Crime is Headed Down
- The Chicago Police Department hopes to free up the equivalent of 44 officers a day by no longer dispatching cops for certain crimes, like burglaries and car thefts in which the offender is no longer at the scene and no one is in immediate danger.
Police confirmed the change, which takes effect Sunday. Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy told aldermen last year he was considering a move in that direction.
- Crimes that will no longer result in the dispatch of an officer to the crime scene include vehicle theft, theft, garage burglaries, criminal damage to property, the passing of bad checks, lewd or obscene phone calls, threatening phone calls that don’t pose an immediate danger and animal bites, McCaffrey said.
We're just surprised it's taken this long and hte aldercreatures aren't bitching more. Of course, 44 officers per day, divided by 22 Districts, 3 watches equals a net gain of two-thirds of an officer per district shift.
But he won't have a car anyway.
Labels: department issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
192 Comments:
Yes but SCC watch the first time a car is not dispatched and something more serious develops! And watch the same do nothing's make up, "he's gots a gun" but when you arrive of course dudes gone but here's your case report done on scene! But when the honest taxpayers want the police sorry will not be there!
Crime will go up because more people will be able to get their report over the phone. Instead of getting tired of waiting for the coppers to show up and leaving before they get there.
Read the new order . .
NOTHING HAS CHANGED ! !
We don't go to these jobs now as it is . . they have been going to ARP for quite a while now.
I got my car broke into at Midway's Orange Line Park and Ride back in '07. I called the cops & was told no one was coming out, & I'd get a call later to fill out a report. Never got a call. Had less than $1000 bucks worth of stuff stolen & damages so I just ate it. But this policy has basically been SOP for years.
Crime reports are going to go up.
Instead of waiting hours for a cop to show up,you can now get a police report over the phone.
Burglarys, Need an Officer to respond, You never know if the Crook is hiding or may come back, You need to secure the area for the Citizen.
Still a good thing...except for the alt resp who will find a way to send it back to patrol. Need to tidy up the order so that a Supv at ARS has to approve jobs being sent back to patrol
Reminds of the Mutants who made their living off of the "shell game" on the cta trains back in the day.
I kinda like the "no animal bite" one. One time, I had to do an animal bite for a lady who tried to feed a squirrel. Breed: grey
Owner: God
Add the two-thirds to the officers already waiting for cars. Oh, the solution to officer down time is foot patrols/beats.
This idea only works on those not connected, as the connected will get the same special service/treatment they have come to expect.
"If a tree falls in the woods..."
If a crime occurs in Chicago...
Hey, 2/3 of an officer is a start
So get ready on the desk to handle all the shit blown off by 911 and 311, not to mention all the beefs for lack of service....oh right, remember when you could get a beef for lack of service....what will eventually happen is that the citizens will completely give up on calling for any police services. The death spiral continues!
OT: A gun control group founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is airing an advertisement during the Super Bowl calling for background checks.
The 30-second spot by Mayors Against Illegal Guns will air in the Washington area during the third quarter of the game between the Baltimore Ravens and San Francisco 49ers.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/mayors-group-sponsors-gun-control-super-bowl-ad-18388225
Off topic scc: I just read that USNAVY RET.SEAL CHRIS KYLE {DECORATED SNIPER W/THE MOST KILLS IN MILTARY HISTORY} was killed on a gunrange down in Texas helping people w/PTSD. RIP SIR thank you for your service to your country and fellow service people.
It early Sunday morning, is Gerry "Johnnie Walker" MaCarthy still walking by the stores at or near State and Division.
Dispatch no cops. What the @#$%. I am paying taxes for what? Since they are not going to dispatch? Can, I get my concealed carry. I will dispatch then.
In that story McNumnuts jokes and tries to sell this new initiative by talking about responding to calls about kids fighting over the remote control and other such nonsense. Yet, this new order does not address those types of calls. We'll still have to respond to ghetto nonsense disturbance calls. This new order is only going to piss off decent tax paying citizens who have the audacity to request police service when their car is stolen or their garage is burglarized. This will only free up a car to respond to more ghetto nonsense. Personally, I'd rather be doing an auto theft report.
This is long overdue but I'll believe it when I see it.
How long before the play rev-runs start objecting that the police no longer come when their people call because Shaniqua's disrespecting momma.
All burglaries need a P.O to respond!
How long before the play rev-runs start objecting that the police no longer come when their people call because Shaniqua's disrespecting momma.
2/03/2013 02:41:00 AM
how long before the police are called because either shaniqua has just stabbed her momma or shaniqua's momma has just beaten shaniqua with a table leg?
Hey, 2/3 of an officer is a start
2/03/2013 01:28:00 AM
that depends upon which 2/3's, the top or the bottom.
"If a tree falls in the woods..."
If a crime occurs in Chicago...
2/03/2013 01:19:00 AM
....a little devil gets it's horns.
Talked to a friend at OEMC who told me that they will tell callers that beat cars will NOT be sent on certain calls but, bottom line, if callers argue and INSIST on seeing the police, they will dispatch a car.
Also, people at OEMC are fair game for CR numbers and, as civilian employees, don't have the rights, representation and appeals process that officers do, so don't expect them to put their asses on the line by not dispatching a car. If some BS call blows up and they didn't dispatch a car, the call takers will be the first ones to lose their jobs or get disciplined.
Yeah. Everybody has got your back.
Bullshit!
Yes but SCC watch the first time a car is not dispatched and something more serious develops! And watch the same do nothing's make up, "he's gots a gun" but when you arrive of course dudes gone but here's your case report done on scene! But when the honest taxpayers want the police sorry will not be there!
If the fool lies and says he has a gun then arrest him and charge him accordingly. Problem solved.
So, What is being said here is that calls from taxpayers will not be answered. What a great idea to shift the taxpayer out of the city.
They freed up 44 officers to do more contact cards to prevent those crimes.
Anonymous said...
Crime reports are going to go up.
Instead of waiting hours for a cop to show up,you can now get a police report over the phone.
2/03/2013 12:29:00 AM
Are you new here? Crime and crime reports will go down because people will get tired of waiting on the phone for hours.
Anonymous said...
Still a good thing...except for the alt resp who will find a way to send it back to patrol. Need to tidy up the order so that a Supv at ARS has to approve jobs being sent back to patrol
2/03/2013 12:47:00 AM
Already happening. I've had victims they were told on the phone that they had to go into a DISTRICT to make a report.
Anonymous said...
OT: A gun control group founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is airing an advertisement during the Super Bowl calling for background checks.
The 30-second spot by Mayors Against Illegal Guns will air in the Washington area during the third quarter of the game between the Baltimore Ravens and San Francisco 49ers.
http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/mayors-group-sponsors-gun-control-super-bowl-ad-18388225
2/03/2013 01:47:00 AM
That's got to cost a pretty penny!!
Anonymous said...
Dispatch no cops. What the @#$%. I am paying taxes for what? Since they are not going to dispatch? Can, I get my concealed carry. I will dispatch then.
2/03/2013 02:13:00 AM
I like you.
Let no crisis go to waste i.e.....to do something you have been wanting and needing to do all along.
I heard two of these house mouses went on medical. How many will just retire?
Definitely a crime killing strategy, but nothing new. Had our garage burglarized a couple months back @ $300 worth of items stolen and damage to the siding. Have $1,000 deductible on house insurance policy, but thought it should be reported. Called 311 three times and was on hold for at least 10 minutes each time. Said "forget about it."
Watch for more of the same.
While telling some people to "grow up", burglars will be emboldened. A sad commentary.
NOT LEO, Bad checks are you kidding me ??? in Crook County if you get a bad check and you don't have "Vito" or "Kimbo Jr" to help collect you will NEVER GET PAID. Been there done that. CPD will do it can but the court system will do NOTHING................
Have not seen a stat on how much higher the murder rate is since CEASEFIRE got involved! January murders highest since 2002 - there has got to be a stat in there somewhere! Talk about inefficiencies.
OT but gotta say it.
Saw baby mamas on tv yesterday saying, we need more programs and more mentors for these kids! How about you stop having kids until you find a daddy that will stick around?
Keep your legs closed until you can support them yourselves, or don't have them. Mentors. Seriously? If you can't find or don't know who the baby's daddy is, where the f*ck are you going to find any black males to be mentors?
What, mentors to the very kids they abandoned?
Clueless. We're doomed.
OT:
Who received the contract to install those ridiculous stop signs in the middle of the streets at crosswalks? WTF did these cost?
As predicted, 50% have been destroyed and the survivors look like shit after a couple months of being sideswiped by blunt smoking, LINK card using, section 8 living Chicagoans.
Supervisors beware of this, if you code a job 19S and don't send a Po guess who is fucked if things go bad?! Not Garry that's for sure.
This Should be the call takers responsibility not the street supervisor.
Maybe I have a case of , "the sky is falling syndrome" but after what we have witnessed this dept do to its people, I can't help it.
The aldercreatures will be bitching when the citizens start bitching - watch!
As for the desk people handling all the slack - good luck with that. Where I'm at there are only two P/Os on the desk. Citizens, if you walk into a station to get a report, bring something to read and prepare to wait.
If you voted for Rahm, don't bitch, you got what you voted for.
At least they're no longer responding to crimes they won't investigate anyway. Perhaps CPD will be able to enlist CC Permit holders to help fight crime by the time summer arrives...
Rahm will make sure his voters get to see the police.
If you could see the kind of PO they are dumping on the street you'd probably laugh, "course your probably already laughing".
Theres a reason POs younger then 50yo become house mouses. A few actually. 1, cause they have the juice. 2 cause they want nothing to do with crime and police shit.
Swiping - Any truth to this?
Just talked to one of the guys from area north who told me that starting next period they have to start swiping in/out.
Wtf?
If they do this and start taking $ away from us I sure hope people have the gonads to take it back 2 fold on the end with that late ticket, flat tire or tact team style arrest.
As if this asshole isn't fucking us out of enough with no raises and stealing our pensions. Now he wants to steal 15minutes if I hit traffic or an accident
So if no police respond to my Burglary, I can forget the ET who could find a print. If some clout ridden hack calls the Co who orders me there, Can I refuse because it is against policy?
Now that everyone knows, including the criminal element, they'll just come back and finish the job knowing the police won't respond. Its obvious they don't remember Flisk and Stephens. The offender came back. Any burglary, robbery, auto theft an officer should be dispatched. The other bs, not so much.
Although this has needed to be done for quite awhile I'm sure it's going to help Rahm and McFailure announce a further crime reduction! Simply amazing.
This reminds me of the question " if a tree falls in the forest and nobody's around to hear it does it still make a sound?"
If people get fed up with the system and the runaround and give up and don't report a crime then did that crime really happen? That's what Rahm and McFailure are banking on.
but the homeless guy sleeping will get three squad cars a fire truck an engine and an ambo
Hey, 2/3 of an officer is a start
There are plenty of 2/3 officers in every district. Just look in the front office.
So get ready on the desk to handle all the shit blown off by 911 and 311,
That has been going on for sometime now. I started asking people who call in if they called the station directly or 311. 9 out of 10 state they called 311, followed the prompts and were shifted to the desk of the district of occurence.
Next order, All Oficers must now brown bags thier lunches and eat in thier squads. This will save the city 10 Officers per shift and increase the response time.
Change?
Really?
How many times have you been given a domestic call and upon arrival you find out mamma called because junior won't get out of bed to go to school or junior is "disrespecting".
Police not do certain jobs? It won't happen. If they try, all the victim will do is say the offender came back.
If an Alderman asks you to do something contrary to policy---REPORT it to the legislative IG!
So they quote McStoopid saying the police shouldn't have to respond to a bunch of stuff like kids fighting over the remote. But the examples of stoopid calls given by McStoopid and the anonymous supervisors aren't on the list of what won't get a response. Almost no correlation between the cited examples, and the actual list of what won't get a response.
Most of that list I'm pretty sure was already stuff that didn't get a response.
I'd assume that a lot of these offenses do not need human interaction to handle anyway.
It looks as if we had an uneventful night, last night. Surely must have been that crazy Hawks/Flames game.
More Chicagoland Idiocy, Mayhem and Stupidity: heyjackass.com
Does anyone remember a few years back when they kept making us watch the streaming video at roll call about contact cards? That was shown almost as much as the rodney king beating that we had to keep watching, as if we beat him! They had the department's head lawyer explaining that there are only three situations when you are allowed to complete a contact card. WWhen a crime is about to be commited. When a crime is commited. When a crime was commited. If the three conditions were not met, you are violating the person you stopped rights.
At that time there were department directives that required you to complete a contact card any time you came in contact with a citizen and a police report was not required? When did all that change? Whats with the quota for contact cards now? I wonder if that video is still around?
and more than likely..no ET's to collect evidence and catch the bad guys. How smart SUPT. Dumb ass!
Gee Whiz.... thats a great idea, can't believe no one came up with this before. This will keep officers free to handle in progress calls or when needed to process a crime scene. Again you morons at the top of the department and who run the city.... this is something officers have been suggesting to do for more than 10-15 years, THANKS for FINALLY LISTENING.
Who is looking bad here Rahman NO the police themselves. Pension for what?
Nothing to see here, move along.
So let me get this right, no cars to respond. Does this mean that citizens are to go out and buy finger print kits, dust for prints themselves?
This is all bullshit anyway you look at it. I live in 8 and my mom had to make an injury report for insurance. I told her she could do it over the phone since she was injured and couldnt get around to well. She waited so long on the phone that she was getting dizzy. Then They cut her off! I then tried and the same fuckin thing. I got so fuckin pissed and finally took her to the satellite office at the library for a report. That is what they are going to do now! Make victims' wait so long that they get tired and forget about it. Thats bull shit!
2/03/2013 12:47:00 AM
Very true. In Shitcago, this is where having concealed carry now comes in hand. Citizens will now have to check their own property from hiding criminals.
When they call 311 to gat a report and no one answers becouse there is no one left there to answer the phone just how pissed off will everyone be?
So get ready on the desk to handle all the shit blown off by 911 and 311, not to mention all the beefs for lack of service....oh right, remember when you could get a beef for lack of service....what will eventually happen is that the citizens will completely give up on calling for any police services. The death spiral continues!
U must be new here if you dont know that desk crews dont get alot of respect around here. We couldnt care less if it means more work for you desk dollies. Now stop watching netflix on a dept. Computer and stop makin me wait 45 minutes to approve my arrest....oh oh amd most improtantly stfu!!!
Former XO Anthony Carothers dumped to field Lieutenant last Sunday six months before he was to get gold braid pension. He immediately retired 2 days later. You can say whatever you want to say about Carothers but his immediate retirement before the age of 55 and before his 29 years may say something about what Mayor Rahm plans are in regards to the police pension. Stay tuned my friends
A friend had about $900 stolen from her lock box at her place of business a few months ago. She called for a car to make a report and was told to call 311 and have a report made over the phone. For weeks she would call and all she got was a message that someone would return her call. No one ever did. She ended up driving to a station and having the desk make out the report.
so we don't respond to crime but we respond to leon won't eat his corn flakes?
The ghetto mutts will still get unabated police service- it's the tax-payers who are getting screwed on this one. Anyone notice the the new property tax invoice? Since when did the underfunded pension become a line-item?? Real nice how the taxpayers foot the bill for rahm's 24/7 security detail including officers driving his kids to school, the park, the store etc. while they can't get an officer to show up for a burglary or assault rep. Unreal.
The city is not safe. Move away as soon as you can!!
CPD Operation YO-YO -- "You're On Your OWN" People of Chicago.
Season: 2 Episode: 19 -- Dude Where's My Car.
Just a short time ago the CPD message was to jump on the small stuff because in doing so you will prevent the more serious stuff from happening.
The leaders called that Broken Window crime fighting.
C A P I T U L A T I O M
Today the leaders of our hero's have thrown in the towel, capitulated on that message.
Now it's F--k the "Broken Window" because the house is already on fire.
(Que Bloodhound Gang soundtrack - youtube WARNING NSFW lyrics)
♫ The roof the roof the roof is on fire / The roof the roof the roof is on fire / The roof the roof the roof is on fire / We don't need no water let the motherfucker burn....
Yes the roof is on fire down at the downtown Tower of Bullshit. The white shirts are running around like their hair is on fire too.
" I am less concerned about responding to the radio and more concerned about the violence on the streets..." or something like that.
Dude where's my car? Where's my radio? Where's my ammo? Where's my partner? Where's my PDT. Where's my software license? ha. Where's our pension payments?
You're a fire fighter now son. Shut up. Screw the mission and hold your position and fill out these contact cards. Stop using alligator arms. Use alligator tears at the photo-ops like the brass instead.
Meanwhile, the political leaders mount an all out assault on evil gun manufacturers demanding that the pensions, the banks, and investment funds stop financing the guns.
We need these gun bans because if y'all remember that's how we got everyone off of the illicit drugs. Remember?
This leads to the question that if going after the finances of legal businesses because we feel that money fuels the street violence why are we not having an all out offensive on the drug sales that also finances the violence?
I mean not just in Chicago but nationally! We busted 42 people recently... big deal. 142 prolly came into the city with no background checks as we done that.
Answer: To stop the financing of the gun purchases via going after the drug money used to buy them we would have to lock down the nations borders to stop the main drug flow.
The leadership doesn't have the will or the means to do that.
Background checks for US citizens -- No background checks for illegal immigrants bringing the drugs here. Don't even ask them any questions about their citizenship because that would be racist. Give them drivers licenses instead because in doing so we can get our hands on some of that drug sales money.
The roof is on fire. But it's all just a show.
Where's the mayor? Oh he cares so much about the city he's going on a book tour promoting his brothers new book, right? Then it will be off to another campaign fund raiser.
Don't fall for the drama. Actions speak louder than the words
We're still gonna dispatch a car from one end of the district to the other end because we need a Spanish, Polish, Chinese, German, Russian, or whatever speaker tho right?
Illegal immigrants that refuse to accept OUR culture and language need service too. Yeah I know racist.
Not knowing the language here endangers the community and cost us all money in more ways then one.
Crime reports will go down, but non-reported, non-responded crimes will go up.
Getting our million dollahs back that was spent on the violence interrupters would put how many coppers on the street?
Getting our $55 million dollars back being spent on Maggie Daley park would put how many more officers on the streets?
Do you see anyone talking about that while adding the "if it saves just one child then isn't it worth it?"
Oh and your all still coming out for parking tickets right? Parking tickets are important calls.
I agree most of these jobs we code them 19p anyways for the most part since people realize sometimes paper aint gonna get shit solved...
The 1st steps towards wrol. Scapping at the bottom and taking desparate steps to hang on to the world as we know it
This is bullshit, the people that actually pay tax for this get the shaft again, all to appease the "voting bloc" of the cook county criminal enterprise. Fuck this place.
Wait, if someone gets their guns stolen in a burglary or car theft, there won't be anyone coming out to take a report?
but the Sheep will bye into his bs and think, golly gee - that's awesome we're getting more police.
This is like putting a pinkie bandaid on a major gun shot wound.
That "he gotta gun" shit will end pretty quickly one they get locked up for false police report.
911 & 311 calls already coming into the desk. More times than not we are dispatching cars from the desk because of the nature of the call. It's not working already!!!!! If there is no danger to the good citizen then how about sending civilians out to take the reports. Lets open another building, lets call it 511, fill it with civilians. And heres an idea for obama care. Lets open up a building of civilians that can hand out bandaids & aspirin. That will surly cut the high cost of health insurance & free up trained medical people for the realy sick. No Dr unless you have a fever over 102 or a minimum of 2 gunn shot wounds. And all you tax paying citizens can get a sticker that reads oh well.
The police have to show up for a burglary. What if the bad guy is hiding in the house? What about evidence? Who collects it?
Not sending officers to crime scenes means that reports will be taken over the phone and handled by Division Summary and/or a Administrative Det. who will then decide if the case is re-assigned to a 'Field Detective' for follow up action. These Det. Are now getting approximately 100+ cases a day, which means a great delay in contact with victims who are not always home when attempts are made to contact them. Rahm's new policies are delaying the inevitable, another scandal about police dept. incompetence. Rahm is failing fast.
In that story McNumnuts jokes and tries to sell this new initiative by talking about responding to calls about kids fighting over the remote control and other such nonsense. Yet, this new order does not address those types of calls. We'll still have to respond to ghetto nonsense disturbance calls. This new order is only going to piss off decent tax paying citizens who have the audacity to request police service when their car is stolen or their garage is burglarized. This will only free up a car to respond to more ghetto nonsense. Personally, I'd rather be doing an auto theft report.
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This person has hit the nail on the head!!!! Citizens of Chicago...you are being duped. A burglary call is completely deserved of police service. An officer must secure the scene, identify entry points, recognize possible patterns...etc. Your mayor and police super have figured out a way to keep the reverands happy by still responding to b.s. calls and yet dropping the crime rate by not responding and pretending it just didn't happen when it comes to the tax paying citizen. THIS is your wake up call. They cannot control dead bodies, but they can still say crime is down after you try to report a burglary and finally give up after waiting on hold for four hours. It's called re-victimizing the victim...and 9.5 loves it!!! He spends many hours per day figuring ways to screw law abiding, tax payers. And, somehow...you'll vote him back in.
If it saves just one life???
"Rev. Jesse Jackson on Saturday called for the Department of Homeland Security to help patrol the streets of Chicago to deal with soaring gun violence in the city and for President Barack Obama to come and personally address the issue."
Well apparently not. We just say that cuz it sounds catchy. We're not going to do that. JJ goes on ...
"Jackson has been a proponent of new gun control measures, saying last month that “semi-automatic” and “assault weapons” need to be banned because they pose threats to national security with the capability to “shoot down planes.”"
SHOOT DOWN PLANES OMG!!! ha.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2013/02/03/jesse-jackson-wants-homeland-security-to-patrol-streets-of-chicago/?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=story&utm_campaign=Share%20Buttons
If the Police will no longer respond to these incidents does that mean that they are no longer considered crimes ?
Sounds like a good idea to me know I will do even less work and won't have to go to the station to use a computer to put a report in as the PDT's never work.
But really, this could be a good thing...
No copper will be drawn into chillens disrespecting,
and if citizens ask for case numbers, we could compare numbers to get true totals.
I'm sure the insurance companies will be thrilled that people can now just call in and say anything about what was stolen. Great idea from the socialists.
How about addressing the ghetto drama calls for service instead of real crimes that those same ghetto assholes victimize citizens with? Idiots.
The Mayor and McCarthy should look up the word INTEGRITY, they would not understand. Their STATISTICS are lies, that is what statistics are. Crime is up and police officers are down.
"The Chicago Police Department hopes to free up the equivalent of 44 officers a day by no longer dispatching cops for certain crimes..."
No response to crimes like Criminal Damage To Property is in accordance with McCarthy's "Broken Windows" crime-fighting strategy.
...but they will roll in 015 -- on New Year's Eve -- on "Caller say a family member is drinking in Such-And-Such Tavern. Go there and check the person's well-being."
Haaaa .. This is going to be a good laugh. They can call the job in any way they want. If no bad guy on scene you can still 19s and have them wait on hold for an hour calling 311! If this doesnt seal McTards and dancers fate nothing will!
"A gun control group founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is airing an advertisement during the Super Bowl calling for background checks."
2/03/2013 01:47:00 AM
The leadoff, of course, is the Sandy Hook Children Singers -- exactly 26 of them -- accompanied by pro victim Jennifer Hudson.
Really.
A shattered, fragmented, "multicultural" society in which a football game provides the only national metaphysical basis -- a catch-all for any and all varieties of jingo, emotional overflow, social engineering, and weird trends -- is in deep trouble.
Just heard the NFL commissioner blowing something about "civil rights." Wasn't that 1964?
Will Mayor Ray Nagin make a pre-indictment appearance too, with the Hurricane Katrina Memorial Dancers?
I don't think I'll be watching this.
"Burglarys, Need an Officer to respond, You never know if the Crook is hiding or may come back, You need to secure the area for the Citizen."
2/03/2013 12:47:00 AM
Armed policeman isn't safe. Remember how ET, Ofc. Michael Flisk was killed? Dusting on a garage burglary and the maniac came back on him. M---F--er killed him probably thinking he could still run off with those car seats he'd unbolted. Probably someone waiting down the block, gimme five dollar right quick.
"A gun control group founded by New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg is airing an advertisement during the Super Bowl calling for background checks."
2/03/2013 01:47:00 AM
Just off the NFL web site -- here's something else not to be missed.
"Akbar Gbajabiamila asks a fan-submitted question to Beyonce at her Super Bowl XLVII press conference."
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Where are we?
Should I get a name no one can say, or just go with one name so I can be in everybody's face but no one can find me?
Where am I?
Etc.
This solves nothing and changes nothing.
That's the way it has been for years.
What a fucking disgrace.
Taxpaying citizens don't bother us with your bonafide crimes.
We are too busy responding to people that really need us.
How many calls are 19P?
That's the stat I want to see.
I don’t know if many people saw the BOP or order for sergeant’s to request to be put in a pool of potential candidates for either IAD, OCD, some other unit. The catch to the order is when you are offered a spot and if you turn it down, you cannot be considered for the other units. We all know what’s gonna happen there. All the people with clout will go to OCD or the other unit and all the people with no clout will be offered IAD (where no one wants to go). It’s all legit.
Um- you are clearing out callback while doubling call volume? Excellent planning!
"So get ready on the desk to handle all the shit blown off by 911 and 311, not to mention all the beefs for lack of service..."
2/03/2013 01:32:00 AM
The mutts have spoiled this for everyone else.
Important historical fact -- not everyone who calls the police is trying to get something over. Not even necessarily a report for insurance. Some people don't even have insurance -- they were just taught that, when something bad happens you tell the police, so that they will know what is going on in the area -- "eyes and ears" -- and so maybe they might even catch the guy. Often it only took a few minutes, but nice people were not left standing there with their d__k in their hand. Officer said sorry it happened, be sure to call if you see anything else, and things went on.
Now get this --
The people who enforce "Don't Snitch" on half the city for MURDERS -- and then clog up the streets with bullhorn marches as they kill each other day and night -- are the same ones who ENDLESSLY DEMAND INSTANT SERVICE FOR TINY BULLSHIT.
"Caller say they a raccoon in the vicinity. It lookin out from by a tree."
Where is McCarthy leading you?
He's leading you into a dark hole. This New York policing style is going to end in an ugly fashion. It's starting to come undone even today. The fallout in liberal Chiago will be much more painful for police officers than the fallout will be for NY cops.
You've been warned.
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/02/03/opinion/sunday/why-police-officers-lie-under-oath.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
Here, James Meeks' "dangerous product of the street."
11 years old and 23 felonies.
Finally taken into an underpass by fellow gang members and put to sleep with two shots to the back of the head as a mercy to the surrounding area in general.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sandifer
Raise this up partway and let it loose to run wild all night with a 9mm, then everyone come out in the daytime with T-shirts and flags and bullhorns, ain't gonna take it no mo, someone else should do something.
I am mortified about this situation at hand.Go Joe Montana?
No paper, no crime, no FBI stats. Guess what? Crime is down!
Fill out your report on the internet... is next.
Q1. What is the crime you wish to report.
Q2. Are you injured, if so where?
a: are you bleeding?.. if so apply pressure to site. If bleeding continues, call 911 for ambulance. (Dont forget to save your work before calling!)...if bleeding has stopped, and you are not faint, please continue. If you are about to lose consciousness, save your work and call 911.
b: if there is no bleeding, then continue.
Q3. Was there a firearm involved? If no, continue. If yes and it was your firearm, did you know that we give gift cards for every gun you turn in? Contact your local CAPS officer for details.
If it was someone elses firearm, and you still are in danger, save your work and run. Finish this form when you are able. If you are not in danger please continue...
Officer Michael Flisk
A uniformed officer killed in the line of duty 26 Nov 2010. A garage burglary was reported to the police and handled over the phone. Officer Flisk, an ET, was the first and only officer to be assigned to the scene. Both Officer Flisk and the burglary victim were shot and killed in the alley behind that garage.
Whoever signed off on that program should know that a uniformed police officer was shot and killed because of it.
Regards, Retired 640
I'll make a prediction here- When crime goes down later this year after Illinois passes a 7th Circuit mandated Right To Carry bill, the raccoon eyed ballet dancer and his sock puppet McDrunkard will claim credit for a reduction in murders.
You heard it here first folks.
Anonymous said...
So get ready on the desk to handle all the shit blown off by 911 and 311, not to mention all the beefs for lack of service....oh right, remember when you could get a beef for lack of service....what will eventually happen is that the citizens will completely give up on calling for any police services. The death spiral continues!
How are you going to get a beef for lack of service if you were never assigned a job? You are blowing smoke
As far as the desk crew, they have enough hidden on the desk and inside to handle the walk ins although it might take time away from online shopping and computer games
and, how long will it be until:
a) baby momma learns the right thing to say to 911, like.....you better come quick, I'm gonna kill this mofo; or....he gots a gun, they all gots guns; or
b) the first time a 911 call taker screws up, sends a call to 311 instead of to a dispatcher, then....311 sees the mistake, sends it back to 911, meantime, the guy that tried to report a garage burglary happening now or an auto theft happening now, winds up with a bullet in his head, or run over by his own car, courtesy of the local thug....can't wait for the press coverage on that..
We see on the policeman's hobby web log --
"At autopsy, a Cook Co. Medical Examiner's pathologist noted that plastic wrapped tubes containing approximately 2 kilos of black tar heroin were found secreted in Ms. Smith's vagina."
2/02/2013 11:37:00 AM
"That 32 year old princess was dealing drugs on the northside and pissed someone off resulting in her BPStone ass getting shot and killed."
2/02/2013 08:10:00 PM
... we see and hear in Chicago papers, radio, TV precisely jack s__t for follow-up on this Lake Shore Drive rubout, van riddled with bullets. "Gang matter and no danger to general public."
Right by the convention halls. Bad for business.
After all, what will happen "if" the tourists find out about this kind of thing, and it fills the papers in their home countries?
This --
http://www.irishcentral.com/news/Beaten-in-Chicago---Natasha-McShane-now-unable-to-speak-or-walk-148068885.html
And this --
http://www.thejournal.ie/father-speaks-about-natasha-mcshanes-struggles-a-year-on-from-brutal-attack-123374-Apr2011/
And this --
http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/chicago-attack-student-natasha-mcshane-comes-home-14874540.html
And this --
Man denied bail in Natasha McShane attack -
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/northern_ireland/8645749.stm
It's Mayor Rahm Emanuel's "Welcoming City!"
No Super Bowl post?
We will even get less than 2/3 officers when you consider day offs, time due, medical, furlo. More like .1 per district.
Next move: file report by computer. Only review officers to check proper spelling. Never any follow-up investigation.
Check gun control in America:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&feature=endscreen&v=SQcnE5lnPxg
To all the officers involved in the search warrant on 3600 s leavitt great job. That's what it's all about right there. 79 kilos and half a million in cash means you guys wrecked someones day.
Sadly, insurance fraud will jump up with this policy.
Anonymous said...
Yes but SCC watch the first time a car is not dispatched and something more serious develops! And watch the same do nothing's make up, "he's gots a gun" but when you arrive of course dudes gone but here's your case report done on scene! But when the honest taxpayers want the police sorry will not be there!
2/03/2013 12:07:00 AM
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This is true.
I think they base the number of officers that will be freed up on the 911 calls not changing.
Nevertheless we're pretty sure that the callers will adapt. Oh wait....is my life in danger? Is that what I need to say in order for someone to come out. Oh hell yes my life is in danger.
The number of officers freed up will be like the number of dollars gained by writing those pot tickets.
More funny math.
Remember we're suppose to be pulling in $7 million dollars for those pot tickets in it's turning our to be about 2% of that or $210,000.
Same goes for the on line lottery sales if you look it up. Those sales are only about 2~3% of what the glorious projections were.
$55 million dollars could of put 55 one million dollar cops on the beat.
$55 million dollars could of put 110 half million dollar cops on the beat.
$55 million dollars could of put 220 quarter million dollar cops on the beat. With 22 districts that's 10 cops per day per district and at least three cops per shift.
Instead of protecting "the children" the mayor gave us a Taj Mahal Maggie Daley memorial tribute park to look at and not touch!
Hey YOU KIDS GET OFF MY LAWN!
They're all a bunch of phoneys.
Heard on ISPERN yesterday... wanted investigation homicide ... black Dodge Durango seen at 183rd and central in country club hills dumping a body from the back. Wonder if any of the bosses have Durangos. Interesting enough no mention on the news either
Mayor needs to get the carry laws passed because it will free up officers responding to person with a guns calls.
Wait, I got it. If a car doesn't get dispatched, that means if the citizen is too lazy to walk to the station to make out a report, nothing happened. Therefore crime really is going down!
Ot but can't seem to get a straight answer, has anyone filled out the FTO application? Having hard time, thanks
Does anyone remember a few years back when they kept making us watch the streaming video at roll call about contact cards? That was shown almost as much as the rodney king beating that we had to keep watching, as if we beat him! They had the department's head lawyer explaining that there are only three situations when you are allowed to complete a contact card. WWhen a crime is about to be commited. When a crime is commited. When a crime was commited. If the three conditions were not met, you are violating the person you stopped rights.
At that time there were department directives that required you to complete a contact card any time you came in contact with a citizen and a police report was not required? When did all that change? Whats with the quota for contact cards now? I wonder if that video is still around?
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Not all situations you can put on a contact card are "Terry Stops". However, all "Terry Stops" must be put on contacts cards (RS). Therefore, you are slightly confused.
"My baby got bit by my cousin pit bull and now the pit bull got a gun".
"Robbery suspects charged with threatening girls with baseball bat"
First, congrats to the two off duty POs, excellent job.
Second, when will the "Administration" ( federal and city ), MSM and libtards every where understand that we have a "violence problem," not a gun problem.
These mutational third generation savages with no values, morals or conscience will resort to any means at hand to inflict damage, injury, even death to get what they want and all the gun control in the world will not stop them. Violence is violence. Just look at the UK. Mandatory disarming of the populace, yet they are one of, if not the most violent society in the free world.
And for all the shithead liberals who think a bat is no where near as dangerous as the feared and loathsome gun, just ask the poor lass from Ireland, Natasha McShane, how dangerous the person with the bat was.
It's the inbreed, desensitized culture of violence that kills. And until we address this culture at its root, we keep wasting time, and we're doomed because no "strategy of the hour" will work.
This essentially means that the city will no longer be prosecuting property crimes (burglaries, thefts and cdtp). They will be pawned off to the insurance companies.
A surplus 'Katrina' trailer will be parked adjacent to the new Maggie Daley Park construction sight to handle walk up victims wanting to file reports that police will not respond to. This way Rahmbo can report to Carole and Pam that he has earmarked 55 Million bucks for a new crime fighting program.
Have the TMA's respond to parkers and "car parked in the handicapped space," (space-holder has been dead for years but the signs are still up) and "car blocking my garage, I can't get out."
Any bullshit to elicit unnecessary Police response results in a referral to 311 and a Police drive-away.
Actually when dispatching was done from 1121 and coppers worked the zones, people were actually told "NO."
The "don't you know who I am?" people got their noses out of joint.
Civilianizing Police Communications was another way the rev'runs ,alderfools and the mayor were able to exert political influence over field operations of CPD.
Nothing new under the sun...
Never should have gotten rid of Police Officers as dispatchers in the first place...
Anonymous said...
OT but gotta say it.
Saw baby mamas on tv yesterday saying, we need more programs and more mentors for these kids! How about you stop having kids until you find a daddy that will stick around?
Keep your legs closed until you can support them yourselves, or don't have them. Mentors. Seriously? If you can't find or don't know who the baby's daddy is, where the f*ck are you going to find any black males to be mentors?
What, mentors to the very kids they abandoned?
Clueless. We're doomed.
2/03/2013 07:02:00 AM
In this context Mentor is a euphemism for babysitter.
Just imagin what McNYPD will spew if he is sent packing by rham for failing to eradicate the murders.
Pretty much what happens out in the s/w burbs. You call non-emergency, and they make a 'note' of it...
things like door to door solicitors
pushing their way in people's homes. LOL.
When unauthorized charges show up on your credit card, they'll make a 'note' of it...etc. since it happened on line, ya know guy we can't do anything about it. Oh, you have the offenders info? Nah, don't need that either.
Notes.
Ot but can't seem to get a straight answer, has anyone filled out the FTO application? Having hard time, thanks
If you can't fill out the application, stay 99 on days please.
Superbowl power failure?
Pro event, amateur production
At OEMC Roll Call they said no one gets special treatment. Yeas that means OEMC workers and Off-Duty Police. Per a OEMC Watch Manager!
I thought crime was down and we had enough Police on the streets, Mr Mayor!
My parents live way across the country, and Chicago was the headline of their Sunday paper. Holy crap. Hello Rahm? Hello recall? Even if a recall were symbolic, it would torpedo the Tutu's political future.
Anonymous said...
Wait, I got it. If a car doesn't get dispatched, that means if the citizen is too lazy to walk to the station to make out a report, nothing happened. Therefore crime really is going down!
2/03/2013 06:21:00 PM
That makes no sense.
They've demolished this department so much that we're now going to be doing 'Policing on the Cheap'.
They're raising our property taxes, water bills and raising fees on us to death.
I guess it's true, we get the Government that we deserve. Thanks 'Low Information Voters'.
Is this the new CAPS, you never see the Police, but you can get to talk to one on the phone!
Vote the MAYOR OUT!!!!!!!
Sup why doesn't the mayor or you follow new Yorks policy to work as a police officer ...last time my ny buddy told me was if u can't work full duty than get another job.
Next question
Why are light duty officers getting duty availability?do they go out on details? Do they do OPY. Do they carry a gun while working????does their start time change ? there.s one way to save money!!!!!!!
Anonymous said...
and more than likely..no ET's to collect evidence and catch the bad guys. How smart SUPT. Dumb ass!
2/03/2013 08:51:00 AM
No E.T.s left, and they haven't made any in a long while. FI's gone......... GOOD LUCK!
Anonymous said...
Sadly, insurance fraud will jump up with this policy.
2/03/2013 04:18:00 PM
No sympathy for insurance companies. Watch TV for an hour and see how many ads are for insurance. They are willing to put the fraud costs onto the backs of those who never make claims. People in the ghetto have 20-30 claims, all paid. I made two flood claims in 10 years and my major insurance company, who I've been with for over 20 years, dropped my flood insurance.
And of course, the people in the ghetto reporting burglaries just got their insurance within the last 30 days, agree to pay $4,000 per year for insurance, whether car or home--pay the first premium, report a burglary where multiple tv's, computers, furs, and gold jewelry were stolen. And they get paid 99 times out of 100.
So who are the chumps? You'd almost be better off banking the money you pay in premiums to use toward some unfortunate incident. I know, for sure, I've paid out more in insurance than I have ever been paid in claims.
Now if there were a way to take out accidental/double-indemnity death of futre political or job aspirations on Rahm and McDildo, count me in.
I think they are both toast.
Anonymous said...
To all the officers involved in the search warrant on 3600 s leavitt great job. That's what it's all about right there. 79 kilos and half a million in cash means you guys wrecked someones day.
2/03/2013 03:55:00 PM
Maybe the city will credit our pension fund for a half million then?
Seriously, who gives a f*ck any more?
So there will be lot of crimes that never get any futher look other than a report. How about I know what crimes are going on my beat. How about the guys who work the beat can see patterns.
So now we will drive around and not know about some types of crimes until they get bigger.
This is crazy. All calls should have a police car.
OT but a good sign of the quality and experience of the type of police that man some of the special cars in 019. Recently, an armed robbery call is dispatched in close proximity to where a female quality of life officer is shopping in Trader Joes. She refuses to come out of the store. Her partner leaves her in the store and rides on the job as a 99 unit. Just a quality days work for a quality days pay.
So people will get even more turned off by the police. More people will just move out.
Anonymous said...
Officer Michael Flisk
A uniformed officer killed in the line of duty 26 Nov 2010. A garage burglary was reported to the police and handled over the phone. Officer Flisk, an ET, was the first and only officer to be assigned to the scene. Both Officer Flisk and the burglary victim were shot and killed in the alley behind that garage.
Whoever signed off on that program should know that a uniformed police officer was shot and killed because of it.
Regards, Retired 640
2/03/2013 02:44:00 PM
Never forget. Never forget that Officer Michael Flisk always took the day after Thanksgiving off, but in 2010, he was denied time due to insufficient manpower. Officer Michael Flisk even attempted to take time at the end of the tour he had to work to spend time with his family and was denied. Instead he died at the hands of an animal.
No officer, none, nobody, for any reason, should be sent into these killing zones alone. I hope jfled, and Daley, and all the rest of the c*cksuckers at the top of this joke of a police dept. never, ever have another peaceful moment of sleep. I hope Officer Michael Flisk haunts them until the day they die.
b) the first time a 911 call taker screws up, sends a call to 311 instead of to a dispatcher, then....311 sees the mistake, sends it back to 911, meantime, the guy that tried to report a garage burglary happening now or an auto theft happening now, winds up with a bullet in his head, or run over by his own car, courtesy of the local thug....can't wait for the press coverage on that..
2/03/2013 03:01:00 PM
arm yourself.
protect yourself.
let the bodies hit the floor.
311 for bulk trash pickup.
Chalkie
....the raccoon eyed ballet dancer and his sock puppet McDrunkard will claim credit for a reduction in murders.
You heard it here first folks.
2/03/2013 02:46:00 PM
will they also take credit for the increase in justifiable homicides?
Where are we?
Should I get a name no one can say, or just go with one name so I can be in everybody's face but no one can find me?
Where am I?
Etc.
2/03/2013 12:52:00 PM
i blame Mary Poppins.
That "he gotta gun" shit will end pretty quickly one they get locked up for false police report.
2/03/2013 11:10:00 AM
no one will ever 'get locked up for false police report'.
ever.
Actions speak louder than the words
2/03/2013 10:10:00 AM
bada bing
bada boom
Chalkie
Anonymous said...
Dispatch no cops. What the @#$%. I am paying taxes for what? Since they are not going to dispatch? Can, I get my concealed carry. I will dispatch then.
2/03/2013 02:13:00 AM
you lack what is needed to achieve your stated goal.
do not ask for what you cannot take.
Bottom line is that this is a green light to commit any crime you want and then run away! That is what this accomplished, lawlessness! Wild wild midwest! Hell, won't you please come to chicago and do anything. Rahm can change the world, but can't clear more than 25% of homicides!
Wait, I got it. If a car doesn't get dispatched, that means if the citizen is too lazy to walk to the station to make out a report, nothing happened. Therefore crime really is going down!
2/03/2013 06:21:00 PM
If there is no insurance requirement why would I want to walk down to the station and wait and file a report just so nothing and nobody gets caught, fuck even if some jagoff is caught, that means several trips to court just to see the scumbag get probation. Been there, done that for an assault case, on the third trip the fucking asa tells me flat out, court diversion is what he gets. Forget it for a simple apple picking or garage burglary. If you walk in on it, ventilate the scumbag, unless you're some lakefront libtard, then you might get a beatdown or raped but that's the price you pay for being stylish.
They should outsource the 311 calls to India or the Philippines. They give great customer service and speak better English than a native Chicagoan.
Former XO Anthony Carothers dumped to field Lieutenant last Sunday six months before he was to get gold braid pension. He immediately retired 2 days later. You can say whatever you want to say about Carothers but his immediate retirement before the age of 55 and before his 29 years may say something about what Mayor Rahm plans are in regards to the police pension. Stay tuned my friends
No you goof it says hes about to get indicted. Nice conspiracy theory though.
Im confused!
a 25K car can be stolen and no police response but if someone doesn't have a permit to park on a certain block im supposed to go there and write a ticket?
Former XO Anthony Carothers dumped to field Lieutenant last Sunday six months before he was to get gold braid pension. He immediately retired 2 days later. You can say whatever you want to say about Carothers but his immediate retirement before the age of 55 and before his 29 years may say something about what Mayor Rahm plans are in regards to the police pension. Stay tuned my friends
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Nope, it just solidifies the reason he was demoted twice.
"Burglarys, Need an Officer to respond, You never know if the Crook is hiding or may come back, You need to secure the area for the Citizen."
As in the case of E.T. Flisk and the victim being murdered a couple years ago.
"Who is looking bad here Rahman NO the police themselves. Pension for what?"
You may be onto something here. CPD looks like the bad guy here, not the mayor.
Make sure that when a victim flags you down, that you tell them just whose policy this is...
Certain people have the alderman's/DC's cellphone number...they'll always get police service.
Calling 911 will be like.....calling People Gas now...
Confusing for the elderly and small children.
Shithead call takers are gonna transfer irresponsibly those in dire need.
Foreigners that are confused anyways are going to be more confused.
Drunk suburbanites are going to flip out and do irrational shit after they can't get the proper response...they will become like dude and put a " he has a gun or is still on scene" just to get the squad car.
Off Duty/retired police are going be frustrated as hell as well too!
Great for pissing off the ghetto shitheads though but they will find ways to bypass the re-direction to 311 too.
Good luck...
3 bars
Anonymous said...
They should outsource the 311 calls to India or the Philippines. They give great customer service and speak better English than a native Chicagoan.
2/03/2013 11:15:00 PM
That would never work because people in those countries could never understand ebonics. But it could be a GREAT Saturday Night Live skit!
Anonymous said...
So there will be lot of crimes that never get any futher look other than a report. How about I know what crimes are going on my beat. How about the guys who work the beat can see patterns.
So now we will drive around and not know about some types of crimes until they get bigger.
This is crazy. All calls should have a police car.
2/03/2013 09:09:00 PM
Unless this was a joke, you need some meds.
Anonymous said...
Sup why doesn't the mayor or you follow new Yorks policy to work as a police officer ...last time my ny buddy told me was if u can't work full duty than get another job.
Next question
Why are light duty officers getting duty availability?do they go out on details? Do they do OPY. Do they carry a gun while working????does their start time change ? there.s one way to save money!!!!!!!
2/03/2013 08:56:00 PM
This was either posted by McJagbag himself or a total f*ckhead of a copper.
"At OEMC Roll Call they said no one gets special treatment. Yeas that means OEMC workers and Off-Duty Police. Per a OEMC Watch Manager!"
2/03/2013 08:42:00 PM
How do they like their shiny white 4WD takehomes?
People were complaining on this very blog about all the nonsense calls we responded to. Now people are complaining that something is finally done about it. Wow never happy
Former XO Anthony Carothers dumped to field Lieutenant last Sunday six months before he was to get gold braid pension. He immediately retired 2 days later. You can say whatever you want to say about Carothers but his immediate retirement before the age of 55 and before his 29 years may say something about what Mayor Rahm plans are in regards to the police pension. Stay tuned my friends
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Nope, it just solidifies the reason he was demoted twice.
2/04/2013 12:40:00 AM
Or maybe there's another sweet spot for him within the city
I see nothing wrong with reporting a lot of incidents over the phone or over the internet. Actually, the internet is a better place.
No you goof it says hes about to get indicted. Nice conspiracy theory though.
2/03/2013 11:28:00 PM
You can only hope that you are right
If I am not mistaken, many major cites stopped sending police officers to investigate non-violent crimes year ago. In fact, burglaries under $5000 loss are not investigated at all. Times are changing, the cities are broke and you can only raise taxes so often. It is violent crime that the political class knows brings the heat, not non-violent incidents. The city should establish a web site to report most crimes .
Anonymous said...
At OEMC Roll Call they said no one gets special treatment. Yeas that means OEMC workers and Off-Duty Police. Per a OEMC Watch Manager!
2/03/2013 08:42:00 PM
Who is the punk that said this?
I said this months ago, This is all part of the master plan. You stop sending cars out to take a report. No ET needed to process the scene= no evidence. No evidence to follow up on puts the case in the hands of general assignment Det. That Det gets 1000 hand outs a year. No investigation done. People realize they don't get service, then they don't report the crime therefore crime goes down and McMustache is a genius.
Now that's the fucking smartest thing I've heard in a long time.
Anonymous said...
At OEMC Roll Call they said no one gets special treatment. Yeas that means OEMC workers and Off-Duty Police. Per a OEMC Watch Manager!
2/03/2013 08:42:00 PM
Just wait until that watch manager is driving home drunk one night. Sorry, Mr. Watch Manager, no one gets special treatment.
Hey Vito! Get the burning bar and the alarm clips...We are back in business.
Anonymous said...
So get ready on the desk to handle all the shit blown off by 911 and 311, not to mention all the beefs for lack of service....oh right, remember when you could get a beef for lack of service....what will eventually happen is that the citizens will completely give up on calling for any police services. The death spiral continues!
How are you going to get a beef for lack of service if you were never assigned a job? You are blowing smoke
As far as the desk crew, they have enough hidden on the desk and inside to handle the walk ins although it might take time away from online shopping and computer games
Don't know where you work or where you're referring to but we've only got 2 officers on the desk. Yes there are many hidden inside between Commanders office ,CAPS and Tact but they don't do much of anything and absolutely don't help the desk in any way, shape or form.
So if this "new" system increases walk ins it'll be the two desk officers who get the brunt of it not the inside dollies tucked away elsewhere.
Anonymous said...
Does anyone remember a few years back when they kept making us watch the streaming video at roll call about contact cards? That was shown almost as much as the rodney king beating that we had to keep watching, as if we beat him! They had the department's head lawyer explaining that there are only three situations when you are allowed to complete a contact card. WWhen a crime is about to be commited. When a crime is commited. When a crime was commited. If the three conditions were not met, you are violating the person you stopped rights...
2/03/2013 08:50:00 AM
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Wow, you sure didn't get much from that video, did you. Now listen carefully: If a crime was committed and you reasonably the subject did it, You ARREST him. Same if a crime is (being) committed. ARREST. If a crime is about to be committed, and you reasonably believe etc. etc. then a contact card and no arrest (unless a substantial step has been taken) then CONTACT CARD. You see we have this Constitution thingy that causes rules of arrest and siezure to be established, and, here it comes: FOLLOWED.
That "he gotta gun" shit will end pretty quickly one they get locked up for false police report.
2/03/2013 11:10:00 AM
no one will ever 'get locked up for false police report'.
ever.
Oh yes they do.... but not nearly enough to be a deterrent.
Anonymous said...
The ghetto mutts will still get unabated police service- it's the tax-payers who are getting screwed on this one. Anyone notice the the new property tax invoice? Since when did the underfunded pension become a line-item?? Real nice how the taxpayers foot the bill for rahm's 24/7 security detail including officers driving his kids to school, the park, the store etc. while they can't get an officer to show up for a burglary or assault rep. Unreal.
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The city has always been required to levy a tax specifically for funding their contribution to the pension fund(s). Apparently they simply decided to show it on your bill as a seperately stated item. Now think hard and see ifyou canfigure out why.
Honest question for you that I've wanted to ask for a while:
Is the inability to add significant numbers of police to the department due to lack of money to pay them with, lack of people signing up, or both?
I've wondered frequently why we don't see or hear of many recent military vets becoming police officers. I'm sure many are good candidates for becoming police, and considering the difficulty many have getting jobs after leaving the services, law enforcement seems like it would be a good direction.
Mission Scum: Will our contract be settled before the taxpayers who supported us in the past are affected by this "strategically" ill timed maneuver?? Our good citizens may not feel too supportive of a virtual "ghost" force. Having been denied service for what they thought were genuine concerns or crimes, our good people will unwittingly blame us lowly Policemen.
I think it's a great idea not to send beat guys to these calls. They can't gather any more info than if the report was done over the phone, in a routine burglary.
As an RBT det however, I'm wondering if I'm still going to be assigned these cases to follow up.
I also wonder if the volume of calls to me are going to go up i.e., the pissing, moaning, ranting and raving about why the police didn't do anything, and why I'm not doing anything.
I already have a sticky note by my phone with the number to the supe's office and to the first pussy's office. If I start getting calls like crazy, I'm going to alternate giving victims each phone number.
Any maybe I'll add Twinkle Toes' number on there too.
In 19, that's a true story, those two were hand picked by the watch commander RP on afternoons. That female was pissed she was not put on arrest too. (Done on purpose)The male PO on that quality of life car was part of that shooting incident in the roll call room. Talk about idiots without a clue. Another example of career insiders that go on the street.
Can I get a refund on my taxes since I won't be getting a response from 911? I would also like my money back for the superintendent and rahms salaries. Both would be fired anywhere else.
I've wondered frequently why we don't see or hear of many recent military vets becoming police officers. I'm sure many are good candidates for becoming police, and considering the difficulty many have getting jobs after leaving the services, law enforcement seems like it would be a good direction
Al;ot of vets are becoming police officers. As a matter of fact each recruit class is supposed to made up of 20% veterans. The veterans are given preference to get in the recruit classes in the 20% is not met
More then once while working as a relief watch commander I got a call from the DC on how he wanted certain arrests handled or send a car to an address and give them police service or non-suit a ticket or alarm ticket. That was always the way and i think it always will be the way.The DC would get a call at his home or his cell from connected people. Thank god I am retired,
Im confused!
a 25K car can be stolen and no police response but if someone doesn't have a permit to park on a certain block im supposed to go there and write a ticket?
What exactly are you going to do about the already stolen car? Look at the space it was parked in maybe? Goof
Why are light duty officers getting duty availability?do they go out on details? Do they do OPY. Do they carry a gun while working????does their start time change ? there.s one way to save money!!!!!!!
2/03/2013 08:56:00 PM
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because we got that money instead of a "raise" that the city would have to contribute/pay into the pension. that's why. now go get your shine box Fredo
Even if this has been going on for awhile, it was incredibly stupid for them to make a public announcement. Now it will be a feeding frenzy for the bad element.
NO worries citizens, the Mayor adds 100 traffic aides to the city budget today. Crime WILL be going down according to his latest strategy to have a 100% drop in the murder rate and overall crime.
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