Monday, January 23, 2012

"Fast and Furious" Debacle

The Fifth Amendment was placed into the Constitution in order to prevent persons from having to give incriminating statements regarding criminal matters they have taken an active role in.

So what does it say about the "Fast and Furious" scandal that the sitting Chief of the Criminal Investigations Division of the US Attorneys Office in Arizona announces he will be taking the Fifth Amendment when appearing before Congress? It means a bunch of people may be going to prison for letting over 2,000 guns "walk" over the border to Mexican drug cartels:
  • The chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona is refusing to testify before Congress regarding Operation Fast and Furious, the federal gun-running scandal that sent U.S. weapons to Mexico.

    Patrick J. Cunningham informed the House Oversight Committee late Thursday through his attorney that he will use the Fifth Amendment protection.

    Cunningham was ordered Wednesday to appear before Chairman Darrell Issa and the House Oversight Committee regarding his role in the operation that sent more than 2,000 guns to the Sinaloa Cartel. Guns from the failed operation were found at the murder scene of Border Agent Brian Terry.

    The letter from Cunningham’s Washington DC attorney stunned congressional staff. Last week, Cunningham, the second highest ranking U.S. Attorney in Arizona, was scheduled to appear before Issa‘s committee voluntarily. Then, he declined and Issa issued a subpoena.

So the people supposedly upholding the law are declining to answer questions about their operations regarding the law. "Most transparent administration" our asses.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

They have been walking all over are gun rights. They all belong in jail. Daley included!

1/23/2012 12:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So nice...ya know... how you can use these crises to distracts peoples attention away from other criminal activities too! Like the banking frauds for one..and there's so many more.

1/23/2012 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So what does it say about the "Fast and Furious" scandal that the sitting Chief of the Criminal Investigations Division of the US Attorneys Office in Arizona announces he will be taking the Fifth Amendment when appearing before Congress?

It means he is a TRAITOR to the United States and the Contitution there of. His job is to uphold the US Constitution...EVEN the parts he does not like. The FBI should IMMEDATELY swoop in and arrest him.

ALL traitors should be hung.

1/23/2012 12:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yep and don't get any bright ideas like getting a few people together to protest your dissatisfaction with the political apparatus either. They'll up the permits and fines until you sit down and shut up.

That US constitution is as meaningless as a union contract or no doc mortgage or a triple-A safety rating on an investment.

Think about it. Where we headed?

1/23/2012 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

list left out the most important player: the CIA. According to a CIA insider, the agency had a strong hand in creating, orchestrating and exploiting Operation Fast and Furious.

The CIA’s motive is clear enough: The U.S. government is afraid the Los Zetas drug cartel will mount a successful coup d’etat against the government of Felipe Calderon.

Founded by ex-Mexican special forces, the Zetas already control huge swaths of Mexican territory. They have the organization, arms and money needed to take over the entire country.

1/23/2012 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wonder why Super Fed Peter Fitzgerald has not been ordered to D.C. To dig into the bottom of F&F?? He was ordered to D.C. To look into V.P. Dick Cheney and Scooter Libby over Valerie "007" Plaime. Hmmmmmm......

1/23/2012 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

.....sorry PATRICK Fitzgerald

1/23/2012 12:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

1, 2, 3, 4, FIFFFFFFFFTH as Dave Chappelle would say... lets see who is thrown under and dragged behind the bus...

1/23/2012 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Typical Fed...


1/23/2012 01:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can CPD guys claim the 5th, or are we held to a higher standard ?

1/23/2012 01:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wonder how many times he's said to a subject, "If you don't have anything to hide, I how come you won't talk to me?"...

1/23/2012 04:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If I tryed to take the fifth they would say well now were giving you a DIRECT ORDER. So there. Tell us everything. :(

Of course it will all be used against you in any criminal or civil trail.

1/23/2012 05:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If/when they get around to examining where the Federal grant money has been spent in Chicago, you will see a lot of that here.

1/23/2012 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lol. They should give him immunity and make him testify. Let's see how fast he gets 'disappeared' like in the old communist block countries.

1/23/2012 05:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Cline took the 5th

1/23/2012 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if he pleads the FIFTH, won't he be held in CONTEMPT of CONGRESS... i recall maybe i'm wrong a serious, jailable offense. he gets HOUSED till he talks

1/23/2012 07:00:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The whole Obama gang is going to jail for Fast n Furious, Solyndra etc. Thats why they are all bailing out.

1/23/2012 08:02:00 AM  
Blogger Anoun Amouse said...

The State of Arizona is looking into prosecuting those involved. Go Arizona!!!! The DOJ under Holder allowed these weapons to be sold to the drug cartels as a way to justify further gun control restrictions in the U.S.(until someone started blowing the whistle) sounds like TREASON to me.

1/23/2012 08:05:00 AM  
Anonymous O'Brien said...

Anonymous said...
Can CPD guys claim the 5th, or are we held to a higher standard ?

1/23/2012 01:56:00 AM
Sometimes the stupidity on here is simply staggering!

1/23/2012 08:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But I thought we had all of that hope and change and all that. You mean ObaMAO the Chicago politician is a sack of shit like all the others and hired scumbags like himself?

1/23/2012 08:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember our history; Nixon's Attorney General John Mitchell went to prison because he lied, but nobody died. Fast and Furious has cost lives on both sides of the Border. And the Mexican Government is planning to sue the U.S. Government over the deaths and injuries on their side of the Border. Yet the Press does little or nothing to bring this SCANDAL to the public's attention. If you attack Eric Holder you are Racist, even though he has clearly shown himself to have issues with white folks!

1/23/2012 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wearing my rubber boots to work today. got all prepaired to do my foot patrol. you know foot patrol solves crime; Garry said so

1/23/2012 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Interesting.......First, in 2009, there were statements by the Obama administration that American guns were being smuggled across the border and sold to the cartels. Thus, the safety of regular mexicans was being jeopardized by the American constitution. Then the NRA and other groups called BS and pointed out that the cartels were using fully automatic weapons and grenade launchers, neither of which are readily available to average Americans. The Obama administration then began pushing for the U.N. To pass the small arms treaty and for the senate to ratify said treaty. This was a way for Obama to outlaw private ownership of guns while bypassing the house of representatives. Fortunately, an ATF agent blew the whistle on fast and furious and the administration has been running damage control since.

1/23/2012 10:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AG Holder worked for a law firm that rep'ed Wall Street firms. Is that why BHO has yet to prosecute any Banisters??

1/23/2012 10:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought you could only invoke the 5th in response to specific questions, not completely avoid appearing. WTF is up with this shit?

1/23/2012 11:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As CPD (blue shirts only) *YOU* are held to the highest standard.

1/23/2012 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is nothing new apparently.

this goes back to '05 or '06 at least.

it was known then as "operation Wide Receiver"

the feds dont give a shit about LEOS..

stay safe.

1/23/2012 11:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Happy Daze are hear again said...

Once President Newt and V.P. Rahm get inaugurated in '13, all will be well.

1/23/2012 11:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This whole "operation" was launched to destroy the 2nd amendment. Fortunately for us - The PEOPLE, the traitors who ran it got caught. What is unfortunate is no heads have rolled for this. This is a HUGE thing and no one seems to care. Holder is a LIAR, a TRAITOR and he's so arrogant.
Look at the videos of him lying through his teeth while getting grilled at the hearings. I can't believe people like him are in charge of the Justice Department. He asks for the questions to be repeated so he can come up with some bullshit answers. A master of perjury.

May 3, 2011 - Darrel Issa questions Eric Holder on Gunnruner

Chaffetz Questions AG Eric Holder on Failed Gunrunning Operation "Fast and Furious"

Darrell Issa - "Sir, You Should be Ashamed of Yourself!!"

1/23/2012 12:16:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can CPD guys claim the 5th, or are we held to a higher standard ?

The short answer is: technically you can but you will lose your job.
If you plead the fifth they can order you to answer questions. Supposedly, If you answer questions under orders, you can not be prosecuted for the information you provide; however, the Department can use it in administrative proceedings. This means the Department can discipline you to the fullest extend for breaking Department rules. There have been occasions during which State's Attorneys have attempted to use statememnts given under order for criminal prosecutions. SCC has blogged at lenght regarding these matters. Check the archives.
Sorry for the long post.

1/23/2012 12:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

ObaMAO the Nobel Peace Prize winner let guns to to cartels in Mexico after starting a war with Libya?

I just don't believe it.

1/23/2012 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If ObaMAO won the Nobel Peace Prize after selling thousands of guns to violent Mexican drug cartels, bombed Libya when there was no US interest, murdered US citizens with drone strikes and had Bin Laden gunned down by the SEALs, does that mean that our gang bangers can put in for the award now as well?

They can legitimately claim that they killed less than the last peace prize winner.

1/23/2012 12:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Can CPD guys claim the 5th, or are we held to a higher standard ?"

Of course they can, if they feel the testimony they will give may incriminate them in criminal conduct. I would hope that is not the case when you they testify about cases they work on.

1/23/2012 01:03:00 PM  
Anonymous AND IN OTHER NEWS... said...

Emanuel Obstructing Justice?

Inspector General, Emanuel Lawyer Clash On Documents

Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s administration continues to invoke attorney-client privilege so it can withhold documents sought for internal investigations of potential wrongdoing, according to city Inspector General Joseph Ferguson’s latest report.

1/23/2012 01:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

worse than watergate...

where's the media outrage???????

1/23/2012 01:25:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who was the F-N genius in this administration that came up this idea that we take $80M to provide guns to homicidal psychotics to see what happens??

Now that the smelling brown stuff is hitting the ventilating machinery, everyone is running for cover and disavowing any knowledge.

AG Holder? I am not sure I ever read anything about it.

Obozo?: Don't remember anything.

But this program cost $80M!!! Does the US Government have so much money that they can throw it around and not track it?? Sure, why not!! It's only tax-payers' money.

1/23/2012 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..nor should we forget that AT LEAST 2 fellow Law Enforcement brothers lost their lives due to this debacle.

1/23/2012 01:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Political assholes are allowed to skirt the law. Bastards like Racoon Eyes, and his ilk, just wipe their assholes with the Bill of Rights and US Constitution and throw it in your face. the rest of us are expected to follow the law to the letter...or else. Fuck these criminal jagoffs. Put them in jail. How many innocent people were killed with these weapons? Nobody knows. And I guess in Washington nobody cares.

1/23/2012 02:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can CPD guys claim the 5th, or are we held to a higher standard ?


there is no higher std than the US constitution for such things.

you can certainly assert your rights just as anyone else can.

there is the issue of civil versus criminal though, which while it may seem unfair is the way it is.

1/23/2012 03:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Uh, didn't Phil Cline take the 5th?

1/23/2012 03:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Can CPD guys claim the 5th, or are we held to a higher standard ?

Sure, Fill Cline did back in the 80s when he was assigned to DEA task force.

1/23/2012 04:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Eric Holder is solely responsible for this mess.He will not let this deadly debacle reach his office. Pardon the well over used phrase, but, at the end of the day heads will roll ,but not his or any of his suckholes. This, just to appease any Media outlets ,and there are few, that don't buy into the "Obama Messiah" bullshit.

1/23/2012 06:09:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I miss Sgt Kosala and his potato gun.


1/23/2012 08:23:00 AM
I always like Joe. The barrel on that revolver looked like an 8".

Hey, tell John Wayne there to put that gun away. Keep talking and I'll turn you into Jane Wayne.

1/23/2012 08:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe they can order him to give an administrative statement.... what a crock of shit

1/24/2012 01:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Hey, I'm Just Sayin, said...

It's one thing to be willing to die to protect the President from an attack.

It is a totally different thing to be stabbed in the back and made a scapegoat for crimes committed by others. F*ck the government trying to cover up for each other. This guy is doing what he should be doing, protecting himself and his family from being framed.

Eric Holder or Obama is at fault here. Let them take the heat. Obama will just pardon Holder anyway, so make him do it!

1/24/2012 04:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What would Mr. Henry Bowman say?

1/24/2012 08:32:00 AM  

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