One-Third of Sentences?
Someone got shot near California and Madison the other night. That someone had an interesting rap sheet as discovered by some friends of ours and brought to our attention.
It seems this individual took a couple shots at the police back in 2002. He missed and was charged with four counts of Attempted Murder of a Peace Officer. From what we can gather, and in the finest traditions of Cook County "justice," he pled guilty to 4 counts of Aggravated Discharge of a Weapon and was sentenced to 25 years.
We aren't the smartest folks out there by any stretch of the imagination, but 2002 plus 25 equals 2027 as far as we can figure. 2002 plus 13 years (day-for-day credit if eligible) is still 2015.
This asshole was out in 2010. Eight years. For trying to kill police officers. That's like 33% of the given sentence. Anyone care to explain? Anyone in a political position who can tell us why this jagoff was anywhere near California and Madison breathing fresh air?
And the band played on.
Labels: un-fucking-believable
posted by SCC at 12:06 AM
94 Comments:
Anita will blame the prison system and/or parole board, the prison system will blame Quinn, Quinn will blame the poor economy and George Bush, and no one will give an answer as to why a guy served 8 yrs of a 25 yr sentence for trying to kill four police officers. And no one, besides police officers, will know, or even care to question why this even happened.
Your math is way off, you forgot to carry the one.
Signed, Professor Pat Quinn
so much for bringing people to justice.
Is that what they mean by the " The new math"?
Figures don't lie but lier's sure know how to figure!
Harvey Keitel said...
Come on people we need 500!!!!
Tonight we dine in HELLLLLLLLLL!!!!
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Pray one of those 500 isn't one of your children. AssHat.
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MY kids live in Mchenry county with NON-SAVAGES. . .
and I live there on my days off from this SHIT-HOLE CITY.
The burning question is : did he survive?
That conviction is a day for day, or was back then. So the 25 is really 12.5 years. If he took substance abuse(drug or alcohol) counseling that would knock off 6 months, and could knock off up to 18 months of his sentence. The 12.5 years now becomes 12 at most and probably became 11-11.5 years. Can't remember exactly, but there also used to be credit of a couple months for ever year of good behavior or something like that. He could easily knock off another 10-14 months that way, and be down to 9.8 - 10. 5 years or so.
The Bears should move to Englewood. After all, they're getting killed every weekend, too.
hopefully he will be at 2121 W Harrison on a steel tray soon
I can explain:
He was released when the county was forced to free 32 inmates due to budget restraints.
"As we get smaller, the people we release get more dangerous,"
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/12/02/christopher-franklin-weaver-released-jail-inmate-robs-bank_n_2227618.html
This story, + "The Cook County Factor"
rb
he was a model prisoner and showed exceptional life changing skills
U know why 500 is the magic number for homicides now? It's because 312+187=499
Murder capital of the world!!!!!!!
Who was the prosecutor?
Who was the judge?
If polititicians and judges are held accountable, a situation like this would not exist.
Truth in Sentencing! We do not need anymore laws, we need to enforce the laws we have.
Not a cop, but a pissed off taxpayer. This bullshit has to stop. There are men and women who get fucked everyday by the system. Then you read about this. If this was the first time sure or some clerical mistake ok but this happens every week.
Uh-Oh...there gonna be some twouble in Cleveland if they don't find that gun...Cha--Ching Cha-Ching.
Cleveland, East Cleveland officials seek answers after police chase ends with 13 officers firing 137 shots, 2 people dead
EAST CLEVELAND, Ohio — With 13 Cleveland police officers firing 137 rounds and killing two people following a chase Thursday night, city leaders are seeking answers and could ask for a civil rights investigation.
Investigators did not find a gun inside the bullet-riddled blue Chevrolet Malibu SS when staff from the Cuyahoga County medical examiner's office removed the bodies from the car Friday evening.
*****
"I heard a car smack and knew it hit something," he said. "The next thing I heard was gunfire. Pop, pop, pop. Bang, bang, bang. I couldn't believe how much -- it must have been more than 50 shots."
He threw himself to the floor.
"I dove down on the ground when I heard the gunfire because bullets got no names," he said.
(much more at the above link, read the whole thing)
This is just one more reason I am done working.
but when any police officer gets caught doing far less ( although illegal enough to get jammed up) they throw the book at him and make sure he doesn't breathe that fresh air..... for something far less serious... WTF
and although blago was sentenced and found guilty and was sent away to colorado, he wont be walking anytime soon either!!! and all he did was try to sell a seat... go figure
they do 1 for 3 in Cook Co.
Stop electing liberal judges who believe in revolving door prison crap..!!
I'm a progressive but vote republican for all judges because they tend to throw the book at criminals.
Gangs make hundreds of millions of dollars per year in drug sales. They pay politicians and lawyers.
Do the math.
"This asshole was out in 2010. Eight years. For trying to kill police officers. That's like 33% of the given sentence. Anyone care to explain? Anyone in a political position who can tell us why this jagoff was anywhere near California and Madison breathing fresh air?"
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Good behavior?
Gee could it be the corrupt crook county justice system? Again as usual the weak judges who are clouted political hacks let the scum free, to hunt like the animals they are on the innocent citizens! No wonder his city/state/county is the most in debt, corrupt state in the nation!
Ask Anita, she just let a lawyer who abetted a cop killer walk...
If he was near California & Madison he may have been breathing, but it sure as hell wasn't fresh air.
One word,,,,,, DEMOCRATS.
From a troll: No, no one can explain, things just magically "happen" in this liberal mecca known as IL. You see, justice in Cook County in and of itself is an absurdity. It is about wonder, amusement and frustration. I have learned that from reading what you all write. But you have to follow the chain. The missing links are County and State. In this case, you have the PRB who has the political appointees from the City and State, often incompetent merit appointees of the party who make release and parole decisions. They were bequeathed these positions as favor from the Governor who has already announced and in other cases secretly, catch and release of criminals from penal institutions. Maybe this turd was on a list (politically created or not) where 25 which means 10 and he was released? This state has decided it simply does not want to spend the money to keep criminals locked up full term. This of course makes your jobs more dangerous and life for me and mine more risky. Remember-shoot to kill. It is the only justice any of you will ever receive when someone tries to kill you. Stay safe, protect each other (and me and mine) and have a Merry Christmas.
Lawyers get 33% so now the crimanimals get 33% time served.
The answer is simple, Nobody and that means you and I, hold the courts accountable. In the last election once again ALL judges were retained including one who has been declared mentally ill, and has herself physically atacked a deputy! FOP has not led an effective effort to stop a judge from being retained since Officer Cathy Touhy was beaten and disfigured by an offender, who was later given probation, and that was in the 1980's! Following that incident the FOP led a drive to have the judge responsible kept from re-election and we succeeded. But that was then and this is now, and today when Burke slates a judge, that judge is given a judgeship FOR LIFE! Burke has the power otherwise restricted to the President when he gives a Federal Judgeship for life. And the public and cops who have to live with these animals are expendible. Nobody cares about the citizen victims who because of poverty or race have to live with the pieces of shit that these noble jurists decide to release on the public.
Any of the pussy "investigative reporters" care to INVESTIGATE? I didn't think so
Hey SCC. We all know how downtown is always full of traffic due to construction, idiot drivers, idiot pedestrians and idiot cab drivers. Well what does the city do to help congestion, they remove a car lane to accommodate the idiot bike riders. Instead of three lanes on Dearborn there is now just two lane. WTF
Is that someone dead, I hope? Or just injured costing the taxpayers more money?
Disgusting. Want to lower crime keep these fucks locked up like the animals they are! Building more prisons create jobs too
This is a major reason why violent crime is on the rise. This has been a common occurrence over the years with people who commit violent crimes. Most are either on parole with little or no supervision provided by the state other than a weekly phone call to a Department of Corrections switch board in Springfield or on probation ,again ,with little or no supervision. It may take 3 or 4 violations of probation and or parole to finally get a warrant issued for these predators. Meanwhile , if you give career criminals an inch of courtesy they take a mile and the end result is dead and injured citizens. Pat Quinn , are you listening?
Ain't got the space for prisoners. Or can't afford to keepm them.
That's just CPS math, nome wut I'm sayin'?
How about 1/3 taxes?
He was let out early to vote.
Cook county is the safest place for a criminal to do business and the most dangerous place for the honest citizen.
Anonymous said...
Uh-Oh...there gonna be some twouble in Cleveland if they don't find that gun...Cha--Ching Cha-Ching.
Cleveland, East Cleveland officials seek answers after police chase ends with 13 officers firing 137 shots, 2 people dead
EAST CLEVELAND, Ohio — With 13 Cleveland police officers firing 137 rounds and killing two people following a chase Thursday night, city leaders are seeking answers and could ask for a civil rights investigation.
Investigators did not find a gun inside the bullet-riddled blue Chevrolet Malibu SS when staff from the Cuyahoga County medical examiner's office removed the bodies from the car Friday evening.
*****
"I heard a car smack and knew it hit something," he said. "The next thing I heard was gunfire. Pop, pop, pop. Bang, bang, bang. I couldn't believe how much -- it must have been more than 50 shots."
He threw himself to the floor.
"I dove down on the ground when I heard the gunfire because bullets got no names," he said.
(much more at the above link, read the whole thing)
12/03/2012 04:26:00 AM
With all the shuffling of manpower in chicago maybe some coppers will get detailed to Cleveland to help out with the civil unrest.
Keep voting Democratic and this is what you get!!!
WAKE UP AMERICA! Quit giving away our country to thugs and lazy people!
Protect your own neighborhood! Let the savages fend for themselves. Just do your job. Don't bend over backwards for the savages!
That's our wonderful criminal justice system for you!
The public needs to be more aware of all the bullshit like this that goes on.
Squezzy, the parole python!! Squeezing prisoners out of jail every day.
Thanks Govner Q
unreal, how can that knucklehead be out so dam quik?? thers a major problem in the justice system here. for that kinda of crime it should be manadatory serve wtf!
OT:
I saw in today's paper that Rahm is going to use leftover NATO money for youth anti violence initiatives.
WTF? How about paying some of the $$$ you've owed our pension funds? This fucker has no intention of ever fulfilling the city's obligation to our pension funds.
Lots if incentives for getting out,what's our incentive for putting him away with these games played, yes our job has to be done and someone has to do it but these slaps on the wrist should not be given to criminals that try to harm those who are capturing them,tell you al lot of what they'll do to mr.citizen!
Big changes coming Friday
What was his name? I think I pinched him back in '02.
The guy who yelled at Daley got almost as much time
Anonymous said...
This is just one more reason I am done working.
12/03/2012 04:29:00 AM
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Please leave the department and the city. We all have to live and raise our families here. If you'd like to just look out for yourself and collect a paycheck you really need to examine where your sense of entitlement comes from.
Look at the bright side. His chances of dying are much greater on the West side than they are in jail.
Off topic:
Two gift ideas for your cop spouse, brother, sister, aunt, uncle, nephew who know the job or that citizen friend who doesn't "get it" and never will but might get a clue as to what your life is all about.
I recently read two books by Edward Conlon. Red on Red and Blue Blood.
He is a Harvard grad and NYPD detective. Red on Red is fiction and Blue Blood is "his" story of being on the job. Both are good reads.
If you've spent time in NY, all the better for your enjoyment. More similarities in his Dept. than differences from ours.
No I'm not getting anything out of this endorsement. Just a retired guy who recently read two good books and am keenly aware of the age old problems of Christmas shopping.
And Cozzi did 5 years? For all you hard charging suck asses. I hope you get what you deserve for not sticking together!!
Anonymous said...
12:40 whats wrong with you, sue because he flunked the power test. So you think everytime a candidate flunks a power test they can "sue the shit out of the city and make it a class action suit Hell, I must be stupid, I should have just flunked the situps, sued the city , got seniority, back pay and retired. Do you really believe you could get any money out of the city for something like that , yea tons of money and do you have any idea what a class action suit is. You dont just flunk a test and then turn it into a class action suit
12/01/2012 08:07:00 PM
It worked out well for about 111 recently hired firefighters recently!!!
The prison system is concerned with one thing and one thing only : peace within the walls. They used a convoluted system of time served for good behavior and time taken off for other programs that you engage in during your forced stay. That, in their minds, helps to keep things calm in the prison. What happens once the convicted felon hits the streets it not their problem.
Anon said:
all he did was try to sell a seat... go figure
I say if this is the case which it is, then a "seat" is worth more than the life of a peace officer. Fuck that! CPD has a few bad apples, but every officer has waved to my daughter when she waves, has been courteous and helpful when assistance was needed. Why are we fucking our own police department?
I feel sorry for our beloved CPD. They have the craziest rules for engaging the enemy and having to have self restraint while under fire, no shooting intio open windows, etc.
in Afghanistan and even Iraq, we just got it on so we could live to fight another day.
CPD, you are appreciated by me and my family. please get your drunken boss to hire some more please.
Keep electing Democommunists in Crook County, and this mess will just get worse. Texas doesn't have this problem. Chicago/Crook County= Cesspool.
OFF TOPIC: In Mt. Greenwood............ Can someone please explain to me why at 1110am there was a girl driving down the 3800 w. 1110th place in her PERSONAL vehicle (black Jeep) writing parking tickets??? No joke. A neighbor down the street got one for no plate. She had a black coat with no patched so do not even know if she was wearing a uniform.
Is she doing this off duty???
Is this her activity while driving to work???
Is she doing this in her "own" covert car cause she knows the Blue & White is too obvious???
Does the commander/Lt/ Sgt know about this???
Well I got her plates and will give it to a few non-police to make a formal beef. Hopefully she steps on her tit and commits a Rule 14 violation.
Shameful.
The whole problem is "Truth in sentencing."
We all know it, it's called consequences for bad judgement and making an example of thuggery.
America
Talk about crime why dosen't the feds prosecute the female ASA. who bit the store managers leg. for a civil rights violation and official misconduct since her friend Anita Alvarez is only charging her with a misdemeanor. The news said that she pulled out her States Attorney badge and announced her office before biting the guys leg. If she were a police woman Anita would approve felony charges. And the FOP endorsed Alvarez! the police hater
CNN aired an investigative report on millions of dollars that Gov Quinn doled out prior o his reelection to so called community groups to have them put a stop to the gang violence. Of ourselves the money is all spent and there is no accountability as to where it went.
CNN all quotes McSuds and how crime is down, but they don't challenge his numbers, just eat hi bs.
You also forget his County time which you get day for day credit for.
Not saying that asshat being out is correct, but he probably did serve all the time that he needed to serve.
speechless in shitcago.....WTF..but the criminals get more right everyday ! ENOUGH !!!!
Richard Vanecko charged with Murder
Common Sense said...
Harvey Keitel said...
Come on people we need 500!!!!
Tonight we dine in HELLLLLLLLLL!!!!
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Pray one of those 500 isn't one of your children. AssHat.
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MY kids live in Mchenry county with NON-SAVAGES. . .
and I live there on my days off from this SHIT-HOLE CITY.
12/03/2012 12:38:00 AM
What's kind of funny is that you really believe what you just said. Good parenting prevails over location. I was raised in Englewood by a cop and a social worker. They got out as soon as they could. Nobody believed I was from Englewood. They always thought I was lying and trying to get street cred by saying it. Now I'm a cop with my own family and yes I live in the hood. My children learn to pray, read, count, speak properly AT HOME...in the hood. We're moving to a better neighborhood soon but that won't make them better people. That starts here. Non-savages in McHenry?!?!? Lol I'll be there are bad parents out there though eh?
THIS JUST I......Vanecko has just been indicted for manslaughter by a grand jury......Soweeeeet!!!!
Lets see if this is the beginning of the end for the Daley crime family. His greasy faced nephew R.J. Vanecko was indicted for the death of David Koschman (sp). Hopefully for the sake of this kids family, closure in the form of jail time for this prick will happen.
Plug em and save taxpayers and cops money and wasted time in the future.
That starts here
AMEN!
"This has been a common occurrence over the years with people who commit violent crimes. Most are either on parole with little or no supervision provided by the state other than a weekly phone call to a Department of Corrections switch board in Springfield or on probation ,again ,with little or no supervision. It may take 3 or 4 violations of probation and or parole to finally get a warrant issued for these predators."
12/03/2012 08:00:00 AM
...but you will see elderly person go down hard, first offense ever on "domestic violence" where "victim" rode around on buses doing shopping and stuff for days before even remembering to call cops. Straight to prison, held for maximum possible, then paroled on electronic monitoring for another year. Sat in house for no sane reason watching free-range Dude thudding basketballs and messing with cars up and down other people's block any old time. Someone brought the old guy a burrito, that was a big event.
Even parole officer WTF, went and talked to ASA, etc, no, no, no. "She crazy. She want every conviction she get to run for office later. I got out of there."
So we are all safer with efficient use like this.
the verdict....
self defense you really dont think a convictions gonna happen.
Unless many attorneys and detectives are goin to be thrown under the Feds bus!
typical BS. They can kill cops and still be let out. Amazing huh? but true sad of our system.
McHenry is a shithole
Nothing but white trash and Mexican gangbangers all over there. It's no better than any neighborhood in the city. Get with it.
What's the point of catching these people when they can kills us in the process, sue and still walk out with no real punishment???? Seriously, it's a bad system that it is catching up. You want to blame commanders across the city for the rise in homicides or the police itself. But, the root of the problem is the poor judicidal system that allows these long rap and dangerous criminals to have no real punishment and back into a society that they hate. As a proof, they get out and commit more murders, robberies and so forth, etc. When is the pressure is going to be applied for these bad to the bone criminals to never be let out. To really be denied how they denied the life that they took or the money they robbed by force, when? Let them rot in jail and stay there for a very very long time. Maybe then you will see that our homicides and other crimes will go down.
Well I got her plates and will give it to a few non-police to make a formal beef. Hopefully she steps on her tit and commits a Rule 14 violation.
12/03/2012 11:35:00 AM
Call the City Clerks office during business hours and ASK if the vehicle is one of their Investigators....they don't use M Plates or wear Uniform's.
No Cop...no matter how big a Dog or Hair Gel or Stroke is going to write parkers in their OWN damn vehicle....on or off duty.
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Anonymous said...
Look at the bright side. His chances of dying are much greater on the West side than they are in jail.
12/03/2012 10:36:00 AM
So true!
The Teacher
12/03/2012 11:35:00 AM
3800 W 1110th place?
No Such address in the Mt Greenwood neighborhood of Chicago pal.
Google it ffs...111th Place ends at Western and doesn't pick back up until the Rutherford and Natoma area of 111th Street. So unless she was writing parkers inside of Mt Greenwood Park or the Chicago High School for Agricultural Sciences...you need to lay off the Bourbon.
12/03/2012 02:14:00 PM
This is the most intelligent comment I've seen on this blog in a while.
The Parents are 90% responsible for the way their kids turn out. Nature is only about 10% of it unless the child has a ingrained psychological disorder (like McVeigh or Daley or Burge)
Stop electing liberal judges who believe in revolving door prison crap..!!
All the judges on the last ballot were liberal demis.
That conviction is a day for day, or was back then. So the 25 is really 12.5 years. If he took substance abuse(drug or alcohol) counseling that would knock off 6 months, and could knock off up to 18 months of his sentence. The 12.5 years now becomes 12 at most and probably became 11-11.5 years. Can't remember exactly, but there also used to be credit of a couple months for ever year of good behavior or something like that. He could easily knock off another 10-14 months that way, and be down to 9.8 - 10. 5 years or so.
12/03/2012 12:58:00 AM
NONE of the "good time" shit should apply when a low life tries to kill a cop. Period.
Not only did they do away with the death penalty, the inept and corrupt judges continue to hand out lenient sentences to violent criminals. Of course these mutts only end up serving half of their sentences, unless of course our illustrious liberal governor turns them loose with his early release program, only to offend again and again. To add insult to injury Illinois is the only state that continues to fight conceal to carry thereby leaving the law abiding citizens basically defenseless. How the hell do these idiots live with themselves. I honestly cannot stand living in this hell hole anymore, can't wait to move far far away.
Well I got her plates and will give it to a few non-police to make a formal beef. Hopefully she steps on her tit and commits a Rule 14 violation.
12/03/2012 11:35:00
Ok call ipra
Whats the complaint? Whats the rule violation?
I got a ticket?
Pay up crybaby
Look at the ticket. Is there a star number?
Anonymous said...
And Cozzi did 5 years? For all you hard charging suck asses. I hope you get what you deserve for not sticking together!!
12/03/2012 11:02:00 AM
Wrong. Billy did 3, but it was 3 too many thanks to J-fed.
To 11:35 am the only beef you got is she's driving the wrong way. You are the police stop her and issue a mover you can do that off duty or you make the complaint yourself. Instead of bitchin on this blog do something about it. Why do you need a citizen to file the beef.
No one cares anymore. Everything we say falls on deaf ears. It's no wonder people have just given up. Only option is to exit this city as quick as you can and not look back.
These politicians better start to wake up. Vote them all out!
How do these judges keep getting elected when many vote no for them, hmmmm?
Maybe time to look into our voting system or update the outdated system
"I saw in today's paper that Rahm is going to use leftover NATO money for youth anti violence initiatives.
WTF? How about paying some of the $$$ you've owed our pension funds? This fucker has no intention of ever fulfilling the city's obligation to our pension funds."
No he doesn't plan on fulfilling the city's OBLIGATION. When he was elected, Emanuel said something to the effect of he's not going to worry about old bills, he's going to concentrate on new projects.
He knows he can't undo all of Daley's fiscal malfeasance, so he'll just work on pretty, new, shiny things for the idiot media and voter to "ooh" and "ahh" over.
The pension situation will take care of itself; by collapsing. If he's still around by that time (doubtful), he or his successor will be "forced" to do "something" about it. There have been plenty of postings regarding what that something might be, but you can damn sure bet it won't come anywhere close to resembling the current pension.
rb
the gov just gave a bunch of people clemency. how can we see who they were????
Thats a chicago cook county il 25 yrs.Some of these judges need a lesson in math or maybe a wake up call?
Anonymous said...
No one cares anymore. Everything we say falls on deaf ears. It's no wonder people have just given up. Only option is to exit this city as quick as you can and not look back.
12/04/2012 12:39:00 AM
You're right. When you retire rollover your deferred comp into a retirement fund,moreover you can withdraw your contributions to the pension and receive 1.5% simple interest and roll that over too. That way your connection to city and state governments are completely severed.
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