Overetime Cuts
Rumors floating in from some of our sources:
- Hey SCC, have you heard this one?
Starting immediately, GEU (the Gang Enforcement Unit) will be limited to around 5,000 hours of overtime for the entire Unit for all of 2012.
That means no chasing down leads, tips and clues. Everything will be filed and passed onto the next crew for follow up. That also means pulling the gang guys off the street to do paper for the file. All court will be when on duty or you don't go, meaning the afternoon crews will be working days for Court appearances.
The Fugitive Unit is next, and supposedly, they are going to try to limit Detective overtime to 20 hours per member per pay period. Watch the clearance rate plummet to zero.
Sounds like a lot of Continuing Investigations and stalled charging. Those "volunteer units" like GEU and Fugitives are looking less and less desirable without the OT aspect. Anyone got the scoop on these?
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posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
100 Comments:
So are they going to tell you that you can't go to court?
Will never happen.
Put down the crack pipe.
Little slow on the uptake apparently,that edict came out 8years ago in the Detective Division.
Yes all true. This department is its own worst enemy. Pretty soon people are going to move to Detroit to get away from all the violence here.
Didn't the Economic Guru, Bill Clinton do this with FBI, CIA, DEA and the Marshals? How did THAT work out?
This will include court time.
very true.... was told today at roll call that ot was gojng to be cut severely in the D Unit.... Good Luck with that one.... It to shall pass.... Certain things you have no control over.... & OT in the D Unit is one of those things.... let us do our jobs!!!!!!!
Hey listen up.......these fucking morons tried this shit once before in 2003 was the most recent.
And they are paying for it now with 1-15 detectives being subpoeaned to court now for defense motions to quash arrests, line ups, suppress statements. So the "pass it off to the next watch" worked well.
So apparently these morons havent learned anything.
Any of you guys n gals give up your rights under the contract and your a TOOL!!!!!!
You don't want to pay me for working overtime? Fine. When that whistle blows at quitting time I am going home. Let someone else pick up the slack who is working on the clock. If I need more money I can pick up another part time job. This mayor has done more in his short time to gut this department than Daley did in 20 years. And that is saying a lot. But he isn't done yet. He will take away everything we have in June. And this little conniving bastard wants me to fight the Anarchist in the streets to make him look good. I would personally drive any of these bastards to his front door for free!
awwwwwww
Geu never should have been created. All they are are glorified tac teams, the mistake was putting them in organized crime; they now think they are of some kind of importance, they aren't . Bring them back to the districts to make arrests and clear corners, that is what their real job is supposed to be, not investigations; leave those to GIU, the real investigators.....
hahaha... suckers! keep working!
In an effort to get the crime numbers back up so that the politico's can increase their power, scope of influence by creating a crisis that demands more manpower and more taxes for higher budgets -- it's time to shut down some prisons and return the criminals back into the hood.
So why arrest anyone to just go thru the motions?
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SPRINGFIELD, Ill. (AP) — As part of a cost-reduction plan, Illinois Gov. Pat Quinn wants to close a prison that opened just 14 years ago as a cutting-edge facility for the state's most dangerous inmates.
But his plan to shutter the Tamms "supermax" lockup is raising questions about how the crowded correctional system could safely absorb its inmate population.
Aides said the Democratic governor wants to close the southern Illinois prison and the 80-year-old lockup in Dwight in a quest to cut $100 million, which he'll lay out Wednesday in his budget plan.
Also targeted are a half-dozen halfway houses for low-level offenders, who would be put on electronic detention and supervised by parole agents whose union says are already overtaxed.
Two juvenile detention centers and four facilities for the mentally ill or developmentally disabled also would cease operation, and human services and law enforcement operations would be consolidated in the Quinn plan.
A spokesman for the American Federation of State, County and Municipal Employees, which represents prison and human services workers, called the prisons "irreplaceable" because Tamms houses the most dangerous inmates and Dwight is the only maximum-security facility for women.
"Closing them would trigger a dangerous domino effect, destabilizing the entire correctional system and complicating an overcrowding epidemic," AFSCME's Anders Lindall said.
more >> http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/nationworld/sns-bc-il--illinoisbudget-prisons,0,1173325.story
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Destabilizing the correctional system? What about destabilizing the neighborhoods eh?
Using fear as a tool we can probably extract more taxes from the weak-minded middle class though.
Don't let the crisis go to waste now, ya hear!
Don't forget about Narcotics officers being told 15 hours per period including court appearances. They must be trying to save up for G8.
I was one of the guys from my gang team who chose not to go to G E U in 2009. It was a wise decision for me, because I still believe the unit will be disbanded from OCD eventually. Then the gangs teams will be back in the district.
I remember when Nick was the real Police, hEY NICK I guess you really did become 1 of those BOSSES!
Yup! I had a feeling this was going to happen. Next I can see the city from us from doing our jobs. No overtime for beat officer is going to be next and then let's see how the awesome mayor tells the citizens of this city crime is down and we just put more officers on the street.
I really hope Chicagoans really start to open their mouths and make this shitty mayor hire more officers to protect the city and I mean the whole city not just the ghetto.
I gotta call bullshit on this one. The dept can't control what goes on in court as far as dates and continuances too many variables.
Can I get some more pancakes over here?
its every unit / district across the board that has to cut % of the overtime. until ofcourse, summer, when crime and homicides go throught he roof. then they'll be begging for us to do shit. i'm in a unit and i never wanted thier ot anyway. they can keep it.
Rahm doesn't want to spend the money.
If it's something he wants, like the Malcom X deal, then he "finds" the money.
We can't even get our hands on basic supplies like Xerox paper etc. in our district because the city is so behind paying it's bills.
With all of Rahms new "revenue" ideas like imposing taxes and fees up the ass on the lower middle and middle class then how can the city always be playing broke?
Wow! Some of the dics s urvive on OT .
If u want to make uhrests,do it on your own time, ya dingus.
-Dr. Steve Brule
What is going on in the Fugitive Unit? I ran into a couple of the guys and they looked like someone just killed their puppy....we didn't have time to get into it much, but they said all they do is write reports??? Isn't there even ONE good unit left in this city????
SCC, you know where I am. We were told that nothing less than a 50% overtime reduction would do. Effective immediately.
Is the Department doing this because of May? I imagine that the overtime in May, check the money box, will break the bank. The fed probably will hold the check and say it's in the mail.
I'm retired now, but I was a detective for a long time. They used to try all kinds of things to cut overtime, none of them successful.
One of the things was to pass on to the new crew any information, i.e., any interviews conducted, any evidence etc., there was and they would follow up. This sounds like a good idea, but somehow the new crew would include in their reports who had given them the information; the old crew. So, when it came time for court the ASA would be forced to subpoena all detectives on the case in order to put forth a proper prosecution. And if the ASA did not think he would need the original investigators he had no case because the other investigators would refuse to testify about something that they did not do.
There are many more instances of this kind of bullshit that also failed.
I realize that times have changed but there is still more than one way to skin a cat.
So what it amounts to is pay me now or pay me later.
Why Not intel Weekends and Holidays Off and OT out the ASS
GEU limited to 5 hours of overtime per officer per period. WTF WTF WTF!!!
True statement
Narcotics has already been limited to 15 hard hours (22.5 hrs of pay) including court of OT per period. Several officers in the unit were way above the benchmark when the hammer came down. Those officers were told they can't have any overtime until they fall into the new OT guidelines.
The officers were also told that numbers will go up, not down. Narcotics and GEU are just advanced tact now. I will bet the numbers go down.
True. And Ive heard out of more than a few of their mouths "it's ok, I don't mind hanging around for a couple hours". Spoken like true hairgels.
ANYONE that works a minute (15 minutes) past their shift w/o dropping an OT slip should be considered a sellout scab. People like you are responsible for the city's and departments continual ass f***ing of all of us and why 9.5 thinks he can walk all over us. You see what he's doing to the teachers and what they're starting to do to us. Keep laying there taking it in the butt all you sellout superstars. Allow yourselves to be raped so you can wear civilain dress to work and chase savages for the almighty weed pinch. You assholes make me sick. Sellout bitches.
At least may be some of you dummies will come to your senses when the OT check is only 20% of what it used to be.
They tried before with the detectives, lets say you get a murder suspect,and it keeps going,I have had some up to 24 hours,we pass to the next team the chain of evidence and recall memory would be diminished! Why are some hair gel narcotics kids now working overtime and "not getting paid for it?" Great way boys and girls to help rahmbo DESTROY our hard fought contractual rights to stay in a bullshit unit!
Thanks alot to Area 1 Dets midnight tools Dave Br, Mike Be and a certain City Clerks brother who try to milk all the overtime from the rest of us on b/s and made this happen!
*** Here is what happened: ***
Downtown took EVERY Unit in the Dept. and looked at the average of the last 3 years overtime. They told all commanders to cut the average by 30%. They were told if they go over this yearly budgeted amount, they would be GONE.
Now here is the interesting part:
If the G8 money is coming from the FEDS, why the sudden need to cut overtime? My guess is that Rahm will then take the overtime savings, and hire new officers and then.... BAM, the Rahmfather is the hero.
They can't limit detective overtime. This is a bad rumor. Police shootings, newsworthy events, 48-hour rule, etc., can generate 20 hours overtime in just one 24 hour day.
Its an election year, they need all the money to get Obama back in.
In specialized unit, team under federal grant overheard Lt. asking how to use money for for entire unit!!! Payroll said "No such luck" names of officers on grant given to accounting and feds. Can't use money for others in unit! Started unit with almost 400 officers less than 100 now!
All court overtime is being curtailed, officers going to court are put on days which is allowed in units changing starting time to court calls! Heard States Attorney only allowed box 1, arresting officer on report in court for now. Rahm is crying broke again, 9% cut in all city departments across city "NO EXCUSES". But he has money for city hall aldermanic staff raises the west and south side reverands and new Malcom X.
Hahahahahahaah now where is everyone going to hang out?
If you can...
Check the time due box, save it up and build it up, then kill them with it when you retire!
1600 hours are counting, I saw the light a few years ago.
Homer Simpson, "That's what we've got to do.....SOMETHING!"
times are tough. money is tight. no real surprises that the PD will have to tighten its belt some.
be glad you are not in a line of work that can be easily and cost effectively outsourced like garbage collection.
This makes absolutely no sense! Don't these idiots realize that by having detectives pass ongoing cases to other detectives, they have now doubled or even tripled the number that will be called to court to testify??
Save in the front and get killed with OT on the back!
Gov Quinn's Budget speech.
It's about to go down.
The great Tower of Babbling Bullshit in Springfield will announce plans to close two prisons, some mental health institutions and inmate half-way houses pushing the mentally ill and the criminals back onto the streets in a sort of early release prison program.
This all is estimated at costing us 1,100 jobs!!
Add that to the 100 Sears HQ employees that were laid off and the recent 375 ADM HQ employees that are being laid off in Illinois AND the sixteen other companies that have together laid off 1,600 people in the last month and tell me how the mayor and the Governor's job creation and saving plan is going!
Meanwhile...
The downtown Fortress of Bullshit has changed their propaganda from talking about the much needed poverty wage shovel-ready welder jobs that business needs to now talking about creating healthcare worker jobs.
Nevertheless Quinn's Medicare cuts is expected to result in 19,000 health care worker layoffs. So I wouldn't bet the farm on these people getting jobs either.
And then there's this on the State Lottery Sales being done on-line.
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WASHINGTON – About a half-dozen states are placing bets that they can adopt an online lottery following a late-December ruling by the U.S. Department of Justice that removes previous obstacles.
Last week Illinois 7-Eleven owners stepped up to urge the state lottery commission to delay its March 25 launch of online ticket sales, warning of massive layoffs unless the Illinois Lottery protects them from competition from the availability of online sales.
"[You] know at the end of the day we could possibly see this being a 7,000 job decrease in the state of Illinois," Joe Rossi, president of the 7-Eleven Franchise Owners Association?of Chicagoland, told the radio station WLS, adding, "And we hope it isn't, but if it is it's hard to look that employee in the eye and tell them they no longer have a job anymore."
CBS Chicago reports that Rossi estimates that lottery sales bring in 30% of the business at 7-Elevens in the state, because lottery buyers buy an average of $5 in goods on top of their tickets. Rossi says he is not trying to block online lottery sales, but would like for the Illinois Lottery to find a way to protect state’s convenience store lottery business.
more >> http://www.nacsonline.com/NACS/News/Daily/Pages/ND0220122.aspx
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So you can forget about landing even a part-time temporary poverty job at the local Seven-Eleven store.
Gas is going to five bucks a gallon by spring and that cost is going to trickle right on down to all your essentials needed to live - MAINLY FOOD.
There are over a record 46.3 million people living on food stamps in order to survive already in the USA.
The numbers his an all time low under Clinton and increased all thru the Bush years and continued to increase thru the Obama years.
Illinois serves 1.831 million on food stamps. Food prices have increased -- all I'm sayin' is that hungry desperate people do crazy desperate things. It's gonna get ugly and these politicians are so disconnected they haven't got a clue.
Oh well, I guess you shouldn't bank on OT in your household budget.
Don't forget Narcotics, they are also being muzzled... I guess the department doesn't want anymore multi-million dollar seizures, search warrants, and long term investigations... this department is a joke. Back to 2 bag, corner boy, buy-busts. What a waste of available resources.
Isn't fugitives partially funded by the Marshall's Office for overtime?
Are they gonna change work hours at a day or two notice? I don't buy it. A subpoena is from the court with written consequences of contempt of court for non-appearance. Do you think the judge gives a shit that the city says no to court? I don't think so. If I was in that unit and they switched my hours for the purpose of getting out of court...I would be in court all day if you know what I mean. I think this is someone starting a stupid rumor. Court is a mandatory appearance if notified.
The palm reader is waiting to make your aquaintance!We're now on our second batch of out of towners and local social climbing yes men. DO you think any exempts have your back? They'll never have to swipe to collect their huge paycheck.
wtf is "paper for the file"? is it some type of OT scam? can i get some of that?
Anyone who signed up for these "special" units....they deserve what they get.....there is only so much you can try to explain to the rooks.
Det Division is also cutting back big time. Unless it's a hom... I mean murder or if you got your case with ASA ready to go you pass it on to next shift.
Looks like you will need more time to get special employment.
That means no chasing down leads, tips and clues. Everything will be filed and passed onto the next crew for follow up.
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leads??? i cant remember anyone from geu has had any good "leads"
There a news story out about an El Paso, Texas woman who was grazed by a bullet fired from Ciudad Juarez in Mexico.
Assume it is a proven fact that a shooter fires across Cicero Ave. from 011 (Area 4) and the bullet fatally strikes a person on the west sidewalk in 015 (Area 5). What jurisdiction is charged with the homicide?
Sorry, I don't think the OT for May will break the bank when this ass just gave $479 million to the city colleges. The money is there when it's for something he wants to spend it on.
I call bullshit on that one. What do you say Cam? They takng yo mOney away?
Yet ANOTHER reason to avoid the City. Every time I think it can't get any worse, it actually gets worse.
Narcotics used to be unlimited OT. If your working on shit, the overtime usually came with it. Not anymore boys and girls. Its McNutty's new and improved way of policing. He doesn't care about the investigation or the crime but the greenbacks being spent on it.
Thank God, In my unit were forced to work overtime and can't leave until we finish the paperwork. Who really wants to work 100 hrs.+ every month?
"Isn't fugitives partially funded by the Marshall's Office for overtime?"
Shhhh! Nobody's sposed to know that.
This way we can "save" more money!
"The palm reader is waiting to make your aquaintance!"
The palm reader told me I would meet someone tall, dark & handsome!
SO Sgt know-it-all fatass in ocd is bragging that his buddy, the cheif in iad is going to put him back there so he can keep raping the overtime. If he goes back there, IG better open a case and watch that dirty prick real close.
This or a variation of it has been tried many times before. June July and August with the blessing of Tom Skilling cures it..just be patient, and never make your household budget based on expected overtime..
Old guy
Anonymous said...
Geu never should have been created. All they are are glorified tac teams, the mistake was putting them in organized crime; they now think they are of some kind of importance, they aren't . Bring them back to the districts to make arrests and clear corners, that is what their real job is supposed to be, not investigations; leave those to GIU, the real investigators.....
Not sure where you work, but we still do the same thing we did as district gang teams where I work. Occasionally a team may have a long term investigation of some sort, but for the most part we ride on jobs and do the same thing we did when we were in the districts.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Geu never should have been created. All they are are glorified tac teams, the mistake was putting them in organized crime; they now think they are of some kind of importance, they aren't . Bring them back to the districts to make arrests and clear corners, that is what their real job is supposed to be, not investigations; leave those to GIU, the real investigators.....
2/22/2012 12:55:00 AM
What a wonderful thing to say about your fellow officers. I bet I can count on you in a 10-1 buddy.
Anonymous said...
Don't forget about Narcotics officers being told 15 hours per period including court appearances. They must be trying to save up for G8.
2/22/2012 01:14:00 AM
Nobody really cares about you people sonny. You, the unit of 4 hour days and bs inflated overtime and even more bs drug values. Of that 15 hours a period you will now get, how many will come from a day where you actually worked more than 8 hours to begin with. Answer, zero! Now go back to the bar and shut up!
OT in my unit was cut by over 60% a month.
Narcotics / Unit 189 sometimes make 3 to 4 felony delivery cases per day. They have buy, surveillance and plainclothes officers. they can change your hours for now, but all those arrests will add up come court, they can't deny the defendant his right to see his accusers in court. they can try to limit court but it won't work in the long run. . . . but then again, all the ding-dong supervisors are thinking about is for the short term.
If you can...
Check the time due box, save it up and build it up, then kill them with it when you retire!
1600 hours are counting, I saw the light a few years ago.
2/22/2012 09:51:00 AM
This is the reason our benefits get systematically cut. People like you who come on a public forum and announce how much OT you're going to make, how to check the time box, how to do this or that to stick it up the city's bum.... why don't you all keep these thoughts between your own ears and not post stuff on the blog. City hall can just cherry pick all these things. Next thanks to your advertising we won't be able to be paid for our comp time. Just shut the heck up. We already know it anyway.
So you can forget about landing even a part-time temporary poverty job at the local Seven-Eleven store.
Gas is going to five bucks a gallon by spring and that cost is going to trickle right on down to all your essentials needed to live - MAINLY FOOD.
There are over a record 46.3 million people living on food stamps in order to survive already in the USA.
The numbers his an all time low under Clinton and increased all thru the Bush years and continued to increase thru the Obama years.
Illinois serves 1.831 million on food stamps. Food prices have increased -- all I'm sayin' is that hungry desperate people do crazy desperate things. It's gonna get ugly and these politicians are so disconnected they haven't got a clue.
2/22/2012 10:32:00 AM
Add to that for those of us not on food stamps... Chicago is the only city in the U.S. that taxes FOOD. Regular food not soda etc which has its own tax, in addition to water being taxed. So food and water, life's essentials are taxed. We all have to buy food. I don't appreciate paying a tax for it in addition to the county, city and state sales tax. Cannot wait to leave this corrupt city.
It happened back in 2000. Days were changed daily to accomadate court appearances. Happened to me because we were banging overtime so much.
"True. And Ive heard out of more than a few of their mouths "it's ok, I don't mind hanging around for a couple hours". Spoken like true hairgels. "
Hey asshole...
Taking Pride in being a Cop doesn't make you a gel/stroke.
It makes you a real cop.
I would give up my revenue mouthbreather job to take the risk of PPO and working Nights in 7 for 10 years.
scenario:
officer: boss, I've got a good one going, big weight, lots of cash...
boss: do you have to work overtime?
officer: well, yeah, to monitor the dileviry, do the warrant, and so forth.....
boss: NO overtime!......get your drugs arrests, between 8 and 4......hah! the brass does not want overtime.......that comes from Prince Rahm....he, who must be obeyed....
What about Rahms security specialist, they are raking in 40-60 hrs a period.
Assume it is a proven fact that a shooter fires across Cicero Ave. from 011 (Area 4) and the bullet fatally strikes a person on the west sidewalk in 015 (Area 5). What jurisdiction is charged with the homicide?
2/22/2012 02:15:00 PM
where the body drops.
Thanks alot to Area 1 Dets midnight tools Dave Br, Mike Be and a certain City Clerks brother who try to milk all the overtime from the rest of us on b/s and made this happen!
2/22/2012 08:59:00 AM
I'm not a detective, nor do I know anyone you mentioned but I will say Fuck you and good for them. Getting O.T. has been going on for years. Don't blame 3 guys for the downfall of ot. I work a beat car now as well as 20 years ago. Years ago when I worked afternoons and cared about ot it was no problem to get 80 to 100 hrs a period. Did I ruin ot for you too because of my ot. Good job detectives and anyone else making ot. A subpoena is a court order. They can't stop you from going to court when ordered to.
times are tough. money is tight. no real surprises that the PD will have to tighten its belt some.
be glad you are not in a line of work that can be easily and cost effectively outsourced like garbage collection.
2/22/2012 10:19:00 AM
fuck off, rahmboite,
Get rid of Rahm now!! All unite and march on his residence and City Hall. Impeach this arrogant prick.
Police, Fire, CPS unite and make some noise before it's too late.
I know for a fact that if I get dumped for "overtime abuse" (which i won't) i will gladly go back to a watch in a district and continue to get late arrests and plenty of court time. Dump me! I dare you! Put me on a fixed post on midnights! I will not listen to you! I will do what I want when I want and it will all be because I can. You are powerless to stop me! Yellow slip! I'm rich bitch!
to: Geu never should have been created. All they are are glorified tac teams, the mistake was putting them in organized crime; they now think they are of some kind of importance, they aren't . Bring them back to the districts to make arrests and clear corners, that is what their real job is supposed to be, not investigations; leave those to GIU, the real investigators.....
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who cares. they are more mobile and get a bit more leway to do police work- why would you want to limit ANY cop from doing police work? you sound like a jealose douche bag. we are all cops trying to keep the bad guys from harming your friends and family and the good citizens. got it "cool guy".. now go investigate why you are such a dildo.
There a news story out about an El Paso, Texas woman who was grazed by a bullet fired from Ciudad Juarez in Mexico.
Assume it is a proven fact that a shooter fires across Cicero Ave. from 011 (Area 4) and the bullet fatally strikes a person on the west sidewalk in 015 (Area 5). What jurisdiction is charged with the homicide?
Either it gets classified as a death investigation and both jurisdictions are happy! Lol
If you can...
Check the time due box, save it up and build it up, then kill them with it when you retire!
1600 hours are counting, I saw the light a few years ago.
2/22/2012 09:51:00 AM
Retired 3 years ago from a unit where the OT was unlimited,you had to work OT even if you did'nt want it.Last 2 years on the job decided to build up my time,knowing I was going to retire soon.
Well,when I retired I cashed in all of my hours,Big Mistake!,lump-sum check Uncle Sam kicked my ass on taxes.All of the hours I had on the books,the feds got a third of them,only alternative was to roll it over into my deferred comp tax free which I did'nt know then.
If I had to do it over again I would have taken the money.
The people of Chicago will get the police dept. they deserve.
Anonymous said...
Assume it is a proven fact that a shooter fires across Cicero Ave. from 011 (Area 4) and the bullet fatally strikes a person on the west sidewalk in 015 (Area 5). What jurisdiction is charged with the homicide?
2/22/2012 02:15:00 PM
where the body lands...duh
What about Rahms security specialist, they are raking in 40-60 hrs a period.
2/22/2012 08:01:00 PM
and at Sergeants pay so how about that for the budget?
Seriously!!! Really from reading the comments I see the divide and conquer strategy is working well...
Get rid of Rahm now!! All unite and march on his residence and City Hall. Impeach this arrogant prick.
Police, Fire, CPS unite and make some noise before it's too late.
2/22/2012 08:19:00 PM
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Get a clue; the citizenry isn't at all unhappy with Rahm. They see pretty planter boxes and they hear how evil those city workers are, that those city workers won't compromise for the sake of our fair and wonderful, albeit troubled, city.
Now, when the speeder cameras start to spit out those tickets, when the city is on the hook for millions and millions of dollars to repair our parks and downtown area after Nato/G8, when the water bills and real estate tax bills keep increasing... THEN you might be able to rally those good people into opening their eyes and seeing the puppeteer for what he really is.
Its an election year. They need that dope money to make the full rounds all the way to the top without being intercepted!
Anonymous said...
Assume it is a proven fact that a shooter fires across Cicero Ave. from 011 (Area 4) and the bullet fatally strikes a person on the west sidewalk in 015 (Area 5). What jurisdiction is charged with the homicide?
2/22/2012 02:15:00 PM
where the body lands...duh
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There is no problem with jurisdiction in the aforementioned scenario. Both components are in Chicago. I hope that neither of you is a police officer. (This department needs better testing and training.)
Area 5 Sgt's have already told us that OT will be cut back. Front office people have failed to get record #'s because they can't find the files and therefore they must not exist so there is no reason for you to go to court.
Anonymous said...
If you can...
Check the time due box, save it up and build it up, then kill them with it when you retire!
1600 hours are counting, I saw the light a few years ago.
2/22/2012 09:51:00 AM
Always take the money whoever wrote this is an idiot.
I have less than 10 years on the job. I am considered a hair gel... (So be it that I need less of it now since I have some miles on me.) This is not my first career either. I do my job with pride and to the best of my ability. However, there is one thing I can say for myself and everybody I know on this job... I don't do a damn thing for free! Pay me or see ya tomorrow.
is confidential iad exempt? check their overtime
Retired 3 years ago from a unit where the OT was unlimited,you had to work OT even if you did'nt want it.Last 2 years on the job decided to build up my time,knowing I was going to retire soon.
Well,when I retired I cashed in all of my hours,Big Mistake!,lump-sum check Uncle Sam kicked my ass on taxes.All of the hours I had on the books,the feds got a third of them,only alternative was to roll it over into my deferred comp tax free which I did'nt know then.
If I had to do it over again I would have taken the money.
2/22/2012 11:56:00 PM
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Matbe things have changed, but 12 years ago I was able to spread that payout over either 2 or 3 years, I have forgotten which, but that softens the bite significantly.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Assume it is a proven fact that a shooter fires across Cicero Ave. from 011 (Area 4) and the bullet fatally strikes a person on the west sidewalk in 015 (Area 5). What jurisdiction is charged with the homicide?
2/22/2012 02:15:00 PM
where the body lands...duh
2/23/2012 01:36:00 AM
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And if a plane crashes in the river betwen the US and Canada, where do they bury the survivors?
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Assume it is a proven fact that a shooter fires across Cicero Ave. from 011 (Area 4) and the bullet fatally strikes a person on the west sidewalk in 015 (Area 5). What jurisdiction is charged with the homicide?
2/22/2012 02:15:00 PM
where the body lands...duh
2/23/2012 01:36:00 AM
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And if a plane crashes in the river betwen the US and Canada, where do they bury the survivors?
Where the family wants them buried!
ok no more overtime, no new cars ordered, lets take the cta to every job, as long as we back each other up, and go home safe to our families nothing else matters!
And if a plane crashes in the river betwen the US and Canada, where do they bury the survivors?
Where the family wants them buried!
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You don't bury survivors.
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Reading is a skill - learn it
It is becoming more obvious that we will be closing our police stations from 7pm to 7 am just like our sister city Detroit. If citizens need the police they can call in and get a number for the next available car. When folks don't feel safe anymore because of a lack of police an fire protection they will leave. It has been going on for a while and will get much worse.
Is that a joke? Sgt. Edenfield got more OT than that during the first Bulls riot all by himself. This job sucks now.
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