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Other things that pop up:
- My neighbor works for Chicago Motor Maintenance/Fleet Management and I could not help but notice a marked CPD squad car parked in front of his house for the past 2 nights. I inquired and was shocked to hear that the workers at the area were instructed that they can take card to/from work to "test" them............but my informant at 35th st told me the real reason is to give the "illusion" of more officers on the streets!!! These hacks from downtown are really stretching with this one!!!! With the upcoming 500 new hires and all the motor maintenance take home cars that will make us at full strength right???
....and a reply:
- So, when a frantic, terrified victim runs into the street to flag down some help from one of these auto mechanics, WHAT THEN?
Then they are going to be really terrified.
Another one:
- Starting August 1, all Robbery Dets assigned to districts will be in uniform and will be assigned ALL robbery jobs via OEMC.
All Dets from the Area and Districts will be expected to patrol the street between assignments. At least one Det Sgt will be assigned a Conflict Zone in the Area or District and will ensure his available units are conducting stops in the zone. The Det Sgt will be held responsible for his unit's daily activity.
The Detective Division as it was once known is gone forever.
The D-Unit as we once knew it is already gone, but forever is a long time.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
63 Comments:
NO MORE SERGEANT’S AS STATION SUPERVISORS BEGINNING
1 January 2013
It seems that someone downtown realizes that a great majority of us sergeant’s DO NOT GIVE A FUCK when we are the station supervisor WITHOUT any out-of-grade pay.
Actually even with the extra $40 @ day most of us give a shit about what happens.
5 people shot?
Now 6 people shot?
WHO GIVES A DAMN!!!
I took the lieutenant’s test legit . . did not score high enough and now Mayor 9.5 says you can do the job anyway FOR NO PAY?! Let the bodies fall!
Word has come out beginning 1 January 2013 only lieutenants will be the station supervisor with the possibly of having Captain’s only working the
3rd watch as a “Watch Commander”.
Stay tuned for more updates…
this department IS SO FUCKED UP.. no one knows where it is going.
Alright enough already....
•So, when a frantic, terrified victim runs into the street to flag down some help from one of these auto mechanics, WHAT THEN
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He can whip out a monkey wrench
and throw it at the shithead.
Good, patrol the streets, you guys arent anything special. Majority of cases go unsolved. Everybody likes to think they're David Catuso.
That sounds like nonsense. Whoever wrote that must think Dics get an assignment and then code it out. Thus giving them time to patrol between assignments. It doesnt take into consideration the interviewing of witnesses, photo spreads, evidence processing, and not to mention all those wonderful reports that have to be prepared. Nope this one is B.S.
JUST KEEP SHOPPING!!
And you guys in blue TURN ON THE BLUE LIGHTS AND KEEP THEM ON DAMN IT!
If you have to get out of the car always carry a clip board. Lean forward when you are walking and do it at a fast pace like you are on a mission with things to do and important people to see. Like you are going to a compstat meeting or something!
This gives the citizens the illusion that you mean business and things are under control. Clip boards conjure up images in peoples minds ...you know?
I remember posting something like this in the past and everyone laughed. SCC you made my comment a full post. Downtown though also wants activity from dicks, including contact cards and parkers during their tours if possible. Keep laughing, cuz things will change forever soon.- heard from the inner circle awhile ago. P.S. The mayor is the one that wants everyone, including dicks to write parkers.......
Last time I checked the d unit can leave and go back to patrol. I havent seen that happen on the last few transfer orders so cant b that bad right?
I think its a tad different. Tact unit persons will work with dect's assigned to dist as a robbery mission teams. Please dont discount the large percentage of dects from certain areas whom have juice or a little boost to make detective from the last test. Same as those SGTs who couldnt tie their shoes who scored surprisingly high on the exam to which they were promoted. Uncle wont let his boys suffer that long.
".... but forever is a long time."
ain't dat da truth.
Chalkie
Then I would like someone to tell me when I will have time to type u[ the 30+ cases I get per week?
This might turn out to be a good idea if it is true.Too many detectives have an attitude and fail to realize, they are basically just patrolmen. Years ago before it became an actual rank, the stars were no different than patrol officers. Now if they come back to earth, and some of them were never there, they just tested well; having them back on the street might actually clear crimes. The old detective tactic of suspending the case because they failed to find the victim might end.
Babaha lol so much for the Shining Star at Central Area.
I was wondering why RSevice pulled up in a squad. ..
If they put me back in a beat car does that mean I can now sign up for all the Special Employment that's only available to 9161's?
Well, if it is true then the clear rate will fall even lower.
After 9/11 the dets worked in uniform for a couple of weeks and it was difficult to get people to talk at interviews as they seemed to be waiting for the "guys in the shirts and ties" to show up.
MMD used to have vans with Police markings and blue lights before they went to Fleet. R-men used to complaint they'd be stopped by disturbances and even shot at by the beast. They pay Exempts big money for ideas like this and cut hours at the MMD for the grease monkeys.
On another note, how about installing a "Trunk Monkey" in our cars?
YouTube it for a good laugh.
Allowing civilians to drive to and from work in marked, or even unmarked squads is just foolish & dangerous.
Hope those MMD guys don't wind up being flagged down into a life-threatening situation with nothing
more than a radio.
remember when the state police used to park the marked squads along the expressways with the dummies seated in the driver's seat--- this could be a new strategy for us---
I'm willing to bet the take home cars for the mechanics have working A/C!
Who cares?
They are hoping that if a Det responds to the scene of a robbery with no offender information..then there will be no report and therefore there will be no crime.
And isn't that the goal?
Mechanic friend said its bullshit. CPD/Someone is trying to cover for someone's ass.
"...Word has come out beginning 1 January 2013 only lieutenants will be the station supervisor with the possibly of having Captain’s only working the
3rd watch as a “Watch Commander.”
Its a start--but we still need a desk sgt. The POs do an amazing job on the mechanics (court paperwork, supplies/xerox repair/pcad-etrack and chris wrangling...)--but we still need the accountability of a Sgt. Supervisors get paid/trained to decrease liability, assure correctness and handle conflicts/complaints.
Unlike Sgt DSS players-the Lts are not handling desk sgt duties- and will be just as unprepared to do so in Jan 2013.
Will be interesting to see which lawsuit alleging lack of oversight hits it big first- arrest or inventory or bonding--and which "acting out of grade" member takes the fall.
Two knuckle head mayors putting dufus & rufus types in the command levels has really worked out great for the criminal element in shitcago. Barney Fife looks like Dick Tracy and Chicago appears to be the Crime Capitol of the Country.
Thanks rmd, rhambo, and little big ears in D.C.
The inmates are finally running the asylum.
And what happens when one of these civilians gets shot by a gang banger thinking they are police?
This has been going of for years. You must have forgotten about the unarmed crossing guard supervisors running around in marked squad cars. It's a miracle none of them have been shot.
So does that mean that Detectives can sign up overtime safe city etc?
Type up your reports at home on your own time! All you northsiders who voted for Rahm suck. Yeah, right. But your wife and kids did.
Put robbery dicks in uniform? Just see how many robberies get solved...ever.
Suspend everything !! No more clear closed for YOU!!!
I think the tactical teams will be utilized prior to anything as poorly though out as this from happening. Now get back to patrol and concentrate on your back log!
LAPD under Willie Wilson had the detective cars painted black and white with the city's logo on the side, no strobe lights on top. This was a way of giving the understaffed department higher visibility. It pretty much failed, and was universally hated by the dicks who said one of the big things about being a dick was you didn't get flagged down constantly, and that tended to happen to the "slickbacks," as they were known. This Potemkin village stuff is BS. I was against hiring more cops and have since changed my mind.
Also the cameras are BS and don't make any of us safer. I caught a BS citation recently, apparently I didn't sufficiently come to a complete stop before turning right on red, $100 and total BS. A human being cop would never have written it. Do they have some bean counter looking at the videos?
•Starting August 1, all Robbery Dets assigned to districts will be in uniform and will be assigned ALL robbery jobs via OEMC.
All Dets from the Area and Districts will be expected to patrol the street between assignments. At least one Det Sgt will be assigned a Conflict Zone in the Area or District and will ensure his available units are conducting stops in the zone. The Det Sgt will be held responsible for his unit's daily activity.
The Detective Division as it was once known is gone forever.
Excellent idea what else do they do beside ,we need more officers on the street really it is not like they really care to solves crimes . Thanks Mayor Rahm .
90-100K a year and a take home car!!
Sounds like a nice gig to me.
remember when the state police used to park the marked squads along the expressways with the dummies seated in the driver's seat--- this could be a new strategy for us---
We already do that, just look around at half of any watch!!!!!
Let me get an event #
back in the day a smart copper knew how to get A/C in a dogged out beat car. summer mobile 101.
Whatever you jealous bitches. And the only reason I write jealous bitch is I can't believe how much hate the patrol Div. seems to have for the DUnit. But, if you wanna be mad and pout-fine...
I've made $37K in OT since Jan.1,2012. I can make just as much OT in uniform as I do in a shirt and tie. Say what you want, as long as thugs are getting killed, and that doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon, I'll be filling out the yellow slips.
Not just the D-Unit is upside down, but the Crime Lab is officially done, kaput, thats it. The last of the phoned in heavy weights got their spot and better savor it it because their party is over. There are about 9 POLICE FORENSIC INVESTIGATORS (D-3 Phone call hacks) (HK, MO, Rugai's niece silly Jilly) still on the sheets. Once they're gone, that's it. They shot themselves in the foot by taking (STEALING) 10-20 hours of unquestioned OT for years D-3 pay, to do what an E T does in an eight hour shift after already handling a garage burglary and an aggravated battery. Two ET's handle the same job and turn out quality reports and photography in 1/20th of the time, take a look at those numbers at the next COMPOST MEETING McMellon Head....... AND THAT'S NO SPIN!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
remember when the state police used to park the marked squads along the expressways with the dummies seated in the driver's seat--- this could be a new strategy for us---
We already do that, just look around at half of any watch!!!!!
7/13/2012 05:47:00 PM
Those were not dummies along the highway they were command officers. They didn't even notice a motorist placing a dunkin donut's box on the hood of the squad. Classic picture .
Ret. ISP
So det. will answer radio jobs but not the teams already on the street , area teams, gang teams tact teams only help beat officers when they need an arrest, selective
Anonymous said...
Whatever you jealous bitches....
And another thing...dream all you want patrolmen/ what do you think they're just gonna say ignore the dead M/1 in the street? The job of detectives won't be going anywhere. As for "keeping us busy" LOL!!! Yeah, that won't happen either, guess what- there are an infinite number of witnesses that could be interviewed or re-interviewed. All that will happen is the dets will just cover their tracks better and write more paper but if you think the homicide guys that draft 20 page reports will be writing Parker's and GOCR you don't understand what we do. No it's not rocket science but it's not 2nd grade math either.
For the record, it is a great spot and I hope everyone gets here and enjoys the money and freedom like everyone before you.
This has been going of for years. You must have forgotten about the unarmed crossing guard supervisors running around in marked squad cars. It's a miracle none of them have been shot.
7/13/2012 01:01:00 PM
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They carried police radios and could call for assistance. Oh, and they've been eliminated.
eh, McFuckstick has no authority nor can Racoon dictate what fucking cars we use to go to and from work.
They wanna PAY my fucking ass to drive to work and back, that's another story.
Until then, they can suck my dick if they think I'm gonna drive their shitboxes around when I'm NOT on the fucking clock.
Anonymous said...
remember when the state police used to park the marked squads along the expressways with the dummies seated in the driver's seat--- this could be a new strategy for us---
We've already implemented this strategy. Just go to any hole throughout the city at the right time and you'll see plenty of marked CPD squads parked with dummies in them. WAKKA WAKKA!
Anonymous said...
This might turn out to be a good idea if it is true.Too many detectives have an attitude and fail to realize, they are basically just patrolmen. Years ago before it became an actual rank, the stars were no different than patrol officers. Now if they come back to earth, and some of them were never there, they just tested well; having them back on the street might actually clear crimes. The old detective tactic of suspending the case because they failed to find the victim might end.
7/13/2012 05:56:00 AM
You my friend are a dim witted idiot that probably has a hard time filling out a bus check.
I would love to see you on this job. You would "wash out your first week" when they assign you 10 cases a day.
I do more paperwork and typing in one felony case than you will type for the rest of your career.
Please take the test. I would have to wear depends while I'm watching you..LOLOL
You my friend, ARE A DUMBASS
And by the way my number 86 IQ, Detective is not a rank.
Let's have a round of applause for the fuckin morons with college ejumacations who made the areas the size of counties.
More than 35 miles put on my car today going to 3 houses to interview my 20-page rap sheet victims.
I love the late list...
McHales Navy..
What a fucked up mess...
Anonymous said...
Good, patrol the streets, you guys arent anything special. Majority of cases go unsolved. Everybody likes to think they're David Catuso.
7/13/2012 12:38:00 AM
Its' David Caruso you spongebob watching mush.
Most cases go unsolved because of the 3rd grade writing and prelimnary investigator skills of the hair gel police who are thinking about what mommy is going to make them for breakfast the next morning, instead of concentrating on the investigative logic required for preliminary investigations.
You know.
No phone numbers.
Improperly recorded phone numbers. No dates of birth.
No description of offenders. Inventorying video before letting the dics view it.
Improperly spelled names victims.
Improperly spelled names of offenders.
No ETs called for victims that are injured.
Want me to go on? Believe me I can. Pathetic is all I can say.
Please Please Please. Put me back in a beat car.
I will be yawning and smiling all day knowing that I don't have to type 3000, 4000 and 5000 word narratives from 6-months ago.
McDeerInTheHeadlights has destroyed the Detective Division.
"this department IS SO FUCKED UP.. no one knows where it is going."
Yes we do: It's going down the drain rapidly! Trouble is, no one knows to what depth it will sink (taking the entire city with it. Enjoy the ride!
Whatever you jealous bitches. And the only reason I write jealous bitch is I can't believe how much hate the patrol Div. seems to have for the DUnit. But, if you wanna be mad and pout-fine...
I've made $37K in OT since Jan.1,2012. I can make just as much OT in uniform as I do in a shirt and tie. Say what you want, as long as thugs are getting killed, and that doesn't seem to be ending anytime soon, I'll be filling out the yellow slips.
7/13/2012 06:44:00 PM
Not all beat cops are against you guys. Don't let a few haters confuse you. Many of us feel you guys have it worse than we do because you can't code your job and move on to the next. Hopefully this will just be temporary. I can't see you being able to adequately clear a significant number of robberies if you have to spend time conducting the preliminary investigation and writers tickets and contact cards.
7/13/2012 06:44:00 PM
Not all beat cops are against you guys. Don't let a few haters confuse you. Many of us feel you guys have it worse than we do because you can't code your job and move on to the next. Hopefully this will just be temporary. I can't see you being able to adequately clear a significant number of robberies if you have to spend time conducting the preliminary investigation and writers tickets and contact cards.
7/14/2012 02:37:00 AM
Thank you from a 'D'. Your support means a lot. I am always impressed with you guys and gals in the districts---you usually have so much done by the time I travel 30 minutes to get there. I always profusely thank the beat guys. Thanks again for your comment.
You know.
No phone numbers.
Improperly recorded phone numbers. No dates of birth.
No description of offenders. Inventorying video before letting the dics view it.
Improperly spelled names victims.
Improperly spelled names of offenders.
No ETs called for victims that are injured.
Want me to go on? Believe me I can. Pathetic is all I can say.
7/13/2012 11:43:00 PM
As a detective, it's your job to verify all of that information. If you rely on information from patrol officers, then shame on you. Not that they don't do a good job 99% of the time, they do. And if you aren't happy with the work they do, then maybe you should give them a little guidance--all of the guys/gals in patrol I've met are willing to learn.
Anonymous said...
This might turn out to be a good idea if it is true.Too many detectives have an attitude and fail to realize, they are basically just patrolmen. Years ago before it became an actual rank, the stars were no different than patrol officers. Now if they come back to earth, and some of them were never there, they just tested well; having them back on the street might actually clear crimes. The old detective tactic of suspending the case because they failed to find the victim might end.
7/13/2012 05:56:00 AM
You idiot. With the caseload I have, I don't have time to do more than make a phone call and suspend the case. Shopping? Are you kidding? Lunch? Are you kidding? I think since the merge I've had lunch out ONCE. And that's because my partner and I were waiting for a witness to come in. I bring lunch to work and half the time--no, most of the time, I don't even eat it. We keep getting cases assigned even if we are tied up on something for two days--so then you are even further behind. One day I got 3 copies of my late list in my mailbox.
I don't understand the animosity. Your view of what we do and the conditions we work under are wrong. And as far as leaving the D-Unit and going back to patrol, why would anyone do that? Give up the small increase in pay to go to a position where working conditions are as bad or worse? Grow up and quit hating. It's unbecoming.
Inside info...det will work out of districts doing all felony investigations only.. There will be homocide teamS from the area 3det and a sgt. Svu will still work out area along with cac center. It works trust me
Detectivev
The 008th District has over 10 squad cars down with no pool cars available, so after roll calls the officers sit in the hallways waiting for the on-duty officers to turn their cars in. Maybe the motor maintenance guys can let them use their take home squad cars when they don't need them to get to work and on their days off. Don't laugh, this boat is sinkin fast.
mmd doesnt allow any mechanic to take cars anywhere.that person is in deep deep shit
Want me to go on? Believe me I can. Pathetic is all I can say.
7/13/2012 11:43:00 PM
Another "CPD-is-just-high-school-with-gunz" moment sponsored by SCC..
Another "CPD-is-just-high-school-with-gunz" moment sponsored by SCC..
7/14/2012 01:45:00 PM
THAT'S HILARIOUS. Yeah guys lay off the Det's. They have it rougher than we do in many respects. We gotta stick together. These are our brothers, classmates, fellow COPS so stop the hate. I am a patrol officer and I totally agree with the Det who listed all the screwed up stuff on case reports. Some cops just don't understand that the report they are writing is going to have a life after they sign their name. It should always be written with the next segment of the investigatory chain in mind. Some cops forget that. Forgive us...
Inside info...det will work out of districts doing all felony investigations only.. There will be homocide teamS from the area 3det and a sgt. Svu will still work out area along with cac center. It works trust me
Detectivev
7/14/2012 09:07:00 AM
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Area 3 doesn't exist anymore and homicide only has one "o" in it. You can't possibly be a detective.
7/14/2012 09:07:00 AM
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Area 3 doesn't exist anymore and homicide only has one "o" in it. You can't possibly be a detective.
7/14/2012 10:28:00 PM
Have you read some of their reports, especially the merit detectives? This really could be a merit detective. Go to 26 Cal and listen to some of them testify on the stand. Oh my God!
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