicken shack" as Pat Camden stated yesterday!
I think you mean 003 not 005. 005 installed a higher desk area 2 years ago. 004 is also wide open as well.
12/07/2011 12:22:00 AM
Granted, 005 has those gates now on the sides of the desk, but that won’t stop someone from walking thru the revolving door and letting a few rounds fly.
More than one person walked / ran into the lobby of 005 with a gun, and not just the police!
Lunatic Sgt. G. M. will just jump atop the service desk & beat the shit out of anyone. His impatience once tossed a mentally challenged citizen across the floor and out the door, until the citizen summoned an ambulance. Got love 011! Did he retire yet? Sgt. J.T. & G.M. keep saying they'll retire, but they haven't gone anywhere. Time to go guys; your good old policing style won't be tolerated by Rahm's regime!
Protecting the Breast.
One fried chicken store I used to buy lunch at on the South side
had bullet proof glass from counter top to ceiling. You ordered
Through a microphone, put your money on a bullet proof turnstile
Where your food came out. You would think the breast of a police
officer is a little more valuable than crispy fried chicken part.
What a world
Bob
Second attempt to post this...
We call the design of the new stations like 10,15,16,and 20 "Alamo Modern". They were designed to be open welcoming community environments not secure police stations. They have too much glass, open lobbies, no line of sight security and video surveillance systems that never worked from day one and are jut movie et props.
Never mind the few pissbums that infect places like Fillmore, imagine what fifty or more of those "Occupy Chicago" assholes could do if they flashed into any station and surprised and overwhelmed the meager desk and lockup crew.
In the event of a natural or manmade disaster could we shelter our people in place in a station for any length of time or would we be reduce to the level of those pissbums on the floors.
Not much thought was given to officer safety,efficiency or comfort in building these stations. They were opportunities for the Daley Crime Family to loot the city treasury.
Professional leadership at work.....NOT!!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG6JwoxIdko&feature=related
3:19 AM
Will you stop referring to that filthy rat cocksucker as "J-Fed"? Identify the shameless coward as "J-FLED".
GOTTA RUN!
To the blogger writing about Daley screwing things up. Yes this is true, and his associates made millions of "extra" money too.
But please remember, these same people are still here and feeding off of Rhams people in exchange for donations.
You will notice that before the elections, he said he wanted input from the people. Now it seems he and his staff have forgotten the people and could care less, just as long as they get donations.
So basically, we screwed!
OT: To the ISP Officer who pulled over my daughter on the Dan Ryan Expressway at 8:43 a.m. for going 60 in a 55 speed zone and following too close, thanks for giving her the warning ticket. I know that she informed you that I am a police... blah blah blah
he goof he pulled her over because she was speeding( though not by much) but did give her courtesy. She got a warning not a ticket. Big deal there is no court, no fine, and does not go on her record. This is the equivalent of you doing a bullshit contact card to show your big activity for the day(you know to show you did some work to justify getting paid about $300.00 for the day). Relax and be thankful he didn't write her an actual ticket.
>>>Anonymous said...
At one time each building built with federal funds had to have art work worth 10% of the buildings cost. Result, the giant bat in front of the Social Security building downtown.
12/07/2011 07:45:00 AM
I can not remember a bigger waste of public funds than spending 10% of a buildings cost on "artwork".<<<
You misplaced the decimal point; its 1% of the cost must be on artwork. That's reasonable since we spend a good amount of our work time why not have some art in the place to make it more pleasant for the troops.
But, let us have some say in what it is. A good example is the junk in the 10th District. Free form brass inlays in the terrazzo lobby floor and a banner on the wall representing the Black and Hispanic heritage of the area. This forgets the neighborhood here know as "Little Italy", or that Pilsen is an town in Czechoslovakia, on that several nearby M.B. churches have Hebrew inscriptions over their doors.
Pardon me for being an Art Critic but what we have in 010 is $138,000 of brass graffiti.
There are a few good artists on this department, give them a crack at this and let the troops decide with an on-line vote like what is done with vehicle stickers every year.
P.S. I remember when that giant bat was put in; it was supposed to represent, “Chicago Clout”. Not bad, but Detroit’s symbolic sculpture is a huge iron fist. We got the Daley center Picasso, Calder’s pink steel Flamingo and “The Bean."
I was on a committee that was supost to make suggestions on a new station.
12/07/2011 09:29:00 AM
LOL WTF! Do you people make up your own words? What the hell is supost? Did you mean "supposed to"? Stop butchering the English language with made up words, misspellings and constant shitty grammar. You make all the police look like 3rd grade retards.
Uhh, Camden, the last time I checked, a Chicken Shack didn't have over 200 Sworn, Armed Police Officers working inside it. Make your point, but not by using pointless examples.
12/07/2011 11:35:00 AM
220 sworn does not make a secure physical plant. BR glass and a moat make a facility (more) secure.
He DID make his point. The nearby chicken shack has BR glass. We do not.
01:12 here...Bobbie Jackson (God rest her wonderful soul) introduced me to 'Karate Man.' As I don't think he ever had a proper birth certificate he will remain 'Karate Man' to me forever. I now suspect that his renaming to 'Karate Dan' has something to do with his adoption by Jeff, who is a kind soul to cobble together a family with him. 'Karate Man's security skills lay in his spontaneous episodes of screaming, kicking, and punching, the air like a tazmanian devil. Needless to say, the lobby would empty in a hurry with no one likely to return for days. Thus, if you wanted to enter the building and attack the officers, you'd have to make it past 'Karate Man' first! There's about a buzillion 'Karate Man' stories out there, but in Fillmore that's a drop in the bucket.
Your daughter got a warning ticket and you are complaining? 60 in a 55and following too closely during rush hour on the Ryan sounds like a multicar accident waiting to happen. If she rear ended the car in front of her would she have told the driver its okay, my dad is a cop? Chill out. No need to call out the Statie when she didn't get a ticket.
To the goof beefing about a warning ticket from ISP for your grown daughter...WTF are you beefing about. Grow up, it was a warning, not an actual ticket. You, evidently, are one of those guys who's kids can do know wrong, no matter how old they are.
nonymous said...
Som
e of this could be prevented if at least someone on the desk would stop facebooking or shopping or playing games on the computer. People that work the desk usually aren't the hard chargers from the watch. They are either people that are too scared to work the street or are older and co
uld care less about anything.
Don't paint with such a broad brush. The desk crew on my watch are pretty decent.
Hey guys relax...if you read the statement I wrote, I said "Thanks for the warning" to the ISP Officer. I was stating that he could have shown courtesy when he stated he didn't care that her parent was CPD, not that he gave her a warning....that warning was a Great Christmas present because it would have cost her a couple hundred bucks if he had written her the tickets! Not complaining, being grateful!!! However, hope everyone, including the ISP Officer still has a Merry Christmas
I had the best time of my life being a Chicago Police Officer.
Bless You All !!
12/07/2011 12:32:00 PM
I'm glad you had the best time of your life. But you would hate it now. So enjoy the memories. Now this job sucks. I hope you have a long and healthy retirement.
I was lucky to be trained by guys like you in the mid-80's. When those guys retired, it was like the extinction of a species.
Anonymous said...
Protecting the Breast.
One fried chicken store I used to buy lunch at on the South side
had bullet proof glass from counter top to ceiling. You ordered
Through a microphone, put your money on a bullet proof turnstile
Where your food came out. You would think the breast of a police
officer is a little more valuable than crispy fried chicken part.
What a world
Bob
12/08/2011 07:00:00 AM
Farmer Brown's Ribs on Clybourn was like that. you got your plastic plate of ribs slathered in sauce piled on top of a couple of slices of white bread through a thick plexi window. And the hot links, after some drinking they were great, I know, mystery meat, the best Moo & Oink had I guess. I'm still here 30 years later.
Anonymous said...
Uhh, Camden, the last time I checked, a Chicken Shack didn't have over 200 Sworn, Armed Police Officers working inside it. Make your point, but not by using pointless examples.
12/07/2011 11:35:00 AM<<<
This has to be from one of Rahm's non-police trolls.
A lot of time on midnights there's just a couple of cops on the desk, the lockup and the W.C.
Very often they are outnumbered by the prisoners in the lockup and citizens waiting for service or prisoners being bonded out.
Those "over 200 Sworn Armed Police Officers" just are not in the fort at any one time.
Did I say, "fort"?!? Ha!
>>>Anonymous said...
Hey guys relax...if you read the statement I wrote, I said "Thanks for the warning" to the ISP Officer. I was stating that he could have shown courtesy when he stated he didn't care that her parent was CPD, not that he gave her a warning....that warning was a Great Christmas present because it would have cost her a couple hundred bucks if he had written her the tickets! Not complaining, being grateful!!! However, hope everyone, including the ISP Officer still has a Merry Christmas
12/08/2011 05:20:00 P,M,<<<
It was a gift. ISP has in car video too and he has to account for his stops. Stay safe and Merry Christmas.
Anonymous said...
Uhh, Camden, the last time I checked, a Chicken Shack didn't have over 200 Sworn, Armed Police Officers working inside it. Make your point, but not by using pointless examples.
I thought I made my point some people protect fried chicken better than
The city protects police stations.
Bob
Anonymous said...
Hey guys relax...if you read the statement I wrote, I said "Thanks for the warning" to the ISP Officer. I was stating that he could have shown courtesy when he stated he didn't care that her parent was CPD, not that he gave her a warning....that warning was a Great Christmas present because it would have cost her a couple hundred bucks if he had written her the tickets! Not complaining, being grateful!!! However, hope everyone, including the ISP Officer still has a Merry Christmas
12/08/2011 05:20:00 PM
Oh, come on. If you are not complaining why bring it up? Another poster was absolutely correct, you think because you are the police, your kids can do no wrong, and if they do they should'nt be called out about it. Grow up.
In 017 a certain desk sgt R.O. Did not even carry a gun while working desk
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