Promotion Lawsuit
This story started appearing on WBBM-AM 780 earlier yesterday. The only print version however seem to be in the Southtown Star, a Sun Times paper:
- Two Chicago Police officers are suing the city and Chicago police Supt. Garry McCarthy’s office, claiming a paperwork error has unfairly kept them from being promoted to the rank of sergeant.
Kenneth D. Fowler and Jarrod L. Smith filed the suit Monday in Cook County Circuit Court. Both claim they were among the top 200 scorers among thousands of test-takers when the city last offered the police sergeants exam in 2006, according to the suit.
They had been scheduled to take a five-week training class required to assume the rank of sergeant starting Monday, they claim. But neither is allowed to attend because they claim the city’s Human Relations Department lost their college transcripts, and refused to re-schedule them to take the class after they hand-delivered the documents Friday.
Again, Ladner is incompetent and going to cost Rahm money. The Department has too often had to amend class lists for mistakes, errors and omissions. This is no different.
And the Sun Times Group is once again stealing stories from the blog - that's twice yesterday. You're welcome.
Labels: promotions
posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
63 Comments:
since ur name has gone public safe to say KF from 012; great officer; great person; and am sure will be a great SGT.
Well we lost your transcripts ha-hah sad day for you. Guess we'll just have to slide these to clouted ones in your place.
It's sickening.
"And the Sun Times Group is once again stealing stories from the blog - that's twice yesterday. You're welcome."
It's not "stealing", it's that wire service-mentality.
They don't do any investigative reporting, they just take stories off the wire & hope for a "Chicago Connection," because they think people are too stupid to appreciate news unless there's a "Chicago Connection."
rb
They are going to steal a third one shortly. It concerns the interpretative anaylsis of police pension board trustee ballot placement. A few of the candidates did not have their petitions notorized prior to 9:00 am and were treated to free notary service by the pension fund in order to be eligible to be placed in a ballot lottery. This cannot take place because the pension fund cannot also act as an extension of their individual campaigns. The favorite sons were treated specially, but the class of persons were all supposed to be equal.
It's going to be interesting.
Is the Illinois Comptroller around?
But neither is allowed to attend because they claim the city’s Human Relations Department lost their college transcripts . . .
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Human Relations Department or Human Resource ?
Wow . .
morons working for the Sun Times
When I was close to being promoted, I got a call from someone in personnel (I think) who said he was going down the list, making sure we all had our transcripts in. Gawne, maybe?
Anyway, that was the decent way to do things. I guess decency has also left the building, along with Elvis.
Ladner & CO toooo busy with Hamilton Masters KB Tactical Barbies Leave of Absence Extensions for
Crook County
Lay off Ladner she runs a tight ship having been in the Navy herself.
These guys had college? Please So I guess the transcripts were just "Lost"= BS
That's The Way I made Sergeant! But I didn't have to file a suit the city lawyers agreed they had screwed up and I got into the class 3 days late.
It's not the first time that transcripts and such have gone missing from the files of officers due to negligence/incompetence at HR/Personnel at 3510.
Ladner should have never been appointed to run that division, ever. Another stupid, stupid move that rests solely at the feet of J-Fled. I recall very well his speech in which he stated he was going to do a 'nationwide search' for a HR head for the CPD. Who knew that this nationwide search would lead directly under Daley's desk at the Hall?
There were three of us in the last class. We were told that the department didn't have our college transcripts, and the higher ups were upset and wanted to exclude us to.
the department wants to punish us for their mess up. unbelievable .
"It's Amazing What You Can Accomplish When You Don't Care Who Gets the Credit" - sign on Ronald Reagan's desk
It ain't gonna cost the city a dime. They're in the class. Tracey may be the biggest asshole on the department, but she is not the be all end all when a rational decision needs to be made. FOP should be given some credit as Gorman and Dimaria worked their asses off to get this wrong righted before either copper filed suit. Now along comes an attorney who has an axe to grind and will attempt to grab the credit while giving the organization a jab not for the coppers, but for himself because he feels he was wronged. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
The Department has too often had to amend class lists for mistakes, errors and omissions. This is no different.
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That is the most important part of the story. And I don't doubt for a second that because these two apparently made it on their own without a clout bump, that their voices aren't heard by the powers that be....it's disgusting that after so much hard work and SIX years ( + ) of waiting for this, that the rug was pulled out from under them.
I hope they prevail!
Ladner should be FIRED!
If this was private industry i.e. a real job, Ladner would have had her walking papers to the unemployment line a year ago!
Crooked ass city hiding one of their own amongst the ranks of qualified!
Da Pelon
Sad thing is is that even this will not get that useless, incompetent, racist Ladner fired. Whoever the political hack that put her into her position needs their ass handed to them.
Anonymous said...
They are going to steal a third one shortly. It concerns the interpretative anaylsis of police pension board trustee ballot placement. A few of the candidates did not have their petitions notorized prior to 9:00 am and were treated to free notary service by the pension fund in order to be eligible to be placed in a ballot lottery. This cannot take place because the pension fund cannot also act as an extension of their individual campaigns. The favorite sons were treated specially, but the class of persons were all supposed to be equal.
It's going to be interesting.
Is the Illinois Comptroller around?
9/26/2012 12:37:00 AM
Sgt ML you lost in a fair election. Dont be such a hater. You are not the authority when it comes to all things Pension. Relax and enjoy your retirement in 001.
The problem here as I see it is that FOP and stroke Shields just don't give 2 shits about the members, and coppers don't have the ambition to go to meetings and set this asshole straight. FOP should be right up Ladners ass about this stuff, so what docoppers have to do, spend thier own funds to try to make it right. Then our Boss, McCarthy, who has no clue as to how our Chicago System works is blind to it all.
McCarthy is well aware of how incompendent Ladner is. No one at 35th st cares. Bitch about Shields all you want, but this issue is usually resolved by the facts not lawsuits.This is grand standing by the attorney.
Their lawyer is former Chicago police officer Daniel Q. Herbert. A highly dedicated police officer.
I understand a few officers who were highly qualified and were backed by the district commanders were not even considered by this political hack.
IN regards to the SunTimes and Trib, they should credit the source of the report.
OT: Chicago Crime Commission calls for 1400 new, that's NEW police to combat, " epidemic " of killings. Teachers strike, which Rahm was in full spin mode and now the children are being killed with Rahm playing politics. Lets sit back and watch him spin this.
100 million on yuppie bike lanes and 55 million to honor a family who basically financially destroyed this city. Now that's great leadership. You probably will become the President.
Doesn't anyone at HQ, including McCarthy have the common sense to correct this injustice by just verifying the college transcripts existed and make the two guys sgts without having to bring further discredit upon the department by having this lawsuit aired in public?
Do you need a college degree to be a Sgt? If not, will they make it a requirement along with the power test to take the Sgt.'s exam in 2013? Or will they say just as long as you have your degree when you get promoted it's ok?
Anonymous said...
When I was close to being promoted, I got a call from someone in personnel (I think) who said he was going down the list, making sure we all had our transcripts in. Gawne, maybe?
Anyway, that was the decent way to do things. I guess decency has also left the building, along with Elvis.
9/26/2012 01:12:00 AM
That was Sgt Ray Gawne. He knew all the in's and outs of personnel. He got so sick if Ladner's bullshit that he retired. Would have probably stayed forever if it wasn't for her. Damn near wrote his resignation on a paper napkin after dealing with her antics
Anonymous said...
They are going to steal a third one shortly. It concerns the interpretative anaylsis of police pension board trustee ballot placement. A few of the candidates did not have their petitions notorized prior to 9:00 am and were treated to free notary service by the pension fund in order to be eligible to be placed in a ballot lottery. This cannot take place because the pension fund cannot also act as an extension of their individual campaigns. The favorite sons were treated specially, but the class of persons were all supposed to be equal.
It's going to be interesting.
Is the Illinois Comptroller around?
9/26/2012 12:37:00 AM
How about the fact that Shields is running again for pension board rep!
Both the president of FOP and pension positions are meant to be full time positions. They are set up that way because the amount of work needed for those positions warrants them being full time.
How does Mike Shields think he has the time to do both positions at the same time? I will not even go into the side job that is talked about on hear and how much time that takes as well
Lay off Ladner she runs a tight ship having been in the Navy herself.
These guys had college? Please So I guess the transcripts were just "Lost"= BS
9/26/2012 02:51:00 AM
Yes, 'lost' is BS.
"Deliberately removed" is much more accurate.
crying for the Secret Study Group Kiddies.....
ha, i always hear it first here at SCC. keep up the good work you guys and don't listen to those incompetent media whores.
I think city is going up to 300 sgt without merit. The new test comes out sometime late 2013. The result from the new test will take about two years to be posted.
It's not the first time that transcripts and such have gone missing from the files of officers due to negligence/incompetence at HR/Personnel at 3510.
Ladner should have never been appointed to run that division, ever. Another stupid, stupid move that rests solely at the feet of J-Fled. I recall very well his speech in which he stated he was going to do a 'nationwide search' for a HR head for the CPD. Who knew that this nationwide search would lead directly under Daley's desk at the Hall?
Possum Head knew!
How does this Ladner keep her job? First the BS with the wellness, then this? I would think that Rahm The Impaler who tolerants little in the way of failure would stand for such incompetance.....who is Ladner's clout?
"And the Sun Times Group is once again stealing stories from the blog - that's twice yesterday."
Here's another one for them.
What did CeaseFire's Dr. Gary Slutkin do with the million dollars he got from the City of Chicago?
People go to prison for running out the door with a package of tooth whitener.
"Equal justice under the law..."
Hey! Andy Shaw! Better Government Association!
>sound of crickets<
Can Ladner just admit they made a mistake, and avoid a lawsuit? What good does this do? They(the guys to be promoted) have the ppwk.& its just a phone call to the college(By Ladner's office) to get another copy. What is this asshat being paid to do, if its creating problems that don't even need to exist...fantastic job! Also Agree w other people KF a good dude, will make a great sgt.
Ladner & CO toooo busy with Hamilton Masters KB Tactical Barbies Leave of Absence Extensions for
Crook County
9/26/2012 02:46:00 AM
Tactical Barbie works in Public Relations for Motorola Mobility. There was an article in a trade publication recently describing how she took a bunch of engineers that design police electronics to a gun range so they could experience high stress. Whatever...then she went on to give her Schwarzenegger-like police action resume. Chicago street cop, tactical operator, trained alongside delta operators, blah, blah, blah. Who would think in this day and age you'd need so many operators to answer phones?
Why didn't these officers keep the receipt HR provides when you turn in your transcripts? IJS
I have a question for everyone. How many more sgt r they going to promote before the new test result come in?
last 2 promted will be sent home before being sworn in , it's the chicago way
Anyone think that this is a great way for the city to get two more of their people in. I mean since this has happened before and clearly the two will make Sgt eventually, it just seems like its planned this way. Just wondering.
There are actually 3 officers and the city is still playing hard ball with them, they are still not in the class. The ball less FOP is believing that snake Oneil when he says it's all good they will get in. He knows they will have to fight to get in, then fight to get the lost seniority. This is how the city does things, they mess up and then blame you and make you fight to get what you deserve.
Where is the FOP Press conference? Where is our representation? Putting vaseline on so they can get really f---ed during the contract talks. This is the prelim and they are looking like shit.
It ain't gonna cost the city a dime. They're in the class. Tracey may be the biggest asshole on the department, but she is not the be all end all when a rational decision needs to be made. FOP should be given some credit as Gorman and Dimaria worked their asses off to get this wrong righted before either copper filed suit. Now along comes an attorney who has an axe to grind and will attempt to grab the credit while giving the organization a jab not for the coppers, but for himself because he feels he was wronged. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
No they are not in the class! The will have to file a suit to get in. Bank on it...
How about the fact that Shields is running again for pension board rep!
Both the president of FOP and pension positions are meant to be full time positions. They are set up that way because the amount of work needed for those positions warrants them being full time.
How does Mike Shields think he has the time to do both positions at the same time? I will not even go into the side job that is talked about on hear and how much time that takes as well
9/26/2012 10:42:00 AM
Someone running said they were down there early to post their papers and although 2 people only had signed in for the day, Pension Board said there were six people that had turned their paperwork in. How can this be if only two signed in? Mix in the missing notary issue and this stuff looks rigged.
WHAT TO PISS OFF LADNER?
Every police officer, 12000+ should send a request under the FREEDOM OF INFORMATION ACT to demand their personnel file.
The FOP and PBPA could coordinate this.
Get the request form at:
http://www.pbpa.org/downloads
/magazine/2012/97-fall2012
Go to Page 12 of the PBPA magazine
Where were the transcripts from?
To the Anonymous said...9/26/2012 09:03:00AM know-it-all goof who can tell anybody how to do anything better.
The only reason you don't go to an FOP meeting is you'd be embarrassed from the minute you opened your mouth . Bullshit and results are two different things. Results you can take to the bank and get paid, bullshit is more plentiful than oxygen and free.
Guess you'll continue to hold court after roll calls and at home when you're hiding behind your computer.
Fraternal Order of Police Chicago Lodge #7
Current Update
September 26, 2012
Excluded Sergeants Added to Class
Four Officers contacted the Lodge late Friday evening after they were wrongfully omitted from the Sergeant's Promotinal List. The Lodge was unable to immediately address the issue due to the late hour, upcoming weekend, and Department Command Staff unavailability.
Beginning early Monday morning the Lodge worked non-stop for the past three days on behalf of these Officers. This afternoon Lodge
Representatives attended a meeting with the Superintendent and his staff at his office. The Lodge was successful in its efforts as these Officers will be in class at the Training Division at 8:00 am tomorrow morning.
It ain't gonna cost the city a dime. They're in the class. Tracey may be the biggest asshole on the department, but she is not the be all end all when a rational decision needs to be made. FOP should be given some credit as Gorman and Dimaria worked their asses off to get this wrong righted before either copper filed suit. Now along comes an attorney who has an axe to grind and will attempt to grab the credit while giving the organization a jab not for the coppers, but for himself because he feels he was wronged. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
Regards,
Paul
The two not allowed in Sgt class, start tomorrow in the academy .. Law suit dropped
Garry Francis just doesn't get it!!! Never has never will!!!
They Report tomorrow, I guess someone does have some sense.
Anonymous said...
I have a question for everyone. How many more sgt r they going to promote before the new test result come in?
9/26/2012 01:10:00 PM
I hear they're going to make everyone thats above you a sgt and then toss the list.
they will all be in class tomorrow. thanks to FOP.
wont cost rahm a cent. only loser is the guy that filed suit when he did not have to. its midnites in the 6th district for you, sir. enjoy the heavy brick you just put on yourself.
Anonymous said...
It ain't gonna cost the city a dime. They're in the class. Tracey may be the biggest asshole on the department, but she is not the be all end all when a rational decision needs to be made. FOP should be given some credit as Gorman and Dimaria worked their asses off to get this wrong righted before either copper filed suit. Now along comes an attorney who has an axe to grind and will attempt to grab the credit while giving the organization a jab not for the coppers, but for himself because he feels he was wronged. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
Dear Shields and the Gang,
Maybe if you did not spend so much time blogging you would have more time to service the needs of your members. Then you would not have to spend so much time blogging about how you failed to service the needs of your members...It is a vicious circle, no?
Who has the list?
Someone running said they were down there early to post their papers and although 2 people only had signed in for the day, Pension Board said there were six people that had turned their paperwork in. How can this be if only two signed in? Mix in the missing notary issue and this stuff looks rigged.
9/26/2012 03:57:00 PM
You're not required to sign in when you go there. If there's more than one or two people there, it's a good idea, but if there's no one else there and you are seen immediately, signing in is pointless.
Who do we sue for promoting 1701 1st watch?
Whoever you are stay off the radio already eerynight at 0430 asking where people are to log on computers and if they have curfews...
SUGGESTION: Hey DSS! Have your Sgts send you a pdt message...do you hear 016 get on the air at all any night with that nonsense? NO...cause our LT has his act together!
SHHHHHHH!! Radio silence.....
Thats how we roll..
016
So if the city goes up to 300 off the list that means 90 (30%) were merit. So why aren't officers 301-390 mandated to remain on a must promote list like the fire dept does. It isn't fair that 90 probably deserving officers lose out. They obviously aren't clouted probably not part of any secret study group (cause they would have scored better). Our union should contact all of them!
Hey officers. I'm a teacher. Did you all notice none of us were slamming CTU or our President. It's a miracle your union does anything for it's members at all. You complain when they don't do anything and then you complain when they do. As an outsider it appears that the officers were included in the promotional class due to the union efforts. I don't see one complimentary word posted just more complaining about the union wasting time allegedly blogging here. I can't imagine where I would be without the CTU. Do you really believe you'd be better off without your union? Be careful what you wish for. We all wanted Daley out and look what we wound up with.
KF Is a class act from 012, ul be a great Sgt , good luck , John G
Hey officers. I'm a teacher. Did you all notice none of us were slamming CTU or our President. It's a miracle your union does anything for it's members at all. You complain when they don't do anything and then you complain when they do. As an outsider it appears that the officers were included in the promotional class due to the union efforts. I don't see one complimentary word posted just more complaining about the union wasting time allegedly blogging here. I can't imagine where I would be without the CTU. Do you really believe you'd be better off without your union? Be careful what you wish for. We all wanted Daley out and look what we wound up with.
Thanks for coming, AguiLIAR. Now run back to your office and blog some more.
Who is the charming and mysterious Tactical Barbie? I hear that she is smart too.
It ain't gonna cost the city a dime. They're in the class. Tracey may be the biggest asshole on the department, but she is not the be all end all when a rational decision needs to be made. FOP should be given some credit as Gorman and Dimaria worked their asses off to get this wrong righted before either copper filed suit. Now along comes an attorney who has an axe to grind and will attempt to grab the credit while giving the organization a jab not for the coppers, but for himself because he feels he was wronged. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure this one out.
Dear Shields and the Gang,
Maybe if you did not spend so much time blogging you would have more time to service the needs of your members. Then you would not have to spend so much time blogging about how you failed to service the needs of your members...It is a vicious circle, no?
9/26/2012 11:30:00 PM
Dear Sir, you clearly do not know what a viscious circle. look it up, dummy.
sir, a vicious curcle is when one trouble leads to another that aggravates the first. you clearly do not know what a viscious curcle is. dummy.
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