FOP Sues ACLU
Well, not really, but we liked the way the headline looked. We'd pay to see that actually happen. In the meantime:
- The Fraternal Order of Police filed a legal motion Thursday with the ultimate goal of dismissing an ACLU lawsuit that accused the city of Chicago of depriving some inner-city neighborhoods of adequate police protection.
If a judge grants the union’s motion to intervene, the FOP plans to initially ask that the law firm of Sidley Austin LLP be disqualified from assisting the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois and, ultimately, that the case be dismissed.
“It’s horrible public policy if a single chancery judge is allowed to determine how the police department operates in the field and how they’re made up,” FOP lawyer Paul Geiger said. “That’s madness. It would be unlike any other big city in the United States.”
If Shortshanks or his predecessors had actually redrawn the beats and districts semi-regularly according to crime trends and population shifts, we wouldn't be having the discussion today.
But the truly amazing part of this lawsuit is that the ACLU has it all wrong. Where was SOS deployed? Mobile Strike Force operated where? Targeted Response? The "Jump Out" boys? Housing? Every large citywide unit, regardless of crime patterns, spent the majority of its time in the communities the ACLU insists are under-served.
But the truly amazing part of this lawsuit is that the ACLU has it all wrong. Where was SOS deployed? Mobile Strike Force operated where? Targeted Response? The "Jump Out" boys? Housing? Every large citywide unit, regardless of crime patterns, spent the majority of its time in the communities the ACLU insists are under-served.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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Publicity stunt by boy wonder. Fop has no business wasting our money on this. Let the city fight it.
Want to know the direction your FOP leans? Well it's nice that they have a new website but take a look at the company that designed and manages it, Watch Street consulting.
http://www.watchstreetconsulting.com/political-campaign-websites/
Now one would say who cares what company as long as the product is good right?
Well by giving this company you are connected and do support and agree in some way with their views.
Short list of the portfolio of this company:
Young Democrats of America
Harry Osterman
Proco Joe Moreno
Maria Antonia Berrios
Robyn Gabel
Elaine Nekritz
Matt Bogusz
Winograd
Bernard C Parks
Judge Ursula Hall
Edwin Reyes
Ramos for Judge of Cook County
Dr. Kamal Field Al-Basri
Clint Krislov
1st Ward Jesse Ruben Juarez
And my favorite.....Sharon "I get my drink on and disobey police orders" Dixon
A few have no dealings with us since they are out of state but learn about theses names. Some have pussed pension reforms. Some will slash your salaries and raise your taxes. And again, some will think they are higher then you disobey your police orders and get away with it.
Thank you again FOP for your CHANGE from the way the past administration ran.
Begs the question, Why is FOP Wasting my Union Dues regarding a manpower deployment issue? Isnt that what Corporation Counsel is suppposed to be doing?
O.T. - Lt. A.S. (024) keeps her B.S. up. B.R. is gone A.S. He can not save you anymore. B.R. wanted to save you, but A.S. you screwed yourself. A patrol person had more clout than you A.S., that is why you put back in Patrol. You are destined to remain in Patrol, because you are arrogant.
It's all bullshit. It's the "legal fees for the Liars, I mean lawyers that this is all about !!!!
I was one on the first jump out boys, now that was fun!!!
ABSOLUTELY! It's like the ACLU was viewing conditions in the ghetto through Bizarro glasses. There were/are far more officers in these ghetto districts than the nice ones. The discrepancy between these districts are the CITIZENS that call the police. Guys who have worked in both slow and fast districts will tell you.........yuppies hesitate to call the police with REAL emergencies and then apologize profusely when the cars show up. Ghetto dwellers don't hesitate to call the PO-LEECE for EVERYTHING! Christ! I just went to a call last week in the ghetto where eight-month pregnant momma called because the 4 and 6 year olds were running around the house "drivin me crazy!" THAT'S why we're always in a RAP! Ugh.
Dont forget all the "slow districts" that are stripped of man power each night to send to those areas of high crime. Wheres the ACLU law suit for leaving these districts severely undermanned? Robbing peter to pay Paul. But thats where the white folks live and not on the ACLU's agenda.
Damned if we do and damned if we don't!
More like the over-served and paid for by the under-served.
No, all you ghetto lifestyle-enabling assholes, (that'd be you, ACLU and Co.) there aren't less poleeseses in your 'hoods, just a lot less police doing any type of proactive policing.
You see, your crop has flourished in the environment that you created and now it's time to reap what you've sown. The majority of the men and women on the front lines have gotten the message loud and clear and don't mind leaving the savages to their own devices, sans for protecting our own and what's left of the people who actually deserve what we have to offer.
Until the pendulum swings back our way, most of us don't mind being reactionary, arriving after the fact to pick up the pieces and feign interest/compassion while cutting you a report; enjoy believing that the worthless piece of paper I just handed you somehow makes you the victor in today's concocted, unneccessary and totally avoidable 'drama'. Now fold it into quarters and put it into your jacket pocket with the six other reports "the police ain't done nuffin about".
The REAL citizens of this city - you know, the ones paying their taxes, working a "pay check paying' job" and raising children that will actually be productive members of society - are starting to see what the police have known all along.
And they're starting to get more and more vocal as they get more and more pissed. THEY are the ones NOT getting adequate police services, never mind other city services commensurate to what they contribute via taxes to the Black Hole called the City of Chicago. Reference the folks in 016 sounding off their concerns over the uptick in burglaries ever since a certain segment of society began arriving once the projects folded. They're also demanding to know where all "their" police are, only they're justified in making this inquiry.
The police are vilified while the entitled scum of the Earth is pacified and given more credence and legitimacy than ever before thanks to the likes of the ACLU. The police will survive - it's what we do best. Self-preservation is the name of the game until this ride comes full-circle. Until that time, the unappreciative, police-hating non-contributors can get the police service they deserve while the ACLU blows me.
O.T. A fly on the wall at 35th told me that the bosses are afraid that we won't have enough Tier 1 officers on the front lines to handle the G8/NATO protests. Starting early next year they're creating a 200 P.O. force, and the old MSF'ers will be offered the chance to be brought back. They figure they already have the training and equipment. After the city burns, the unit will remain to work as summer saturation teams (West and South). They're looking at housing the teams out of the current Area 4 after it's cleared out.
Sidley & Austin...The Obama's old law firm.
The ACLU is suing Chicago why do we care the fop should not be getting involved. Stick to the areas that count pension and healthcare the rest is bullshit
004th District guy,
Here are Things not to do when working a part time job:
1. Work in a place where you have to actually be the Police.
2. Do security in public housing.
3. Attempt to do a traffic stop when you're driving the security company's car.
4. Get involved in a vehicle pursuit while in the security company's vehicle after the vehicle you attempted to stop in the security company's car refuses to stop.
5. Pursue the vehicle in the security company's car through two Police districts.
6. Lose the fleeing car
7. Call 911 and ask for assistance from on duty Police Officers with your stupidity.
8. Tell the responding Officers on scene, "The guy wouldn't stop, I think he might have had a gun!"
9. Tell the Officers on scene "I called my buddy who is on duty in 004 to run the plate on that car for me!"
10. Tell the responding Officers to put out a flash message for a car that took off on you in another district, that you shouldn't have tried to stop, and then not pursued because you think the driver might have had a gun.
You are truly fortunate that the right people responded to your mess. Keep doing dumb stuff, and you won't be around much longer.
You are a dumbass.
Thank you again FOP for your CHANGE from the way the past administration ran.
What's the differece? Fulla Shit is Fulla Shit no matter who it is!
O.T. A fly on the wall at 35th told me that the bosses are afraid that we won't have enough Tier 1 officers...
What the F&^$% is a Tier one officer, am I one? Can I put it on my resume?
Want to know the direction your FOP leans? Well it's nice that they have a new website but take a look at the company that designed and manages it, Watch Street consulting.
http://www.watchstreetconsulting.com/political-campaign-websites/
Now one would say who cares what company as long as the product is good right?
Well by giving this company you are connected and do support and agree in some way with their views.
Short list of the portfolio of this company:
Young Democrats of America
Harry Osterman
Proco Joe Moreno
Maria Antonia Berrios
Robyn Gabel
Elaine Nekritz
Matt Bogusz
Winograd
Bernard C Parks
Judge Ursula Hall
Edwin Reyes
Ramos for Judge of Cook County
Dr. Kamal Field Al-Basri
Clint Krislov
1st Ward Jesse Ruben Juarez
And my favorite.....Sharon "I get my drink on and disobey police orders" Dixon
A few have no dealings with us since they are out of state but learn about theses names. Some have pussed pension reforms. Some will slash your salaries and raise your taxes. And again, some will think they are higher then you disobey your police orders and get away with it.
Thank you again FOP for your CHANGE from the way the past administration ran.
This is not good at all. If Flop is in any way tied to politics in Chicago we are Fu--ed.
Publicity stunt by boy wonder. Fop has no business wasting our money on this. Let the city fight it.
12/02/2011 12:10:00 AM
Where do you live numb nuts? Are we not forced to live here to? What bids have been opened in the past 3 or 4 years allowing senior officers the chance to bid to calmer waters?
"Bogus as Hell said...
004th District guy,
Here are Things not to do when working a part time job:
1. Work in a place where you have to actually be the Police.
2. Do security in public housing.
3. Attempt to do a traffic stop when you're driving the security company's car.
4. Get involved in a vehicle pursuit while in the security company's vehicle after the vehicle you attempted to stop in the security company's car refuses to stop.
5. Pursue the vehicle in the security company's car through two Police districts.
6. Lose the fleeing car
7. Call 911 and ask for assistance from on duty Police Officers with your stupidity.
8. Tell the responding Officers on scene, "The guy wouldn't stop, I think he might have had a gun!"
9. Tell the Officers on scene "I called my buddy who is on duty in 004 to run the plate on that car for me!"
10. Tell the responding Officers to put out a flash message for a car that took off on you in another district, that you shouldn't have tried to stop, and then not pursued because you think the driver might have had a gun.
You are truly fortunate that the right people responded to your mess. Keep doing dumb stuff, and you won't be around much longer.
You are a dumbass.
12/02/2011 03:48:00 AM"
Hey, Office
I'm gonna take a stab at this but based on what you posted and the fact that you're assigned to 004, I'm guessing you're referring to the "security firm" based in a suburb that was hired by our illustrious Aldercreature Anthony "Looking For A Larger Payday and Hate The Police" Beale. He allows these clowns to do essentially whatever they want. They are supposed to patrol only certain segments of the 005th District around strip malls, Michigan Avenue and other places Beale designates. What do you want to bet that there is already a contract in place for them to work the new "shopping center" that is being built in the 9th Ward across from Area 2? These guys don't have the powers of arrest, so how do they effectively deal with the bustouts who are Beale's "constituents"? That entire contingent are dumbasses and it ain't gonna get any better. They are all wanna be coppers who work for one of the more greedy, corrupt and integrity challenged individuals who was ever elected to public office in this city.
Publicity stunt by boy wonder. Fop has no business wasting our money on this. Let the city fight it.
12/02/2011 12:10:00 AM
Right...because the City fights every bullshit lawsuit filed against the City.
Boy wonder has to pick and choose....I like this choice.
The Ghetto ratz call the police for everything under the sun. They do in fact get much more police service than folks in the Northwest and Southwest sides. When is the last time anyone reading this post called the police? Many probably never or a few times. This bogus suit comes at the same time they are redrawing maps for aldermanic wards. Go figure.
Mayor Rahm Emanuel knew he was stepping into the lion’s den when he accepted Sr. Rosemary Connelly’s invitation to speak at the annual fund-raising breakfast for Misericordia — right after cutting off free water for Chicago’s non-profits.
The Rev. Jack Clair opened the breakfast for the North Side home for 600 children and adults with disabilities by saying, “Thank you, God, for the gift of water.” He paused. “Oh, it’s not a gift anymore.”
Immediately after Emanuel proposed plugging a city budget hole by ending the practice of not charging non-profits such as Misericordia for water, aldermen asked how he would deal with Connelly, whose ability to put the arm on people for donations rivals Emanuel’s. Emanuel has always admitted being afraid of her.
“Every time I met Rahm in public, he told me he was afraid of me,” Connelly said.
“The last time I met him, right before the inauguration, he said, and I quote — please remember the bad word used is his not mine — ‘You scare me s-*-*-*-l-e-s-s,’” Connelly said, spelling out the last word of the quote.
The audience roared with laughter.
“To show you how courageous this man is, despite his fear, he is going to charge Mirsericordia for water, which will add to our projected $13 million debt,” she said to more laughter. “We are one of the top users of water in Chicago. You see, we are very clean. The 610 children and adults along with staff who live here, use much water, especially those who are non-ambulatory and can do nothing for themselves. Sometimes we have to bathe them several times a day.”
Looking at the mayor, she said, “Now, that should make an impression.”
Misericordia’s annual water bill is $350,000. Thursday’s fund-raiser brought in $100,000, which should cover the bill under Emanuel’s five-year phase-in which requires non-profits to pay 20 percent of the tab in the first year.
As the mayor took the podium, she gave him a kiss and said, “God bless you, Rahm.”
Emanuel shook his head and said, “Prior to this event, I thought Jewish mothers had a corner on the market as it relates to guilt.”
Emanuel said his legendary prowess at getting people to cough up money pales in comparison to Connelly’s power.
“I do want to say where my fear of Sr. Rosemary comes from,” Emanuel said. Back when he was a congressman, he offered to get Sr. Rosemary a $500,000 congressional earmark for Misericordia.
“Sr. Rosemary indicated to me that was not adequate, which is why it ended up being north of $500,000,” Emanuel said.
It got to the point that when Connelly called, Emanuel would tell a staffer, “Just ask her for a number and a range. When it comes to fund-raising, I know when my pocket’s picked. Somebody else handle it. The person who taught me, ‘No, that’s not good enough,’ is Sr. Rosemary. So for all of you in the room that think I’m a hard fund-raiser, where I learned that lesson, right over here,” he said, pointing to Connelly.
Of course, Emanuel already had earned his reputation as a take-no-prisoners fund-raiser in the Daley and Clinton administrations, long before his years as a congressman.
Connelly explained how nuns learn to put fear into people.
“Teaching, you had 50 students in your classroom,” she said. “You had two types of students: those you knew would be good and just people because you have a part in convincing them that God loves them. … But there were always a few you were not convinced. … If you didn’t want them to end up serving time, the fear of God was the only motivation. For them, the nuns were the messenger who represented God — who had the power to send them to hell.”
That brought more laughter from the donors, just about all of whom except Emanuel raised their hands when asked if they had been taught by nuns.
GOTTA LOVE THOSE NUNS THEY BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF ME AND MADE ME A BETTER COPPER, CAUSE I KNOW WHAT A REAL BEATING IS VERSE A PIMP SLAP !!!
FTO JOE
I believe the term is , "You get what you pay for.". In my opinion, a community that does not have to pay a high property should not expect the best services. You should not expect a $1000 meal for $1.
FOP suing or not this is how Tiny Dancer will get around all the political hot potatoes. He will have some entity sue, although it will appear that he has nothing to do with it. The case will be heard in the Circuit Court of CROOK County, i.e. the fix is already in. When the decent tax paying citizens start complaining Tiny Dancer will say it was a court order and there is nothing he can do about it.
I applaud F.O.P.'s willingness to stand up for us and the decent taxpaying citizens, but you are fighting a battle that has already been decided.
Every time shields gives an interview he embarasses every member . He is horrible on camera.
Great job voting this idiot in.
The ACLU is suing Chicago why do we care the fop should not be getting involved. Stick to the areas that count pension and healthcare the rest is bullshit
12/02/2011 03:13:00 AM
Another retiree heard from
004th District guy,
Here are Things not to do when working a part time job:
1. Work in a place where you have to actually be the Police.
2. Do security in public housing.
3. Attempt to do a traffic stop when you're driving the security company's car.
4. Get involved in a vehicle pursuit while in the security company's vehicle after the vehicle you attempted to stop in the security company's car refuses to stop.
5. Pursue the vehicle in the security company's car through two Police districts.
6. Lose the fleeing car
7. Call 911 and ask for assistance from on duty Police Officers with your stupidity.
8. Tell the responding Officers on scene, "The guy wouldn't stop, I think he might have had a gun!"
9. Tell the Officers on scene "I called my buddy who is on duty in 004 to run the plate on that car for me!"
10. Tell the responding Officers to put out a flash message for a car that took off on you in another district, that you shouldn't have tried to stop, and then not pursued because you think the driver might have had a gun.
You are truly fortunate that the right people responded to your mess. Keep doing dumb stuff, and you won't be around much longer.
You are a dumbass.
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The officers that continue to respond to his calls and arrest the people he detains are not much better too. Think before you lock someone up. In the long run it might save you a lot of grief.
I thought you may be interested in this. I cant wtite as well as you but i try.
http://19thwardpolitics.blogspot.com/2011/12/blogger-exclusive-taxpayers-on-hook-for.html
Blogger Exclusive. Taxpayers on hook for Rahm's family to attend Hip Hop Concert!
It was 1-Dec-11 and two CPD cops took extra precautions tonight at their mediocre paying security side job at the U.C. The usual violent hip hop concert was back in town. As this Jay-Z kanye concert turned out to be relatively calm compared to past concerts, the disturbing incident actually included Mayor Rahm Emanuel. Mayor Emaunuel has preached fiscal sacrifice to other public officials in reguards to bloated Security details. But the sacrifice does not include him or his own family. Sitting on stage left three rows up was Mayor Emanuel's middle age son surrounded by a Presidential like Security detail of ivory in a sea of chocolate. Thats right, the taxpayer was paying so little Rahm could attend his first Hip Hop Concert. The usual Security at the U.C was told to keep an eye on that section as so the big time VIP in attendence was kept protected. Was it not Rahm Emanuel who preached to Former Mayor Daley and Ed Burke about this very topic. Well my friends who work at the U.C were told by their superiors to keep this hush-hush. So we will keep this one too ourselves!
O.T. To the P.O's from 3rd watch / 021..... THANK-YOU !! for removing the Homeless guy on Wentworth Ave. U know were !.. ODPO
The FOP represents us, and in turn our families. Since the ACLU has deceded to start a was with the police, in this case , taking away what the little peotection thay have left. I say, sure go ahead. Its about time the union we elected started getting proactive and this could just be the start.
Instead of calling the union names, we should start getting behind them and get a stronger union, which gives us a better barganing position.
Do not let the city hall and emplty holster types divide us.
It has happened too many times already.
Those of you criticizing FOP for joining this lawsuit are off the mark.
First of all: Why is ACLU suing for rights violation in Cook County Circuit Court? And Chancery court to boot?
The purpose of this suit is to erase seniority rights to bid for units, taking the department back 25 years.
Theres something shifty afoot.
The officer working security who decided to engage in a police action, pursuit, while off duty is really uninformed or pretty dumb. Someone should tell the guy that when you work security the department will not cover for you if things go bad, such as injury or property damage. You are considered an agent of the security company. The department will fight all claims that you make.
Anonymous said...
Begs the question, Why is FOP Wasting my Union Dues regarding a manpower deployment issue? Isnt that what Corporation Counsel is suppposed to be doing?
12/02/2011 12:26:00 AM
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Not to nitpick, but here is another dope that is trying to sound intelligent by using a phrase of which he has no clue as to the meaning. I suggest that you look up "begs the question"(Dictionary.com)and learn that there is very little opportunity to use it in normal conversation, unless you spend a lot of time talking about debating.
Stripping 016 of manpower on a daily basis isn't questioned? The amount of the tax bill should 'entitle' us here on beat 1621 some protection after sundown. How about faxing daily lineups to the media and see where it goes.
Besides all those Shortshank exempt promotions that created specialized unit bosses, now we're cutting back.
Who is FOP blasting ? Is it about manpower or clout?
"FOP Sues ACLU"
Now THAT is funny!
I know all about LT A.S B.S an I would sure love to know what the b@*ch did now. Please share
O.T. - Lt. A.S. (024) keeps her B.S. up. B.R. is gone A.S. He can not save you anymore. B.R. wanted to save you, but A.S. you screwed yourself. A patrol person had more clout than you A.S., that is why you put back in Patrol. You are destined to remain in Patrol, because you are arrogant.
12/02/2011 12:41:00 AM
WAY TO GO Mike Shields. Hopefully it will work. If not, at least you had some balls, and tried to stand up to those Commies. And FOP, quit supporting ALL Democommunist Politicians and groups with my dues money.
98% of Violet Crime is in Black and Mexican Neighborhoods,So 98% of the Police should only be in those Neighborhoods? How about put the Cops where people pay Taxes.
3:48am ya just screwed that off duty copper , mccarthy will have iad lookin into this now
keep this kind of crap off the blog
The new unit being formed is a fact. Its a joke, but a fact. Youre in idiot if you volunteer. They dont care about you and after treating you like a child for the next six months and use you for the g8, youll be dumped to the curb. They have continually done it in the past and theyll do it again
SCC, did you hear that McNut tried to fight a po at narcotics Xmas party ? If true, what a dick head.
Anonymous said...
Publicity stunt by boy wonder. Fop has no business wasting our money on this. Let the city fight it.
12/02/2011 12:10:00 AM
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I am just guessing here, but I don't think the city wants to fight it. The city wants to lose. They have always, since Weiss anyway, to put most of our guys in the ghetto, and let places like 016 fend for themselves.
If the city loses then they have an out.
Why don't you at least pretend you have some kind of brain genius.
Couldn't agree more with the statement "why is the union wasting our money on this." This is the city problem and let their lawyers address the suit. If the city cant fight and win it, do you really believe the FOP is going to change . Seems the FOP gets involved in stuff they shouldn't, but doesnt get involved in stuff they should
Anonymous said...
Publicity stunt by boy wonder. Fop has no business wasting our money on this. Let the city fight it.
12/02/2011 12:10:00 AM
YOU GOT THAT RIGHT!!! FOP needs to pay lawyer friends some of your dues money!
OT. Effective 01Jan2012. Alcohol testing will be part of the random drug test for PO's. Check appendix T of the current fop contract. Don't get jammed up
West Side.....I usually can't stand your overdrawn, incoherent, salt box babblings about how you've done everything there is to do as a policeman. But today's post, SPOT ON.
Publicity stunt by boy wonder. Fop has no business wasting our money on this. Let the city fight it.
12/02/2011 12:10:00 AM
Greg, stay off the blog. Election's over.
Thanks to the ACLU, Loevy and Loevy Law Offices, and the Peoples Law Office!
I'm a Full time, Retired Chicago Police Officer working on the watch on the Westside, who just don't give a damn about Westsiders that want to do harm to each other!
I 19-Paul everything out here now and do "no proactive" Police work!
Fuck you! RAHM! and Mc Stupid!
Julio Cuernovaca
Anybody hear about the "TOWN DRUNK OTIS AKA JERRY McCARTHY" GETTING INTO WITH A P.O. AT THE HYATT LAST NIGHT DURING THE ORGANIZED CRIME CHRISTMAS PARTY!!! The p.o. had to be pulled away from OTIS,JERRY while he was swearing at the p.o.!!! RAHM, nice pick!!!!!
Typical heavy districts.
"I can't get the pop-top off my Malt liquor - send help."
Callers on Drugs-
"I think there is a bear in the sewer. I heard it growl. I knows there's gots to be a bear down there. Now send the PO-Leece."
"Yes. I took some pills. I don't know what dey was, but I am seeing werewolves in my kitchen. PLEASE BO-LIEVE me. Dey be walkin by the TV set.
"My GOD Damn Barbeque is on fire. Send the Fire Department. Where? In my hallway, dat's where I'm cookin up my ribs. It be too cold to cook outside."
"Help me. This Viaduct just hit my car. It came out of nowhere and I'm stuck."
And Elvis sang....."In the Ghetto".
Why is FOP spending money to defend the city?
SCC - when will you be starting a thread about G_mac and his challenging a cop at the Gang X-mas party last nite?
initially ask that the law firm of Sidley Austin LLP be disqualified from assisting the American Civil Liberties Union of Illinois
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Sidley and Austin is a BIG TIME corporate law firm. One of their clients was the Arthur Andersen accounting firm, the notorious Enron accountants. Also AA did allot of no-bid work for the City. S&A defends blue chip firms like Microsoft, British Petrollium, General Electric, etc.
They have many former top level former govt workers on staff. There had former Bush White House attys on staff. Former US Atty Scott Lazar, of Austin 7 fame, was there. Also S&A's members ranked #2 behind those of Goldman Sachs for dollars donated to Obama '08.
Their former Exe Managing Parter R. Eden Martin is now heading up the Civic Foundation, the group that is trying to kill OUR pensions.
Hate to sound paranoid, but sounds like there are powerful forces aiming at us....
Anonymous said...
O.T. -...You are destined to remain in Patrol, because you are arrogant.
12/02/2011 12:41:00 AM
Not that there's anything wrong with Patrol.
Equal police protection by size of population, not calls for service. The ACLU needs to spend money on community programs to help stop the violence. The community that needs more police service needs to take ownership of there bad behavior and fix the problem. Remember it takes a village not a police department.
You ask "Why is FOP spending money to defend the city?". Because the city will cave in and let the ACLU get there way and we all know it. WAY TO GO FOP!
Anonymous said...
SCC - when will you be starting a thread about G_mac and his challenging a cop at the Gang X-mas party last nite?
12/02/2011 03:15:00 PM
More BS rumor about Gmac or not? Do tell if true.
Anonymous said...
Anybody hear about the "TOWN DRUNK OTIS AKA JERRY McCARTHY" GETTING INTO WITH A P.O. AT THE HYATT LAST NIGHT DURING THE ORGANIZED CRIME CHRISTMAS PARTY!!! The p.o. had to be pulled away from OTIS,JERRY while he was swearing at the p.o.!!! RAHM, nice pick!!!!!
12/02/2011 03:03:00 PM
Come on lets hear the story. Who was there to see this. And what was it about?
Anonymous said...
OT. Effective 01Jan2012. Alcohol testing will be part of the random drug test for PO's. Check appendix T of the current fop contract. Don't get jammed up
12/02/2011 01:04:00 PM
Can we just say we had to drink because of an emergency and refuse the test? I know it's in the contract, but the city seems to disregard it, so we may as well too.
Anonymous said...
O.T. A fly on the wall at 35th told me that the bosses are afraid that we won't have enough Tier 1 officers...
What the F&^$% is a Tier one officer, am I one? Can I put it on my resume?
12/02/2011 05:27:00 AM
Jesus! Over 26 years on and they never told me what tier I was on! How do I get this info? I now must know what tier I am.
Anonymous said...
Those of you criticizing FOP for joining this lawsuit are off the mark.
First of all: Why is ACLU suing for rights violation in Cook County Circuit Court? And Chancery court to boot?
12/02/2011 09:36:00 AM
Look at who the judge is and see what you can find out about the judge.
We need more poles to adjudicate disputes over 40 ouncers and more squads to drive little Leroy to school.
Why not simply put the 2nd watch coppers in school buses? And allow a slap in the face and kick in the ass.
01:04 so are steroids part of the random drug testing starting 1 Jan 12 covered under appendix T also
It IS true. G_mac took his jacket off and challenged a cop to a fight while shouting "Say it to my face" last night at the Christmas party in the Hyatt. How much you want to be that those security cameras were erased today?
OT...rumors flying that McNuts was at the OCD X-mas party enjoying himself...and was about to get into a fight with a PO over....who was stronger..football players or rugby players...how soon before the PO gets dumped to 005???
Too bad the P.O. from unit 189 didnt knock the shit out McDumbfuck. He easily could have pounded him. The supt is a bad drunk. EAP are u listening........
Why is the FOP using our dues money to fight a battle that the Corporation COunsel whould be fighting?
Why doesn't the FOP sue over unsafe manpower levels that are placing PO's lives in danger?
The manpower crisis is the issue!
It affects all of us throughout the entire city.
What are they calling the police marine unit for? This is fire department captain turf....are you looking for the CFD cap. to kick the .... out of someone again? WTF?
OT:
Police found a person's body in the Chicago River downtown midday today.
The body was taken out of the water near the Wells Street Bridge, 222 N. Wells St., about 12:15 p.m., said Chicago Police News Affairs Officer Robert Perez.
The Police Marine Unit was called to the scene a little before noon.
HMMM
THE CITY CAN CLOSE DISTRICT NO GRIEVANCE POSSIBLE.
THE CITY CLOSES THE DISTRICT THEN FORCES ALL OFFICERS NO MATTER WHAT SENIORITY TO WORK IN A SHITTY DISTRICT. NO GRIEVANCE!
THE CITY CLOSES AREAS AND MOVES DETECTIVES TO GUESS WHAT SHITTY AREAS AND AGAIN NO GRIEVANCE!
CITY CREATES UNITS TRICK HUNDREDS OF OFFICERS THEN DISBANDS THE UNITS AND DOESNT RETURN THE OFFICER TO THEIR ORIGINAL DISTRICTS. THEY ARE THEN SENT TO .... SHIT DISTRICTS.
NOW THE FOP PUT IN PAPER WORK TO HALT COURT PROCEEDING ON WHAT THE CITY CAN DO ABOUT MANPOWER.
BEATS THE HELL OUT OF ME NEGOTIATE THE NEXT CONTRACT AND START ASKING FOR THESE THING AND FORGET ABOUT SILLY LAWSUITS.
SCC - when will you be starting a thread about G_mac and his challenging a cop at the Gang X-mas party last nite?
12/02/2011 03:15:00 PM
Maybe if or when SCC gets some reliable info or something worth starting a thread about. Seems like you are the only person to know about this incident. Maybe you would care to share a little more info?
Check it out, its on breaking news,a PO recently locked up pleads guilty and is talking in Indiana
SCC - when will you be starting a thread about G_mac and his challenging a cop at the Gang X-mas party last nite?
12/02/2011 03:15:00 PM
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What happened????? U obviously know, fill us in.
SCC -
Here is the real deal about last night.
NAGIS Party at the Hyatt and G-Mac shows up, not sure if it was announced or not, but he comes there.
During the course of the evening G_mac gets into a discussion with a 189 guy. The discussion elevates to a loud argument and then it escalates into physical assault grounds when G-Mac tells the 189 guy to come out with him.
Out the set of doors and in front of many, my self included, G-Mac (who has now taken off his jacket) starts the confrontation and screams at the 189 guy to "say it to my face".
The two were separated by some of the more mature drinkers and party goers who were present.
It appears that the argument/physical confrontation started with G-Mac's masculinity being challenged by a rugby player, who is tougher than a football player.
No crap, these two morons were as close as you can be to going to blows, about who was tougher. Grade school stupid stuff. Yet, we have this New York moron here, the "leader" of 10,000, who wants to challenge a lowly guy from 189.
It is So damn funny, but yet, it is SO damn sad. I heard that they had all the NAGIS bosses in 189 today and that they were addressing the 189 guy.
No word on if anyone was addressing the real idiot in all of this, G-Mac.
Nice choice Rahm.
OT
School Closings
So we won't close these schools until after the clouted speed trap camera outfit installs and bills the city for the installation of said cameras to "protect the children" -- that will no longer be going there?
Right?
I think it would be a lot cheaper and it would enable the city to save money if we just closed all the schools.
No schools -- no speed trap camera's needed either! Look at all that money saved. Savings is good!
Savings all around.
Save on the buildings, save on the teachers, save on kids getting hit by cars and oh yeah shot at and hospitalized and maybe killed.
There would by no more 911 calls because lil' joey doesn't want to go to school today. No need for P.U's to patrol the halls. See that..Savings all over and we can use that savings to expand the alderman's security detail and drivers.
It's a win-win.
All that testing and measuring being done and for what? There are no jobs to be had to apply any of that knowledge. China and India or some third world country will work for less. So lets just stop the madness. The building of false hopes and dreams that hard work will pay off in the end. No it won't stop the lies. It's who you know not what you know.
Close all the schools and stop wasting money. 22.5 people apply for each job that is allegedly open today. The so-called best and brightest have failed us. We are unwilling or unable to employ the educated people that we have now.
All we're doing is suckering people into college loans that place the students in a state of indentured servitude working with a masters degree at the WalMart-like shovel-ready job for the next 40 years trying to pay off a government school loan. It's indentured servitude
They want to allocate our resources based on the calls for service. It's a complete bs argument. If these ghetto neighborhoods would be forced to get jobs instead of considering their welfare check income then they wouldn't have time to call the police a hundred times a day. They would be at work. But work is the dirtiest 4 letter word in their vocabulary. When you sit at home and drink malt liquor all day long eventually you get bored and want to see the policecar go by. I can't count how many times i've been told by these muts to, "do yo job!" when they've never had and will never have a legitmate job in their lifetime. Not because they can't get one regardless of what the bleeding democrats might say but because they know the government will support their savage lifestyle if they don't have one.
OT
SCC. I don't know if there has been any mention about this but there is a youtube video with a teacher from orr high school protesting at occupy chicago holding a sign that says CPD stop shooting my students. You can find it by looking up west side teacher and the video comes up. The video is disturbing and CPS should fire her based off of it. Not sure if it's thread worthy but I know everyone at work that i've showed it to is glad they saw it.
OT
Mayor Bloomberg was bragging about having the seventh largest army in the world the other day -- meaning his police force, .
It's like we have little mayoral dictators now with private armies now.
Maybe we should stop calling states the states and call them tribal communities with warlords leading the show ya know?
Combine that with a bill passing the US Senate with 60 yea votes that if signed will enable the US Military to detain anyone indefinitely without charges and without a trial -- I think we're in BIG trouble!
So who's side are you gonna choose?
Protect the US constitution and our freedoms or some mayoral dictator using the guise of their bogus city ordinance code violations as a farce to protect the citizens health and safety?
This John McCain authored bill gets to become law they can charge any of us as being a terrorist, don't have to show you any evidence, lock you up, no trial, no charges, all it needs to be is suspicion and you're never seen or heard from again!
Washington must be totally freaked out about losing their power I guess. Why else would 60 US senators vote for this thing?
Think about it.
You may have to make a decision to turn your weapons on your own citizens soon as the power hungry clout becomes more insecure over losing their money.. They're freaking out.
Can someone whisper to Mr. Michael "Wonder Boy" Shields that his demeanor on camera is for shit? Stop looking so angry all the time, Mike.
--a citizen
Anonymous said...
Check it out, its on breaking news,a PO recently locked up pleads guilty and is talking in Indiana
12/02/2011 05:56:00 PM
As stated earlier there is much, much more to come on this topic at hand.
Hey... Word is that the newly formed CPD Rugby team is seeing a huge spike in membership!
Thanks Gerry!
You're the neatest....
"Want to know the direction your FOP leans? Well it's nice that they have a new website but take a look at the company that designed and manages it, Watch Street consulting.
http://www.watchstreetconsulting.com/political-campaign-websites/
Now one would say who cares what company as long as the product is good right?"
WTF...so FOP hires a politically connected firm to build the website?!! So let's look at what we have...
Aguilar is on the website committee, he's buddies with Moreno, this Watch Street Consulting did Moreno's (and a ton of other politician's) websites!!
What most don't realize is they paid for another website that was never launched or used! It was complete, functional, and looked just as good. So WTF! Why did they hire this company...
hmmmm
WASTE OF OUR DUES $$$$$$$
Where's the Beef with the city over contractual issues Dah?????
Loser shields trojan Horse
Publicity stunt by boy wonder. Fop has no business wasting our money on this. Let the city fight it
-Do you go to meetings? If not you don;t know anything shut your mouth
O.T. - Lt. A.S. (024) keeps her B.S. up. B.R. is gone A.S. He can not save you anymore. B.R. wanted to save you, but A.S. you screwed yourself. A patrol person had more clout than you A.S., that is why you put back in Patrol. You are destined to remain in Patrol, because you are arrogant
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B.R. nice job forcing your way into being "honored" at 24 xmas party. Isn't 19 going to "honor" you? You did retire out of A3, didn't you? And you did retire.There was that gathering at Mannys. Everyone knows you are short but, showing up at stations and xmas parties to try and make people kiss your ass just shows how little you are. Sell the house in Lincolnwood and move to Boca.
ot: I want to say a big thank you to beat 812 and I think it was beat 843 on third watch for helping my girl friend and I at a car accident at 60th and Narragansett! She did end up suffering a fractured thumb, but your professionalism is greatly appreciated! I hope you continue being blessed in your life and helping others as much as us.
HATER said...
HMMM
THE CITY CAN CLOSE DISTRICT NO GRIEVANCE POSSIBLE.
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Hey "HATER"
You are a moron.
First of all, turn off your damn CAPS button you twit.
Second of all, the city/department has not done anything yet other than close a few lockups.
IF and when the department starts cutting and slashing YOU will see grievances fly.
Until then, drink a bottle of NyQuil and fuckin' go pass out somewhere.
As a po, not a fan of our mayor but all kids are off limits. His kids didn't choose to be in the public eye so I say leave them alone. I have to be honest, if I were a politician, I would have security with my kid at a concert too. Have actually met his kids a few times while working in plain clothes and they are very nice kids and polite.
Wow Leo is pissed about the mcnuts incident that officer better watch out!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y526TwapkAE
So what if there was a "to do" at a christmas party, keep that shit off the blog, for christ sakes.
O.T. A fly on the wall at 35th told me that the bosses are afraid that we won't have enough Tier 1 officers on the front lines to handle the G8/NATO protests. Starting early next year they're creating a 200 P.O. force, and the old MSF'ers will be offered the chance to be brought back. They figure they already have the training and equipment. After the city burns, the unit will remain to work as summer saturation teams (West and South). They're looking at housing the teams out of the current Area 4 after it's cleared out.
I sure hope the old Msf and Tru tell the city to go to hell. Do not go back to the unit after they shit on you the way they did. Let the city burn before I would allow the city to shit on me twice. I hope you all follow my advice. If you choose not to them shame on you and what ever happens to you is no ones fault but your own arrogance and ignorance.
The FOP is suing because the city would/will deliberately throw the case, dumbass! If the ACLU wins, it would give fucking Rhambo the perfect excuse to say "fuck you" and assign coppers to where ever shithole he wants because "it's by court order." Wink wink.
Everything those fucking politicians say is a fucking lie. Even when they tell the literal truth, it's so they can lie to you somewhere else about something bigger. WTF, are you all new to the job? You know this shit.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
OT. Effective 01Jan2012. Alcohol testing will be part of the random drug test for PO's. Check appendix T of the current fop contract. Don't get jammed up
12/02/2011 01:04:00 PM
Can we just say we had to drink because of an emergency and refuse the test? I know it's in the contract, but the city seems to disregard it, so we may as well too.
12/02/2011 04:20:00 PM
Right. And when they fire you just pretend it didn't happen and keep on coming to work.
Anonymous said...
Want to know the direction your FOP leans? Well it's nice that they have a new website but take a look at the company that designed and manages it, Watch Street consulting.
http://www.watchstreetconsulting.com/political-campaign-websites/
Now one would say who cares what company as long as the product is good right?
Well by giving this company you are connected and do support and agree in some way with their views.
Short list of the portfolio of this company:
Young Democrats of America
Harry Osterman
Proco Joe Moreno
Maria Antonia Berrios
Robyn Gabel
Elaine Nekritz
Matt Bogusz
Winograd
Bernard C Parks
Judge Ursula Hall
Edwin Reyes
Ramos for Judge of Cook County
Dr. Kamal Field Al-Basri
Clint Krislov
1st Ward Jesse Ruben Juarez
And my favorite.....Sharon "I get my drink on and disobey police orders" Dixon
A few have no dealings with us since they are out of state but learn about theses names. Some have pussed pension reforms. Some will slash your salaries and raise your taxes. And again, some will think they are higher then you disobey your police orders and get away with it.
Thank you again FOP for your CHANGE from the way the past administration ran.
12/02/2011 12:14:00 AM
Just so people know, the web site duties are no longer being handled by Rich Aguilar. Saul DelRivera is on top of the web site. He ran against Aguilar, lost the election and got an inside field rep job at Captain's pay anyway. Why have elections? The office is full of people who lost the election.
"Every time shields gives an interview he embarasses every member . He is horrible on camera.
Great job voting this idiot in.
12/02/2011 07:30:00 AM"
The Chicken has come home to roost. Enjoy him hairgels,& the 6 sidejobs you'll have to work to make your Mortage after he gives away 30 years of hard fought contractual rights. F'n Dummies
"Jesus! Over 26 years on and they never told me what tier I was on! How do I get this info? I now must know what tier I am.
12/02/2011 04:33:00 PM"
As long as you arent on a Tier in the County wearng Tan Scrubs, I wouldn't give it a second thought.
"NAGIS Party at the Hyatt and G-Mac shows up, not sure if it was announced or not, but he comes there.
During the course of the evening G_mac gets into a discussion with a 189 guy. The discussion elevates to a loud argument and then it escalates into physical assault grounds when G-Mac tells the 189 guy to come out with him.
Out the set of doors and in front of many, my self included, G-Mac (who has now taken off his jacket) starts the confrontation and screams at the 189 guy to "say it to my face"."
Andy Williams said it best,
It's the Most Wonderful Time of the Year!!
Anonymous said...
O.T. - Lt. A.S. (024) keeps her B.S. up. B.R. is gone A.S. He can not save you anymore. B.R. wanted to save you, but A.S. you screwed yourself. A patrol person had more clout than you A.S., that is why you put back in Patrol. You are destined to remain in Patrol, because you are arrogant
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B.R. nice job forcing your way into being "honored" at 24 xmas party. Isn't 19 going to "honor" you? You did retire out of A3, didn't you? And you did retire.There was that gathering at Mannys. Everyone knows you are short but, showing up at stations and xmas parties to try and make people kiss your ass just shows how little you are. Sell the house in Lincolnwood and move to Boca.
12/02/2011 09:29:00 PM
Still pissed he dumped your lazy ass when he was in 24, aren't you? Get over it dickhead...they asked HIM to come to the party, moron.
Whatever happened to real cops? Back in the day when a couple of drunken coppers started arguing and taking off suitcoats at least a few rounds were fought to settle the score. Nowadays everyone blah, blah, blahs and yells "hold me back" and all the dummys hold 'em back and nobody gets to see a fight. Aaahhh. I miss the old days.
Just so people know, the web site duties are no longer being handled by Rich Aguilar. Saul DelRivera is on top of the web site. He ran against Aguilar, lost the election and got an inside field rep job at Captain's pay anyway. Why have elections? The office is full of people who lost the election.
12/03/2011 12:35:00 AM
So HDO is in the FOP ?
Anonymous said...
SCC - when will you be starting a thread about G_mac and his challenging a cop at the Gang X-mas party last nite?
Picture it........
Gmac as the cowardly lion from the wizard of oz.......Put um up .....Put um up......
12/02/2011 09:29:00 PM
Still pissed he dumped your lazy ass when he was in 24, aren't you? Get over it dickhead...they asked HIM to come to the party, moron.
12/03/2011 05:56:00 AM
Which shows what a bunch of strokes they are in 24
OCD X mas party was interesting from the Supt almost getting into a fight and the domestic drama. To some female copper dirty dancin and getting into a domestic with her husband. Then trying to get on anyone she could. Yep your typical polical parties. That's why I hate them. Just wait till iAd starts the random (my ass) blow testing. All right after x mas parties.
01:04 so are steroids part of the random drug testing starting 1 Jan 12 covered under appendix T also
12/02/2011 04:43:00 PM
Why do you keep asking? Look in the new contract, it's in black and fucking white. You even know the appendix for god's sake.
As a po, not a fan of our mayor but all kids are off limits. His kids didn't choose to be in the public eye so I say leave them alone. I have to be honest, if I were a politician, I would have security with my kid at a concert too. Have actually met his kids a few times while working in plain clothes and they are very nice kids and polite.
Nice try hiding behind the kids but the point with 9.5 is always the $$$$$
I thought their message was to treat everyone the same. Nobody likes it when they realize the knife cuts both ways.
Wow harsh on the po trying to make a point about B.R. He must have taken good care of you after you kissed his ass, got you to 024, I'm sure
Kids are not off limits if it cost the taxpayers $, you are incorrect. If you are a concerned parent take him to the concert yourself, then there would be no question about security and tax payer dollars. Otherwise deal with the wrath.
Does that fly on the wall ever shut the fuck up?
So they file a lawsuit against ACLU but what are they doing to put pressure on the city for the recent death of Hester Scott(RIP)?
She was under house arrest at call back for 4 years without a disposition in her bs case with the animal who killed her. Those are the types of fights the FOP should be starting!
One term prez Mr Shields!
Publicity stunt by boy wonder. Fop has no business wasting our money on this. Let the city fight it.
12/02/2011 12:10:00 AM
Wrong. He is doing the right thing. He had to take a stand.
12/02/2011 09:29:00 PM
Still pissed he dumped your lazy ass when he was in 24, aren't you? Get over it dickhead...they asked HIM to come to the party, moron.
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No one EVER invited B.R. to ANYWHERE to ANYTHING. No one ever wanted him anywhere. You my friend should be better informed.
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