CAPS is Dead? Finally?
- Chicago police officials are contradicting each other and withholding information about the future of the program designed to open communication networks with the community.
On Friday afternoon, the director of the Chicago Alternative Policing Strategy, or CAPS, added the latest twist, denying that anything will be different next year—except where it is.
"Nothing has been changed, so to speak," says CAPS director Ron Holt.
Really?
As I reported earlier, the budget for the CAPS central office has been cut from about $4.6 million this year to zero for 2013.
When your job (or your entire department/division/bureau) ends up as a line item of "ZERO," that usually means something is up.
- While monthly or semimonthly beat meetings are scheduled to continue, police superintendent Garry McCarthy said this week that he wants to dramatically revamp things so that district commanders decide what to do with CAPS beat by beat.
"I want a philosophy of policing. I don't want a program, and CAPS is actually a program," McCarthy said. "We haven't finished all the details on this now, but the fact is that we're distributing all the CAPS folks out into the districts, into the district commanders' hands, where it's localized and they have a better handle on what's going on."
Aldermen repeatedly asked just how this new form of community policing would work, but McCarthy struggled to explain it—probably because, as he admitted, he didn't know himself just yet.
"This is all being built as we speak," he said.
That sounds ominous. But Wysinger has a different song book that he's singing from:
- First deputy superintendent Al Wysinger added that Holt and other top CAPS officials—those who've been responsible for implementing community outreach citywide—would likely be given other duties. "We don't know where they're going to fit per se," he said.
In the real world, that would be a kiss of death - but CAPS has had so many pronouncements of its demise (and it is the Halloween season where the dead walk....and vote) that we can't really believe it.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
143 Comments:
its better to burn out then to fade away...
No SCC you are wrong. What this really means is that once again in "good" neighborhoods CAPS will go away and that money will be funneled elsewhere. In shit neighborhoods they will continue to have their asses kissed and receive more city services than those who actually contribute. You and I will no longer have beat meetings where we live but you damn well better believe 011 and 007 will.
I dunno... Frankencaps being led by a mad doctor and his assistant Igor???
I said a long time ago that the only thing that wouldthe be left of CAPS would be the logo on our cars. I was told then I was full of stuff. I guess I just had to wait a bit.
18 days and counting.
Can we now take those bullshit CAPS stickers off marked squad cars?
CAPS WORKS!
(While I have made MILLIONS of dollars off my city CAPS contracts, would I lie?)
i honestly thought CAPS was dead years ago, but like a horror movie the monster keeps coming back to life just when you thought it was over.
Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit from my hat, presto, oops!!
A "REAL" cartoon you can love
All the CAPS officers should go out, hit the streets and be real aggressive for their alderman. That's what they said they wanted. More aggressive cops.
I got your aggression right here. Well, here under my paper and lunch bag. Yeah. here. Here you go. Here's your aggression.
DAMN!!!! Just heard the 14th Dist Commander is returning to work soon. Boy the mood has changed everyone seems so sad :(
Can they spot rats in the alley too? Cause there's a ton of 'em.
We don't need caps anymore we have ceasefire!
The CAPS officer in my district was visibly nervous in light of this news.
He was seen kissing exponentially more ass than usual in a feverish attempt to keep his spot.
It was somewhat humorous.
And me you ask? Well I'll just go about answering my calls, taking my personals & lunches. Not owing anybody is priceless!
You mean I can't order CAPS refrigerator magnets, pens, and rulers, no mo'?
CAPS isn't dead. Felicia Davis will be running the "new" CAPS Office.
The police that appear on chicago fire NBC, are they extras? If so they should boycott appearances based on principle. Each of the first 3 episodes have portrayed the police in a very bad light.
CAPS had one purpose only... To get king richard the MUMBLES re-elected. Other than that all it did was provide a ton of smoke and mirrors. CAPS WORKED NOT
this explains why our CAPS sgt has been desperately trying to escape...(not to a watch of course cause hes 2 from bottom in seniority)
Bye-Bye CAPS. May you rot in hell.
CAPS was the dumbest thing this department has ever done, in a long history of dumbness and dumb things!
Speaking of budget issues..
October 22, 2012
Chicago Proposes 'Violence Tax' On Gun and Ammunition Sales - 12
by John Haughey
Illinois is the only state in the nation that doesn’t "allow" citizens to legally carry a concealed weapon. Yet Chicago, with 401 homicides in 2012 by Oct. 9, has more murders caused by gunfire than any other major metropolitan area in the country.
Rather than restore residents' Second Amendment right to own a weapon for personal protection -- as the city was commanded to do by the U.S. Supreme Court in 2010's McDonald v. Chicago ruling -- city politicians want to tax away violence by imposing a levy on all ammunition sold in Cook County.
If adopted, the proposed "violence tax" will assess either a 2-percent tax on ammunition purchases or levy 10 cents on every bullet sold in Cook County.
Cook County Board President Toni Preckwinkle believes the proposed "violence tax" is necessary because violent crime is threatening to bankrupt Chicago by crowding the city's jails and hospitals.
According to city accountants, it costs Chicago $143 a day to jail alleged criminals and $52,000, on average, to treat a gunshot victim who does not have insurance. It costs the city's police department, on average, $400,000 to investigate a homicide when you add in law enforcement resources and court proceedings.
As a result of the costs associated with escalating violence, there is a projected $115 million deficit in Chicago's proposed $3 billion 2013 budget.
ream more here >> http://www.outdoorlife.com/blogs/gun-shots/2012/10/chicago-proposes-violence-tax-gun-and-ammunition-sales
$52K per gun shot victim and we have had well over 1,000 victims this year right? So there goes $52 million dollars. About the same amount of money it takes to build you a Maggie Daley Memorial Park tribute.
On the other hand $400K to investigate a homicide, and we've had over 400 of them and that comes out to be $160 mil right? But we budget for some of that right. So we only have a $115 million dollar deficit as the story above says.
Proud to spend the money anywhere but by putting boots on the streets!
Gotta love the sarcasm at the end..
"Mushbrain (not his real name) won’t be able to kill an 8-year-old on a playground next year," writes Phil Kadner in The South Town Star on Oct. 9. "That’s because he won’t be able to pay the tax on the bullets he needs to load his gun."
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This violence tax on ammo is kind-a like taxpayers paying for a park and then being told to get out of it, that the park has a curfew -- some would argue.
The mayor didn't pay for that park, the people did.
Point being in either case the law abiding people are being taxed and punished for the actions of the criminals. We get taxes and their drug transactions go on tax free.
No-one is cleaning the park, doing maintenance from midnight to daybreak. The only time anything like that occurred is when the mayor tore up the runways at Meigs field.
Not a single one of these gun laws has stopped the violence in Chicago. The politicians have illegally disarmed us and made us sitting ducks for crime.
i must be lost on something
the streetlightmarksman talks about
a "philosophy" which means a study of
fundalmental problems
how is cutting CAPS philosophical?
you need info right?
the program isn't dead i would guess
if your still having meetings
remeber those officers are there so $ still being spent on CAPS because of the time not going to stand there for free i'm willing to bet more "good" comes out of a CAPS meeting then the Million they spent on CEASEFIRE/CUREVIOLENCE ever did
at 1/10th the cost and you could actually document the effect
did CPD actually get any progress at all with CEASEFIRE?solve any cases?i'd like to hear where
also i would like to know this
what should be the ratio of police to lets say 100,000 people i read here CPD is only 8500 people and obvilously not all are on the "street" how many should there be?
CAPS has been a joke sine the day it implemented. It was more "feel good" BS for the public and a pain in the ass for the cops involved. All it did was provide yet another a cushy landing space for "heavy" do-nothings...
police nurses? get rid of them do they even have guns?
Oh no! Now where are the bosses going to put the house cats that work CAPS? Are there going to be more POs tripping overselves back on the desk?
I know of some females who have not worked the street their whole career, desk, Caps, office, station security. Well if Caps ends it would be nice to see these dollies on the street and see what being the police is about.
CAPS is dead. Was it ever alive?
You know, I'm really sorry that holt lost his son to some senseless violence. But I fail to see how that makes (made?) him qualified to run CAPS or be the director of anything. And now that CAPS is in hospice, I suppose it would be safe to assume that he will get a director salary in some other bs spot in dept? Meanwhile, coppers chase their tales from one call to the next with no relief in sight.
Ok , so put more do nothing civilians in a district ? If caps budget is eliminated then all civilians should be fired !
hand out the boxes of kleenex quick because the crying should commence shortly---" oh no, you mean I have to go back out on the street and work a car for 8.5 hours--- when will I have time to do my nails and surf the web--- working 8.5 hours will be a shock to my system, I might have to hit the medical to get straight."
CAPS is the single biggest waste of money this Department will ever see. Tens, perhaps hundreds of millions of tax dollars wasted on a ridiculous idea. It's implimentation allowed people that had no idea how policing works have a say in how this Department alots manpower and polices it's citizens.
Don't worry about what will happen without CAPS. Nothing will change! Nobody will see a difference in how their neighborhood is policed. The only difference will be the political army it financed will have to find another way to steal your tax dollars.
Compstat is a program too
017 1st watch on a friday night--- 3 primary beat cars and wagon down because their are no bodies to put in them--- this has been going on for the whole year but no bid spots opening up in 017 and 016 is just as bad--- 2 more bodies going to the detail unit for 12/13 th periods--- 2 promoted to sgt--- 13 on 2nd watch going on furlo 13th period and officers will be pulled from 1st/3rd watch to cover--- officer safety is being compromised and if an officer is seriously injured because nobody is available to come and help them an OSHA beef will be forthcoming--- copies of the sheets for all 3 watches for the past 3 years are documented and will be readily available for viewing--- the drawdown in manpower across all 3 watches is shocking....
Well hopefully you get a couple more bodies on the watch when this nonsense is finally s-canned.
OT: http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicago-crime-mounted-unit-burglary-20121027,0,3902066.story
Stop making fun of the "Shot Spooters". Sure, it's the third time we spent money on them and they have never caught a single offender shooting a gun. If we can catch just one drunken Superintendent 'shooten' out a street light, it will be money well spent this time.
We used to have CAPS, it was called "Neighborhood Relations" and it worked well. A Sgt and one or two POs took care of all the little things that people complained about and it worked. That Sgt also supervised all the inside civilians and the inside POs.
Richard II went balls out on this around 1992, how many millions were pissed away on coloring books and decals?
The Superintendent can think what he wants, but I am the CAPS Director!
-Ron Holt
This must be where the "legitimacy" bs will fill the void, SCC. You know the lesson plan for po's to mold the minds of the citizendry to believing and accepting the star and uniform are real. So real that those that wear them might have the authority/powers to affect arrests and actually have the right to tell citizendry to knock it off, when their acting like baffoons. Soon CPD will be held responsible for the lack of cooperation and absorption of said "legitimacy lesson plan" by citizendry to adhere to that plan. Much like the teachers @cps. Get a group of students who are not fed, have no sleep, mom is knocked out in bed after a day of indulgences, dad is "who", lil reese just got shot and kilt next door and no one is "talking", flaming hot cheetos and purple juice are brain food, laundry hasnt been done in months, stove is used as a furnace and dirty pot holder and then expect a teacher to apply said lesson plan to 35 of these little individuals, through no fault of their own, are almost damaged beyond repair.
Now CPD is being given the adult "legitimacy" lesson plan, where the tools were given to you,in an 8 hr segment, to change the hearts and mind of segments of society, bred in the above reality. A 45 year social experiment gone completely awry. The community will not be responsible for their behaviors, YOU ARE! If the citizens on your over extended, one manned beat, refuse to be team players and act a fool, you are responsible for not applying said "legitimacy" lesson plan. Obviously, your not POLICEy enough and you've lost pookie and mookie who are still on the street thug level of the new legitimacy paradigm. CAPS was a good idea that given to the powers that be ruined it.
Po's already know without the community, all is lost. Po's already develope relationships with merchants, the kids and parents in their neighborhoods, know all the street thugs. When given beats and assignments are more then willing to accept the challenge.
They are just tired of no back up, from the media, from politicians/brass, ASA apathy and empathy with criminals and the citizendry that wants CPD to fight crime and get rid of the urban terrorist, then always questions, the methods by which it is done. CAPS... buh.. bye! Hopefully, this bs "legitimacy" goes the same way. If the public doesn't get a lifetime course in "legitamacy"from their parents, clergy, community and yes even the MSM, all will be lost. Po's cant be stuck holding the bag for a communities ills, if the community likes being sick. Thank you SCC, CPD, CFD, CTU for "bringing it" everday, stay blessed.
I think that should be an exclamation point after Finally.CAPS DEAD? FINALLY!!!!!!!!!!!
Ha Ha ..all those "special" po's that have been hiding out in the craps office may actually have to go out and hoof it in a beatcar..karma's a bitch..funny how in 020 one of the caps coordinators doesn't even know the beats when she comes to the meetings..very sad indeed
If it is eliminated, can we take the stupid CAPS stars off our squad cars? I don't want to be seen as an alternative to anything.
And why exactly do they have to keep Ron Holt on the payroll of the city. Didn't he retire?
Will Obama release his transcripts and Donate $5,000,000 to Red Cross for relief for Hurricane Sandy victims ? Democrats want to take away cpd penions and health and Redistribute that money to the non working folks and illegals in sanctuary city of chitcawgo .
No Death penalty in Illinois . 2 % income tax in illinois , high gas prices , thanks to our democRats in illinois .
It's about time. they were useless anyway
Can we now remove those stupid decals off the cars?
If the budget line is zero, then their salary must have been placed somewhere in that save budget. The Supt's office has to answer where it went.
And what exactly is Holt qualified to do?
CAPS is like the scary movie where the bad guy is never quite dead...TO BE CONTINUED!!!
CAPS is like a bad penny. Or a brown dollar.
CAPS is like a Red Light Ticket in the mail.
CAPS is like the warm water in the pool.
CAPS is like when you smell dog shit and you look at your shoe and say, "aww shit, it's me!"
CAPS is like that guy that always whispers know-it-all shit to you when somebody else is talking...WITH BAD BREATH!
CAPS is like talking shit for about your watch commander in intricate detail to an outside unit, then realizing you had an open key on your radio and your camera recorded the whole the thing.
CAPS is like an Inspector at a watch party.
CAPS is like kissing your sister...on occasion you're called upon to do it, but it doesn't feel quite right.
CAPS is like a snow day when you have the flu.
CAPS is that hot drunk chick hitting on you, in front of your wife.
CAPS is that hot drunk chick hitting on other guys in front of you and it IS your wife.
Correction: CAPS is like your wife.
CAPS is like enjoying that last bite of a delicious breakfast and seeing a hair on your plate.
CAPS is like winning an all-inclusive vacation...in Hurricane Sandy.
CAPS is like taking your car for grease and oil and getting told, " We're downing it for electrical." And getting a shitty pool car with no air/no heat(adjust for season).
CAPS is like being a lifelong CUBS fan and finally getting to see them in the playoffs to catch a foul ball. (SB)
CAPS is like preparing your whole life to be an astronaut/ famous actor/ Olympic champion only to have a budget cut/ leaked stolen hidden video/ boycott/ devastating injury ruin your dream. (Mix and match as needed)
CAPS is dead. LONG LIVE CAPS!
You live on Beat ______. Your next CAPS meeting is Never.
Mister BodyBag.
that is a good thing for the Department during these hard economic times.
Its good to see these "Sworn Members", in the CAPS office; actually put on a complete Uniform:
Crown hat, duty belt with a working flash light, prescribed weapon or alternate prescribed weapon, not some saturday night special revolver, two magazines or two speed loaders, complete outer garments, etc
Come out of your sesne of entitlement and join us in the mess were in, were in a RAP, time due denied, no time on the end, 30 minute lunch breaaks, teo personals, case report, contact cards, movers, parkers, anovs, court, etc!
The caps program is full of shit. The caps people sit at there desks and play video games and shop on line and go out for two hour lunches then they go shopping.
New person in charge of CAPS will be Felicia Davis.
She is now part of Rahm's "senior staff"
Felicia Davis, First Deputy Chief of Staff
Felicia Davis served the Chicago Police Department for 10 years as a police officer, detective, and CAPS instructor. As an officer, Davis won awards for her performance and demonstrated exceptional bravery under fire. As a detective, Davis served in the Violent Crimes section and was responsible for coordinating the Detective Divisions Community Policing Strategies as Area Information Coordinator. She is currently the Vice President of Administration at Kendall College, where she oversees the College's operations and administration.
Can someone please tell me why there are 2 Commanders in 019th District?
So where will all those inside folks go? Most are too scared for street duty. Will they bounce the desk crews?
Perhaps we are an exception to the rule, but I live in beat 1313 and we have great CAPS facilitator and beat cops who work well together and respond right away to concerns that are raised. The long time CAPS Sgt is very helpful and really seems to care and follows up on issues right away. So for us, CAPS works. I'll be sorry if we lose it.
Do not celebrate yet. The CAPS Officers will be placed in a do nothing spot. Yes, they can be the dumbest--most retarded, incompetent people you have ever met. But they will impress the even dumber supervisors. These officers who could not function on their own will be sent to headquarters or to the academy. They will join the other dumb people in the academy. (This is how you end up with ideas like the "Legitimacy" project.)
07:23 Just wishful thinking on your part. The DC will find someplace to hide them again, they will never hit the beat car
Did anyone notice that even an aldercreature is smart enough to notice the supernintendo is making uo numbers and passing them off as facts? If you read the article, munoz, I think, asks the super for the data when he said we are at full strength. Obviously he cant produce it so he makes up something about a process. If an aldercreature can start seeing that rahm and mcarthy are full of shit and making stuff up, we can only hope that the media finally follows.
And as to filing an OSHA complaint when an officer gets hurt, it aint gonna happen. Illinois is not an OSHA state. We have to depend on the state investigating the incident and good luck with that.
09:07 No OSHA beef forthcoming. Article in paper today says Chicago has more police per capita than any other big city. The CPD can put the po's where they deem necessary, even if its the front office and CAPS
where will commanders hide all the caps house cats , sgts and po's
most afraid of their shadow
just like alderman , 311 can do the job of alderman and caps
Chicago could work more efficiently with 12 alderman
doesn't 1 aldercreature spend most time in DC
Caps, ceasefire, gang audits, gang this, circle jerks with families of gang bangers
GET THIS THROUGH YOUR HEAD MCRAHM
NOTHING except MORE police and a fully staffed 300-500+ city wide unit is the ONLY thing that stops the murders/shootings.
The police that appear on chicago fire NBC, are they extras? If so they should boycott appearances based on principle. Each of the first 3 episodes have portrayed the police in a very bad light.
************
Calm down killer. It's just a show.
Anonymous said...
017 1st watch on a friday night--- 3 primary beat cars and wagon down because their are no bodies to put in them--- this has been going on for the whole year but no bid spots opening up in 017 and 016 is just as bad--- 2 more bodies going to the detail unit for 12/13 th periods--- 2 promoted to sgt--- 13 on 2nd watch going on furlo 13th period and officers will be pulled from 1st/3rd watch to cover--- officer safety is being compromised and if an officer is seriously injured because nobody is available to come and help them an OSHA beef will be forthcoming--- copies of the sheets for all 3 watches for the past 3 years are documented and will be readily available for viewing--- the drawdown in manpower across all 3 watches is shocking....
Well hopefully you get a couple more bodies on the watch when this nonsense is finally s-canned.
10/28/2012 09:07:00 AM
Dude you sound like a pussy. I'll file an OSHA complaint? SERIOUSLY?????
How about you grow a pair of balls? I know many officers in 017 & 016. On the one hand they are shorthanded but on the other hand they continue to bring in activity and run from one job to another. So in the end who is to blame? So obviously you are not really shorthanded.
Holt losses his kid to gun violence & somehow he's qualified to be the Director of CAPS, wear the gold & collect a pension of a gold star - he ought to be ashamed of himself! Used his kids death to self promote as long as he carries the company (Daley) water...not voicing his true thoughts & opinions on gun violence & his sons death. I'll keep my kids healthy & put in 20 as a beat cop anyday. Shame on you Mr.Holt!
CAPS is and has always been a joke
this is from june7/2011
concerning ron holt
instresting how the city turns on it own
http://www.chicagonow.com/and-the-ordinary-people-said/2011/06/the-abandonment-of-ronald-holt-to-remain-director-of-chicagos-caps-program/
Yet another failure by the legend in his own mind terry hillard. this friggin guy was piece of crap from day one! and now he's getting richer thru his BS consulting firm.
all training should be done via stream video there should be no one taken from the district to sit for 8hours of bull shit it's time for the department to used those lazy officers back on the beat enough of this no man power and no time due allowed wtf. I am surprise that Rahm had not fired the supt of police this man is a idiot and don't give a rat's ass about humans knowing this i hope that next mayor election some one who has brains can take over .
That's 4 million right hmm wonder where that money is going.
No worries in 003. They will just make a 3rd & 4th xo secretary. Maybe put them on the front office with the other 5 officers. No wait, a few more gang intelligence officers because we can all see how much the violence in the district has gone down since that started. Well if all else fells a 3rd prevent violence team. Duh I got it, they can sit on our ever growing list of fixed posts. I mean sure it's only 4 posts now, plus the 4-5 in the box but I'm sure we can add a couple of more to have cars just sit on all day.
Anonymous said...
DAMN!!!! Just heard the 14th Dist Commander is returning to work soon. Boy the mood has changed everyone seems so sad :(
10/28/2012 12:30:00 AM
Did she ever take time for getting her snubbie stolen from the glove box of her squad car? Is that the way to properly secure your weapon?
and meantime, Ramsey is still the Philly chief, right? Hahahaha.
There were one or two parts of CAPS that I always thought were good, including beat meetings in places where enough people cared to attend.
The best reform of all is reducing the reliance on the 911 calls to steer the bulk of the department on activities. I suspect that they will still have meetings at least from time to time, and in some but not all beats.
Community policing is not a program! This fad had been shot down by PD's all over the country. If there was real leadership here, it would be done like most other places. Regular beat officers controlling a beat folder and *gasp* actually knowing what is going down on the beat. God forbid you take five minutes to communicate between watches. Not everything makes the WC's log.
It's official arbitrator Benn just f***ed the LTs. He ruled in favor of the city. What a surprise. Time to take his name out of the mix.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
"And what exactly is Holt qualified to do?"
10/28/2012 11:23:00 AM
uh, nothing......
CAPS is like Lazarus!
from detective to caps director
it's da chicago way
what a joke
Jfled and garry mac can't demand that Chicago Police Officers do Police work , in a beat car protecting the great citizens of Chicago and hire civilians to do paper work
Before cpd hires one person all the office cowards , working short hours should be back in a beat car
if garry mac can't find them , put a beat officer in charge , the beat officer knows where the bodies are in every district and Homan square
Caps is dead? Just when it was fixin to turn our lives around.
Well what about Beth Ford, the civilian who has been with CAPS since the beginning, a total joke, she totaled out a take home unmarked some years ago, falling down DUI, it disapperred but she didn't. What a Joke.
Is there a CAPS program in 016? Lived here, at various addresses, my whole life, never seen it in action...
Am I still allowed to wear my CAPS award ribbon & carry my lunch within my CAPS nylon zipper tote bag?
Anonymous said...
Holt losses his kid to gun violence & somehow he's qualified to be the Director of CAPS, wear the gold & collect a pension of a gold star - he ought to be ashamed of himself! Used his kids death to self promote as long as he carries the company (Daley) water...not voicing his true thoughts & opinions on gun violence & his sons death. I'll keep my kids healthy & put in 20 as a beat cop anyday. Shame on you Mr.Holt!
10/28/2012 02:58:00 PM
No! Shame on YOU for your thoughtless and ignorant post. You are a POS!
Anonymous said...
Do not celebrate yet. The CAPS Officers will be placed in a do nothing spot. Yes, they can be the dumbest--most retarded, incompetent people you have ever met. But they will impress the even dumber supervisors. These officers who could not function on their own will be sent to headquarters or to the academy. They will join the other dumb people in the academy. (This is how you end up with ideas like the "Legitimacy" project.)
10/28/2012 01:03:00 PM
Hey, Dickhead ... I was never a big fan of CAPS but some of the community policing folks really helped us on the street when we needed shit. It's assholes like you that paint everyone with the same brush that make us all look like jerks. STFU and go back to your mommy's basement.
Anonymous said...
017 1st watch on a friday night--- 3 primary beat cars and wagon down because their are no bodies to put in them--- this has been going on for the whole year but no bid spots opening up in 017 and 016 is just as bad--- 2 more bodies going to the detail unit for 12/13 th periods--- 2 promoted to sgt--- 13 on 2nd watch going on furlo 13th period and officers will be pulled from 1st/3rd watch to cover--- officer safety is being compromised and if an officer is seriously injured because nobody is available to come and help them an OSHA beef will be forthcoming--- copies of the sheets for all 3 watches for the past 3 years are documented and will be readily available for viewing--- the drawdown in manpower across all 3 watches is shocking....
Well hopefully you get a couple more bodies on the watch when this nonsense is finally s-canned.
10/28/2012 09:07:00 AM
Dude you sound like a pussy. I'll file an OSHA complaint? SERIOUSLY?????
How about you grow a pair of balls? I know many officers in 017 & 016. On the one hand they are shorthanded but on the other hand they continue to bring in activity and run from one job to another. So in the end who is to blame? So obviously you are not really shorthanded.
10/28/2012 02:56:00 PM
I want to add something else. One time in my district we were really short. We go to a domestic in which the offender is still on scene. The victim and complainant wishes to sign a complaint. My partner tries to "smooth things over" and to persuade her not to press charges. I asked him "why did you try doing that, that is an arrest". He replied "oh we are short tonight and so we can't afford to be down on an arrest in the station". I told him "well that is stupid. we should not make dysfunction function".
Remember folks, do your job like you are trained to. Even if your district is short on man power. DO NOT MAKE DYSFUNCTION FUNCTION.
No worries in 003. They will just make a 3rd & 4th xo secretary. Maybe put them on the front office with the other 5 officers. No wait, a few more gang intelligence officers because we can all see how much the violence in the district has gone down since that started. Well if all else fells a 3rd prevent violence team. Duh I got it, they can sit on our ever growing list of fixed posts. I mean sure it's only 4 posts now, plus the 4-5 in the box but I'm sure we can add a couple of more to have cars just sit on all day.
10/28/2012 03:37:00 PM
One day one of these do-nothing cars is going to get ambushed by these fuckers and someones head will be on the chopping block.
003 can have a car on every other block and it won't do anything. Officers have had foot chases w/ guns right past 65 and Drexel.
"What this really means is that once again in "good" neighborhoods CAPS will go away and that money will be funneled elsewhere."
Is there any more CAPS money? Surely the feds stopped funding it years ago.
Does whatever funding that exists for the program just come out of the police budget? Is it even a line item?
Anonymous said...
It's official arbitrator Benn just f***ed the LTs. He ruled in favor of the city. What a surprise. Time to take his name out of the mix.
10/28/2012 04:13:00 PM
Yep he is afraid he will lose his job, that is what happens when you only rely of source of income and afraid the city won't use him. He was warned by city to rule in there favor or they will recluse him for further WORK. TIME TO GET RID OF HIM. We someone with balls.
I just loved the first time they handed out "CAPS" rulers at the beat meetings. I took a double take when I saw one. It measured 12 1/4 inches . . . LOL I still have about a dozen of them in the tool box. I think the others were handed out to the contractors of the new stations.
There is another one in caps at headquarters making 6 figures to do nothing. Holt is her boss.
Her dead policeman brother is the reason this civilian is employed by cpd. She recently ran for office but lost. This is one disgusting trend that must stop, hiring people because of a death.
Sound taps for CAPS!
please down cars to protect gangbangers.
caps, we do it everyday anyway,just another way to hide do nothings.
Well what about Beth Ford, the civilian who has been with CAPS since the beginning, a total joke, she totaled out a take home unmarked some years ago, falling down DUI, it disapperred but she didn't. What a Joke.
10/28/2012 05:39:00 PM
She also mentioned she had no valid driver's license at the time.
The 003rd district will give those bust out officers a foot post because they are entitled. How about officer vc the m/6 who is afraid of his own shadow, they are hiding him at the area. Hey guys, keep carrying the weight for xo kenny j , while he takes care of his favorites. HaHa!!!
"Nothing has been changed, so to speak," says CAPS director Ron Holt.
"We don't know where they're going to fit per se," Wysinger said.
These two quotes say it all. Read between the lines. It's a decrease in the increase in CAPS.
Do not celebrate yet. The CAPS Officers will be placed in a do nothing spot. Yes, they can be the dumbest--most retarded, incompetent people you have ever met. But they will impress the even dumber supervisors. These officers who could not function on their own will be sent to headquarters or to the academy. They will join the other dumb people in the academy. (This is how you end up with ideas like the "Legitimacy" project.)
10/28/2012 01:03:00 PM
Hey, Dickhead ... I was never a big fan of CAPS but some of the community policing folks really helped us on the street when we needed shit. It's assholes like you that paint everyone with the same brush that make us all look like jerks. STFU and go back to your mommy's basement.
10/28/2012 06:09:00 PM
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I do not live with mom. And I will not STFU. You are a knuckle dragging inbred with generations of inbreeding. The scary part is that you probably have kids.
To:
10/28/2012 06:13:00 PM
Sometimes you have to make it work.
PO's safety is always more important. Keep more of us on the street on busy nights for 10-1's
DAMN!!!! Just heard the 14th Dist Commander is returning to work soon. Boy the mood has changed everyone seems so sad :(
Don't worry, her days are numbered.
Keep givin these rats more stuff see what happens! Its wrong, now give me a crave case of White Castle.
This must be where the "legitimacy" bs will fill the void, SCC. You know the lesson plan for po's to mold the minds of the citizendry to believing and accepting the star and uniform are real. So real that those that wear them might have the authority/powers to affect arrests and actually have the right to tell citizendry to knock it off, when their acting like baffoons. Soon CPD will be held responsible for the lack of cooperation and absorption of said "legitimacy lesson plan" by citizendry to adhere to that plan. Much like the teachers @cps. Get a group of students who are not fed, have no sleep, mom is knocked out in bed after a day of indulgences, dad is "who", lil reese just got shot and kilt next door and no one is "talking", flaming hot cheetos and purple juice are brain food, laundry hasnt been done in months, stove is used as a furnace and dirty pot holder and then expect a teacher to apply said lesson plan to 35 of these little individuals, through no fault of their own, are almost damaged beyond repair.
Now CPD is being given the adult "legitimacy" lesson plan, where the tools were given to you,in an 8 hr segment, to change the hearts and mind of segments of society, bred in the above reality. A 45 year social experiment gone completely awry. The community will not be responsible for their behaviors, YOU ARE! If the citizens on your over extended, one manned beat, refuse to be team players and act a fool, you are responsible for not applying said "legitimacy" lesson plan. Obviously, your not POLICEy enough and you've lost pookie and mookie who are still on the street thug level of the new legitimacy paradigm. CAPS was a good idea that given to the powers that be ruined it.
Po's already know without the community, all is lost. Po's already develope relationships with merchants, the kids and parents in their neighborhoods, know all the street thugs. When given beats and assignments are more then willing to accept the challenge.
They are just tired of no back up, from the media, from politicians/brass, ASA apathy and empathy with criminals and the citizendry that wants CPD to fight crime and get rid of the urban terrorist, then always questions, the methods by which it is done. CAPS... buh.. bye! Hopefully, this bs "legitimacy" goes the same way. If the public doesn't get a lifetime course in "legitamacy"from their parents, clergy, community and yes even the MSM, all will be lost. Po's cant be stuck holding the bag for a communities ills, if the community likes being sick. Thank you SCC, CPD, CFD, CTU for "bringing it" everday, stay blessed.
Yawn.......blah,blah,blah. Your post is too long. Boring!
CAPS is...
never having to say your sorry.
Ram Manual will find private donors to keep CAPS alive.
"It is alive! My creature is ALIVE!!"
I've been around a long time. 9 different Superintendent's. They've all got a program that's going to put an end to crime. CAPS was a Daley/Rodriguez plan. It's run it's course. McArrogance is Compstat. That'll give way to some other revolutionary plan that will end crime some day as well. That's how Mayors get elected and Supt.s get selected...revolutionary new plans to end the violence. Except the violence never ends and never will. It's all socio/economic/political and really has very little to do with the police. We just hold the line. "And the beat goes on..."
Is there a CAPS program in 016? Lived here, at various addresses, my whole life, never seen it in action...
Yes, if your question is serious, 016 has a CAPS program.
Is there any more CAPS money? Surely the feds stopped funding it years ago.
Does whatever funding that exists for the program just come out of the police budget? Is it even a line item?
Regardless of how it is funded if we are using manpower it costs us bodies. Even if it is not a line item if we are putting officers there it is in the budget somewhere.
Some of you sound like the biggest and most ignorant jerks and I'm ashamed you're police officers. I don't work in CAPS but to assume that every person that works in that office does nothing or is afraid of their own shadow is idiotic. How about getting a life and worrying about yourself and your job and quit worrying about what someone else is doing. To the cruel person who made those comments about Mr. Holt, I hope you never have to feel the pain of losing a family member in such a painful, tragic way. That kid died saving a friend. He did more on that bus than you probably have your whole career. If his father took a position that he feels can make a difference based on the tragedy he lived through, good for him. Look at yourself really close in the mirror, because you are a poor excuse for a human being for making a comment like that about his son.
...DON"T MAKE DYSFUNCTION FUNCTION
conjunction junction whats your function?
Can someone please tell me why there are 2 Commanders in 019th District?
10/28/2012 12:13:00 PM
There is a D/C and an XO. The D/C was on furlough, the XO was the acting D/C.
CAPS was a decent program in the beginning.. there were many aspects to it and they did alot of work that the beat officers didnt have to do. Since they reorganized and went from 8 to 2 officers.. The CAPS staff still had to do the same amount of work with fewer people. They have also been bombarded with bullshit work that CIVILIAN CAPS people have created to keep their 6 figure jobs afloat. There has always been a clash of power as the Civilians have tried to tell the CAPS officers how and what to do. Without CAPS and Neighborhood Relations, the undermanned and understaffed officers on the streets will have to do more of the bullshit behind the scenes stuff.
DAMN!!!! Just heard the 14th Dist Commander is returning to work soon. Boy the mood has changed everyone seems so sad :(
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Don't worry, her days are numbered.
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HEY McCarthy!!!
NO ONE is doing any police work in 014 BECAUSE of this crazy commander AND BAT SHIT CRAZY lieutenant D.H. on the 3rd watch!!
Please do something!
PLEASE!!!
Hey, Dickhead ... I was never a big fan of CAPS but some of the community policing folks really helped us on the street when we needed shit. It's assholes like you that paint everyone with the same brush that make us all look like jerks. STFU and go back to your mommy's basement.
10/28/2012 06:09:00 PM
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I do not live with mom. And I will not STFU. You are a knuckle dragging inbred with generations of inbreeding. The scary part is that you probably have kids.
10/28/2012 09:47:00 PM
Wow ... really intelligent comeback. Now I KNOW you live with mommy in that basement.
Some of you guys are really assholes, with all of these bs comments about your fellow officers. CAPS was a mandated program thru the department. Someone had to fill those spots. Sounds to me like most of you who are making these negative comments are pissed because you weren't picked to do the job. The asshole making the comments about the CAPS officers in 003. Go fuck yourself. I''ll bet every officer in that office has done more police work from the office than you have done your whole career. Do you ass wipes realize how many times the CAPS officers or Sgt. gets you abusing fucks out of CR's because you have violated someone's rights? I''ll bet not one of you are man enough to got your scary ass from hiding behind the computer and confront one of these officers face to face. You won't even confront one of the female officers. STFU!!!!!!
Will Obama release his transcripts and Donate $5,000,000 to Red Cross for relief for Hurricane Sandy victims ? Democrats want to take away cpd penions and health and Redistribute that money to the non working folks and illegals in sanctuary city of chitcawgo .
No Death penalty in Illinois . 2 % income tax in illinois , high gas prices , thanks to our democRats in illinois .
10/28/2012 10:48:00 AM
You do know that more than half of cash donations to that organization goes towards salaries and not to the victims. That's why I stopped donating to them.
Yet another failure by the legend in his own mind terry hillard. this friggin guy was piece of crap from day one! and now he's getting richer thru his BS consulting firm.
10/28/2012 03:13:00 PM
Actually, it started under Matt Rodriguez's watch
Anonymous said...
Holt losses his kid to gun violence & somehow he's qualified to be the Director of CAPS, wear the gold & collect a pension of a gold star - he ought to be ashamed of himself! Used his kids death to self promote as long as he carries the company (Daley) water...not voicing his true thoughts & opinions on gun violence & his sons death. I'll keep my kids healthy & put in 20 as a beat cop anyday. Shame on you Mr.Holt!
10/28/2012 02:58:00 PM
No! Shame on YOU for your thoughtless and ignorant post. You are a POS!
Agreed. Some things are just off limits!
Some of you sound like the biggest and most ignorant jerks and I'm ashamed you're police officers. I don't work in CAPS but to assume that every person that works in that office does nothing or is afraid of their own shadow is idiotic. How about getting a life and worrying about yourself and your job and quit worrying about what someone else is doing. To the cruel person who made those comments about Mr. Holt, I hope you never have to feel the pain of losing a family member in such a painful, tragic way. That kid died saving a friend. He did more on that bus than you probably have your whole career. If his father took a position that he feels can make a difference based on the tragedy he lived through, good for him. Look at yourself really close in the mirror, because you are a poor excuse for a human being for making a comment like that about his son.
10/28/2012 11:25:00 PM
ROUND OF APPLAUSE
Emanuel's press office just released a hint about the runt's newest plan he calls his NEW approach to "community outreach".
The new intitiative is called the Youth Intervention Department. The officers assigned there will be charged with the function of identifying, contacting and mentoring young people before they get involved with gangs.
Yes folks, YID will be the new golden program offered up by Emanuel as his NEW strategy against violence.
Emanuel's YID. This one's just GOTTA work.
Hey, Dickhead ... I was never a big fan of CAPS but some of the community policing folks really helped us on the street when we needed shit. It's assholes like you that paint everyone with the same brush that make us all look like jerks. STFU and go back to your mommy's basement.
10/28/2012 06:09:00 PM
That's great that you actually had a CAPS staff that helped you out on the street a few times. They are FULL TIME cops working 8.5 hrs shifts. They're supposed to be out on the street EVERYDAY helping out, not just once or twice. CAPS was a waste from the outset. The Neighborhood Relations did that job before CAPS and they did it with alot fewer people.
It might be YOU that paints each CAPS unit with the same brush. Most I know don't do anything at all.
didnt terry hillard make his name on this white elephant? only he was dumb enough to think talking to baby mamas about they chillin' wasnt a total waste of time.
Anonymous said...
Some of you guys are really assholes, with all of these bs comments about your fellow officers. CAPS was a mandated program thru the department. Someone had to fill those spots. Sounds to me like most of you who are making these negative comments are pissed because you weren't picked to do the job. The asshole making the comments about the CAPS officers in 003. Go fuck yourself. I''ll bet every officer in that office has done more police work from the office than you have done your whole career. Do you ass wipes realize how many times the CAPS officers or Sgt. gets you abusing fucks out of CR's because you have violated someone's rights? I''ll bet not one of you are man enough to got your scary ass from hiding behind the computer and confront one of these officers face to face. You won't even confront one of the female officers. STFU!!!!!!
10/29/2012 07:21:00 AM
You must have more than 10 minutes on the job because everything you say is true. Thanks for sticking up for some good coppers.
Some of you guys are really assholes, with all of these bs comments about your fellow officers. CAPS was a mandated program thru the department. Someone had to fill those spots. Sounds to me like most of you who are making these negative comments are pissed because you weren't picked to do the job. The asshole making the comments about the CAPS officers in 003. Go fuck yourself. I''ll bet every officer in that office has done more police work from the office than you have done your whole career. Do you ass wipes realize how many times the CAPS officers or Sgt. gets you abusing fucks out of CR's because you have violated someone's rights? I''ll bet not one of you are man enough to got your scary ass from hiding behind the computer and confront one of these officers face to face. You won't even confront one of the female officers. STFU!!!!!!
The CAPS officers/Sgt haven't gotten me out of shit. Sgt JC was a great worker, CH, AB, LN ain't done shit remotely related to actual police work their entire career. MS did some work back in the days in between chasing women in the 30 sector. Don't know much about IR. I'm far from scary so tell me exactly who you are or want me to confront. Don't type shit unless you're absolutely sure your ass can back it the fuck up.
anyone know what CAPS has accomplished?....meaning, where do the stats (for 35th Street) really total up?....how many of.....exactly what? (except in the political bullshit and pissing government monies away categories)....
Some of you guys are really assholes, with all of these bs comments about your fellow officers. CAPS was a mandated program thru the department. Someone had to fill those spots. Sounds to me like most of you who are making these negative comments are pissed because you weren't picked to do the job. The asshole making the comments about the CAPS officers in 003. Go fuck yourself. I''ll bet every officer in that office has done more police work from the office than you have done your whole career. Do you ass wipes realize how many times the CAPS officers or Sgt. gets you abusing fucks out of CR's because you have violated someone's rights? I''ll bet not one of you are man enough to got your scary ass from hiding behind the computer and confront one of these officers face to face. You won't even confront one of the female officers. STFU!!!!!!
Really, the pos in the office has done more than everyone else??? Planning parties, basketball games, and selling hot dogs counst as work now??? Didn't one ride the desk on midnights for years? Didn't one "work" under EB before he retired? Does one do anything besides caps meetings and the old school vs new school basketball game? Get over yourself. You are non essential personnel at best. Cut your lunch down to an hr, hit a uniform store & come come join us running from job to job.
You must have more than 10 minutes on the job because everything you say is true. Thanks for sticking up for some good coppers.
10/29/2012 03:16:00 PM
thanks for the input, but the "good coppers" I know work the street and dont hide in an office counting paper clips, stapling pamphlets and getting merit promotions.
Hey, Dickhead ... I was never a big fan of CAPS but some of the community policing folks really helped us on the street when we needed shit. It's assholes like you that paint everyone with the same brush that make us all look like jerks. STFU and go back to your mommy's basement.
10/28/2012 06:09:00 PM
WOW!! How magnanimous of sworn officers to actually do some police work. Next thing you know they'll have to make an arrest once a decade. WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO??!!
anyone know what CAPS has accomplished?....meaning, where do the stats (for 35th Street) really total up?....how many of.....exactly what? (except in the political bullshit and pissing government monies away categories)....
10/29/2012 03:41:00 PM
Can I answer that office? It accomplished giving a soft landing to a whole slew of connected do-nothings...
The new CAPS is OPE. Felicia Davis is the head of Office of Public Engagement. watch Rahmit send out the press releases. They will shift all the millions cut from CAPS to this new department that will be centralized at Rahmits 5th floor office to control the political message, just like the KGB. The OPE will be making the payments for Ceasefire and friends. Copied straight from the White House. New name, new people, more jobs for Rahmits political machine but just like CAPS. All planned and ready to roll out for the masses.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
DAMN!!!! Just heard the 14th Dist Commander is returning to work soon. Boy the mood has changed everyone seems so sad :(
10/28/2012 12:30:00 AM
Did she ever take time for getting her snubbie stolen from the glove box of her squad car? Is that the way to properly secure your weapon?
10/28/2012 03:41:00 PM
That was the Commander of 020 and she never got in trouble for anything. From what we hear a report was made making it look like it was taken from her house not her vehicle.
Who is this ignorant knuckle head passing judgement on CAPS Officers in 003? Evidentially, you're bitter because 1, you used to work in CAPS and was kicked out or 2, you don't get respect from anyone. Also, if you wanna know about IR, come in to the office and inquire. I'm sure he'd be happy to tell you what he's done on the job. Whoever you are, if you claim to be a big dog, come on down off the porch and play with the other big dogs.
Emanuel's YID. This one's just GOTTA work.
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Needs a better acronym.
DARE is just as worthless as CAPS yet continues to get funded to the tune of billions over the years. Like having a short pep talk from a cop and a K9 visit will undo 24/7 bad parenting.
Who is this ignorant knuckle head passing judgement on CAPS Officers in 003? Evidentially, you're bitter because 1, you used to work in CAPS and was kicked out or 2, you don't get respect from anyone. Also, if you wanna know about IR, come in to the office and inquire. I'm sure he'd be happy to tell you what he's done on the job. Whoever you are, if you claim to be a big dog, come on down off the porch and play with the other big dogs.
10/30/2012 08:44:00 AM
"Come down off the porch and play with the big dogs?" Well at least you have the dog part right. Sorry, I dont have time to sit around an office, My partner and I are busy answering calls and being the police, not hiding in an office afraid to hit the street.
Anonymous said...
Holt losses his kid to gun violence & somehow he's qualified to be the Director of CAPS, wear the gold & collect a pension of a gold star - he ought to be ashamed of himself! Used his kids death to self promote as long as he carries the company (Daley) water...not voicing his true thoughts & opinions on gun violence & his sons death. I'll keep my kids healthy & put in 20 as a beat cop anyday. Shame on you Mr.Holt!
10/28/2012 02:58:00 PM
I looked at my own son, changed his pamper and kissed him on his forehead and on his cheek...and I wanted to punch you in your face.
That man would give back every dime he's earned to have his son alive and crippled from that bullet as opposed to gone forever.
He'll never see his son again or know what he would have accomplished, what his grandchildren would have looked like and you make an insensitive comment like that.
His legacy isn't being the CAPS director. His legacy is that he's Blair Holt's father. How heartbreaking is that? You idiot you..
I will have to let my brother in law know about his.. HE'S NOT GOING TO BE HAPPY.. I use to attend the meetings when I lived in the city ..it was the best way to find out where the hot spots in your neighborhood are..
"...without CAPS, the officers on the streets will have to do a lot of the bullshit work..."
Please report to Random Drug Testing, 3510 S, Michigan Ave.
"...without CAPS, the officers on the streets will have to do a lot of the bullshit work..."
Please report to Random Drug Testing, 3510 S, Michigan Ave.
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What work?
I am going to miss the coloring books. I love to see if I can still color between the lines.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
Who is this ignorant knuckle head passing judgement on CAPS Officers in 003? Evidentially, you're bitter because 1, you used to work in CAPS and was kicked out or 2, you don't get respect from anyone. Also, if you wanna know about IR, come in to the office and inquire. I'm sure he'd be happy to tell you what he's done on the job. Whoever you are, if you claim to be a big dog, come on down off the porch and play with the other big dogs.
10/30/2012 08:44:00 AM
"Come down off the porch and play with the big dogs?" Well at least you have the dog part right. Sorry, I dont have time to sit around an office, My partner and I are busy answering calls and being the police, not hiding in an office afraid to hit the street.
10/30/2012 08:09:00 PM
And that's all you are good for, answering calls. You are pigeon holed, narrow minded and ignorant to what goes on in the department. You think all this department is about is answering calls? Wake up!!!! And I'm definitely not hiding buddy. I've had lotsa street activity. Dont get it twisted or tangled. I could get more arrests in a week than you anytime. With a search warrant on the side!
I think it is great that you love and adore your CAPS sergeant in 013, but in the real part of town, most of the residents are too worried about getting shot, robbed, burglarized, or car-jacked to concern themselves with issues like two wine-heads sharing a bottle on a park bench.
"...the community policing folks really helped us on the street when we needed shit..."
Really? I haven't seen one example of this. Please clarify.
The M/6 Officer who is VC?
VC means a whole different thing to us old-timers. The fact that he is asian makes it even funnier.
"...that's how he found out where the hot spots in his neighborhood were..."
Better advice---If there are hot spots in your neighborhood--MOVE!
OK---You changed your son's pampers and kissed him on his face.
You have the means to send your kid to a safe private school or send him to Julian.
Choose.
I agree that some things should be off-limits.
However, would Holt have gotten this job had his son lived?
He could have turned it down. Sorry---not off-limits.
Rahm Starts YID!
Youth Inter.....what?
Could it simply be short for Yiddish?
Former Caps 7th district Rep.Tom Young once said the most important Caps issue is the 1st and the 15th.
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