Welcome to Obamacare
As predicted by anyone with a brain (who pays attention to stuff):
- House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi famously said of Obamacare: “We have to pass the bill so that you can find out what’s in it.“
Nearly three years later, many Americans are beginning to discover what’s in it.
Taco Bell employees in Oklahoma City, Okla.,found out.
Wendy’s employees in Obama, Neb., found out.
And now many other low-wage workers (and their relatives) are finding out, too.
Employers are cutting hours to under 28 a week so they don't have to pay for mandatory health care. To make up the difference in wages, people are going to have to get another job (part-time), that also won't pay for health care.
Freaking brilliant!
Freaking brilliant!
Labels: national politics
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
62 Comments:
Many states in his country at looking to secede from the county,because of things like his,and Obama wants to have no more term limits to be president for life !
great now the average joe/joan blow slob gets to work two MINIMUM wage jobs and still have NO coverage
profits go up for the employer employee cost go down
you would think that they would have seen this coming
Government is not the answer, in fact, it's the problem. An even bigger problem is a president that believes government is the answer while also having no business or economic common sense. Obama is a danger to what made this country so great. God help us.
I thought the democrats were supposed to be the party of the working man.
Appearently not anymore.
No wounder they want us dissarmed.
There is a large segment of the voters who have nowhare to turn but the cartridge box.
I hear Obama Nebraska is beautiful this time of year.
God's honest truth...was talking to a kid that works for the Chgo Park Dist tonight. He just got his hours cut from 35hrs to 30hrs/week because of Obummercare. How was this constitutional?? Fucking democrats.
hahaha will this get people to wake up in 4 years?
they voted 4 him
Well there's your job growth for ya.
See.. look at those labor reports. we're adding jobs so the economy MUST be growing, right?
I mean pull out those Obama job creation reports and charts and look at all those jobs he created. See them?
Hahaha. JobStats / CompStats what's the diff?
Washington is protecting the big pharma's it's not a free market.
We brag about all the money that is spent on health care here and act like we care about our people because of it. Also act like because we spend so much that the care is better.
The reality is that Americans are being forced to pay for all the drug companies R&D expenses. We are subsidizing our drugs for the rest of the world so they pay a lower price.
It's a self made crisis like Quinn closing prisons and then crying about how the prisons are overcrowded.
Instead of re-importing prescription meds that are made by the same companies offshore and cost pennies on the dollar we use this health care crisis to cut our benefits and raise our co-pays instead.
Big pharma has the congress bought and paid for period! You can put in a Republican, You can put in a Democrat and it doesn't take long for either of them to sell us out for the campaign contribution money.
I work with several officer's who voted for Obama and thought Obamacare was going to be great. Fuck all you P.O's who voted this bastard in AGAIN!
hahaha will this get people to wake up in 4 years?
1/12/2013 03:41:00 AM
LOL! They all got what they voted for! It's kind of funny watching them reap what they have sown.
Pompei Restaurant located at Sheffield and Wellington closed their doors too! They been there for 25 years and all of a sudden closed and everyone out of work! Thanks Obamacare!
Who ever thought we'd see THIS day?
Supreme Court To Hear Case On Obama's Alleged Forged Documents
On Wednesday, Chief Justice John Roberts of the Supreme Court scheduled a birther case brought on by Orly Taitz which calls into question Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility to be president of the United States. Dr. Taitz, a lawyer from Santa Margarita, Calif., also made the announcement on her website on Jan. 9.
As of this writing, major news networks such as ABC, Fox News, CBS, and NBC have yet to report on the high court's decision to review Barack Hussein Obama's eligibility to hold political office in the United States or any of its territories.
On Feb. 15, all nine justices will hear arguments on whether Obama used forged government documents and fake identification in order to get elected as commander-in-chief.
http://www.examiner.com/article/supreme-court-to-hear-case-on-obama-s-alleged-forged-documents
Does anyone else find the Mayors latest "debt and wage" plan interesting? More specifically consider this...
Emanuel wage and debt protection plans hit bump
"[...]... But Ald. Emma Mitts, 37th, the committee chairwoman, said officials from hospitals and other companies worry they would unintentionally run afoul of the debt collection ordinance while trying to compel people to pay for medical procedures and other services. The mayor's plan would require anyone trying to collect a business debt to keep detailed records of contact with the debtor and any payments made, and would allow for cash penalties and up to six months in jail for violations"
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I find it curious that the issue of hospitals collecting their debts is brought up.
Why? Well remember this:
Rahm tries to squash probe of health care collection company
In this article in the Minneapolis StarTribune, Minnesota Attorney General Lori Swanson reveals that Rahm Emanuel sent her a letter requesting she hold off her pursuit of Accretive Health. Accretive Health has been under fire for their collection practices at Fairview Hospitals in the Twin Cities and is being investigated for possible violations of federal law.
Accretive Health was hired by Fairview as an outsourced collection agency, although they have dressed up their role in all sorts of flowery language....[..]
{...}...They would routinely ask people in the emergency room for payment up front and imply that was necessary before receiving care. Their practices are well documented in this article from the StarTribune. Eventually Fairview kicked them out.
Accretive Health is a Chicago-based company, so they turned to their local Democratic fixer, Rahm, to take care of the matter. We need better Democrats like Lori Swanson working for the 99% instead of like Rahm Emanuel carrying water for the greedy and shady 1%.
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Rahm really went out of his way to try and get the Minn AG to back off didn't he..Why?
Now put two and two together with the debt collection scheme/proposal.
Oh, so the hospitals are worried about the record keeping under the mayor's proposal?
Huh, well what do you know. That's Accretive Health's business, Hospital debt collection and record keeping!
Oh I know...If the hospitals are worried maybe they should give the business to Accretive Health eh?
Who are we helping/protecting?
Maybe it's like the Chicago parking meter operation whereas the Federal government gives us a tax deduction to help us pay for our parking.
Are they not so generous?
However the tax incentive also increases the profits of the Chicago outsourced parking meter business.
Yeah we'll give you a tax break and you get to pass the money that you saved on taxes straight to Chicago Parking Meter LLC overseas.
Now you get to make up for the lost Fed income tax money that the Fed could of used to pay down the debt, build infrastructure or create jobs.
It's almost like money laundering when you think about it.
Is the tax break given because they care about us, or in Chicago's case given to benefit the anon investors that own the Chicago parking meter business -- that are located in Abu Dhabi -- that keeps the money from trickling down here?
Is Rahm's "debt and wage" ordinance scheme about protect us, the citizens of Chicago or about tailor making a city ordinance to help companies like Accretive Health? Do we have any other companies like Accretive Health in Chicago that would perhaps benefit from this proposal?
Follow the money!
Please stop saying shit like "obama wants no more term limits" because you sound like a retarded, right wing nut. The same person who propsed that has proposed it since Reagan, under Republicans and Democrats. The sky isnt falling.
The insurance companies wrote the bill. They passed it without even reading it. Now we're getting fucked. Insurance premium are already doubling up and this is just the beginning. They are imposing "medical" tax already on stuff such as band aids etc. They have DEATH PANELS to decide whether to give grandma care or let her die so they can hire 2 teachers for what they would spend on her care. It's not obama care - it's DEATH CARE.
ObaMAO's legacy will be massive unemployment, a broken economy and perhaps a civil war.
He wanted to be like Lincoln, but he's not a Republican, doesn't love America and isn't honest. He will get that civil war, though. That's like Lincoln, right?
if people did not wake up in the last four years, they will not wake up in the next four.
Now, kees me you fool!!!!
"profits go up for the employer employee cost go down"
Employer costs don't go down. Instead of 20 people working 40 hours they will need 29 people working 28 hours. The total hours will stay the same. And if anything, even if they avoid Obamacare, cost will go up due to more complex scheduling and higher operating costs (more people to hire, more training).
Yep. And now if you sell your house, the government takes a whopping percentage off the top to fund Obamacare along with the realtor's cut. Bye bye American Dreams. NOTHING pisses me off more than Obamacare. It's a big bunch of fluff muddled with some dangerous taxation and regulations.
Good. Fuck them. 90 - 95% of the assholes that work at Wendy's, MAC Donald's and Taco Bell are Democrats who swept this jackass into office. I hope they have to get three jobs.
Fucking mindless jagoffs. They thought Obama was a cool president. He hip y'all. Don't vote for that cracker Romney. He finna make us go to work. Where we gonna get our free shit at? Aw hell no.
In the words of one of their most respected leaders, "The chickens have come home to roost."
Citizen Gigi
Well, they voted for "hope and change" right?? So they got what they wanted. Hope they get can afford insurance and a change of jobs to get it.
Enjoy all you idiotic, left wing dreamers who voted for this numbskull. Do your homework next time.
"you would think that they would have seen this coming"
Look for another executive order to prohibit cutting employee's hours...
"was talking to a kid that works for the Chgo Park Dist tonight. He just got his hours cut from 35hrs to 30hrs/week because of Obummercare."
What?? I thought the city supports Obama & all of his wonderful ideas!!
This is what it will lead too:
We will be forced to accept Obama-Care thru our employer BUT will have the option to pay out-of-pocket for a secondary coverage such as Blue Cross of Illinois. This secondary coverage will be optional that we will have to pay for out of our own pockets.
Much like MediCare and secondary coverage for Seniors.
Anonymous said...
hahaha will this get people to wake up in 4 years?
Nope. Stupid is as stupid does. Besides, more folks will be on govt assistance so they will have no choice but to vote dem again. That's the plan. That's the Chicago way!
Not a cop here...MONTHS ago we started noticing that all our new job openings are all 28 hour weeks at my place of employment. Now we know why. All new employees will be part time, no benefits. Ah, yes, government in action.
Why is it that I knew shit like this was going to happen if the president got re-elected ,but no one else that voted for him did ? IDIOTS !!!!
Keep buying weapons and ammo,economic collapse is coming!!
"hahaha will this get people to wake up in 4 years?"
I doubt it.
Why is it everyone is so mad at Obama but noone is upset at the big CEO's and executives of the companies responsible for cutting the hours??
I understand they are doing it because its what's most cost effective for their bottom line but then at what point are CEO's and executives responsible for providing decent wages and benefits for their employees especially while they are enjoying million dollar salaries. They are the same people after all claiming they are the "job creators" and these are the same companies recieving numerous tax breaks.
And before you all jump down my throat about small businesses I'm not referring to them I'm only referring to large companies. Because if you actually know about Obamacare there are provisions in place to protect the small business
The next Athens Greece.
There's a reason for the politicians wanting to abolish firearms.
It's to prevent the next Revolution.
Low wage workers, paying for free loaders right to bear off spring, overburdened governments can't keep up with pension debts because of the same entitlement obligations to that constituency.
Don't be too surprised if a Third Term debate starts up.
Some smaller companies are opting to drop the insurance they were providing. It will be cheaper for them to pay the fine ooops I mean tax then the premiums for their employees.
Maybe they can go on welfare to make up the difference!
Anonymous said...
great now the average joe/joan blow slob gets to work two MINIMUM wage jobs and still have NO coverage
profits go up for the employer employee cost go down
you would think that they would have seen this coming
1/12/2013 12:41:00 AM
What makes you think they DIDN'T see this coming ? If they didn't they would have included something in the bill to dis-allow it.
Yep and the effects of the payroll tax break expiring are kicking in now too.
Remember in Dec 2010?
Obama decided to give everyone a payroll tax break of 2% to stimulate the economy.
Money was taken out of our FICA social security retirement fund so that fund would go bust sooner. Robbing peter to pay paul.
Remember that?
Well many people may not remember it because the minute the Illinois politicians saw that we got a tax break at the Fed level, the Illinois politicians IMMEDIATELY raised the Illinois State income tax by the same 2% taking any and all the benefits from that Fed tax break away.
The people in Illinois never saw a tax break.
Heh, and you wonder why Illinois unemployment has not recovered like other states?
And you wonder why the Food Stamp caseloads have kept climbing in Illinois to the point where we now have over 2 million people on the program.
Yeah, you may not remember because you never saw the benefit. The state grabbed the money knowing that people were less likely to miss what they never had.
But now it's time to pay the piper.
The Payroll Tax break was allowed to expire Jan 1, 2013 and Illinoisan's will get a 2% reduction in their take home pay. The Illinois income tax increase is not expiring though.
So if you thought that you were going back to the state you were in way back in Dec 2010 you'd be wrong.
If you earn $50K/year we're talking about $1,000/yr less in take home pay or about $85/month. If you significant other earns $50K/yr there's another $85/month out of her check.
That shouldn't be a problem in the World-Class city now should it?
Like parking has only gone up 15%. Public transportation has only gone up 16%. Our property taxes are running up by 7% per year and inflation is at a minimum of 3%/year increase. So getting a wage cut of 2% when EVERYTHING else is going in the opposite direction should be no big deal at all, right? Right?
Meanwhile the cook county debt per person is about $87K and the State pension debt load from skipped payments way up.
All these outstanding Illinois bonds which are basically loans under a bond label are about to be downgraded again and that will raise the interest rate we have to pay on these loans.
I have to laugh. The bond holders think that they are protected because of some Illinois law.
I think the bond holders should have a chat with the Illinois pension holders and ask how well the laws are working in their favor!
The bond holders are likely to be the favored ones though because if you eff with them there will be no more bond sales/loans to Illinois.
Anyways watch the layoffs come down and we'll see.
Why hasn't anyone asked the question:
"Where's all the NATO inspired tourism benefits"?
We are supposed to be rolling in the dough! Yet the city is raising public transportation cost, parking cost, adding fines, fees, licensing, and all kind of other fees. What happened to the NATO inspired tourist!?
Illinois is lagging the nation on Employment and now we are just beginning to feel the effects of yet another tax increase.
Oh yeah..crime is down. HA! Wait and see. The mayor, governor and president are out of touch with no clue.
Wait until Rahm cries poormouth again about us in contract negotiations. I wont put it past him to get rid of our health plans, and dump us in the "health exchanges" stating he had to cut costs. Paying the fine is much much cheaper than providing a health plan to the city personnel. We will be in some version of medicaid.
Elections mean things
As much as I dislike our current Government, this is just shitty on the part of big corporations. There is a balancing act somewhere, and I don't know who is to blame more, but people who work at those fast food places aren't exactly making a living wage to begin with.
1/12/2013 03:41:00 AM, I hope so, but somehow doubt it. A law can't cover "every" situation. Obviously, ObamaCare doesn't employers reducing employee hours.
I didnt vote for Obama. neither did any of my friends, neighbors and family. Most but not all of my co-workers didnt vote for him either. but the dude still won the election. 1/2 the country obviously wants America to be distroyed. I sense some sort of revolution or civil war of sorts by the American people as times gets worse to get the United States back to the way it should be. Do away with Big Government, Socialism, SS and Welfare abuse and out of control government spending.
.... of topic..."we the people"... don't need assault rifles! only single action six shot revolvers and lever actions should be allowed!!!
yours truly,
McWhatsmynamebitch!!!
Assome observers commented on Obama Czare, the real intent of the law was to eventually force most employees into the state insurance plans, which are the forrunner of universal insurance. If you want a glimpse what that will look like, just talk to anyone who does not have insurance and has to be treated at Cook County Hospsital . You do not make appointments with a doctor or specialist. You attend a " clinic" and wait your turm along with hundreds of others each and every time you need to see a doctor. Plan on going early and coming home late.
No wounder they want us dissarmed.
There is a large segment of the voters who have nowhare to turn but the cartridge box.
1/12/2013 01:38:00 AM
Hey Chicken little, the sky is not yet falling. You better hope those days never come. this is a great country and the people will right the ship eventually. Have faith. Calling for people to arm themselves and start shooting is such a bd idea and causes you to lose your crediability ( as if you ever had any)
hahaha? We are probably next.
Pelosi said it's a great plan, but she is not in it because her's is better!
Those employees are being advised to contact a civil rights attorney so they can investigate if this is a new type of Rights Violation.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Many states in his country at looking to secede from the county,because of things like his,and Obama wants to have no more term limits to be president for life !
1/12/2013 12:14:00 AM
Please remember to Inventory the seized Crack and not smoke it, moron.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
great now the average joe/joan blow slob gets to work two MINIMUM wage jobs and still have NO coverage
profits go up for the employer employee cost go down
you would think that they would have seen this coming
1/12/2013 12:41:00 AM
Actually the employers would still have to pay the increases and fine for not providing coverage that is approved by the Affordable Health Care Act. Read the Act, it's in writing that they can't dodge all of it.
I smell a REVOLUTION!!!
The ones who are going to be hurt the most will be the ones who voted for him. It's not just those min. Wage jobs employees that will lose hours, it will also be those above min wage too. F...ing A. You deserve every raw bend over session you got coming your way.
"profits go up for the employer employee cost go down"
Nothing could be further from the truth. The employer has hired all the current full-time employees because he _needs_ that many to conduct business based on the size and popularity of his business. If he could pay these exhorbitant taxes for Obamacare for all his current employees---and still manage to stay in business---he would. But he can't. He has to reduce their hours or go out of business---that's his choice.
Believe it or not, a certain amount of profit is necessary for a company to stay in business. If you think otherwise, you are hopelessly stupid.
Comrade Obama and the Left may try to make it illegal for employers to reduce their employees' hours, but they can't make it illegal for them to go out of business unless the government bails them out with public funds.
You see where this is going? Welcome to the USSA.
"God's honest truth...was talking to a kid that works for the Chgo Park Dist tonight. He just got his hours cut from 35hrs to 30hrs/week because of Obummercare"
He's a Liar, The Park District cut full time workers to 30 hours to avoid paying medical back in 1989. The Kid wasnt even a wet dream back then.
The day is coming when you're better off just staying home. If you work and earn a dollar more than your neighbor, then you're a target.
Hope and Change my ass.
Hey Chicken little, the sky is not yet falling. You better hope those days never come. this is a great country and the people will right the ship eventually. Have faith. Calling for people to arm themselves and start shooting is such a bd idea and causes you to lose your crediability ( as if you ever had any)
Actually, you should wake up. A storm is brewing and things could get pretty ugly in this country. This ship is sinking and it's sinking fast. Make changes to the second amendment or take gun rights away, and you're really going to see problems.
As far as people getting their hours cut, if they voted for this asshole president, I don't feel sorry for them. All of a sudden, Obama voters are now paying attention? It's a little too late to pull your heads out of your asses.
obama is trying his best to destroy the United States,if you can't see that by now you must be blind!!
Anonymous said...
I thought the democrats were supposed to be the party of the working man.
Appearently not anymore.
No wounder they want us dissarmed.
There is a large segment of the voters who have nowhare to turn but the cartridge box.
1/12/2013 01:38:00 AM
No,they are the party of the uber-left, marxist elites, illegals and leeches, not necessarily mutually exclusive.
Anonymous said...
Pompei Restaurant located at Sheffield and Wellington closed their doors too! They been there for 25 years and all of a sudden closed and everyone out of work! Thanks Obamacare!
1/12/2013 05:42:00 AM
They were not there 25yrs. Not even 20. That place was a dry cleaners in the early-mid 90's. The Taylor St. location also closed. The one in Shaumburg closed about 6 months ago.
Anonymous said...
"God's honest truth...was talking to a kid that works for the Chgo Park Dist tonight. He just got his hours cut from 35hrs to 30hrs/week because of Obummercare"
He's a Liar, The Park District cut full time workers to 30 hours to avoid paying medical back in 1989. The Kid wasnt even a wet dream back then.
Uh, no, he isn't lying. He's an hourly instuctor, and just got his hours cut.
The same thing is happening at Dennys, Olive Garden, Red Lobster and McDonalds. Shocking.
As much as I dislike our current Government, this is just shitty on the part of big corporations. There is a balancing act somewhere, and I don't know who is to blame more, but people who work at those fast food places aren't exactly making a living wage to begin with.
1/12/2013 12:08:00 PM
Hey. Fuck off. Obama and these jag off democrats rammed this shit down everyone's throat to manufacture a legacy.
Nobody wanted it. I hope the companies get the last laugh.
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