Demotion? Or Lateral?
019, subject of the recent CompStat beatings lost their commander yesterday while he was on furlough.
Word is that he landed somewhere soft as XO, and the acting Commander is a previously Weis-demoted captain/Inspector/XO.
And last week's promotion to Commander of 018 fell through?
Anyone want to explain to the class? Because we're getting confused again.
UPDATE: And what's this rumor about an exempt about to get indicted? For what?
Word is that he landed somewhere soft as XO, and the acting Commander is a previously Weis-demoted captain/Inspector/XO.
And last week's promotion to Commander of 018 fell through?
Anyone want to explain to the class? Because we're getting confused again.
UPDATE: And what's this rumor about an exempt about to get indicted? For what?
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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All I ask is that 019's XO get dumped. Somewhere. Anywhere. Please.
the guy who was a LT in intel and promoted to commander of 018 a week ago spent 4 or 5 days as commander of 018 and then was lateraled to commander of intelligence... yeah, a week as district commander then put right back in intel but as a commander instead of a LT. Dont know him but whatever. As for the 019 move it wasnt a dump. Hes just pulling double duty as commander and XO, I see XO going to the wayside soon enough.
Typical classy, no balls management move. Do it while he's on furlo.
What about xo ryan? What's his status?
Lt Braveheart said "Lock up every swinging dick you see!"
It is neither a demotion or a lateral. IT IS A PROMOTION!! The former 019th district commander now reports under a Chief. That makes him a Deputy Chief, just like the former Commander of the 023rd district who got dumped and is also a Deputy Chief and just like the alderman's brother. WTF? Could I be the only one that thinks this is crazy?
This guy from ZooYork is a total disgrace to our city and our police department. He doesn't have the balls to dump anyone. He should just pack his bags and go home and try to put his family back together so we can put our police department back together.
We heard either in charge of the Training Academy, or working for Debra Kirby. Too Bad they can't throw XO Mike Ryan out on his Ass! There's a "slow down" at work on All Shifts as Asshole Ryan takes this new Bull Shit Time Due order to the enth fucking degree and has denied time off, even to those who have ext. their furlos! Fuck'm!! Explain to the Tiny Dancer and McGofuckyourself why No $$ is being generated by the New Town Hall!
Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, nothing to see here. Canasta is being played on the promenade deck for your enjoyment.
O.T. - FOP Letter
Mike Shields in his letter to the membership regarding the woman who brought allegations against Lodge No. 7 references previously assigned lawyers to the FOP suing police officers. PAUL GEIGER, the FOP's Chief Legal Counsel, has done the same thing. He has brought cases against police officers, that have cost us monies in the FOP Labor Council. This is a FACT. Understanding Shield's argument when coupled with the reality of what has transpired lends credence, why Geiger must go.
Who gives a fuck? They are white shirts and thus I don't give a fuck about them. They certainly don't give a fuck about me when they denied my time due. They can all go fuck themselves.
Explanation:
Kenny is soft as puppy shit. He couldn't control his XO, which has been on a rampage, nit-picking and micro-managing the most trivial of subjects.
He had a PO (JillBilly) in charge of not only the station, but of operations in the district.
He's as week as he appears, and it's no exaggeration when it's said that he (and JillBilly) will NOT BE MISSED.
Da Numbers just dont add Up LoL His phone call was Collect?
BTW Why do we have to suffer MEAHLER at ERPS Just demote him to CAPPY.He hates tyhe Dept and Jersey, the MAyor, reg Cops and thinks he is smarter than anyone but Jesus
Compost / Compost / Compost Say it 3 times fast and you hear McCompost is gone. Murders through the roof. Rahm cannot handle the blood. His bid for higher officer is in McComposts hands! McCompost has to go!
http://www.uptownupdate.com/2012/08/new-police-commander-in-19th-district.html
Emanuel Wants To Revamp Police Disability Rules
City Hall wants to reduce the number of police officers getting disability pay by placing as many of them as possible in “limited-duty” jobs — a move designed to save Chicago’s cash-strapped police pension fund millions of dollars.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/14538408-418/emanuel-wants-to-revamp-police-disability-rules.html
Rumor has it 15 shot in less than 12 hrs. And Mcimstupid is shuffling police like a Vegas card shuffler . When will the games end ??
Okay here is the deal. Clark street and belmont are full of offenders from the westside looking to prey on drunk victims. If you go out there at night you see them in bunches. Kenny knew this was a problem. Instead of addressing it with his 60 tac officers he choose not to ruffle any feathers and kept the tact teams in place. Costing him his job. Vulgaris is now the new commander and he needs to cut 3 tact teams freeing up 30 tact officers and make a clark St detail to push a
the riff raff away. 019 has 60 tactical officers. Half do nothing. The other half leave early. Also adjust there hours. Instead of 1800-0300 have them come in at 2100-530
What happened at Comp-post? Please explain the beating. Being a lowly PO, I don't know anyone who goes to them.
And is it true anyone can go and watch? I suppose you have to leave your id, a thumb print, and a bucal swab?
I can't believe McTastic hasn't been booted back to NY by now. Rahm must really, really, really, hate to admit it when he's made a mistake. I think that guy is a sociopath. He's definitely off-kilter.
Lt Kilroy from 196 was also dumped while on furlough and replaced by a Lt from IAD.
Had heard through the ranks, the promoted Commander came to 018 for two days and said, "nope, this is not for me" went back to the Supt. said thank you I want to go back were I came from and sent another promoted Cmdr. so far, he's hanging on. It's been three days so far.
It's true that Commander JK had a rough time at Compstat a week ago Thursday, but other commanders have had rougher times. I think this is the first wave of "if you don't perform, you're being replaced" scenarios. No one really dislikes JK; he's an attorney and had R & D background. He's still a commander so he didn't get hurt in the pocketbook. In the case of LH in 003, she was removed but we hear there is some sort of investigation going on having nothing to do with crime in 003. Hope it's not true. The acting commanders in 019, EV and 018 BD are fairly well respected by the troops as is GE who went to 003. See a pattern here? As for Lt. DD who was made the actor in 018 last week ... it was HIS CHOICE to go back to Intelligence. Being a district commander isn't for everyone.
Wow saw McCarthy on Wttw Chicago Tonight interview. When asked about compstat problems, he turned around the questioning on the host. He had the host stumbling for words. Say what u want about McCarthy, but he's pretty polished as a speaker. He can feed out alot of b.s.
Who the fuck cares anymore?
What makes you think command changes have to to be "explained" to you? As bad as the leadership problem is these days, it is only made worse by know-it-all coppers who question everything like a six year old.
AND IN OTHER NEWS... said...
Emanuel Wants To Revamp Police Disability Rules
City Hall wants to reduce the number of police officers getting disability pay by placing as many of them as possible in “limited-duty” jobs — a move designed to save Chicago’s cash-strapped police pension fund millions of dollars.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/14538408-418/emanuel-wants-to-revamp-police-disability-rules.html
8/18/2012 04:42:00 AM
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I am all for putting officers back to work as opposed to sucking up disability / pension benefits.
BUT DOES RAHM KNOW . . .
About the Tracy Ladner Rules of Limited Duty? I doubt it.
Perhaps someone from shitty hall should check it out before forcing these people back to work.
I NEVER saw the guy!
No loss here!
By the way, NO NUMBERS either!
Meahler was moved but to a crap job - Demotion
Funny the only Dist. running good right now as far as numbers and morale is 024. Thats because its led by a man who puts his people first, a man who has the self confidence to remain clam and LISTEN to his people. Not a misro managing by bi-polar, balloon head, political suck hole which seems to be the standard of most other exempts. Reminds me of the movie Gladiator the fools run the empire while the good general is punished...
He had a PO (JillBilly) in charge of not only the station, but of operations in the district.
What are you smoking? Oh, forget it, you must be drinking the Kool-Aid too!
Better question, how the hell is Moy still a commander?? Crime is rampant. A tac team with only 4 PO's--can't get ANYONE in the district to work for that sgt. 5 PO's stripped last month, 2 more on the way? Sgts down grading crime?
Leadership that works?
Ryan can be an asshole but he wants you to do your job. He never bothered me when I worked for him, and although we had a few arguments, he never told me no when I needed time or a favor. As much as a bitter prick he can be, there are far worse bosses.
The lt that made commander of 18 went back to Intel as lt he gave up his commander star didn't like all the bullshit
the guy who was a LT in intel and promoted to commander of 018 a week ago spent 4 or 5 days as commander of 018 and then was lateraled to commander of intelligence... yeah, a week as district commander then put right back in intel but as a commander instead of a LT. Dont know him but whatever. As for the 019 move it wasnt a dump. Hes just pulling double duty as commander and XO, I see XO going to the wayside soon enough.
8/18/2012 12:12:00 AM
Not true ... he went back to Intel as a lt. He has small kids and figured he would miss too much of their activities as a Cmdr. So he put his family first.
Bunch of exempts going to get indicted for theft. They have been steeling form taxpayers for years by impersonating a police officer.
Save CPD 's pension
Lt's run District
Sgt runs watch
XO's run areas and get rid of all the exempt commanders
They should get rid of the WORTHLESS 014 Commander!
Pleassse on your way out, take with you the worthless A.B( CAPS Sgt)
Believe me, no one will missed you.
You got lucky this time.
Your clout barely got re-elected (Ray "The Pimp" Colon) by 100 votes.
Next time he will be gone just like you
If Meahler was smart he'd know how dumb he was!
Mcjersey shore better start making some major changes. Evan the assholes on the street have figured out the police are shorthanded. The way the bosses on this job treat people all anyone should do is go to thier jobs and write everyone a case report. Give every caller or hand waver a little piece of paper with an rd#. Only thing anyone cares about anymore are crime stats give everyone a report and watch the bosses have heart attacks trying to explain the crime.
Why does'nt he just call Bea? She made him. Im sure she still has some juice with Da Man. Kenny is a nice guy, but was never even close to being the police. Spent most of his early years in 010 on the desk.
years ago inspectors were called
jo's not xo's
Mayor Emanuel will get my vote and many more working members of cpd if he can require officers on disability pension return to work.
Rahm let's replace all the office boys and girls that carry guns and brag they are the police with officers on disability pension .
That would be a few hundred able bodied office working cowards back in a beat car . These armed office
clerks were hired by the Chicago Police Department to patrol the street , not answer phones and file papers . Come on Rahm you can do it.
COMPSTAT.... the metrics were nobody wins ....
Anyone hear the rumor about Kennedy getting a lateral move as the next Commander of Public Transportation at the request of the CTA Chief Keading. The guys at Public Trans would be getting a prince while the current Commander of Public Trans would become an XO in some southside district.
mealer...what an effin tool....a nerd in uniform, I couldnt stand this stroke in 017.
Adjust Burglary team hours and tact team hours ely vulgaris. If not your job will be on the line as well. You do not need 60 tactical guys and two watch secretaries. Make a clark st. Detail team.
Boy would it be nice to see all the insiders that have been hidden during the last 4 commanders finally work a beat car like the rest of us. Hopefully this Vugaris guy won't continue the unfortunate tradition. Foot guys also have been hidden for many many years.
The Commander was lateraled to XO as a Commander.
Make Sgt Pat C the XO. From all on the 3rd watch it seems that he is the only one that knows what the hell is going on. Hurry back sarge. We miss you !
Anonymous said...
Rumor has it 15 shot in less than 12 hrs. And Mcimstupid is shuffling police like a Vegas card shuffler . When will the games end ??
8/18/2012 04:49:00 AM
Meanwhile back at the 10th District station, X.O.C.W. was playing Three Card Monte with Time Due slips, and people's lives. Everyone feels better now that she is on furlough.
Please don't come back.
watch how nice Jillbilly gets when she's back on the street with all the people she acted so bitchy and condecending to. It will all be an act, a leopard doesn't change it's spots.
-----Who gives a fuck? They are white shirts and thus I don't give a fuck about them. They certainly don't give a fuck about me when they denied my time due. They can all go fuck themselves.
Couldnt have summarized it any better. WHO CARES. JUST PAY ME.
Emanuel Wants To Revamp Police Disability Rules
City Hall wants to reduce the number of police officers getting disability pay by placing as many of them as possible in “limited-duty” jobs — a move designed to save Chicago’s cash-strapped police pension fund millions of dollars.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/14538408-418/emanuel-wants-to-revamp-police-disability-rules.html
Thats interesting, is the mayor aware that the department is currently telling all Limited Duty officers that they have only one year left on Limited Duty and then there will be no more non duty IOD status? How does that work?
Anonymous said...
Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, nothing to see here. Canasta is being played on the promenade deck for your enjoyment.
8/18/2012 12:55:00 AM
funny!
Rumor has it the District Station Supervisor madness is going bye bye...................I wonder if it is because department is going to lose the grievance concerning that.......inquiring minds want to know!
Commander Moy back to work in 20 one week after surgery. HOPE she doesnt yell at the troops like shes good at and pop a stitch....
Crime is rampant in 020? Hahahahahahaha.
Gimme a break! If you think 020 is bad, transfer west or south,,,,we will take you away from your crime in 020! Hahahaha
I love it when Moy returns from meeting, she runs around yellin we need more of something.Than makes sure the beatcar which she wants activity from isnt leaving a minute early. Ya commander ill get you anything you need to make you look good.
Moy's not the issue on the tact team ,it the great Lt D.D. she put down there. he was hated by 2nd watch now the tact team seems to hate him. 70-80 people cant be wrong.
And now for something different.... bomb & arson STILL has two commanders.
20's XO can with alot of bad rumors about her but shes been great to deal with,toooo bad MOY and her cant trade place.
Anonymous said...
Okay here is the deal. Clark street and belmont are full of offenders from the westside looking to prey on drunk victims. If you go out there at night you see them in bunches. Kenny knew this was a problem. Instead of addressing it with his 60 tac officers he choose not to ruffle any feathers and kept the tact teams in place. Costing him his job. Vulgaris is now the new commander and he needs to cut 3 tact teams freeing up 30 tact officers and make a clark St detail to push a
the riff raff away. 019 has 60 tactical officers. Half do nothing. The other half leave early. Also adjust there hours. Instead of 1800-0300 have them come in at 2100-530
8/18/2012 05:29:00 AM
You must be another jealous guy that could never work tact cause of all your crying and doing nothing. Good luck watching Rambo movies in your mom's basement.
mealer is a goofball--- ryan is still pissed he got dumped out of gangs north 20 years ago--- moy is symblematic of the pathetic "boss" that runs this department--- angarone was a blue shirt 20 years before making sgt--- ryan,moy,mealer, whoever, take your pick couldn't wear his jock strap--- kenny mentored hundreds of officers on this job both as a seasoned veteran officer and as a supervisor--- the rest of these so called bosses couldn't be a pimple on his ass....
Anonymous said... Crime is rampant in 020? Hahahahahahaha. Gimme a break! If you think 020 is bad, transfer west or south,,,,we will take you away from your crime in 020! Hahahaha
8/18/2012 04:56:00 PM
Sorry you're stuck in the ghetto but some of us have done our time and for a north side Mayberry district it is bad. When bids open up you can come bitch about shit up north...LOL.
Anonymous said...
Rumor has it the District Station Supervisor madness is going bye bye...................I wonder if it is because department is going to lose the grievance concerning that.......inquiring minds want to know!
8/18/2012 04:31:00 PM
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Why? They have a PO acting as desk sgt for no pay upgrade. The DSS, Lt. or Sgt. sit in the WC office and do the same as the old Captains did. The only problem with the setup is that the new DSS isn't competent as a WC.
It was a stupid change but why would they change it back?
Hopefully the new commander of 19 will put a muzzle or leash on XO r. This man is out of control for years upon years and no one does anything about him, disgrace, ask anyone from the old Belmont or the 23rd officers who now work for him. He has little man syndrome and drives around in circles harassing everyone as hes a street lieutenant which he is not or expected to. Doesnt the XO position have complete different responsibilities other than make self initiated traffic stops and berating both good and lazy police officers as they are the same? Why doesn't he trade his construction outfit boot combo for a blue shirt since he still wants to play police when convenient for him? Or how about ensuring making 3rd watch lieutenant work as the desk sergeant or station supervisor and place the current female sgt where she belongs on to the street..., after all isn't he placed with this responsibility to enforce general orders? But white shirts never bother other white shirts or connected folks but only give constant headaches to only the ones in beat cars responding to radio assignments. Yell and keep harassing and be the epitome of micro managing, you are truly a sad, sad man. After all who would drive around the district to calls on his day off in his personal car with his wife in tow. PATHETIC
Ya commander ill get you anything you need to make you look good.
8/18/2012 04:56:00 PM
a brave plastic surgeon.
Kennedy to mass transit, Graeber to 18 and Klich to Cmdr 001
Mayor Emanuel will get my vote and many more working members of cpd if he can require officers on disability pension return to work.
Rahm let's replace all the office boys and girls that carry guns and brag they are the police with officers on disability pension .
That would be a few hundred able bodied office working cowards back in a beat car . These armed office
clerks were hired by the Chicago Police Department to patrol the street , not answer phones and file papers . Come on Rahm you can do it.
8/18/2012 11:17:00 AM
i'm sure he'll get right on that, just as soon as you pull your head out of his ass.
They should get rid of the WORTHLESS 014 Commander!
Pleassse on your way out, take with you the worthless A.B( CAPS Sgt)
Believe me, no one will missed you.
You got lucky this time.
Your clout barely got re-elected (Ray "The Pimp" Colon) by 100 votes.
Next time he will be gone just like you
8/18/2012 09:17:00 AM
Rey, not Ray.
Hey 11:17 am. You must not have gotten the memo that came out about Ten to Fifteen years ago.
WE ARE ALL ARMED OFFICE CLERKS.
Nobody out there is rounding up real bad guys on a regular basis.
Nobody.
Those guys all retired over the last five years or so.
Now go play quick draw in the mirror and let the rest of us finish our coffee before we have to wade through the bull shit yet again for another night.
Stay in good health my friend, because when you retire from this job you are going to have to get another one.
The soc sec you earned is chopped by 60 percent because you are a government worker, unless you paid in for over 20 plus years. In that case you would get a couple percent more for each year.
Rahm is working hard to take more pension money away.
Both Dem and Rep are trying to come up with a plan to cut the medicare you will get when old enough.
You will be taxed up the ass to pay for politicians mistakes or out and out Theft (daley).
So go out there and knock em dead hot shot and keep thinking it's you that is carrying the load.
I think he landed in Kirby's office.
Anonymous said...
What makes you think command changes have to to be "explained" to you? As bad as the leadership problem is these days, it is only made worse by know-it-all coppers who question everything like a six year old.
8/18/2012 07:29:00 AM
...said the guy who was raised in the People's Temple by Jim Jones....
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, nothing to see here. Canasta is being played on the promenade deck for your enjoyment.
8/18/2012 12:55:00 AM
funny!
8/18/2012 03:31:00 PM
Agreed.
Except it's more like shuffleboard with grenades.
Anonymous said...
Commander Moy back to work in 20 one week after surgery. HOPE she doesnt yell at the troops like shes good at and pop a stitch....
8/18/2012 04:43:00 PM
What'd she have, a lobotomy?
DD didn't want 018 after 4 days as Cmdr. He went back to Intelligence as a Lt. Now that's heavy.
make a clark St detail to push a
the riff raff away. 019 has 60 tactical officers. Half do nothing. The other half leave early. Also adjust there hours. Instead of 1800-0300 have them come in at 2100-530
Kenny put in a Clark St detail that did nothing. Just like the beat cars. "Is there a tact team that can take this arrest?" Fucking pansy in 019. You work that area; clean it up. Otherwise shut up. Until now no one bitch about your do-nothing ass.
Ryan is disliked in Belmont. It's that simple. There's no place HQ can send this guy? Mike, what were you like as a patrolmen? Were you the working copper you demand from the P.Os under you? If you caught a P.O. working out for the last hour of his tour what sort of disciplinary measures would you take against them? Lastly, if U want T/D in Belmont, catch Mike when he brings his gym bag in for the 3rd time that tour. He's in way too good of a mood to turn it down.
Anonymous said...
Emanuel Wants To Revamp Police Disability Rules
City Hall wants to reduce the number of police officers getting disability pay by placing as many of them as possible in “limited-duty” jobs — a move designed to save Chicago’s cash-strapped police pension fund millions of dollars.
http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/14538408-418/emanuel-wants-to-revamp-police-disability-rules.html
Thats interesting, is the mayor aware that the department is currently telling all Limited Duty officers that they have only one year left on Limited Duty and then there will be no more non duty IOD status? How does that work?
8/18/2012 03:13:00 PM
It works however the City wants it to work. IOD limited is in the contract. Non IOD limited duty is not in the contract. All Cities who have sued over non-IOD limited duty have lost. It is basically 12 months medical, one year basic disability pension for each 4 years of service, then adios. The department is under no obligation to put anyone to work who is non-IOD Limited duty except clout heavy connected individuals. FOP and City were negotiating at one point to guarantee a number of non-IOD spots but once contract goes to arbitration that talk stops.
It is in everyone's best interest to buy the disability insurance when it is offered. I kept it until I had 20 years on, then dropped it. It guarantees 60% of pay. Much better than nothing. It isn't additive, if you get something from the department or pension board it doesn't add 60% to that. It brings income up to 60%. When all other department sources dry up they still get you to 60%.
Anonymous said...
If Meahler was smart he'd know how dumb he was!
8/18/2012 09:25:00 AM
The Dunning-Kruger effect.....google it
How does this demotion or lateral shit work?
I am a PO, if I lateral someplace am I still a PO or do I get anointed something special? Do I still have to be behind the line of scrimmage to pull off a lateral or else draw a penalty flag?
I have lateraled to 5 different districts and one unit and I am still a PO. How did I get that fuck job with no extra money along the way?
This lateral shit is too confusing. I need to go find some contact cards for tomorrow and pre-fill out a couple of books of parkers and a book of movers. Got to keep up the activity you know, so I won't get demoted. Hey, can I get any more demoted after 27 years than still having PO before my name?
Jeez, I could have been someone important, I'm smart, not dumb but smart.
Anonymous said...
Make Sgt Pat C the XO. From all on the 3rd watch it seems that he is the only one that knows what the hell is going on. Hurry back sarge. We miss you !
8/18/2012 01:37:00 PM
This guy is THEE best boss I've ever worked for. Fantastic guy.
Mass Exodus of Sgts from 2nd Watch in 011!!!
Wow 011 has lost another great sgt SS to 017, last week we lost NH to 012. Rumor has it more sgts if not all on 2nd watch are looking to leave.
Gee, could it be the 2nd watch Station Supervisor is responsible for chasing all the Sgts away?
Wait and see when bids open up for 9161's to leave.
011 used to be a great place to work with great watch commanders and lt's who would back you up and not stab you in the back..
Never thought that I would see the day when it would get so bad, epecially on 2nd watch.
mb
Anonymous said...
Wow saw McCarthy on Wttw Chicago Tonight interview. When asked about compstat problems, he turned around the questioning on the host. He had the host stumbling for words. Say what u want about McCarthy, but he's pretty polished as a speaker. He can feed out alot of b.s.
8/18/2012 06:17:00 AM
Saw the interview and it's summed up:
If ya can't dazzle 'em with your intellect, then baffle 'em with your bullshit!!!!
Why does'nt he just call Bea? She made him. Im sure she still has some juice with Da Man. Kenny is a nice guy, but was never even close to being the police. Spent most of his early years in 010 on the desk.
8/18/2012 11:00:00 AM
Hey, asshole, get your facts straight. Kenny was a hard-working, smart copper in his days in 010. Never shied away from jobs, knew his shit and did it well. Guess who made the first arrest in the city EVER for a hate crime? Kenny and his partner, that's who. Made the case, spelled out the facts and got charges approved. Jag off got 15 years. So fuck you and the horse you rode in on. He may have been desk relief at times, but he was ALWAYS a working copper.
If you still care or trust anyone in this backstabbing popularity contest i feel sorry for you. 5 more years Im outta here. over 20 years ago old timers then said "This job aint what it used to be. But at least the benefits and pension are still good." Now old timers say the same thing except we cant even believe the benefits and pension are gonna be there. Everythiing has eroded away morale and commradere gone. Every area, district, and watch being constantly torn apart by vulturous boosses, politicians, and the media looking for one last scrap of meat to feed their overbloated ego's. We have been dead for years and ripped to shreds for years. We are doomed to be the like chum thrown overboard a dingy in the shark infested water of chicago poltics. Sacrificed like pawns for the glory of the few that hold power in the chess game called life. Where every move is planned in ahead to advance an agenda to give glory to the puppet master.
On a better note 3 dead 22 shot in less then 24 hours.
Moy is incompetent and a nut-case.
Commander Moy back to work in 20 one week after surgery. HOPE she doesnt yell at the troops like shes good at and pop a stitch....
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I have seen her on the street...you could put her back as a patrolman you would never know that goofs a cmdr!
Re: Mayor Emanuel will get my vote and many more working members of cpd if he can require officers on disability pension return to work.
Rahm let's replace all the office boys and girls that carry guns and brag they are the police with officers on disability pension .
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I'm sorry but I am on duty disability and I am neither taking any lavish vacations nor working at all. You see, I wake up never knowing what to expect as I log roll myself off the bed. I never know if I will wake up feeling like a bus backed over me or a truck! Some of us can not perform even a light duty position. I can not speak for others but I can tell you that neither my neurologist nor the pension board doctor would risk his career to sign an affidavit for me stating that I am unable to perform even a light duty job. I can assure you that you would not want to be standing on the range next to me if they want me to try to qualify because the dizziness and nausea generally prevents me from even leaning forward to scramble eggs. That's what neurological damage and multiple surgeries does to you so I hope you do not find yourself in this position because I too was once a productive member of this department and never thought that I would wind up like this! Be careful Officer of your quick judgement of all us!
"Who gives a fuck?"
About Patrol? Nobody.
"And now for something different.... bomb & arson STILL has two commanders."
What? One commands the "Bomb" portion and the other commands the "Arson" portion.
They're looking for someone to command the "&".
Why doesn't he trade his construction outfit boot combo for a blue shirt since he still wants to play police when convenient for him?
"Construction outfit boot combo", Freddy Mercury mustache, Halsted street...Hmmmm.
Anonymous said...
What happened at Comp-post? Please explain the beating. Being a lowly PO, I don't know anyone who goes to them.
And is it true anyone can go and watch? I suppose you have to leave your id, a thumb print, and a bucal swab?
8/18/2012 05:32:00 AM
Anyone can go. It starts at 0900, every Thursday (unless one of the 2 idiots is out of town). It last exactly 2 hours, no longer. You just sit in the audience and watch the public flogging. You can also read, verbatim, the whole thing on CLEAR, under the Bureau of Crime Strategy. They are 2 weeks behind, though.
John Kenny....the real police?? Because he made the first hate crime arrest?? Are you fucking goofy? This guy is like Columbo, has no clue what is going on... Totally lacks people skills and is soft as puppy shit. Ask him whats going on and he replies not a thing.
Commander Moy?---- have to bet BS . Remember in 95 or so when she was a dick in 4--- useless. Went to a CAPS and was scared shitlless. She is a commander?
Ryan is a 19 th ward hack. Ask those about his relative 30 years ago that used to take " care' of the stations. I remember the clout from 024-020 and 019-- do not know if the old guy is still alive. but that is the way it is.
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Anonymous said...
Make Sgt Pat C the XO. From all on the 3rd watch it seems that he is the only one that knows what the hell is going on. Hurry back sarge. We miss you !
8/18/2012 01:37:00 PM
This guy is THEE best boss I've ever worked for. Fantastic guy.
8/18/2012 08:53:00 PM
What kind of drugs are you on? You are really scary.
I don't know a lot but I know 19 is getting a boss that cares about his officers in Voulgaris. I worked for him in TRU and 10 he will do what ever he can for you. My question is will he beable to move Ryan or Stasch? Or will he have to eat them both.
Anonymous said...
And now for something different.... bomb & arson STILL has two commanders.
8/18/2012 05:14:00 PM
It makes perfect sense...one commander for "bomb" and the other commander for "arson".
Cmdr Kenny wasnt the strongest leader, partially because he was too kind, yet what he lacked in leadership he made up many times over with his intelligence. the xo seems power hungry, and uber pissed he will never be a Cmdr. The tact teams make many solid arrests... Burglaries, robbery...and number fillers. They also seem to take most arrests watch personnel dont want to handle. Six teams? Maybe they should keep them? the district is large. Or could get by with just 4 or 3 larger teams. The 023 front office were dogs, at least the 019 front Office trys to make it run, with huge resistance from there predecessors. That being said, they are 75 times better than the our old crew... Minus the Bosnian, she seems useless. Fyi, they pulled 15 Sgt from 019 and now have one working (if that) on mindnights. Look forward to retiring.
Worked for Sgt P.C. On the sat team a few years back and no doubt he is the best guy I have ever worked for. I should say worked with because he was always there with us.
"Anonymous said...
Mass Exodus of Sgts from 2nd Watch in 011!!!
Wow 011 has lost another great sgt SS to 017, last week we lost NH to 012. Rumor has it more sgts if not all on 2nd watch are looking to leave. ..."
..and two Sergeants leaving 010 for 017 and 020 thanks in part to micromanager eXtraOrdinaire Cynthia White.
Be careful what you wish for guys. CW, we are praying will retire in November.
And have a bless-ed day.
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Anonymous said...
Wow saw McCarthy on Wttw Chicago Tonight interview. When asked about compstat problems, he turned around the questioning on the host. He had the host stumbling for words. Say what u want about McCarthy, but he's pretty polished as a speaker. He can feed out alot of b.s.
8/18/2012 06:17:00 AM
Saw the interview and it's summed up:
If ya can't dazzle 'em with your intellect, then baffle 'em with your bullshit!!!!
8/18/2012 09:07:00 PM
That's just what we need, a superintendent who is so good at turning the tables on reporters with his slick NYPD bullshit that he leaves reporters temporarily struck dumb and mumbling in tongues.
That somehow is better than a tough experienced street cop who says things in public about how he has to deal with the savages every day.
What could be slicker than blaming the ills of the city on white cops and the pilgrims. McDrunkard has them looking at each other and mumbling "what did he just say?"
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't he trade his construction outfit boot combo for a blue shirt since he still wants to play police when convenient for him?
"Construction outfit boot combo", Freddy Mercury mustache, Halsted street...Hmmmm.
8/18/2012 11:34:00 PM
Goes to Cubs games and sings along with Y-M-C-A a little too enthusiastically. Seen on Clark St with his shirt unbuttoned to his waist and a red handkerchief sticking out of his back pocket.
Do you think that maybe........
You can believe someone would turn down a command promotion after excepting it , usually when you except it you have a clue what its about, or you can believe its a story to save face!
Sounds sweet , not buying it
The story behind the 018 switch appears more likely the powers that be wanted someone more experienced,
Rather than mc c' s choice
Either way, thank you wise decision
I don't know a lot but I know 19 is getting a boss that cares about his officers in Voulgaris. I worked for him in TRU and 10 he will do what ever he can for you. My question is will he beable to move Ryan or Stasch? Or will he have to eat them both.
Voulgaris is top shelf. I've worked years ago with Ryan and Stasch. Ryan was a bit of a stubborn ass back in the day, Stasch is good guy and 019 is lucky to have him as their tact Lt. I suspect Ryan might decide to retire soon, he has the time in his rank and I believe he has the age too. I don't see 35th st. ever handing him a gold star, and he might see that handwriting on the wall as well.
That would be a few hundred able bodied office working cowards back in a beat car . These armed office
clerks were hired by the Chicago Police Department to patrol the street , not answer phones and file papers .
BUT WE HAVE FAMILIES!IT'S DANGEROUS OUT THERE. BESIDES, I HAVE TO BE HOME EARLY FOR LITTLE BILLY'S T-BALL GAME.
City Hall wants to reduce the number of police officers getting disability pay by placing as many of them as possible in “limited-duty” jobs — a move designed to save Chicago’s cash-strapped police pension fund millions of dollars.
Then stop having the city doctors classify them as such. Way too many coppers are getting duty disability for injuries that if given time, will heal. You may not be 100% but you can still function.
Instead of placing these people on Duty Disability, have them work at call back or the front office.
As I understand it, anyone on duty disability has to be re-examined by a city doctor every 1 to 2 years. You can't tell me that in all that time, some, not all, have not improved to the point that they could be classified as LIMITED DUTY?
Who is the arrogant POS Sgt. who let the lawyers for hospital on Montrose and Rockwell run the show last week because a goof from the psych ward was on the bridge after escaping from the ward ? It was like a war zone and nothing in the media about it. Lawsuits ???? He was from 019 and and was the Greek AH someone from swat told me. He confiscated cameras at the lawyers orders and kept this charade for 3 hours holding fire and police.
20yrs on this job and have never seen more incompetence by upper rank sice Weis and McCarthy have been running the department and perhaps not at fault of their own. It's so out of control that our brass for the first time ever in my career have been playing musical chairs on a weekly and monthly basis. One can read all the books they want on crime fighting and management but if you never worked the street as a real police officer and you know what I mean by real....one cannot run a department and curb crime with success because one doesn't really understand it and know how to address it. How can they lead when they can't get it straightened out at the top. Good luck to the new recruits, your going to need it.
The xo's have no choice on the time due situation, it comes from downtown and is being monitored very closely. They have taken discretion away from bosses at district level, it's happening in every district. Downtown is micro-managing ton the nth degree.
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John Kenny....the real police?? Because he made the first hate crime arrest?? Are you fucking goofy? This guy is like Columbo, has no clue what is going on... Totally lacks people skills and is soft as puppy shit. Ask him whats going on and he replies not a thing.
8/18/2012 11:49:00 PM
Very sharp analogy ... saying "this guy is like Columbo, has no clue what is going on." Did you ever watch Columbo? The whole premise was that he gave the appearance of not knowing what was going on when in reality, he knew exactly what was going on. Sort of like John Kenny. What did Kenny do, dump you from spot where you did absolutely nothing before? Go back to your mother's basement, pop in a Star Trek video and stay the fuck off of the blog, you moron.
Hey, asshole, get your facts straight. Kenny was a hard-working, smart copper in his days in 010. Never shied away from jobs, knew his shit and did it well. Guess who made the first arrest in the city EVER for a hate crime? Kenny and his partner, that's who. Made the case, spelled out the facts and got charges approved. Jag off got 15 years. So fuck you and the horse you rode in on. He may have been desk relief at times, but he was ALWAYS a working copper.
Big, fucking deal.
You guys in do nothing retirement district019 should be so lucky that your getting vulgaris he was co of tru got dumped from there by Jfled then we were fortunate enough to get him in 010 Ogden he takes care of everyone! He especially loves the workers. Eli has open door policy and is big in training if you do dept related training he will code 49 you at times for a day or two.He calls everyone by their first name
Isnt' that the whole point of being a commander. to lead and to be strong. I worked for a lot of commanders who were kind,but they knew how to run a district and lead their men and women.I remember a boss who said, "Never mistake my kindness for weakness."
Judge, Kenny by the people he brought in and surrounded himself with. His CAPS Sgt. was useless as was her staff and lets not forget his Tact Lt. or his office staff. The had no idea how run an office or treat people. Why do you think the retired District Manager keeps coming around to help them out? His staff has him on speed dial. Isn't it his job to keep the xo in check? Anytime there was any conflict he would run and hide in his office with a can of popcorn and hope it would go away. He 1 staff meeting with his supervisors in th 4 years he was in 019. He might be a good guy,but not a good leader.
From what I've seen,a new commander had the option to bring in a new CAPS Sgt, TACT Lt. and district secretary.
I'm sorry but I am on duty disability and I am neither taking any lavish vacations nor working at all. You see, I wake up never knowing what to expect as I log roll myself off the bed. I never know if I will wake up feeling like a bus backed over me or a truck! Some of us can not perform even a light duty position. I can not speak for others but I can tell you that neither my neurologist nor the pension board doctor would risk his career to sign an affidavit for me stating that I am unable to perform even a light duty job. I can assure you that you would not want to be standing on the range next to me if they want me to try to qualify because the dizziness and nausea generally prevents me from even leaning forward to scramble eggs. That's what neurological damage and multiple surgeries does to you so I hope you do not find yourself in this position because I too was once a productive member of this department and never thought that I would wind up like this! Be careful Officer of your quick judgement of all us!
8/18/2012 10:17:00 PM Office I will pray for you and hope u get well God Bless You.
Meanwhile back at the 10th District station, X.O.C.W. was playing Three Card Monte with Time Due slips, and people's lives. Everyone feels better now that she is on furlough.
Please don't come back--------------------------------------------
What a waste of xo. Instead of addressing p.o.'s of crime and cpd operations, all she does is look at a&a sheets, time due slips, furlough sheets, and what kind shoes p.o.'s wear.
Kenny put in a Clark St detail that did nothing. Just like the beat cars. "Is there a tact team that can take this arrest?" Fucking pansy in 019. You work that area; clean it up. Otherwise shut up. Until now no one bitch about your do-nothing ass.
8/18/2012 08:14:00 PM
Ya Gio your such a go getter,a real hero, and quit parking in the Handicap spot in garage, you can't walk like everyone else, fucking dog
Okay here is the deal. Clark street and belmont are full of offenders from the westside looking to prey on drunk victims. If you go out there at night you see them in bunches. Kenny knew this was a problem. Instead of addressing it with his 60 tac officers he choose not to ruffle any feathers and kept the tact teams in place. Costing him his job. Vulgaris is now the new commander and he needs to cut 3 tact teams freeing up 30 tact officers and make a clark St detail to push a
the riff raff away. 019 has 60 tactical officers. Half do nothing. The other half leave early. Also adjust there hours. Instead of 1800-0300 have them come in at 2100-530
8/18/2012 05:29:00 AM
I have not been on a tact team in 10 years and I never worked the Northside. But people like you who post these stupid ass comments are an embarrassment. Mind your own damn business and do your job. It sounds like you work in this area, then lock some of these offenders up yourself. You sound like a jealous teenage girl!
JK was a decent po back in his marquette days. he may have worked the desk, but better him than me. he never refused a job and appeared smart as F'. And better still, as a boss, he'd never intentionally jam you up...
8/18/2012 05:29:00 AM
I have not been on a tact team in 10 years and I never worked the Northside. But people like you who post these stupid ass comments are an embarrassment. Mind your own damn business and do your job. It sounds like you work in this area, then lock some of these offenders up yourself. You sound like a jealous teenage girl!
8/19/2012 01:13:00 PM
Not the original poster, but:
Im not gonna come out here and throw a bunch of insults around, but your wrong. It is every blue shirts business what the tact teams do. They are taken out of the manpower pool of officers to do some work, its their choice. When they dont do the very things they are supposed to then it adds an extra burden on the beat officers (of which there are less because people left for teams) because it means more crime on the beats, more paperwork, denied lunches, checking off pushed back later and later because of backlogs, denied time due. I have no problem if someone wants to throw on some jeans and take a position that is supposed to be aggressive police work (not the smartest thing to be doing in this environment but whatever, once again its their choice). Tact teams have had their perks, and still do. The price for those perks are to do the job that they are supposed to do.. If we have come to a time where even the tact teams dont want to make arrestes or concentrate on specific problems in the district to support the beat officers, than maybe its time to send everybody back to the beat cars (a little extreme)..
Meanwhile back at the 10th District station, X.O.C.W. was playing Three Card Monte with Time Due slips, and people's lives. Everyone feels better now that she is on furlough.
Please don't come back--------------------------------------------
What a waste of xo. Instead of addressing p.o.'s of crime and cpd operations, all she does is look at a&a sheets, time due slips, furlough sheets, and what kind shoes p.o.'s wear.
8/19/2012 11:46:00 AM
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Those who don't know how to do the job, well, they tend to micromanage the paperwork. She is a perfect example.
Anonymous said...
Who is the arrogant POS Sgt. who let the lawyers for hospital on Montrose and Rockwell run the show last week because a goof from the psych ward was on the bridge after escaping from the ward ? It was like a war zone and nothing in the media about it. Lawsuits ???? He was from 019 and and was the Greek AH someone from swat told me. He confiscated cameras at the lawyers orders and kept this charade for 3 hours holding fire and police.
8/19/2012 09:15:00 AM
It's the same Sgt. A.H. who is now running around telling EVERYONE that "his guy," Acting Cmdr. E.V. is now in the driver's seat and that he (A.H.) can get anything he wants. And ... he can get YOU anything you want. He's the new "king maker" in 019. Good luck and put on your seat belts. It's about to get bumpy in 019.
"Then stop having the city doctors classify them as such. Way too many coppers are getting duty disability for injuries that if given time, will heal. You may not be 100% but you can still function.
Instead of placing these people on Duty Disability, have them work at call back or the front office.
As I understand it, anyone on duty disability has to be re-examined by a city doctor every 1 to 2 years. You can't tell me that in all that time, some, not all, have not improved to the point that they could be classified as LIMITED DUTY?"
Didnt realize had physicians masquerding as the Police. Theres 347 Police Officers currently on duty disabilit, out of 11,000 don't know how that constitutes alot. Many of those Officers asked to worked limited duty which the department stated there were no postions available. Forcing them to apply for duty disability which you can only do after you use up all your medical time, all comp time& then you are in a no pay status for @ least 6months waitng to appear before the board. Your medical insurance has to be paid out of pocket while waing for your hearing date. There's no guarantee you will be approved so if not, you either quit or if you have enough time retire ro try to get back. So Braintrust perhaps you should learn the facts before you shoot your mouth off,DUMMY.
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Okay here is the deal. Clark street and belmont are full of offenders from the westside looking to prey on drunk victims. If you go out there at night you see them in bunches. Kenny knew this was a problem. Instead of addressing it with his 60 tac officers he choose not to ruffle any feathers and kept the tact teams in place. Costing him his job. Vulgaris is now the new commander and he needs to cut 3 tact teams freeing up 30 tact officers and make a clark St detail to push a
the riff raff away. 019 has 60 tactical officers. Half do nothing. The other half leave early. Also adjust there hours. Instead of 1800-0300 have them come in at 2100-530
8/18/2012 05:29:00 AM
Vulgaris doesn't know shit, let alone how to read an Order detailing investigations and what units are responsible for investigating what. His response is just do it because he said so. Moron.
when some of the best and brightest turn down, refuse, or not considered for a promotion, what does that say about the current "leadership", and does that leave the organization with second and third tier people in command positions (political animals, ego boosters, inexperienced folks whose lives are defined by the title in front of their names)....kind of like American politics
Anonymous said...
Okay here is the deal. Clark street and belmont are full of offenders from the westside looking to prey on drunk victims. If you go out there at night you see them in bunches. Kenny knew this was a problem. Instead of addressing it with his 60 tac officers he choose not to ruffle any feathers and kept the tact teams in place. Costing him his job. Vulgaris is now the new commander and he needs to cut 3 tact teams freeing up 30 tact officers and make a clark St detail to push a
the riff raff away. 019 has 60 tactical officers. Half do nothing. The other half leave early. Also adjust there hours. Instead of 1800-0300 have them come in at 2100-530
8/18/2012 05:29:00 AM
Hmmm, half do nothing, the other half leave early, is that like a broken watch that is right twice a day? What about the third half? I am sure that the new commander will run to the SCC blog to read what he should do with the tact teams. I check SCC each morning and night to help determine which hand I will use to wipe with.
I sure am glad you are there to give advice. Free advice is worth at least double what you pay for it.
Had the good fortune to work for John Kenny when he was a lieutenant on 3rd watch in the 010 district. He was smart and ALWAYS backed the working police.
Cindy P
Don't trust Moy's xo - she's a lying conniver who will be nice to your face but stab you in the back-just like Lucy! Geez Lucy - EOC beefs, grievances from po's and supervisors and how many have been fired under your leadership?
Not to mention she's been absolutely brutal to civilian CAPS volunteers from day one? People who aren't even paid to take her crap?
Hey - and how about the CR for not securing your guns when your house got burglarized after you left the bathroom window open? Oh- yeah-you've got enough cloutso you don't have to follow the same rules as the rest of us.
Asshat!
Back to work one week after surgery? Did they try to attach a dick so she could be a bigger one?
Anonymous said...
Had the good fortune to work for John Kenny when he was a lieutenant on 3rd watch in the 010 district. He was smart and ALWAYS backed the working police.
Cindy P
8/20/2012 07:51:00 PM
brown nose
cut tact teams in every district
beef up all three watches
let dss pick problem areas on his watch and assign 1 or 2 plain clothes officers from the watch
tac , comes late , long roll calls , long breakfast or lunch,make a bs arrest and duck early
xo , dc don't know what's going on
dc busy hiding pets in front office
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Who is the arrogant POS Sgt. who let the lawyers for hospital on Montrose and Rockwell run the show last week because a goof from the psych ward was on the bridge after escaping from the ward ? It was like a war zone and nothing in the media about it. Lawsuits ???? He was from 019 and and was the Greek AH someone from swat told me. He confiscated cameras at the lawyers orders and kept this charade for 3 hours holding fire and police.
8/19/2012 09:15:00 AM
It's the same Sgt. A.H. who is now running around telling EVERYONE that "his guy," Acting Cmdr. E.V. is now in the driver's seat and that he (A.H.) can get anything he wants. And ... he can get YOU anything you want. He's the new "king maker" in 019. Good luck and put on your seat belts. It's about to get bumpy in 019.
8/19/2012 10:47:00 PM
Bumpy? How? No more discounts at Starbucks or Salt & Pepper? The place is Shangri-La. Don't believe it, go work a few tours in 007 or 005 or 011. I used to work TARA and the ghetto districts is where I would go with my seniority. Most people who never had to work the ghetto would be kissing the earth in 019 if they ever had to go work in 007 even for one tour.
In fact, I think the north side police ought to do exactly that to put their working lives in some sort of correct perspective. Get detailed to a ghetto district for a month and then go back. You might find that the petty shit doesn't bother you as much.
Bumpy? How? No more discounts at Starbucks or Salt & Pepper? The place is Shangri-La. Don't believe it, go work a few tours in 007 or 005 or 011. I used to work TARA and the ghetto districts is where I would go with my seniority. Most people who never had to work the ghetto would be kissing the earth in 019 if they ever had to go work in 007 even for one tour.
In fact, I think the north side police ought to do exactly that to put their working lives in some sort of correct perspective. Get detailed to a ghetto district for a month and then go back. You might find that the petty shit doesn't bother you as much.
8/21/2012 11:13:00 PM
A lot of coppers in 019 DID work in the ghetto and came up north to get away from all that bullshit. And we get tired of hearing how if you're not a "ghetto cop" you're not the "real police." It's as dangerous to be a cop in 19 as it is anywhere else. Ask Rick Francis family. I worked in 015 and 011. I don't have to prove anything to you or anyone else. So ... go fuck yourself.
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