Constitution? What Constitution?
Illinois is the breeding ground for so many ignorant politicians. We can't believe any of them passed a civics course.
Example #1 - Court rulings? Ignore them!
- Prosecutors in Chicago are telling state lawmakers they can essentially ignore a federal court ruling and not legalize concealed carry in Illinois.
The Illinois House on Tuesday held the first of two statewide hearings on how to legally allow people to carry a gun in the state. Illinois is the only state in the nation that bars anyone from carrying a pistol outside their home. In December, the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals said Illinois must change that.
But Paul Castiglione, policy director for the Cook County State’s Attorney’s office, told lawmakers there is no need for a new law.
“Only the Illinois Supreme Court can declare a statue from (the legislature) unconstitutional,” Castiglione told lawmakers Tuesday. “I heard (someone) say that after 180 days our UUW (unlawful use of weapon) statute is unconstitutional. Not so.”
Really? And this guy writes policy for Anita? The link above is to the Illinois Carry website and the readers there (who have actually read the Constitution) rip this ass a new one many times over.
And who needs Freedom of Speech?
And who needs Freedom of Speech?
- A recently introduced bill in the Illinois state Senate would require anonymous website comment posters to reveal their identities if they want to keep their comments online.
The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein. It states that a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”
The Democratic lawmaker’s bill, which does not ask for or clarify requirements from entities requesting the comment removal, would take effect 90 days after becoming law.
Pseudonymous and anonymous comments have long been a critical part of U.S. public discourse, though, and the bill may be on shaky legal ground.
"Shaky legal ground" might be the understatement of the year. Thomas Paine and John Milton are turning over in their graves.
Labels: silly people
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
84 Comments:
Sounds more like a communist policy rather than a democratic one
That is really great news. It means that forums such as this have so frightened the socialists, that they are passing unconstitutional laws to prevent the free speech and thought that comes with them.
The next step after letting the truth out is revolution. The socialist tyrants need to go.
Fuck you.
Anonymous
P.S. Go fetch your fucking shine box, you filthy socialist tyrant fucking piece of human excrement. I'm a free American man. Your time is coming soon.
Says Anonymous: FUCK YOU, SILVERSTEIN!
Says, Anonymous: Where the fuck did you go to school?
Says, Anonymous: Pass your law and use me as your test case, Ira. I will be more than happy to share my name with you in a law suit.
Says, Anonymous: Ira, go fuck yourself, oh, I'm sorry, I already anonymously said that.
Go back to school, Ira. If all sorts of protesters can cover their faces as they hurl slurs and insults in public, why can't people be anonymous in their postings? And not just on this web site, which you and the democrats seem so afraid of, but on ANY website that takes your fascism to task?
You, Mr. Silverstein, deserve the Asshat of the Year Award.
Hi, my new screen name is Ira Silverstein. I'd like everyone to please tell me to fuck off. In fact, I'll start, myself... Hey Ira...fuck off!
Signed,
Ira Silverstein
Ira Silverstein. Proving yet again, that Durbin isn't the only DICK senator from Illinois...!
Once again, Crook County government showing their arrogance and willingness to waste your tax dollar.
Although the president has shown his share of political arrogance when he doesn't get his way, too.
All I have to say is WOW. SCC you must be really getting to them!
Yeah, because we know it all ends well for people who send things out anonymously - Just ask Hans and Sophie Scholl, executed 70 years ago today for their "treasonous" leaflets.
SCC - keep up the good work - I'll remember you in my prayers.
"a “web site administrator upon request shall remove any comments posted on his or her web site by an anonymous poster unless the anonymous poster agrees to attach his or her name to the post and confirms that his or her IP address, legal name, and home address are accurate.”
Cool. Now we can kill Tribune stories unless the reporters give their home addresses.
Look what Janet Hasson started, huh?
The funny part is that, except for a minority of jag offs that like to suck ass and grab guns for Rahm, the majority of cops will turn their guns on the politicians when the time comes.
That's why they will try to take your guns first. You had to register them, so they know where to come and take them. Then they will issue you a government gun and tell you to go and grab the citizens' guns.
Choose a side now. The time is growing short.
All rights cease to exist when one enters the territory of the Peoples Republic of Chicago. You can have your guns taken from your trunk after shooting at the range, have your home invaded and property confiscated after you die, have your right to open a business denied because you dared to say your religion doesn't support homosexuality, and have your right to defend yourself on your own streets denied while the police department is allowed to run on a skeleton crew.
But, then again, you voted for the socialists, so it must be what you wanted.
How is it that what was considered obscene just a few short decades ago is now something that politicians can say and it goes largely unnoticed?
Silverstein, did someone hurt your feelings? Were you bullied in high school? The bones of Saul Alinsky and Abby Hoffman, your fellow liberals, are shaking in there graves.
I swore to support and defend the Constitution of the United States of America when I joined the Army and when I joined the police.
That Constitution will not be trampled on by McDumbfuck and his theories on public opinion poll rights or his socialist political masters who want nothing more than an end to liberty so they can have absolute power.
You socialists will all pay when the time comes, and the people will hunt you for your crimes. Free men will never allow tyrants to enslave them without a fight.
Constitution? In crook county? In this shitty? As the rest of the nation laughs at us, this city and county continue to violate the constitution and put good citizens in danger. The criminals and lazy do nothings get more respect and government support compared to victims of crime.
Prosecutors in Chicago? LOL. That's a real oxymoron.
If they were any good, they wouldn't be working in the SA's office.
If the prosecutors did their job, we would not be having this discussion. Unfortunately, they failed so now people need real protection and they are turning to Beretta, Colt, Smith & Wesson for justice. I don't blame them.
My advice to Anita and her gang of Merry men, start doing your job and quit being such political hacks. You embarass those of us who really know the law.
Next case.
Will some one speak up for us? Will someone help us?
This sounds a lot like 1935 just before dear Adolph took away their free speech and their guns! They already want our guns!
Is this history repeating it self, what next mass inprisonment of rebellious individuals.
Ira is just following Rahmulus's orders..They hate it when an shining light is shone on their corruption and stupidity..They started the process of destroying the 2nd Amendment,now they want to destroy the 1st Amendment..Hey,America;how that's Hope & Change working out for ya? 50 million people on Welfare,gas averages $4.00 a gallon(104% higher since 2009),higher taxes across the board,Obamacare is going to cost you $3000 to $3500 extra every year,federal tax rate will increase to 40% for the average taxpayer..Enjoy it you dumb shits,you wanted it,now you got it..
Mark Twain wouldn't like this one bit!
Sounds like Lisa Stone got to the moronic Senator. Who is Lisa Stone? Google her name or better yet, ask your colleagues with the Buffalo Grove Police Dept. Be prepared for a good laugh and shake of the head.
send in the Marines and the rest of our military to clean house in this state!
Thanks SSC for continuing to be a supporter of private gun ownership and a defender of the second ammendment.
we law abiding citizens support you and what you do in kind.
keep up the good work, and stay safe!
citizen
Not to mention this NOLA loser;
"To reduce the homicides and shootings plaguing Chicago streets, elected officials should consider calling on the state and federal governments for help, even the National Guard if necessary, said a retired Army lieutenant general who spearheaded the military response after Hurricane Katrina."
"Just like we do with any disaster. When the tornado comes, or the floods come, the federal government comes in to help," Russel L. Honore said Thursday at a news conference in Chicago.
ANONYMOUS says:
I'm sorry, I thought the Alien and Sedition Acts were deemed unconstitutional and one of the LOW points in American presidential history.
Freedom of speech covers the left, but not the right.
Grab your modern musket; meet me on the green.
Yes, lets do this since everybody who wrote the Constitution would agree entirely.
Better notice the pattern here; attack on 2nd Amendment and now attack on 1st Amendment .
Wake the f**k up people, so called Democrats won't stop until they erase the Constitution or try to, they won't stop until stopped.
Wow, actually John Marshall established the right of the US Supreme Court to review state laws for constitutionality back in 1825. Georgia didn't like it then, it seems Illinois doesn't like it now, but that's the way it is.
What is it about Democratic lawmakers that makes them constantly look for things to take away from people? These asshats never stop trying to control others.
Would someone please sue these assholes back to the stone age..
signed ANONYMOUS via the US CONSTITUTION YOU FUCKIN DICKHEADS
Here is a list of the IL state senators. Let them know what you think
http://www.ilga.gov/senate/
Can you imagine all the liberals and teens stopping the blogging of their stupid "internet truths and plain gossip and cyber bullying" because they will be uncovered? Please, who is going to enforce all this, what budget, how do you know who is using a twitter account that belongs to someone else? I just sit here with my brain exploding.
Should we expect anything less from Machine Statists?
The State's Attorney is ignorant of the law, which is no surprise, whereas Ira is simply ignorant. Ira deserves some anonymous ridicule.
Illustrating Chicagoland Idiocy, Mayhem and Stupidity at heyjackass.com
maybe we could have approved comments loaded in the comment sections of these web sites. then you can remain anonymous and express your approved by the machine comment.
Nothing better to do in this state than to sponsor a bit to force people to lose their anonymity online? Must be nice to have a politician's job. Good thing politicians make this such a great state to live in. Low crime, zero unemployment, low taxes, no politicians in prison...oh wait.
Apparently our legislators have never heard of "Publius" which was the pseudonym/pen name used collectively by Alexander Hamilton, James Madison, and John Jay when they published The Federalist Papers.
The Federalist Papers was a collection of essays which were published by the above named authors which are credited by many with persuading the States to ratify the US Constitution.
If our scumbag legislators were around in those days, Hamilton, Madison, and Jay would not have had the freedom to publish those critical essays under a pen name, and our Constitution might not have been ratified.
This guy Castilione is a complete embarrassment to the legal profession. Only the Illinois Sup Ct can declare an Illinois law unconstituional? Are you eff'in kidding me?
Where the hell was he when they taught Civil Procedure, smokin weed behind the law school?
Not a LEO, just a lawyer.
Vote them all out.
The bill, called the Internet Posting Removal Act, is sponsored by Illinois state Sen. Ira Silverstein
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just a thought, but this kind of stuff is far more frightening than any threat to our guns - this is big stuff here
(and ya guns are important, I am just saying)
Let me guess, Ira Silverstein is a liberal socialist democrat? Right?
no shi- chicago and crook county refuse to enforce immigration laws ,which is a burden on tax payers , look at all the schools built to educate illegals , police processing gang bangin illegals
The latest hearing on CCW takes place in Chicago today. I heard McStreetlight is going to speak. Bet he makes a touchdown FOR OUR SIDE. LOL.
I think they're coming for SCC! You've pissed someone off.
good reading bout the same thing here
http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/02/21/chicagos-ostrich-strategy/
Thye 7th Circuit just denied Little Lisa's request for an en banc hearing.
Tick tick tick. The 180 day closck continues to tick away......
http://www.ca7.uscourts.gov/fdocs/docs.fwx?submit=rss_sho&shofile=12-1269_003.pdf
I dunno SCC, it seems like this idiot doesn't want to just shut up anybody up, but wants to shut you and your commenters up.
That is some scary thinking....first the "ignore the Supreme Court", then restrict freedom of speech.
This country is headed for civil war.
I'm baffled as to how anyone that works for a living can punch the DemocRAT ticket?! IL is such an embarrassment.
Didn't Silversteeeen swear an Oath to defend our freedoms???? Why is this so hard?
To the John Milton fan:
Milton was an anonymous "pamphleteer," during the reign of Cromwell.
The media will fight this one!
you ever read a news story and one of the lines states "information from a reliable source in the department."
1st guns
2nd free speech
3rd over taxation
We live in scary times no wonder gun sales are up!
Just in..
"Court to Madigan: No rehearing on concealed-carry guns ruling"
Ha!
The court don't realize who they are dealing with!! She's a MADIGAN!! She'll call Daddy and then there will be some trouble.
Piss some more Illinois money away that we don't have and take it to the supreme court Lisa. They obviously don't know who they are dealing with.
Hell it's only taxpayer money -- they have bottomless pockets -- why should you and your clan give two shits.
Now that Lisa Madigan got shut down on her Federal court appeal regarding conceal carry it would be a good time to call in the National Guard to "help control the Chicago violence" wouldn't it?
The Chicago Trib has already sent up the trial balloon about "calling in the troops to do the job just like they did for hurricane Katrina" -- to see what kind of push back / reaction the city gets.
During Katrina the troops went door to door confiscating weapons "for your own safety"
So yeah. Would not surprise me one bit. If Chicago runs out of appeal options it's time for martial law, curfews, troops in the streets and gun collections.
Tin foil hat stuff??
Well you look at some of these psychopath elected officials and decide.
BIG Government keeps growing and growing and growing. The want to control everything around you and ultimately control YOU. Ira must be getting upset that too many people are talking and voicing their minds and better yet, calling politicians out on all the public blogs stating the truth about whats going on in our government.
Interesting right off the ISRA web site Lisa Madiagan gets Biatch slapped by The Federal Appeals Court today her request for a full panel hearing was DENIED. Of course the ISRA published the opinion so you could read it , while the Fibune had to highlight it was a divided panel "The arguments made in the dissent, written by Judge David Hamilton, could bolster Madigan’s cause if she appeals to the nation’s high court." A hearty FUCK YOU to the Fibune for adding there opinion to the "news" abd closing off the comments section.....
Illinois House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Gun Legislation -- (LIVE youtube stream)
So far we've heard :
NRA lobbyist Todd Vandermyde is final witness; he's reiterating court's decision that #IL must pass #concealedcarry
Todd Vandermyde, rep from NRA, said concealed carry is a right not a privilege
Mother of son who was killed by #gun violence testifying now; man outside the room yells "Liberty or death
McCarthy pushes heavily for stricter sentencing on unlawful use of weapons; Nekritz asks for evidence that works
McCarthy: When criminals look at system as a joke, they'll keep committing crime. We must implement mandatory minimum sentencing
Supt. McCarthy calls for reasonable #gun laws - "Gun violence is something we can do something about today.
When asked if #IL State Police should help patrol Englewood, McCarthy said more police presence doesn't deter crime
McCarthy said CPD does not need support patrolling the streets in Englewood from State Police
McCarthy asked if state police would be useful in patrolling high crime areas like Englewood. He says presence does not equal deterrence.
Still, McCarthy says he wouldn't turn away support. But said he needs it more on investigations side.
I am anonymous. I am anonymous. I am anonymous. Don't attempt to intimidate us with unconstitutional laws. Ira have you heard of the U.S. Constitution. Read it, learn it, live it, love it, it guarantees your rights as a U.S. Citizen. I remain anonymous
Amazing.
More comments on:
Illinois House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Gun Legislation Feb 22. 2013
Also questions suggestion Chicago PD can't deal w concealed carry, says other major cities made it work, is CPD that poorly trained?
NRA witness starts saying #gaymarriage about to be passed and lawmakers think ppl south of I80 are Neanderthals, but he was cut off by chair
Vandermyde compared civil rights and said that concealed carry legislation should be moved as quickly as gay marriage bill
Parents testifying with children killed by guns; Ron Holt says if #guns allowed on #CTA, more ppl would've been shot when his son was killed
Ronald Holt holds up picture of son Blair, a victim to Chicago's #gun violence, during testimony "We have to think with civility.
McCarthy: #1 cause of death for Black men, homicide by gunshot.
McCarthy says 80% of shootings are gang members; but those shootings not necessarily driven by gang wars
Supt. McCarthy says concealed carry in any venue with alcohol presents danger to the public
McCarthy: I'm concerned that giving someone a 10 hour training course is not enough. That's a problem
McCarthy: I have never seen an illegal gun offender with a FOID card. I have no concern with legal guns. Great concern w/illegal guns.
Sup. McCarthy spending lots of time on lost, stolen guns & extent of illegal guns ... doesn't touch on conceal carry.
On Tuesday's hearing, NRA lobbyist took issue with training hours requirement saying they're not cops
More...
Illinois House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Gun Legislation
Rep Drury and NRA's Vandermyde arguing over deadline of #concealedcarry; crowd starting to yell
"I'm not the king of IL, I'm a lobbyist," said Vandermyde in response to problems with #gun control
NRA Rep kicked ass today at the Illinois House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Gun Legislation.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh8Jo99GJ7g&feature=player_embedded
He mentioned the bust last week of the man from out of state being charged with UUW for having weapons in his trunk returning from the range.
Pointed out how that conflicted with McCarthy's comments that garry is not worried about the FOID carrying gun owners.
Said the city has a history of abuse when it comes to gun ownership instead of dealing in good faith and that the NRA is not going to let it happen again.
NRA asked if it will wait on concealed carry until proper procedures in place to implement, lobbyist says they have already waited.
NRA rep was the last to testify so he's near the end of the video.
Read the fine print of the National Health Care Bill (Obamacare).Within 3 years the Federal Tax Rate will be 50% for the Middle-Class taxpayer. Depending on which State you live in,60%-65% of your income will be going to the State & Federal governments. Oh,this isn't including City taxes and property taxes. They gotta have your hard earned money to give to the Illegals and Lifetime Welfare Abusers.
The list of people testifying at the
Illinois House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Gun Legislation
were as follows:
Dr. Karen Sheehan Lurie Children’s Hospital
Illinois Restaurant Association
Alderman Willie B Cochran
Rev. Michael Pfleger Ceasefire
Toni Preckwinkle Cook County
Dr. Paula Bradich Second Amendment Sisters
NRA Lawyer NRA
Garry McCarthy City of Chicago
Paul Castiglione Cook County State’s Attorney
Camiella Williams Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence
Val Rendel Illinois Council Against Handgun Violence
Forrest Claypool CTA
Jeanna Wrenn PACE
Jordan Matyas RTA
Laura Calderon Illinois Public Transportation Association
Rob Hoffman River Valley Metro
Sui Moy Chicago Citizens for Change
Maria Pike Chicago Citizens for Change
Yolan Henry Chicago Citizens for Change
Christine Fenno Moms Demand Action
Nicole Moms Demand Action
Amy Moms Demand Action
Todd Vandermyde NRA
Will some one speak up for us? Will someone help us?
This sounds a lot like 1935 just before dear Adolph took away their free speech and their guns! They already want our guns!
Is this history repeating it self, what next mass inprisonment of rebellious individuals.
2/22/2013 04:17:00 AM
The Lord helps those who, at least, try to help themselves.
Try getting up off of your belly, unless you've chosen the prone position for the work ahead.
Chalkie
Gawddammit SCC, sounds like that bill is specifically written to target a certain
blog that caters to sworn
Chicago Police Officers.
But it comes as no surprise because our elected officials in this state have cow-manure for brains and figure they are not accountable to anybody and can get away with any and everything.
Beware Mr. Silverstein, this could come back to bite you in your behind.
Payback is a bi*ch.
Actually Der Fuhrer put minorities in prison. He didn't attempt or consider it for the Majority. Nor did he disarm them, actually he increased gun ownership rights. For the majority.
Making the Majority "The Other" is rather an odd concept for any system of government, even tyranny.
Tyranny FAIL.
VSSC
They can't enforce convictions for breaking an unconstitutional law after they miss the deadline.
So....after reading Castiglione's remarks I guess it is possible to get a GED in law.
When Castiglione is whistled in front of the 7th Circuit Court of Appeals to explain himself, he better be wearing Depends.
SCC said...
To the John Milton fan:
Milton was an anonymous "pamphleteer," during the reign of Cromwell.
2/22/2013 11:16:00 AM
Correct. In the 1600's. In England. The country we fought a war of indepence against. I knew him best as a poet and author from high school and college literature classes. His magnum opus was Paradise Lost. But at least you know of the guy and some of what he wrote so perhaps some day we could have what might pass for intelligent conversation. And the Blackhawks just won so all is good in the world, for now.
I guess the blogs dimeing out corrupt Chicago,Illinois Cook County stuff is having an impact.Keep it up.
Anonymous said...
Read the fine print of the National Health Care Bill (Obamacare).Within 3 years the Federal Tax Rate will be 50% for the Middle-Class taxpayer. Depending on which State you live in,60%-65% of your income will be going to the State & Federal governments. Oh,this isn't including City taxes and property taxes. They gotta have your hard earned money to give to the Illegals and Lifetime Welfare Abusers.
2/22/2013 01:48:00 PM
Uh, no; not even close to reality.
well.. again the left hasn't thought this through.. for every action there is an EQUAL and OPPOSITE REACTION.. Now all the little lefty trolls will have to use their names also.. correct addresses etc.. NOW that should SCARE them how will they be able to attack, name call and threaten those that don't fall into line anonymously like they do now?? IL residents other than OBAMA free stuff suckers don't give a damn WHAT the law makers of this state say anymore.. after all we still out number them at least till Obama gets his brown shirts appointed..
Correct. In the 1600's. In England. The country we fought a war of indepence against.
Your point? It was 100 years later we fought that war. And though we threw off the chains of English monarchy, we maintained a version of courts and government based on English law. Our point was only that anonymous criticism of unjust government has a long a storied tradition, not only in this country, but in the English system itself.
And yes, the Blackhawks made history tonight. We were there.
SCC said...
Correct. In the 1600's. In England. The country we fought a war of indepence against.
Your point? It was 100 years later we fought that war. And though we threw off the chains of English monarchy, we maintained a version of courts and government based on English law. Our point was only that anonymous criticism of unjust government has a long a storied tradition, not only in this country, but in the English system itself.
And yes, the Blackhawks made history tonight. We were there.
2/22/2013 11:57:00 PM
My only point was that I felt that Milton was much better known as a poet and author than political firebrand. That's all. I was at home in front of my new 50" HDTV for the game. Damn it is good to finally have a TV that allows me to see the damn puck!
Shaky legal grounds, my aSS. It would be a clear infringement of the 1st Amendment. Anonymous speech, like any other is fully protected, unless there is an overiding government interest, and that is unlikely.
Fortunately for those who post comments, ourselves included, neither the State of Illinois, nor any other state, can enforce such a law.
The Internet was deliberately designed to not be under the control of any one authority, company or individual. The Internet is nothing more than a disparate interconnection of private devices, routing equipment and high-speed data circuits.
Since 90% of what takes place on the Internet requires traversing state lines, it is the Federal Government who might have a better chance to set, and potentially enforce, such a law.
Let's use Second City Cop as an example.
I open my browser and enter the Second City Cop URL to call up the site. I am on Comcast, so my Comcast DNS makes a call to one of several locations: downstate Illinois, the mountains outside of Denver, somewhere in Pennsylvania, or somewhere in California to find out who hosts Second City Cop on what servers.
Once the SCC URL is parsed, it may require several additional calls for updated information to locate the actual server. Those calls are probably scattered all over hell's half acre as well: Herndon Virginia; San Diego California; Seattle Washington; and many others.
Once the server is located it might not be a fixed server. In the case of Google or any one of a number vendors, it could be "in the cloud."
Some of the newer cloud servers actually use a processor in one location, memory in another, a data interface [network card] in another and drive space in another. Even those items might be moved around - all without your ever knowing it, while you are looking at the SCC pages.
So, Illinois, along with any other state, can attempt to pass any law they want pertaining to the Internet. Neither the connection, storage, or physical date are probably located within the State. Even if they are, the routing required to access them, even if the URL request originates in the State, probably travels outside the state prior to the date being returned to the caller.
Thus, this is Federal at best - and more than likely, outside the purview of the Illinois lawmakers: which is probably to the benefit of the Internet.
See, the browser, and associated IIS theory, was pretty much invented at the University of Illinois - Urbana Champaign, but the students had the foresight to get the hell out of Illinois before they improved the code. Had they not, Netscape, Google, and Microsoft would have been taxed out of existence prior to becoming successful and their employees would be struggling with pensions which were never funded.
Picture/story of the year: The American Rifleman (NRA) February 2013, pg. 80.
"The list of people testifying at the Illinois House Judiciary Committee Hearing on Gun Legislation were as follows:
"Nicole - Moms Demand Action
"Amy - Moms Demand Action"
2/22/2013 01:51:00 PM
If, as seen here, people can testify anonymously before government bodies -- and if state employees can use their first names only on state-operated web sites, as I have recently seen, not to mention state-licensed pharmacists, social workers, etc. dealing with the public on a first-name-only basis (or no name tag at all), then anonymous writings on privately-operated web logs would definitely seem to be outside of any government purview.
Right, "Amy?"
Right, "Nicole?"
Be careful what you state MR.Honore, these are citizen soldiers volunteers whose families live amongst us, they are part of us. These are not mindless conscripts who shake in their boots when you give an order.They know they do not have to obey an unlawful order,my bet is their on our side.Ira why don't you take a lesson from your landsmen in ISREAL and grow some balls.
Has anyone heard of the Federalist Papers, Publius, John Jay, Alexander Hamilton, James Madison.......
I thought we have it bad in Massachusetts!!!!!
Fuck you Ira. You fucking stupid American hating scumbag.
Hey Ira this is an excerpt from a Federal Court case.
In a lengthy and well-reasoned decision, the Tax Court surveyed federal law on whether and when courts can permit litigants to remain anonymous and can seal a case. The Tax Court further noted that the IRS treats whistleblowers as “confidential informants” and that courts frequently protect the identify of informants.
The Tax Court granted the Whistleblower’s request to protect his identity, remain anonymous, and to redact identifying information, noting:
petitioner has demonstrated a risk of harm that far exceeds in severity mere embarrassment or annoyance. The retaliation, professional ostracism, and economic duress which petitioner reasonably fears are, we believe, no less severe than the harm posed to attorneys and doctors suing to enjoin disciplinary proceedings, unsuccessful job applicants suing to protect their reputation, public aid recipients, or Native Americans joining in a lawsuit pitting their personal interests against those of their communities--all cases in which plaintiffs have been allowed to proceed anonymously.
Sorry Ira what was I thinking? I forgot our lawmakers in and from Illinois make up their own laws to suit their own agenda without repercussion for violating federal law or the Constitution. Silly Me
Jim Moss
Chicago Illinois
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Will some one speak up for us? Will someone help us?
This sounds a lot like 1935 just before dear Adolph took away their free speech and their guns! They already want our guns!
Is this history repeating it self, what next mass imprisonment of rebellious individuals.
2/22/2013 04:17:00 AM
Liked the above comment. Gov Potatohead says we can't afford to prosecute, punish and imprison the real law breakers(Democrats) of this county but if they keep sending you away i'm going to find a way to let you out early, you know because even convicted felons can now vote in Illinois. However, if you're a law abiding citizen who purchased your guns legally and have them properly registered when the time comes to turn them in and you refuse I will build more prisons to house you lawbreakers. Remember this potatohead and you too Ira. The difference between a chicago and suburban fight is; in a suburban fight there is a lot of mutherf**king going on back and forth without a punch being thrown but in Chicago someone's getting an ass whoopin, just ask Vanecko.
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