Pension Amendment Defeated
- Illinois voters rejected a proposed amendment to the state constitution that would have required a three-fifths vote, instead of a simple majority, for any public body to increase public pension benefits.
Some voters found the proposed change confusing and rejected the amendment 56 percent to 44 percent.
“It seemed like double-talk to me,” said Jim Chmura, 67, of Oak Park, who voted against it.
This will save us tens of millions in lawyer fights over the next few years.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
41 Comments:
Maybe they could put the money they would have to spend on a long court battle in our Fucking Pension Fund! Have Obama Prints some more money and throw it in there. Thats the least he could do since the morons put him back in office!
I earned my pension so all you politicians and voters can blow me.
Hey mike madigan Lisa is not your daughter she is in fact your step daughter.but you taught her well.....how to be rotten just like step papa....step on this. I still will get my pension you dickhead.
“It seemed like double-talk to me,” said Jim Chmura, 67, of Oak Park, who voted against it.
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67 years old and still thrown a curveball by what he perceives as 'double-talk'.
No doubt Jim Chmura of Oak Park has both spawned ignorant offspring and voted for Obama. Twice.
You know this country is sunk when a grown-assed man can't decipher basic English. At least his 50/50, take-a-wild-guess-and-pick-one-already chance was ultimately correct.
Fucking Sheeple never cease to amaze me.
Keep your eyes open, folks. Madigan & Company will soon be making another run at us.
A few months ago I seem to remember reading something where Madigan offered veiled threats, that there was other legislation that only required a simple majority. I can't find the article right now.
We've won this battle, but the war rages on!
rb
last night at 2330 hrs with 82% of the vote in it looked like it was going to pass.
I'm confused ... Was CA 49 rejected then ? ( voted no )?
You are welcome!!!
Not a cop, but I support my CPD.
We put an indicted scumbag back in office. We put a man that TELLS us he is mentally disturbed back in his seat. We kept every single thieving politician that is stealing from us back in a position to keep stealing from us. We didn't get rid of a single judge. Let's not pat ourselves on the back.
Middle class workers are screwed.
Rahm and Madigan are not done try to screw us out of our pensions. This is just the latest try and failure on their part. They will try again, you can put money on it.
And now that Madigan has a veto proof majority in the House and Senate you can bet that they will redouble their efforts.
More smoke and mirrors from Madigan, the Arch criminal of Il....
Thank you Illinois voters---for that
Madigan has a veto proof majority in the House and Senate. Look for more attacks on the pensions to come.
Defeated for now. Till the lame duck session starts! Then we r screwed!
Don't matter anyway. The pension funds will be broke. Thus, no checks in the mail.
"This will save us tens of millions in lawyer fights over the next few years."
Right on SCC.
Don't forget Rhams ($1 mil.) sponsored Illinois Supreme Court candidate who would ultimately rule in the Dem's favor anyway.
Thanks to all who voted against yet another attempt to rule and destroy our pensions.
Media expose'? > Cue the crickets <
Don't worry. They'll find another way to stick it to us.
shortshanks & the racoon eyed runt are already searching for back door access to the pension funds that they have been swindling for years .
How will the extended daley family survive ??????
You better believe in 2014, They will try again
Defeated for now. Asshole Madigan just got a veto override majority, which means he can on an obscure Sunday meeting, quietly make veto prove changes to pensions. Dream on brothers and sisters.
And a great shout out to the Teachers and their familys for helping defeat this Bogas Bill.
but Madigan and Emanuel will not stop there..Hey Rahm how about asking your Boss for a Bail Out......since you Demecrats under funded the pensions for the last 26 years under Daley. & Madigan. Its only 85 Billion Obama, how about bailing out your first Responders in, YOUR CITY, IN YOUR STATE. Since the king maker got you elected in 08 dont you owe us ????????
Funny thing is these politicians vote themselves big raises, benifits that big CEO's enjoy and even when asked if their own pension would be changed under this plan, they refused to touch it. So I'm glad, even though they tried to make it confusing as hell, it failed.....
But keep an eye open for them to keep trying... it's in their blood.
It makes no difference with the Democratic super majority they can do anything they want.
And now can OUR union stop endorsing Madigan for fucks sake? He has proven himself to be a snake time and time again.
Anonymous said...
Middle class workers are screwed.
11/08/2012 05:01:00 AM
There are no middle class workers. The new middle class is on SSI for their bi-polarness and pay for everything with their link cards. The Old middle class workers are the new LOWER middle class, that have to pay for everthing!!!!! We are the "New" Europe.....
I'm confused.
This was a major blow to madigan. WHY you ask? He is looking to dump the pension liability on the local governing bodies that have employees in the state fund.
1. If the local bodies cannot reduce the benefits, the transfer of the pension liabilites to the local governments will bankrupt school districts, cities and towns all across the state.
2. If the amendment passed, then the state would dump the pension liabilities and wipe off a lot of state debt *walla!* resulting in a better credit picture. The local school boards facing large tax increases or bankruptcy could vote with a 60 percent majority vote and REDUCE all pensions. Madigan could then say he was not responsible for the teachers etc. getting the fiscal ax! Madigan then gets credit for improving the state finance picture.
3. Now that the amendment didnt pass, the democrats can only blame themselves for the fiscal crisis since they control the state government and historically spent the state into crisis.
Are they (Madigan & Co) doing ANYTHING about the number of lobbyists who (not state or municipal employees) got to work for 1/2 day and "teach" only to grab into a pension fund and now are recipients of tax-funded pension retirements? ... six figures no less?? NO, they are going after the 1st responders,,,,shame on them. Thank God this was voted down.
Illinois politicians are money-grabbing fraud criminals who should all be prosecuted by the feds.
They voted for JJJ because his opponent was white. They are RACIST!
Anonymous said...
And a great shout out to the Teachers and their familys for helping defeat this Bogas Bill.
but Madigan and Emanuel will not stop there..Hey Rahm how about asking your Boss for a Bail Out......since you Demecrats under funded the pensions for the last 26 years under Daley. & Madigan. Its only 85 Billion Obama, how about bailing out your first Responders in, YOUR CITY, IN YOUR STATE. Since the king maker got you elected in 08 dont you owe us ????????
11/08/2012 12:45:00 PM
He's from Hawaii dude. He was in his twenties by the time he started living here. Lived on the west coast and then the east coast before becoming a "Chicagoan."
No pension, no pay, no work.
Rahm wants to not only get from behind the mandated by law funding mechanism taking effect in 2015.
(Gov. Chickenshit left a 3 year window open for the criminal-political class of Chicago & Illinois to enact counter-legislation)
There are A LOT of big Obama contributors and members of Daley Inc. and Rahm & Co. associates licking their chops at the possibility of a wholesale divesture and disposession of Chicago Policemen of their pension money.
Muni employees who are members of collective bargaining units?
Their pensions are the LAST of relatively unmolested pots of "free money" left in this country...
We can't wrap our heads around these fools wanting to take money from people with guns...
Hmmm...
They want to make sure that Coppers are loaded up on the boxcars headed to the soon coming American "work camps."
Can't have pissed off and disposessed Coppers well versed in Chicago style fuckery running around in the underbrush unchecked...
"Whither the Police and what are they doing? We must know..."
I earned my pension so all you politicians and voters can blow me.
11/08/2012 01:07:00 AM
What the hell good does it do you to "earn" a pension when there will be NO money left to pay it in just a few years. What will happen, a federal bailout of bankrupt states? Republicans still hold enough power to keep that from ever getting through congress.
SCC "Some voters found the proposed change confusing and rejected the amendment 56 percent to 44 percent."
Wrong, it wasn't rejected, it didn't pass because it needed 60% to pass (3/5 Yes votes).....therefore not rejected......
Either way though. happy day for something...
I voted no to all judges, I voted against Anita, I voted for any Republican listed in the ballot, I did not cast a vote to unchallenged candidates. Voted against the constitutional amendment. The only vote to bear fruit was the one against constitutional amendment only to discover Madigan has a veto prove majority. So now Madigan and Cullerton and Emmanuel can dance rings around Potato head's veto. There's no winning in this corrupt State.
10:04 You are 100% right. Better that it didnt pass and for the reason you said, but in reality 56% of the voters wanted it to pass. Politicians will be taking notice of that and continue to try and mess with the pension, especially in the lame duck session where those voted out will trade their vote for a job or appointment
Thank You my sweet JESUS!
Obama dont care. Did he ever play little league or sandlot baseball? Did he grow up in the US? Even if he grew up poor in the US, we could relate to him and he could relate to us, but the fact is he didnt.
Like someone with no attachments, he bought his love and approval.
He has no connection to growing up in Illinois, so dont expect a handout.
"He has no connection to growing up in Illinois, so dont expect a handout."
Probably true, but he owes a little something to the democratic machine for giving him Illinois.
He took only 23 of Illinois' 102 counties.
A by god constitutional amendment just to screw over the teachers!
wow
And no, guys, sometimes it's *not* all about you.
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