Ignorant Boss
- Our personnel are our greatest resource and as managers we must make tough decisions to balance rewarding our personnel with time off against the needs of the organization.
"...rewarding our personnel with time off..."?
Um, Acting Chief Asshat? That's time off we earned. We earned it staying late, attending court, working shit details and holidays, all the while missing time with what is supposed to be our most valued possession - family.
And now you're going to "reward" us WITH OUR OWN FUCKING TIME DUE? Are you fucking insane? Or have you been deep-throating the McCarthy kool-aid right from the source? How's that taste Joe?
Fuck you. And fuck all these sanctimonious bosses who think they're doing us a favor by letting us use what we earned. From the top on down, screw you, screw your numbers, your CompStat, your endless "more with less" mantra and denying us what is rightfully ours.
Labels: un-fucking-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
112 Comments:
Lay off Patterson. He's one of us and a great friend to the blueshirt.. There are much worse evils in this dept right now. What he said is nothing new.. It's the supt and mayors line he has to tote .. If he doesn't say it believe me they will find someone who will.. I would much rather hear it from joe than some pencil pushing geek who worked at 35th his entire career. Joe is good people
Agreed. These people are assholse of the highest order.
This post is about to explode with comments...and I completely understand why.
Citizen who gives a shit about coppers....
Or have you been deep-throating the McCarthy kool-aid right from the source? How's that taste Joe?
I cracked up when I read this line. Very good, SCC!
Everyone, hit the cash box for everything for the next few months. When 9.5 gets the bill, he'll call McPuppet and tell him the OT is killing the City. Make Rahmmy dip into the snow-removal budget, or the Ceasefire money, to pay us. I think it's time for another march on City Hall. Maybe after the teachers go on strike, have our own march on the midgit. Maybe we can all meet up at Chik-fil-A and step off from there. Show this little Napolean fuck our Chicago values. The more bad press this goof gets, the better.
I saw on the news today the fine reception Gov. Quinn got downstate at the State Fair. Couldn't have happened to a nicer douchebag. Did you take note of that Sen. Durbin? How about Madigan, Cullerton, and the rest of the thieves down in Springfield? And someone please tell the Lt. Gov. to go get her teeth fixed. You're the Lt. Gov. for God's sake. You're making decent money. Get some braces!!! She could eat corn on-the-cob through a chainlink fence.
10-4
We just had another mass of time due denials our district.
"Brotherhood of Corruption"
The City believes that they are shorting the police department, but in reality they are shorting the citizens of Chicago both in the short term and the long term. in the short term, the citizens are being denied the police services they are paying for: afterall, the City has budgeted money for 13,500 officers, but are paying for far less than that (which again raises the question of where is the unspent money going?). in the long term, officers who are overworked and overstressed trying to do more with less will end up getting more complaints against them (remember the six day workweek? most complaints occurred on that sixth day). more complaints, more mistakes on paperwork, more lawsuits, more payouts.
less officers will eventually hurt the city in its pockets. meanwhile, more citizens are just getting hurt physically.
Ex-Daley Security Officers Sue Over Transfers
Replacements had worked for Emanuel's campaign, cops allege
Eleven Chicago police officers who were removed from Mayor Rahm Emanuel's security detail when he took office have filed a federal lawsuit alleging they were replaced by officers who had volunteered on the mayor's campaign.
The lawsuit, filed Monday, said the transfers from the mayor's security detail lowered the officers' ranks and significantly reduced their pay and benefits. They are seeking unspecified monetary damages as well as a return to their previous jobs.
Atty Jonathan Ksiazek said the officers tapped for the security detail got preferential treatment because they had either volunteered to work security on Emanuel's campaign or had political connections to the campaign.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-shakman-violation-lawsuit-20120816,0,4857883.story
Sorry SCC but Patterson seems like he is defending the approving of time off. Yes he's being political by stating the needs of the department. I think he meant to say the right thing, just used bad wording.
XO Capt. M. Ryan in 019 is using this order to fulfill his long frustrated ambition to deny officers any time off. He has been denying out of hand any furlough extensions beyond the 14 day segment and will not listen to any appeal or read any to-from.
Ryan has said he doesn't see why people need any longer than a 14 day furlough. All he has left in his life is this department. And shithole northwest side taverns.
Ryan is the complete department stroke, toeing the company line completely. Good luck getting people to do any work for you jerk.
What a complete pile of shit this job has become. Nothing but idiot asshole bosses. The few good ones are prevented from doing anything positive for the troops. Fuck this place. Retirement cannot come soon enough. All remaining desire I had to do this job has evaporated.
Fuck Joe Patterson and fuck Mike Ryan.
I was a worker and a saver.
I left my last job with 100 sick days on the books.
I currently have over 1,000 hrs on the books and the max. Pers/bfd's
I have over 35,000.00 in bank accounts and thousands more tied up in pensions and defered comp.
I am scared.
I work in a city where contracts mean nothing.
I live in a country where those who produce must subsidise those who don't, even if they weren't born here.
When I read about the pension underfunding and do the math I realize that the polititions never had any intention of making good on their agreements.
I wonder if these "household name" polititions ever stay up at night woundering what "our" response will be when the tide let's out and the consequences of their actions are clear?
But what can we do about this?
you would be surprsed how manay people think that taking time due is like getting a free paid day off.
8/16/2012 02:44:00 AM
Great post! I too am scared shitless and totally pissed. I was a satcom contractor for years, globetrotting from one 3rd world shithole to the next. I saved what I thought would be enough, then lost about 40% in 2008 when the masters of the universe blew up Wall street (I had a lot in "conservative investments" like Bank of America, AIG, etc., and was doing OK on the dividend income. No more dividends of course, and many thousands in principal gone. You all know the story, those bastards all got bailed out and everybody else got screwed.
I actually semi believed Mr. Hope & Change, but that fraud turned out to be another lying scumbag; nobody went to jail, and in the most outrageous case of all, Obama's fundraiser and blow buddy Jon Corzine just skated out from under a BILIION dollar theft of customer money at MF Global!
So now let me add one more to your list; "I live in a fucking country where laws don't apply to politicians or their friends."
Think about that the next time you fill out your tax return, I damn sure will.
"No Criminal Case Is Likely in Loss at MF Global"
http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2012/08/15/no-criminal-case-is-likely-in-loss-at-mf-global/
Our taking time off that we have earned is NOT a reward, and it certainly isn't to be doled out by some idiot boss who thinks he's God (insert name here), but it all started with the Grand Poobah himself, McRetardo.
A reward would be giving us a day off without taking it off of our books. And we all know (at least the cloutless know) that that's not ever going to happen.
Calling time that we worked for a 'reward' is assinine.
You guys might to move to The District of Corruption and contribute to that asshole Obama's campaign, but hurry, the gravy train is leaving in January!
"More than 21,000 retired federal workers receive lifetime government pensions of $100,000 or more per year, a USA TODAY/Gannett analysis finds.
Retired law enforcement is the most common profession receiving $100,000-plus pensions, including 326 Drug Enforcement Administration agents, 237 IRS investigators and 186 FBI agents...."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/48678353
There has always been a limit to how many people can take time due on any given shift. Just because you earned the time due doesn't mean that you and you alone decide when to take it.
8/16/2012 12:41:00 AM
"Get some braces!!! She could eat corn on-the-cob through a chainlink fence."
HAHAHA ... Now I know what BarackStar felt like when he was speedballin' with the "Choom Gang" ... alternating fits of rage and hysterical laughter!
not everyone can have the day off
"...Fuck Joe Patterson and fuck Mike Ryan.
8/16/2012 02:27:00 AM"
Double Fuck Them...
Mike Ryan has the typical Irish family vacation ideal. They go to a different bar.
Are there any good bosses left on this job?
I used to advise young cops to accumulate time on the books (money in the bank so to say). Now I would advise them to take the cash and get as much money as you can into a Roth IRA (out of the reach of the city). Just don't vote for Obama because then you may as well kiss all your money goodbye.
With this type of ignorance, pretty soon we'll be " rewarded " with OUR paychecks.
XO in 019 is an asshole. Always was. Parks his ass at Belmont/Western in a private office and barely sets foot in the station on Addison. Comes in CD everyday; has a take home car he shouldn't have and spends more time at the Newark Nook than he does in the district. I'll bet his time off doesn't get denied. Asshat.
So you're saying management does not have the right to control how many people take the day off? Every other police department (and fire department, and private sector employer) has the right, if not a legal and moral obligation to control its staffing.
Grow the fuck up, this is a job, not a hobby. Nobody's cheating you out of your earned time, you just can't come and go as you please. Yeah we're short, but why should the taxpayers - including ourselves - pay to hire more police just so you can get an extra day off when you don't want to come to work today?
He an ass!!! Now people on the watch know why I max out deffered and I invest any extra money I have.
I do not know Joseph Patterson. However, I would be remiss if I didn't inform you of the following:
(1) Shortly before Bill Cozzi reported to prison, I brought him to the retirement party of a well-respected captain. On arrival, Bill and I chose a large round table by ourselves. While most bosses ignored him and treated him as a pariah, I was moved by two bosses that joined us at the table. One was since retired Captain Charlotte del Torre, 002, and her husband. The other was Joseph Patterson. After their long conversation, Bill told me that (Patterson) was "a class act".
(2) We all remember when J-FLED ran the other way in 007 as officers went into harm's way responding to a fatal shooting that just occurred only moments away. The ranking officer responding to the murder scene was none other than Area 1 Deputy Chief Joseph Patterson.
I'm certain that as the current acting Chief of Patrol, Patterson is a very busy fellow. I assume that subordinate officers draft orders for his signature.
Based on my experience, the CPD could use more bosses like Joseph Patterson.
Is there really some boss in 019 that's going to Fuck a cop out of a $2000$2000 vacation??? The boss's response: I don't want to hear about it
1. Check the money box on everything.
2. File a grievance every time one of these asshole bosses violates the contract.
3. Sell back all your Baby Furlough and Personal Days.
4. File a federal lawsuit for all the hours on the books that the city is denying the use of and not paying you for. Include in that lawsuit that 8.5 out of 12.75 of the hours earned on a holiday are forced to be taken as time on the books that we are not allowed to use.
5. Don't do anything proactive and do not generate activity and revenue for the city.
6. Retire as soon as it is financially possible for you to do so.
bravo bravo bravo SCC. Your are fucken awesome and i wish more coppers started doing less activity for these bosses. Thank you for this website and for having somebody who understands how i feel...
Unlike most brass, Patterson is good people. REWARD was a poor word choice. Amen.
Uncle Terry Hilliard stated in his press release that the transfers of Daleys security detail and the placement of the new mayor's security detail was above board with no politics used.He consulted experts before making the selection. The old security detail stated in their law suit that they were selected without politics based on interviews and qualifications. After you pick yourself off of the floor from laughter you will remember that jane Byrnes security detail sued, and got, a ton of cash for overtime. It always amazes me that people who obtain things, not through ability alone, but through the use of what I would call an unfair advantage, that is politics or clout, cry the loudest when they lose their position and yell out loud on how qualified they are and they " earned their position". Is this the same Uncle Terry who stated he picked the captains based on qualification?
Ex-Daley Security Officers Sue Over Transfers
Replacements had worked for Emanuel's campaign, cops allege
Eleven Chicago police officers who were removed from Mayor Rahm Emanuel's security detail when he took office have filed a federal lawsuit alleging they were replaced by officers who had volunteered on the mayor's campaign.
The lawsuit, filed Monday, said the transfers from the mayor's security detail lowered the officers' ranks and significantly reduced their pay and benefits. They are seeking unspecified monetary damages as well as a return to their previous jobs.
Atty Jonathan Ksiazek said the officers tapped for the security detail got preferential treatment because they had either volunteered to work security on Emanuel's campaign or had political connections to the campaign.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-shakman-violation-lawsuit-20120816,0,4857883.story
I say fuck the coppers that worked Daleys detail. You mean to tell me they got that gig fair and square before????? Yea ok, every cop a part of that lawsuit is full of shit
This "boss" is a peckerhead to the nth degree. Sure, he's doing as he is told by the rahmboy suckhole brigade, but the shit falls on him ! He's getting big $$ and he gets the blame.
So, we can't use time due ? Take the $$ on all slips you put in for overtime.
I'm going to Burger King for a Whopper, I'll tell them to "hold the tomato's". Save them for rahmboy, aka Mr. Tomato Head.
Well its the good ole boy system that you all created and now that either you are not a part of the system or you're too dumb to be inside the system it's working against you.
This makes me want to puke.
the pols like to do things to make themselves look like robin hood. all these noble gestures have consequences. they get away with making cuts to the cpd, because the news media thinks alike. rahm has portrayed us as the villains for posture in the contract negotiations. the criminials and the revs sing the same song. at the end of the day you have to be careful who you sign a contract with.
Quinn=Shrek
Simon=Donkey
we live in a fairy tale world
Joe Patterson is the epitome of an average cop who turned into a jag off boss.
He worked in 009 and got carried and taken care of as much as the next guy. Now He's found religion and wants to dictate when to take a day off.
Hey Joe, go fuck yourself.
You haven't been multiple merit promoted because of you're great law enforcement mind, you're hooked up with some reverends or an alderman. Cut the bullshit. You've lost enough respect.
Anonymous said...
Lay off Patterson. He's one of us and a great friend to the blueshirt.. There are much worse evils in this dept right now. What he said is nothing new.. It's the supt and mayors line he has to tote .. If he doesn't say it believe me they will find someone who will.. I would much rather hear it from joe than some pencil pushing geek who worked at 35th his entire career. Joe is good people
8/16/2012 12:09:00 AM
Fuck you big time. He's "one of us?" Wipe your chin you jizz gargler lackey. If he were truly one of us he would tell McLush to shove his order, get some suckhole like you to sign it.
I know what it means to stand up for the troops and no one who would sign that shithole order is "one of us." Not to get a gold braid pension, not for anything. "One of us" means he would put his career on the line for us and clearly he would not so go fuck yourself.
They are all company backstabbing koolaid drinking assholes. FAMILY FIRST! Two words that the CPD brass dont know the meaning of. Hire the cops we're short, plain and simple.
I heard from a very good source that Joe Patterson got a copy of his order in dept. mail today with some unkind words added on the top page.
My my, this sure seems to have stirred up a hornet's nest and will hopefully do what has been impossible previously, get us all to stand together.
just remeber
employers always try to make you think that they are doing you a "favor" by doing things like this
sort of the old trick they do with
"seasonals' and temps
work real hard and there "might" be a full time position for you
they know you have it coming
but they want to keep you under
thumb
unlike other trades
they can't just call the hall and replace you
or run an ad in the paper
( as we all noticed but not to Them
people aren't exactly knocking the door down for this job)
th only thing that becomes of jokes like this
the people you need ( the experienced ones) get disgusted
and leave thus leaveing the newer people to "sink or swim" instead of being mentored
which in this job one mistake could be your last
also this is "propraganda" by the party to make everyone think
"You Guys Have It So Good" to the public
"I wonder if these "household name" polititions ever stay up at night woundering what 'our' response will be when the tide let's out and the consequences of their actions are clear?"
No, they don't worry about our response a bit.
They're so used to doing whatever they want to do and bulldozing their way and jamming things down people's throats that they don't see the danger they're in.
Don't be surprised when a man with nothing to lose begins acting like a man with nothing to lose.
"I was a worker and a saver.
I left my last job with 100 sick days on the books.
I currently have over 1,000 hrs on the books and the max. Pers/bfd's
I have over 35,000.00 in bank accounts and thousands more tied up in pensions and defered comp.
I am scared."
You should be more ANGRY than scared.
The producers in this society need to get angry and share that and share that anger with these scumbag politicians that think they can run roughshod over us!
So today, call, write AND email your elected "representatives" and share the love.
Anonymous said...
XO Capt. M. Ryan in 019 is using this order to fulfill his long frustrated ambition to deny officers any time off. He has been denying out of hand any furlough extensions beyond the 14 day segment and will not listen to any appeal or read any to-from.
Ryan has said he doesn't see why people need any longer than a 14 day furlough. All he has left in his life is this department. And shithole northwest side taverns.
Ryan is the complete department stroke, toeing the company line completely. Good luck getting people to do any work for you jerk.
What a complete pile of shit this job has become. Nothing but idiot asshole bosses. The few good ones are prevented from doing anything positive for the troops. Fuck this place. Retirement cannot come soon enough. All remaining desire I had to do this job has evaporated.
Fuck Joe Patterson and fuck Mike Ryan.
8/16/2012 02:27:00 AM
It's a shame that this guy is such an A-hole to coppers(except his 2-3 favorites that drink with him.) Besides fucking with coppers time off with their families he is just very unfriendly and cold to most of them. Many that work are now saying they have no interest going the extra mile for this guy. Sad
Sounds a lot like the kind of shit the U of C PD would pull. Same shit-different day. The ghost of Doty continues to haunt us as morale is in the shitter and officers continue to look elsewhere for employment. No wonder it's a revolving door with hiring. Can't keep personnel. CON-STAT rules the house as " bosses " ( WALKER-BOOKER- OWENS ) are more concerned with bullshit traffic citation numbers/contact card numbers to make themselves look good in their Friday meeting. Sgts. ( non-union ) being fired-demoted to make room for the chosen golden ones who can do no wrong. Upcoming Sgts. exam ( no one will sign up ) is a joke as we all know the selections have already been made ( wink-wink ). Who would want to take a supervisors position and leave the union protection? How does someone new to the dept. and still on probation get selected for promotion and training assignments ( ET-Defensive Tactics- EVOC etc ) and other qualified senior officers get passed over? Because there are those who, as SCC says, drink the koolaid, can do no wrong and kiss ass to remain the golden chosen ones.( MS, CW, WR, MS, SE ya know who you are). Go get your 10-15 traffic stops/citations/contact cards per shift and your TVB as citizens get robbed in our area while you go to the 02 to process. Ya think we are the CHP? It's all about numbers/stats and making yourself look good. Mission be damned!!! What a joke!!
Keep Working guys. who cares what they do. your hard work will pay off
Forget about taking time or having a personal life in the 019th District.DENIED
When Patterson was the Commander of 007 he was no friend to the Blue Shirt.
I have personal experience of him not having my back or anybody but his own!
Less than seven years ago Patterson was a merit sergeant having his resume padded during a short stint at #640. Nice enough guy, just not too smart. And now you see the product of affirmative action's race based promotions and how it has destroyed our job, and many others. Save yourself-vote Republican.
Ryan? His mother is a first cousin of former Sheriff Tom Sheehan his and brother Skinny Sheehan. I'm surprised this buffoon isn't the Superintendent.
"Lay off Patterson. He's one of us and a great friend to the blueshirt.. "
Signed Mrs. Joe Patterson his biggest fan & supporter
Hey joseph patterson....FUCK OFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Here is how fucked up things have gotten in our department. There are people at work who still go out there and generate movers, parkers, tows, impounds, contact cards, curfews, school truancy cards, etc.... All in the meanwhile the department does everything they can to fuck YOU over. Can you say "thank you sir may I have another?".
Anonymous said...
XO Capt. M. Ryan in 019 is using this order to fulfill his long frustrated ambition to deny officers any time off. He has been denying out of hand any furlough extensions beyond the 14 day segment and will not listen to any appeal or read any to-from.
Ryan has said he doesn't see why people need any longer than a 14 day furlough. All he has left in his life is this department. And shithole northwest side taverns.
Ryan is the complete department stroke, toeing the company line completely. Good luck getting people to do any work for you jerk.
What a complete pile of shit this job has become. Nothing but idiot asshole bosses. The few good ones are prevented from doing anything positive for the troops. Fuck this place. Retirement cannot come soon enough. All remaining desire I had to do this job has evaporated.
Fuck Joe Patterson and fuck Mike Ryan.
8/16/2012 02:27:00 AM
Let me ask you something why does your boss behave this way? What have you done to change his behavior? In my district we do have enough manpower. Yet only 3 officers can take time off. It used to be 7. In my district even though time off is being denied officers still come in with activity. I look at the bin where you put movers, parkers, and anovs and it's full to the brim. I ask you and others, what have you done to improve your own situation? Oh you wrote 5 parkers and 4 contact cards last night? Well you certainly didn't help matters did you? Can you imagine what would happen if citywide we stuck together?
I heard from some friends that when you submit a slip the boss will look at your activity. If you have good activity then you get time off (time you earned in the first place). If you don't have good activity then- DENIED!
Dont worry, if obama wins re election, you will be taking orders from his Federal National Force of brownshirts, ala Hitler in the19 30's. Exactly what Adolph did when he took over all the local German Police Departments.
Joe Patterson is a good boss and a decent person, stop with the BS
Yes, you will be fucked by the Chicago, Illinois, Crook County Democommunist Party. They will re-distribute your wealth (savings) one way or another. Their push to full Communism is on. Once they achieve it, Freedom will be gone forever.
How is the department bringing in nearly 200 people for bond court every Saturday and Sunday? The less prisoners brought in, the more the city will slowly have to realize their folly of not having enough police.
We need to get the word out. Check the money box every time. We need to unite for once and do this. We need to send a message.
Bottom line is Mike Ryan can't make anyone do shit as far as activity...he can drive by in his Impala and stare at you and that's all. Just wave back wait for him to start shit, be polite, document everything and see this guy in court. Law suits CAN be won AND it would make him even more miserable. See you at the tavern Mike...quit stealing City signs!
Anonymous said...
Forget about taking time or having a personal life in the 019th District.DENIED
8/16/2012 11:42:00 AM
Ya because of all the dogs on the medical all summer, and going on trips while on medical while we all have to work like chumps
Grow the fuck up, this is a job, not a hobby. Nobody's cheating you out of your earned time, you just can't come and go as you please. Yeah we're short, but why should the taxpayers - including ourselves - pay to hire more police just so you can get an extra day off when you don't want to come to work today?
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GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! Your Obviously Not the Police!
Ryan does NOT have a take home car, leaves the work car at work everyday. Ryan's mother is NOT the cousin of Tom Sheehan, you must be thinking of the other Mike Ryan or making shit up. Everyone knows about denying time due coming directly from downtown after the meeting last Thursday, get over it and stopping blaming it all on him. Oh, I am sorry, is he being cold to you, poor baby. Your an idiot for even posting that stupid remark, you must be a woman. Lastly, he is in BOTH stations everyday and is ALWAYS out on the street. The haters posting here are some of the dogs that simply will not work and/or will not follow orders and Ryan WILL NOT tolerate it. The workers love him, the dogs hate him. Once again the simple truth about Mike Ryan. Move on people, go hate someone else today because your never the problem!!!!!
"Ryan? His mother is a first cousin of former Sheriff Tom Sheehan his and brother Skinny Sheehan. I'm surprised this buffoon isn't the Superintendent."
I assume you're talking about former Sheriff Michael Sheahan? He is the brother of "Skinny" Sheahan. I believe they also have a second cousin Jim Ryan who is a Cook COunty Judge--and quite the asshole HE is!)
Fuck you big time. He's "one of us?" Wipe your chin you jizz gargler lackey. If he were truly one of us he would tell McLush to shove his order, get some suckhole like you to sign it.
I know what it means to stand up for the troops and no one who would sign that shithole order is "one of us." Not to get a gold braid pension, not for anything. "One of us" means he would put his career on the line for us and clearly he would not so go fuck yourself.
8/16/2012 09:57:00 AM
Yeah ... another big fucking big balls talker. Telling what HE would do if he were in Patterson's spot. I'm sure this pussy would "put his career on the line" for us like he's telling Patterson to do. Another fucking malcontent who hides behind the blog, telling all of us how horrible all the bosses are. If you had balls, you'd tell Joe Patterson this in person, not smear him on a blog. Go back to your mommy's basement, asswipe.
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Anonymous said...
Lay off Patterson. He's one of us and a great friend to the blueshirt.. There are much worse evils in this dept right now. What he said is nothing new.. It's the supt and mayors line he has to tote .. If he doesn't say it believe me they will find someone who will.. I would much rather hear it from joe than some pencil pushing geek who worked at 35th his entire career. Joe is good people
I don't no "joe" so I don't owe joe but he owes me time I earned so fuck you and joe
remember boys and girls
xo's , exempts and 30% of sgt , lts are all political appointed.
I know , they are nice guys and gals .
When Patterson was the Commander of 007 he was no friend to the Blue Shirt.
I have personal experience of him not having my back or anybody but his own!
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hmmm, and I wonder what it was that YOU did wrong. Im guessing it was something completly stupid that didnt need to happen... Am I right??? Im guessing I am and im also guessing I know who you are.. Your a rubber and you are a hot head. You dont belong on the street to begin with. Your a lawsuit magnet and you dont use your head. You never have and you never will. Your not the greatest cop in the world, you just a guy who doesnt use his head and gets into sh*t all the time... 99 percent of the time the crap you get into is 100 percent avoidable by using your head. but thats too hard. stroke.
Patterson was sponsored thru Klein's merit promotions. I do not hate him, but I do not think he was worthy of being a triple merit promotee.
always talk about a slowdown at work but none of us ever do it. Guys, and gals, I realize that most of you really do like this job, the politics suck, use what you can to get back and make them open their eyes. PLEASE LETS DO A SLOW DOWN! someone needs to pick a day and get word out to all po's
Isn't there a good dui guy working mids in 16??? This jag can't stay away from his spots. Be on the lookout.
Can't wait for his retirement party. A small table at arbys for his few suckholes ought to do it.
I stare, quake in your boots lowly PO's...
Rewarding......really, youmean I don"t have to work for it, they just hand it over.
WTF is that a real person piled undernesth all that BS?
Ex-Daley Security Officers Sue Over Transfers
Replacements had worked for Emanuel's campaign, cops allege
I don;t understand why they hired private atty. FOP won similar grievance for Board Member Hanley when she was dumped from recruit processing and D2 pay to 020 and replaced with another female PO in Unit (123?). Hanley won grievance and was awarded 600 hours of comp time. Pleines was atty.
Joe Patterson, Joe Gorman, great old school bosses. I think you have Patterson wrong here.
As a hard working PO I think any PO that works the security detail just be paid what we all get paid. Our regular salary...Why are they any different...There not out there everyday putting there life's on the line in the ghetto... and FOP should be getting paid less..cuz there not worth SHIT!
Years ago Patterson was an average ( at best) sergeant in OCD> obviously clouted up. Been that way for years now.
Somebody help me out on this one. Didn't Patterson sign his name to another bullshit letter fairly recently?
why cant we all stick together and do nothing!!The best is in numbers... FUCK JERRY AND THE NEWYORK SHITHEADS..That is how they treat the newyork kids NOT HERE BITCH..
To all the JP haters remember this, when you fuck up, get into a questionable off-duty incident or shoot some jagoff who's gonna be there? Not Garry or Al, it will be JP behind the scenes making sure you don't get fucked.
Bet on it.
If you don't know the man keep your tough guy opinion to yourself. I'm a 21 year blue shirt who would go to bat for our Chief of Patrol any day.
He helped me when he didn't have to and one day he might help you.
Joe Patterson, Joe Gorman, great old school bosses. I think you have Patterson wrong here.
8/16/2012 08:10:00 PM
Wrong about what? That he's become a hypocritical jagoff? Hey Joe, did Fran ever tell you that you couldn't have the day off? I doubt it and if he did you probably took off anyway.
Here's the deal with Patterson. He's either become a jagoff boss that forgot how much he got away with as an officer or he's cut his own nuts off and doesn't have the balls to tell McCarthy that the city's refusal to properly staff the department is not a reason to deny time due to those that continue to work under these deplorable conditions.
To: 6:40pm,
It will never work because you have people that are on management that are afraid to lose their spots especially po's that are on days. These stuck up po's believe it's their right to be on days even though they haven't done a thing their entire career. I strongly believe that po's should have at least 8-10yrs on the job before being able to work days. But that's just a dream since this department believes in taking care of people because they are politically connected or they are friends of friends which works just like the mob. I'll take care of you if you take care of mine. So keep on dreaming on your slow down it will never happen.
P.O.'s working in recruit processing do not get D2 pay.
We have a few of Daley's former security detail boys & girls in mass transit. May I just say... What a bunch of crybabies!
JOE PATTERSON -
This goof is STILL employed as a security guard for the Chicago Park District.
He is assigned to the Lakefront section.
The asshole makes $170,000+ as Chief of Patrol as he still keeps his $20 @ hour job at the parks and FUCKS other coppers out of hours.
FUCK HIM ! ! !
Patterson was the police up until he hit 35th street. Now he is building his resume. He is a yes man moving forward, don't get your feelings for the old Patterson confused with the politician Patterson. Remember his brother got jammed up as the police, but the true story behind that has been kept hush, hush. Politician Patterson has some stuff he rather keep quiet Hoping current administration doesn't start asking questions. Not to mention he has no life, how many divorces later lol. So typical, and he looks out now for only his own people you watch close moving forward
XO Capt. M. Ryan in 019 is using this order to fulfill his long frustrated ambition to deny officers any time off. He has been denying out of hand any furlough extensions beyond the 14 day segment and will not listen to any appeal or read any to-from.
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READ THE Department Directives!!!
FURLOUGH SELECTION AND SCHEDULING FOR SWORN MEMBERS
Employee Resource E02-04-01
V. USE OF FURLOUGH TIME
1. Furlough extension
Depending on a member's Day Off Group (DOG), a furlough extension will be:
A. for members in the 4-2 work schedule: to the Regular Day's Off (RDO) on the front and back
of the furlough or furlough segment.
B. for members in the ten hour work schedule or traditional work schedule (6-2, SS, or other):
allowed on either the front or back end of their furloughs to the Sunday prior to the start of the
furlough or the Saturday following the end of the furlough.
IN OTHER WORDS:
The department directive AND your contract says you can extend it !!!
John Northside hit it all on the head in his comments.
Joe is a total gent and is a breed of brass that are nil today.
Char, bless her heart, was a princess. She retired with the love of thousands of coppers.
You young guys should listen to the words of wise retired guys. Most of us retired guys were coppers who ruled the night and new the game some of the brass played. We played back !
I must say, even being retired,80 percent of the CPD brass have no people skills in dealing with their people.
Threats get you no were.
Guys, it will get better, it will change so hang in there. It has too ! Stay as stress free as you can guys, You are still the finest in the nation.
You guys might to move to The District of Corruption and contribute to that asshole Obama's campaign, but hurry, the gravy train is leaving in January!
"More than 21,000 retired federal workers receive lifetime government pensions of $100,000 or more per year, a USA TODAY/Gannett analysis finds.
Retired law enforcement is the most common profession receiving $100,000-plus pensions, including 326 Drug Enforcement Administration agents, 237 IRS investigators and 186 FBI agents...."
http://www.cnbc.com/id/48678353
8/16/2012 05:41:00 AM
Big whoop. Thats not that many people. That's not a ton of money. They are law enforcement. It's a tough job. They paid into it. They deserve it. Period.
Although now retired, the Joe Patterson I know was
a more-than-decent, honorable guy who would go
out of his way to help a fellow copper. As we all
know, the higher up you go in this dept., the more
meddlesome City Hall becomes. Cut the man some
slack, yes, his directive was poorly worded, but how
much control do you think he has in his current
position? How much do you think the last man
who held it had? And the man (or woman) before
him? Wake up people, the Job has always been
subject to the whims of whatever fancied the
short man at Randolph street. We just have an
even shorter man there, who's minus one finger,
and holds all city agencies on an even tighter leash.
Joe Patterson will always have my respect. All this
will pass in time, when the economy turns around.
Stand together, give them only what needs to be
done, nothing more.
Joe is an idiot. He was never a ball of fire. He got promoted under Weis because he was and still is a yes man. He is one of the worst decision makers ever, but don't worry, Georges is with him now,and will be running patrol. He has no clue either, but he talks a good game. Georges is also in the political mix so if you are connected, you are ok. If you challenge him, then we have a problem. Nice going Superintendent. You really need to stop looking at who is politically connected and look at who is qualified, because we are fucked.
Lay off Patterson. He's one of us and a great friend to the blueshirt.. There are much worse evils in this dept right now. What he said is nothing new.. It's the supt and mayors line he has to tote .. If he doesn't say it believe me they will find someone who will.. I would much rather hear it from joe than some pencil pushing geek who worked at 35th his entire career. Joe is good people
8/16/2012 12:09:00 AM
Getting hit the head with a hammer hurts regardless of the person wielding it. And the Patterson in this instance is not your Joe Patterson.
And, to you idiots that want all of us to cut some slack for the Patterson that wrote this memo, fuck you. The idiot could have easily reworded one sentence and it would have satisfied the hall and 35th Street and it would have been minimally palatable for us without insulting us.
I thought exempts were prohibited to work part time jobs as a security guard . Sounds like a cpd rule violation.
READ THE Department Directives!!!
FURLOUGH SELECTION AND SCHEDULING FOR SWORN MEMBERS
Employee Resource E02-04-01
V. USE OF FURLOUGH TIME
1. Furlough extension
Depending on a member's Day Off Group (DOG), a furlough extension will be:
A. for members in the 4-2 work schedule: to the Regular Day's Off (RDO) on the front and back
of the furlough or furlough segment.
B. for members in the ten hour work schedule or traditional work schedule (6-2, SS, or other):
allowed on either the front or back end of their furloughs to the Sunday prior to the start of the
furlough or the Saturday following the end of the furlough.
IN OTHER WORDS:
The department directive AND your contract says you can extend it !!!
8/17/2012 01:03:00 AM
Both were written when the period and segments began on a Thursday and ended on a Wednesday. Periods and segments now begin on a Sunday and end on a Saturday. Directives have not changed to keep pace. Extending in both directions doubles the number of people who are off during those weeks and that, when granted, severely curtails the number of PO's who can take other elective time off.
Or it makes it difficult for our managers to "reward" us with our own time off. But after all we are the department's "greatest resource."
Just take the money on OT and put it in deferred. Put in deferred until it hurts. Drive used cars, live frugally and keep socking away the cash in deferred. Then, the first available day, retire and go have a life.
I now have over 1,400 hours on the books but have to kiss ass to take any of it. And that doesn't count my P-Days (recently denied) and BFD days (also recently denied) which includes carry over days from last year.
One must look at the time on the books as a retirement account to be paid out upon retirement. But there is always the possibility the City can just decide to not pay or to pay in installments. Back in the day a PO lost all time on the books come Jan 1st.
Don't ever underestimate the treachery of the City. We trusted them to always provide health care and neglected to get it in writing in the first contract. We trusted the City to fulfill their pension obligations and that is written down but now the City gas hired high powered law forms with the express purpose of getting out from under those pensions.
Never think the City won't try to fuck us out of everything we have earned. Just consider the way they treat non-connected vendors who have to wait or sue to get their money.
Remember, this place has the tentacles of the extended Daley Crime Family running through all phases of government. Who the hell are we to them? Nothing, we are nothing to them.
IN OTHER WORDS:
The department directive AND your contract says you can extend it !!!
8/17/2012 01:03:00 AM
You have no concept of management rights which is outlined in the contract. Yes, you can extend your furlough, but the department does not have to grant the extension and really does not have to give you a reason. It is their right under management to do as they wish.
Anonymous said...
bravo bravo bravo SCC. Your are fucken awesome and i wish more coppers started doing less activity for these bosses. Thank you for this website and for having somebody who understands how i feel...
8/16/2012 08:30:00 AM
You sir should find a new line of work. You are not doing " activity" for the bosses, but the work that you were hired for, and well compendated for, for the benefit of the citizens of Chicago. I would be willing to bet that you cried and begged to take this job and was grateful for it. Now, everyone can go to hell as you ride around doing nothing? It is a shame that the department cannot fire you.
nonymous said...
Grow the fuck up, this is a job, not a hobby. Nobody's cheating you out of your earned time, you just can't come and go as you please. Yeah we're short, but why should the taxpayers - including ourselves - pay to hire more police just so you can get an extra day off when you don't want to come to work today?
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GO FUCK YOURSELF!!! Your Obviously Not the Police!
8/16/2012 04:28:00
I am the police, have been for a long time and I agree with the first poster and I also say grow the fuck up. I bet you are truely a dog and let your fellow workers on the watch carry your load.
Mike Ryan is the son of Dan Ryan , say no more about his clout from the past, Dan Ryan was a City Engineer but well contacted, ever hear of the Dan Ryan expressway ?
here's an idea....how about...before a person is selected or appointed to a command position, and/or a "sensitive" position, that person undergoes what might be termed a forensic background check, i.e., every family member back to when they were born and to the present, all bank accounts, financial records, credit card statements, real estate records, business records and interests, tax records, marriage, divorce, and family support obligations, familial relationships, disciplinary and lawsuit histories, etc., etc.....not that would "necessarily" disqualify a person from assignment or promotion, but....let's get the info out into the "bright light of transparency".....
Ryan does NOT have a take home car, leaves the work car at work everyday. Ryan's mother is NOT the cousin of Tom Sheehan, you must be thinking of the other Mike Ryan or making shit up. Everyone knows about denying time due coming directly from downtown after the meeting last Thursday, get over it and stopping blaming it all on him. Oh, I am sorry, is he being cold to you, poor baby. Your an idiot for even posting that stupid remark, you must be a woman. Lastly, he is in BOTH stations everyday and is ALWAYS out on the street. The haters posting here are some of the dogs that simply will not work and/or will not follow orders and Ryan WILL NOT tolerate it. The workers love him, the dogs hate him. Once again the simple truth about Mike Ryan. Move on people, go hate someone else today because your never the problem!!!!!
Yours truly
Michael Ryan
yeah, we knew it was only a matter of time until Mike or one of his few brown-nose assholes got on to defend his "honor". Well he has none. He was ridiculously merit promoted way too many times. He looks forward to screwing POs, it's common knowledge. It has nothing to do with hard workers vs dogging it. He's a prick.
He was a do nothing po, footman, etc just ask anyone who knows this jag thru the years.
Bottom line: he can't retire too soon and IF he had ANY honor he would have put in his papers yesterday. He has none, in fact he's probably already thinking up more ways to eff with the troops.
Launch him too.
I have little doubt that this whole idea of restricting time due comes from Rahm. Rahm has told McNutty to implement this and McNutty being the puppet that he is has embraced it.
This is Rahm's way of irritating the shit out of us before he completely bends us over in contract negotiations.Typical divide and conquer move by that slimy asshole.
I am the police, have been for a long time and I agree with the first poster and I also say grow the fuck up. I bet you are truely a dog and let your fellow workers on the watch carry your load.
8/17/2012 12:14:00 PM
check the money box.
always.
You sir should find a new line of work. You are not doing " activity" for the bosses, but the work that you were hired for, and well compendated for, for the benefit of the citizens of Chicago. I would be willing to bet that you cried and begged to take this job and was grateful for it. Now, everyone can go to hell as you ride around doing nothing? It is a shame that the department cannot fire you.
8/17/2012 12:11:00 PM
it's a shame that the west and south sides of this city can't be fired.
stop feeding the vermin.
You have no concept of management rights which is outlined in the contract. Yes, you can extend your furlough, but the department does not have to grant the extension and really does not have to give you a reason. It is their right under management to do as they wish.
8/17/2012 12:06:00 PM
if their wishes were horses, we'd all be eating horseshit.
Anonymous said...
Sounds a lot like the kind of shit the U of C PD would pull. Same shit-different day. The ghost of Doty continues to haunt us as morale is in the shitter and officers continue to look elsewhere for employment. No wonder it's a revolving door with hiring. Can't keep personnel. CON-STAT rules the house as " bosses " ( WALKER-BOOKER- OWENS ) are more concerned with bullshit traffic citation numbers/contact card numbers to make themselves look good in their Friday meeting. Sgts. ( non-union ) being fired-demoted to make room for the chosen golden ones who can do no wrong. Upcoming Sgts. exam ( no one will sign up ) is a joke as we all know the selections have already been made ( wink-wink ). Who would want to take a supervisors position and leave the union protection? How does someone new to the dept. and still on probation get selected for promotion and training assignments ( ET-Defensive Tactics- EVOC etc ) and other qualified senior officers get passed over? Because there are those who, as SCC says, drink the koolaid, can do no wrong and kiss ass to remain the golden chosen ones.( MS, CW, WR, MS, SE ya know who you are). Go get your 10-15 traffic stops/citations/contact cards per shift and your TVB as citizens get robbed in our area while you go to the 02 to process. Ya think we are the CHP? It's all about numbers/stats and making yourself look good. Mission be damned!!! What a joke!!
8/16/2012 11:27:00 AM
Dont forget CC!!!
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
bravo bravo bravo SCC. Your are fucken awesome and i wish more coppers started doing less activity for these bosses. Thank you for this website and for having somebody who understands how i feel...
8/16/2012 08:30:00 AM
You sir should find a new line of work. You are not doing " activity" for the bosses, but the work that you were hired for, and well compendated for, for the benefit of the citizens of Chicago. I would be willing to bet that you cried and begged to take this job and was grateful for it. Now, everyone can go to hell as you ride around doing nothing? It is a shame that the department cannot fire you.
8/17/2012 12:11:00 PM
You, sir, are a delusional mope who is well-qualified to be KING OF THE ASSHATS. Why don't you really do something good for the 'citizens' by staying locked up in your mama's basement until you reach the age of reason--which in your case sounds a loooong way off. Sir.
Anonymous said...
Mike Ryan is the son of Dan Ryan , say no more about his clout from the past, Dan Ryan was a City Engineer but well contacted, ever hear of the Dan Ryan expressway ?
8/17/2012 12:40:00 PM
No he isn't. Mike Ryan's dad was property custodian or similar at 014. There was a family connection to Dan Ryan but not father/son unless Mike Ryan is grandson.
Section 29A.4
Furlough may be extended at the request of an officer with the approval of the Department by the use of any accumulated compensatory time, baby furlough days, personal days and individual furlough days. A furlough extension is defined as the Sunday through Wednesday prior to the start of a furlough or the Thursday through Saturday at the completion of the furlough.
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The above paragraph is the only thing about furlough extensions in the contract. Periods no longer start on Thursdays nor end on Wednesdays thus the days listed as extension days no longer have relavence.
This must be addressed in the next contract. Until then, management could, it seems, deny extensions past the 14 day segment.
We have had it good as far as taking time off for many years. Obviously that is changing. It is obvious the department is going to be operating with lower manpower than in the past. It will be harder to take time off. The 4-2 schedule takes more manpower than the old 6-2. We have 18 more days off a year under the 4-2.
Look for it to get a lot harder to take elective time off. This is nothing new, years ago that is how it was: hard to get time off.
It's a joke how 60 percent of these comments begin with or have somewhere in them "FUCK YOU". I think the same person is writing all of this.
As for the comments "don't do any work for the bosses" last time I looked I thought we became the police to lock up bad guys. In 25 plus years I have never locked up anyone, wrote anyone a ticket or ANOV or even contact carded a person for anyone other than myself and my pride in my work.
We make a fair living and as long as your not some dumb ass who does illegal stuff to get arrests then you should have nothing to worry about.
As for Patterson, I know him well, worked with him and for him (in 007). He was a great policeman and is a good boss. For those of you who say "he don't stand up for you" you must have done something so stupid that your mama probably wouldn't protect you.
Now go ahead and bash me about my comments but at least I sleep well knowing everyday I do my job to the best of my abilities for no one but me.
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