Punitive Damages
To settle a wrongful-conviction lawsuit against the Chicago police, the city recently agreed to pay Harold Hill $1.25 million.
What never became public was that, to reach the settlement late last year, two detectives in the case that sent Hill to prison for 12 years for a rape and murder he insisted he did not commit agreed to contribute, too. It was not much next to the total settlement — $7,500 each — yet it apparently meant something to Hill.
Without a doubt, the bottom feeders use this tactic to pressure the City over certain issues. And the City knows that as punitive damages start to stack up...you get the idea.
The article closes with this amusing aside:
- As for Hill, he will not be able to spend his money in the outside world — at least not for some time. After he was cleared of the Morgan murder and released from prison, he was arrested on unrelated armed robbery charges and was convicted. He is serving a 27-year prison sentence.
He wins over a million, plus punitive damages and is still doing 27 years for another armed robbery. Must have missed that "turning his life around" window somewhere along the line. Unless he's looking to sue the police for this one, too.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
39 Comments:
Well it looks like McMURDER has it all wrong..
Murders lead to robberies.
Not the other way around.
Where else could this happen except in the most corrupt liberal city, inside the most corrupt liberal county inside the most corrupt liberal state in the country..
Illinois. Not the land of Lincoln.. The Land of Leeches
So who are the detectives? They're admitting guilt? Is this a plea bargin?
Signed complaints. A couple contact cards here and there. Maybe, if someone really pisses me off, a parker, though I don't enjoy bringing revenue in for the City. Call me whatever you wish, but that's what I've resorted to. I call it intelligent self preservation in a predominately communist run City. Fuck this place! Watch out for each other!
can the victim(s) of the new armed robbery sue him for the pain and suffering he caused them--- give the vic(s) the 1.25 million and suspend the 15,000 the coppers are supposed to pay this shitbag....
I wonder if the victim of the attempted robbery could still sue this jagoff for their emotional scarring when jagbag tried robbing them?....wouldn't that be some sort of poetic justice? Or better yet, maybe he fought with the police at some point in time and they can sue him for their injuries.
....wishful thinking.
I am sure Mr. Hill's family will enjoy spending his ill gotten gains for him. After the lawyers take their cut he probably only has some chump change left. Any of these assholes who get caught up in these investigations and arrest are low lifes anyway. If they didn't do the crime they got sent away for think about how many crimes they did and never got caught.
The FOP should have picked up the $15,000 tab for these two detectives. Probably not. Our "leaders" are too busy pissing that money away on themselves. How about a fundraiser for these guys?
There's a cure for this. It's called DOING NOTHING PROACTIVE. 1st & 16th is all you need to know, folks.
Not saying that you can't get jammed up for just answering your calls, but the law of averages is on your side when you don't stIck your neck out - especially for unappreciative savages.
I'll save the "real police" in my bones for those that truly deserve it, and it AIN'T the ghetto bastards.
Fuck this job. Fuck this administration. Fuck Rahm Emanuel. Fuck the Aldercreatures. Fuck the non-contributing ghetto jagoffs and Sanctuary City transplants.
And double fuck the liberals that made me feel this way.
this is just my humble opinion but, if he can't spend it due to his lengthy prison term, than he shouldn't get the money. What a waste to have all that money and not be able to spend it.
Jus sayin....
Harold Hill? That man is Trouble with a capital T, that rhymes with P, and that stands for POOL! Who he rob? Marian the Librarian?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-city-council-panel-oks-nearly-15-million-in-settlements-20120416,0,1323304.story
is this another settlement from SOS?
keeps brass from having to testify on how they missed pattern of misconduct?
He's gonna have a lot of friends while serving his time. Imagine how many doughnut sticks and little debbies he can buy from commissary. Let's not forget all the summar sausage and ramen noodles too. Gonna be live'n large in the pen.
He should be forced to pay for his own incarceration, but the liberal Democrats would never sponsor a bill like that.
So who are the detectives? They're admitting guilt? Is this a plea bargin?
Stay off the blog you leech.... A copper wouldn't ask that. AND IF YOU ARE A COPPER...Go F*%K YOURSELF for asking that.
The State of Illinois should seized that money to cover his cost of incarceration
Good thing those Homicide Dicks are racking up the overtime they need it to pay for their fuck-ups, what until the feds hear about this then the real fun will begin.
Wow just read that the CANELLA BILL is up for hearing in congress somewhere today. The bill would force those non impoverish criminal to pay for their own stay in prison......got to love it...if it passes
Anonymous said...
The FOP should have picked up the $15,000 tab for these two detectives. Probably not. Our "leaders" are too busy pissing that money away on themselves. How about a fundraiser for these guys?
4/17/2012 02:26:00 AM
Um, maybe I read that wrong, but doesn't it say that the detectives admitted guilt in framing the guy the first time around? If so, why in the hell should FOP pay for them? The job is hard enough without this kind of shit!
Someone should contact the person who he robbed so that that they can sue him for the trama that he caused them.
"Hey!!! But at least i'm a detective while you're still pushing a beat car!" HAHAHA!! Can't tell you how many times i've heard that one
This is just the beginning for these detectives and others who were assigned to Old Area 3 under Burge.
Federal Grand Jury expanding their search from Area 2 Detectives to Old Area 3Detectives who worked for Burge in the late '80's - early '90's, one by one they are being called down to testify at the federal building about their duties, responsibilities and different cases they were involved in under Burge.
Majority of the detectives involved are retired or dead... Just a couple still on the job - including the two involved here.
WTF.... VOTE REPUBLICAN.......
not much to say on this one. i think the events(bad guy's action) can speak for itself. he is an animal turd and will continue to act like one. there should be a benefit for these officers too.
Ha! Good to hear that scumbag can't enjoy his ghetto lottery winnings! Figures he ended up back in jail for another felony- these harvard laureates that cry victim and innocent when they are implicated in serious crimes are no stranger to the criminal justice system. They have had many encounters with police and courts and have done many misdeeds in their "innocent" past. You don't go from "honor roll student" to "murderer,burglar,robber, rapist" overnight folks. And considering he got convicted here, he really must have f*kd up because these judges give these mutts a pass at every turn in crook county.
This is why I only make an arrest on a signed complaint, with witnesses and with full probable cause (not wishy washy "he said and I said and I finna wanna sign a complaint to get him arrested"). Officers, use your fucking head. This could happen to anyone.
Anonymous said...
The FOP should have picked up the $15,000 tab for these two detectives. Probably not. Our "leaders" are too busy pissing that money away on themselves. How about a fundraiser for these guys?
4/17/2012 02:26:00 AM
Bad Idea
That is a lot of BBQ Chips and Red Pop from the prison commissary.
He must be yelling "CAP" for everyone.
P.S. If you don't know what CAP is, you never worked the westside.
Physical ID is the least certain evidence around. I'm sure the Dicks didn't testify that they saw this crime committed yet once again the little guys get screwed. They are doing this so all their cases aren't compromised. That's my guess but I'm no genius. great price to pay literally to protect and serve. Is there an award for this? Just askin'.
So who are the detectives? They're admitting guilt? Is this a plea bargin?
4/17/2012 12:34:00 AM
Question #1:
So who are the detectives?
Go fuck yourself.
Question #2:
They're admitting guilt?
Go fuck yourself.
Question #3:
Is this a plea bargin?
Go fuck yourself.
I would pay that dog on a payment plan for 27 years. Enjoy hope you rot in jail.
Be careful with the fund raiser idea. Punitave damages are rewarded to punish. If the money comes from some fund the officers are not punished. The ass hole judge might make them pay twice. Dont advertise such things
So who are the detectives? They're admitting guilt? Is this a plea bargin?
4/17/2012 12:34:00 AM
Go fuck yourself. That's who the Detectives are.
Obvious this paying punitive damages to scumbags will only get worse. Best thing to do if you are working the job is to lay low. You can still answer your calls and fill out the paper work. If an arrest is called for make it. Get signed complaints. As for proactive aggressive police work that is a thing of the past. This culure we live in now forgives criminal conduct. If you don't chase anyone, don't beat anyone, and just do your job you should be ok. It is hard not to "fight" crime but what is the government telling you. Be the real police and you will pay the price. Fuck that bullshit!
He should be forced to pay for the cost of his latest incarceration.
We as police officers have the right to take defendants to civil court. Make sure they have something to give up first. Stay safe!
For all of those calling this punitive damages, it technically is not. I know because I speak from experience. These are contributions by the detectives to help settle the case so that the City does not take it to trial and risk "actual" punitive damages in a 5-6 figure damage amount.
The City in agreeing to settle the case extort the officers as they did to me a few years ago and hang the realistic fear of allowing you to fight it out in court and face the aforesaid risk "if you don't contribute to the settlement." The City attorneys openly tell you that if you don't contribute, they will let the case go to trial and you will be on the hook for the punitive damage amounts. Believe me, it's pure extortion.
This is more common than many know. There are plenty of cases as such. I tried to file a grievance after I was forced to pay money. I cited the indemnification clause, but then financial secretary, Tim Fallon, rejected it due to its timeliness. The City has set a precedent in these "contribution" amounts and it needs to be fought by the FOP. I brought this up before and received no attention. Hopefully the FOP will look in to it this time and file a grievance on behalf of the Detectives.
The FOP should have picked up the $15,000 tab for these two detectives. Probably not. Our "leaders" are too busy pissing that money away on themselves. How about a fundraiser for these guys?
4/17/2012 02:26:00 AM
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First of all the FOP or anybody else is PROHIBITED from paying the punitive damages. Illinois law prohibits it, thats why they call it punitive= punishment!!!!
And read the article dumb ass the names are right in the Trib article.
The FOP also has a fiduciary responsobility, if they pay one officers punitive damages which they cant then dont you think tht every attorney will then start including the FOP in the suits.
Use his money to pay for his incarceration
They got off cheap. Just saying.
They got off cheap. Just saying.
4/18/2012 04:39:00 PM
What do you know about the case jagoff? You think over 7 Grand is getting off cheap? Fuck off.
The new generation of asshole coppers. Don't do and haven't done shit but they know everything.
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