Hiring Wave!
Chicago will hire 50 more police officers and keep 20,000 more young people occupied this summer, thanks to what Mayor Rahm Emanuel called a “safety surplus:” the first $8.5 million in city debt siphoned from the state income tax refunds of chronic scofflaws.
“I cannot have a system that tilts toward the deadbeats and the cheaters,” the mayor told a news conference at Harris Park, 6200 S. Drexel.
...said the man who made a quick $11 million in questionable short term business deals. Can you smell the bullshit already?
On Monday, Emanuel unveiled plans to use the first $8.5 million as a “safety surplus” to provide sorely-needed police manpower and keep kids occupied and off the streets this summer. The spending includes:
• $2 million to hire 50 more police officers. The mayor’s budget already includes funding for 100 new officers. Now, the cadet class expected to enter the police academy in June will double — to 100 recruits. Another class of 50 will start this fall.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 6:31 AM
138 Comments:
Wait till all these folks written ANOV's over the years that were told by police they're just warning tickets get their income tax refunds snatched from them.
First apply that money to all outstanding debt, any surplus should go for additional police.
Hey Rahm better tighten up the sphincter. Looks like you got hit in the can yesterday.
2 million to hire 50 recruits?
That is 40,000/recruit...not enough to pay for salary alone. What about benefits, training, etc?
Add another zero to 50 and I would have been slightly impressed. The sad thing is we still would be very short even with 500 more bodies.
As a person sitting at 53xx on the current list....we'll take whatever we can get at this point. 150 is better than nothing
Hi, alderman beavers here again. Now let's just say I had two coconuts and I painted a nice face on each of them, maybe like a clown or a mime. That would be nice. Then I took those coconuts and dropped from the top floor of the parking garage in the new 19th district which would I be more likely to hit first a mental or a cross-dresser?
how about taking some money for the pensions that need to be shored up! time for these corrupt politicians to be held accountable!
Wow 50 cops. BFD tripple that will retire next month!
It appears that the G8 failure is putting the spotlight on the severe manpower crisis.
The manpower crisis undermines Homeland security concerns. If a terrorist incident occurs and the manpower crisis can be linked to it watchout! The ensuing litigation will bankrupt Chicago and destroy Rahm's political aspirations forever.
Will the media finally address the manpower crisis?
This joke is the best that the Mayor can do? This replaces the attrition for less than one month.
Media file a FOIA request on the number of sworn officers and retirements, terminations, resignations, permanent medical leaves, deaths and leave of absences. The numbers don't add up and of the request is denied due to security concerns you know the city is concealing the truth!
juice baby class
If the Feds believe that the Cpd is too gutted to handle a protest rally what does that say if something truly catastrophic were to occur in Chicago?
“I cannot have a system that tilts toward the deadbeats and the cheaters,” the mayor told a news conference at Harris Park, 6200 S. Drexel.
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OMG!
This is AWESOME!
Rahm is going to eliminate Chicago's City Council... Hooray!
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That IS what he meant by "the deadbeats and the cheaters", right?
RIGHT?
Or his he just lying again?
Pretty soon we won't be able to tell the difference between this lying mayor and the last one.
Meet the new boss, same as the old boss.
Anyway, with all the NEW money this liar keeps finding, maybe he could start funding the pensions, because I'm sure all of HIS won't be going under.
Cool, no more manpower issues. Thanks Rahm.
well maybe rahmbo is waking up and smelling the coffee
maybe the wake up call about G-8 moving to camp david
the secret was there was no "secrect" the secret service
problately took one look at Mc Nutty an figured hey this guy isnt going to be able to do it
( after saying well we get people from NYC to help)
i'm sure it was a manpower issue
we dont have enough people for some thing that big
i'm sure the talent is there
but you can't be two places at once:)
And nothing about promotions except the chosen few. Fuck You
over 3.000 down fifty isnt going to anything
No. And you know why.
hahahah..
Yeah look ma new jobs!!
Forget about the old jobs that paid a living wage and the fact that we are losing more of them then we are creating the new jobs.
Look over here...no-no-no don't look over there. Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!
" I cannot have a system that tilts towards the deadbeats and the cheaters "
Are you fucking kidding me?
So many of his constituents ( Democrats ) in this city are deadbeats and cheaters.
Bribing 20,000 people with do nothing jobs.
Don't ask them to be civilized, just bribe them.
I predict murders will still soar this summer no matter how much money you throw at the " disadvantaged ".
Get serious!
Three and five year plans?!
Does anyone else believe that the money from the "scoff law" funds is going to continue beyond year one?
I mean all the deadbeats have to do is to adjust their W-4 state income tax allowances so that they have no tax refunds coming and the mayors money is GONE right?
Sure hope he's not counting on this to pay for new officers past year one cuz I don't see it.
Not to mention I wonder how many personal bankruptcies, loan defaults, and foreclosures this might trigger.
Is it just me, or is there something very wrong about talking about hiring kids "to keep them off the streets this summer"?
Couldn't we at least try to style it as "giving young people opportunities to develop work skills" or something else like that?
When the little dears read this stuff in the papers, I suspect they think to themselves: better threaten trouble if you want that summer job.
is that totally crazy?
I retired on 16 April 2010 along with 134 others. We haven't seen the retirement numbers published in the FOP newletter since 08/11. There are far more than 150 retirements, more like 1,000s+.
>>Honest to pete, does anyone in the media ever listen to what Rahm is saying, read it back to themselves and compare it to reality<<
the same could be said for Obama. the answer for both is "no"
the media is a corrupt, biased, thoroughly ideological entity that cares only about advancing an agenda
Wow....50 WTF only 3,100 more to go.
Who does the math over there? My 12 year olds would have figured it out already.
Smoke and mirrors
Hey guess what?
The new Food Stamp Caseload numbers are in. The March 2012 report is for the Dec. 2011 numbers.
Record Participation Continues
SNAP national participation in December 2011 rose to a record 46,514,238 people, an over-the month increase of 227,922 people but an increase of 2.4 million people compared with December 2010. More than one in seven Americans receives SNAP.
The number of people participating in SNAP in December 2011 was nearly 29.6 million more persons than in July 2000, when program participation nationally reached its lowest point in the prior decade (16.9 million individuals). On the federal level the program was renamed SNAP pursuant to the 2008 Farm Bill
[...]
Still Missing Eligible People at a Time of Food Hardship
Nonetheless, gaps in participation remain. Three in ten people eligible for SNAP go unserved.
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All through the Bush years food stamp caseloads increased and they continue to do so under Obama. Those damn liberals!
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Guess what else??
We're number two -- we're number two!!!
Looking at the Nov 2011 data compared to the Dec 2011 data Illinois ranks number two in the percentage increase in food stamp participants.
Illinois
Nov -- 2011 -- 1,850,593
Dec -- 2011 -- 1,879,585
A 1.6% increase, roughly 29,000 people. Alaska was number one with a December increase of 2.1%
Woo-hoo!
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You would think that with all these so-called new jobs being created in the sanctuary city that these numbers would be going down and not up.
Heh..they tell us how they created over 122,900 NEW jobs in Illinois since January 2010 yet the food stamp caseloads in Illinois are 49.5% higher then they were in 2006!
GO tell it to the sweeney!
http://frac.org/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/snapdata2011_december.pdf
Why not hire 100 children police officers? Two birds with one stone.
lets see......hmmmmmmm, yeah ok I got it!!!!! Thats 2.17391304 new officers per dist. I feel oh so safe.
AARP -- Illinois Finishes LAST in the US as Place to Retire
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Here is what is coming.
More fees than can be born by any human or dog: red light speeding cameras everywhere and big fees just for having Spot.
Lord Rahm latching onto meager Illinois state tax returns for non-payment of fines to fund jobs --let's here it now-- for da children.
And...those sinking houses: The state oligarchy of RahmMadiQuinn is busy about the task of forcing all funding of school pensions down to the local level. For those who went to the government schools, it works out like this: House is valued at $100,000 and the property taxes will escalate to $15-20 thousand per year. Unless you know Lords RahmMadiQuinn personally. Then you will be exempt.
Running right behind grannie in her scoot-mobile are the many businesses that cannot afford the corporate tax, fees and graft that is part of doing business in the Land of Obama.
The guy who is selling the "Illinois -- A Great Place to be FROM" bumper sticker is making a fortune, and Lords RahmMadiQuinn were greedily eyeing his newly amased fortune, but I understand he lives in Wisconsin---this [] far away from the Illinois State line.
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Politicians picking and choosing the winners and the losers, redistributing that wealth, but it's not to who you think it is.
50 CLOUTED to What Shit District????
50 more cops is better than no more cops.
Given the financial mess the city is in, getting even 50 is somewhat of a miracle.
Rahm is delusional. Treats the citizens of Chicago like sheep and unfortunately, a big percentage follow him and believe each and every word that comes out of his mouth.
Hire this guy he's looking for job.
http://www.policeone.com/vehicle-incidents/articles/5194399-Police-Va-cop-stabbed-2-firefighters-at-crash-scene/
When I was hired just about this time in 1978 it was the largest Academy class ever. As I recall 274 new recruits in Class 78-1.
It was so that the city would have a bunch of new officers to send to work Chicagofest at Navy Pier. That was the philosophy then, you anticipate the need and hire accordingly.
I checked the other day, of the original 274 from Class 78-1 there are 11 still out there saving lives and asses.
Stay Safe, and to those retired and passed on fare thee well.
“I cannot have a system that tilts toward the deadbeats and the cheaters,” the mayor told a news conference at Harris Park, 6200 S. Drexel."
Following this logic, Nine-Point-Five should completely eliminate the entire city council. Every last one of the bastards.
A whole 50 Cops more ? After all the Tax Dollars they wasted and stole? That won't even be enough to cover the Lunch-Breaks for half of one district. What a fuckin joke these people are. Don't they realize yet that most people with half a brain see right thru their Corrupt Activities and Plans ?
Obama in full spin mode covering for Rahman in press conference today. Camp David a more casual setting. Isn't that something you would decide from day one? Full confidence in police ability. Thank you., but every event he talks about bulls taste of Chicago their was uncontrolled violence. We dont need any of that
There is nO media. Just lap dogs that read promotors
Hell No!
Rahm "the cheater" should use that $8.5 to hire at least 200 more Police Officers. Giving it to summer programs is a joke. More wasted money that we can't afford to lose.
WE NEED TO DROP THE COLLEGE REQUIREMENT AND HIRE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE JOB. The generation of "college" kids we hiring now, all think there supposed to be the boss, not working Police Officers. That doesnt do any of us on the street any good. I have my college education, but still know what this job is all about. Its called good work ethic and law enforcement, not just report writing after the fact. Apparently, pride in ones career/job is not a class in any accredited college program. Never thought Id see the day the "dogs" would be the vast majority and the model Officers.....
A "world Class City" that can afford only 50 new harigel police. Get the fuck outta here Rahm. The whole world can see through your bullshit spin.
50+In and Kirby Out
Temperatures nearing 70 today
10 shot 3 murdered seem like a good bet! my totals would be hired for a weekend.
All the Real Police have left the building, now you have just Elvis impersonators. Take that to the fucking bank. GFY Rahm.
We need an damn tsunami to fill this manpower hole.
“I cannot have a system that tilts toward the deadbeats and the cheaters,” the mayor told a news conference..."
The toilet's backin' up here.
Someone call Vanecko/Daley Sewer Cleaning -- and hire some trucks too!
Does anyone know if there are still only 5 training districts or can PPO's just be sent anywhere?
Breaking news: Cuello resigned today.
Fallout from the G8 passing us up.
Georges, Kirby,Wysinger and Lodding
are also being seriously looked at...
and it ain't positive. Word.
Honestly the best thing we can hope for, and the only real possibility for increasing our numbers is a soaring murder rate this spring and summer. The economy is terrible and we are a democratic city. There is no other way to fortify the Chicago Police Department other than shit totally hitting the fan. Federal oversight?
Hey SCC I think its time we start a post about what federal oversight of CPD might mean or if it is a possibility. Lord knows there are cons to something like that but there are also pros. Better training, equipment, manpower, and the likelihood of a safe pension to name a few.
There is no big secret about how many po's are on the job. Pension board knows exactly how many are paying into the pension, you can't mess with that and you can go on clear and get alpha listing, seniority listing and it will tell you the totals including bosses.
Rham and Garry are an embarrasement to Chicago.
Wow those extra 50 will go along way towards replacing the 400 we're gonna lose between now and May 15th!
This guy is such an asshole.
hey did anyone get a email from fop asking them to put a reelect mike madigan sign on their lawn?
Off topic!
It didn't take long for Area North to fill up the interview rooms. Every room is filled with offenders and interviews are being held in hallways! What a cluster fuck his consolidation is. The funny thing will be that ith only three areas the murder rate per area will go up because there is not five areas to divide it by. The same will happen to overtime! Geniuses !
Whoever came up with this consolidation should really be hung!
it doesnt take a brain freaking scientist to do the math. we lose and have pretty much always lost 30-40 officers every month of every year. throwing the figure of 50 officers here and then down the road another 50 officers hired to the media and public and then pat yourself on the back and try to make it look like your our hero and savior. unbelievable, our mayor is such a fool
EIGHTY-TWO sergeants retired in 2011. That's sergeants only.
Does anybody have the numbers from the other unions?
A whole one hundred (or maybe even one hundred fifty new recruits) isn't going to make a dent in how many we've lost in the past two years.
Media file a FOIA request on the number of sworn officers and retirements, terminations, resignations, permanent medical leaves, deaths and leave of absences. The numbers don't add up and of the request is denied due to security concerns you know the city is concealing the truth!
3/06/2012 08:32:00 AM
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No. Ask for the list of sworn EMPLOYEES of the Chicago Police Department that have retired, etc.
If you ask for "officers", the City will find a way to fudge the actual number, saying you didn't ask for everyone, you just asked for "x, y, z".
Temperatures nearing 70 today
10 shot 3 murdered seem like a good bet! my totals would be hired for a weekend.
3/06/2012 03:38:00 PM
Yikes, I meant "higher" not hired. That's embarrassing...
Anonymous said...
As a person sitting at 53xx on the current list....we'll take whatever we can get at this point. 150 is better than nothing
3/06/2012 07:24:00 AM
Well, got some news for ya there buckeroo!
The Chicago Police Department as it is barely existing now will be completely gone within 5 years.
The current thinktank wisdom being applied silently throughout the entire country amongst all the wannabe knowitall police chiefs is what's been told to them as the last final frontier for law enforcement, by who else other than a bunch of fucking civilian never-been-a-cop little punktards who're controlled by big money in this country.
That's right kids.... City based, municipally financed policing is going away in just a few years.
It's replacement? Glad you asked! None other than a plan similar to Obama's dream of a "civilian brown shirt" police department.
See, CRIME will never again go down in this country, rather ESCALATE as time goes by. This means local governments will soon never be able to afford to pay enough salary to police their own municipality. THAT means, a new branch of "paramilitary service" will come into being. One that applies FEDERAL TAXES to policing the entire country.
Basically slave wages near that of what current military members get, but they'll get the free house as well.
Get used to losing that job about as soon as you get it, because you're NOT gonna be on the new FEDERAL POLICING list when it happens kid.
Anonymous said...
When I was hired just about this time in 1978 it was the largest Academy class ever. As I recall 274 new recruits in Class 78-1.
It was so that the city would have a bunch of new officers to send to work Chicagofest at Navy Pier. That was the philosophy then, you anticipate the need and hire accordingly.
I checked the other day, of the original 274 from Class 78-1 there are 11 still out there saving lives and asses.
Stay Safe, and to those retired and passed on fare thee well.
3/06/2012 12:22:00 PM
I came on in '86 when they hired 1,500 that year.
Get serious!
Three and five year plans?!
Does anyone else believe that the money from the "scoff law" funds is going to continue beyond year one?
I mean all the deadbeats have to do is to adjust their W-4 state income tax allowances so that they have no tax refunds coming and the mayors money is GONE right?
Sure hope he's not counting on this to pay for new officers past year one cuz I don't see it.
Not to mention I wonder how many personal bankruptcies, loan defaults, and foreclosures this might trigger.
3/06/2012 09:03:00 AM
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I've NEVER understood the YIPPEE, I'm getting a tax refund mentality.
If you get a tax refund, you've stupidly given the government an interest-free loan of your own money for a year.
Adjust your 'dependents' number on your withholding documents at work and take more cash home in each paycheck. If you do it properly, you should be writing the State or the Fed a check for less than a hundred dollars each time you file.
And, yes, it's legal to declare six dependents for withholding purposes if you only have two dependents. The purpose of it is to estimate the amount of tax that should be withheld from your paycheck, not to verify how many children are in your household.
When you fill out your tax FILING forms, you, of course, fill out the accurate number, along with the ss# of each dependent.
That way, no free money to Rahm, or anyone else. See how easy it can be?
Rahm is delusional. Treats the citizens of Chicago like sheep and unfortunately, a big percentage follow him and believe each and every word that comes out of his mouth.
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And along that same note those same people along with the rest will be Bent Over while he shoves it up our Asses!!
That's just enough to replace the guys Lewellen is ratting on.
But wait!
Just wait.
WHAT IF.......those 50 bright new young faces,.......
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ARE.....................
....THE GREATEST COPS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It could happen.
Yes, lets drop the college. You must not be educated. It's bad enough we have some officers that should not be on the job and now you would like to drop the college so we could hire more officers. That is stupid. If the city wants to get quality officers we need to keep the college.
On the other hand the city really needs to stop telling the citizens that we have enough officer on the street. The rest Obama isn't allowing the G8 Summit in Chicago is because we don't have enough officer.
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WE NEED TO DROP THE COLLEGE REQUIREMENT AND HIRE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE JOB. The generation of "college" kids we hiring now, all think there supposed to be the boss, not working Police Officers. That doesnt do any of us on the street any good. I have my college education, but still know what this job is all about. Its called good work ethic and law enforcement, not just report writing after the fact. Apparently, pride in ones career/job is not a class in any accredited college program. Never thought Id see the day the "dogs" would be the vast majority and the model Officers.....
Sources have confirmed that after receiving the news that G 8 would not be held in Chicago,
the mayor reportedly slapped the side of his own head and exclaimed " Daaaa! I could of had a G 8"!
Anonymous said...
I retired on 16 April 2010 along with 134 others. We haven't seen the retirement numbers published in the FOP newletter since 08/11. There are far more than 150 retirements, more like 1,000s+.
That's because Mike Shields is a sell out. Wake up CPD, the union is in the bed with the Mayor. They are rubbing toes together and massaging each other. "Mikey please scratch my back, a little lower."
Anonymous said...
>>Honest to pete, does anyone in the media ever listen to what Rahm is saying, read it back to themselves and compare it to reality<<
the same could be said for Obama. the answer for both is "no"
the media is a corrupt, biased, thoroughly ideological entity that cares only about advancing an agenda
3/06/2012 10:32:00 AM
Bingo!!!!!!!
50 more cops is better than no more cops.
Given the financial mess the city is in, getting even 50 is somewhat of a miracle.
3/06/2012 11:22:00 AM
Stop drinking the Koolaide kid.
The City can afford to Hire More Cops and Firefighters. Hell they waste cash on Ghost Payrolls for the Aldermanic Offices.
Can money be taken from the Link cards too?
OMG. 3 to 4 new recruits per district. I dont think they will know what to do with all that newly acquired manpower.
Should settle the manpower problem for a few years.
Rahm says people stop crime, not buildings. So why can't I move to Elburn? What's the difference? Cops fight crime, not cops who live in Chicago, what's the difference where I live as long as I fight crime in Chicago?
Oh, now I remember, what is good for Rahm is not good for us. And I am retiring soon. Now I recall. Disregard, 19-P, whatever.
Hiring 50 Police Officers...Whoop-Dee-Do..Need 5,000 more...
It isn't bad enough in the Garfield Ridge / Clearing neighborhood that Madigan has his lawn signs on just about EVERY single lawn.
Today, he had one of those stupid skinny sign trucks (with his name plastered all over it) driving up and down all the side streets!
Please enough is enough.
Does anyone even know who is running against this guy (if anyone at all)!
I don't know what your all upset about, by McNutty's calculations thats 25 officers per district, since we are only manning 7 and 11 anymore the rest of the districts we will keep consolidating so their numbers don't look bad.
How about 120 days to get a light fixed,or only 2 graffiti trucks for the whole city ,90 day for a sewer repair ,120days for a tree trim,this is just the start the city will be soo bad after this summer it is time to get out!!!!
what ever happened to the forensic audit rah rah was going to do when he took office???? to much in there to let everyone know??
50 cops?
So I guess it's safe to buy that two-flat in Englewood now, ey' Rahm?
"Deadbeats and Cheaters"...The Racoon just described himself.
Maybe they can some of these officers up north. Stop over loading the southside to patrol the animals.
Why not hire 100 children police officers? Two birds with one stone.
Hairgels are just children dressed up like police. Same shit.
2:58 pm. The college requirement is just fine. Its just a different generation. The generation brought up ready to dial 911, whenever you tried to provide some much needed disipline. Also lets not forget the clout babies,seems every boss, gang leader and politician has a shit load of family members in the department. Try telling any of those know nothings, vélez, killackey, johnson, byrne, beavers there are shitloads more, what to do, not happening. This department has become of reflection of the society, cultivated by the criminal chicago machine. Po's like you should be the norm and believe me over 90% are. Hang in there. We know who you are. Thank you for your service. God bless the CPD and SCC for letting the silent voices be heard.
WE NEED TO DROP THE COLLEGE REQUIREMENT AND HIRE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE JOB. The generation of "college" kids we hiring now, all think there supposed to be the boss, not working Police Officers. That doesnt do any of us on the street any good. I have my college education, but still know what this job is all about. Its called good work ethic and law enforcement, not just report writing after the fact. Apparently, pride in ones career/job is not a class in any accredited college program. Never thought Id see the day the "dogs" would be the vast majority and the model Officers.....
3/06/2012 02:58:00 PM
"Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves. What is equally true is that every community gets the kind of law enforcement it insists on."
- Robert Kennedy
Let's use the money to make 50 more supervisors. IE - Sergeants! Also 50 Detectives!
Honestly the best thing we can hope for, and the only real possibility for increasing our numbers is a soaring murder rate this spring and summer. The economy is terrible and we are a democratic city. There is no other way to fortify the Chicago Police Department other than shit totally hitting the fan. Federal oversight?
3/06/2012 04:12:00 PM
i can live with that.
Chalkie
Anonymous said...
How about 120 days to get a light fixed,or only 2 graffiti trucks for the whole city ,90 day for a sewer repair ,120days for a tree trim,this is just the start the city will be soo bad after this summer it is time to get out!!!!
3/06/2012 07:20:00 PM
I called the 19th ward office 3x and was told to have my tree trimmed was over a one year wait.
Hmm, 50 new police officers. Time to open new police stations.
"Every society gets the kind of criminal it deserves."
-- Robert Kennedy
--3/06/2012 08:01:00 PM
Oh.
Does that include Sirhan Sirhan?
>pfft<
The criminal class is essentially the same the world over -- independent of race, of language, of location.
Same psychopathic behavior, same tattoo-complex, same gang-formation, same use of intoxicants, same little rituals, etc.
I think it's an extra chromosome that spells "bustout."
Anonymous said...
Breaking news: Cuello resigned today.
Fallout from the G8 passing us up.
Georges, Kirby,Wysinger and Lodding
are also being seriously looked at...
and it ain't positive. Word.
3/06/2012 04:07:00 PM
She "resigned" ... to take her pension. Last day is 15 March.
"Hey SCC I think its time we start a post about what federal oversight of CPD might mean or if it is a possibility."
--3/06/2012 04:15:00 PM
Yeah, we can go "failed state" like Somalia or Robbins, Ill. or someplace and have ISP/CCSD start covering the territory.
Nothing to do with G8 -- this city can't even control two dozen "special needs" kids in a whole school building given over to them alone.
Let's use the money to make 50 more supervisors. IE - Sergeants! Also 50 Detectives!
JUST WHAT WE DONT NEED ASSHAT
but you must be on one of the lists
scum like you keep the BS system going off your knees whipe up and go vote obamma
"Emanuel unveiled plans to use the first $8.5 million as a “safety surplus” to...keep kids occupied and off the streets this summer."
Summer?
You can't even keep them contained during the school year -- not in any way, shape, or form.
PREGNANT TEEN STABBED IN SOUTH SIDE HIRSCH METRO HIGH SCHOOL CLASSROOM
By Diane Pathieu
March 6, 2012 (CHICAGO) (WLS) --
"A pregnant student was stabbed Tuesday at a high school on the city's South Side then transported to a hospital in critical condition.
"Students tell ABC 7 that two teenage girls, one of them pregnant, began fighting. Then things got heated.
"Chicago Police say the 15-year-old student was stabbed in the neck with a pair of scissors inside a classroom."
http://abclocal.go.com/wls/story?section=news/local&id=8570617
Let's take a look at the training Since we didn't get G8 because we couldn't perform
HELLO Here's a Thought
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$It would be cheaper to pay PTI or ISP to train Chicago Recruits and then close the academy and put over 25 Cops (Former Instructors)back out onto the street fighting crime in the high crime dists since most are assigned to the academy and the Good SGT wont be able to enjoy his 3 hour workouts
WTF. "Hairgels" are the hard chargers that get made fun of for working hard for a for a f'd up police department AND simultaneously a bunch of wimps who do not know how to work hard because they went to college. Make up your mind. Of all the things to be pissed off at, a bunch of young kids coming onto the job-which you all were at some point- is a sad and silly thing to be upset about. I am a "hairgel" that works in 7, shows up to work and makes arrests, does not ever complain, and makes everyone laugh while I'm at it. Maybe my partner and I are the exception to the rule but we work hard with pride for this job. F U if you think everyone who is young with less than 10 years on the job sucks. There are people at every stage of the game on this department that are great and there are those that suck. Find something else to be upset about.
There's 48 in the academy now he's counting them
I cant get over the actual bullshit in this. Like it's a big deal, he's on top of things here in town.....
Just like that asshole Captain of that Italian Cruise ship...."everything is just fine, no problem" (as he speeds to shore).
But wait!
Just wait.
WHAT IF.......those 50 bright new young faces,.......
..............................
ARE.....................
....THE GREATEST COPS EVER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
It could happen.
3/06/2012 05:33:00 PM
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And elephants can fly. It could happen.
There is no big secret about how many po's are on the job. Pension board knows exactly how many are paying into the pension, you can't mess with that and you can go on clear and get alpha listing, seniority listing and it will tell you the totals including bosses.
3/06/2012 04:18:00 PM
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Better be real careful with those numbers.
What you forget is, there are a lot of people OFF the job who are still paying into the pension, using the excuse they're still doing 'law enforcement' related work.
Like what Huberman tried to pull. Except these people got away with it.
Off Topic:
R.I.P. Sean Nolan. I'm sure the Captain met you with open arms last night.
(OT) Us marshals are hiring now!
http://www.usmarshals.gov/careers/exam_flyer.pdf
(OT) Lots of open jobs for coppers here!
http://forums.officer.com/forumdisplay.php?20-Law-Enforcement-Job-Center&s=32469407f709fd3f88d3e2e21d8c4a59
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Anonymous said...
I retired on 16 April 2010 along with 134 others. We haven't seen the retirement numbers published in the FOP newletter since 08/11. There are far more than 150 retirements, more like 1,000s+.
That's because Mike Shields is a sell out. Wake up CPD, the union is in the bed with the Mayor. They are rubbing toes together and massaging each other. "Mikey please scratch my back, a little lower."
3/06/2012 05:52:00 PM
That is true come on mikey "don't be scared"! GIT ER DONE KID!
Anonymous said...
WE NEED TO DROP THE COLLEGE REQUIREMENT AND HIRE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE JOB. The generation of "college" kids we hiring now, all think there supposed to be the boss, not working Police Officers. That doesnt do any of us on the street any good. I have my college education, but still know what this job is all about. Its called good work ethic and law enforcement, not just report writing after the fact. Apparently, pride in ones career/job is not a class in any accredited college program. Never thought Id see the day the "dogs" would be the vast majority and the model Officers.....
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You probably (1) have no college or (2) earned your Master’s degree at Calumet College. But do not flatter yourself, if you have a Master’s degree from a diploma mill; I have seen the aptitude of these degree holders—I am more impressed with someone who earned 60 hours at a community college. I have seen the assignments from these diploma mills; and, yes, a community college education has more substance. But, speaking of education, some college should be required. By the way, the college educated officers are going to outscore you on the promotional exams. Additionally, the college educated officers probably grasp the law better than you ever will.
3 districts closed, 12% reduction
2 detective areas closed, 40% reduction
I don't even want to do the math on how many police officers we are down from full strength, lets say 15-25%.
Command staff of the CPD, no reduction since G-Mac arrived.
50 aldermen, any chance of a 12%, 40%, or 15-25% reduction of them?
Remember, its all about the children
I was looking around at roll call in Area 3 (north) with the influx of new people. Most of us are pretty long in the tooth. What is the city planning to do w/in the next several years when many of those det's have pulled the plug? Just like the mass hiring they had to do in '86, now they will have mass retirements. About half of those from '86 are gone already. What's going to happen by 2015 when the rest are maxed out? Many, many people in A3 pulling the pin shortly, especially those who are 55.
Whoever is reading this that is getting hired. Rethink joining this Department. Why would you want to work under spineless leaders, why would you want to be forced to live in this cesspool of a city and have to raise your families in it. This on top of numerous other negative reasons. I am sorry I ever decided to work here. If you have a college degree go to FEDs, best are DEA, ATF,ICE. Numerous other suburban agencies in Cook County that pay better, less work, no residence requirement, better equipment. Especially in the northwest Suburbans, can't go wrong up there. Stay away from this Dept., it's too late for me I have 15 plus I got to stick it out. Just talk to some coppers and read this blog to get a good idea of the shit sandwich your about to take a bite of.
let's see, 50new officers. At least 20 of the 50 will be assigned to the desk or offices. These will be daddy's girls and boys. Ten will be fired because of a bullshit charge by the superintendant. Some will be whizz kids who will be Sgts and some Lts in 5 years, if they can wait that long. Some will be just POLICEMEN who know how to do their job. A couple might end up like THE HOG WITH THE BIG NUTS and one of his partners in crime oops! I ment the city councel.
Who is he talking about when he mentions deadbeats and cheaters? Sounds like the extended Daley Family.
HELLO Here's a Thought
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$It would be cheaper to pay PTI or ISP to train Chicago Recruits and then close the academy and put over 25 Cops (Former Instructors)back out onto the street fighting crime in the high crime dists since most are assigned to the academy and the Good SGT wont be able to enjoy his 3 hour workouts
1st of all PTI closed. Way to be up on that news. 2nd of all Frank stop being so bitter. It wasn't personal. It was business. 3rd what Sgt are you referring to. If it's the former SGT who returned for g8 only, he doesn't belong to the unit and will be gone as soon as training is done. With all that time sitting around and doing nothing, you could check your facts.
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Whoever is reading this that is getting hired. Rethink joining this Department. Why would you want to work under spineless leaders, why would you want to be forced to live in this cesspool of a city and have to raise your families in it. This on top of numerous other negative reasons. I am sorry I ever decided to work here. If you have a college degree go to FEDs, best are DEA, ATF,ICE. Numerous other suburban agencies in Cook County that pay better, less work, no residence requirement, better equipment. Especially in the northwest Suburbans, can't go wrong up there. Stay away from this Dept., it's too late for me I have 15 plus I got to stick it out. Just talk to some coppers and read this blog to get a good idea of the shit sandwich your about to take a bite of.
3/07/2012 01:35:00 AM
You have no idea how hard it is to find a law enforcement job. Try applying in the suburbs. Every department has a long waiting list. Quit complaining like a bitch and be grateful you have a job. The same for federal agencies. Maybe you have not heard about the high unemployment rate? Some coppers are never happy.
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HELLO Here's a Thought
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$It would be cheaper to pay PTI or ISP to train Chicago Recruits and then close the academy and put over 25 Cops (Former Instructors)back out onto the street fighting crime in the high crime dists since most are assigned to the academy and the Good SGT wont be able to enjoy his 3 hour workouts
3/06/2012 10:14:00 PM
Ask yourself, what is left of the academy staff? There are numerous light duty officers, several princesses hiding inside as secretaries? Where will you send officers for inservice training? To the suburbs for classes? Sounds like someone has their panties in a bunch. Lighten up and quit watching what everyone else are doing. There are too many female back stabbers at that place of higher learning. The academy sounds more like a high school.
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HELLO Here's a Thought
$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$It would be cheaper to pay PTI or ISP to train Chicago Recruits and then close the academy and put over 25 Cops (Former Instructors)back out onto the street fighting crime in the high crime dists since most are assigned to the academy and the Good SGT wont be able to enjoy his 3 hour workouts
3/06/2012 10:14:00 PM
Sorry you got turned down for that position at the academy. I'm sure you could have told everyone how its really done.
Shut up about the "Hair Gels" already. It's the same as you old farts using pomade when you got on the job. Jesus. I'm glad I work in a district where nobody gives a rats ass about age and everyone has each others backs. Grow the fuck up.
Keep track of the millions over the years being spent and not used for the pension fund , money long over due. So when the Mayor is asked where is the money we can show him the city does have it. Money for raises as well.
That's our money, it is owed to the fund.
Just like social security going to people who never worked. That was never the intention.
I love Alderman Beavers. He's a real deep thinker.
maybe 20 of them can come to 001 to get on tact...we only have 100 + tact people....
Hey whats wrong with Calumet College? I received a 4yr degree through the traditional program prior to becoming Cpd? Hell after 5 yrs that degree landed me a job with the feds.
50 new recruits. I guess bids to every district is next. Not!!! Maybe now I can get a summer furlough after 15 years on
Dont drink the koolaid
WTF. "Hairgels" are the hard chargers that get made fun of for working hard for a for a f'd up police department AND simultaneously a bunch of wimps who do not know how to work hard because they went to college. Make up your mind. Of all the things to be pissed off at, a bunch of young kids coming onto the job-which you all were at some point- is a sad and silly thing to be upset about. I am a "hairgel" that works in 7, shows up to work and makes arrests, does not ever complain, and makes everyone laugh while I'm at it. Maybe my partner and I are the exception to the rule but we work hard with pride for this job. F U if you think everyone who is young with less than 10 years on the job sucks. There are people at every stage of the game on this department that are great and there are those that suck. Find something else to be upset about.
3/06/2012 10:14:00 PM
Don't be discouraged by these dorks. I was recently told by a member of my team that I like still being aggressive and working because I got less time on the job than them. Guess how many more years they have than me? 1... I told that person it's not about being younger, having less time or being aggressive. It's about taking pride in what you do. And that person should know better making that comment. It's not like my partner and I are going out there stopping everyone that walks. That isn't police work.
This is all so frustrating. I am an officer at a department in the Chicago suburbs, and part of me wishes I had been hired in Chicago. I grew up surrounded by Chicago cops... Neighbors, friends, and family. As a kid, I looked up to those men and women as my heros. Now, as an officer myself, I see just how disfunctional the entire Chicago Police Department is, and it sickens me. I still know many, many great officers in Chicago. It is just a shame they work at a department tainted by moron bosses, clout babies, slugs and do-nothing's. All led by a jackass Superintendent. As I patrol my quiet area, I wish I could get involved in the city action, only because I'm a very aggressive officer. I just know I wouldn't survive with all the dumb BS, and lack of department support.
I wish you guys luck, and only hope someday a leader can come in and turn things around!
Ok Mike Shields your number 1 priority is to make sure pension is solvent, weather you have to go to court,whatever you need to do "just due it" We know you are doing a forensic audit of FOP books,and you are going after "The Italian" Greg Bella,If he took our money he needs to be brought to justice! But you must also check those that are with you are they were they involved?
got on off '91 test
28,000 took the test
they hired about 10%, or 2,800
Whoever is reading this that is getting hired. Rethink joining this Department. Why would you want to work under spineless leaders, why would you want to be forced to live in this cesspool of a city and have to raise your families in it. This on top of numerous other negative reasons. I am sorry I ever decided to work here. If you have a college degree go to FEDs, best are DEA, ATF,ICE. Numerous other suburban agencies in Cook County that pay better, less work, no residence requirement, better equipment. Especially in the northwest Suburbans, can't go wrong up there. Stay away from this Dept., it's too late for me I have 15 plus I got to stick it out. Just talk to some coppers and read this blog to get a good idea of the shit sandwich your about to take a bite of.
3/07/2012 01:35:00 AM
I've been telling people this for years. Growing up in the city, you see CPD as The Real Police and the suburbs are just places where you'll get a traffic citation for breathing wrong. While I waited 3-4 YEARS for the next test I kept finding these suburban departments that paid more, called you quicker, and actually gave you a chance to progress in your career. I got love for CPD b/c I'm a city boy at heart but the city asks too much in return for too little, which is why Chicagoans work in outside departments...30 miles from home.
Listen up, a college degree is not required to do this job. All you need is 60 hours of course work to be eligible to take the entrance exam. A degree from any college does not make you any smarter than the next man. It does however, make a statement about your character. I applaud any officer with an undergraduate degree. Officers with advanced degrees kudos to you, espesially if you are married with children and earned your MS while working this job full time while working a side job, being involved in scouting, baseball, basketball and hockey. Everyone stay united, work together as a team, call for back up if you think you might need it, you probably do. Trust your instincts, rely on your training, stay focused and succeed. At the end of your tour go home safe to your family.
They could hire none. Just Sayin'...
(OT) Us marshals are hiring now!
http://www.usmarshals.gov/careers/exam_flyer.pdf
3/06/2012 11:24:00 PM
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So is the C.I.A. And they're advertising for applicants. I guess they've given up on silently recruiting.
it's too late for me I have 15 plus I got to stick it out. Just talk to some coppers and read this blog to get a good idea of the shit sandwich your about to take a bite of.
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you don't have to stick out a fucking thing. Quit! See if you can find another job with pay and benefits like this. Check the unemployment stats.
Yea, there's problems, BIG problems. Goofy bosses? Yes, but some good ones too. Citizens don't like us? Good people appreciate us, bad ones don't. That's everywhere. I could go on and on.
The bottom line is this: if it's so horrible, just move on. A job should not be like a prison sentence: "I'm doing my time". Life's too short.
Life's too short.
3/07/2012 09:44:00 PM
yes, i know.
Chalkie
WE NEED TO DROP THE COLLEGE REQUIREMENT AND HIRE PEOPLE WHO WANT TO DO THE JOB. The generation of "college" kids we hiring now, all think there supposed to be the boss, not working Police Officers. That doesnt do any of us on the street any good. I have my college education, but still know what this job is all about. Its called good work ethic and law enforcement, not just report writing after the fact. Apparently, pride in ones career/job is not a class in any accredited college program. Never thought Id see the day the "dogs" would be the vast majority and the model Officers.....
Have been preaching this for years.. We have hired a generation of entitlement. They disobey direct orders, bypass the chain of command, and use their college education to hide from being the police. Don't get me wrong, not all of them are bad, but the vast majority would rather check my spelling and grammer, than put the bracelets on people.
We need more people that realize what a great job they have, take some of these problem kids and let them do construction work or dig ditches, then lets see if they appreciate this job.
I'm a recently-redeployed Army veteran of Afghanistan who has combat leadership experience, been engaged by Taliban insurgents on dozens of occasions, taught Afghan National Police how to be cops (which is impossible to do), and have expertise in firearms and Combatives (hand-to-hand combat). I applied and took the test for Chicago back in September. My lottery number was in the 5,000s out of 6200. I know other Army Soldiers and Marines who have low lottery numbers as well.
I endured stress in one year that most will never endure in a lifetime. I’ve dealt with the most hate-filled, destructive, and anti-American people that have ever walked this earth. Every day was spent dealing with snipers and IEDs while we taught Afghan police how to be cops, cordon off crime scenes, conduct counternarcotics and murder investigations, and above all, make it home alive. Yet, I'm not good enough to be hired by the CPD? Thanks but no thanks. What the news media or the department should do is a study on what kind of recruits you guys are actually getting. If you're getting military vets (which I doubt you are), you're getting all of the cooks, analysts, and dental assistant "veterans" who spent all day on the FOB drinking coffee and searching Facebook. Meanwhile, all the real, disciplined Soldiers who actually went outside the wire (Infantry, Military Police, etc.) like me are going to LAPD and other departments because CPD said “fuck you” to us.
All I can say is have fun with your new probationary officers who are all grocery store clerks and people who were Soldiers but really not Soldiers, because none of them have been shot at before or know what the hell they're doing.
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