"Demotion" Lawsuit
Eleven police officers who claim they were removed from Mayor Rahm Emanuel’s security detail so officers who worked on Emanuel’s mayoral campaign could replace them have filed a federal lawsuit.
In the suit filed in U.S. District Court in Chicago, the officers allege the city violated the 1983 Shakman Decree, which bars city officials from making political considerations in the hiring process.
A spokesman for the city’s Law Department said the allegations are “baseless.”
“Any claim that the selection of the mayor’s detail was based on political or other improper considerations is completely baseless and false,” department spokesman Roderick Drew said in a statement. “All decisions regarding the detail were made by then-interim Superintendent Terry Hillard, and neither the mayor nor his staff played any role in that process.”
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
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Typical Chicago bs. Workers who are graced with an undeserved spot that was granted to them on the basis of THEIR political connections now have the gall to sue because they are no longer part of the "in crowd." What, exactly, are the special qualifications of the complainants? I mean, besides "I know dis guy."
The sad part is they might get some good coin out of this lawsuit.
This town reeks.
It's all a "Hoop Dream"
Waaa! Waaa! Waaa!
*puts golden bottle in mouth - baby throws bottle*
Waaa! Waaa! Waaa!
I didn't know that those spots were guaranteed. New mayor, new supt., you'd figure new detail guys. I really don't see what the issue is here. They had a great gig, they probably worked it forever, and then they lost it when a new regime came in. That happens. They should be happy that they had it for as long as they did.
isnt the dignitary protection detail a management perogative?
Well commander from 019 gone effective end of business sunday
These crybabies are mad because now they have to go back to wearing a monkey suit like the rest of us and give up the 100's & 100's of hours of OT...at sergeants pay! I don't care for Rahm, but he has every right to pick his own security detail.
Aren't these all those 9160 Security Specialist spots that get Sergeants pay?
Probably they will all gey "Merit Promotions" to Sergeant and this will all go away.
All new people put in those spots will have to sign a waver.
That position is not a rank so you can't expect to keep it forever. The mayor has a right to choose his own staff and their qualifications. I agree with the city on this one. This suit is baseless.
Unit not subject to bid process.
D3 pay,Beaucoup overtime, the ride has ended. Shit in one hand wish in other, let us know how that lawsuit works out for you Greedy Jerkoffs.
Doyle et al v. The City of Chicago et al
Plaintiffs: Patrick Doyle , Daniel Houlihan , John Nolan , Robert Olson , Michael Padalino , John Pigott , Eusebio Razo , Veronica Rodriguez , Michael Roman , Richard Soto and Carol Weingard
Defendants: The City of Chicago and Brian Thompson
Case Number: 1:2012cv06377
Filed: August 13, 2012
If any of these police officers are working next to you watch out they are playing the ghetto lottery by filing a federal lawsuit against the city of chicago. They are not use to being the working Police and perhaps they never were the real Police. How do you make overtime? Well put the uniform on and make on-view arrest not work on the Mayoral Detail for life.
All details or assignments come to an end-you goofs!
Regular cop here . . . . no sympathy for those who made sergeants pay based on their clout. when your clout goes, so goes your sergeant's pay. be happy that all that time while you were shopping for bread for maggie, you made a bunch of money while some 9161 was working his/her ASS off in a shithole district chasing radio assignments.
there were never openings posted for that security detail, so the fact that you had to "interview" for it just means there were more cloutbabies than spots, so they had to weed some of you out somehow. now you're mad that you are back in patrol? or having to work somewhere else at the pay the rest of us make?
sorry no sympathy for those who got to see mount olympus and then got tossed out. it was a privilege not a right.
It is very ironic, very ironic indeed!!!
They are just out for a PAYDAY like the shitheads.
Maybe, after all that special treatment, they started to believe that they really were special.
WAKE UP assholes ...... if you were that high speed you would not be working for the cpd.
Now, jump in the tahoe & I will buy you a cup and reveiw automated case reporting.
You're gonna love it !
These pompous assholes got their spot originally based on politics and clout. Now that it's worked against them they're whining and complaining.
Remember the old saying you live by the sword, you die by the sword?
This lawsuit is completely without merit and is embarassing that these former over priced butlers would stoop so low!
I don't know any one with a good word to say about Rahm.
If Wisconsin can try a recall, why can't we get a recall election in Chicago?
This mayor is worse than the previous mayor ever was.
SCC said: We don't recall any tests or applications being handed out for these spots. Then again, we aren't part of the political circle jerk, so maybe we missed it. But we really don't see how a "promotion" granted on the basis of "political considerations" in the first place is a protected spot.
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I'm pretty sure they will claim they were 'financially harmed' by losing the spots and that will be the basis for their case. (No, I'm not going to waste my time reading it.)
Rahm will claim he wants to surround himself with people he trusts implicitly and that it wasn't a political decision at all.
fuck them
OT: Illinois Jobs,
If we keep repeating the "...as the job market continues to improve.." lie enough some people will actually believe that lie.
Gonna be interesting I'll tell you what.
All those NATO inspired tourist and the hospitality jobs that NATO would allegedly create are just not there.
In fact it's like that movie Planes. Trains, and Automobiles -- " YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY"... RAHM!
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CHICAGO – Illinois’ unemployment rate increased again in July with the loss of thousands of government and hospitality jobs.
The Illinois Department of Employment Security said Thursday that the July unemployment rate hit 8.9 percent. That’s up from 8.7 percent in June and was the second straight increase after nine months of steady decreases.
Department Director Jay Rowell said the increase was expected since national unemployment continues to rise. Rowell added that declines in government employment are likely to continue.
The federal government last week said the U.S. unemployment rate increased a tenth of a percentage point to 8.3 percent.
Governments shed 7,900 jobs in July in Illinois, and leisure and hospitality employers cut 4,300 jobs. Manufacturers continued to add jobs and increased their employment by 1,700 positions.
http://wjbc.com/state-unemployment-rate-rises-again/
It's not just jobs either. It's the wages that are in decline too.
We now return you to your regular scheduled postings.
Demoted to what? A real cop?
What arrogant pricks! Hope they end up buried somewhere far, far from home!
OT. I commend the Medical Integrity unit catching a guy playing softball on the medical. I guarentee nothing will happen to his ghost payroll job at Area 1 in the mean time.
I just learned of the Area 1 det busted playing softball while on the medical. Truly embarrassing and no one feels bad for you.
Anonymous said...
Doyle et al v. The City of Chicago et al
Plaintiffs: Patrick Doyle , Daniel Houlihan , John Nolan , Robert Olson , Michael Padalino , John Pigott , Eusebio Razo , Veronica Rodriguez , Michael Roman , Richard Soto and Carol Weingard
Defendants: The City of Chicago and Brian Thompson
Case Number: 1:2012cv06377
Filed: August 13, 2012
REMEMBER THESE NAMES, these are the clouted spoiled prima donnas that feel real police work is beneath them. DONT FORGET THESE NAMES, when they turn up in another sweet spot...
Here's hoping this meritless suit is tossed and that these whores are dispatched to the darkest, deepest recesses of RAHM'S south and west side ghettos.
I expect such nonsense out of goofs like Padalino and Roman (ever had a bad day on this job Mikey? Does he even have 10 years on?) but Richie Soto? Come on? You are better than that Richie! You weren't even there for a year were ya? They should all be dumped from the units they got placed into immediately. Roman and Padalino probably have less than 100 arrests in their careers combined and went to narcotics? See how 003 works for them!
Back to the beat car bitches!!!
Plaintiffs: Patrick Doyle , Daniel Houlihan , John Nolan , Robert Olson , Michael Padalino , John Pigott , Eusebio Razo , Veronica Rodriguez , Michael Roman , Richard Soto and Carol Weingard
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Fucking Cry Babies! They probably still live at home with mom and dad!
Anonymous said...
Typical Chicago bs. Workers who are graced with an undeserved spot that was granted to them on the basis of THEIR political connections now have the gall to sue because they are no longer part of the "in crowd." What, exactly, are the special qualifications of the complainants? I mean, besides "I know dis guy."
The sad part is they might get some good coin out of this lawsuit.
This town reeks.
8/17/2012 12:16:00 AM
When Fred Rice took over from Richard Brzeczek he dumped a lot of caucasion officers from Legal Affairs and other places. The Legal Affairs officers were all replaced by African American officers. The dumped officers all sued. Few got anything, one guy got around $60,000 and used part of it to buy a new Cadillac which he called his "Fred Rice Cadillac."
And we all know how those officers got their spot on Daleys detail. You had a good run that others didn't. Get over it and move on. Time for a new crew, you don't get to keep your spot till you retire. Many of you landed softly anyway.
I know at least one got their spot because of who daddy knew, move along.
All these hacks had a connection with the Daley family. I hope it goes to trial and each and every plaintiff is put on the stand and there family connection to Daley is broken down.
Last time I checked there was no open bidding or special training open to all members of the department. Stop your whinning, you had a good run, now get to work.
Very, very disappointed in Pat Doyle.
Financially harmed? Unless you're actually promoted to a higher grade through a test I wouldn't be buying cars and vacation homes based on a spot that's politically connected.
How could any self respecting real police attach their name to this type of silly bullshit??? No different than the mutt attitude when they get removed from the government tit. When are people going to wake the fuck up and accept you're not entitled to anything in this world whether you think you deserve it or not. Despite the liberal mindset that says everyone should get a trophy, sometimes life isn't fair get over it.
Part of the lawsuit is based on the fact that all 11 officers are White or Hispanic.
sorry but f&%k these guys- really most of us pushing a beat car and these clowns want their "spot" back by suing- get real MF's -
Hmmmm....didn't one disphit on that lawsuit smash his car up and get DUI right before he got put on the detail.....seems to me your luck ran with that one.....crybabies.
They are sueing because all the white and Hispanic officers were kicked off the detail while the black officer were kept. The commander told the guys they were getting booted because, "the color of your skin is your sin". This is all about reverse racial discrimination not being a cry baby. When the article was first posted it had a lot more about the suit in it. Overnight the article was edited to make it seem these officers were cry babies. I hope these officers get paid.
Oh, but for good measure they tossed in the race card into the fray, which is definitely going to validate their gross injustice..
Theres a guy that got kicked off the detail and sent to 001. Showed up for a couple days and was never seen again. So these guys are still taken care of.
They probably didn't have less than 7 years on the job and work in 012.
It looks like the raccoon ate the biscuit wheels on the gravy train for these special people. I’ve been dumped two times due to "manpower issues" and never cried about it. All things come to an end, even for the clouted because there is always someone else with more wack than you. Get over yourselves.
There are many units that do not require a test for entry. Narcotics, Fugitive, Legal Officer, etc.
Shakman protects them all! Getting dumped for racial quotas is bullshit!
Learn the law and your rights and maybe you wont have to work a beat car for 35 years.
Now go to your outside roll call and bitch on how your job sucks.
Any lawsuit against the City is a good thing regardless of whether its bullshit or not...Rahm ain't sticking shit in anyone's ears! Fuck this corrupt Crook County!
What a joke, you got in cuz of your clout and the assignment is not contractually guaranteed. You live by your juice you die by your juice. This suit should get thrown out asap.
So we should all sue cuz we never had the opportunity to be on the mayors detail making sgt's pay?
Plaintiffs: Patrick Doyle , Daniel Houlihan , John Nolan , Robert Olson , Michael Padalino , John Pigott , Eusebio Razo , Veronica Rodriguez , Michael Roman , Richard Soto and Carol Weingard
Defendants: The City of Chicago and Brian Thompson
Bob Romans kid, didn't that family get enough bites of the apple already, between son, dad and mom.
While I agree with you to an extent scc....I just find that our anger should be directed at a system, not the officer.
And if shakman was violated, then I hope those officers have a nice pay day.
Several of the above names in mass transit... Cry about everything. Ralph Kramden's son is such a loud mouth!
Everyone that works for the city is promoted on merit and dumped on politics just ask them.
Boo Who what ever just go push a beat car like the rest of us you lazy things..
Terry Hillard decided. Terry Hillard of high-priced consultancy Hillard Heintze. Wonder what Rahm paid ol' Terry to hand-pick his security detail?
And what a disappointment that in our huge, highly experienced police department we couldn't find anyone qualified to set up the Mayor's security arrangements. Musta needed outside help because . . . maybe all the experienced guys have left.
OT It's time for CPD to reevaluate every officer on diability pension.
Commander of Crime Lab , Officer Mike Lappe are proud to serve CPD.It's time to put officers behind a desk or telephone and force able bodied officers to do the job they were hired for , patrol the mean streets of Chicago.
Most commander secretaries are politically connected and make the same money I do driving a beat car for shuffling papers and answering phones. Take police officers that are able to travel , run a business, sell cars , insurance etc and put them in the front office of a district or unit .
If CPD can get half of officers back to work that's enough man power to man a citywide unit .
oh, too fucken bad. welcome back to the beat car fucken assholes.it's hard to be the real police. I want my spot back or or im telling daddy, waaa waaa waaa!
cops never stand together for anything. and that is why we always stay in the shit. while I know none of these people we should support any cop who feels wronged. city knows we will not ever stand up together to fight them. too many factions of cops who hate cops.
When pat doyle was a recruit in rhe academy, he made sure everyone knew his wife was on daleys "personal staff",
Week after he got off probation he was doing four hour days in the range.
He was never the police.
That lawsuit list says a lot!!!! Not a working copper in the bunch!!! Had a great gig, now it's over,,,,,,,,typical Obama entitlement society!!!!
Doyle and crew should be embarrassed,,,,,all they are missing is entitlement boy supreme.....TQ!!!! ( but I'm sure that ass kisser has something up his sleeve)
Since we know the people invovlved can we find out WHERE each of them was dumped to??????
Houlihan Gang INV.
DOYLE 016?
Padalino 189
Roman 189
Not sure where anyone else went.........
So im not sure if coming to a unit with a TAKE HOME CAR can be regarded as "DUMPED".
Don't feel sorry for them and the suit should be tossed. They all knew their spots could be eliminated when their clout was gone. What a bunch of entitled cry babies.
No test administered for the position. Possibly a bullshit interview. Making D-3 for years on end. Plus O.T at D-3 rate of pay. Plus Special Emply. at D-3 rate of pay. Plus a D-3 pension. Lets not count "duck days".
I guess going back to a district or unit might cause some distress. Didn't most of them land on their feet?
Just unbelievable!!!!!!!!
Didn't all those guys who got dumped land softly in cushy spots? Hey, why not file a lawsuit there haven't been any FEMALES on the security detail, in oh, maybe since the Indians were the main residents? Unless there's something I haven't heard.
What a bunch of jagoffs.
"the color of the skin is your sin" news reporting commander told that to white officer dumpt from detail
The security detail under Jame Byrne sued and did settle for a lot of cash for overtime worked in which they did not put in slips until after they were transferred from the detail. However, this exempt position of security specialist is pensionable at sergeants pay. They would be smart to retire now if they have the time. Terry Hillard released a statement that every selection to the security detail was based on recommendation by the seciret service and no politics or clout was used whatsoever. LOL. After you pick yourself off of the floor with laughter you should ask the department for a copy of the announcement of the position. See what they say.
I don't ever feel sorry for any Politically Connected coppers!
Go back to work on a beat car like everybody else and shut the fuck up!
19-Paul this noise!
Da Pelon
A quick story about a guy I know that worked on the detail.
First, he was in a specialized unit (SOS) in the late 90's and he was detailed to drive Superintendent Rodriguez. That job lasted only a few months before being moved to the Mayor's detail. He first started driving Daley's wife but then became one of the Richie's main guys.
Here's the crazy part--- his pay check was still always sent to SOS. Well, he had the desk guy always pull his check so no one would ever see it. But, even the desk guy takes days off. So, the full in desk guy copied the guys check and posted it. Well fuc him!!! This guy was not only making Sgt grade but he was doing about $5,000 a month in OT. He had grossed something like $187,000 and the year (1999) still had a few checks before 16Dec.
Obviously, he was pissed but he didn't get a lot of sympathy form the troops.
To make matters worse, he goes on to say he spends a ton of his own money buying food for the mayor (cause richie doesn't peel off a $20 and give a lunch order, he just says go get this...). Apparently, the city reimburses these whores for buying the mayor (and his family) food but it takes anywhere from 4-6 months to be reimbursed.
So, I don't have a lot of sympathy for these people. Fuc them!
I hope they win. The city loves handing money to these low-life lawyers who then funnel campaign contributions to the politicians. If I could figure out how to sue the city I would, and so would you.
Give Me A Break! I am retired now but was there when one of the po's in the "lawsuit" got the call. They worked the street for five minutes, and were working inside at the time, as they did for most of their short career. The call was from another po who worked inside and was now assigned to the detail. This po had no special qualifications, didn't even do a very good job inside. They were afraid of the street and wanted to make the money. This po and the others need to get over themselves and if they are afraid to do the job then quit. I hope they know in their heart this suit is completely wrong and makes them look ridiculous. And as the other poster said--noone will want to work with them!
They have branded themselves forever . The city does not forgive or forget these lawsuits .
recall yrs back when old man Daley took the cops away from the States Attny office and sent them to districts, they cried like babies and didnt know how to make out a case report, one guy in particular went to the old 006 and actually refused to get out of a car during a disturbance,sat and read a book on carpentry instead,this fool told ppl he didnt know that he fucked the job by living out in western burbs and when this genuis got caught he wondered why...
the nurses yrs back at the medical section sued the city when they were pulled out and put in dists,the city made them all dicks or other based on their clout if they dropped the suit which they did,,,,,
The lawsuit is bullshit but I heard they have cmdr bt on tape with racist statements so no matter what a patrolman acting as cmdr is way over his head and he cost the city some$$$
As long as they're not trying to get FOP to pay for their losing endeavor, sue away
Well, to be fair, the spots aren't "guaranteed," however, something stinks in Sweden when all the WHITE guys get demoted and all the African Americans get to stay. If it were the other way around, the race card would be pulled and all hell would break loose. WHY can't these guys file a lawsuit when they were actually told by the commander, "Your skin is your sin" ????? Sounds like a racially charged move if you ask me. Why does racism and discrimination only work when those claiming perpetration against them are African American? There's no such thing as "reverse descrimination." Discrimination is discrimination. Good luck officers and I hope you win a ton of cash. If the African Americans can sue and win payouts then you should be able to as well. I'm sure all the firemen were thrilled when the African American candidates sued and got back pay and seniority when they couldn't even pass the test.
Come on,no one promised these officer that they would be taken care of there whole career,get over it and be glad you have a job.Join the rest of us pushing a beat car.
Roderick Drew = "Baghdad Bob"
while on the board of directors of fannie mae, rahm made 18 million. what exactly did he do for allthis money? has he paid his taxes lately? what exactly do we know about our new leader? do some of his deals look a little tainted? a leopard dont change his spots.
Anonymous said...
OT: Illinois Jobs,
If we keep repeating the "...as the job market continues to improve.." lie enough some people will actually believe that lie.
Gonna be interesting I'll tell you what.
All those NATO inspired tourist and the hospitality jobs that NATO would allegedly create are just not there.
In fact it's like that movie Planes. Trains, and Automobiles -- " YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY"... RAHM!
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CHICAGO – Illinois’ unemployment rate increased again in July with the loss of thousands of government and hospitality jobs.
The Illinois Department of Employment Security said Thursday that the July unemployment rate hit 8.9 percent. That’s up from 8.7 percent in June and was the second straight increase after nine months of steady decreases.
Department Director Jay Rowell said the increase was expected since national unemployment continues to rise. Rowell added that declines in government employment are likely to continue.
The federal government last week said the U.S. unemployment rate increased a tenth of a percentage point to 8.3 percent.
Governments shed 7,900 jobs in July in Illinois, and leisure and hospitality employers cut 4,300 jobs. Manufacturers continued to add jobs and increased their employment by 1,700 positions.
http://wjbc.com/state-unemployment-rate-rises-again/
It's not just jobs either. It's the wages that are in decline too.
We now return you to your regular scheduled postings.
8/17/2012 04:45:00 AM
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The mayor is trying to lure tourists to spend money in Chicago. Perhaps the national coverage the city's rise in violence received this summer turned tourists away. World class city or not, people want the place they visit to be safe. They don't want to be struck by a stray bullet or be battered and robbed.
http://www.thedailybeast.com/newsweek/2012/08/13/rahm-emanuel-s-chicago-10-travel-hot-spots.html
All those who got dumped ended up in good units. They should be happy that they are in 189 or 193 and not stuck chasing the radio like the rest of us.
I think it's obvious why they were fired. It has less to do with race and everything to do with spoils and corruption. Mayors, especially corrupt machine city mayors are engaged in lots of shenanigans and Chicago is the model corrupt machine city. Real cops shouldn't be on the personal security detail. They see too much, the mayor would be out of office in the first few hours of his/her term.
I'm quite certain none of these prima donna's have gone back to a district and a beat car. They all were taken care of to the extent that they went to nice units with decent spots.
That's up until now. I got to think when they lose this lawsuit, and you know they'll lose, now that their names are out in public the city is going to make damn sure that they go back to pushing a beat car. Rahm is a s.o.b. and you know he'll make sure these arrogant idiots get what they deserve!
Always the ones with the biggest phone call who have the greatest sense of entitlement. Instead of being grateful for getting spots simply because of who they know they piss and moan like little bitches. Try working for a living assholes. We have plenty of unmanned cars in our violence zone district. When did this job become filled with so many entitlement assholes.
OT: Illinois Jobs,
If we keep repeating the "...as the job market continues to improve.." lie enough some people will actually believe that lie.
Gonna be interesting I'll tell you what.
All those NATO inspired tourist and the hospitality jobs that NATO would allegedly create are just not there.
In fact it's like that movie Planes. Trains, and Automobiles -- " YOU'RE GOING THE WRONG WAY"... RAHM!
8/17/2012 04:45:00 AM
London complained of the same issue regarding the influx of tourist and tourist $ with the olympics. Most businesses did not make money and many lost revenue. Must be global.
Lol...really... I lost my spot and now I'm going to sue!...really? Suck it up losers. Not only are you making yourself look bad but the dept. as well. You lost your non- bid spot, move on already. You are not owed anything!
Poor babies. Got to love How Brian Thompson goes from Michigan ave foot in 018 to mayors detail then gets bumped to Commander. Wow he just leap frogged sgt. and lt. Must be nice to be heavy!!!!!
Demoted to what? A real cop?
Actually promoted from valet and coat holder to a real cop.
Hey, hotshots! TUFF SHIT!!!
I think you guys are missing the point. The guys chosen to guard Rahm had no experience. They were simply volunteers when he was running for the office. Just because they carried his coffee, stood on stage, or passed out buttons, does not make them a security expert. If that is how they were selected, then that was wrong no matter how you look at it.
Man, filing that suit takes balls. Pigott-boss's kid. Roman-play boss's kid. Don't know the others but Houlihan sounds familiar. Hey you crybabies, nothing lasts forever in the would of details, or appointed spots. Do you think some judge is going to rule in your favor? If he did, that woud mean every boss that gets sent back to his real rank (dumped) would be able to sue because his pay was cut? Give me a fucking break. You had it good, all things come to an end, so get those uniforms cleaned up and grab a set of keys.
Goofs
So part of the problem is that they kept black PO's on the detail but got rid of the rest? I count 5 maybe 6 PO's of Irish lineage on the demoted list. I don't see and Polish, Serbian, Croatian, Greek, German, Lithuanian names on the demoted list. Maybe they should sue also for not having a chance at the detail (sarcasm).
Ahh my Irish friends losing is a bitch, deal with it.
Just for those wondering what these mayoral guards get is a 5000 dollar check for Uniform Allowance because they wear suits..........actually I think it's around 7000 bucks now a days and it's usually paid all at once the first year you are assigned to the detail.
The samething happened to DR who was head of Homeland Security. When Preckwinkle came in she replaced him with Mike Masters. He's a working policeman, I never heard him complain, i even heard him say he would help Masters. Now that's class! They should take lessons from him.
Who would want to guard Rahm anyway?
Ha ha 007 needs some more bodies you spoiled do nothing, scared, tools. All of you took somebody else's spot when Daley picked you now let others enjoy it. See ya.
Please, please, please let them win and get rid of , Richard Soto and Carol Weingard from Mass Trans. Jeez these 2 just don't give up crying. And John Pigott made a phone call to get on tact. A frigging phone call to get on tact!!!!
It is a two-pronged lawsuit concerning racial discrimination and a violation of the Shakman decree. Nothing more...nothing less. The merits of the case cannot be denied. You might not like the fact that these officers were compensated at a D3 rate of pay but they are entitled to the same protection of the law as other officers / employees.
They will win this law suit. The city screwed up and played the race game. Wait until the depositions are taken and it becomes public record how uncle Terry blew it!
I believe that they were dumped based soley because of skin color. It has been in practice for years on this job especially tact teams. When they need to bring someone on tact they usually dump the same etnic person. The should sue based on the fact they were dumped by the color of their skin and not their performance.
Well then make BT pay these officers punitive damages since he is the one with the discriminating mouth. Because if the city has to pay, that means its coming out of us taxpayers pockets. Thats what pisses me off.
I could kick myself for not filing lawsuits and getting extra retirement monies. Had numerous blatant discriminating and harassing incidents happen to me on this job over my 30 years. Most with witnesses. I never thought of filing a lawsuit, maybe said it, but never did it. I thought we cops are supposed to get even with the discriminating mthr fker thru use of clever slick tactics and just ruin the mthr fker's life.
Anonymous said...
Who would want to guard Rahm anyway?
8/17/2012 06:06:00 PM
I would.
Chalkie
Anonymous said...
All these hacks had a connection with the Daley family. I hope it goes to trial and each and every plaintiff is put on the stand and there family connection to Daley is broken down.
Last time I checked there was no open bidding or special training open to all members of the department. Stop your whinning, you had a good run, now get to work.
8/17/2012 07:46:00 AM
I believe Carol Weingart's dad was a great old school Robbery Detective and later a very good sergeant to work for. I know nothing about connections to Daley but I worked for her dad and he was the real deal.
A robbery dick back in the days when an arrest warrant for armed robbery was like having a double zero license as in 007.
Not a policeman amongst any of these people. Don't sit here and tell me this or that. The two clowns in 189 can't find narcotics in the Crime Lab. They do not belong in units when people all over the city have been busting their asses locking dude up and really DESERVE a chance at a unit. They leave a DETAIL and get moved to a unit with TAKE home cars?
As far as OT how about get a side job like the rest of us deusche bags!
I work with J P didn't know him before he came here but he is a good guy doesn't complain and isn't afraid to get his hands dirty, if the suit is true they should sue if they were black the reverends would be screaming.
Roman are you FN serious? I seriously don't think he has ever locked anyone up.....21 til he got off probation then straight to hamiltons trap team, then Daley's detail, now back to 189.....cry me a river jizzbag!
Anonymous said...
I think you guys are missing the point. The guys chosen to guard Rahm had no experience. They were simply volunteers when he was running for the office. Just because they carried his coffee, stood on stage, or passed out buttons, does not make them a security expert. If that is how they were selected, then that was wrong no matter how you look at it.
8/17/2012 05:07:00 PM
The Roman kid is a security expert? Based on what, his daddy's clout?
Speaking of lawsuits, did that pretend cop that got his drunk ass arrested (several years ago) while at white sox park sitting in Madigan's box seat actually collect in a lawsuit he filed?
Worked for 1st Lt Pigott and know the whole family. One thing for sure they all got balls and are all stand up guys. A true police family.
Anonymous said...
It is a two-pronged lawsuit concerning racial discrimination and a violation of the Shakman decree. Nothing more...nothing less. The merits of the case cannot be denied. You might not like the fact that these officers were compensated at a D3 rate of pay but they are entitled to the same protection of the law as other officers / employees.
8/17/2012 06:45:00 PM
Some might say that dumpees' assignment to the detail was a violation of Shakman in the first place. I mean, what were their qualifications for the position and why wasn't the average P.O. allowed to apply for the gig? I can't speak on the racial discrimination issue, but who they are related to or who they know definitely got them that detail. And please don't talk about how highly skilled they are. I've seen them in action. If I were Rahm I'd hire professionals. And that includes the officers who were retained.
nothing last forever ,now go get your shinebox.
What's the deal with a certain public transportation sergeant spending a lil too much time within his tour with a Pink Monkey employee?
"I believe Carol Weingart's dad was a great old school Robbery Detective and later a very good sergeant to work for. I know nothing about connections to Daley but I worked for her dad and he was the real deal."
Does that make her a legacy like Flounder in Animal House?
It is a two-pronged lawsuit concerning racial discrimination and a violation of the Shakman decree. Nothing more...nothing less. The merits of the case cannot be denied. You might not like the fact that these officers were compensated at a D3 rate of pay but they are entitled to the same protection of the law as other officers / employees.
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Where did you study law? What merits? They were moved from one spot to another. They were not fired.
Please, please, please let them win and get rid of , Richard Soto and Carol Weingard from Mass Trans. Jeez these 2 just don't give up crying. And John Pigott made a phone call to get on tact. A frigging phone call to get on tact!!!!
8/17/2012 06:29:00 PM
Soto was on "the detail" for less than 6 months and now he's suing? He was a part time phone answer boy before that and when guys started bailing/ retiring they put him in a suit. That lasted a few months until Rahm took over and now the little bitch is suing?? Really??
He got "dumped" to mass transit and that's not good enough so he's got to sue? Get over yourself. You too Carol you had it soft and easy for a long, long time.
I work in mass transit with John, Carol and Rich. Rich is one of my partners and he nor anyone else has complained about anything. Know the facts before you comment. I don't know about clout, maybe more right place right time. John didn't make a call to get to tact he did like anyone else that wants to go to the tact team, he went and spoke to the commander. Rich and Carol are on the 3rd watch and I have worked with both of them. Both are good people and I have enjoyed working with both of them. To get dumped because you are the wrong race no matter what race is illegal and your rights are protected by law. I personally would not want to be on the mayors detail for this mayor or the last one, not that anyone would really want to kill them so the detail is more a waste of resources than anything else. I hope they get what they are entitled too, but to say things about these officers because they had a spot you may have wanted is wrong. Find out the merits of the case and then judge.
Bob Mangan 3rd watch 701
Houlihan, ok guy but have been taken care of whole career. Don't feel bad for them. I agree, new regime will take care of it's own. That's how it should be.
Typical event in Clout City. The privileged few lost their deal and the ones who don't have clout gloat at their losses.
And you wonder why FOP and your whole group doesn't have any strength? You don't support eachother.
You should look into the details. When you tell someone "sorry but you're the wrong skin color" - THAT is BIG-TIME lawsuit - AS IT SHOULD BE.
Reverse-discrimination suits should be thrown at ANY organization because they probably have more merit than the regular discrimination suits.
If the commanding officer was dumb enough to say it - then the city is liable. It also shows that this person maybe wasn't the brightest one to promote to commander - another problem in Clout City.
Bad deal for the taxpayers,(still another problem in Clout City) but how many "discrimination" suits had to be paid out in the ghetto lottery?
PLUS- this is an educational lawsuit. It shows those who think "discrimination" can only happen to them, can happen to everyone - and then - EVERYONE is entitled to damages - even white people.
"sorry your skin is your sin" - that cuts both ways. PAY UP.
Anonymous said...
It is a two-pronged lawsuit concerning racial discrimination and a violation of the Shakman decree. Nothing more...nothing less. The merits of the case cannot be denied. You might not like the fact that these officers were compensated at a D3 rate of pay but they are entitled to the same protection of the law as other officers / employees.
8/17/2012 06:45:00 PM
Some might say that dumpees' assignment to the detail was a violation of Shakman in the first place. I mean, what were their qualifications for the position and why wasn't the average P.O. allowed to apply for the gig? I can't speak on the racial discrimination issue, but who they are related to or who they know definitely got them that detail. And please don't talk about how highly skilled they are. I've seen them in action. If I were Rahm I'd hire professionals. And that includes the officers who were retained.
8/17/2012 11:20:00 PM
If I were Rahm and I were intent on screwing Police out of their hard fought benefits and pensions the way Rahm is doing to us I surely wouldn't want those same employees guarding me and my family.
"Hey, officers, I know I am trying to take back loads of benefits from you and your pals and I know I am trying my best to not only not give you a raise but to give you a pay cut and I know I am sneaking around to make you pay a lot more for the pension that I am dedicated to making harder for you all to get along with reducing your medical insurance that will be much more expensive but hey, that's what I do."
"But hey, let bygones be bygones and would you mind doing your duty and if necessary please go over and above what any reasonably sane person would do and put your life and health on the line for me and my family and stop any idiot trying to do me or mine harm and could you please jump in the path of any speeding bullets?"
"Would you do that for a brother?"
"After all, I am the Mayor and I am only doing what the sheep elected me to do."
Worked for 1st Lt Pigott and know the whole family. One thing for sure they all got balls and are all stand up guys. A true police family.
8/17/2012 11:18:00 PM
Im happy the Pigott family all have balls. I have large balls also, except my balls aren't from Bridgeport.
Worked for 1st Lt Pigott and know the whole family. One thing for sure they all got balls and are all stand up guys. A true police family.
I agree, he's a nice guy who's daddy was a Lt. which is precisely the point. Merit should not be about your lineage it should come down to taking a test and passing it fair and square. For those who argue, some people are not good test takers, thats the worst argument I've ever heard.
The city would be on the hook for a great deal more if collectively current officers sued for not being given the same promotional opportunities as those who have clout, or that paid someone to get their name submittted. With very few exceptions, unless your connected, the rank of Lt. and above is unattainable for most under this current "Merit" system.
The mayor's detail has been and will always be a clout spot. New regime new people. Get over it. For some of you the ride lasted for over a decade. It's over. Stop living above your means. Suing the department is no different than the jagoffs we deal with every day. Grow up.
I personally would not want to be on the mayors detail for this mayor or the last one, not that anyone would really want to kill them so the detail is more a waste of resources than anything else.
8/18/2012 03:39:00 AM
you fail to consider the malicious intent of those organic killer tomatoes.
and the zucchinis can be truly diabolical.
Anonymous said...
What's the deal with a certain public transportation sergeant spending a lil too much time within his tour with a Pink Monkey employee?
8/17/2012 11:56:00 PM
Are you jealous cause your ole lady won't let you play with a Pink Monkey Employee.
This is in part Hoops told EVERYONE he was going to be made commander of that unit. Shocked! Whaaaaaaat? How did this happen? ROFLMAO. You got played !
Who would want to guard Rahm anyway?
8/17/2012 06:06:00 PM
Me! Me! Me! Pick me! Me, me, me!
Aw, forget it. You're right. I don't want to protect TD 9.5 or his old lady or his chilluns. Would anyone like a tomato?
All of this complaining about these guys getting dumped is mind numbing. We need to focus on our contract and pension. They are cops, that had a chance to do something other then patol!!! I worked with Pat Doyle in 011 back in the 90's as a partner and he was a worker.
The samething happened to DR who was head of Homeland Security. When Preckwinkle came in she replaced him with Mike Masters. He's a working policeman, I never heard him complain, i even heard him say he would help Masters. Now that's class! They should take lessons from him.
Preckwinkle was forced to 'eat' Masters. When the Machine works to help you win an election, rest
assured you will have to take some of the Machine's
trash with you. No one was surprised that Hillard
launched both Masters and Roman from the
exempt ranks of the CPD when he became interim
Supt. Those two were just two of many complete
wastes of a hefty exempt pay, useless as tits on
a bull. But when the Machine has your back, you're
never without a clout useless job for which you
have little or no qualifications for long.
Doyle worked in 11 for one year as a ppo, give me a break..went to the range shortly after!!!!
What about Burkes guys over at mass transit trying to throw their clout around to get days
What makes these clowns qualified did they go to DP training, are they previous military trained in this field they fell into?NO, NO NO.. I worked with these dog a** now their life revolves around boo hoo waa waa I'm not doing anything because I was on the mayors detail and got taken off!These people act as if they deserve this spot I think most of these guys could not deal with working third watch in 4,5,6,7,10,11,15,...
Anonymous said...
Poor babies. Got to love How Brian Thompson goes from Michigan ave foot in 018 to mayors detail then gets bumped to Commander. Wow he just leap frogged sgt. and lt. Must be nice to be heavy!!!!!
8/17/2012 03:59:00 PM
Yeah, this Thompson called my district once for the w/c and when I asked who was calling (per the w/c's wishes) he copped a real attitude in calling himself "commander". When I told someone and they said he's just a blue shirt I was floored! What a stroke.
Yeah, this Thompson called my district once for the w/c and when I asked who was calling (per the w/c's wishes) he copped a real attitude in calling himself "commander". When I told someone and they said he's just a blue shirt I was floored! What a stroke.
Really he's more of a stuffed shirt than a blue shirt but yes his civil service rank is patrolman. His paycheck is a Commanders paycheck though.
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