No Moves in 2012?
More half-assed planning by the Department leads to more rumors and the inescapable conclusion that no one from outside the Department (along with meri-clout-orious hacks) has ever actually read a contract:
- The city will have five areas in 2012.
GMAC had no idea that all assignments were by seniority and furloughs could not be changed once chosen. A Compstat computer nerd ran the numbers and realized if the 75 dicks with least seniority were moved to Area South then half the area would be on vacation in the winter and early spring, while more than half of the new Area North would be on vacation in the summer.
They also received word there is no money for construction, desks, computers, or even chairs.
The only reason the entire plan was not scrapped today is because of GMAC's ego.
The new plan is to move the 50 lowest seniority dicks from Areas 5, 3, and 4 to Areas 1 and 2. But, they just figured out that they can't do that until 2013.
In the end, everything will remain exactly the same.
If in fact everything does remain the same, way to fuck with peoples' lives, heads, families and plans. You've just created and/or reinforced a collective perception that this Department is rudderless, hopeless, run by incompetents, and will screw with you in a heartbeat. Rather than attempting to reform a system that, while working well in some respects, could use some adjusting from within, it's best to throw the baby out with the bathwater, sell the tub for scrap iron and burn down the house the tub once stood in. Way to go!
Anyone have the real story? We're mighty curious how this is all going to play out.
Anyone have the real story? We're mighty curious how this is all going to play out.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
159 Comments:
If G-Mac had a competent management and labor affairs commander whose incompetence makes the Sup look stupid, we wouldn't be spending so much time packing up and running around only to go nowhere. Get your shit together Commander O'Neill and stop wasting the department's time! You are an embarrassment to the dept.
The Department lied and said TRU would never end and then overnight they were gone.
The Department then lied and said CTA Special would be terminated but it is now staying! Way to screw with officers who need the extra money for college and tax bills.
When will everyone wake up and realize the Department exempts are incompetent, lying morons again proven by not moving Detectives after they lied once more!
With as many moronic idiots that we have had running this department I have never ever seen it as fucked up as is it is now. How can people be this stupid. Doesnt anyone think any of this through. There isnt one gold star on this job that is worth a shit. Most if not all were promoted beyond their capabilites at patrolman. Ill get a nice big bag of popcorn and watch the show because this is funny as hell.
All that I can say is if anyone ever heres me say "it can't get anymore fucked up then this" please tase my ass...
Maybe JFled wasn't so bad after all..... OMG I better get another round in...hey bartender, make it a triple!
Hey dumb fuck take your ball and go home..we have we contract and to use a great movie quote "this isn't Nam there are rules..mark it zero."LIFM
It is very interesting to hear this rumor, but before it even made it to this blog, a friend at HQ said that when they started coming up with the numbers, they weren't going to be saving a single red penny.
As a matter of fact, it would end up costing the city far more than they would like to implement the changes.
The big thing is that G-Mac and his crew of craniums basically looked at all of this crap without any indepth analysis.
When I worked in the private sector, we moved about 300 positions out of state, to another location the company owned. Once the announcement was made it took well over 1 year to put in place the whole plan and it cost us millions of dollars. The costs was not a huge issue because we were going to be making more money with the new arrangements.
What money would the city be making with such large scale moves for Dets and P.O.s? NONE! They would only be spending a wad of money they don't have.
No one did any true analysis until recently. The media just ate the shit they were fed by the city and HQ. The rest of us have our morale broken all the more.
It wouldn't surprise me if they decided to go ahead with the moves, despite the enormous costs, just so G-Mac can save face.
By the way, G-Mac's family has gone bye-bye. There is no truth to the domestic incident, but plenty of evidence related to G-Mac's philandering and boozing.
Emmanuel is still pissed about the bill of goods he was sold on hiring G-Mac. Emmanuel has thrown a few tantrums over the issue and is frustrated that he feels his hands are tied.
I say good for them! They all deserve each other because both of them are the biggest fucking liars this side of Jersey and the Belt.
In the meantime, boys and girls, be prepared to keep on being demoralized.
idiot and he makes the big bucks
Who the fuck picked this retard to be the superintendent. This fucktark cant get anything right. Now go back to New York or New Jersey or New gofuckyourself, wherever your from, hero.
A Flight of Eagles commanded by a bunch of "Turkeys" means everything is getting more FUBAR everyday that they are in charge !!!
Rahm to JMac: "This is another fine mess you've gotten me into you Schmuck" !!!!!
Fucking Incompetence.......
I wounder how much this little missadventure has cost the taxpayers so far ?
Somebody big should be 30 days pending over this.
WTF ???
What a joke this department has become. I hope this city Burns to the ground come may.
the example of the furlos would present a problem
Stay tuned
OT:
"When asked how he expects to be involved personally with the policing of the G-8 summit in Chicago next year, McCarthy said he would be on the front lines.
"There is a G-8 summit?" he joked. "Expect to see me out there with the cops to get the job done.""
Yea right!
From http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-garry-mccarthy-speech-20111206,0,4055279.story
I remember when we got a whole bunch of old donated chairs from the Dept. of Defense.
We are still using them 20 years later!
More about manpower and useless McJerseyShore...
McCARTHY DEFENDS MOVING MORE COPS TO PATROL DUTIES
"We are running police departments more like a business. ... With that comes organizational change,"
But Michael Shields, president of the Fraternal Order of Police, challenged McCarthy in a question-and-answer session to acknowledge that the Police Department has a "manpower problem" if it wants to fulfill its goals.
"No, I can't admit it. No, I won't admit it," McCarthy said.
The speech came three weeks after Shields, whose union represents rank-and-file officers, addressed the same club and compared the city's handling of police manpower to "Enron accounting."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-
met-garry-mccarthy-speech-20111206,0,4055279.story
Not true, everything is going forward as presented.
I am still retiring soon.
Why couldn't they move the lowest 50 dicks until 2013 ??
I thought the same thing about seniority. With 25 years on, I would probably be low-man in Area 3. Plus the simple logistics of how big desks are, how many they can fit into the existing space, electrical needs, etc., no one even thought of.
McStupe opened his big fat stupid mouth before he did his homework. Now he looks like a bigger asshole. And I beg to differ with the poster about the domestic with McStupid--saw it myself. So did others.
This guy is a loose cannon and should be in rehab.
I already packed half the shit from my desk, files, etc, which are still in my trunk because I couldn't decide what to do with them. Moving day was supposed to be by Jan 1.
I am so done doing a f*cking thing on this job. Detectives work their asses off on cases and shitheads end up getting probation or a slap on the wrist. No justice. Why bother?
This rumor is probably true. In our Area we were out of paper by the middle of November and told none was coming till January. Over half our chairs are either broken or have been thrown away.
Half the floor was supposed to be taken down for the rehab and that has not started.
What once looked like a savings by reallocating supervisors could not possibly cover the cost of new desks, computers, chairs etc.
I could see some detectives getting moved inside their respective areas to cover HGS and RBT because of retirements. I also believe there is plenty of money for promotions and they will be coming because the 25 on up crowd is bailing out in droves.
I hope to see the promotions before I leave. I have seen some outstanding policemen at my scenes and thought how great it would be to have them up in the area. Your effort, talent, and knowledge is appreciated by this gumshoe.
Our Area commander told us that we would be bidding the week of the 019th but come the 1st of the year we would still be at our old workplaces awaiting furniture delivery to "new" areas. Would stay working where we were at come the beginning of the year but would be assigned to different areas. WTF?
What is truly amazing is that they just figured this out? I could have told them this from the moment it was announced.
Just saw jag-bag on TV telling Mike Shields, "sorry, we're not low one police."
If that's the truth, then why do friends of mine who work in 011 say there are not enough officers on the street and that they are always in a RAP?
Same thing for detective units. Sometimes 3 or fewer people in the office. Ridiculous. And yet the victims are screaming that their cases should be handled immediately. Talked to a victim who wanted a copy of her case report and was told by the records section that it could take up to 6 weeks. She was incredulous. I said 'Welcome to the CPD'.
That is the problem--citizens are clueless about how bad the CPD is until they need us, then they are outraged and take it out on us--here's a clue--write to 9.5 or McStupe, don't take it out on us.
We can't even get supplies because there is no money left. Gas cards for det's who need to go out of town to interview someone have been cut off due to lack of payment.
I fully expect the lights to go off soon.
So what about a '90 day' detail to fill those winter/spring spots. Oh that's right they can do that. As far as keeping 5 areas the contract doesn't say there has to be 5 nor does it say how many per each area.
Nice job by everyone in 023 last night for the HBT situation. Grabbed 3 bad guys, 2 guns, an AR15 and ballistic vest....and more importantly no officers hurt. Thanks to all the outside help.
OT: R.I.P. Charlie Roberts.
Didn't Obummer state over and that he would close Guantanamo (so the "world" could respect us again) but then took charge and "discovered" that it wasn't "practical".
Good to see the cream rising to the top.
If anybody cared to look like I said last month look at the city Police Dept. budget (city clerk has full budget on web site). Their are NO new openings or left vacant positions for ANY promotions to Detectives or Sergeants or for that matter any positions in any unit or district. They the powers that be eliminated all old vacant positions which was a buffer for the old payroll acccounting technique to avoid going over budget! It's called wishfull thinking and musical chairs who playing the fiddler!
Don't see any promotions for this year in budget look in october 2012for 2013's budget but I hope and pray every day Shields won't give awaw the ship in JUNE contract negoations. Especially our pensions!!!
Ha!
The cloven hoofed, evil Mayor picked a buffoon with McStupor. He listened to Wasserman instead of doing a proper background check. Should have started at P.S. 146 (remedial) in the Bronx.
12:43 is correct though. They may just do some of these things because neither is sticking around and they both have nothing but contempt for Chicagoans and policemen.
So one could say this is indicative of the ENTIRE process in which this second rate Department is run. We get the leaders we deserve, therefore let the citizens get the service they voted for.
That's the reason CPD has Merit clouted bosses at the top , poor
reading comprehension .
rahms running the cpd , not mcgoof
UPDATE ON INSTITUTING THE XO.....
The Captains are about the vote on it. Their board approved it and recommends that the members vote "yes" because the city caved it to their demands. If they pass it, it will probably be in place the 1st period.
What demands did they get you ask?
Basically, they are getting to keep the benefits they fought for and already have their current contract. They will have the opportunity to work holidays and act as DC when the boss is off. The only extra is that they MIGHT get a take home car.
Their attorney has convinced them that they should take what the city is offering now so that when the next contract goes to arbitration, the arbitrator would look favorably upon them. Like that is going to happen. The city will try to take away even more for next contract.
It sounds to me like their attorney works for the city.
So the Captains are going to sell out their contract (AGAIN!). This time, for the low cost of a city car.
Watch out lieutenants....the city is coming after you next!
Remember: We the unknowing, led by
the uncaring, working for the ungrateful.
All the changes will be part of the negotiations in the next contract. With our medical, clothing allowance, shift diffrential, holidays, 4 day work week, etc. everything will be on the table. We will have to fight to keep what we have and to stop what changes affect our officers negatively. Boys and Girls it is up to the FOP now.
Anyway, I voted for Paschke.
ballerino unable to reduce aldercreatures , remove daley and burke bodyguard details and now unable to close area detective divisions . FOP runs it , will fight the ballerino 24/7.
So McCarthy and Shields are going at it publically in the press. Great! City hall won't be able to squelch him, and he will eventually say or do something stupid with his big mouth. I'm staying tuned to that channel. Keep him yapping Mike, he's just a big bully.
I said it before and I'll say it again, most of these exempts would never make it in the real corporate world. Most couldn't even be a manager at a Mc Donalds!
FUBAR!
Rahm to JMac: "This is another fine mess you've gotten me into you Schmuck" !!!!!
12/06/2011 01:44:00 AM
JMac to mirror: "When is Mayor Bloomberg gonna scram so I can get duh fuck back to duh NYPD???"
He is standing by his statements(orders from Tiny Dancer) that the CPD is not understaffed, even though the FOP has alleged Enron Style personnel book keeping...
Mc Nutty.....
That says it all..... What a tool........... A dull tool...........
seems like it's time for another Department award, in addition to some of the other bullshit ribbons, like "We love the democratic convention" ribbon, or "We showed up for work for more than two days without getting sick" ribbon...how about a "Half-assed" ribbon, with a small image of the back half of a donkey on the ribbon? Looks like their would be lots of folks wearing that one....
If anyone's morale was affected by this nonsense, then they deserve to be miserable. Any P.O. with half of a P.O.'s brain would smelled the stink on this bullshit before the first shovel-full was thrown at them, and deftly stepped aside.
It would figure that in this particular case, all of the information that needed to be analyzed, and factored in, in order to make the desired moves was looked at by the "bosses" last.
Yet, the coppers that would have been affected by the desired moves looked at that - more appropriate - information first.
SCC, just curious and no disrespect intended, but no thread for former ADS Charlie Roberts? He was a good boss who cared about the P.O.'s.... Something that isn't around much today. RIP Charlie
Random steroid testing starts on the first as well. All the juice heads better find a good Dr. to hook them up with a prescription.
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Saw this in a earlier post. Anyone who is on juice on this job is a clown. What is the attraction? Cannot get stronger by workin out hard? We all know who they are..they usually have forearm tattoos, sons of anarchy t-shirts,tell "war stories" about how they beat up everybody. I find it funny after they get off of them for awhile they shrink up. Enjoy baldness, small balls, impotence,acne,cancer,heart/liver disease...but hey ya "look" strong.
Heh heh. Can it get worse?
About our FOP presidents comments at the CIty CLub. Mike you made a ass of yourself even though I support you.
Mike is a great guy but he is going to get his ass handed to him by the Mayor when it comes time for our new contract. Mike Shields acted poorly in a very public forum yesterday. I want him to always stick up for the police to these political types but he showed so big immaturity yesterday and showed his true age and lack of political experience. The Mayor in the end is going to Set Shields up and make him fall hard at Mikes expense. Shields does not know what he is up against. My advice for Shields is to humble yourself a little and bring it down a notch. Lose your arrogance and do not think you are smarter then everyone else.
collective perception that this Department is rudderless, hopeless, run by incompetents, and will screw with you in a heartbeat.
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Ahhhhh, the merit(clout)orious system at work!
If you think your boss is too stupid to move a few desks and chairs and computers around, get ready for G8! Boy is THAT going to be a mess.
Is anyone surprised at this bullshit?
fop rules ny mccarthy
mccarthy = no power
That right and 021 is NOT closing, nor is 013 or any other district. Ever thing is on hold til Summer!!!!! HOORAY....I get to stay in Hyde Park till I retire.
What money would the city be making with such large scale moves for Dets and P.O.s? NONE! They would only be spending a wad of money they don't have.
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Wake the fuck up people. This entire idea is not about saving money. It's about appeasing the reverends and residents who think that by putting more police in their broken neighborhoods there will be a difference made. You could put a copper on every block in 003, 004,005,006 and 007 and it won't change a fucking thing. If this is done, and when it fails, what will be the next great thing?
It's like being a Cub fan, and I am one. Every three or four or five years some new genius comes along with a new plan to end the drought. College of coaches, Dallas Green, Ed Lynch, Jim Hendry now Theo. The new plan ALWAYS fails, they still suck, and they flounder along till the next new plan gets tried out.
Same thing here. OW Wilson, Riordan, Fred Rice, Rodriguez, Cline, Weis now McIain'tlisteningtonobody. It will always fail because there are too many people who are satisfied with poverty, welfare, shit schools, no parent families and gangs.
It is a fucking circle jerk, and I am THRILLED that I am retired. Though I do miss being around coppers.
Stay safe, watch their hands, go home to your family.
the tax payers can be protected or the money can be spent elsewhere. but the elite have cpd to protect them. you must realize who is important and who is not. resign yourself to the new order of business. europe is broke so we bail them out the city is broke so,reach deeper in your pocket.socialism is a wonderful thing.
There is talk of a final class of 50 dicks, but beware. They will be assigned 30 to Area 2 and 20 to Area 1 and without a future class, those dicks could stay in place for years.
This is the only way the department can staff the southside without violating the contract.
Problem is there is NO money for promotions, but the city may allow the minimal cost of 50 D1 to D2A promotions so McCarthy can save face. That's at least $250k.
Right now it looks like the aldermen will approve the extra money, IF they get the merit picks. McCarthy hates this, but he's painted himself into a corner.
Stay tuned. If there is a class, watch for the entire 20% merit to be relatives of the aldermen. This could be the last promotion for a long time.
I know how this happened. I see it all the time. Fort Filatio is full of LAZY, INCOMPETENT, MORONS. They all truly believe that it is their right to do nothing. Regarless of their pay. They collectively were thinking "Fuck that, someone else will do it." And guess what, NOBODY DID IT. This department is cancer ridden.
You know with all this game playing and trash talk.....how we coppers dont stick up for ourselves is beyond me. The city, Mayor and politicos use us like sacrificial pawns. We are the scum per them. We are the reason the pension is in the crapper.
How about all the good things coppers do? How come the media never touches on that. There are many coppers just in my district alone that have special
Talents, side businesses, and who do a ton of voluteer benefit work for kids/people in need.
How come never a segment or show talking about all the good we coppers do? Many Chicago Police Officers I know have extraordinary talents that they dont even talk about.
If there is a reporter or scout out there that would be interested in hearing these stories and doing a positive show on Police Officers, than leave a email addressmand I will contact you. Take a chance!
Another cut in Detroit same way Chicago is heading!
http://detroit.cbslocal.com/2011/12/06/detroit-ending-free-police-escorts-for-funerals/
If our desk sgt. stays on the desk much longer, I guess we'll all be sitting on milk crates....
Mcwhy is he the boss? He told an audience basically we have enough police! Yea ok boss,how many cars are down per watch? Why is your exempt staff so large? Why is carouthers and henny penny still exempts? Simple boss weakness,you have shown time and time again your complete disdain for the working police officers sir! You are somewhat of a bully yourself and that is how you conduct yourself! If you had any honor you would resign immediately but of course you won't! GOD BLESS our last real police boss Phil Cline!
Contract , city of chitcawgo don't worry about no stinkin contract
you coppers will take pay cuts and like it
I know I'm going to get some shit for this comment, but what's wrong with the Supt saying he's going to be there with the cops during the G8. Lead by example and if he's out there, how can you complain. If he didn't go you would call him a coward.
I'm retired and maybe things have changed, but during both the Convention and the MLK riots, the big bosses were out there with the troops. They saw first hand what was going on and gave the appropriate orders. In situations like the G8 you have to lead from the front lines
Are 2 is a dump.. They put new windows and you can't open them. It gets up in the 90's on the second floor. The desk and the chairs are falling apart. It's hard to find a printer that works much less a computer. There is no room for any new Detectives. What are these assholes thinking???
It's all about the money.
Exempts, even when they are not NYPDer or FBI imported Hatchetmen have to take orders from City Hall. The mayor holds the purse and this mayor wants cuts no matter who it hurts.
Well let's see that he is a ONE TERM MAYOR.
Stay Safe. REGISTER and VOTE!
In 2012 will house cats still come in late and go home early?
I have the real story:
HURRAY! That's the real story.
This was obvious to everyone at Belmont and Western when the planners and architects walked through the building.
They were talking about the planned physical changes, remarking it would cost over a million dollars to implement the changes in the interior footprint.
Big SAVINGS there. Over a million dollars to make unwarranted, unnecessary changes. Yup, big savings.
What the hell is going on in 023?? Their have been about 10 people shot and 2 dead in the last 3 days. Most of the shootings in broad daylight. So much for needing the police on the Northside.
Stupid, Incompetent Exempts!
This place is run like: "Hogan's Heroes" the old TV show that stumped the Nazis all the time! With Supt. Mc Carthy as Colonel Klink!
The Bosses, just don't have a clue, on how to "Lead and Manage"!
Da Pelon
The Capt union sent out the ballots for them to vote whether they want to accept the City's half-assed plan for the XO shaft. Some of the Capts have drunk the koolaid believing McJersy’s pleas- I mean sales pitch when he "stopped by" their secret meeting for a beer with the boys the other night. Some of them don't realize they are getting greased for the poke. Some know it and are trying to prevent it, but others believe the BS line it’s the fast track to their command spot. HA! Fast track my ass. Wait- they’ll be lieutenants with less seniority than before they were handed the non-service rank of Capt. Those who now work for them will be getting better furloughs in 2013. Hahahahah- fools go ahead vote for it! Funny- the ballots were hand delivered by a beat car from 012 to all of the Captains in the middle of the night. Why?
Can somebody answer what a " Tier 1 Officer" is? Maybe they mean " Tear 1" which is why my unit carried all the inside useless 6 yr wonders on days.
No promotions in 2012
CPD is downsizing
OT: Sun Times article///(for Raal)???
Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy and the head of the police union got into a verbal shootout Monday over whether there’s a shortage of officers.
McCarthy spoke to the City Club of Chicago before taking questions from the audience — and got a tough one from Michael Shields, president of the Fraternal Order of Police.
Shields asked how McCarthy could expect to fight crime proactively when there is a shortage of 2,300 officers. Then he asked: “Can you admit the Chicago Police Department has a manpower problem?”
“The answer is no, I can’t do that because I don’t believe it,” McCarthy responded. “Sorry, Mike. I didn’t want to have these conversations in public.”
Shields’ figure was based on the department’s past budgeted strength of 13,500 officers.
But McCarthy questioned why the city thought it needed 13,500 officers in the first place.
“What was the analysis that was done? Was it based on geography, was it based on crime?” he said. “The answer I keep getting is ‘no, it’s based on the budget.’ ”
McCarthy told the audience he’s been moving hundreds of officers into patrol jobs since he took office in May. He said he shifted about 600 from desk jobs and about 400 from citywide units. Meanwhile, crime has fallen for 17 straight weeks compared to the same period of 2010, McCarthy said.
McCarthy acknowledged every city wants more officers. But Chicago and other cities don’t have the ability to pay for them in the current economic doldrums, he said. Chicago currently has 12,370 sworn officers and supervisors, according to figures released Monday by the city. The 2011 budget eliminated more than 1,200 vacant positions.
Chicago ranks third in the nation in the number of cops per 1,000 people, according to a comparison of 34 cities with populations over 500,000. Washington, D.C., ranked first, New York fifth and Los Angeles 13th. The comparison was based on a 2010 Department of Justice report.
McCarthy said he is not looking to expand the department’s payroll any time soon.
“Quite frankly, I don’t think it’s a fair thing to do to the taxpayers at this point,” he said to rousing applause. Then he fired a shot at Shields, the FOP president: “Mike, why aren’t you clapping?”
Really??? 12,370 where are they. It's bad when you can't get immediate response from the police in 16.
Cut the aldermen...when you'll be saving taxpayer money. 120,000. for a part time job. I am not a police officer
I'm so sick of the streaming videos saying "we care about you" and "stay safe" and "family first" and "your safety and well being is our #1 goal", blah blah blah. They could give a rats ass about any of us. What a fn' shame what this dept has become.
This is what you have to expect when a leader is chosen with a huge ego. He may be wrong on lots of things, but his ego will always require him to push his wrong position rather than admit a mistake.
McJerseyshore = FAIL!
I said this a month ago.....If in Area 5 it took about 19 years to get days....and the rumor that it is going to take about 19 years to get to Detectives North is true, AND the watch selections are to be honored......THEN EVERY A5 DETECTIVE THAT GOES NORTH IS GOING TO WORK DAYS???? Makes no damn sense!
How the hell did ANY of these white shirts pass a test??? Oh ya they didn't. M-E-R-I-T
How about if they have to pay everyone TRIPLE time that were denied a 5B.....Rham may have an aneurism!
OT: HAHAHA, hey SCC you'll love this one. I'm not sure if you watched it or not but Channel 7 @4:30 did a piece on the security of the 011th district station. The fat news reporter Michelle something or the other said that a man with a fully loaded AR15 rifle walked into the 011th district lobby but he wasn't threatening. HA!!! If a man with a fully loaded rifle walked into her office while she was eating her cheeseburger, fry, and milkshake do you think she would consider that threatening? GOD!!! What is it with these idiot news reporters??
>>>Anonymous said...
I'm so sick of the streaming videos saying "we care about you" and "stay safe" and "family first" and "your safety and well being is our #1 goal", blah blah blah. They could give a rats ass about any of us. What a fn' shame what this dept has become.
12/06/2011 04:14:00 PM<<<
Thank God for something...
We haven't seen a streaming video in almost a year...
The Smartboard is broken and the city is too cheap to repair or replace it...
Stay Safe, anyway... and get your family and friends to vote.
OT:
Was looking through the City Directory : Police today trying to find a number...
Noticed that JFled is still Listed as the Stuporvisor of the Department and they haven't put the Jerseylicious Mac on the website yet.
"Funny- the ballots were hand delivered by a beat car from 012 to all of the Captains in the middle of the night. Why?
12/06/2011 03:00:00 PM"
The President of the Captain's Association works midnights in 012, that's why.
Bring J-Fed back. Come on SCC if J-Fed was doing this you would have creamed him by now. Just saying.....
When your this stupid, you want to be around people who are that much more ignorant and stupid so you look good. Well, welcome to Eden G-Mac, here in CPD e have the ultimate ignorant and dumbest brass in the United States!
It shows and will show even more come May 12th G8 time...
Hey G-Mac and Rahm, you want to save a few buck's? Clear out 311 and call back and from now on out-source these calls to a call center in India!
Now this would be rich!
Anything for a buck, right guy's it's for the children
was today the day that the guy who killed Mike Flisk supposed to be sentenced??
Go to
http://www.ptb.state.il.us/
On the front page click on the blue agenda link after
Curriculum and School Standards Advisory Committee Meeting: December 7 - 3:00 PM
Look at pg 3 of the PDF and you will see 2 CPD recruit classes scheduled for 2012 and one for 2013
OT-Any truth to the rumor that a certain sgt. was brought into a district on Sunday am for a drunken altercation.
Anonymous said...
OT: R.I.P. Charlie Roberts.
12/06/2011 07:35:00 AM
they say it's always in three...
R.I.P. James Carroll
To. G-Mac & and 35st
R/O will like to take the time to call all of you a bunch of "Pendejo's".
Gracias.
GOD BLESS our last real police boss Phil Cline!
Don't agree with the above post. Phil Cline is solely responsible for placing most of the current bosses in place. So, he wasn't so great was he ?
If G-Mac had a competent management and labor affairs commander whose incompetence makes the Sup look stupid, we wouldn't be spending so much time packing up and running around only to go nowhere. Get your shit together Commander O'Neill and stop wasting the department's time! You are an embarrassment to the dept.
O'Neill was in place for all the Jfled screwups...
About our FOP presidents comments at the CIty CLub. Mike you made a ass of yourself even though I support you.
Mike is a great guy but he is going to get his ass handed to him by the Mayor when it comes time for our new contract. Mike Shields acted poorly in a very public forum yesterday. I want him to always stick up for the police to these political types but he showed so big immaturity yesterday and showed his true age and lack of political experience. The Mayor in the end is going to Set Shields up and make him fall hard at Mikes expense. Shields does not know what he is up against. My advice for Shields is to humble yourself a little and bring it down a notch. Lose your arrogance and do not think you are smarter then everyone else.
Thanks for your wisdom sir.
OT:
The 1033 Program
The 1033 Program (formerly the 1208 Program) permits the Secretary of Defense to transfer, without charge, excess U.S. Department of Defense (DoD) personal property (supplies and equipment) to state and local law enforcement agencies (LEAs).
So....why can't we get shit that will HELP us for the G8?
Anonymous said...
Remember: We the unknowing, led by
the uncaring, working for the ungrateful.
12/06/2011 08:37:00 AM
We, the unwilling, led by the unqualified, to the unnecessary ,for the ungrateful, have done so much for so long with so little we are now qualified to do almost anything with absolutely nothing
One good thing...017 finally got new batteries and battery chargers for the radios. Guess what? One battery actually lasts an entire tour without chirping. So much for all the radio know-it-alls on here saying it was the narrow-banding that was draining the batteries.
Dumping people while they're on furlough is a pussy move for any Lt.
There is talk of a final class of 50 dicks, but beware. They will be assigned 30 to Area 2 and 20 to Area 1 and without a future class, those dicks could stay in place for years.
This is the only way the department can staff the southside without violating the contract.
Problem is there is NO money for promotions, but the city may allow the minimal cost of 50 D1 to D2A promotions so McCarthy can save face. That's at least $250k.
Right now it looks like the aldermen will approve the extra money, IF they get the merit picks. McCarthy hates this, but he's painted himself into a corner.
Stay tuned. If there is a class, watch for the entire 20% merit to be relatives of the aldermen. This could be the last promotion for a long time.
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Interesting!! This could hold water and makes sense..Is this where the other rumor of a Dets. class came from???
Too bad NYPD uses Facebook rather than secure blogs:
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2070657/Drop-bomb-wipe-NYPD-officers-West-Indian-Day-parade-goers-savages-animals-racially-charged-Facebook-rants.html
By the way, G-Mac's family has gone bye-bye. There is no truth to the domestic incident, but plenty of evidence related to G-Mac's philandering and boozing.
***********************************We didn't have anyone within our own ranks that was a better choice than this guy? It sounds like he won't be here long but boy has he done some damage. In his personal life and on the department. It's time for him to basically resign and head east. I think his ego is too big for that though so Rahm has to step up before its too late.
By the way Compstat and crime control strategies will be gone by Feb 1st 2012.
Do your research, G Mac is the highest paid city employee. Even more money than the mayor.
I'm retired and maybe things have changed, but during both the Convention and the MLK riots, the big bosses were out there with the troops. They saw first hand what was going on and gave the appropriate orders. In situations like the G8 you have to lead from the front lines
12/06/2011 12:54:00 PM
There is no maybe about it. Things have changed. Don't comment on things of which you are not current. If you were a regular reader, you wouldn't submit such a stupid comment.
Anonymous said...
OT: HAHAHA, hey SCC you'll love this one. I'm not sure if you watched it or not but Channel 7 @4:30 did a piece on the security of the 011th district station. The fat news reporter Michelle something or the other said that a man with a fully loaded AR15 rifle walked into the 011th district lobby but he wasn't threatening. HA!!! If a man with a fully loaded rifle walked into her office while she was eating her cheeseburger, fry, and milkshake do you think she would consider that threatening? GOD!!! What is it with these idiot news reporters??
12/06/2011 04:58:00 PM
Unfortunately no. She would not consider it threatening. She is one of the sheep who would look at the guy and ask him if he needs help just as he blows her head off.
Common sense is not as common as you think.
OT 41st Ward blog posting 41st Ward the most booted ward in the city. Go figure. Payback for not voting for tiny dancer.
To 12/6 @ 8:34 pm.. Dont be such a jagoff to a retired officer.. The man/woman merely stated an opinoin and it was not offensive but your response was...have some respect. Sgt. Gogo
08:34 I am a regular reader and am aware of whats happening on the CPD. All I read about is how are we going to handle the G8. I will tell you how, you are going to go out and do you job instead of complaining. All I read about is the security of the station, what if someone comes in and shoots me, you are a po and its a dangerous job, but you signed on for it. What do you want , security guards to protect the desk people, thats why a citizen would run into a police station , for protection, not to have some po say who is going to protect me.
Don't agree with the above post. Phil Cline is solely responsible for placing most of the current bosses in place. So, he wasn't so great was he ?
you gotta be kidding me.... where have you been when jody made all the command changes ... maybe and handful but certainly not most
Anonymous said...
I said this a month ago.....If in Area 5 it took about 19 years to get days....and the rumor that it is going to take about 19 years to get to Detectives North is true, AND the watch selections are to be honored......THEN EVERY A5 DETECTIVE THAT GOES NORTH IS GOING TO WORK DAYS???? Makes no damn sense!
12/06/2011 04:21:00 PM
Your logical flaw here assumes that each detective with at least 19 years seniority in Area 5 would have bid for days, which is most likely not true. There must be some detectives in Area 5 on afternoons and midnights with at least 19 years.
One good thing...017 finally got new batteries and battery chargers for the radios. Guess what? One battery actually lasts an entire tour without chirping. So much for all the radio know-it-alls on here saying it was the narrow-banding that was draining the batteries.
Narrow banding has some/a little to do with he battery drain....actually the problem is in the chargers for the batteries. Occasionally you will see batteries that really good (IMPRES). However, they are being charged by chargers that are not made for those batteries. The good 12/16hr batteries need to be refreshed after the tour. the current chargers aren't capable of doing that. The problem is, these chargers, for a 6 bank, run about $1200. The basic chargers run about $400. Once we get the good radios XTS5000, and the good batteries 7.4 nihm IMPRES, and the good chargers IMPRES refresh capable we will have less issues with battery drain
"I'm retired and maybe things have changed, but during both the Convention and the MLK riots, the big bosses were out there with the troops. They saw first hand what was going on and gave the appropriate orders. In situations like the G8 you have to lead from the front lines
12/06/2011 12:54:00 PM
There is no maybe about it. Things have changed. Don't comment on things of which you are not current. If you were a regular reader, you wouldn't submit such a stupid comment.
12/06/2011 08:34:00 PM
08:34 - You must be the next useless CPD Soup. Things like G8 have NOT changed. Where would you lead from? The computer room at HQ? The mayor’s office? While at college, did you take any management classes, leadership classes? In a G8 situation, the leader (a true boss) belongs on the front line with the troops. OW Wilson was not on the front line because he was NOT a police officer. 08:34 you are a J-Fled clone, you got-a run.
off topic -
do any of you know any law firms/lawyers that specialize in eminent domain law?
If so, could you please email me info regarding the Midway expansion. thank you
leomemorial@hotmail.com
Hey dumb fuck take your ball and go home..we have we contract and to use a great movie quote "this isn't Nam there are rules..mark it zero."LIFM
12/06/2011 12:41:00 AM
Whoa there Nelly Belle! MacCarthy is an uninformed interloper at best. I truly lay blame on our home grown triple merit exempts advising him on what is reasonable, prudent, and consistent with the terms of our respective agreements. MacCarthys advisors consist of the brain trust of Cuello, Wysinger, O'Neill (how did you do on your first sergeants test?), Wiiliams, etc. The resulting crescendo is the product of forty years of affirmative action and political patronage now tempered by merit promotions. A full frontal assault by an iceberg couldn't damage our department anymore than these half-wits. Heaven help us. As for me, thank God I married rich!
if you look at page 12 of tuesdays sun times it looks like gmac *owned* shields at the city club and got a round of applause for doing it.
Why couldn't they move the lowest 50 dicks until 2013 ??
12/06/2011 06:12:00 AM
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They are bid to those Areas. They just bid for watch selection. They can't be moved if they bid to a spot that does not "close."
The department can only close those spots before the annual bidding process, not after.
Watch out lieutenants....the city is coming after you next!
12/06/2011 08:33:00 AM
I am going to sell you out for a roll of Life Savers....but it's gotta be the five flavor kind.
You guys can keep those fucking pineapple flavored ones though.
I'm retired and maybe things have changed, but during both the Convention and the MLK riots, the big bosses were out there with the troops. They saw first hand what was going on and gave the appropriate orders. In situations like the G8 you have to lead from the front lines
12/06/2011 12:54:00 PM
There is no maybe about it. Things have changed. Don't comment on things of which you are not current. If you were a regular reader, you wouldn't submit such a stupid comment.
12/06/2011 08:34:00 PM
BTW, your turn signal has been on for the last 4 miles!
"In 2012 will house cats still come in late and go home early?"
Yes. Don't be jealous.
Worry about YOU, not what breaks you think other people get.
Grow up.
"They were talking about the planned physical changes, remarking it would cost over a million dollars to implement the changes in the interior footprint.
Big SAVINGS there. Over a million dollars to make unwarranted, unnecessary changes. Yup, big savings."
Hey! Connected contractors gotta make money too, y'know!
"This place is run like: 'Hogan's Heroes' the old TV show that stumped the Nazis all the time! With Supt. Mc Carthy as Colonel Klink!"
So does that make Rahm Kriminalrat Hochstetter or General der Infanterie Burkhalter?
Can somebody answer what a " Tier 1 Officer" is?
In the Army it meant the Rangers/SF/Delta; the guys who performed the dangerous missions, went in first, etc.
We also pretty much got what we wanted, budget-wise, at least in the beginning.
"Can somebody answer what a 'Tier 1 Officer' is?"
If you have to ask, you ain't one.
"I'm so sick of the streaming videos saying "we care about you" and "stay safe" and "family first" and "your safety and well being is our #1 goal", blah blah blah. They could give a rats ass about any of us. What a fn' shame what this dept has become."
Nobody cares about patrol.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
All the changes will be part of the negotiations in the next contract. With our medical, clothing allowance, shift diffrential, holidays, 4 day work week, etc. everything will be on the table. We will have to fight to keep what we have and to stop what changes affect our officers negatively. Boys and Girls it is up to the FOP now.
Anyway, I voted for Paschke.
I voted for Bernie Epton
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you old timers comments are getting worse. you keep talking about how tough you were "back in the day" It was really easy to beat someone and then 19p the whole thing, then laugh about it at the bar.
We are the real police. We deal with worse animals nowadays. The animal has gotten emboldened by the liberal media and society at the same time. The typical shi**head now has a better understanding of the law and his place in society. They understand that fighting the police and "society" can win them favor with the majority of the pansie a#$ america.
At every turn we are faced with animals challenging us. As well as an army of cameras behind them. We can no longer "beat em and leave em." We are left to do a thankless job otherwise face lawsuits, being arrested or even federal charges (cozzi).
The job is tougher now but believe me every copper wants to go out there and kick a#$ but it is just not possible.
You old timers with your mustaches and parted hair must have thought you were so tough. I'm telling you the hairgels are tougher. The animal now is a different breed. Smarter, stronger and emboldened by the media and society. You never had to go into court and automatically thought to be lying on the stand. At every turn no one believes us. We are looked at as the enemy yet we still overcome. We still check the animal at every turn.
Your generation had it easy because the country never viewed you as the enemy.
The Capt union sent out the ballots for them to vote whether they want to accept the City's half-assed plan for the XO shaft. Some of the Capts have drunk the koolaid believing McJersy’s pleas- I mean sales pitch when he "stopped by" their secret meeting for a beer with the boys the other night. Some of them don't realize they are getting greased for the poke. Some know it and are trying to prevent it, but others believe the BS line it’s the fast track to their command spot. HA! Fast track my ass. Wait- they’ll be lieutenants with less seniority than before they were handed the non-service rank of Capt. Those who now work for them will be getting better furloughs in 2013. Hahahahah- fools go ahead vote for it! Funny- the ballots were hand delivered by a beat car from 012 to all of the Captains in the middle of the night. Why?
12/06/2011 03:00:00 PM
Who cares about them?
I don't. Most, not all, are idiot merit hack asshats. It is a worthless unnecesary overpaid position.
One good thing...017 finally got new batteries and battery chargers for the radios.
I said fuck it and bought my own radio. It lats 2 tours without recharging and cost a total of $100.00
you gotta be kidding me.... where have you been when jody made all the command changes ... maybe and handful but certainly not most.
I am not talking about the exempt positions only. Phil Cline and his chicanery with the test answers to the in crowd and the bs merit promotions is what put this department in the spot it is in today. Sure JFED made changes, but all Jfed did was shuffle clines guys around, he most certainly didn't get rid of any of them, for crying out loud there are still 4 or 5 of Cline's guys on a list to be made Captian. Don't fool yourself Cline was as crooked as they get. Many of Clines guys shouldn't even be on this job let alone in a position of power.
Don't agree with the above post. Phil Cline is solely responsible for placing most of the current bosses in place. So, he wasn't so great was he ?
you gotta be kidding me.... where have you been when jody made all the command changes ... maybe and handful but certainly not most
12/06/2011 10:00:00 PM
I think what the poster meant was Cline merit promoted a vast majority of today's exempt into some level of exempt during his tenure. And once exempt always exempt, just keep moving on up by playing the game. Brown, Green, Cuello, Wysinger, Jackson, Williams,etc. - and these clowns have merit promoted many of today's exempt. Stupidity breeds stupidity. And yes, Cline and Hillard propogated most of it.
As these ideas along with other contract breakers were designed by Don O'Neil, one wonders how long O'neil will survive? Finally he told Mc Sup the truth, all this is covered by contract and you might lose big time......$$$$$$$$$. Way to go JUDAS O'Neil!
12/06/2011 08:34:00 PM
BTW, your turn signal has been on for the last 4 miles!
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I am a 60 year old retiree. This is one funny comment. We leave them on in case we decide to turn.
Thanks for the laugh.
08:34 I am a regular reader and am aware of whats happening on the CPD. All I read about is how are we going to handle the G8. I will tell you how, you are going to go out and do you job instead of complaining. All I read about is the security of the station, what if someone comes in and shoots me, you are a po and its a dangerous job, but you signed on for it. What do you want , security guards to protect the desk people, thats why a citizen would run into a police station , for protection, not to have some po say who is going to protect me.
12/06/2011 09:50:00 PM
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You sound like you're about eleven years old.
Don't read the police blog if it bothers you so much.
How we're going to handle the G8/Nato mess is of primary importance to us. This department hasn't seen an event like this since 1968 and we are undermanned, underprepared, underinformed, and our 'leadership' is completely clueless as to the scope of the pending disaster and/or how to even begin to address it.
Adults should be critically concerned with the G8/Nato events, because the rioting, looting and terrorism that go along with G8/Nato will cost millions in damage, destruction and interference with business and the local economy.
Yes, we're also a bit concerned with our own safety and security in the workplace, so get over it. When you're old enough to get a job, you'll understand better why we want to go home to our families safe, and intact.
Some threats in our day-to-day routine are unpredictable, and we deal with them as 'part of the job we signed on for'. But, deliberately leaving us vulnerable, or putting us in danger when it can be avoided with a few basic security measures, speaks volumes to a lack of respect or concern for us as human beings.
Now, turn out off the computer and get to bed before your mom and dad catch you reading the evil police blog again.
Sorry; meant to say turn out the lights and turn off the computer...
I figure your bedtime is, oh, about eight-thirty pm.
We'll worry about G8/Nato while you rest your little head on your soft little pillow.
The last good boss we had and who was truly for the working Officer was T. Hillard. Fat phil has his paw in the police memorial and if u dont believe that ask around not to mention all the merit jags he promoted including his irragont kid.
To the hairgel, the reason you're always challenged is because you never put hands on anyone, it's straight to the taser, or call the sgt. to make a decision. Thats the real reason.
Your generation had it easy because the country never viewed you as the enemy.
. . . and the whining continues
Between the 3:56 AM 12 Dec. comment about how rough you have it now as opposed to the good old days, and the other comment berating the retired officer about not reading the blog as much, and his comments about leadership; where are you officers coming from?
Do you actually think that I beleave that you are looking out for any one other than yourselves.
Right now I am one of the CPD's older vets 35 + yrs. All of those years were spent working in a field unit, never in an office.
I have witnessed many changes and times are very different now. The one thing that has remaind the same is the ability of the professional police officer to adapt, improvise, and over come to get the job done. And most of the younger officers feel the same way and have the same desire to do the job in a professional manner just as most of the older vets have through out their time on the job. You seem to think that everyone we encountered took a beating. Nothing could be further from the truth. I was there, don't believe all of the BS that goes arround. Start to use your brain and think about things. Maybe if you gave things a little thought you might not make the kind of comments that you made concerning the officers that came before you.
The two who made those comments gave little or no thought to what they wrote. Cool down and think about it before you open your mouth or write that comment or report. You might just survive and have a good time doing it.
Good Luck to all of the officers who will follow and do this job after I am gone. Stay close to each other, the friendships are the best part of the job.
Don't agree with the above post. Phil Cline is solely responsible for placing most of the current bosses in place. So, he wasn't so great was he ?
you gotta be kidding me.... where have you been when jody made all the command changes ... maybe and handful but certainly not most
and the two of them vastly increased the costs to the pension of the gold braid bill
"08:34 I am a regular reader and am aware of whats happening on the CPD. All I read about is how are we going to handle the G8. I will tell you how, you are going to go out and do you job instead of complaining. All I read about is the security of the station, what if someone comes in and shoots me, you are a po and its a dangerous job, but you signed on for it. What do you want , security guards to protect the desk people, thats why a citizen would run into a police station , for protection, not to have some po say who is going to protect me.
12/06/2011 09:50:00 PM"
Still guzzling the department issued kool-aid, huh boss? How much higher you think you are going to climb up that ladder? Go get your own event number and hide in the office. Oh yeah, shut the fuck up!
This goes out to Hairgels post..... Are you kidding you new rookie dumb ass fuck. How bout going to court and not getting paid. How bout only being able to carry over 200hrs of comp. Time into the new year. If you didn't use it you lost it. How bout never getting the weekend because they changed your D.O.G. How bout trying to get a watch to pick you up so you didn't stay on midnights forever (when we rotated). Ever hear of the black panther party asshole?they only wanted to kill the police any chance they got. How bout the FALN and their terrorist ways and anti police stance. How bout when coppers used to get sniped at on a weekly basis. How bout the riots of the 60's and the Humboldt Park riot of 1977. How bout radios only in the car and if you got into with some shithead you were fighting for you life. And don't forget no vests. No air-conditioning in the cars. You are a fucking TOOL,so keep it up and keep paying for my pension,while I take in the
sunshine. Now go get some time and and try getting a fucking clue kid......
I wish they would publish a streaming video that plainly says... "Go fuck yourself" because that's what they really think of us and this department.
Your generation had it easy because the country never viewed you as the enemy.
12/07/2011 03:56:00 AM
Hairgel, it is amazing to us that the we raised such a generation of "do-nothing" police. If you think that the civil rights marching citizens of the 60's and 70's didn't view the police as the enemy, you are certainly naive.
There is much more to being the real police than beating someone. We understood that you had to take control of any situation and we took pride in doing our job. We actually knew how to conduct investigations, even those of us who never left Patrol. Of course there were always "workers" and "dogs". But our "dogs" were better policemen that 90% of todays hairgels.
We had a blast and we kept the streets safe. The "hairgel" police will have no such legacy.
One good thing...017 finally got new batteries and battery chargers for the radios.
I said fuck it and bought my own radio. It lats 2 tours without recharging and cost a total of $100.00
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I seem to remember that there was something on our radios which could pinpoint our location for the dispatcher in case of a problem. Is that true, and if so, are you putting yourself in danger by using an aftermarket radio? I know I know it don't mean shit if the battery is out, but I mean with a working battery.
Don't fool yourself Cline was as crooked as they get. Many of Clines guys shouldn't even be on this job let alone in a position of power.
12/07/2011 06:07:00 AM
Oh Yeah? Unlike you I remembered where to send all the envelopes...
This dept needs to open up the monthly bids. You are fucking with officers lives and family. Obviously you dont care about any of us
Anonymous said...
-----------Hairgels----------------
you old timers comments are getting worse. you keep talking about how tough you were "back in the day" It was really easy to beat someone and then 19p the whole thing, then laugh about it at the bar.
We are the real police. We deal with worse animals nowadays. The animal has gotten emboldened by the liberal media and society at the same time. The typical shi**head now has a better understanding of the law and his place in society. They understand that fighting the police and "society" can win them favor with the majority of the pansie a#$ america.
At every turn we are faced with animals challenging us. As well as an army of cameras behind them. We can no longer "beat em and leave em." We are left to do a thankless job otherwise face lawsuits, being arrested or even federal charges (cozzi).
The job is tougher now but believe me every copper wants to go out there and kick a#$ but it is just not possible.
You old timers with your mustaches and parted hair must have thought you were so tough. I'm telling you the hairgels are tougher. The animal now is a different breed. Smarter, stronger and emboldened by the media and society. You never had to go into court and automatically thought to be lying on the stand. At every turn no one believes us. We are looked at as the enemy yet we still overcome. We still check the animal at every turn.
Your generation had it easy because the country never viewed you as the enemy.
12/07/2011 03:56:00 AM
Get over yourself, you hairgel pussy. We had it easy, eh? How the fuck would you know??
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't agree with the above post. Phil Cline is solely responsible for placing most of the current bosses in place. So, he wasn't so great was he ?
you gotta be kidding me.... where have you been when jody made all the command changes ... maybe and handful but certainly not most
12/06/2011 10:00:00 PM
I think what the poster meant was Cline merit promoted a vast majority of today's exempt into some level of exempt during his tenure. And once exempt always exempt, just keep moving on up by playing the game. Brown, Green, Cuello, Wysinger, Jackson, Williams,etc. - and these clowns have merit promoted many of today's exempt. Stupidity breeds stupidity. And yes, Cline and Hillard propogated most of it.
12/07/2011 06:28:00 AM
No matter what you say you have to agree at least Cline was "one of Chicago's very own," as opposed to the last 2!
"All I read about is the security of the station, what if someone comes in and shoots me, you are a po and its a dangerous job, but you signed on for it. What do you want , security guards to protect the desk people, thats why a citizen would run into a police station , for protection, not to have some po say who is going to protect me."
We're not talking about extraordinary measures here, just common sense security features that you find in any modern police station.
Take a look at any of the suburbs' stations or dispatch centers; fenced in parking lots with electric gates, key card entry, bullet resistant plexiglass, etc.
None of this is too much to ask.
Oneill had much input with the TRU and MSF fiscal. Great job screwing everyone. And who is responsible for not opening bids when the newly promoted sgts went to 016 and 020. Great bosses, unfortunately we can't get the old ones back
To: 12/06/2011. 08:34pm
You sir, are a grade A asshole. None of the statements made by the original poster were dumb, and if he did know how much things have changed, he wouldn't have said that. How about having some RESPECT for the people who have come before you? The guys and gals who have been there and done that the old school way, while you were swimming in your daddy's ballsack. Im only about 25% of my way to retirement, and I am still learning every day. How about you show some courtesy to the old timers, and listen to what they have to say instead of spouting off at the mouth as fast as possible. Sorry for the rant.
Your generation had it easy because the country never viewed you as the enemy.
12/07/2011 03:56:00 AM
Another useless and stupid arguement over which generation of cops had it the hardest. These same comments were made by my generation in 1968 when we came on. We worked one man cars, no portable radions, no safety vests and 8-10 officers killed each year. And, were were always viewed as the enemy. Truth be told, very few people like the cops. They think you are overpaid and lazy and corrupt, and the policies of city hall do nothing to dispel their thinking. Every cop in every era has it bad at times, no matter where you work, north side or south side, although I am a firm believer that if you work on the north side of the city your career will have a much smoother road. And, as someone who has been around for a long time and spent some of it working in administration, I can only tell you that if the city wants to make changes they will do so, in spite of what the contract states or what you may THINK the contract states. Their attitude is to let you file your grievance. The commander of labor Affairs should be an advisor to the superintendent and is not supposed to be the best friend of the rank and file By eliminating units and job titles ( or renaming them), the city has a distinct advantage in the grievance process. All of your bitching won't change that.
Put cpd in charge of cpd..... We have several very competent brilliant bosses but they are not utilized. Why because of clout...a shame. Biggest mistake Emmanuel made was going outside to pick his supe.
Of course there were always "workers" and "dogs". But our "dogs" were better policemen that 90% of todays hairgels.
We had a blast and we kept the streets safe. The "hairgel" police will have no such legacy.
12/07/2011 02:18:00 PM
Wow. Your penis must be fucking microscopic. Can I have your autograph Superman please? That might be the most pompous thing I have ever seen written. Crime statistics sat you are wrong. You sound like the shitheads that say "I make more than you, i make 40 grand a year." It pathetic that they think I give a fuck what they make, and even more pathetic that I actually make more than double what they do.
I've seen the future of this job and it is .......the hair gel police."...... Boy are we fucked....
>>>Anonymous said...
I'm so sick of the streaming videos saying "we care about you" and "stay safe" and "family first" and "your safety and well being is our #1 goal", blah blah blah. They could give a rats ass about any of us. What a fn' shame what this dept has become.
12/06/2011 04:14:00 PM<<<
Thank God for something...
We haven't seen a streaming video in almost a year...
The Smartboard is broken and the city is too cheap to repair or replace it...
Stay Safe, anyway... and get your family and friends to vote.
12/06/2011 05:11:00 PM
Oh my God!!! Say it isn't so. How will we ever survive without receiving that all important traing via a streaming video playing in the background(just so they can log it that we watched and received our training in case we get sued down the road, so the dept can say we were thoroughly trained) during roll call with the volume turned off.
Cmdr Salemme - A/5 gave a talk Wed - the move is still on ...
But I am not even sure if the tiny dancer even knows if the move is still on .... I don't think anyone knows
"They also received word there is no money for construction, desks, computers, or even chairs."
Uh...
Just as well. I can see all the chairs and stuff rolling off to one side because of the usual crumbling, off-level, graft-constructed floor anyway.
Maybe we can hook the whole thing up to The Great Bicycle Bridge, people whizzing right down the hallways...put in a Red Line stop too.
Chicago.
In regards to the psoting about government property being used for G*, it is surplus property that the dept. of defense can't use anymore, it is called the LESO program, That LESO stuff was brought into CPD by Lt. Ray Hamilton, he tried getting anything for free, some stuff was good stuff and given out to SWAT and MSF. but they have a TON of computers, ETC, Gun Racks sitting at Homan Square, MSF had an admin Sgt. who went all over the country picking up stuff , IAD audited it and I don't know what happened but this stuff is scattered all over Homan Square. Helmets sitting on the Dock . plenty of stuff that could be used.
To the ignorant citizen who stated we need to go out and do our job and protect them during the G8 summit. And stated we signed up for this dangerous job. First we did not sign up to be a target in our building or workplace. Should soldiers let the enemy behind their lines because they signed up for a dangerous job? You are a moron, I have a right to feel safe in my work building as do you or anyone else. BUT, you are correct about the fact that we did sign up for this dangerous job that you would never do and because we risk our lives everyday and was promised a pension and we paid into our pensions, just like you ordered us to go out and do our jobs, we are ordering you and the government to pay your debt to us.
We're going to have precincts and our Hill Streets will have the blues.
... and even more pathetic that I actually make more than double what they do.
well said hair gel
>>>Anonymous said...
I remember when we got a whole bunch of old donated chairs from the Dept. of Defense.
We are still using them 20 years later!
12/06/2011 03:31:00 AM<<<
They are probably very well made chairs, and MADE IN AMERICA.
In our district we had the Impound Garage stacked up with dozens of the broken office and Roll Call Room chairs that we go through like Kleenex.
They probably came from the Vanecko Office Furniture section of the Daley Crime Family. The worst are the ones in the Roll Call Room made with skinny steel frames. They were made to be easily arranged and stacked up to portable on the special furniture dolly kept in the corner.
They may do for a sedentary workforce with and average weight of no more than 185 pounds. But start having people with bigger asses (OK, I'm one of them), loaded with guns, ammo and body armor and they break like matchwood. More than one copper I know has been hurt when we heard the welds on these cheap pieces of crap snap.
I miss the old wooden benches in the one station I worked in, and the Board of Ed student desks at another.
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