Short Another 150?
Can anyone from Personnel confirm 150 people retired as of 15 January?
And that another few hundred are scheduled to go prior to 15 May?
And that around 480 recruits are processed and ready to go through the Academy this summer?
OK, we made up that last one - no one is scheduled to go through the Academy at all this year.
And that another few hundred are scheduled to go prior to 15 May?
And that around 480 recruits are processed and ready to go through the Academy this summer?
OK, we made up that last one - no one is scheduled to go through the Academy at all this year.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Anyone else having problems deciding how to blow our pay increase? Any suggestions on what to do with that extra 11 bucks a week we got?!
The Northwest side of Chicago and the North side are going to lose a lot of police officers. On top of that, the city doesn't plan on replacing them. In 020 15 years ago we had about 380 officers. Today it's about 190. Plus, even in 020 we are seeing gang bangers and career long criminals move in. Why not? Not enough cops on the street so their chances of committing a crime and getting away with it are statistically better than if they were in their native South or West sides. It really is sad what is happening to our city.
Little birdies have been saying total manpower is in the mid 8000's and Rahm doesn't give a fuck... As long as he can bust out FOP and turn the pension to shit.
He purposely asked for G8 & NATO knowing full well the department is way understaffed in hope the city would burn so he can shit on CPD even more.
The numbers posted in Crystal and other sources for "public consumption" are bullshit.
2130
I can belove that because November and December stats showed 84 retirements; 40 of them being sgt's.
Its only going to get worse for the dept, city and g8 2012 is going to be a bitch!
Rapidly getting down to that 9,000 mark. The city doesn't feel it needs so many cops on the street. Better uses for money I guess.
So does that mean more money for us at contract time?
Academy instructor said that current class in academy MAY be let go after G8 summit. They are discussing laying them off and the possibly hiring them back in 2013 if federal funds are secured. Did anyone else hear this?
No academy classes till 2013 at the earliest.
OT: the Tribune and WBBM newsradio is reporting that the CTA is the only governmental entity that has their overtime pensionable.
You have to be Fuc&%&g kidding me? How do we get that shit? What a freaking joke, we should all be pissed off!!!!!
NATO and G8 Summits are BOTH scheduled for May 15-22, 2012.
The ideal date to retire for continuity of receiving paychecks and pension checks is the 15th of the month. 15 May sounds like a PERFECT retirement date to me!
O.T. and interesting:
Yesterday's Sneed column had some quotes from an anonymous Sgt. who really slammed McNutty. All true statements.
Another unnamed source said McNutty's biggest problem is Rahm and the fact that we're stripped to the bone and Rahm absolutely refuses to allow any hiring of police.
Rahm you're an evil, rotten bastard. You sure seem to find money whenever you have a pet project but when it comes time to allocate money for hiring or our pension you simply cry broke.
Karma can be a real bitch Rahm and I'm quite sure someday you'll get what 's coming to you.
You shouldn't have stated that you made up the recruits starting. Maybe the reporters would have printed it without checking its validity because they are lazy. Then Raum would have to say no, we aren't hiring because he sucks at being the mayor.
Called Human Resources they have add extra Pre-Retirement seminars dates, first was March than add May and now June! Was told never had to add extra dates like this before so many people planning to go before new contracts.
Have seen in last 3 weeks two Sergeants leave who were NOT planning to leave this year go because of new XO is totally crazy! Rahm gets his way NO promotional tests just merit by clout!
7500 Department strength MAX! another 2000 to 2500 for supervisors and support personal and your at 9500 for total Department! city clerk has budget on web site look at the budgeted positions and see 9500 tops for Department including civilian support and supervisors!
So who is going to pay into our pension?
We are a Sanctuary City. THAT is more important. You guys are just trying to scare the taxpayers into buying guns.
the media thats covering for rahm, will be the same that attack us,when we crack heads at the g-8.
Off topic
Which 011 3/w 30 sector RATS thru 2 coworkers under the bus over a bad inventory? and then had their immediate Sgt help throw the pos under that bus by having the complainant sign the affidavit BY GOING TO COUNTY AND HAVING DUDE PULLED OUT OF HIS CELL FOR HIS SIGNATURE?!?!?!? R U SERIOUS?!!?!??!? The Sarge went out of his way to screw a couple guys because their not in his sector and are new(er) to 11th Dist from TRU/MSF?? As it this job wasnt fucked up enuf with all the s**t we have to worry about every day, now pos have to worry about some a-holes barely off probation and their p***y sgt feeding them to the wolves???? the convict FELON in the joint has more credability then two officers?? Who's side are you really on guys??? I hope these guys are tite cuz they may be the only ones riding on each others assists when the shit hit the fan. Disgusting what passes for the police & "Supervisor" these days
The city is broke. There just is no money left. It has all been stolen.
Paying for the generous pensions the city gave its employees is a bill they haven't even started to deal with yet. That willeat another big chunk up.
Given that most of the city budget is employees, a lot of that is going to come out of a reduced work force.
Any suggestions on what to do with that extra 11 bucks a week we got?!
You could get 3 gallons of gas.
Academy instructor said that current class in academy MAY be let go after G8 summit. They are discussing laying them off and the possibly hiring them back in 2013 if federal funds are secured. Did anyone else hear this?
Obviously not someone who knows what they are talking about. The 49 recruits currently in the academy are there WITH federal funds. Remember the CTA funding item last year. So tell that midget one hour a day instructor he doesn't know what he is talking about.
FYI there are probably hundreds of recruits processed since there are at least 10 a day for the past few months coming to get their lie box test. I am assuming that is the last step in the process.
The ideal date to retire for continuity of receiving paychecks and pension checks is the 15th of the month. 15 May sounds like a PERFECT retirement date to me!
If you can I say go for it! As for myself, I have 6 years to go before I could pull the plug.
Oh well. The world has looked like it was going to end on several past occasions and I'm still here. I'll still be here on 23 May.
Yes, i am in to retire.....
The national guard is coming!
Anonymous said...
You shouldn't have stated that you made up the recruits starting. Maybe the reporters would have printed it without checking its validity ...
1/16/2012 03:28:00 AM
SCC plays it straight---he/she doesn't "err" or misspeak", unlike some in this city
That overtime/swiping in/out thing is coming soon. 9.5 thinks he can save a ton of $$$$$$$.
Hey buddy, in a few short years that "11 bucks a week" we got will feel like a huge raise.....
Manpower is way down. Perhaps they'll have a hiring push like they did back in the 90's?
Anonymous said...
Academy instructor said that current class in academy MAY be let go after G8 summit. They are discussing laying them off and the possibly hiring them back in 2013 if federal funds are secured. Did anyone else hear this?
1/16/2012 12:40:00 AM
That is not true. The current recruit class was hired with federal money for public transportation, not city funds. When they graduate and are assigned to districts, then 50 veterans will be re-assigned to public transportation. Not a gain for officers on the street.
true on 150, partner was there to retire!!!!!!!
you could say the less cpd, the more bodies in the morgue. also the more crime is increased. the man in charge, could care less.the elite will have their protection, while average joe must fend for himself. there attitude is to punish the greedy cpd, and the public can make do.
Anonymous said...
"...It really is sad what is happening to our city."
1/16/2012 12:20:00 AM
It is sad. I spotted this in yesterday's Scum-Times:
Bidders Buy Up City’s Old Stuff: Copier Toner, Table Saw, Mercedes SUV
City officials are doing what frantic penny-pinchers have done for years: They’re searching every nook and cranny for old fax machines, abandoned SUVs, unsold sports banners and other surplus property to auction online.
City officials now aim to collect $4.6 million from the online auctions this year by finding even more junk to get rid of.
http://www.suntimes.com/business/10032346-478/bidders-buy-up-citys-old-stuff-copier-toner-table-saw-mercedes-suv.html
Too bad they couldn't find an auctioneer in Chicago or Illinois to handle this. Instead, a Utah based auctioneer will collect the fees for their auction services. Nice going Rahm, you dickhead!
Yes, I drove one of them down. There were so many they used the room on the first floor to the south of the metal detectors. While there I heard the Febuary crowd will be just as big or more.
The Northwest side of Chicago and the North side are going to lose a lot of police officers. On top of that, the city doesn't plan on replacing them. In 020 15 years ago we had about 380 officers. Today it's about 190. Plus, even in 020 we are seeing gang bangers and career long criminals move in. Why not? Not enough cops on the street so their chances of committing a crime and getting away with it are statistically better than if they were in their native South or West sides. It really is sad what is happening to our city.
1/16/2012 12:20:00 AM
"Native" south or west sides? When the "greatest generation" lived on the south side the neighborhoods were beautiful. The southside went to hell after the great migration from Mississippi. The democrat's welfare system was quite appealing.
Congratulations Lt. SS.Did not really think you'd go. Was the dept that bad? Are you even 50 yet? Wow! Well, God Bless You and all your endeavors.
You will be missed; truly one of the best!
017 and 016 are not getting any more officers--- mcdrinksalot thinks zone 1 is full of lazy dogs and doesn't want to send more coppers in there because he thinks they will be turned into lazy dogs as well--- the one thing that pisses coppers off more than anything else is having to walk into the bosses office begging for time due--- there is going to be a lot of begging going on come summer time if they don't send more manpower to the north side--- the only solution will be to put up a bunch of 99 units on 1st and 3rd watch unless they get some more manpower--- many bosses are not to crazy about putting up 99 units on these two watches--- bosses will be faced with this decision everyday when it warms up if they don't get more bodies....
Wasn't he the asshole,(rahm), that always said, never let a holy shit event go by without pulling a fast one when nobodies paying attention?
We I guess if you don't have an event, create one.... we can always blame it on someone else.
and the media just stumbles around and says........
Wanna really get pissed off.Read the Marivitz pension article in the Sun Times.This guy was collecting two city pensions,while never being a city employee.
15 MORE Sergeants gone.
LESS Supervision
Check out the sun times article on pensions .
I believe it was 55 , not 150. That was on Friday the 13th. It's true though. Personnel utilized an office on the 1st floor for retiree processing. They utilize that room when large amounts of people go on the same day.
Our Lt. at O'Hare collecting empty copy paper boxes in anticipation of being dumped to a district, not his choice. Sorry boss. Your a good guy in my book.
Its only going to get worse for the dept, city and g8 2012 is going to be a bitch!
1/16/2012 12:30:00 AM
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HAA!
It will be GREAT!
I will be IOD watching the CITY BURN on TV!
He purposely asked for G8 & NATO knowing full well the department is way understaffed in hope the city would burn so he can shit on CPD even more.
Oh, It Will .... and we have to make sure the citizens know why.
between last labor day and the upcomming G8 riots there are about 1100 officers eligible to retire.
from the medical posting.............
HEY SCC,
LONG TERM DISABILITY INSURANCE.
BUY IT FROM THE CITY NOW. Guys it covers 80% of your income. I have had this policy deducted from my checks for 16 years now. its like 25.00 a month and worth every penny. Most guys don't even know they City offers this to us.
1/15/2012 09:13:00 AM
Benefits Mgmt City of Chicago states it only covers 60 percent of your income.
So does that mean you collect 60% of your salary(from the insurance you are paying for) in addition to the 50% you are strapped with when on disability? Or does that mean the insurance you are paying for is only going to kick in a additional 10%?
hows about speed up the bullshit process of having coppers stripped and at call back for years(like 4 plus) on bullshit get on with it how do some get away w murder sex crimes etc w no discipline and others suffer the humiliation of being stripped for yrs this is bullshit and whats worse is the amount of coppers getting 30 pending on minor shit that certain coppers (white shirts) get away w a slap on wrist, u want good men yes n women back on the streets lets get going on this process and get the good coppers back out there where they are needed most
part of the reason 020 has had a drop in the number of officers- how many fled to other units or retired because of that goofy Commander?
Why would anyone want to retire before the G8/NATO summit? After a career of service, you owe it to Rahm to put your life and limb on the line after paying for all the gear you'll need to protect yourself. Then when you retire and the lawsuit comes in, it'll give you something to do so you're not bored in retirement.
See. Rahm is always thinking about you.
If the city is budgeted for 13,500 officers and we only have around 9,500 officers with no plans to hire more. Do we the tax payers get a tax rebate and tax reduction? Where did that budgeed money go?
Simple questions never asked by the media.
He purposely asked for G8 & NATO knowing full well the department is way understaffed in hope the city would burn so he can shit on CPD even more.
1/16/2012 12:25:00 AM
You said it brother. Get ready to get thrown under the bus by the Mayor when all hell breaks loose.
No new hires =
No new contributors to the pension =
Destruction of the fund and our retirement security.
Rahm's plan to f*ck the police.
Considering the size of the department, it would not be surprising if 500 or more employees left each year due to retirement or other reasons. Just normal attrition.
It seems like the city has decided to reduce the number of police employees by attrition rather than having to lay people off. most places are still more in the layoff mode than the attrition mode for reductions in force. count what few blessing you have.
I would not be one bit surprised if the department ended up well under 10,000 employees. That would seem to be about where the numbers would indicate it has to be. That would indicate perhaps another 5-10 years of few or no new hires.
Be thankful you are not employed in other city departments that will be hit much harder. I expect some departments to be closed entirely and others to have the number of employees reduced by as much as 50%. There just are no other options right now to dealing with the city's financial crisis.
$11 a week increase is better than an $11 a week decrease . Jfled was right give cpd coppers a pound of
gold in a bar and they will complain they wanted a pound of gold coins.
quit your beefing already , there's 1,000 's of men and women that would do your job for alot less money .
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Anyone else having problems deciding how to blow our pay increase? Any suggestions on what to do with that extra 11 bucks a week we got?!
that money was already spent for you by our politicians....water bill going up, city stickers going up, tollway fees going up, speed cameras on the way, state income tax went up not to mention all the other fees and fines that went up that i can't think of right now. we're making less money now then we did before this current "raise." and just wait till this june when rham pisses on us in the next contract.
Next contract will offer 50 and out. You heard it here first. that would lower their over all cost and that's all they care about.
Anyone else here the Sup and the Capts Assc President got into it big time last week over who was lying to who?
As long as nobody in the Rahm-Controlled Crookagoland Socialist News Media investigates and questions the annual crime rate drop, it will be justified by the Regime that additional new police officers are not needed. So enjoy your extra overtime money, your stifling tax and fee increases, and just try to keep your heads above water till Romney gets in, and then at least some things will get better.
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Anyone else having problems deciding how to blow our pay increase? Any suggestions on what to do with that extra 11 bucks a week we got?!
I bought a gallon of gas and a candy bar!
Budgeted 13,500.
New budget secretly turned into 13,000 officers.
Hiring Freeze.
NO bid Openings for P.O.'s
Currently 2,123 officers short.
Each month we lose approx 30-40 each month due to retirement, suicide, murder, natural causes.
Why isn't FOP being the voice of the many, and screaming to high heavy about our ridiculous and dangerous manpower shortage?
Is our 1% contract raise on the this last check?
i got a question; if we are budgeted for a say a 13,000 police force and we only have say 19,750. where is the money going that the city is budgeted for and not using for police officers? is it going towards our pensions that are underfunded, mismanaged, neglected and stolen from?
Geez, I wish I could be one of those 150! I once thought doing 30 years on this department was a given, now I pray everyday for 20 and out!
the coppers in 016, 017, 019, 020,022, 023 need to stop the animals every time they see one of them to explain they are not going to walk around and behave the way they do in the ghetto. PLEASE!!!!!! officers in these districts, be the police!!!
Its ok, don't worry we have Mobile fool force on the way!!!
Rahm , let McCarthy dump a few dozen commanders , let XO's show you what their made of . Don't forget most exempts voted for Chico.
No idea if true but everyday it seems as if there is another 1 or 2 guys being taken to 35th to call it quits and get their retired star. I don't ever recall a period quit like this
Nobody in their right mind wants to work for CPD anynore. Many have to, but not many really want to.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Academy instructor said that current class in academy MAY be let go after G8 summit. They are discussing laying them off and the possibly hiring them back in 2013 if federal funds are secured. Did anyone else hear this?
1/16/2012 12:40:00 AM
God, I hope that is not true. It would be devastating to the recruits/p.p.o's. They quit a job they had to join the cpd and then in a few months they are told they don't have a job.
How many commanders have left? 1 pitiful! You'll never get promoted now. All they have to do is keep demoting. All the commanders are young with no time on the job. Pretty soon there will be no one left to supervise. I bet there are proportionally more blue shirts going than bosses. Take away the 3/4 hr a day overtime fro XOs, lts, & sgts. Job is not worth it. Make po overtime pensionable. Not.
Anyone else having problems deciding how to blow our pay increase? Any suggestions on what to do with that extra 11 bucks a week we got?!
Donate it to charity, then tell us all what you would be earning at some other job you would be working with your great talents.
McCarthy has released his battle plan for G8/Nato. Looks like it's flawless:
http://www.ebaumsworld.com/video/watch/82126390/
How many will retire in Feb and Apr
2012 , many officers stay for uniform allowance in feb and last duty availability and supervisor quarterly checks in april ?
Sell back your vacation , personal and baby furlough days for 2012 and you are at full pay for 2012.
bye bye mccarthy , try and require xo rank to work a full shift
how many full duty officers are hiding in commanders office in 2,7
9 & 12
eleven bucks a week would have been a 12% raise when I was in the Academy.
Don't be spending all of your raise on all the extravagant toys or travel you've been eyeing lately. That trip to Gary will have to wait.
Remeber, rahm is coming for it with new water and city sticker fees.
Has anyone asked the question of the mayor or the superintendent what the staffing formula is? Believe it or not, there are mathematical formulas to base staffing on. What is the one the Chicago Police Department uses? There must be one, Surely, you wouldn't run the number of officers down based purely on politics and guess work? When the superintendent came to a department he had no familiarization with, somebody must have said, based on these calculations, these are the number of police we need. Calculations not based on solely on violent crime, but on population, total area covered, all crime, enforcement activities, etc. Right?
An idea whose time has come, and frankly it makes a lot of sense. Seems a concept is being worked on that will take ALL of the officers of the Desk and out of the office. Replacing them with- Recently retired officers
To Wit: Retired P.O.s & Sgts who are in decent health may have the oppurtunity to return to work. (Seems post-retirement that people go thru phases #1) Like im on furlo #2) Whoo Hoo- Im retired #3) Damn- Im retired...Now What- Waiting to die?) Watched my Dad go thru it, and now watching a Neighbor going thru it now- he is in phase 2.
The Dept is realizing the the Brain drain/experience from the retirements. They are trying to figure out how to put more bodies on the streets, and keep the desks etc. staffed. By using those who retired outta fear or the 55/paid medical or those who left mandatorily it saves them from putting recruits into the academy and the associated cost of training. A retired guy probably could be brought upto speed in a matter of a week or so.
The one Bid spot would stay on the desk supplimented by 2 or 3 retired guys. I can come up with a buck of reasons that some guys would come outta retirement to work an inside spot. (my dad would have done it in a heartbeat to get away from mom for a few hours a day!)
I wanted to get on the department for years and now I wonder what the F was I thinking. The city doesn't care about the people that take care of the citizens on the city and make sure order is kept by the savages of the city.
I've never seen so much help to keep these savages in power. Will the retard we call mayor ever see what we see and go through. We get shot at, beat up, told what to do by shitheads, yelled at, disrespected and the list can go on and on. Anyway.... We need more officers on the street and I really hope May teaches the piece of shit Mayor a lesson and hire more officers. If not we as a department should do bare minimum and arrest only who we really need to and stop writing any tickets until we get more officer in the academy. Them maybe this city will take us more serious, I know that is wishful thing.
Thank you Chicago for caring about the police and everything we do for you......not.... 20 yrs and I'm out
1/16/2012 10:48:00 AM
I've been saying it for years.
GO AFTER the Politicians in this city.
The Aldermen and women wear a badge...they are legally allowed to be recorded without a wiretap permit from the courts because the City Alderpeople are classified as LEO and can Carry. Same for the Mayor. Same for ALL City Directors.
No City Employee has the legal expectation to privacy while inside of a City Facility.
Trib offering people in news dept. early retirement. The official beginning of the end.
Next contract will offer 50 and out. You heard it here first. that would lower their over all cost and that's all they care about.
1/16/2012 11:44:00 AM
And that benefits me how? I came on the job at 21. Will retire at 50 maxed out with 29 and a day
off topic...
Ive posted below a link to who all of our pension money goes to each quarter. Most look legitimate.. Maybe someone who has the time should reserch some of these people. I have... and of course DV realty still gets 50k per period. i looked at a few more... very interesting. maybe the media or scc should do the same...
http://www.chipabf.org/ChicagoPolicePension/PDF/Investments/Q211_Fees_Recipients.pdf
"Anyone else here the Sup and the Capts Assc President got into it big time last week over who was lying to who?"
1/16/2012 11:44:00 AM
true....
"Next contract will offer 50 and out. You heard it here first. that would lower their over all cost and that's all they care about."
1/16/2012 11:44:00 AM
that story has been making the rounds.....might be some truth to it (along with givebacks, no raise, etc.)
1/16/20012 9:16am, you are correct. The great Black migration was in part encouraged by the Democrats....more votes, the great White flight from South Side encouraged by Kennedy's and their banking allies, Hispanic sanctuary cities and zones, again encouraged by Democrats. Democrats aren't alone in all this Republicans govern the same way! All this social engineering done for one thing and one thing only. HOW TO STAY IN POWER! The public be damned.
rumor has it
one way oneal lied to big hooten unit 701 and gmac
$11 a week increase is better than an $11 a week decrease . Jfled was right give cpd coppers a pound of
gold in a bar and they will complain they wanted a pound of gold coins.
quit your beefing already , there's 1,000 's of men and women that would do your job for alot less money .
Signed, Rahm
So what if sgts retire, what is the matter, youse guys need 24 hr. a day supervision, youse guys need someone to wipe your ass? Man up, you should be a real policeMAN. Stop whinning or ypu will soon have all women supervising you. I was 20 yrs old on the streets of Fillmore making most of my own decesions, ypou only called a sgt if it was to his advantage or ypou shot someone. Go ahead, call for a sgt and wehile you a waiting for her/him ypu can stick one thumb up your ass and the other in your nose for two hours while a riot is devoping. Not so long ago if a guy made sgt. lt. or capt he would be happy with his new station in life and he would try to learn his job and do it the right way. Now if you make a body a sgt. they have already set their sites on at least dept chief even if they should have never been a gt. to begin with. They are just too many uncle=daddys taking care of their whore relatives.
quit your beefing already , there's 1,000 's of men and women that would do your job for alot less money .
1/16/2012 11:03:00 AM
yeah, they're called scumbag losers with no skillset and no education. Most of those are drug addicts or otherwise could never pass a drug screening. The rest of those have criminal records that precluded them from even daining to hold a law enforcement certificate.
So go shove it up your ass buddy, you think the pond scum willing to do ANY job for less money is the kind of individual who should be given a gun and lawful authority over others you need to snap your head outta your ass and go live in southern mexico since you seem to think slave wage loving police are worthy of policing ANYONE else in this world.
"Little birdies have been saying total manpower is in the mid 8000's and Rahm doesn't give a fuck... As long as he can bust out FOP and turn the pension to shit."
It's an honor and a privilege to chauffeur my Mayor to and from the Green Zone.
Hey, I'm Just Sayin, said...
NATO and G8 Summits are BOTH scheduled for May 15-22, 2012.
The ideal date to retire for continuity of receiving paychecks and pension checks is the 15th of the month. 15 May sounds like a PERFECT retirement date to me!
1/16/2012 02:23:00 AM
I've had my retirement planed and am going well before the G8 B.S. but I still have to go to the G8 training? Our tax dollars at work for rahmadon!
So enjoy your extra overtime money, your stifling tax and fee increases, and just try to keep your heads above water till Romney gets in, and then at least some things will get better.
1/16/2012 11:50:00 AM
Don't bank on it. There isn't a two party system anymore. They are all in it together. A Romney election would only cause the bus to go over the cliff at a slower pace, but it's still going over.
Our only chance at turning this country around is electing a true conservative, a-la Ronald Reagan, who coincidentally, was hated by the republican establishment. I really don't think there is one in the race for the republicans. If Palin runs as an independent there is hope for this country.
Can't believe how quick the Sun Times buried the Marovitz pension scandal article from today's paper.Was on the front on-line page and now it's gone.
I'm retiring early and getting away from this screwed up city and department. Adios - be safe brudda's and sista's
New York recently had a class of something like 2000, shit you not. Rahm, what's your excuse?
When push comes to shove, Rahm always says "it's about the children" cough cough - Bullshit! Public Safety is not one of our Mayors priorities, it's kind of pushed to the back, around the corner and slighty to the left on the list.
If the city is budgeted for 13,500 officers and we only have around 9,500 officers with no plans to hire more. Do we the tax payers get a tax rebate and tax reduction? Where did that budgeed money go?
Simple questions never asked by the media.
1/16/2012 10:38:00 AM
The money saved by under manning the police department will be misspent on more Mayor pet projects and raises for his and the alderman's staff. More flower pots and wrought iron.
So Mr. & Ms. Taxpayer, ask the Mayor: "I haven't seen a copper patrolling my block in 3 months. Where is that money being spent?".
Has anyone absolutely needed accident insurance? I had combined, then I switched to Allstate but i have only used it once in 6 years and got a whooping 250.00 bucks. I'm thinking of cancelling it and putting the extra money into deferred comp.
So who is going to pay into our pension?
The taxpayers. Ofcourse 9.5 is going to use their anger to try and weasle out of the city's obligation to meet those pension payments... leaving a bunch of retired cops living in cardboard boxes since you get no social security.
$11 a week increase is better than an $11 a week decrease . Jfled was right give cpd coppers a pound of
gold in a bar and they will complain they wanted a pound of gold coins.
quit your beefing already , there's 1,000 's of men and women that would do your job for alot less money .
1/16/2012 11:03:00 AM
First of all it was a decrease because our whole 6% worth of increases over a 5 year period did not keep pace with rising costs. So we are by far making less money than we did 5 years ago. I have had every tax and utility go up in my house in the last 5 years including my water bill and now city sticker and they're not done raising that water bill. That's going to keep rising for the next 4 years in a row. The value of my house has plummeted yet my taxes seem to keep going up. I haven't even figured out how the hell that works exactly. For those 1000's of men and women that would do this job for alot less... they may be getting their chance sooner than you think. Ofcourse, the corruption and theft that goes with shitty wages on this job like in the 20's will return with a vengeance. You'll also have people of the same caliber as the meter maids and traffic control people running around with guns and arrest powers. That will be real good. You like to complain about police misconduct, brutality, corruption, and bad shootings now just wait until the police department is made up of a bunch of assholes making $10.00 an hour and nothing to lose.
the coppers in 016, 017, 019, 020,022, 023 need to stop the animals every time they see one of them to explain they are not going to walk around and behave the way they do in the ghetto. PLEASE!!!!!! officers in these districts, be the police!!!
1/16/2012 12:31:00 PM
Sorry fine citizen I can't do that anymore. You didn't like it when I did stop "the animal" in the past. You thought we were messing with the poor misguided youth of America. You went as far as to video tape me (leaving only what you wanted to be seen) and make complaints on me. So again Im sorry but I have a family to feed and support, so I will not stop (I'll read between your lines- the black or hispanic)just because he is walking freely down your street and not breaking any laws "YET" Good luck Mr. Citizen and also you can thank Rahm, Garry, Daley, Quinn, Madigan and a few other politicians for this.
It's kind of funny. For the past year or so most of you bitched about not getting a raise or a very small one at that. Most of you stated you will not do any proactive or aggressive work because we got a shitty raise. Now some guy sarcastically comments about what to do with his big $11.00 raise and you give him shit and tell him to be thankful he has a job. Will you dumbasses keep saying that when the next contract is no raises, higher medical payments, take away our medical days, and see a pension fund completely depleted? I'm thankful I do have this job is this economy but I also been on over 20 years when the economy was good. If the politicians and alderman can get a raise and a pension so should we!!!
just collected 6600.00 from combined, due to an iod surgery. Tax free ! Keep it.
@ 1/16/2012 05:59:00 PM...
You hit the nail right on the head!
Rahm & McMouthy WILL ride off into the sunset of bigger & better things (only in their narrow world-view) after totally destroying this city. Period.
All the people who have talked BIIIGGG shit over the years about how they will work this job for reduced pay and benefits will have their chance to man up or shut the fuck up after the smoke clears.
It WILL be the alderfool wet-dream of CPD dissolved to $10.00 an hour
Chicago Cocked-Hat Security & Public Safety Customer Service Agents.
Heh... It would be amusing to roll by and see the shit-talkers looking most offended because they'll have to stand in line and compete with the catered to constituents, los pueblos de la ciudad santuario and all the other dicey & sketchy dead-enders for the priviledge of wearing the cocked-hat.
Most people with good sense are seeing what The Police have to contend with, so the shit-talker argument of "thousands of people are lined up for your jobs so just quit already" is a hollow one...
Hard economic times always makes people lose their minds at the though that somebody so "lowly" as a Policeman seemingly has some semblance of stability.
Most people didn't give a damn about Policing or Policemen during "boom times."
Now? We're the controversial flash-point du jour.
It's a mean & hateful season to be The Police now, isn't it?
....all good things come to end..this was good job with good benefits years back. at least thats why i signed up. all good things are being taken away. we should be able to sue this city for missleading many of us.
Until there is documented proof that the city needs more officers none will be hired. The murder rate has not gone up. Gun recoveries last year were way up over 2010. The crime rate is not up. So if you were the mayor would you be in a hurry to hire more? As long as you have idiot po s that volunteer to have their contractual rights violated and continue to go above and beyond, nothing will change..
04:53:00 PM
Anonymous said...
quit your beefing already , there's 1,000 's of men and women that would do your job for alot less money .
1/16/2012 11:03:00 AM
yeah, they're called scumbag losers with no skillset and no education. Most of those are drug addicts or otherwise could never pass a drug screening. The rest of those have criminal records that precluded them from even daining to hold a law enforcement certificate.
So go shove it up your ass buddy, you think the pond scum willing to do ANY job for less money is the kind of individual who should be given a gun and lawful authority over others you need to snap your head outta your ass and go live in southern mexico since you seem to think slave wage loving police are worthy of policing ANYONE else in this world.
1/16/2012 04:56:00 PM
Lot of ex-military veterans would love a job with benefits. Have you ever tried to look for a real job? There are thousands of candidates with a decent education that would love this job. Wake up asshat.
Gmac. G8 lmao
OT SCC if you can please post this information regarding the trial that is about to begin for the fucken animal that murdered Ofc. Nate Taylor. They will start to pick the jury on friday 20 Jan at which time if concluded, the trial will then begin on the following monday 23 Jan. I cant begin to tell you how long i have been waiting for this to start and hopefully finally end the way it should with the savage being found guilty and locked away in a fucken dungeon where he will never ever get to see the light of day. (of course we cant put him to death here in this fucked up state of illinois, thanks quinn you piece of shit) but as always, i ask if you have court at 26/cal to stop in and show your support for Nate and his family in Judge Fords courtroom which is 706 thank you, see you there and stay safe everyone
50 and free medical, is a win for us and a win for the city, glad to see us working together!
I have a question, whats the amount of time before the test they a while ago expire? because if they don't start hiring the list should expire sooner or later and then have to spend more money for a new test
November and December retirement stats.
Commander 1
Capt 3
Lt 12
Sgt 40
PO' S 21
Det's 9
Total 86
From 35st
So who is going to pay into our pension?
The taxpayers. Ofcourse 9.5 is going to use their anger to try and weasle out of the city's obligation to meet those pension payments... leaving a bunch of retired cops living in cardboard boxes since you get no social security.
What everyone forgets is that WE are the tax payers too.
Wow, dinosaur Dan Garcia from 001 to retire, after 50years on the job. Time to go ,not? You and Sgt.mulligan. sgt. larissey, and all the others staying 50 years; what's wrong with you guys?
FYI, there is a group of applicants being processed, but that doesn't mean they will be hired in the near future. Oh,they are getting sent to the lie box, but not because that's the last step. That is the city's way to save money. If they fail the lie box, they don't have to pay to have them background checked, psych tested and medical checked. Ahhhh the city that works.
http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2012/01/16/economist-natog8-summits-could-be-a-disaster/
Rahm , let McCarthy dump a few dozen commanders , let XO's show you what their made of . Don't forget most exempts voted for Chico.
1/16/2012 12:48:00 PM
Ummm XO's are exempts too Mr. former Captain.
Due to the budget deficit, Uncle Rahm has cut the academy completely. No more help coming our way. WTF
Anonymous said...
$11 a week increase is better than an $11 a week decrease . Jfled was right give cpd coppers a pound of
gold in a bar and they will complain they wanted a pound of gold coins.
quit your beefing already , there's 1,000 's of men and women that would do your job for alot less money .
1/16/2012 11:03:00 AM
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FUCK YOU, ASSHOLE.
We deserve a MUCH better raise than that. We put our lives on the line every time we put on the uniform. Maybe not you, but most of us.
Anonymous said...
November and December retirement stats.
Commander 1
Capt 3
Lt 12
Sgt 40
PO' S 21
Det's 9
Total 86
From 35st
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More bad info. There were more than that on 15 Nov 11 alone.
And that benefits me how? I came on the job at 21. Will retire at 50 maxed out with 29 and a day
1/16/2012 04:27:00 PM.....................................................You'd rather work ANOTHER 5 years after maxing out for health insurance??
You think we're screwed now; just wait. If Obama wins another election GOD HELP US, this country is so screwed. We're about to crash and burn as we speak. More people need to get involved in politics, on the government level and the city and police department leve. Take action - Power in numbers. Bring attention to all the wrongs and lets try making them right. Our union needs to step up and be more aggressive too.
from the medical posting.............
HEY SCC,
LONG TERM DISABILITY INSURANCE.
BUY IT FROM THE CITY NOW. Guys it covers 80% of your income. I have had this policy deducted from my checks for 16 years now. its like 25.00 a month and worth every penny. Most guys don't even know they City offers this to us.
1/15/2012 09:13:00 AM
Benefits Mgmt City of Chicago states it only covers 60 percent of your income.
So does that mean you collect 60% of your salary(from the insurance you are paying for) in addition to the 50% you are strapped with when on disability? Or does that mean the insurance you are paying for is only going to kick in a additional 10%?
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The website says 'collect up to 60 percent' and 'only certain disabilities qualify'.
I have a question, whats the amount of time before the test they a while ago expire? because if they don't start hiring the list should expire sooner or later and then have to spend more money for a new test
Dude! If you are not currently employed and need a paycheck, by all means good luck. If you are currently employed DO NOT ACCEPT A POSITION WITH THIS BULLSHIT DEPARTMENT! You obviously read this blog and must be clued in to how miserable everyone is. Without clout this is a dead end job likely with no pension that will ensure you work until you're in the grave. If you are not politically connected and quit another job for this one you literally have shit for brains.
Just heard the terribly sad news of the passing of Sgt. Mike
Flannery RIP!
Way too young Mike, keep watch over us!
LOLOLOL...Ya OK..
If you need a sgt to do your job, You're a mush..
Less supervison..LMAO
Why is none of the shit we see walking around the northside districts stopped. How many teams are there, and what do they do?
Down at least 4,000 officers. Put the extra money the city saves in the pension like it should have been. About 240,000,000 a yr. Where is the money? Enough with city gov. blaming the recession for everything and taking advantage of the situation, shame on you.
eleven bucks a week would have been a 12% raise when I was in the Academy.
1/16/2012 04:07:00 PM
Back when dinosaurs roamed the earth...
Anonymous said...
the coppers in 016, 017, 019, 020,022, 023 need to stop the animals every time they see one of them to explain they are not going to walk around and behave the way they do in the ghetto. PLEASE!!!!!! officers in these districts, be the police!!!
1/16/2012 12:31:00 PM
That would be great, but did you ever hear of the Bill of Rights? Well, the liberals, politicians, fake rev's and the media has. Sorry.
According to this asshole's budget online,1500 expected to retire in 2012 and 0 hired. The 49 in the academy now are from Daley's budget and were expedited through the process to meet the deadline before 'ol 4 fingers took over. There's a handful of recruits done with the process and just waiting for a class to start. Others are still going for their poly and have the medical left. Either way, if they clear background or not, this piece of shit isn't putting up money for a new class or anything else CPD needs. Be safe out there!!!
Wow, dinosaur Dan Garcia from 001 to retire, after 50years on the job. Time to go ,not? You and Sgt.mulligan. sgt. larissey, and all the others staying 50 years; what's wrong with you guys?
1/16/2012 08:09:00 PM
Some people like being the police
Lot of ex-military veterans would love a job with benefits. Have you ever tried to look for a real job? There are thousands of candidates with a decent education that would love this job. Wake up asshat.
1/16/2012 07:14:00 PM
What the fuck is this? a fake job? You think the majority of us just walked the fuck onto this job with no effort? I had to wait 4 years just to be fucking called for it after paying for and passing a written exam that 25,000 other people took. I then had to take a psych exam, oral psych evaluation, medical exam, 2 drug tests, 2 power tests, background check, interview with a background investigator, fill out mountains of paperwork, and produce 2 years of college credit. Then I got to report to the training academy for 6 months and pay $4,500 out of my pocket just to buy the gear required to do the job such as a gun and uniforms. Then train for another 3 months with an FTO. So what's it like going to find a "REAL JOB" asshole?
Anonymous said...
Why is none of the shit we see walking around the northside districts stopped. How many teams are there, and what do they do?
1/17/2012 12:50:00 AM
They patrol the south side districts where they are detailed to.
and how many of those assholes took a 13B furlo to fuck one of his co-workers out of it? the old "I might change my mind excuse doesn't work because 55 and out locks you in. thanks, jagoffs.
PLEASE!!!!!! officers in these districts, be the police!!!
1/16/2012 12:31:00 PM
Right, because when the Revs, Feds, Channel 2 and "public outrage" demand my hide I'm sure YOU will be there to help.
The time has come for strategic de-policing. Let society see the wound they have incurred with no bandages applied.
Quit your complaining, you are luck the ward boss got you this job!!
Just A City Worker said...
1/16/2012 10:48:00 AM
I've been saying it for years.
GO AFTER the Politicians in this city.
The Aldermen and women wear a badge...they are legally allowed to be recorded without a wiretap permit from the courts because the City Alderpeople are classified as LEO and can Carry. Same for the Mayor. Same for ALL City Directors.
No City Employee has the legal expectation to privacy while inside of a City Facility.
1/16/2012 04:22:00 PM
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And what was in that pipe??
Why is none of the shit we see walking around the northside districts stopped. How many teams are there, and what do they do?
1/17/2012 12:50:00 AM
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Dude, it's called Section 8. This "shit" you refer to actually LIVE in your neighborhood now!
to 06:43 am.....know the entire situation before you begin to spread such a rumor. You sound awfully tough behind a keyboard. Ask them for yourself what happened if you feel you have such a say so in the matter. You sound like a fifteen year old girl at a slumber party spreading shit around you know nothing about. Oh wait....did you hear that...mommy said lunch is ready so come up from the basement and eat before your tour. Clown.
Sorry fine citizen I can't do that anymore. You didn't like it when I did stop "the animal" in the past. You thought we were messing with the poor misguided youth of America. You went as far as to video tape me (leaving only what you wanted to be seen) and make complaints on me. So again Im sorry but I have a family to feed and support, so I will not stop (I'll read between your lines- the black or hispanic)just because he is walking freely down your street and not breaking any laws "YET" Good luck Mr. Citizen and also you can thank Rahm, Garry, Daley, Quinn, Madigan and a few other politicians for this.
1/16/2012 06:02:00 PM
Do you still call yourself the police? I bet you do. You probably even tell war stories don't you? Thats why the savages have zero respect because of "officers" like you. Grow some balls. From two years on the job to twenty years on the job, have some fuckin pride. Be the police again. We have to show these new recruits coming out of the academy the last year, that dont have a fucking clue, that WE need to be the police again.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Until there is documented proof that the city needs more officers none will be hired. The murder rate has not gone up. Gun recoveries last year were way up over 2010. The crime rate is not up. So if you were the mayor would you be in a hurry to hire more? As long as you have idiot po s that volunteer to have their contractual rights violated and continue to go above and beyond, nothing will change..
1/16/2012 07:14:00 PM
Very good point. Officers keep bitching about low manpower but if you were the C.E.O. of a company and if productivity increased year over year, would you hire more employees? It's elementary my dear Watson.
11 bucks a week would have been a 12% raise when I was in the academy....
that was when you were still called Fort Dearborn Constablary
Sorry fine citizen I can't do that anymore. You didn't like it when I did stop "the animal" in the past. You thought we were messing with the poor misguided youth of America. You went as far as to video tape me (leaving only what you wanted to be seen) and make complaints on me. So again Im sorry but I have a family to feed and support, so I will not stop (I'll read between your lines- the black or hispanic)just because he is walking freely down your street and not breaking any laws "YET" Good luck Mr. Citizen and also you can thank Rahm, Garry, Daley, Quinn, Madigan and a few other politicians for this.
1/16/2012 06:02:00 PM
Do you still call yourself the police? I bet you do. You probably even tell war stories don't you? Thats why the savages have zero respect because of "officers" like you. Grow some balls. From two years on the job to twenty years on the job, have some fuckin pride. Be the police again. We have to show these new recruits coming out of the academy the last year, that dont have a fucking clue, that WE need to be the police again.
1/17/2012 01:08:00 PM
I'll tell you what... you show the new recruits how to be the police and smile for the cameras. I'm going to write a few parkers, go home to my family, still have my paycheck deposited, my house, my freedom, and my assets in tact. Anybody that thinks you can "be the police again" in this day and age is fucking delusional. You're not even allowed to make an honest mistake on this job now without severe repercussions. Go ahead and just give Rahm and McCarthy an excuse to fire your ass. They're looking to thin the herd any way they can.
P.S. I don't tell war stories because I don't even talk about this shitty job when I'm off duty and I sure as hell don't let anyone know that I'm the police. I don't know what we are anymore but none of us are the police. We're more like report/ticket writers. The few that are still running around acting like the real police will be weeded out sooner rather than later... you can count on it.
What the fuck is this? a fake job? You think the majority of us just walked the fuck onto this job with no effort? I had to wait 4 years just to be fucking called for it after paying for and passing a written exam that 25,000 other people took. I then had to take a psych exam, oral psych evaluation, medical exam, 2 drug tests, 2 power tests, background check, interview with a background investigator, fill out mountains of paperwork, and produce 2 years of college credit. Then I got to report to the training academy for 6 months and pay $4,500 out of my pocket just to buy the gear required to do the job such as a gun and uniforms. Then train for another 3 months with an FTO. So what's it like going to find a "REAL JOB" asshole?
1/17/2012 07:14:00 AM
I believe the job he's talking about is the one where you're a paper away from having your master's and they start you at 30k, your benefits don't start till after your 90 day probation so you end up at the County Hospital so you can afford to treat your athlete's food, you basically get little to no comp time, no overtime..they conveniently forget to tell your department about "summer hours" until the last day you get to use them, they ask you to come in on the weekends and "volunteer" for extra work that gets you no pay, no credit, no preference...then you get excited because you get a 4k raise until you realize a week later that you're still making 34k, plus they pass you over for the internal openings and the one they offer you has NO PAY CHANGE...and you still owe Sallie Mae thousands of dollars. I think that's the job he is talking about, the one causing all the previously white collar career bound people to have a change of heart. Fact is, I like law enforcement but all jokes aside I've never interviewed for a position with a higher salary than a copper's with a great resume, good references, military background, education, civic involvement and everything else. The jobs outside the police department are much worse when it comes to pay and benefits. My dad hated when I said I wanted to be a cop and tried to talk me out of it. He wanted me to "have it better than him." After I broke down the math and opportunities to him and he watched me a few years, guess whose my biggest fan? It does get much worse than this my friend.
"Native" south or west sides? When the "greatest generation" lived on the south side the neighborhoods were beautiful. The southside went to hell after the great migration from Mississippi. The democrat's welfare system was quite appealing.
1/16/2012 09:20:00 AM
The greatest generation were benefactors of government aid and military benefits, the same ones I used. Let's not pretend like the middle class wasn't heavily financed and built up by the federal government.I have the utmost respect for them and they paved the way for us newjack service members but lets not kid ourselves. I don't care who moves in your neighborhood, if there is a high rate of unemployment and low wages there will be a high rate of everything else you don't want. My grandfather is the hardest working man Ive ever witnessed and didnt stop until he got old, fell off a tractor while working and was pinned under it for about a day...old school farmhand type of worker that moved here for the opportunity. You need to read some history before you just run off at the mouth. People came here to work. Of course there were bums in the mix but has that ever not been the case?
Very good point. Officers keep bitching about low manpower but if you were the C.E.O. of a company and if productivity increased year over year, would you hire more employees? It's elementary my dear Watson.
Frightening post!There are more out there thinking like this! Beware! Until you get in trouble! Looking for that 2nd or 3rd CB could cost you your job or your freedom!
Do you still call yourself the police? I bet you do. You probably even tell war stories don't you? Thats why the savages have zero respect because of "officers" like you. Grow some balls. From two years on the job to twenty years on the job, have some fuckin pride. Be the police again. We have to show these new recruits coming out of the academy the last year, that dont have a fucking clue, that WE need to be the police again
Being the "police" is all over you moron! I was the police for 35+ and let me tell you, its OVER! You might as well sit down when you piss or else you will be doing that in the joint! The politicians run the city and when they need another "excuse" to curb the police they will give them YOU! Then, you can tell them stories in your cell about how you "used to be the police!"
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Do you still call yourself the police? I bet you do. You probably even tell war stories don't you? Thats why the savages have zero respect because of "officers" like you. Grow some balls. From two years on the job to twenty years on the job, have some fuckin pride. Be the police again. We have to show these new recruits coming out of the academy the last year, that dont have a fucking clue, that WE need to be the police again.
1/17/2012 01:08:00 PM<<<
I have been the POLICE for well over twenty years and I have saved a few lives and a lot of asses during that time. Now I try to teach all that to a lot of new people and I am glad the smart ones listen.
Now here is a question for everyone who ever wore a blue shirt on this job no matter what rank you are now.
Did we ever need some twerp from the FBI or some Bozo from the NYPD to tell us how to run this Department?
Stay Safe and take that attitude with you to work.
I hate to take up your time with this, but do people really believe that there were 13,500 PO’s (Blue shirts) at some point in the their career? Anytime I have heard that number it always was referred to as a department strength. That being said I took the Position/Salary Schedule and ran the title codes. Here are the results:
9161 PO 9,422
9206 ET's 93
9174 Police Agent 21
9170 PO-Armorer 00
9169 PO-Mounted 25
9168 PO-Marine 38
9164 PO-FTO 67
9163 PO-Print Tech 13
9155 PO-Arbit 12
9153 PO- Expl K9 27
9152 PO-K9 24
9151 PO-Traf Spec 24
9126 Police Tech 8
9165 PO-Detective 971
9213 Firearm Tech I 2
9201 PO-For Inv I 19
9166 PO-Sup Laten 1
9160 PO-Secu Spec 12
9158 Expl Tech 18
9156 PO-Supv Sub Abuse Cns 1
9015 PO-Legal Officer I 14
9171 Sergeant 1,117
9202 PO-Forensic Inv II 0
9173 Lieutenant 206
9159 Expl Tech II 0
9016 Legal Off II 5
9175 Captain/XO 43
9157 Expl Tech III 0
9017 Legal Officer III 0
9752 Commander 46
9796 ADS/Deputy Chief 7
9785 Chief 9
9781 1st Deputy 1
Add them up and if I didn’t screw up my math the GRAND TOTAL of SWORN PERSONNEL is: 12,236 (Not counting the Sup’t)…. Now granted I cannot account for those on the medical and light/convalescent duty, but this is the number so if we go with the 13,500 number always quoted we are deficient 1,264 sworn personnel…. This was as of 11 January 2012, I know as of today's date we lost 10 sergeants....
And Deputy Superintendent Debra Kirby was planning on training 13000 blue shirts in areas of mass arrests....huh?
Dream On, there will never be that many recruits in the academy ever. We are lucky if they hire 100 this year.
Since the F.O.P. isn't interested in our well being can we collectively reach out to a large private law firm to air our grievances about the upcoming disaster in May? This disaster was invited ON the city by Emanuel, and our personnel safety is at risk by his cuts and neglect. We need to be more vocal.
The ideal date to retire for continuity of receiving paychecks and pension checks is the 15th of the month. 15 May sounds like a PERFECT retirement date to me!
1/16/2012 02:23:00 AM
Under 55 years of age, the optimal day is 15 February, if you do not care, want or need to wait for an anniversary date.
55 years of age and over, the optimal day is 15 November, again, if you do not care, want or need to wait for an anniversary date.
Otherwise, the 15th of any month you desire is as good as the 15th of any other month.
And, if you have to go because the job et al just makes you sick to your stomach and you cannot wait any longer, or you hit the mega-millions jackpot or powerball, you can go any fucking day your heart desires!
(my dad would have done it in a heartbeat to get away from mom for a few hours a day!)
1/16/2012 04:19:00 PM
Oh yeah? If the old man got a job after life at the CPD, your Mom would have been going #2) Whoo Hoo-Again, I'm free of the old pain in the ass!
The city and FOP should have been funding the pension properly in the first place. I asked before how come we don't have 80/20 retirement? I was told by a previous FOP rep. The pension was never intended to be funded that way.
I believe the job he's talking about is the one where you're a paper away from having your master's and they start you at 30k, your benefits don't start till after your 90 day probation so you end up at the County Hospital so you can afford to treat your athlete's food, you basically get little to no comp time, no overtime..they conveniently forget to tell your department about "summer hours" until the last day you get to use them, they ask you to come in on the weekends and "volunteer" for extra work that gets you no pay, no credit, no preference...then you get excited because you get a 4k raise until you realize a week later that you're still making 34k, plus they pass you over for the internal openings and the one they offer you has NO PAY CHANGE...and you still owe Sallie Mae thousands of dollars. I think that's the job he is talking about, the one causing all the previously white collar career bound people to have a change of heart. Fact is, I like law enforcement but all jokes aside I've never interviewed for a position with a higher salary than a copper's with a great resume, good references, military background, education, civic involvement and everything else. The jobs outside the police department are much worse when it comes to pay and benefits. My dad hated when I said I wanted to be a cop and tried to talk me out of it. He wanted me to "have it better than him." After I broke down the math and opportunities to him and he watched me a few years, guess whose my biggest fan? It does get much worse than this my friend.
1/17/2012 05:36:00 PM
So then we're arguing about the quality of the benefits between the job of Police Officer and other jobs. Well that argument can always be made by anyone in a worse job. I'm sure the guy working at McDonald's thinks the guy starting at 30k a year is doing too well. Let's give you some more police facts though. When I started with the CPD 12 years ago I was making 33.5 k per year. It cost us 4.5k just to join. We were on probation with little to no benefits for an entire year and could be fired for no reason whatsoever during that time. Do we make a decent buck on the CPD... sure we do, but with that comes the fact that you might not go home, you can be injured, fired, sued, killed. You can be disciplined for countless infractions and for decisions you had seconds to make in a dangerous situation, by some asshole that now has days to monday morning quarterback what you did from behind his desk. You get to work midnights, afternoons, rotating shifts, holidays. Get to go to court on your days off. Just about everyone hates your guts. You get your lifespan shortened from the stress and hours (this is a universal fact of policing). My intention isn't to complain though. This is a decent job, with decent benefits, and I'm glad I have a job especially in these tough economic times. My intention here is to point out that this is a "REAL JOB". It wasn't easy to get, it isn't easy to do. Our benefits and pay are earned and deserved by the majority of us. I'm just tired of people making this job out to be all peaches and cream like you just walk the fuck on and start collecting a 70k a year salary from day one and don't have to do shit to receive it. And don't even get my started on promotional opportunities. If you've got 10 or less years on the CPD currently, you haven't even been afforded the opportunity for a promotion. My point is... this is a REAL JOB and it has both good and bad aspects to it like every other job. Stop making the police out to be do nothings sitting on piles of riches because it just ain't true.
to 06:43 am.....know the entire situation before you begin to spread such a rumor. You sound awfully tough behind a keyboard. Ask them for yourself what happened if you feel you have such a say so in the matter. You sound like a fifteen year old girl at a slumber party spreading shit around you know nothing about. Oh wait....did you hear that...mommy said lunch is ready so come up from the basement and eat before your tour. Clown.
You must work in the 30 sector stroke face.Go figures. Sit Ubu sit.Keep packing T/S's lunch whimp.
False on that 150 number. There were 55 people on the list to bring their stuff and get their retirement star and ID. How do I know, I was one of them. Stay Safe out there because the prancing mayor and McJersey Shore don't give a damn about anyone but themselves.
Anonymous said...
"Native" south or west sides? When the "greatest generation" lived on the south side the neighborhoods were beautiful. The southside went to hell after the great migration from Mississippi. The democrat's welfare system was quite appealing.
1/16/2012 09:20:
You are ignorant. I guess all black folks living in Chicago came from Mississippi. Trust me relief,welfare,or food stamps or whatever you want to call it was not solely created for black folks.If you studied U.S history you would know why the "Great Migration" took place. And by the way just so you'll know who you are. Read the book titled "A Traitor To His Class." Notice I wrote class. Its about FDR's policies to uplift poor and working Americans,and how the one percenters despised FDR for it. You know,the Du Ponts, Rockefellers,Vanderbilts,J.P. Morgan,John Paul Getty those people.
Anonymous said...
the coppers in 016, 017, 019, 020,022, 023.....PLEASE!!!!!! officers in these districts, be the police!!!
The problem in most of these districts are the bosses. Too many jag off, no balls, pussified white shirts that cry over trrs, fear ass beatings, run away with tasers in their cars, fearful of the boogy man lawsuits and ipra because they were never working police! This is what supervises in these districts for the most part. The tact secratary made Capt now reviews, and comments negatively over every arrest you make. Tells you he will help the bad guy put a case on you rather then chance losing his spot because your out there doing your job! They create watches full of dogs who dot i and cross t for parkers with pressed uniforms but fear every step a real cop takes!!
if no classes at academy why manpower, put them on the street where they belong, put light duty on desks and get rid of the civilians!!! Place needs to be investigated, alot of ghost payrolling going on there! To many people involved, new regime needs to take over.
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