Thanksgiving Shooting
- A man who was attacking passengers and the driver of a CTA bus in the Marquette Park neighborhood was shot and Tasered by police after he tried to attack officers this afternoon, officials said.
The incident happened at about 4 p.m. as a California Avenue CTA bus was northbound near 63rd Street, said Patrick Camden, a spokesman for the Fraternal Order of Police Lodge 7.
The man, in his late 20s and who appeared to be impaired, began attacking several passengers on the bus, Camden said.
And exactly what is the purpose of throwing in the "appeared to be impaired" comment? Either he was or he wasn't and neither state precludes him from getting shot and Tasered by responding officers if they felt their life was in danger.
In any event, the Officer involved went home safe. That is what matters.
UPDATE: We heard the Camden clip and from what we remember, Camden didn't say anything except "the man began attacking several passengers." The "appeared to be impaired" part was added by the media after talking to witnesses. So all you Camden defenders, lighten up. We have teased the Orange One on occasion but he's doing good work for the FOP, and we've said so numerous times. We don't want Pat's job, so there's nothing for us to be jealous of. And we're already taller than him.
UPDATE: We heard the Camden clip and from what we remember, Camden didn't say anything except "the man began attacking several passengers." The "appeared to be impaired" part was added by the media after talking to witnesses. So all you Camden defenders, lighten up. We have teased the Orange One on occasion but he's doing good work for the FOP, and we've said so numerous times. We don't want Pat's job, so there's nothing for us to be jealous of. And we're already taller than him.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
56 Comments:
Glad the Officers are okay What calibre was he shot with?? Personally I like the 40 cal
Also on parole from Oct 2012
The liberal, Obama worshipping media is tacitly announcing that this savage has some variation of a mental impairment, thereby setting him up for an affirmative defense come trial time.
Ya see, reparations of the fiscal type aren't likely given the amount of entitlements he alraady receives and the pisspoor economy in general. Therefore it is imperative that the Brutha is on the receiving end of a "solid" in some other way, shape or form.
What a fucking mess! Glad the copper is ok!
Heads up
It appears residents from the pacific garden have been wonder around north side. More and more serious crime occurring in high taxed areas.
Fell asleep with the tv on...woke up long enough to catch the morning liberal bullshit...er the news I mean...teen girl returns from hospital that was shot in the head by 104 and Aberdeen...moms gets on the camera and says, "for the young kids, they need to do something about the guns because its just ra-dick-a-las".
Yes ma'am, it sure is ridiculous. It is ridiculous that these guns keep jumping up and shooting people all by themselves...oh wait that's not right. It is ridiculous that there is a culture that promotes violence and lack of personal responsibility. Look at your own community for the answers, not the police and not the government...won't someone please think of the children?!
I covered up my children, gave them a kiss on the head, and I'm back to bed. I did my part. Be safe out there and take care of each other.
What a fucking mess! Glad the copper is ok!
11/23/2012 02:30:00 AM
I don't see a mess. A dangerous career criminal was shot by police at a time when he needed to be shot. I feel bad for the copper. It's hard to do that for most.
This Pat Camden fella has to be the worst public relations person we ever had. Bring back Judy Weis.
You gotta be nuts to.use any CTA transportation.
Concealed Carry.Free up officers so they may assist those that cannot fight for themselves.
This is exactly why the orange one has no business commenting on a shooting five minutes after he shows up on a scene. Ipra had a policy where they made no comment at at all. And like them or not thats a good policy. Theres no reason to get our side of the story out. And when one day the Orange one says something thats totally wrong and is subpoenaed at the civil trial and costs a copper money we will see how many fans he still has.
Think you're being a little overly sensitive that the article (per Camden) says he was impaired? Its part of the story.
The solution plain and simple is to shoot and kill.
No lawsuits, no repeat offenders. And money saved in all aspects of the demise of the lawbreaker.
Good job officers!
Stay safe everyone.
Off Topic,SCC a couple of guys in the unit caught this, the City cheated all of us out of 50$. On page 34 in the contract book section 20.13 it states Effective on each of the following effective dates, all officers shall be paid the following quarterly amounts 1 Jan 11 755.00$ on 1 Jan 12 805.00$. We discovered that the City payed us 755.00 on 1 Jan 12, the last duty availability check 1 OCT 12 we should have 3220.00$ but when you look at the check stub it says 3170.00$. The city held 50$ from all of us. 9000 officers x 50$ =450,000.00$ thats a nice payday for the city. Please look into this..
Even Pacific Gardens residents know where the tolerant people live.
Now, Kees me you fool!!!!
Love the way the Slum-Times uses the phrase "holiday violence" so casually.
You know how it is: you got your holiday shopping, your holiday parties, and your holiday violence. Perfectly normal. Nothing to see here. Move along.
impaired seems pretty relevant to me. it may help explain why he was acting the way he was.
I bet it wasnt a .45 acp.
Offender was on Jesus Juice.....He almost met him too!!!! Too bad he didn't!!! Would have saved the taxpayers a lot of money. No more oxygen theft.
Maybe alot has to do with the following departments being at or above full strength.
From WJLA-DC:
The number of 2012 killings in the District of Columbia stands at 78 and is on pace to finish lower than 100 for the first time since 1963, police records show.
The drop reflects a downward trend in violent crime nationwide and is in line with declining homicides in other big cities. Though killings have risen in Chicago, New York City officials say homicides dropped to 515 last year from 2,262 in 1990. Houston police reported 198 homicides last year, down from 457 in 1985, while Los Angeles ended last year with fewer than 300 after reporting 1,092 in 1992. Across the country, violent crime reported by police to the FBI fell by 3.8 percent last year from 2010.
Read more: http://www.wjla.com/articles/2012/11/d-c-murder-numbers-down-to-record-lows-82386.html#ixzz2D5IRZfMC
"And we're already taller than him."
euphemistically speaking, i presume?
The solution plain and simple is to shoot and kill.
No lawsuits, no repeat offenders. And money saved in all aspects of the demise of the lawbreaker.
11/23/2012 08:12:00 AM
stop picking my brain.
please.
Chalkie
This Pat Camden fella has to be the worst public relations person we ever had. Bring back Judy Weis.
11/23/2012 07:13:00 AM
we're waiting for you to let the gimp out of his box.
I feel bad for the copper. It's hard to do that for most.
11/23/2012 05:23:00 AM
you get used to it, once you get the hang of it.
Chalkie
Hey mr .45 acp.......get off ur high horse. A suburban cop shot a bank robber twelve plus times center mass with .45 acp and the bad guy was still shooting back. The wounds were deadly but it takes time for blood pressure to drop. Bottom line is unless you hit brain stem or brain it's not like the movies. Some officers are better suited with eighteen 9mm rounds and thirty round extra mags. Especially if they place their shots more accurately and often.
As to the duty availability post, I believe it is paid in arrears, like our normal pay. So the new amount of $805 began to accrue on Jan. 1 and was paid on Apr. 1.
Now retired. Been there done that PLUS kids. Bite the bullet and collect yor pension in 10-15 or 20 yrs. If anything is left. BWHAHAHAHA. It will be all in the wind kids. BWAHAHAHAHA
Anonymous said...
Off Topic,SCC a couple of guys in the unit caught this, the City cheated all of us out of 50$. On page 34 in the contract book section 20.13 it states Effective on each of the following effective dates, all officers shall be paid the following quarterly amounts 1 Jan 11 755.00$ on 1 Jan 12 805.00$. We discovered that the City payed us 755.00 on 1 Jan 12, the last duty availability check 1 OCT 12 we should have 3220.00$ but when you look at the check stub it says 3170.00$. The city held 50$ from all of us. 9000 officers x 50$ =450,000.00$ thats a nice payday for the city. Please look into this..
Seriously you need to go back to grammar school . Dollar signs go before the numbers not after.
Stay thirsty my friends
Was the bus damaged?
Rahm
Why was the victim even shot!
why didn't the officer use verbal commands,a taser(first)!!! hand to hand combat,his baton or asp! pepper spray! black jack! handcuffs as a striking instrument! or just wait for backup and then take down the victim. WHY was it necessary to shot an unarmed victim and then ask questions?????????
Now I am only asking why wasn't any other means used prior to shooting this man..... please help me understand.
Hey, what happened to" take it to the bank, big changes on friday" man, I bin waitin, an.... nothin!
According to McTurkey its all the Pilgrims fault. Thanksgiving therefore is a celebration of racism
Thankfully this officer, working by himself, came through ok.
This could've been ugly.
Remember the poor officer who was working by himself up north and was taking a female nut job off the bus when she somehow got his gun and killed him? What is it with wacko's and mass transit?
Anonymous said...
Hey mr .45 acp.......get off ur high horse. A suburban cop shot a bank robber twelve plus times center mass with .45 acp and the bad guy was still shooting back. The wounds were deadly but it takes time for blood pressure to drop. Bottom line is unless you hit brain stem or brain it's not like the movies. Some officers are better suited with eighteen 9mm rounds and thirty round extra mags. Especially if they place their shots more accurately and often.
Hey Mr. Not on the job, never been in the shit. Thats a great quote from some gun magazine or some other shit you read or saw on some TV show. But from been where you have never been .45 acp at about 15 feet 3 times center mass DONE........... So STFU
Anonymous said...
Off Topic,SCC a couple of guys in the unit caught this, the City cheated all of us out of 50$. On page 34 in the contract book section 20.13 it states Effective on each of the following effective dates, all officers shall be paid the following quarterly amounts 1 Jan 11 755.00$ on 1 Jan 12 805.00$. We discovered that the City payed us 755.00 on 1 Jan 12, the last duty availability check 1 OCT 12 we should have 3220.00$ but when you look at the check stub it says 3170.00$. The city held 50$ from all of us. 9000 officers x 50$ =450,000.00$ thats a nice payday for the city. Please look into this..
Are you that dumb you don't know your contract!!!! BEGINNING 1 Jan 12 it's $805. The check you receive on 1 Jan 12 is for the previous quarter of Duty Availablity, so you recieved $755. BEGINNING 1 Jan 12 you receive $855, thats reflected on the next Duty Availaiblilty check. No wonder all you hair gels and young guys still can't figure things out.
OLD RETIRED INFORMED GUY !!
Think you're being a little overly sensitive that the article (per Camden) says he was impaired? Its part of the story.
High as a motherfucker isn't good for the newspapers.
Two to the head one to the chest, then repeat, reload, and repeat again!
Had used two pairs of handcuffs on a guy who was on shards a.k.a. Crystal meth just to get him out of his family's bathtub be careful people beware it's here- Englewood
Off Topic,SCC a couple of guys in the unit caught this, the City cheated all of us out of 50$. On page 34 in the contract book section 20.13 it states Effective on each of the following effective dates, all officers shall be paid the following quarterly amounts 1 Jan 11 755.00$ on 1 Jan 12 805.00$. We discovered that the City payed us 755.00 on 1 Jan 12, the last duty availability check 1 OCT 12 we should have 3220.00$ but when you look at the check stub it says 3170.00$. The city held 50$ from all of us. 9000 officers x 50$ =450,000.00$ thats a nice payday for the city. Please look into this..
Pay is for previous 3 mos. The check we received 01jan12, was for oct, nov and dec of 2011.
This is definitely a case of body by stateville. Also you can thank the parole board for this one. He was paroled 3 oct 2012. His last charge was from 2009 for agg batt to officer/doc employee and he was supposed to get 6 yrs for just that charge alone. Thank you IDOC assholes
"...bring back Judy Weiss..."
Please report to random drug testing, 3510 S. Michigan Avenue.
Anonymous said...
Why was the victim even shot!
why didn't the officer use verbal commands,a taser(first)!!! hand to hand combat,his baton or asp! pepper spray! black jack! handcuffs as a striking instrument! or just wait for backup and then take down the victim. WHY was it necessary to shot an unarmed victim and then ask questions?????????
Now I am only asking why wasn't any other means used prior to shooting this man..... please help me understand.
11/23/2012 06:06:00 PM
I agree. Why didn't the officers use verbal judo first to gain voluntary compliance from the offender? What happen to procedural justice and making the person feel better after meeting the police? Verbal commands are crucial on the street to gain the respect of community members. We need to police smarter and not resort to the use of force so quickly. Just sayin...
Why was the victim even shot!
why didn't the officer use verbal commands,a taser(first)!!! hand to hand combat,his baton or asp! pepper spray! black jack! handcuffs as a striking instrument! or just wait for backup and then take down the victim. WHY was it necessary to shot an unarmed victim and then ask questions?????????
Now I am only asking why wasn't any other means used prior to shooting this man..... please help me understand.
11/23/2012 06:06:00 PM
why?
E.T. involved is a great Officer. I've encountered him a more than a couple of times in the Area, handling our line-ups, etc. Couldn't be a more thorough guy. I've also seen the video and I'm glad all involved are fine. It could have gotten really ugly, really fast. My hat is off to him.
Anonymous said...
Was the bus damaged?
Rahm
11/23/2012 06:01:00 PM
Another FUCKING PRICELESS!!!!
Why was the victim even shot!
why didn't the officer use verbal commands,a taser(first)!!! hand to hand combat,his baton or asp! pepper spray! black jack! handcuffs as a striking instrument! or just wait for backup and then take down the victim. WHY was it necessary to shot an unarmed victim and then ask questions?????????
Now I am only asking why wasn't any other means used prior to shooting this man..... please help me understand.
11/23/2012 06:06:00
Go ask your legal eagles Rham!!!!! Now get off the fucking blog!!!!
Hey Mr. Not on the job, never been in the shit. Thats a great quote from some gun magazine or some other shit you read or saw on some TV show. But from been where you have never been .45 acp at about 15 feet 3 times center mass DONE........... So STFU
Know it all, Ever been hunting/in a shooting? Ever see a deer drop right where you shot him, no matter what caliber was used? Got to track him a little don't you? Same applies. Oxygenated blood can be a nuisance. Shot placement is everything. Some dudes feel the need to justify that nice new .45
From a gun toting troll: I call BS on a bank robber being shot 12 times center mass with a .45 and did not go down. May I have the specifics so I can check it out? Thank you.
A Charter Arms 44 Bulldog and some nice Gold Dots would have taken care of this.
Get a load of the triple-jay pity party. Oh he's hurt dog, he's hurt.
Associated Press
3:54 p.m. CST, November 24, 2012
Two Chicago congressmen reiterated their support for Jesse Jackson Jr. on Saturday, saying the former Illinois congressman is suffering greatly and needs time to get healthy before he can address the public.
U.S. Reps. Danny Davis and Bobby Rush joined about 200 people for the weekly service at the Rev. Jesse Jackson's Rainbow PUSH Coalition in Chicago. The service included a special prayer for Jackson Jr., and his family.
***
Rush and Davis also said they were disappointed that more politicians didn't attend Saturday's service. Davis called them "fair-weather friends," saying when people are running for office or have a problem they frequently turn to Rev. Jackson and Rainbow PUSH.
"My question remains now, when this family is in need, where are they?" Rush said.
(on JJJ replacement)
...Rush said he thinks any of Jesse Jackson's siblings would be good candidates.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-supporters-rally-behind-jesse-jackson-jr-20121124,0,4674526.story
Oh it's so-so sad.
We should put one of his siblings in his place and then pay him disability ya know...it's the least that we can do as taxpayers.
hahaha.
Have they won you're hearts and minds to enable that yet?
/sarcsam
This is why CTA riders are going to be paying more next year. No not for additional security for the entertainment.
Like those dinner places where the diners become a part of the show! It's fun!! You all like fun don't you? Who doesn't like fun?!
I was on the scene right after the shooting of the offender, the offender was built like the hulk. The offender beat people on the bus, got off the bus and beat people on the street. So, What was wrong with shooting this crazy guy? He was still fighting officers in the ambulance, this was after being shot twice.
I don't think anyone on that bus at that time and in that neighborhood would qualify for concealed carry.
"...please help me understand..."
If you weren't there, you don't know shit. Understand that.
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