Bad Idea Resurfaces
Yesterday we asked why a convicted felon served less than one-third of his sentence and ended up released to rob, shoot, and leave his victim in a vegetative state.
Get ready to see a lot more of that:
Get ready to see a lot more of that:
- Illinois prisons are preparing to introduce a more restrictive early-release program to replace one that was halted three years ago amid public outcry over inmates serving just fractions of their sentences.
Democratic Gov. Pat Quinn shut down the former program after The Associated Press reported that 1,745 inmates -- some convicted of violent crimes -- had been released within weeks or even days of their arrival at the penitentiary.
The end of the program caused the prison population to swell by more than 4,000 inmates, and there are now more than 49,000 people in prisons designed to hold 33,000. The new program is aimed at easing the problem, the way early-out programs were previously used for decades to manage the population.
But unlike in the old program, inmates must serve at least 60 days of their sentence before being released. The new law also allows the prison director to decide early release eligibility on a range of factors, including a past record of violence, something the department had said court rulings previously prohibited.
The Illinois Department of Corrections has started reviewing records of potentially eligible inmates.
So since Quinn is shutting perfectly serviceable prisons in an effort to not hire prison guards, he claims the remaining prisons are "overcrowded" (artificially of course), and what was a bad idea three years ago, becomes resurrected.
Sixty days in prison? Ooooo, that'll deter crime. We recall a rather significant upsurge in violent and property crimes three years ago before anyone put two and two together and the program was derailed. And don't even think of asking for a gun to defend yourselves, your homes, or your loved ones from this disaster-in-the-making.
Sixty days in prison? Ooooo, that'll deter crime. We recall a rather significant upsurge in violent and property crimes three years ago before anyone put two and two together and the program was derailed. And don't even think of asking for a gun to defend yourselves, your homes, or your loved ones from this disaster-in-the-making.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
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Who is he prison director that will decide this? Another political hack? Wonder if he/she will get paid off to release certain gang bangers early? Typical illinois the crime capital of he world!
"But unlike in the old program, inmates must serve at least 60 days of their sentence before being released."
I forget the magic number -- 45 days? 60 days? or something close. That was simply the minimum time it took for the IDOC to get its money for a new inmate, the absolute minimum time someone would have to stay.
"Early release" rumors are an endless part of the gossip mill at all times, but it's obvious that they are really implementing it more and more.
the cook county system needs a top to bottom overhaul.
No worries...
The "greedy, selfish, don't want to take a cut in pay/benefits like everybody else, just want to retire with a cush six figure pension at 50" cops will be scapegoated as soon as one/some of these feature creatures scampers up some Gold Coast or Lincoln Park down spout like a fucking squirrel and into an open window...
*Climbs over the balcony rail, sweaty, bulge-eyed and flashing a filed to a point grin... Screams horrible, semi-coherent curses while brandishing a skull on a stick... Buffy & Brad loudly and simultaneously shit the bed. "Wait! Have Mercy! We voted for Rahmbo & Obama too!" GROOOWWWL! >Leap!< YAAAAHHHH!-Fart!*
Heh... And people say we're vicious and hateful for our desire to see the smug and self satisfied having to fight for their own lives for a change.
>Snicker!<
Flaming Tutu and McHeatShield say there's plenty of Police.
So many in fact, that they want to raise the minimum retirement age in an attempt to keep the '85 - '95 hires (over 50% of the Department?) from escaping in droves.
Intentional shrinkage through attrition is one thing...
Wholesale escape by the "slaves" is quite another.
Somebody apparently whispered in Rahm's ear that WAAAYYY too many coppers were raising the "fuck-it with an option to flee" flag.
Heh... Retirement seminars?
Will. Be. Standing Room. Only.
For this year. 2014 and 2015.
Perhaps a member of Rahm & Co. or an affiliate of the criminal-political media cabal will end up catching a bad haircut at the hands of some members of their inner-city zombie militia.
Political cowardice is trying to keep the upright man from having the means to defend himself, his family and his property.
Oh yeah... Gator the Urban Translator says he needs a gun an' shit...
Butter won't melt in Rahm Al Ghoul Ben Schemer's mouth about this.
He ain't got shit to say because "Gator Runit" by virtue a a few hundred thousand "voters" whole have and will continue to vote according to "Gator an'nem's" whims...
Every set of wind-up dentures is madly clacking about having the "courage" to keep the honest working man disarmed in the face of these assholes who inflict grief and misery in abundance.
Unchecked Chicago style fuckery gone nation-wide...
Truth is hidden.
Facts can only be seen through a filter approved by the criminal-political media cabal.
The war against The Police and all their concerns continues unabated...
Isn't this what everybody wanted? The mean, insensitive, out of control, old, wild and crazy Chicago Coppers "going away" in droves?
Look at all the money Rahm is saving!
*I balanced the budget, banned guns and cut spending in Chicago... Now elect me President if you know what's good for you, bitches!*
>Snicker!<
Yeah... That sounds about right...
But this is a good and fair thing. Toni says there are too many brown and black men in prison. This will help the problem. They're just misunderstood. Fucking democrats.
The police are not Constitutionally bound to protect citizens, according to SCOTUS:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/10/One-More-Reason-We-Need-Guns-SCOTUS-Rules-Police-Not-Bound-To-Protect-Citizens
WTF... I'm sure the Q can ship them out to Sheriff Joe, he's got thousands of acres of desert and plenty of tents.
I'm about done with this city/county/state
biggest shithole in the USA
It's truly unbelievable. What planet did we wake up on. Catch and release is for fish.
Speaking of bad ideas, why is it that "supervisors" in the 011th District are permitted to use the Performance Recognition System to enact discipline? You have a 3rd watch Sgt (T/S) using it to call out officers and fronting out lieutenants by name. Then the egomaniac day lieutenant slandering officers and urging Sgts to make all sorts of entries into the system so he can use it to fuck with car assignments. Must be a lack of command supervision in Fillmo'
(BTW, former 5 time loser here, so I know what's what. 12 years of freedom, now own a business that I built from nothing & NO arrests since my release in 2001.)
Love the blog, SCC!
1/12/2013 12:28:00 AM
Too bad there aren't more like you out there. Good job, "realizing the error of your [earlier] ways!"
Anonymous said...
Speaking of bad ideas, why is it that "supervisors" in the 011th District are permitted to use the Performance Recognition System to enact discipline? You have a 3rd watch Sgt (T/S) using it to call out officers and fronting out lieutenants by name. Then the egomaniac day lieutenant slandering officers and urging Sgts to make all sorts of entries into the system so he can use it to fuck with car assignments. Must be a lack of command supervision in Fillmo'
1/12/2013 04:37:00 AM
CANT WE JUST ALL GET ALONG ???? come on boys and girls. really?? now theres problems in the 011 district? the once happening , fast district where its supposedly so busy you dont have time for this bullshit. it amazes me how anyone, everyone focuses so much on the bullshit and not the real task. imagine if we all just stopped worrying about the crap- -whose sleeping with who, who is being taken cared of, why is this person on days, why does that person have an attitude,. All this was not taught at the academy yet we put more of an emphasis on the bullshit. If you place all your energies on whate we're here to do----POLICE WORK, i'm sure we'd be a lot happier. try it you might be surprised at the results
Maybe when these offenders are released early, the new Daley Cartel Memorial Park will be done where they can sit and reflect on the errors of their ways, then off for a brisk bicycle ride on the new bike paths.
Millions upon millions of dollars well spent if you ask me.
To 1/12/2013 04:37:00 AM
Get your Shit straight you obviously have no better grasp of what discipline is than the day Lt's grasp of what isubordination is. Did someone lose time? pay? not defending the actions but condemning your exagerations.
Good. I hope they let out every nut job psycho and they start to prey on the voters that allowed this to happen. It's the only way they'll learn.
You get the government you deserve. Time to clean up the dead wood.
Priceless, the smoke and mirrors are.
Rahm gonna get tuff and ban all the things when it comes to guns.
New strict mandatory jail time.
Quinn and Preckwinkle have no room in the jails and with Rahm trying to put more people away it's busting out their budgets.
So Quinn cranks up the early release program again.
It's like hearing Gary talk about major busts that conjures up images for the genera public of the bad guys being taken off the streets.
However there is no coverage on how quickly they are let back out on the streets on a daily basis, charges refused, downgraded, or plea bargained.
Nope, reporting on that stuff would ruin the image that things are working.
We have no money for the jails.
Sorry Rahm blew it on $55 million dollar memorial park tributes to the prior Queen. Blew it on hundred thousand dollar per mile bike paths and corporate tax breaks.
So Chicago, you'll just have to deal with the raging gun battles, CTA apple picking, cab driver strangling robberies, hair salon holdups, and general mobbing.
Crime is down when you have scores of bodyguards and city security cams around your house. What you don't have them? The mayor and aldermen do don't they? Living in a different world they are.
Anyone here working at the DMV?
I'm curious what the impact if any of the illegal immigrant drivers license is having on applications.
With Chicago being the sanctuary city and all I would be surprised that the system could handle all those new applicants. We're are being flooded right?
I remember they used to call that the "quick turn-around" when they sentenced these pukes to time served.
I am much more interested in the "quick reach-around".
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
They have to have lots of cells for victimless drug possession cases! Got to show progress on the war on drugs, lest those millions of federal dollars per year dry up.
They spent 140 million dollars of taxpayer money to build Thomson correctional about 10 years ago in Carol County, yet they never allocated funds to operate it. They never utilized any of the 2000 maximum security cells and used just a few of the minimum security beds so some transferred in trustees could help mow the grass and keep the place up. Some how crime must be down and we don't need more prison space, yer we do need more gun laws, hmm typical liberal bullshit.
Anonymous said...
But this is a good and fair thing. Toni says there are too many brown and black men in prison. This will help the problem. They're just misunderstood. Fucking democrats.
1/12/2013 02:10:00 AM
If people actually knew just how hard it is and how many bad things they have to do to finally get housed in cook county, Illinois, they would reslly be amazed and scared!!! They just don't want to hear it or vote on it..... Than they allow the good reverands to go inside the jails to preach to the poor misguided political prisoners. I'm still amazed that no one will call them on that!
No matter what the strategy of he day is . No matter how many commanders get embarressed by McToughguy at Compstst. No matter how many RDO's are cancelled. No matter how many times a P.O. gets his/her CU denied. The murders and shooting will continue ,because of the early release program. THERE IS NO DETERENT TO COMMITTING A CRIME IF THEY WON'T KEEP YOU LOCKED UP !!!! 500 homicides could be the low end of 2013 with this practice. I hope that the liberal society enjoys what it created.
(BTW, former 5 time loser here, so I know what's what. 12 years of freedom, now own a business that I built from nothing & NO arrests since my release in 2001.)
Love the blog, SCC!
1/12/2013 12:28:00 AM
Glad to hear of your success. Best of luck.
I always thought they should take a cue from the pound. Send out the ones that are savable and gas the feral ones.
Ok,but give us our Concealed Carry back so we can protect ourselves.
We who live in Chicago fail to realize that there is another Illinois, and it is the Illinois that controls the prisons. To the Prison Executives in "ViEna" Chicago is a toilet bowl and these prisoners are it's content. So putting that which spilled out of the bowl back in the bowl is appropriate. These mopes live in Hooterville and seldom go north of Springfield, so sending deranged violent offenders back to the streets of Chicago presents no threat to them. Remember, you never hear of these released psychos doing bad things anywhere but Chicago.
Illlinois is not hiring prison guards?
What about all those 'shovel ready' obamaJobs?
Well, if Illinois is locking up all its democrat voters, who'll vote for .....
WTF... I'm sure the Q can ship them out to Sheriff Joe, he's got thousands of acres of desert and plenty of tents.
1/12/2013 02:40:00 AM
On the news last night in AZ they showed the "Vacancy" sign. Since it was going to be below freezing he served them warm soup.
Also impressive are the Sheriff’s get tough policies. For example, he banned smoking, coffee, movies, pornographic magazines, and unrestricted TV in all jails. He has the cheapest meals in the U.S. too. The average meal costs between 15 and 40 cents, and inmates are fed only twice daily, to cut the labor costs of meal delivery. He even stopped serving them salt and pepper to save tax payers $20,000 a year.
http://www.mcso.org/About/Sheriff.aspx
They think twice before coming back
Ill never forget the time we caught a guy on parole for MURDER w about 4 grams of blows. A few months later i get a letter from the state. Plea of guilty....sentence PROBATION! and my mouth hit the floor. Only in the most corrupt city in the most corrupt county in the most currupt state in the nation can a guy be on probation and parole at the same time.....and fomurderno less.
start with a mandatory 5 years for that cps honor student that had a gun and ammo in his locker .
The solution seems simple to me, build more prisons! But that makes way too much sense. Lets complain about the violence but then let all the criminals out of prison. Then we'll ear mark a few more million to useless community organizations and not hold them accountable.
http://crimeinchicago.blogspot.com/2013/01/chicago-violence-scoreboard-1-11-13.html?m=1
your monthly stats.
12:28
U didn't build your company, Obama and his nurse maid liberal buddies did. You see that it took you 5 entries in Gov't sponsored school before you got it right. Liberal America-giviing people everything (entitlements) from cradle to the grave.
can we choose the 60 days I would like to winter in the joint maybe dec. jan. that cold metal gun in my hand is mighty cold.
there is only so much space in the prisons. somehow you have to ration how you use that space. my guess would be that one of the ways the state rations that space is by telling counties with large numbers of criminals like Cook, to limit how many prisoners are sent to IDOC.
Obviously they cannot do this above board, but in a wink and nod kind of way they almost have to or the prison system would be full just from Cook County.
The state really needs to look at finding some way to deal with the prisoner population or they are going to have very serious problems long term. Building more prisons just does not solve the problem.
Rahm and Preckwinkle wants to double the jail time for gun violations. Do the math, two times zero is still zero in the cook county court system and all the gang bangers know it.
This is nothing more than "catch and release." We're supposed to think something real is going on!
You mean it will not be like the old days when you could follow the Cook County bus to Joliet to see how many of the "sentenced" would come back the same day? Anybody with less than a year (later two years) to serve was back in the hood.
I second subbing out IDOC to Arizona and Sheriff Joe. We'd save money. Some scumbags might think twice.
They're prisoners. Why should it be a Hilton for them? Bunch them up. Perhaps give them some straw for a bed.
That's why I wish any lawyers out there would reach out to the CPD Memorial Fund and start encouraging families of officers killed to start suing the Parole Board, the Director of IDOC, the Gov. And the individual parole agents just like we get sued.
Unbelievable insanity. Thank you liberal morons.
MS
I know it is cathartic to post here complaining about it, but I encourage you to call and write your state reps (as well as Quinn's office) in opposition of this proposal. Otherwise, from their prospective, your support it.
Anonymous said...
The police are not Constitutionally bound to protect citizens, according to SCOTUS:
http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/01/10/One-More-Reason-We-Need-Guns-SCOTUS-Rules-Police-Not-Bound-To-Protect-Citizens
1/12/2013 02:32:00 AM
Well fuck it then. Why don't we ban the police we don't need them. You are just another idiot who totally misinterprets what SCOTUS means. The police protect people because they want to... SCOTUS didn't want the police to be sued every time they failed to protect someone. The police can't be everywhere and make mistakes. We are not perfect. When people need help who do they call?
Talk about "Bad Ideas Resurfacing" --
"Here's a novel idea..."
1/12/2013 12:28:00 AM
I respond to these once in a while. I should keep a form letter to use.
Endlessly repeated childish fantasies, "weld the prisoners into steel boxes with lions and tigers and then heat them to a million degrees and shake them."
Pulling the wings off flies and other such behavior should drop off after age nine or so, but it doesn't seem to.
"...instead of closing down prisons like Tamms, make them ALL like Tamms & actually punish them. Take away [this, that, the other thing]
"Look here everybody!" yells the Lt. "Motherfucker don't like it here with us! Motherfucker want to go back to Stateville!"
There is always one.
Sure, we can sustain minimum 2-3 COs to move one shackled inmate 30 feet to take a shower or do the smallest things, "no movement" security 24/7/365 on -- 45,000? -- inmates.
Like people who actually knew Tamms and places like it say, "You can't improve your behavior because no behavior is permitted." It is not Vo-Tech. It is the end of the line.
There are enough genuinely insane and extremely dangerous people in there already. One guy in your "Tamms" got there by hacking up a real sweet lady civilian employee in dietary at the much better place where he had been housed. He had been making salad with that knife for a little while, and she let her guard down -- once. She sang in the church choir where she lived hear there. Kindhearted.
Another one got there because he wanted to kill another inmate, and like a giant rat he tunneled right through two concrete cell walls to do it.
There is not enough maximum-security space for these -- and you want to put every bad-check writer and shoplifter, every "obstructing justice" for mouthing at the cop arresting his brother, behind a multi-thousand-dollar triple-thick plastic spit shield and heat him up and mess with him until you can't turn your back on him?
The staff wants to get through the day.
Surely someone who has been through IDOC "five times" knows that every place like Tamms has a minimum-security unit to provide a work force. Want to lock them down and hire 200-400 additional state employees per prison, just to keep the floors mopped?
Stop inmates from filling sandbags when it floods, stop them clearing storm damage, fallen trees and stuff -- have you ever been out of Chicago, or are you even in this country?
"BTW, former 5 time loser here, so I know what's what."
...then you know that you slept maybe 90 minutes, in three or four pieces, through six counts a day, in an overcrowded pressure cooker of unending conflict, bullshit, hassles, threats, racial hatred, gang problems, sick games, sex perversion, and serious physical danger.
...and that's only Level Seven.
These places often make the staff crazier than the inmates. Talk about divorce and DUI as occupational hazards. Phone poles for 30 miles around aren't safe.
This is a first in my book. Someone who has been through this even once on either side of the do' -- let alone "five times" behind it -- is the unlikeliest person in the world to be found agitating against inmates being able to buy a chapstick or a deck of cards with the $35.00? a month they are given for fixing roads, cleaning toilets, and similar.
"Be careful what you ask for -- you just might get it."
http://tinyurl.com/c725yrt
Honestly I think this shows how governments manipulate so much in order to look good while actually being awfully bad and get some graft in the bargain.
Like Mexico they keep citizens from having a weapon yet actually release dangerous people from jail, in this case just to balance the budget without hurting welfare recipients that vote for them.
And when people start crying about the thugs on the street they will pony up GUN CONTROL (as if Illinois in general and Chicago in particular doesn't have alot of that.)
Come to think of it, in Vietnam the VC had guns, Army had guns, but civilians had nada. Mexico to. And so that explains quite alot.
TGILIT (thank God I live in Texas.
Quinn, Rahm and the rest of the democrat assholes just don't get it. Let killers run wild with weapons and keep law abiding citizens without protection. Not in my book.
Protect yourself good citizens no matter what the knuckleheads say or threaten. 49 states are right. Get a firearm, get trained and keep your firearm out of arms way.
And IL will soon have concealed carry.
MS
And just think - a couple days ago we had a downstate county come out to our district and pick up dude wanted on a child support warrant.
Bond was $1000 "C" bond (not "D", mind you), which of course he couldn't post. At least some counties in this state still believe in justice.
quinn and all those so called do gooders should be locked up and sued by anyone who is victimized by an early release shithead.Also make these prisons real prisons, no tv except cartoons, NO wieghtrooms,punching bags etc.Everyone knows why the shitheads want them,don't be stupid.I know thats a lot to ask from politicians but they could be on the wrong side of one of these assholes one day.Wise up!
To to 1/12/2013 06:58:00 PM
"If the system worked"??????
Right, blame others for your lack of a moral compass. What a joke you are!
How about making the right decisions in the first place? If you went to jail 5 times, how many crimes did you commit? Remember that most of the people viewing this sight have a law enforcement background and understand that you got many chances before you first went bye-bye.
On the surface it appears you have turned your life around. Bubbling near the surface is a person who suffers from being convinced that you can not do anything for yourself (the Gov't will provide) and that you are a victim. I wish you well.
"You mean it will not be like the old days when you could follow the Cook County bus to Joliet to see how many of the "sentenced" would come back the same day?"
1/12/2013 01:33:00 PM
SORT is careful about that. Had problems before. Rolling block on entrance ramps for quite a ways. Chase car didn't do anything?
"Anybody with less than a year (later two years) to serve was back in the hood."
I'm not sure, but I seem to remember "61 days" as a minimum stay for accounting purposes.
politicians are turds.
Any judge or prison comittee who releases a felon before he does his time should be hanged.Same goes for gov.These assholes on both sides get off too easy.
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