It's Baaaaaack
- City officials have agreed to issue a permit for the South Side Irish Parade to be held again this March, despite concerns about security connected to the St. Patrick’s Day event that organizers shut down in 2009 after widespread drunken fighting and assaults on Chicago police officers.
The South Side Irish Parade Committee hopes to return the Beverly neighborhood event to its family-oriented roots while continuing to draw the massive crowds that, after the parade was launched in 1979, became a bonanza for local taverns and other Southwest Side businesses.
Organizers of the March 11 event are considering setting up checkpoints manned by private security guards, making the parade route along Western Avenue shorter and cracking down more forcefully on outdoor drinking in an effort to quell unruly behavior in nearby parks and residential streets, parade committee chairman Joseph Connelly said Saturday.
Of course, this could be a model for all future parades and festivals. Pay your own way, maintain your own security, assume all of your own liability. Apply this to the PR fest, PRIDE, Billiken and assorted other celebrations.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Nice to see the Guides still have juice. Since the bar owners are the ones responsible for this.
All you Hair Gels clamoring to be part of CPD's next 'elite' unit by joining MFF had better put the rush on the uniform store to fit and order your Turtle Gear.
Looks like you're gonna get some pre-NATO practice battling drunken Western Avenue leprechauns come March.
Speaking of drunken leprechauns, I hear our very own Stoopidintendent McStillery is slated to be the Grand Marshal of this South Side travesty. Irony at it's finest.
OT why were our duty avail for $755 when they were supposed to bump up to $805?
This if terrible and it will be a shit show. I hope all the parade committee members lose their houses and property as a result. Fucking assholes never asked for the neighborhoods feelings on this shit.
I have been looking at the MCC and can't find where it says one can't go do the street with a cooler of beer and have it taken away. Further it's a violation of civil rights to search coolers and bags on the public way. I see a law suit in the works.
Call it The Miller South Side Irish Parade. Miller Beer is putting up $50,000 as the sponsor. Interesting since its zero tolerance for alcohol.
Good, it' only fair. Didn't see anybody canceling the Bud Billiken Parade which is easily 10 times more dangerous and savage.
Funny how the mother fuckers complain about the irish parade. But yet you will never see them conduct any form of rules for bud bilikin parade
Do you really think the city would demand this of the PR parade and Bud Biliken? If you do I've got a bridge for sale.
FUCK!!!!!!!!! I can't belive this.......None ever learns
The local bar owners ALL said it was their best day of the year, profit-wise.
One grocery store owner on the news said it was always his biggest business day of the year... last parade they sold 10 TONS of corned beef... That's right! 2000 pounds per ton times TEN!
You think there weren't some cash envelopes changing hands with the Aldermen on this one?
YOU BETCHA!
I'm Irish and celebrate at home,quitely with the family. If you need a parade to justify your existence so bad, there is a parade, every year in the downtown area.
I will have my case on ice and ready!!!!!!
They aren't paying thier own way.
They got a 80k donation from some businesses for the security portion, (not the CPD security portion)
This will be worse than ever before because how can a private security force enforce any rule or law on the public way?
Is McDrunkin going to deputize them?
It's been quiet. Too bad, nice while it lasted.
SCC, you hit it on the head, this could be the model for future parades and special events in the city. Never before has a group contracted with a security company to provide a security presence at a parade. With that being said this event cannot be a success without the assistance of the Chicag Police Department. It is imperative that the Police assigned to this event enforce ALL city ordinances. The residents of the Beverly area ask that individuals who violate these ordinances be ticketed and or arrested.
Pay your own way, maintain your own security, assume all of your own liability. Apply this to the PR fest, PRIDE, Billiken and assorted other celebrations.
Hahahaha.....good one SCC.
I guess we will see just how politically correct our new mayor is this year.
Oh no, not the drunken piss fest parade. And most don't even live in Chicago. Lots of suburbanites just coming to the city to play the fool.
Perhaps the city could use these events as practice for the G-8 summit?
SCC, you don't actually believe that this will be equally applied to the Pertain Rican Fest, gay pride parade, and the Bud Billiken parade, do you?
its the easiest detail ive ever worked. very friendly. no blanket hatred for the police like pr fest or bud.
Oh Boy Drunkfest is back ... Hope it snows
Just a reminder, the Puerto Rican Festival does not pay one thin dime for permits, sanitation, use of the park, Police or Fire or the fees paid to the parking meter company for blocking THEIR meters.
We pay the bill, all of it, and the Puerto Rican Committee pockets all proceeds. Millions of the taxpayers money and for their it they get closed streets, shootings and other crime. No sacrifice there.
They got the permit last year too and had 50 people walk around the block on parade day at 8am. Got the permit this year, but don't expect a real parade until 2013. Not enough time to organize one for 2012.
Old Retired Guy Here;
I am not Irish, I never lived on the south side of Chicago. I was never detailed to this parade, and never felt bad about it. All that said.
I admire, what these people are doing. It's time that a group of middle class white people. "Strut Their Stuff". As long as the drinking does not get out of hand, "Why Not"
Emanuel is laughing his ass off.
He knows he can buy the affections of the (substantial) besotted population of the 19th Ward by allowing them to piss, fight, vomit, and defecate in public one day per year.
The only question is: Will he be able to keep his police superintendent from joining in?
NYPD loves coming to SSIP to act like jagoffs.
As a Beverly resident, I cannot begin to tell you how much this pisses me off. The "parade" is a colossal pain in the ass and an embarrassment to the neighborhood. The fact that a cabal of connected saloon owners / "professional irishmen" are able to subvert the will of the majority of their neighbors is an outrage.
Here's an idea - you want an "Irish Pride Puke and Punch Up Festival"? Do it on 111th between California and Kedzie. Fucking U2 listenin', Miller Lite drinkin', no neck Mt. Greenwood harpbillies...
“If we’re allowed, we could have a couple bus drop-off points with a police presence, where they will be searched coming off the buses,” Connelly said. “If someone’s coming off a bus intoxicated, they could detain them or not allow them to go on to the parade.”
What is wrong with this statement?
1. You can't control where buses drop people off, they are private buses on a public street.
2. Police presence where the buses stop and search everyone. Violation of rights Lawyers would love this one
3. What if they are coming off the bus with a case of Beer on the public way, what law have they broken? None
4. If they come off the bus intoxicated, they could detain them or not allow them to go on to the parade.
Detain them for what? Again no laws broken. Not allow them to go to the parade. Cant do this either.
This guy has no clue to what he is saying unless he is saying he wants the police to violate everyones rights so he can have a parade
Maybe this will be the first deployment for the MFF'ers.
Wow, this really says something about the 19th Ward. O'Shea is not in control, he wanted no part of it. So, it stands to reason that Skinny Sheahan and family still run the 19th Ward, along with he Joyce family.
I cannot believe none of the reporters touched on this part of the story. So much simpler to tell the sheep that it is back and not look into it any further.
An Alderman just got bitched slapped by a "civilian".... Only in Chicago.
Great, there goes more of my Tax Dollars up in smoke. Why should I have to foot the cost of police , paramedics, streets and san. Personel , all to babysit a bunch of drunken goof? Let whoever wants this debaucle pay for Private Security for the parade. Who wants to see a bunch of Labor Union Socialists and DemocRAT Politicians going down the street with signs anyway? Let THEM pay for it. Man these Democrats, got Tax Dollars to piss away on every form of Bullshit, but none for a raise for the Police, who do far more work here than any other group of State, County, or Municipal Employees amywhere. Then, when they do get a paultry raise, out come these patasite Democrat Politicians with all sorts of Tax and Fee increases, and take our raise and more right back. I swear, Chicago and Crook County have the dumbest Taxpayers here that I've ever seen in my entire life. And here we go again....
As a resident of Beverly I am not happy about them bringing this back. If they asked me I would of said NO.
But I do like your part SCC about having the organizers pay for their own security for these things. Or paying for the cost of ALL of the city services. ESPECIALLY if it is more then a 1 day parade. That includes the PR Fest & Bud Billiken. ThePR Fest has a 4or5 day party & the Bud has a all day party.
I gues they already have the second assignment for the new MFF!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT why were our duty avail for $755 when they were supposed to bump up to $805?
1/15/2012 12:58:00 AM
Because technically that check was for 2011. Your April check will be correct.
And the southside jagoff parade won't disappoint again. Stop the drinking? HA
OT why were our duty avail for $755 when they were supposed to bump up to $805?
1/15/2012 12:58:00 AM
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Ugggg. This was discussed days ago in various threads. 755 this time and it will be 805 next time for sure. The duty we got on 7 jan was for the previous quarter from last year and the new raise for duty didn't kick in until 01 jan.
South Side get Drunk and Act like a Fool Day is back.
Ive suggested turning back the buses that are chartered which bring a lot of the fools into the neighborhood. Simple idea,dont know how hard it would be to implement. Simply stop the buses as they exit I-57. the occupants can easily be observed drinking in the motor vehicle. The bus driver has a choice, recieve the ticket for open alcohol and subsequent impound , or turn it around and head back to where it came from.
It wouldnt get them all, but it would make a dent in the invasion of drunken morons coming in to fight,throw up,piss on themselves and be victims of the date rapes in the alleys.
Good, it' only fair. Didn't see anybody canceling the Bud Billiken Parade which is easily 10 times more dangerous and savage.
You have most likely never worked either. They are both shit details to work at. Further the neighbor hood does not want the South Side Parade the drunks do.
This will be worse than ever before because how can a private security force enforce any rule or law on the public way?
Off duty CPD and Cook County Sheriff
Parade privatization has begun already....
The new general services commissioner
Hasn't sent out the city stage for the last three city sponsored events.
I wonder why we even have a special events dept in the city if they are not going to let these guys work?
The worst pasrade of them all.Suburban white and southside irish drunks together. Give me Bud Biliken.
Liquor is the Devil's lubricant. hehhehehehehehe
I dont think it ever should have been cancelled.
OT why were our duty avail for $755 when they were supposed to bump up to $805?
1/15/2012 12:58:00 AM
This check was for the PAST. No increase.
The next check will cover the PRESENT. There's your increase.
Anonymous said...
OT why were our duty avail for $755 when they were supposed to bump up to $805?
1/15/2012 12:58:00 AM
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It will be $805 on the next one 07APR12. It was $755 this last one because the new one takes effect after 01JAN12.
The PR parade is not the bulk of the problem during the PR Festival days. The actual problems begin on Saturday afternoon and run until well after midnight on Sunday when the gangs, who have come in from all over the country, gather in Humboldt Park, and west of the park, at the intersection of Beach and Homan, which has become the defacto gathering spot for multiple gangs to congregate each year.
Over the last several years the problem has exacerbated to the point where the neighbors have all but given up and now go into protection mode because there is little they can do to prevent the streets from literally being shut down by the gangs who congregate at the intersection.
In 2010, it required more than 65 squad cars, a tact team, and 5 hours to clean up the mess on the Sunday night of the festival. There were 11 shootings in the area and 4 deaths occurred because of the situaiton.
In 2011, the residents became proactive and worked actively with the District Commander of 014, who also got the Commander of 013 involved. We were given full and direct access to the CPD teams in charge of the police activity for the Festival, and this helped a lot.
The interaction and cooperation of the residents and Districts 013 and 014 was extremely effective and, with the exception of a major incident when CPD closed the festival in the Park at 10.00 PM on Sunday night, we did not have nearly the problems of prior years.
The issue, however, is the extreme cost of both personnel and the taxing of the resources of CPD.
There were close to 1,200 officers deployed to the PR Festival in Humboldt Park on Friday, Saturday, and Sunday in 2011. There is no reason that number of police personnel should be required.
While I uphold the rights of any group to celebrate their diversity, it is also up to the group to educate their participants. I also believe that it should be the responsibility of the group to cover the costs of the security for the event.
Neither Chicago, nor any other municipality, has the financial resources to continue to cover the costs required by the security of these festivals.
While the parks, and the events which take place in them, are, by law, perpetually free to residents of Chicago, any time one organization or group creates a situation which requires an enormous uptick in security requirements, the cost of those requirements should be squarely borne upon the shoulders of the group responsible for the event.
This if terrible and it will be a shit show. I hope all the parade committee members lose their houses and property as a result. Fucking assholes never asked for the neighborhoods feelings on this shit.
I'm not thrilled about the news, especially after getting word that the parade permit was granted over the alderman's objections after he reviewed the plan with some folks in CPD. In O'Shea's words, the plan was inadequate to ensure safety.
I'm writing to Raccoon Eyes and CDOT, asking that the parade permit be revoked unless the organizers come up with something better than their "hope and a prayer" plan. I don't want to see another violent mess like what we got the last 2 times the parade was held.
thank GOD iam on furlough.... that shit show had made me asshamed to be Irish since all the suburban fucks started going to it in the late 90's.....
It has already been a model parade, think about it? It Got enough out of hand and got shut down or it shut itself down. Way worse things happen at these other events and there is no end in sight, and no real forthcoming regulation. The problem with any public event is you get enough people who are not invested in the event or from the area so they think it's a free for all.
Anonymous said...
OT why were our duty avail for $755 when they were supposed to bump up to $805?
1/15/2012 12:58:00 AM
Because the Jan Duty availability is for the last quarter of 2011. The new rate is for 2012 for which the first quarter is paid out in April.
Funny how the mother fuckers complain about the irish parade. But yet you will never see them conduct any form of rules for bud bilikin parade
Which is held in an area where that kind of shit happens any other time ANYWAY. Do you think people act like that in Beverly and Morgan Park any of the OTHER 51 weekends out of the year???
Good, it' only fair. Didn't see anybody canceling the Bud Billiken Parade which is easily 10 times more dangerous and savage
Funny how the mother fuckers complain about the irish parade. But yet you will never see them conduct any form of rules for bud bilikin parade
What kind of horse shit logic is that? First, the city never canceled anything. The cooler heads on the parade committee had seen enough, they canceled their own event. Now the softball element on the committee who are viewing through emerald colored glasses are bringing back a bad idea. They are also spending city money, which is in short supply, to stroke their already inflated egos.
You clowns seem to think that the neighborhood doesn't have the right to beef because it is not as bad as Bud? Caucasian....please.
It is the only time I'm happy to see SWAP because they are picking up your trash as you appear unwilling or unable. They are also getting double hour credit for putting up with the bullshit and not tearing your heads off. SWAP convicts then get to go home secure in their belief that at least there is a lower element in the city and that it is you.
Shine box....go get it
I live in the area and I hate to see it return, I would rather work bud biliken parade any time. At least the home boys will stop fighting when they see you coming. You can't say the same for the drunk fake ass irish who invade the city from the suburbs taking drinking to another level.
Anonymous said...
Nice to see the Guides still have juice. Since the bar owners are the ones responsible for this.
1/15/2012 12:17:00 AM
Amazing!
Jailbirds come out and embrace politicans to secure a tavern by Cominsky and the one in Beverly.
Why don't the politicans have a law/rule against fraternizing with felons.
Even though felons are cannot obtain a liquor license (he used hes son)this guy is a millionare now!
For those that don't know:
In 1982 a federal court jury convicted Guide and nine other Chicago police officers, known as the "Marquette 10," of accepting bribes to allow two 24-hour heroin rings to operate in the Marquette District.
Anonymous said...
Call it The Miller South Side Irish Parade. Miller Beer is putting up $50,000 as the sponsor. Interesting since its zero tolerance for alcohol.
1/15/2012 01:43:00 AM
Heard Anheuser-Busch matched that and that the committee was initially approached by Bud to bring back the parade.
It was necessary to restart this parade in order so crossbreeding could resume between Canaryville and Mt Plywood.
Five generations of inbreeding is not a pretty sight.
Simple solution. CPD, ISP, CCSPD, Blue Island, Oak Lawn, EP all working together. Fuck, why not throw in court and jail deputies too. Bring down the jail buses. Arrest everybody. Pissing on the street, drinking, fighting. Zero tolerance. It works at mardi gras every year and that's a lot bigger than a one day bullshit parade.
Do the orginizers of bud biliken parade have to have their own security???? hopefully rahm makes them pay their own way too....
Think rahm gave the permitt because he knows it will piss off o shea and he won t stand up to rahm...he'll bend down and kiss his ass like all the other aldercreatures.....
Il tell you one thing the Irish Parade in its entirety is nothing compare to the mayhem PR fest, Bud Billiken (this one especially), and fiesta del sol....I dont beleive homicides and agg batts really occur to much around the crowds in Mt. Greenwood!
South Side get Drunk and Act like a Fool Day is back.
1/15/2012 11:46:00 AM
Anonymous tik said...
Ive suggested turning back the buses that are chartered which bring a lot of the fools into the neighborhood. Simple idea,dont know how hard it would be to implement. Simply stop the buses as they exit I-57. the occupants can easily be observed drinking in the motor vehicle. The bus driver has a choice, recieve the ticket for open alcohol and subsequent impound , or turn it around and head back to where it came from.
It wouldnt get them all, but it would make a dent in the invasion of drunken morons coming in to fight,throw up,piss on themselves and be victims of the date rapes in the alleys.
1/15/2012 11:48:00 AM
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The law allows for open alcohol on busses for the passengers.
Wont be going but def putting in for furlo that day!!
This whole issue is about money. The bars make a ton on this day and whatever security company has this contract will do the same. Meanwhile the taxpayers are left footing the bill for everything else.
Matty (Ice) O'Shea just had his lunch handed to him by the RAHMINATOR! He could not carry the 19th Ward for Rahm during the election because too many right thinking police voted for Gary Chico. Rahm will NEVER forget this, and has already made plans to replace Matty (Ice) next election. Matty (Ice) tried to get some input into who was going to be the new 022nd District commander and he was summarily dismissed like a bitch! Nice political career Matty.... hope you have some other jobs skills cuz you are done in Cook County as a politician. Can you pass the power test? Never mind, they aint hiring anyway!
Old Retired Guy Here;
I am not Irish, I never lived on the south side of Chicago. I was never detailed to this parade, and never felt bad about it. All that said.
I admire, what these people are doing. It's time that a group of middle class white people. "Strut Their Stuff". As long as the drinking does not get out of hand, "Why Not"
1/15/2012 09:39:00 AM
Old Retired Guy:
So Am I(Retired). I have worked EVERY SSI Parade in one capacity or another. This cluster fuck has gone from "quality of life" issues, to CRIMINAL ISSUES.
Many 10-1's,windows of business' broken out,sexual incidents,you name it.
Ald O'Shea is right-this thing is not for this neighborhood any more.
My Dad is almost 80 YOA,lives a few blocks off of Western, and has the baseball bat waiting at the door every parade day.He has had chance to use it a few times too. Nice way to live huh?
can you tell me if it will be possible to sue the parade organizers if/when my property gets damaged again...as it always does when this drunkin parade comes around???.....please let me know ,so I can contact the right law firm....thanks
"Not enough time to organize one for 2012."
It's a fucking parade...
well said, i have worked them all, so a bunch of people drinking with the family and having fun at a parade that happens once a year, yes i am totally against the jagoffs coming into the neighborhood and disrespecting the property. i hope it goes feel.
and you my friend are most likely a public defender or live east of long wood dr.
This is funny, by making the parade shorter, you put more people near the bars. In addition to the eastside of the street, 112-114th & Western was where a lot of the families went.
As the city now admits, they are on the hook to pay the owner of the parking stations every time there is a parade or snow storm where money cannot be put in the pay boxes. This is even worse then paying 18 million for the handicapped card holders. Our alderman could not have read this contract before approving it, ??
This whole issue is about money. The bars make a ton on this day and whatever security company has this contract will do the same. Meanwhile the taxpayers are left footing the bill for everything else.
1/15/2012 07:47:00 PM
Same security company that does work for the Park District and the Bears.
A little info for all you ignorant stereotype thinking idiots.The highest per capita households of all the city neighborhoods in Chicago???Mount Greenwood
One more reason I'm glad I don't live on the south side
I lived in Beverly for 30 years and the St. Patrick's day parade is the worst parade ever. The Irish think that they can do whatever they want too drinking openly, fighting, swearing, pissing, and puping on private property. The youth walk around drinking and fall out drunk all over the place. The adult think that this is alright, because they are Irish. Beer is everywhere. The taverns are packed over capacity and no one cares because it's St Patrick Day. You are a bunch of ignorant people who feel privledged. You cannot compare the Bud Biliken's parade to this garabage. There is no open drinking at the Bud Biliken parade. There are fights and the parade is approximately 6 hours but it is defintly more family oriented. So be honest if you can the St Pattick day parade is a total embrassment to the whole community. The rest of the city is able to see low lifes at work. Oh, I forgot " we are just having fun."
Signed someone who lived 30 years in Beverly and worked both parades.
Wow, this really says something about the 19th Ward. O'Shea is not in control, he wanted no part of it. So, it stands to reason that Skinny Sheahan and family still run the 19th Ward, along with he Joyce family.
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O'Shea would still be working in the gin mill if it weren't for the Sheahan and Joyce families.
Good, it' only fair. Didn't see anybody canceling the Bud Billiken Parade which is easily 10 times more dangerous and savage.
1/15/2012 02:40:00 AM
Nice try. I grew up going to Billiken and marched in the parade as a veteran. I only saw two incidents with my eyes...one being a people running because of a "gang fight" though we couldn't see the fight (when I was like 10) then when we marched in our deserts and one of my battle buddies almost got into a fight with some idiot who was taunting us. That's it. I moved to Beverly at 13...and I have waaay more stories about that parade including the drunken friends I stood next to at the Metra who were bleeding all over the place b/c they just finished fighting at 1030 in the morning or the bottles they threw at my school's marching band or let's not forget the girl that peed in CVS on the shelves and was never charged with anything. Try again pal.
Anonymous said...
Good, it' only fair. Didn't see anybody canceling the Bud Billiken Parade which is easily 10 times more dangerous and savage.
1/15/2012 02:40:00 AM
I hope somebody goes into your backyard and takes a shit!!! You know damn well that more people are arrested at Bud Billiken for DOPW than the south side parade. Police that parade the same way you would police Bud Billiken.
Old Retired Guy Here;
I am not Irish, I never lived on the south side of Chicago. I was never detailed to this parade, and never felt bad about it. All that said.
I admire, what these people are doing. It's time that a group of middle class white people. "Strut Their Stuff". As long as the drinking does not get out of hand, "Why Not"
1/15/2012 09:39:00 AM
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TRANSLATION: I have no ethnic, geographical or professional connection to it, and never did, which does not bother me, and I know nothing of the reasons it was abolished and I have no chance of suffering any consequences of any sort if it is reinstated, but as long as white people want to strut their stuff without being drunk, and it has nothing to do with me, I admire them. "Why Not"
[Why not? Your rhetorical questioned is posed as if you have stated a good case to reinstate the parade? You did nothing of the sort. Do a little research as to the reasons it was ended and you will have the answer to your foolish question.
And, in future, think before you start tapping on the keyboard or, at least, read your words with a critical eye before posting. Maybe, just maybe, you will realize the depth of your idiocy and how easily you offer your admiration for people unknown to you with motives unknown to you. You should be ashamed.
That said, it seems impossible that you were EVER a police officer!? Rather you are just an old, retired, out of touch guy here that has no previous connection to municipal urban law enforcement, who just likes to inflict his stupidity on others?]
I dont think it ever should have been cancelled.
1/15/2012 12:37:00 PM
Well, golly gee and boo-hoo. I don't think you have a brain in your head!
Absolutely a terrible idea bringing in private security. Use the 80k to pay CPD officers and bring in the cook county sheriffs, to bad this city is to hard headed to look else where for professional help. Going to a security company is a law suit waiting to happen.
Once again, I''m grateful that I'm retired, was able to sell my home in West Beverly" one block from Western, and move out of the city. Parade Day is the worse day ever. I worked almost every parade during my career, and was involved in many planning meetings with the parade committee, the department, and the city. There are alot of people from out of the area who cause trouble, but a big problem is that most everyone else is a city or county worker or a relative of one. Names get dropped, id's are flashed, and noone gets arrested, or at the very least, told to get rid of the alcohol. There definitely should have been a vote by the homeowners. It's all about the bars making the money. And forget their security, there are many underage drinkers inside, I have relatives who are included. I'm also half Irish and will enjoy a few far out of town. My sympathies to all who are still stuck living there. Bless all CPD who will be detailed to this awful event.
This shit show got way out of hand the last few years and was rightfully cancelled. Its an absolute embarassment to the neighborhood, not a source of pride as it once was. Just like everything else, it got ruined by greed and stupidity.
"I admire, what these people are doing. It's time that a group of middle class white people. "Strut Their Stuff".
Lived on the parade route for years. If this parade represents middle class white people strutting their stuff, then we are all fucked.
I can't wait for the parade this year. I live in Las vegas but grew up on the south side and went to the parade every year. I've got friends who live a block or two from western and I'll be going to the parade from their house.
It still baffles me how Chicago can't get a handle on a couple thousand revelers at a parade for less than 8 hours with almost 10,000 cops when Las Vegas Metro can handle 300,000 on the Strip and another 100,000 Downtown for New Years Eve every year...with a total force of 3,000.
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