Tuesday, September 04, 2012

Why Shaved Mattered

WARNING Short Attention Span Readers:

This post is going to be extremely long and detailed at points. It is also going to be vague where necessary or where we choose to be so - our blog, our prerogative. We are trusting the reader to be able to discern which is which. We will mention certain things because it is essential to the narrative and certain things will be left unsaid. The unsaid things will be deleted from the comment section if they are brought up - again, our blog, our prerogative.

We are going to do this without directly linking to the article in question as it is near slanderous in its nature and as yellow a piece of "journalism" as we have seen in many years. We assume the reader is competent enough to find the article using a simple Google search, but we'll quote enough of it for you to get the gist. We encourage readers not to dignify the article with any search hits, but we can't stop you.

On with the show:

Recently, a blog linked here, partially inspired by this blog (by the author's admission on numerous occasions) and frequented by many readers here and elsewhere, suddenly went off the air and the archives were removed from circulation. The stated reason was that the Better Government Association paid a visit to a blog advertiser and confronted them about the content of the blog. The citizen contacted the blog owner and the owner chose to remove the blog from the public forum rather than associate his sponsors with negative publicity. The BGA described the confrontation as thus:
  • A racially charged blog that reportedly has wide readership among Chicago police officers ceased operations this week less than an hour after the Better Government Association visited a detective to ask whether he was the anonymous operator of the web site.

A supposed government watchdog group investigating private citizens and what they do in their spare time? And why would this concern the BGA?

  • The detective – [...], who is on disability leave for an injury – denied running the controversial blog...
Now the reasoning becomes somewhat clearer - the disability roll is the recent subject of a Sun Times investigation. Some officers are accused (but not ascertained) to have been abusing the medical roll, and rather than reform the contractually negotiated benefit, Rahm wants to destroy the entire system. To do that, he needs collusion from the media and other government organs to highlight the most egregious cases of abuse and inflame public opinion against the police. The media, being compliant lapdogs of the mayor, splash a few headlines around without respect to due process, rules of evidence or contractual protections.

The most recent headline involves an officer going on safari and being able to fire a rifle. The reports slyly allude to his inability to fire a handgun as required by the Department, but as any idiot knows, firing a pistol and firing a long gun are completely different actions. In fact, wasn't it Anna Davlantes who did a special report a few years ago where she attempted to hit a balloon with a handgun, failing time and again, and then nailed the balloon on her first try with a rifle? Cops don't regularly use a rifle and being able to fire your primary weapon is a necessary part of the job. The media didn't explain that, emphasizing instead the disabled officer's attempts to lead a somewhat normal life.

NOTE FOR PINHEADS READING: We are not making a judgement on the officer. We don't know him nor have any reason to support/reject his claims. If the city has an inkling of fraudulent use of the Medical Roll, by all means investigate it. If fraud is found, prosecute to the fullest extent of the law, imprison and seek restitution. Every honest cop and citizen expects no less. The trouble begins when the political system of Chicago (the Machine) accepts and condones fraud from top-to-bottom (merit promotions, connected contracting, political companies padding, etc.), then you run into problems, but that's a post for another day.

Back to the BGA article:
  • The BGA decided to look into the blog’s operations because it appeared to be run by one or more Chicago cops...

We didn't know that the BGA had taken over investigations of Department members from the Internal Affairs Division and the Independent Police Review Authority. If this is indeed the case, then Rahm and McJersey could save a lot of money by disbanding IPRA and reassigning IAD Police Agents to districts driving beat cars in order to further "lower" crime numbers. If the BGA hasn't actually taken over, then this is one of the most egregious violations of Department protocols that we have seen in our collective 100+ years of service, the other being Barb West's illegal First Amendment investigation into the SCC blog involving covert surveillance on a Department member and a complete lack of required notifications in place per the Consent Decree from years past (yes Barb, we still have copies, and if IAD hasn't violated their own regulations along with numerous state and federal laws, they have discoverable copies, too - sleep well treacherous one).

In any event, the BGA investigation led them indirectly to a blog advertiser, who was then confronted without any evidence and questioned as to his association to the blog. It escalated to his actually being accused of running the blog. The advertiser denied being the blogger and refused to speak further as he was under no obligation to answer their questions. This begs the question that if they knew or suspected the individual was the blogger and they also knew that the individual was duty-disabled, how could any of this be "on the clock"?

One answer is, "It isn't." Another answer is, "This is bullshit." And in fact, it is. The majority of the article is a justification of why they went after the blog, rather than a listing of suspected infractions, which in itself would reveal that the BGA is doing what IAD and IPRA are forbidden from doing, namely conducting another illegal First Amendment investigation into the off-duty actions by a member of the Department.

ANOTHER NOTE FOR PINHEADS AND ASSHATS: We aren't now, nor have we ever, nor do we intend to defend the content of the blog in question. Quite frankly, some of it disgusted us to no end - quite a few things do. Our general rule of thumb was that if grandma was offended by it, then it didn't make our comment section. Grandma has since passed on, but we are still accused of all sorts of nonsense by tiny brains who don't have the ability to read or write a complete sentence, let alone follow a logical argument. Try hard to follow this - someone, probably Rahm, in collusion with the Department, abetted by the media, is using the BGA as a proxy to stifle a controversial blog. Period.

We continue:

Here's where they run into some very chilling and disturbing areas. The BGA article reads as follows (we are repeating a portion of the previous paragraph):

  • The BGA decided to look into the blog’s operations because it appeared to be run by one or more Chicago cops and, until Wednesday, reportedly had a large following on the force. Among other things, the BGA wanted to see whether the blog was updated by officers on the clock, and whether hate-related speech was permitted within the police department, which has a long history of racial strife within its ranks and between white officers and minority members of the public.

That's a fairly broad brush to be painting with: "...long history of racial strife..." Again, a post for another day.

But note that the first reason they give for investigating the blog is that it is "...run by one or more Chicago cops..." That's a hell of a statement to be making in public. Imagine if you will an investigation of anything because it was run by "black people," or "Jews," or "gays," or "Occupy protestors." Oh wait, that last one happens all the time and police departments across the country are attacked by the left wing as "oppressive" and "jack-booted" and accused of all manner of suppressing speech. But if a cop runs a blog, well, fuck him, he just isn't a citizen anymore.

You think that's an extreme statement? Look what the Chicago Police Department spokesperson said in this very same article:

  • Asked about the blog, which is often harshly critical of police and city leaders, department spokeswoman Melissa Stratton emailed the following statement: "The Chicago Police Department holds its members to the highest standards, whether they’re on or off duty. Any social media communications that disparage an individual or group based on race, religion, sexual orientation or anything else are reprehensible and against the policies of the Department."

Why ask the Department about a blog? Maybe because they are behind the effort to shut it down? The Department has declared via this airhead that your off-duty behavior is fully regulated by the Department. You cannot have an opinion that doesn't follow an arbitrary set of beliefs set by your political masters. You are an automaton without thought. You are not covered by the First Amendment of the United States of America. Are they fucking nuts? We welcome this debate. How are we expected to serve the people who live under the Constitution when we aren't permitted the same privileges and protections? Next thing you know, we'll be counted as 3/5ths of a citizen.

As the Rules were explained to us by people who actually know, you are held to the highest standards when you are representing yourself as a Chicago Police Officer. Your off-duty hours are yours to do with as you please (or at least they are supposed to be). But the Department has been using this hammer for years with the "bringing disrepute" charge upon the the politically unconnected. Ask around and see what we mean.

The article then delves into the realm of the ridiculous:

  • Patricia Hill, executive director of the African American Police League, said she has visited the [...] site a couple of times and has been pilloried there for her advocacy on behalf of black cops and the African-American community.

    "I would say this: they’re equal opportunity bigots, because they don’t like anybody," said Hill, a former Chicago cop. "Closed minded and narrow minded, I call them cowards."

Patricia Hill? Evidently, the BGA didn't do any homework on this woman. Pat Hill was on the radio constantly in years past, actively representing herself as a Chicago Police Officer, and then making racially tinged speeches, leveling unsupported accusations against the Department, advocating illegal and unlawful job actions, and encouraging what can charitably described as "resisting arrest" when performed by white officers. For years, she was untouchable, but she was finally fired or resigned when administrative charges were brought against her for assorted Rule violations. Quoting Pat Hill is a classic case of the pot meeting the kettle. Not a good example.

The last few paragraphs are more of the BGA justifying their being used as a stalking horse for the Rahm administration:
  • The BGA’s interest in the blog was amplified by [the advertiser's] disability status. The Chicago Sun-Times recently printed a series on Chicago police and firefighters on disability, noting the system is badly monitored and rife with potential abuse, with taxpayers subsidizing the tab, totaling $18 million a year for the police department alone. The city inspector general and the U.S. attorney’s office have launched investigations into the city’s "duty disability" program.

Again, the BGA has its interest piqued by a "disability status." What that has to do with an officer's off-duty actions is beyond our comprehension. If you are disabled, you end up with free time between rehab and therapy sessions. How you fill that time ought to be entirely up to you.

In conclusion, if you don't like it, don't read it. Every television set in the world comes with an on/off switch. Every computer has the same thing. No visits mean obscurity and a slow death in all forms of media - television, radio, internet, blogging, etc. We wouldn't be doing this if no one read it.

Everyone, be you a reader, visitor, or comment writer, ought to be severely disturbed by the shutting down of any blog, especially in this manner by a supposed government watchdog investigating something that has no relation whatsoever to government. This supposed "duty-disability status" smoke screen is designed to deflect suspicion from who is actually pulling the strings - Rahm, Machine politicians, Department brass, McWhatFirstAmendment? None of that has any bearing on what anyone does away from their work environment. Government cannot regulate speech, so it appears government is using a proxy to chill views it doesn't like.

FINAL NOTE TO TINY BRAINS: If you are going to make censorship and First Amendment arguments, make sure you know what you are talking about. We've been perfectly straightforward for years that we are a blog, not a government, and as such we regulate what we allow here. No one is stopping you from starting your own blog, just don't expect to use ours for what we deem as bullshit.

Also note that we left out any names associated with the blog in question as we fully expect and encourage the detective to look into legal action against the BGA. The burden of proof is on the BGA to justify their actions and accusations, not upon the detective to prove a negative. Someone has opened a proverbial can of worms.

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204 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well written, but even those of us without ADHD need a dose of ritalin!

9/04/2012 12:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I still say, "Goodbye Shaved, only read you a couple of times, and that was disturbing enough for me. You won't be missed." Anyone who could dare to put that
much hatred in print should be doing something else,
but they shouldn't be a cop.

9/04/2012 12:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Someone has opened a proverbial can of worms."





bon appetit.







Chalkie

9/04/2012 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

great story.first off pat hill has a special place in hell.hopefully soo,too.and the BGA lost any credibility with me after this.they will not get another dollar from me.and what about free speech? does that only apply to lib-tards? as far as shaved it was pretty bad at times with some of his peabrain commenters,not so much him.calling anyone who has a hispanic name an illegal beaner was pretty stupid.but some of his stories knocked the socks off me....like the herbie pulgar story?priceless.anyhow,good luck det shaved...hope they don't mess with you anymore.

9/04/2012 12:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, what is the record for comments on a topic? I think this one may set a new record.

9/04/2012 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great piece. Reminds me of various groups intimidating the advertisers on Rush Limbaugh's show. Every citizen should be concerned about the BGA going after a private web site that is critical of government. The BGA is suppose to protect citizens from the government not the other way around.
Likewise POs should be concerned about the Pension Board suspending the pension of a duty disabled cop with absolutely no due process. The pension board did this based on a Sun-Times article. An article that revealed that the officer had violated no rules.
As to the picture in the SUn-Times - who knows if the officer bagged that animal (and if he did so what?). I have a picture of me touching Dolly Parton's knockers - guess what? Never got near those puppies.
Wise up coppers!

9/04/2012 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unbelievably excellent SCC.

I'd just like to point out that if we're held to the highest standards on and off duty, why our own McSwizzle isn't followed while he's slinking around Rush St. chugging booze and picking up broads?

That comment seems like drivel compared to the excellent points you made, but I had to ask.

I've said it before and I'll say it again--you guys missed your calling--you're great writers. Hopefully a book will be forthcoming.

Great job, great points. I'll have to reread it a couple of times to absorb it all, but that could be one of the best pieces you've written.

Take THAT you media worms!!!!

And BTW, I didn't Google the BGA article. No need to.

With all the crooks in government, that they've got time to overstep those bounds is astounding.

9/04/2012 12:30:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

hate to be the bearer of bad news But your off duty hours are NOT your own " My private life will be unsullied" is part of the oath.

Uttering these words with your hand held high makes your off duty conduct their business

Court cases have shown that freedom of speech is not absolute and that polic department employees who bring discredit upon their employer can be punished.

Not saying I agree withwhat happened here For one thing I havent got all the facts.

But off duty conduct has been and will continue to be the Dept's business and discipline can be meted out in appropriate circumstances

9/04/2012 12:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I already miss the dirty wrinkled Chicago Police Detective windbreaker.

9/04/2012 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just more reasons that convince me I am doing the right thing in retiring early. Rather than continue the struggle against a corrupt department I will leave early and enjoy the rest of my life. The rest of my unit will get a better furlough pick and someone else will get the bid to days and the city will save my salary. And I will remove myself from the danger and liability we all face out there. Still, I will leave with more in pension money than some police officers in this country make in salary. Keep the faith.

9/04/2012 12:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What kind of legal action can be taken against Andy Shaw and the BGA??? Boycott Scum Times? Vote against the mayor next time around, I didn't vote for a carpetbagger . Amazing how he got elected..amazing the turmoil he created thru out this administration, and the increase if the decrease in the perception of crime, as certain areas drown in blood... Vote democratic this is the pile of shit you get..

9/04/2012 12:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Police just shot one in 022 with weapon recovered at 89 th and union.

9/04/2012 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous 29 and a day said...

I also believe (my OPINION) that the big game hunter featured in the Sun Times and many others are quite capable of taking light duty assignments, but instead are scamming the pension bd.

9/04/2012 12:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BGA is s joke. They don't look into things are supposed to look into. They only report crap.

9/04/2012 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I say we bombard the BGA with emails, letters, and phone calls. Unfortunately, I once joined the BGA, thinking they were better than nothing. I want my money back!

Slugs. Billions of dollars stolen by gov't thugs, and they stick their noses into places they have no right going. Hopeless.

Beginning tomorrow, I am going to start calling the BGA until I get someone to answer.

9/04/2012 12:36:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Some people cant handle the truth.I call them DEMOCRATS.

9/04/2012 12:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thats the quality of reporting the Scum-Times thrives on.

9/04/2012 12:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the BGA was all about transparency. Their site has comments enabled,but no comments are posted.
I tried to leave a comment,but the 2 anti-spam words needed cannot be read or heard.

9/04/2012 12:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well put, SCC!!!

9/04/2012 12:45:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Amen.

9/04/2012 12:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago defined

"...the political system of Chicago (the Machine) accepts and condones fraud from top-to-bottom (merit promotions, connected contracting, political companies padding, etc.)"

9/04/2012 12:54:00 AM  
Anonymous xcop7903 said...

BGA=KGB. Mr. Shaw, Mr. Putin. Mr. Putin, Mr. Shaw.

9/04/2012 01:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Blogs are a threat to the lamestream media.

Bloggers frequently have access to inside information either by the blogger or those close to him. Blogs have higher quality information.

Blogs usually concentrate on limited topics and being more specialized, can provide deeper discussion of the topic. More than any lamestream media outlet will provide. Blogs also do better follow-up stories and keep the story going, keeping the pressure up.

Comments to the blog needn't be politically correct, so blogs have more latitude in what they print.

Libel charges are rarely brought against bloggers.

The internet has signaled death to local media. You can't help but laugh at the desperation of these people, constantly looking for a "Chicago connection" to any news story, as if people are too stupid to appreciate news without that "connection."

The dead tree media's days are numbered. TV/radio outlets have fewer and fewer customers and they know it. Shaw clearly has media friends and any axe job that he can do on a popular blog will be welcomed by local media. It also appears that Shaw may be somehow "influenced" by the local government, perhaps with promises of bigger fish and better access later.

Either way it stinks.

I've never looked at that blog, but this is something we all should be concerned about. What will be next?

9/04/2012 01:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Capt. Obvious said...

You bring up the most valid of points: burden of proof. This department has lost all graspable consept of the meaning "burden of proof." IPRA simply collects a bunch of irrelevant 'accusations' and hammers officers until they succumb to the onslaught of bullshit. FOP lawyers sit idle as good officers get pounded by these ill-prepared, legal misfits at IPRA. It's a shame as well as criminal.

The system is broken. We didn't break it, they did. Big Brother manipulates the system until it serves his own purpose. We are nothing more than political fodder. Fuck that!

I will continue my fight with IPRA until they succumb to the truth. I will continue my fight with IPRA until they release those officers cleared of their charges yet still remain at call back or in other forms of control and abuse. Fuck these sub-human, A-Holes and the donkey they rode in on.

Thanks SCC, you hit the democrat on the head!

9/04/2012 01:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Keep up the heavy lifting, SCC. We're glad you're here.

9/04/2012 01:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Great post....i miss that blog! CFD...003...stay safe brothers.

9/04/2012 01:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Second City Cop has always been better.

They keep it classy.

9/04/2012 01:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

if this is true and the bga isn't lying,then why did chicago news report get shut down also?

answer:rahms comrades.

9/04/2012 01:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i hate to say this but daley never pulled this kind of shit.and i really hated to say that,believe me.

9/04/2012 01:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Sher said...

GOD BLESS ALL OF YOU WHO TELL THE TRUTH AND LIVING IN THIS CITY FOR MANY YEARS HAS SEEN WHAT ONE HAND DOES FOR ANOTHER WHEN THEY ARE CONNECTED...SHAME ON YOU RAHM and all of the other TERDS...BOY do they have screwed up priorities instaead of the people shooting all day & night killing off one another...SHAME ON YOU GUYS for not helping the public and going after truth tellers and seekers. TY SCC & DSLC for all you do...

Sher

9/04/2012 01:40:00 AM  
Blogger 12GA. said...

Yes, a voice silenced affects the many more who will not utter a word in defiance going forth; Mayor Emanuel has proven to be better than Daley at two things: Vindictiveness and Media Smear Jobs

Say what you will about the shut-down blog's commentary, it broke a few stories and did a pretty good job of covering national news as it related to the profession.

Unfortunately, it is too easy for our bargaining unit(s) to be bought and paid for; all it takes is a few jobs/promotions/contracts and then we are sold down the river.

I'm not a conspiracy theorist. Open your eyes and take a stand before it is too late.

9/04/2012 02:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Andy the Tool" or "Leatherman"...oops that has an interesting connotation! Or, "Washed up, too old for prime time, has been, who cares, reporter." Or, "Pam Zekman's twin."...ooo ouch! It's all legit!

9/04/2012 02:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Even if everything you write is true, he CHOSE to shut down, and apparently only temporarily.

And what would the lawsuit be over? Asking questions as part of an investigation?

9/04/2012 02:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice synopsis SCC!


Well written, concise and truthful.


Long Live Da Cock and Freedom!


9/04/2012 02:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Damn, you go RDO and effectively use your time to sharpen your swords.


The BGA is a non-governmental agency, that functions as a bully pulpit for the Chicago Machine.


The BGA has effectively destroyed any credibility they ever had with myself and any other liberty loving, card-carrying members of the ACLU!


I will defend Shaved's constitutional rights until I die.

Let Freedom Reign!

9/04/2012 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look into legal action against the BGA?

Officer please.

Shaved took down his blog of his own volition. The BGA had a right to out him. Freedom of Speech and all.

He was stupid enough to make himself an easy target. You also linked to him frequently and while you may not always have agreed with him you damn well should have stayed away. That blog was an is an embarrassment to a department that has enough problems from our civilian and sworn leaders and a subset of idiots who call themselves Chicago cops.

Once Shaved is officially retired he can post whatever racist/misogynist/homophobic shit he wants. In the meantime there are limits to freedom of speech for cops. Minor limits, but still limits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pappas_v._Giuliani

For example if a cop wanted to be a member of the KKK on his off duty time he could do that. He would just have to give up being a cop.

If a cop wants to hang out with gang members or as in the case of a former Superintendent I won't name, rhymes with PODriguez, convicted felons, he can do that. He just can't be a cop.

Get off your cross, SCC.

Shaved is already back to his usual game of money begging online.

I'm happy that you've never done that. The only time you shill for money is when there's a fundraiser for the family of a fallen cop or firefighter or they have some huge medical expense.


9/04/2012 02:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Rahm had to know about BGA investigation. After all, he is about the farthest leaning leftest after his boss: Obama.
The lean so far to the left, I am surprised they can stand up.

9/04/2012 03:09:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I implore our liberal, ardent, freedom-defending, word artisans to chime in, in defense of the Bill of Rights.


Nobody defends the First Amendment more tirelessly than Neil Steinberg.



This assault on freedom was right from the old SS manual.

9/04/2012 03:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks so much SCC for explaining just what happened to Shaved. There were so many rumors going around it was hard to understand how he could be shut down. I am guilty of sometimes going over the top with some language. You will have to admit the comical pictures and commentary made his blog worth reading....after yours of course. Granted we are all frustrated because we can no longer do our jobs. It feels like we have no way to voice our concerns about our own city. This city administration wants absolutely no criticism. None. Pretty sad when our teachers will have to take to the picket lines to force this mayor to give them a fair contract. Hope Shaved comes back and hopefully he will be exonerated and paid for his grief. Thanks again!!!

9/04/2012 03:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I loved Shaved's blog.

I agree that it was unfiltered and that lack of boundaries meant people expressed themselves blatantly. That included using crude language and even being racists at times.

So what? I don't condone racism, yet I condone humanity. Part of the human experience includes the not nice parts and the dark sides.

I think it often times shows more of a person's character to know what he or she says without a social censor there to make sure the words used are all politically correct. I think one can tell much about another by the porn he or she watches, or does not watch.

I think one can intuit much about another by that other's actions vs the person's cookie cutter reply to some generic questionnaire about what should be done and how every one's conduct out to be.

De Facto. De Jure.

Shaved's content was a raw and real look into the city operations. Much like living in Chicago, there is what the talking heads in the press say and spin, what the City wants you to think by what they promote, what the official on the books policy is and then THERE IS REALITY ABOUT WHAT IS TAKING PLACE.

Shaved's blog is/was not the reality for all. Still it was closer to the pulse of city life in a few ways then any other medium was.

I'm not a cop. I read and loved his blog for a few reasons. It was not for kids, it was not for the squeamish.

Shaved was always fair to his comment submitters. For every time some (presumed)white poster would say something bad about a mexican or black, there would be other users (presumed) to be black or mexican firing back.

While the words used were NOT civil, the theme of discourse was alive and active. Voices were heard, or at least posted.

Sure, nothing was going to come of that in a productive kind. That said it was a forum of sorts. It was always funny as hell, even if the snooty ones are loathe to admit it!

My friend moved into Chicago not too long again, from out of state. He asked me about the city and the different areas.

I had to bust his balls. I told him the official City Hall line was all areas are safe, clean, equal and all are fine to be in at any time.

He rolled his eyes and asked me again for some usable information. I had to come clean.

Here is the rich white boy section, here is the black section, here is the high crime black section, here is the good hispanic part and here is the bad hispanic part, here is the blue collar white section etc

The first reply I fed to him on a lark was like the main street Chicago press and City Hall and their snow job canned lines. The REAL sharing I did with my friend was closer in style and format to a Shaved Longcock post or comment.

Only one of my two answers was practically helpful and of benefit to my friend. Only one was genuine. It was not the nice and pretty one either.

LONG LIVE SHAVER!

9/04/2012 03:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I wouldn’t doubt for one minute that Google has provided interested parties at City Hall the name of the blogger in question. Google has very close ties to the corrupt White House that has served them very well lately when the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) closed an inquiry into Google collecting and storing private user information, including passwords and entire e-mails, from private Wi-Fi networks.

I hope the blogger in question was using software to hide their identity with proxy servers. Such software was developed so that people in places like China can give voice to their opinions on the Internet safely.

It is certainly a sad thing when the citizens of a formerly free republic must resort to such measures to avoid the heavy hand of authoritarian government.

Wake up people, our freedom is slipping away faster everyday and this is how they do. They pick on the controversial first because most people won’t defend them. Once they establish the practice they use it against all.

The Better Government Asso. is a sham and always has been.

9/04/2012 04:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We are all frogs in the pot as the "progressives" slowly turn up the heat.
PC bullshit is out of control as the useful idiots in the press attempt to control the "message" on behalf of the nanny state crowd. Imagine how surprised they'll be when they find out they've outlived their usefulness.
Orwell was right, he was just early.

9/04/2012 04:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


The 20th century main stream media is struggling to stay relevant against a tsunami of citizen journalism.

Corporations and their political puppets are losing control of the message and they don't like it.

9/04/2012 05:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Political corruption cannot thrive when the Media is free to do it's job. Chicago and Illinois are the most corrupt entities in the Country.

It is easy to draw the connection between a media that is on a leash and this corruption.

9/04/2012 05:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Wow $18 million dollars on CPD medical claims alone!

That money could be better spent to put up monuments in that $55 million dollar Daley memorial park can't it? Hail to the queen and the "World Class Sanctuary City" We got to get our hands on that money!

How many millions are we spending for the gang and gang violence health care cost alone -- that doesn't affect the entire city according to Rahm?

We're nearing the 2,000 gun shot victim total for the city.

$18 mil/2,000 = $9,000 dollars.

Are the bills for advanced life support, ER costs, and surgery, rehab and follow-up $9,000 per victim or are they higher? We'll just take the money via higher health care cost to everyone else though right? It's like a hidden gang on gang violence tax. Just like our insurance premiums are hit by the gang on gang violence tax.

But oh-no..see it's all gang on gang so it doesn't matter. Let some more illegal immigrants in and ramp up the health care cost some more. The dumb-ass public can't follow the money trail, how health care expenses are being passed onto us all when these people can't pay.

9/04/2012 05:30:00 AM  
Blogger Cone Of Silence said...

Seems to me the BGA had too much information that should NOT have been available to them.

Where did it come from?

How did they get it?

Why do they have medical information or the particulars of an officers disability status?

Is this not private and personal information?

This is typical of liberal politicians (and Rahm in particular)... complain about something being illegal until its something advantageous to their agenda, which, of course, now makes it perfectly acceptable.

9/04/2012 05:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I've never looked at that blog, but this is something we all should be concerned about. What will be next?

9/04/2012 01:08:00 AM




yeah, and you've never masturbated, too, right?

9/04/2012 05:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC ,the only true media outlet in chicago!

9/04/2012 05:54:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So simply stated, Andy Shaw was, is and will always be a shill for City Hall.

9/04/2012 06:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

29 and a day said...
hate to be the bearer of bad news But your off duty hours are NOT your own " My private life will be unsullied" is part of the oath.

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Who defines 'unsullied'? And if that's the case, then they better throw a lot of married bosses off of this job for sleeping with their 'underlings'.

And we can pretty much get away with ANYTHING if the only thing we have to worry about measuring ourselves against are 'Chicago values.' One of those values is intolerance for those who don't share your views? Like the Chick-Fil-A debacle? One thing is for sure, 9.5 blew any further political aspirations with that nonsense.

Freedom of speech is not free. And freedom of speech is not to be denied those with 'alternative' views---like OWS, or flag-burners. Just cops it seems like.

'Chicago values'. What a f*cking joke. How many aldermen/pols have gone to jail in the past 25 years?

9/04/2012 06:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
I still say, "Goodbye Shaved, only read you a couple of times, and that was disturbing enough for me. You won't be missed." Anyone who could dare to put that
much hatred in print should be doing something else,
but they shouldn't be a cop.

Agreed. As a PO of over 2 decades, I found that blog to be beyond offensive at times. When I'd think of civlians reading it, and possibly thinking it reflected the mindset of the average PO, all I could was shake my head.

9/04/2012 06:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

no reason to shut down if you are not doing anything wrong.

9/04/2012 06:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reminds me all the fights Howard Stern had with his own companies and the FFC throughout the years. And then how Janet Jackson's Nipple Gate basically drove him off terrestrial radio.

9/04/2012 06:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaved was a bit over the top for me, so I did what any person can CHOOSE to do.....I chose not to click his link. But just because I didn't care for the blog doesn't mean Shaved should be prohibited from expressing his opinions. Life would be pretty boring after a while if we all had the same thoughts, ideas and opinions. I may not support the tone and content of DSLC, but I sure do support him and his right of free speech.

9/04/2012 07:21:00 AM  
Anonymous large tom said...

i could write for hours but the readers digest version is: since when is censorship part of the united states of america? when freedom of speech if blatently applied to the masses we are no better than stalin, hitler,pol-pot,etc. power brokers in illinois have always silenced the opposition since alfonse capone. these people often refer to us as "the masses are asses" must be true. why would we keep electing more of the same and business as usual.

9/04/2012 07:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garry and Anita got together and one Po and one Detective are being indicted for medical abuse. They are doing this secretly and want to make an example by doing it for the media.

9/04/2012 07:32:00 AM  
Anonymous O'Brien said...

Anonymous said...
Look into legal action against the BGA?
Officer please.
Shaved took down his blog of his own volition. The BGA had a right to out him. Freedom of Speech and all.
He was stupid enough to make himself an easy target. You also linked to him frequently and while you may not always have agreed with him you damn well should have stayed away. That blog was an is an embarrassment to a department that has enough problems from our civilian and sworn leaders and a subset of idiots who call themselves Chicago cops.
Once Shaved is officially retired he can post whatever racist/misogynist/homophobic shit he wants. In the meantime there are limits to freedom of speech for cops. Minor limits, but still limits.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pappas_v._Giuliani

For example if a cop wanted to be a member of the KKK on his off duty time he could do that. He would just have to give up being a cop.
If a cop wants to hang out with gang members or as in the case of a former Superintendent I won't name, rhymes with PODriguez, convicted felons, he can do that. He just can't be a cop.
Get off your cross, SCC.
Shaved is already back to his usual game of money begging online.

I'm happy that you've never done that. The only time you shill for money is when there's a fundraiser for the family of a fallen cop or firefighter or they have some huge medical expense.
9/04/2012 02:57:00 AM
***********************************
I quoted this post in its entirety because it contains a great deal of accurate information about the actual limits of behavior that governs off duty behavior, and all of it is exactly correct. I'm afraid that SCC has, with good intentions, been somewhat misleading about that subject. This poster is correct, so don't fall into any traps. SCC mentions several times the BGA and what it is supposed to do. Since it is a private investagive organization, it is suppposed to do just what its owners/trustees or directors want it to do. No one is protected by the Constitution from private entities. Again the purpose of the Constitution is primarily to protect citizens fronm government, especially Federal Government, abuses. SCC you also mislead by saying that any action initiated would put the burden of proof on the BGA. That is absolutely wrong. Generally, the burden of proof in any legal action is on the plaintiff. There are only a few exceptions to that, and this case isn't one of them.

9/04/2012 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Nice summation SCC.

9/04/2012 07:39:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The FBI uses groups like the Anti Defamation League to skirt constitutional issues. They ADL looks into groups and conducts private investigations, even into religious groups, and turns the information over the the feds.

This is disturbing as it is the most un-American and anti-constitutional method to illegally violate the rights that citizens enjoy.

Now that Chicago is doing it, we should all beware and take decisive action against it.

9/04/2012 07:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.” UN Universal Declaration of Human Rights

It would seem Chicago is outside the Universe.

9/04/2012 07:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Socialists, communists, national socialists. They all have one thing in common. They send in their secret police or Gestapo to smash resistance to their cause. Do you believe that Rahm, ObaMAO, Madigan, Daley or any of the other political criminals are any different?

You better educate yourself and vote when it's time to. And don't just follow that party line bullshit. Find out what these people are all about and what their voting histories are before you support them.

9/04/2012 07:53:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

AMEN!

9/04/2012 07:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shutting down outlets of information is frightening. So too is treading all over an officers due process rights in a knee jerk reaction to an ever changing media report of the facts. It is true that if you read these disability news reports the reporters never clearly state that the question is can the officer safely discharge his firearm as a police officer. Quite a bit different than can he shoot a gun or go hunting with a rifle. How can they suspend one man’s benefits after admittedly giving notice of a hearing to another person. Government ignoring basic rights of free speech and due process. It is chilling to see this.

9/04/2012 07:57:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And why would this concern the BGA?

Because as government workers, the taxpayers pay our salaries. Unless you retire or leave the job, the BGA can rightfully investigate behavior that does not reflect favorably on the City. This is not restricted to illegal activity.

CPD is not a private corporation.

9/04/2012 07:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

F.Y.I. Just about the time Rahm took office the suntimes change owners there was an article in the paper, as stated in the article the new owners were very good friends of the new mayor( shortly after the paper got even more anti Fire&Police Penision articles contract issues in the paper) I know because I posted the article on My FireHouse Board !!!!!

9/04/2012 08:02:00 AM  
Blogger John Northen said...

"When you see that in order to produce, you need to obtain permission from men who produce nothing--when you see that money is flowing to those who deal not in goods, but in favors--when you see that men get richer by graft and pull ("merit" = CLOUT) than by work and your laws don't protect you against them but protect them against you--when you see corruption being rewarded and honesty becoming a self-sacrifice, you may know that YOUR SOCIETY IS DOOMED." [CAPS mine]

- Ayn Rand, "Atlas Shrugged" (1957)
__________________________________

Big props to SCC on this cogent analysis of the stalking horse BGA.

After you read CHICAGO...LEADING THE PACK IN CORRUPTION, you may logically conclude that the BETTER GOVERNMENT ASSOCIATION is, at best, an abysmal failure.

Furthermore, like local media, I believe that their pretextual meddling in the First Amendment activities of "Shaved" strongly implicates that the BGA is in collusion with City Hall and "Chicago values". [Ubi Est Mea?]

I have had personal experience with the BGA as a whistleblower [EXAMSCAM]. The BGA fed me to the wolves. Lesson learned.

THIS IS CHICAGO!

9/04/2012 08:06:00 AM  
Blogger John Northen said...

I strongly urge all interested in First Amendment case law to Google the following citations of four landmark decisions of the U.S. Supreme Court:

461 US 138 Connick v. Myers

391 US 563 Pickering v. Board of Education

429 US 274 Mt. Healthy v. Doyle

547 US 410 Garcetti v. Ceballos

9/04/2012 08:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I will say this, I am not a fan of shaved at all. I agree with SCC that many posts and threads were done in very poor taste. That being said, the actions of the BGA are without a doubt ILLEGAL. This is a first amendment violation of the highest order. I hope whomever the owner of the Shaved site is files a federal lawsuit against them. This is the UNITED STATES OF AMERICA, we have a right to free speech and no one has the right to take that away, especially the worms at the BGA.

9/04/2012 08:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Astute observations all, SCC.

As for the dirtbags at BGA doing City Hall's dirty work, I'd say Orwell's 1984 was just premature by about 28 years.

9/04/2012 08:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Imagine if you will an investigation of anything because it was run by "black people," or "Jews," or "gays," or "Occupy protestors.""

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I have had this argument before. Our moral code is flawed I argued. One cannot point out broad generalities about a race (unless it is a positive statement, like 'blacks run faster,'), but broad generalities can be aimed at occupations.

Those harmed by these generalities are still people. So why is one OK and the other not? Catholic Church, what say you?

9/04/2012 08:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So they went to an advertiser of Shaved's site - then found Shaved?


9/04/2012 08:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm glad the goof is gone and I'm sure his family feels the same.

9/04/2012 08:49:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The only reason I visited DSLC is because he actually broke the news I couldn't find anywhere else. I disagree whole heartedly with his racist, sexist, homophobic, rants but he, as an American has a right to say it. I don't agree that the majority of police officers feel the way he does with respect to most of his rhetoric, I think most are just trying to find information they can't get from the mainstream media. I would not be surprised if SCC remains a target. Due to it's popularity, which is increasing beyond police readership, information critical of the powers at be is going national. The mainstream local media can choose not to report it or report it inaccurately but thats not working anymore. Just like the "Merit" issue, all of the dirty little secrets are coming out, and that is making some people very nervous.

9/04/2012 08:50:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He wanted to represent himself as a cop, hen he should follow the rules. Just like atheletes when teams hold them accountable. All this nonsense for a free Folos beef.

9/04/2012 08:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Teechur said...

We're nearing the 2,000 gun shot victim total for the city.

$18 mil/2,000 = $9,000 dollars.

Are the bills for advanced life support, ER costs, and surgery, rehab and follow-up $9,000 per victim or are they higher?
9/04/2012 05:30:00 AM

The AMA estimates the average medical costs for a gunshot wound is @ $145,000. This does not include long-term care, which can run into the millions when, for example, a young person is paralyzed and needs specialized care for the rest of their life. Since most of the "victims" of Chicago shootings do not pay for their treatments, it is costing taxpayers almost $300 million per year. (And this does not count all the malpractice lawsuits that get filed by the "victims.")

9/04/2012 08:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think this time BOTH sides have to share some blame and responsibility.

9/04/2012 08:56:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the people fear their government, there is tyranny; when the government fears the people, there is liberty.

~Thomas Jefferson

9/04/2012 09:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, if you dont like it, dont read it. But... please dont complain about it!! Exercise your choice. Long live freedom of speech. Good job SCC.

9/04/2012 09:06:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well said! Bravo! We love you SCC & thanks for a voice on the dept. From the lowly,"stupid" blue shirt, unable to pass a test, because I'm not a good test taker.

9/04/2012 09:07:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, that was beautiful!!!

9/04/2012 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Very well said my friend. I agree with everything you said. As each days passes things get more Orwellian around this city and this department.

9/04/2012 09:14:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Yes BGA, make sure you don't " investigate the NBPP website that just had it's " leader " calling for black's to go into hospital nurseries and " kill and skin white babies ".
Also threatened to " have our boots on your necks ", this in regards to upcoming election.
I voted for obama, wolley cab, out of the car m*f*'s and even crazy ass aldo raine will be sorely missed.
But I fully expect to see them elsewhere, for no matter how hard oppressive regimes try to crush free speech, free men always find a way to have their voices heard.
s/ De Oppresso Liber

9/04/2012 09:20:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The BGA has no power to shut down any blog.

The First Amendment does not grant a right to be Anonymous.

If the blog is shut down, the only person responsible is the blogger. No one made him shut it down.

If the blogger was fearful or embarrassed about being publicly identified as the author, then closing his blog was his decision.

9/04/2012 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

29 and a day said...
I also believe (my OPINION) that the big game hunter featured in the Sun Times and many others are quite capable of taking light duty assignments, but instead are scamming the pension bd.
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To take a light duty job it first has to actually be offered. Being capable of performing "other" jobs means nothing if the City never offered it. Read the Kouzoukas case. Sun Times did not say nor has the board said that the officer refused any light duty assignment.

9/04/2012 09:29:00 AM  
Anonymous I Fart In Your General Direction said...

From the BGA thread below this one:

I agree you have a right to believe write what ever you feel about gays, woman , races and religion . But we the hell as citizens have the right to know if a large following of a major cities police believe disparaging things about it's citizens and can't get past it and they're personal views that it effects them so deeply that they have to post it in blogs. Believe what ever you want your a police officer you were suppose to have taken an oath. I happen to want to know if your racist .

RESPONSE:

An oath to serve, fairly and impartially, regardless of race, creed, color, orientation. You don't get to know the rest. Where's the oath the media takes to report even-handed, unbiased, party neutral etc?

9/04/2012 06:02:00 AM

I do serve the community to the best of my ability, regardless of the race, creed, color, gender or religion of those I interact with. They are given the best possible service commensurate with how cooperative and willing they are to aid me in helping them with whatever they want/need to be helped with. I give everyone the benefit of the doubt and always remain professional unless circumstances dictate otherwise. 

HOWEVER.......

What I do and say on my own time cannot, and will not be governed. I can be as ignorant, crude, racist, obnoxious, vile and crass as I want to be. Fuck the part of my oath that says "lead an unsullied life outside of work" - I'm not murdering hookers or molesting kids or selling dope or embezzeling from charity. 

And as long as my private rants and practices don't cross the line where they come to work with me, this department and government as a whole can suck my sweaty balls. In over two decades on this job, most spent in non-white areas, I have NEVER had a beef where it was claimed I used a racist or sexist epithet, and I'll swear to this on a stack of bibles. On the contrary, I've seen and worked alongside others (supervisors included) that said ignorant, out of pocket shit to citizens that would make Satan himself blush. 

People vent in different ways. People blow off steam in different ways. As long as it doesn't cross a criminal line, who gives a fuck if Officer Friendly beats off while Googling images of a certain digitally-challenged mayor of Chicago? 

Just because I took an oath and wear a badge doesn't mean I'm not free to express an opionion or view. And I'll be as descriptive as I want to be while doing so, even if it entails using foul, profane and racially insensitive or "taboo" wording. We're all allowed certain freedoms, free speech being just one of many. You don't have to like him or follow his blog, but Shaved is guaranteed these same freedoms.

9/04/2012 09:43:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

My opinion only:

The blogger got what he wanted.

He is set up to WIN a 1st Ammendment argument against the BGA AND

I see collusion and additional
civil actions pending for violations to the blogger's rights to free speech and rights to privacy against, not only the BGA,but also the Sun Times,and the City of Chicago $$$$$

This is still America.
Freedom of speech is a protected right. There is no calling out of "Fire" here.

Good luck to the blogger, (yes he does go too far in my opinion) but so does the Jackson family, Farahakan, Sharpton, Dukes,ET AL just to name a few protected blowhards.
PS:
Having worked with (same district and time)as P.H. I know her to be a liar, bigot, racist, and not the sharpest pencil in the box.

9/04/2012 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well done!

9/04/2012 10:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Andy Shaw was a local media slug who never seemed to find fault with Chicago government until he took his current position, and someone fed him this story. In the One Party world that is Chicago there are two great sins: Racism and not caring for "Da Children"! Shaved Cock made some statements that might have been seens as Racist, which meant he had to be destroyed!

9/04/2012 10:04:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Better Government Association and Sun-Times Media Group were sued Friday by a doctor who claims his reputation was damaged by a report about how he was overpaid almost $80,000 during a leave of absence from Stroger Hospital. False reporting can be dangerous.

9/04/2012 10:16:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Our dept rules clearly state we can be disciplined for on or off duty actions. Personally,I don't agree with it (no, not condoning domestic battery, DUI, etc). I hate the blog in question but hey, if thats how he or she feels, so be it. As long as his or hers obvious disdain towards minorities does not influence job performance, who gives a rats ass??

9/04/2012 10:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaved had readers around the world. They are still reading this blog as well.

He posted over one million "hits" to his site from readers...

Would it not be a just tribute from loyal readers (those who read but not always agree) with Shaved to post their disapproval with the actions of the BGA here in Illinois
on the very moment the mayor (9.5)
opens his arrogant mouth?

I intend to do so.

9/04/2012 10:21:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You make really good points, although I dont have enough legal knowledge to know if you are right in your arguements. However, this detective has now been painted with a brush that will haunt him for sometime to come. I have heard people make comments after reading the article in the paper and they think that that blog was pretty bad and have never visited the blog. The die is cast.That detective is now horsehit in the eye of the department.

9/04/2012 10:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If the powers that be want us to do the job in fear of outcome and liability and we should have some fear as we would be reckless and self serving,it's called discipline,if it ain't good then it's bad!Do the job as best you can with respect and hold that authority that we were sworn to with integrity and go home safe,get a paycheck then possibly a pension and call it a life!

9/04/2012 10:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As much as I agree with you on every point, I also believe now is not the time to pick this fight. With contract negotiations in motion,the slightest mention of this blog could completely derail any public support for our cause.

9/04/2012 10:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I was never really a fan of the shaved blog, but this of course is about the blatant attempt to silence a private citizen and the disregard for his freedom of speech. However, I am a fan and daily reader of SCC. The question is, when is the BGA coming after you SCC? You've pissed off more people than shaved ever did by speaking the truth. I hope you'd be in it for the long haul. Your blog is an important one.

9/04/2012 10:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaved told the truth, and I can't wait for him to come back.

9/04/2012 10:38:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

read the headlines in the UK. people get arrested for describing people by their race.

"a Liverpool man is being questioned by authorities for racist tweets. John Smith refered to a Man U forward as a 'black' on Monday..."

9/04/2012 10:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I thought the BGA was all about transparency. Their site has comments enabled,but no comments are posted.
I tried to leave a comment,but the 2 anti-spam words needed cannot be read or heard.
9/04/2012 12:42:00 AM

I had the same experience initially, too. But seeing that four other comments somehow made it through, I tried again by typing a reply to one of them.

That worked to the extent that I got a "thank you for your comment" acknowlegement. However, since it also goes on to say that my comment will be posted "once one of our administrators approve it", I'm not holding my breath.

Let's just see if the BGA can take it when the electorate shines a light on THEM.

9/04/2012 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is the same as recent chick fil- a bullshit. If you don't agree with comments of owner...dont eat his fucking chicken. If u don't like det. shaved, dont read it! Period.

9/04/2012 10:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't see their claim of a duty disability inspired investigation. Was Shaved running a 5x,10x or full marathon will writing the blog? Was he dancing? Scuba diving?Skiing? If his disability prevents him from performing certain tasks per a Dr. and he is seen doing said, then you might have something.

Objective journalism is a thing of the past. It died when Walter Croncikte declared the Vietnam war was lost. He influenced policy with his position as a trusted news man.

Andy Shaw is most definately doing Rahms work. This story has no place with a organization that looks for corruption within government. Rahms pulling a favor from an old journalist friend.

I did not care for Shaved, but I read it often. I do not care for white supremist web sites or the BLack PAnthers or a host of others, but that is one of our founding freedoms.

9/04/2012 11:05:00 AM  
Blogger David B said...

Well said and on the money!

9/04/2012 11:18:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Re: disability. knowing a handful of people that are On disability, can say that often times the injured who are on disability can, and are often willing to, come back to work in a different capacity. It is the city's choice not to allow this. The city would rather keep people on disability and pay them to do nothing rather than give them a different set of responsibilities that they can do. There are plenty of guys with injured backs, shoulders, knees, ect. that can work the desk and plenty of healthy desk people that can work the street. I don't understand it at all.

9/04/2012 11:25:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, I am truly appalled at the posting I just read and can't even begin to imagine how grossly the BGA outstepped their bondaries and even more appalled at whose behest!
Anyone with half a brain can link together the sickening incestual relationship between the politicians and media type in this town. No story goes to press and no story to air without the green light from some suit at City Hall and any media parasite that disagrees is a LIAR.
At a time when morale is at an all time low thanks to Rahm's handpicked Supt. and his continued failed startegies, while shootings and murders skyrocket, he has nothing better to do than attack a goddamn blog?
SCC, this blog is and shall remain an invaluable link to coppers from north to south and truly one of the few things coppers can agree on is your content and your knack of keeping us in the know. Don't sweat these asshats at City Hall and the BGA, the boys in blue will always have your backs.

9/04/2012 11:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have to laugh at the irony whenever SCC alleges libel.

Shaved was and is protected by the first amendment. Nobody forced him to shut down his blog. He did it himself.

If you don't think it's newsworthy that a Chicago Police Department detective holds and publishes extremist racist views, or that such a story is a legitimate target of the BGA, you're crazy.

I'm no cheerleader for the Mayor, but your belief that Rahm is behind every story that embarrasses the CPD is paranoid and self-serving.

9/04/2012 11:27:00 AM  
Anonymous FACT said...

Do you smell a huge stanky rat?

The BGA's "chief investigator" Robert Herguth is a former editor at the Chicago Sun-Times.

9/04/2012 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Actions like this will become only more common as more and more private citizens share stories, photos, etc, which undermine the narrative put out by corporate media at the behest of their government overlords.

When the news media tries to downplay this or that story - or the fact that stories of a similar kind are happening with enough frequency to become a pattern - such obfuscation and dereliction of duty is easily undermined by bloggers, etc.

There has been calls - from politicians in both parties - to further regulate the internet, and to prohibit anonymous posting entirely - because of the threat that this most free and democratic medium presents to maintaining the status quo.

Absolutely, Shaved was over the top, but when so many of the local media outlets bend over backwards (and have admitted to doing so) to either withhold critical information from stories, or to preemptively prohibit online discussions of them, then sites like Shaved, or here, become the only places left to get honest reportage about the news, and to engage in honest discussions about it.

9/04/2012 11:40:00 AM  
Anonymous FACT said...

Andy Shaw is the president and CEO of the Better Government Association. He also hosts guests at his Windy City Urban Inn, a B+B at 607 W. Deming Place.

His daughter Kate Shaw is an associate counsel to the current President of the United States.

9/04/2012 11:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

BGA = Tool for Rahm. Shaved should contact the ACLU. Also "begs the question" does not mean "asks the question". Look it up.

A gun toting liberal.
Long live the DFGO (democrats for gun ownership)

9/04/2012 12:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

as i said in a earlier post
i asked bda about it they said oh we are attacking any one we just made inquiries
as i seee now the other shoe has dropped
i really believe that 9.5 and them are in cahoots
and trying to intimadate blogs like you and shaved
remeber cardinal george's remark to Tiny Dancer
i wasn't aware that my beliefs and opinion were a materr of goverment review
as you stated when on disability one does have time o thier hands
how they choose to spnt it is THIER business
sending 50 ops to the convention when we were not even needed
that is waste where is the bga on that?
how about lookking into the school issue
jahn kass the morning was livid on WCL
as was the teacher union lady
she pointed out that there is only like 340 socail workers for 400,000 kids
like a 1000
kids per worker
but priorities first convetion scc and shaved
thne worry about shooting and death and screwing the teachers
and cops
how screwed is that?

9/04/2012 12:30:00 PM  
Anonymous "The Chicago Way" said...

This BGA debacle is such a transparent and flagrant insult to our collective intelligence.

The City of Chicago does not want to be defendants in federal court for First Amendment violations. The City includes CPD Internal Affairs, IPRA and the Office of the Inspector General, at least one of which is mandated to investigate any such violations pretextually alleged by the BGA.

What can the Chicago political slime do this side of murder (do NOT underestimate the treacherous bastards) to muzzle the TRUTH in blog sites critical of the most corruptly managed city government in the nation?

Let Andy Shaw and the "impartial" BGA do the "wet work". Eureka!

9/04/2012 12:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

God Bless you SCC. Thank goodness for SCC & DSLC.

God Bless the CFD & CPD.

Both SCC & DSLC blogs are a breath of fresh air in the Stae and City where government is rotten to the core.

Please, keep up the excellent work you both do.

Stay safe, keep your members safe.

9/04/2012 12:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Broken Man said...

29 and a day said...

I also believe (my OPINION) that the big game hunter featured in the Sun Times and many others are quite capable of taking light duty assignments, but instead are scamming the pension bd.

9/04/2012 12:35:00 AM

Try going light duty as of the beginning of 2012. It pretty much does not exist anymore. The City is FORCING those of us injured onto the pension/disability and off their pay roll. I'm not saying there aren't a few scammers, but it's almost impossible to go light duty and it is entirely up to the Department to deny it to you, based on the type of injury you have. My IOD days are rapidly running out and I am not even close to 50% healed. Do you want me backing you up on a 10-1 when I'd be lucky to get myself out of the car in the first place?

The light duty requirements will weed out a few who have been riding it too long, but will completely jam up a guy like me who is ready, willing and able to answer a phone or write a report, but the City would rather push us on to disability, then, make all disability receivers look like scammers. Absolute Evil Genius!!! You really gotta give it to Rahm, he's a smart, sneaky fucker!

9/04/2012 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

While I am no fan of that particular blog (it is a little too salty for my tastes), I am a firm believer of 1st Amendment rights regardless of what you do for a living.

Having said that...sounds to me like the BGA is impersonating a municipal government agency in this witch hunt...and as such I do believe that the blogger has several legal options to exercise at the civil court level.

9/04/2012 01:18:00 PM  
Blogger Det. Shaved Longcock said...

First may I say that Second City Cop is by far the best police blog in the country!

Second thank you for taking the time and effort to produce and post this thread about DSLC.

For those who visited the blog, thank you too.

My number #1 goal was to tell people the WHOLE news and not the pandering politically correct news that is published today.

Just like Archie Bunker from the old TV series All In The Family, I fully expected some to hate the uncensored DSLC News blog and some to love it.

But just remember when voices are silenced in this country, it may be your voice they go after next!

9/04/2012 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Unforgettable moment at a TV press conference -- can't remember the man's name, but I believe it was Illinois Lieutenant Governor stepping down, he had been ill.

He was very polite and gentlemanly to all. Among other things, he took the opportunity to say what he'd obviously wanted to say for years.

"And goodbye to you, too, Andy Shaw.

"I AM SO SICK OF THE SOUND OF YOUR VOICE."

The camera cut to Shaw. Blank face.

*

I'm still laughing.

9/04/2012 01:19:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I wouldn’t doubt for one minute that Google has provided interested parties at City Hall the name of the blogger in question. Google has very close ties to the corrupt White House that has served them very well lately when the Federal Trade Commission (FTC) closed an inquiry into Google collecting and storing private user information, including passwords and entire e-mails, from private Wi-Fi networks."

--9/04/2012 04:12:00 AM


Just reported today -- Google founder Sergei Brin's wife wants to put everyone's DNA sequence up on the web.

9/04/2012 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well done, SCC.

9/04/2012 01:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

A couple 'watch out fors' Andy Shaw and his little buddy Mark W. of IAD fame.

9/04/2012 01:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The dumb-ass public can't follow the money trail..."

--9/04/2012 05:30:00 AM


Is that so?

It takes about two minutes to find Loevy and Loevy's campaign contributions to Obama.

Of course they have the most peculiar people working for them as well, apparently just as a sinecure.

I can't for the life of me understand what these characters actually do, as they seem to spend all day every day on police web logs, generating about half the content.

9/04/2012 01:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There is no way that the Chicago politicos are not at work here. They are having the BGA, along with the useless media in this town to do their dirty work.

I did not read Shaved often, much of it I did not like, but I will agree that he has a right to blog it and write in whatever way he sees fit.

Regarding SCC, Chicago needs an option to hearing the truth that is behind the twisted stories, and sometimes blatant lies, that the media reports.

As for the tyrant who runs this city and his drunken superintendent, I truly hope that there is such a thing as karma and for all the sly, underhand, pompous evil Emanuel and McCarthy pull, I hope the bad karma returns a hundred fold upon them.

9/04/2012 01:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Only one of my two answers was practically helpful and of benefit to my friend. Only one was genuine. It was not the nice and pretty one either."

--9/04/2012 03:40:00 AM


...and guess where people like Andy Shaw live. It ain't at 79th and Gunshots, that's for sure.

What's that word in the Bible?

"Hypocrites," isn't it?

9/04/2012 01:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The BGA is a fraud. They have lost their legitimacy in my eyes.

9/04/2012 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I read Shaved's blog often because he disseminated local and national news that are of interest to me.
I particularly dislike his brand of bigotry and that of many followers on the blog. I must say that ,as Hill said, he dislikes everyone equally. Whites being assholes are immediately branded "White trash" for example. He also allowed for dissent on his blog. I posted on occasion to argue or attempt to provide somewhat of a balanced view. He would often post my comments with minimum editing.
After my rambling post, I would like to say that I hope Shaved or something similar comes back with the same type of news minus the crude opinions. If his readers are smart enough, he can post the same news and let his readers draw their own conclusions.

9/04/2012 01:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"I'd just like to point out that if we're held to the highest standards on and off duty, why our own McSwizzle isn't followed while he's slinking around Rush St. chugging booze and picking up broads?"

--9/04/2012 12:30:00 AM


...not to mention the never-ending rumors of domestic violence.

Lautenberg.

9/04/2012 01:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

I've never looked at that blog, but this is something we all should be concerned about. What will be next?

9/04/2012 01:08:00 AM


yeah, and you've never masturbated, too, right?

9/04/2012 05:46:00 AM



Why, oh why did you have to put that image in my mind?

Now I'm picturing some freedom of speech advocate spanking his Rahm and viewing the now somewhat deceased blog.

9/04/2012 01:47:00 PM  
Blogger John Northen said...

This thread is now cross-referenced under Post #63 on THEE RANT.

CLICK HERE.

This topic on THEE RANT now has over 16,000 views.

9/04/2012 01:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Putting it in perspective --

What would DSLC do if he saw a man with a gun? Any part of town.

What would DSLC do if he was driving along at 2 AM and saw smoke coming from a house? Any part of town.

What would DSLC do if he saw an officer in trouble? Any part of town.

Where did that "D" come from?

...and the city is on its ear about some alleged "web log."

Typical. You'll hear right away if some copper wore a joke T-shirt out of the house too.

Here -- just grab something at random from today's news.

"The cop in the passenger seat got out of the squad car and chased the male, while his partner raced to the other end of the alley...

"During the foot chase, the pursuing officer saw the male pull a silver handgun from a back pocket and soon saw that pistol aimed at him...

"The officer identified himself and fired, wounding the teen when the young man refused to drop the weapon...

"After being wounded, the gunman began firing on the officer before the cop's partner returned fire, striking the teen several more times."

Five seconds ago there was nothing happening, and you were talking about what fishing lure was best...hey. What's with this guy?

Just that quick.

"Web log." Christ.

9/04/2012 02:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

McCarthy promised Channel 2 to punish a couple medical abusers. Now he is trying to have the Po and Det. indicted. Watch yourselves.

9/04/2012 02:14:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a picture of me touching Dolly Parton's knockers - guess what? Never got near those puppies.
Wise up coppers!

9/04/2012 12:30:00 AM

I was at the same wax museum and have a slightly raunchier photo....Poor Dolly.

9/04/2012 02:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like it or not, Shaved mattered !! Any media outlet that exposes the corruption & bullshit of the Democratic Machine is OK by me.

Shaved told it like it is.

The South & West Side battle zones are not populated by clones of Bill Cosby's TV Family. For the whining liberals who think otherwise, take a walk thru these areas. It's time your eyes were opened & you get added to the "victims" list. In fact you don't have to go there anymore, just visit Chicago's Loop or Gold Coast. Ghetto Thugs now make house callsl to every neighborhood.

The Machine hates being exposed for what it really is.

Welcome to Shitcago. Murder & Mayhem brought to you by the 5th floor at shitty hall. The best politicians that money can buy are in charge.

9/04/2012 02:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Am I the only one who thinks a group called"The Better Government Association"operating out of Chicago,Cook Co,Illinois is beyond hilarious??

9/04/2012 02:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"...Anti Defamation League...looks into groups and conducts private investigations, even into religious groups, and turns the information over the the feds."

--9/04/2012 07:40:00 AM

ADL is a good example of an NGO operating, like BGA, "without portfolio," as the saying goes.

They run "L.E.A.R.N.," "Law Enforcement Extremist Action Network" or something like that. "Conducting training seminars," etc. All kinds of badges, police imagery used. They will tell you who the "extremists" are and what should be done about them.

SPLC, Southern Poverty Law Center, is another similar toxic NGO.

Public info -- look up "Mark Pitcavage;" he is this enormous fat guy who seems to have spent his life in a side room with a computer, "monitoring extremism." I mean, since computers were invented. I think he finally hit the jackpot and is getting a paycheck for it from somewhere. It's just one guy.

Too many private interests openly "formulating public policy."

9/04/2012 02:56:00 PM  
Anonymous James "Snappers" Scallon - (deceased) said...

Well written post SCC! It's reason I come here.

Reading Shaved was hard. Some of you may not have liked his blog, but he always had some good hit piece on the powers that be. IMHO, this hit by the BGA is payback for Heriberto Pulgar mess in particular. Think of all the pols that were embarrassed by that story. I'm not saying Shaved had it coming but don't expect to walk away from embarrassing a pol without getting your ass kicked somewhere down the line.

9/04/2012 03:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"[Andy Shaw's] daughter Kate Shaw is an associate counsel to the current President of the United States."

--9/04/2012 11:59:00 AM


Love this Obama administration!

MSNBC Hires Left-Wing ‘Nation’ Editor as New Weekend Host

Posted on August 3, 2011 at 4:39pm by Madeleine Morgenstern

"Chris Hayes, Washington editor of liberal magazine The Nation, will join MSNBC as a weekend morning show host, the network announced this week...

"...he’s married to Kate Shaw, who works as an attorney in the White House counsel’s office.

“Cable news is very white, male and straight,” Hayes said. “I feel extremely strongly given the fact that I can‘t do anything about my own white male straightness that I have the duty to double down in efforts to make sure what we present is reflective of the diversity of the country at large in a way that cable news doesn’t always do a good job of.”

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/msnbc-hires-left-wing-nation-editor-as-new-weekend-host/

Influence! Influence! Influence!

Incest is cleaner and more straightforward than what you find when you take two minutes and scratch the surface here.

9/04/2012 03:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Am I the only one who thinks that a group called "The Better Government Association" operating out of Chicago, Cook Co., Illinois is beyond hilarious?"

--9/04/2012 02:40:00 PM


It does sound like what you'd paint on the side door, huh? "Social And Athletic Club..."

Dis town ain't ready for reform...

9/04/2012 03:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Northside, you forgot to site a case, Larry Flint V. the US. Sounds funny, but this too, was a pivotal case in 1st amendment speech.

9/04/2012 03:32:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

DSLC will be a VERY RICH MAN! This is not Nazi Germany and the BGA has shown it's willingness to be used by the powers that be. They are not interested in corruption, just painting the police in a bad light. If you pull a Democratic ballot, just be prepared to live with yourself when this country collapses due to unsustainable Democratic policies.

9/04/2012 03:46:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree that the shaved blog was offensive. I also find things written by Mitchell, Main, Brown, Steinberg and Fusco offensive.

Define offensive.

As a P.O. am I allowed to fly the stars and bars on my front porch? Does it bring discredit to the department?

I see officers of color everyday that, in my opinion, bring credit to the department in their manner of dress, speaking and general deportment.

Typical of the CPD. Multiple sets of rules.

9/04/2012 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"James "Snappers" Scallon - (deceased) said..."

--9/04/2012 03:08:00 PM

Hey SCC! You can say anything you want here if you're dead. Better than being retired!

"IMHO, this hit by the BGA is payback for Heriberto Pulgar mess in particular. Think of all the pols that were embarrassed by that story."

Yeah, so embarrassed that they dug themselves in deeper and deeper, like City Clerk Susana Mendoza giving Herbie a thousand bucks of her own money.

Way to go -- some volatile problem kid in a "group home" -- WHAT IF HE HAD BOUGHT A GUN WITH THAT CASH?

Risking other people's lives for a little face-time in the newspaper.

Idiots.

They extradite the father from Venezuela on those drug trafficking charges yet, or is he still hiding over there raising fighting cocks for amusement?

9/04/2012 04:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Remember the 1st and 2nd Amendments must be taken from us.

9/04/2012 04:54:00 PM  
Anonymous O'Brien said...

Yes, SCC and others, please learn the meaning of the phrase, "Begs the question." It is a debate term that means restating the premist to prove the resolution. It does NOT mean to give rise to a question or to raise an issue.

Thanks,

9/04/2012 05:05:00 PM  
Anonymous WHISTLEBLOWERS UNITE said...

Neither the Inspector General nor IPRA and certainly not the obviously biased BGA have any jurisdiction to investigate such an allegation. They must defer to "the Rat Squad" (IAD), an agent of potential defendant the City of Chicago. Under such circumstances, the City cannot pass the buck to outsiders in a patent attempt to escape liability in any future litigation.

Was Barbara "The Quisling" West assigned to IAD when she attempted to retaliate against SCC for exercising protected First Amendment rights?

9/04/2012 05:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Disabled police officers are not "on the clock" nor are they employees of the Department. They are not on the payroll. Technically speaking they are [rivate citizens, just like retirees, of which I am one. They are paid by the pension fund. BGA investigated a private citizen over their advertising or running a blog. Maybe their donors should hear about that.

9/04/2012 05:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

First ammendment rights? Are you fucking kidding me. Since when have our rights as documented in the bill of rights really been honored by the government? I have published books dating back decades that have been officially censored. The idea that we as Americans are free because of the codification of a bill of rights is absurd and something only third graders should believe. Governments are tyrannical including this one and if shaved seeks redress in the courts then good luck to him because this will prove to be a crap shoot or flip of a coin at best. We really need to disabuse our selves of the notion that we are free and our freedoms are absolute. It's time to grow up. Freedom is an illusion.

9/04/2012 05:11:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC is the greatest blog/news source in the city. I checked into DSLC, no comparison.

However I agree that it is disturbing that BGA shut him down.

9/04/2012 05:27:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Read the Kouzoukas case.

Why would you even mention her name. She is a scam artist who should have never been on the job. Maybe they should investigate her.

9/04/2012 05:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


TRUE STORY

So last year I'm having dinner with a lovely young lady(friend of a friend)and I'm showing off my schmart phone.She asks to use it to see how well it gets wifi.Within a minute of taking the phone she's laughing hysterically.In my google search history:DETECTIVE SHAVED LONGCOCK.

9/04/2012 05:38:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Anonymous said...

Just reported today -- Google founder Sergei Brin's wife wants to put everyone's DNA sequence up on the web.

9/04/2012 01:23:00 PM


She can stop by and collect a fresh sample from me anytime!!

9/04/2012 05:41:00 PM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

To the poster who quoted "your private life be unsullied"---

Excellent point.

May I introduce you to Retired Deputy Chief Ernest T. Brown.

You point again?

You get a special----

Kees me you fool!!!!

9/04/2012 05:51:00 PM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

OK--back to my normal self.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

9/04/2012 05:51:00 PM  
Blogger John Northen said...

3:32 PM

You are referring to 485 US 46 Hustler Magazine, Inc v. Falwell.

I respectfully disagree. This is a libel case in which respondent Jerry Falwell had claimed intentional infliction of emotional distress by Flynt's magazine.

However, I would like to recommend an expensive law book which you can read and photocopy (13 pages) at law libraries:
The Labor Lawyer's Guide to the Rights and Responsibilities of Employee Whistleblowers by Stephen M. Kohn and Michael D. Kohn. I emphasize particulat attention to Chapter 5: Overview of a Whistleblower Claim, pp. 73-85.

In Illinois, the statute of limitations requires that the plaintiff must file a federal complaint within two years of any retaliatory acts by defendant(s). When possible, photocopy all potentially relevant documents, take meticulous notes and under no circumstances be insubordinate to your "superiors". Say "yes, sir" to the muthafucka.

Also, understand the meaning of legal terms such as matters of public concern, the Pickering balance, pretextual, dual motive, constructive discharge and front pay.

9/04/2012 05:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaved was horrible and if an officer, he was an embarrassment to the police department. Im sure there were a few that shared his sentiments but to spew such hatred was uncalled for. If he wasnt such a coward and he really stands by his blog then he should be a man and stand his ground. Unfortunately I think he also realizes that his way of being is not tolerated in a civilized society.

9/04/2012 06:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Just more reasons that convince me I am doing the right thing in retiring early. Rather than continue the struggle against a corrupt department I will leave early and enjoy the rest of my life."

Nice idea but where and when does it end? What if you retire, are on disability or just quit w/o a pension? Do you have to look over your shoulder for the rest of your life?

Rahm sees "Andy the pimp" at some media event and Rahm tells Andy about the DSLC blog (or maybe Andy is already aware of it.)

Rahm says Andy might be given certain "privileges" if he checks up on the blog advertisers. During Andy's investigation, he finds that a certain name keeps popping up and it's a CPD detective who's on disability. How quickly do you think he talked to said disabled policeman, telling him that his disability INCOME FOR LIFE might get cancelled unless there was an immediate HALT to that annoying blog??? Now the whole Sun-Times “Disability” investigation looks completely staged in order to put some pressure on someone.

We indeed take an oath to make sure our actions don't besmirch the good name of the CPD. Everyone knows that the last thing we want to do is to give the department a black eye in public. But does that mean we can’t have opinions? Does that mean we can’t engage in blogging? There are existing laws against favoring one race against another. Laws stopping unfair treatment based upon sex, race, nationality, sexual orientation, etc. Does that me we have to LIKE certain things? Can the government dictate that I HAVE TO LIVE next to a Swedish, cross-dressing male who’s on the Sex Offenders list? You can prohibit improper actions against an individual but you can’t say I have to LIKE him.

DSLC was, in many ways, tame. Readers comments may have exacerbated some issues but that’s what a blog is about.

Now it’s just flat-out EXTORTION to keep this blog quiet. Every fascist ruler has tried to put a muzzle on free speech. If this whole thing goes uncontested, we’ve ALL just gotten one step closer to the end of America as we’ve known it.

God bless America. God bless Shaved!

9/04/2012 06:20:00 PM  
Blogger I Voted For Obama said...

Hi Shaved. Good to hear from you. I won't go away either.

9/04/2012 06:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

i hope shaver can sue these commie bastards.good luck shaved.

9/04/2012 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

James "Snappers" Scallon - (deceased) said...
Well written post SCC! It's reason I come here.

Reading Shaved was hard. Some of you may not have liked his blog, but he always had some good hit piece on the powers that be. IMHO, this hit by the BGA is payback for Heriberto Pulgar mess in particular. Think of all the pols that were embarrassed by that story. I'm not saying Shaved had it coming but don't expect to walk away from embarrassing a pol without getting your ass kicked somewhere down the line.


9/04/2012 03:08:00 PM


Hmmm, SCC had the Rahm Tomato security breach fiasco posted.

Better watch out SCC, Rahm might sic Andy Shaw on you next for the bag of tomatoes story.

9/04/2012 06:26:00 PM  
Anonymous P.O. Randy Stevens, Dist. 018 said...

"The burden of proof is on the BGA to justify their actions and accusations, not upon the detective to prove a negative. Someone has opened a proverbial can of worms."

Shaved has cause to file an expensive lawsuit against yellow-journalist Andy Shaw and his First-Amendment-hating BGA.

I visited Shaved's blog on occasion, and proudly (and publicly) gave him kudos for breaking the gang-banger city sticker story.

Andy Shaw: if you hate the First Amendment so much, please take your Flag-Hating Butt to Red China and see what life is like in the controlled-world that you envision and desire for all of us.

9/04/2012 06:31:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I didn't care for shaved. Bunch of crap. Having said that,
the 1st amendment isn't meant to protect speech that we like it's to protect speech that we hate.

9/04/2012 06:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

These blogs are operated by individuals and they are free to refrain from posting comments they feel aren't in the spirit of the blog. Many of the comments posted on Shaved were rude, bigoted and just plain vulgar, but it was his blog and he can allow what he wants to appear, the 1st Amendment allows this since he's not a government sponsored entity.

These lefties bother me. They are Nazis in the worst sense of the word. They want to be pro anything, be it gay rights, abortion and free speech. As long as they agree with it. If they don't agree with you, they want the full weight of the government to come crashing down on you. They are the most vile criminals in the modern world, the thought police.

Isn't an anonymous post just that? If you wanted people to know who you were, you'd post with a name. There are many things I know to be true and not all of them are things that make me proud or things I'd repeat in certain social settings. But I find them to be true, but some things are just better kept to yourself.

9/04/2012 07:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Hey Northen,

The link you put up? No longer available.

Did you save the contents anywhere?

9/04/2012 07:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Garry and Anita got together and one Po and one Detective are being indicted for medical abuse. They are doing this secretly and want to make an example by doing it for the media. Its a fact. Iad has been working with Special prosecution for over about a week on this. McCarthy is selling his soul to the media.

9/04/2012 07:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Hot Pursuit said...

It's a sad day when certain folks try and force there opinion on you, happens a lot now a days. Now they force you to read only what they believe you should read, with the spin of what they believe it should be. That’s wrong, that’s sad, that’s f ed up.

I have visited that blog multiple times. I have also made comments of certain issues. So what, you don't like what is said, then turn the channel, hell there is a red box with an X in it located in the upper right corner, just click and your offended self can feel better. Just there... wtf.

A flash for BGA, you are a fake, you are slacking and probably proud of it.
First of all, if he or she is on disability, then that would be a disability pension. Under state law, those responsible for overseeing that pension have probably followed the law and sent he or she to at minimum 3 doctors who deemed that person unable to continue to act in the capacity of whatever the job description is. So why is the BGA concerned with disability? That’s the scam, they are not. Maybe if they video tapped someone with a back injury riding in a bull on ESPN, then notify the pension board and show the evidence.... until then back to making a Better Government, you’re doing such a fine job.

I think it's a sad day when you take on the First Amendment for select vocabulary and by select person(s)and try an set a president for such. I can't to see how you’re going to clean up all of it.

9/04/2012 07:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

For all of you who think Rahm's not behind a lot of this shit, grow a brain. How many examples do you need of our elected criminals intimidating the media or any who speak out against them? Daly had his thugs punch a guy at a meeting, Blago called to get an editor fired and alderfool and Rahm trying to deny a license to Chic-Fil-A because they don't agree with socialists on gay issues. You're a fool if you think they aren't evil and violating your liberties on a daily basis.

9/04/2012 07:27:00 PM  
Anonymous James "Snappers" Scallon (deceased) said...

"Hmmm, SCC had the Rahm Tomato security breach fiasco posted.

Better watch out SCC, Rahm might sic Andy Shaw on you next for the bag of tomatoes story."

9/04/2012 06:26:00 PM

I'm not saying SCC hasn't broke many a damn good story. Many times this blog has been featured in print and media with the stories that shine light on some extremely touchy subjects. I've seen this blog transform itself from a personal project, to a bathroom wall, to a rather decent and credible source of news that the big boys refuse to touch. There are times I don't know what to expect from this blog but I always tune in to get my daily fix. Shaved never got to that level. I hate saying this but Shaved was the "National Enquirer" of police blogs.
In the case of the missing strawberries, I mean misplaced tomatoes, how many local television, print and radio outlets carried that tomato story? None. The Pulgar shit got so bad in the media here and nationwide that Herbie's "artwork" graces the halls of Congress. There was also the constant hazing of Sheriff Dart and the shenanigans in the 19th ward. My point is that when you have a blog like Shaved's turning over apple carts on a regular basis, shit's gonna come back at you. I honestly hope he comes back under the Shaved blog and I also hope he plays a bit smarter as a result of all this.

9/04/2012 08:12:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It would seem Chicago is outside the Universe.

9/04/2012 07:43:00 AM

OMG! That one sentence explains everything! And all this time I thought I was the alien! That doesn't explain my third eyeball, but hey, close enough!

9/04/2012 08:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't Rahm make an outstanding mobster? And i deeply apologize to all Mobsters.

9/04/2012 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone who runs from the police should get slapped in the mouth.

9/04/2012 08:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,

I would be willing to send a small contribution to a legal defense/Civil Suit expenses fund that would go towards the damaged party associated in the article that also happens to be the police. We would love to see a suit against the BGA or maybe the Andy or that spokesperson of the BGA.

Several guys in my district have also indicated a $20 benefit ticket/PayPal acct set up for him would be something we would be proud to support.

Maybe you could do a post regarding this.

9/04/2012 08:26:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

..dont eat his fucking chicken.

9/04/2012 10:59:00 AM

And don't choke it either!

9/04/2012 08:30:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If u don't like the shaved blog, then don't go it. But don't try to enforce your moral ways on us.

9/04/2012 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaved was definitely not an embarrassment. The embarrassment is YOU!

YOU who continues to close your eyes to the victims of this city ( doctor, tourist, the elderly, the gangbanger).

YOU! whose only concerns is your insatiable EGO!

YOU! are a cold heartless hypocrite

Shaved at least shed light in Reno911 style of irony, sarcasm and foolishness. Shaved brought media attention to the people who are callously ignored.

9/04/2012 08:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

O'Brien said...
Yes, SCC and others, please learn the meaning of the phrase, "Begs the question." It is a debate term that means restating the premist to prove the resolution. It does NOT mean to give rise to a question or to raise an issue.

Thanks,

9/04/2012 05:05:00 PM

Premist? Not in the dictionary.

There's a reason for the 'preview' option.

So when you're trying to sound like a know-it-all ASSHAT, you don't make yourself look like one.

The meanings of phrases can change into idioms, which are permissible in ever-evolving languages.

Just to clarify. LOL!

I've got to go to the ASSHAT meeting now--will you be there?

God, I LOVE martinis! Blame any spelling or logic errors on them.

9/04/2012 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Keesing Bandit said...
OK--back to my normal self.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

9/04/2012 05:51:00 PM

I'VE MISSED YOU! WELCOME BACK!!!!

Do you know where Missy the Parking Guru and The Ultimate Tactical Warrior are? Have you all been on a world cruise or something?

9/04/2012 08:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"why shaved mattered".....because of the 1st Amendment to the United States Constitution

9/04/2012 08:53:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm happy to see such interest in the topic of free speech and other constitutional issues.

Hopefully every single person who posted a comment is registered to vote.

If not, GET UP OFF YOUR ASS AND GO DO IT! NOW!

9/04/2012 09:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Shaved,

We don't miss you!

9/04/2012 09:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

His daughter Kate Shaw is an associate counsel to the current President of the United States.

That tells me all I need to know. Better Government Association my ass. They should be ashamed to call themselves that. Go to hell, Shaw.

--No Cop Here

9/04/2012 09:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Rahm sees "Andy the pimp" at some media event and Rahm tells Andy about the DSLC blog (or maybe Andy is already aware of it.)..........



Lets get this straight.Rahm and Andy do have a pimp/whore relationship,but Andy isn't the one calling the shots.....

9/04/2012 09:56:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

legal action? who you shittin'? BGA did not force shaved to take the site down. he did it on his own. if he wasnt doing anything wrong, he should have kept the site up and running.

9/04/2012 10:17:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

9/04/2012 12:13:00 AM

I just got on this comment page and you are the biggest asshole Ive seen ever on scc. "I still say" youre a bitch.

9/04/2012 10:37:00 PM  
Anonymous Peter V. Bella said...

Click on the name to get my article in the WasahingtonTimes on this.

9/04/2012 11:23:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Welcome to the New World Order

9/04/2012 11:34:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

legal action? who you shittin'? BGA did not force shaved to take the site down. he did it on his own. if he wasnt doing anything wrong, he should have kept the site up and running.

9/04/2012 10:17:00 PM





just so you won't have the last word:



bite me.

9/04/2012 11:44:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wouldn't Rahm make an outstanding mobster? And i deeply apologize to all Mobsters.

9/04/2012 08:23:00 PM




too late to apologize.


and, no, he wouldn't make a pimple on accardo's ass.

9/04/2012 11:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I honestly hope he comes back under the Shaved blog and I also hope he plays a bit smarter as a result of all this.

9/04/2012 08:12:00 PM




what makes you think he's not playing it smart right now?

9/04/2012 11:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC, there is no doubt in my mind, just to echo a comment near the top, that the next J.D. Salinger is a part of SCC. I'll get to say to young peeps on the job that I corresponded w/such outstanding literary talent.

9/05/2012 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"The AMA estimates the average medical costs for a gunshot wound is @ $145,000. This does not include long-term care, which can run into the millions when, for example, a young person is paralyzed and needs specialized care for the rest of their life. Since most of the "victims" of Chicago shootings do not pay for their treatments, it is costing taxpayers almost $300 million per year. (And this does not count all the malpractice lawsuits that get filed by the "victims.")"


So you're saying it's cheaper if they die?

Chalkie...are you listening?

9/05/2012 01:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

at this point,i'll bet andy shaw is wishing he would have left this whole thing alone...talk about something blowing up in his face.lib-tard.

9/05/2012 01:58:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

I haven't seen the Warrior or Missy. I was over at Shaved's site because many of the people that read it thought just like me.

SCC is kind enough to let me come back. I promise to behave....a little.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

9/05/2012 06:28:00 AM  
Blogger The Keesing Bandit said...

I have lots of DNA samples. However, you have to come get them before laundry day.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

9/05/2012 06:32:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is a vey slippery slope we are facing. Where does it end? The mayor publicly stated that a certain restaurant chain doesn't have the city values so is willing to refuse a business permit because of the owners personal opinion. So if a police officer is on duty or off duty and eats at this restaurant, can the department now discipline this officer? Or even dictate what restaurant they can eat at who they feel will not bring discredit to the department because of that's owners personal opinion and views?

9/05/2012 11:34:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agreed with very little that DSLC had to say, but I appreciated his perspective and there were times when that perspective led me to change my opinion.

I have a great deal of respect for this blog, I may not always agree with your conclusions, but SCC offers a fearless perspective of corruption and opinion that cannot be found in the mainstream media, especially here in Chicago.

Pressuring a Blog to shut down is abhorrent, but that's the way the game is played in Chicago by the powers that seek to control all of us. I guess speech is only free when you say the right things.

9/05/2012 03:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

cummunist at their finest..pretty soon they will re-educate you or walk you to a gas chamber.

9/05/2012 04:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC is kind enough to let me come back. I promise to behave....a little.

Now, kees me you fool!!!!

9/05/2012 06:28:00 AM



now where's the fun in that?

9/05/2012 07:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

So you're saying it's cheaper if they die?

Chalkie...are you listening?

9/05/2012 01:34:00 AM




when someone's knocking on my door

when someone's ringing my bell

i open my door

and let them in.


don't blame me when they get yanked back out by the misguided body mechanics.





Chalkie

9/05/2012 07:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

As someone who was born, raised and lived in CHICAGO for 50 years (till 8 years ago when I couldn't take it anymore and moved out)..someone who had an uncle and cousin on the Chicago Police Force.. what they are doing to the Police is nothing but insane..
I give credit to the boys in blue who have their lives consumed by having to live within the city.. apparently not having the same rights as other citizens whom they are suppose to protect all to cover up for the corrupt politicians who do NOT want the truth out for the average citizen to see.. it's been that way for years..
I have pointed everyone of my relatives who are to stupid to move out of CHICAGO to your blog so they can at least be informed..
Hold on cause I have a feeling that things might get dicey for all who run anything that contains truth about Chicago while I never read the other blog this one is honest and transparent.. but that won't count when RAHM allows (or orders) anyone with the truth to be shut down.. As pointed out that IS just the start.. the only way they can win is to shut the opposition down..dismiss them..or mock them making the truth not relevant to any discussion.. and THAT is their end game.. let the gangs rank over the police than shut down their voices..IF the Chicago police can't stand up and fight what chance does the average citizen who's NOT a gang banger have..???
This is a well written piece and a sign of things to come..

9/05/2012 11:01:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's a question..

Isn't our speech as officers, or more importantly 'city employees' protected by the whistle blowers law?

Are we supposed to just clam up when we see such egregious things because we may face reprisal from supervisors?

Makes you wonder...

9/06/2012 01:29:00 AM  
Anonymous O'Brien said...

Anonymous said...
O'Brien said...
Yes, SCC and others, please learn the meaning of the phrase, "Begs the question." It is a debate term that means restating the premist to prove the resolution. It does NOT mean to give rise to a question or to raise an issue.

Thanks,

9/04/2012 05:05:00 PM

Premist? Not in the dictionary.

There's a reason for the 'preview' option.

/.../

The meanings of phrases can change into idioms, which are permissible in ever-evolving languages.

Just to clarify. LOL!

I've got to go to the ASSHAT meeting now--will you be there?

God, I LOVE martinis! Blame any spelling or logic errors on them.

9/04/2012 08:47:00 PM
***********************************
Yess you caught me in a typo and you are right I did not use the preview option. Sorry.

You are also correct that words, phrases, etc. can evolve into different, idiomatic meanings. The word "ain't" is a classic example of a slang term that has become acceptable English in some parts of the US. However "Begging the question" ain't one of them, at least not yet. It still means using the premise to prove the question, as in: You are stupid because you are so dumb.

9/06/2012 10:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You are stupid because you are so dumb.

9/06/2012 10:44:00 AM

No, you are! LOL:) Thanks for the laugh!

9/06/2012 11:40:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Glad you posted this, thank you. I miss my Detective Shavedlongcock, and have always loved his blog. What a shock going there to find out it is gone! Love you Detective Shavedlongcock!!!!!!!!!!

9/07/2012 09:25:00 PM  

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