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- Mayor Rahm Emanuel acknowledged Thursday that Chicago needs more police officers on the street, but he won’t ask taxpayers to foot the bill until he’s certain existing officers are being used effectively.
Toward that end, Emanuel and Police Supt. Garry McCarthy announced plans to shift 200 more sworn officers from desk jobs to street duty and assign them to “area saturation” teams already focusing on the gang violence that now has a face: 15-year-old Hadiya Pendleton.
And as usual, the FOP properly points out that this is more smoke and more mirrors:
- Emanuel’s plan to shift 200 more sworn officers from desk jobs to street duty did not impress Fraternal Order of Police President Mike Shields.
Shields called it “more smoke and mirrors” and “policing by press conference” from a mayor who balanced his first budget by eliminating 1,400 police vacancies.
Shields has been beating the drum for Emanuel to hire more police officers — beyond the 500 officers the mayor has pledged to hire this year to keep pace with retirements.
And the media, as usual, laps up Rahm's and Garry's numbers with nary a question:
- Last week, Inspector General Joe Ferguson suggested that the city could save up to $16.6 million a year and put 292 police officers on the street by shifting sworn officers from clerical and administrative jobs to street duty.
So the City is still cutting checks to these 200 officers.....AND they're going to hire at least 200 civilians to replace them.....AND this saves the city $16.6 million how exactly?
As far as we can tell, these 200 new hires don't exist any more, so the application, interviewing and vetting process will take....what? Twenty-four hours maximum so these 200 cops can be on the street in time for the weekend?
We particularly like that as everything McBrickCity tries, fails within weeks, his "newest" strategy is to re-institute an idea he denigrated upon arriving in Chicago:
As far as we can tell, these 200 new hires don't exist any more, so the application, interviewing and vetting process will take....what? Twenty-four hours maximum so these 200 cops can be on the street in time for the weekend?
We particularly like that as everything McBrickCity tries, fails within weeks, his "newest" strategy is to re-institute an idea he denigrated upon arriving in Chicago:
- Mayor Rahm Emanuel appeared to rip a page from the Daley administration’s playbook Thursday when he announced he was moving cops from desk jobs to “saturation teams” in the wake of a promising teenager’s murder, one criminologist suggested.
Unfortunately, as the FOP has pointed out, Rahm eliminated 1,400 spots to balance his last budget. That's 1,400 spots we aren't getting back - ever. Not without Rahm admitting he fucked up royally, and we know that isn't happening. The only reason New York does as well as it does is it has 35,000 police officers to deploy. We can't even field a citywide "strike force" on the second watch.
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How exactly are they going to place civilians in all these administrative roles in a weeks time when they don't even have a job announcement posted? Hell it takes longer then that to get hired at McDonalds.
Wasn't this done not too long ago? Do we actually have that many hiding inside?
just axin
The inspector general identified 292 positions and Rahm and Garry are only moving 200 of them to the street. Is it safe to say that when we talk about using officers effectively that the remaining 92 officers are on EX-mayor Daley and Ald. Burke security teams along with a few other chosen ones?
I checked the City of Chicago websites for job posting related to the Chicago Police department.
And to my surprise i did not find one posting for any position in the department!
I have a few relatives with college who would love to work at HQ taking I.D. picks or passing out CAPS pens at parades...
"...focusing on the gang violence that now has a face: 15-year-old (fill in blank)."
WHAT a bunch of s__t. Tens of thousands of "faces," $300 handpainted RIP shirts, babymama waving a picture in one hand and a fresh Kool in the other, wailin and askin the sky questions, for how many decades now?
There will be some new loud bang, some flash of light, some fresh distraction within minutes.
Count on it.
What a joke!!!! I know I could add more, but why we all know the lovely mayor is just using smoking mirrors
It's The New Strategy!
Turnin it right around!
So when do I wake up as a rapper?
Why do you need 5 people in the front office, and 2 at the front desk, and 1 at the back door(the RAT). oh yes i forgot about the 2 that have their own office. All they do is bitch and whine. Oh 1 more thing, I think a couple work their RDO for OT doing buy bust.
If each of these 200 make one arrest or get a mover a month and go to court seems like 200 people who weren't getting OT now are....not seeing the savings...
As was mentioned in another thread- where do you get the vehicles for the 200 officers put back on the street?
Do you -
1) Drop them off at their assigned post? (Having them totally stuck on the street stagnant at one place seems wasteful)
2) Add them to CTA Buses and Trains? (Not a bad idea - to have police presence there, plus they're somewhat mobile)
3) Double up on cars that were 99? (Good idea especially on third shift)
4) Take some rentals long-term and use them as unmarked police cars (not a bad idea - costs some money but you have instant cars - and not with 110,000 miles on them)
5) Pull out the motorcycles that are only used for ceremonial escorts and have them cruise around. (Not a bad idea)
There are ways around a shortage of cars - you just have to be creative.
Hi... Guy who was on the hiring list here. Never did get that call to my psych interview...
Isn't this like the 3rd time Rahm has " cleared out " desk officers and deployed them on the street's. ?
"...already focusing on the gang violence that now has a face:"
"Sgt. James L Severin
"PO Anthony N. Rizzato
"On 17 July 1970, Sgt. James Severin and Officer Anthony Rizzato were cut down by sniper fire while assigned to a "Walk and Talk" program in the Cabrini Green housing development."
What, wrong faces?
OK, if this "looks more like America," go with this.
"Yummy [Sandifer]was known for bullying and extorting money from local children and the community in the Chicago neighborhood of Roseland. He liked luxury cars such as Lincoln and Cadillac and, remarkably, was able to drive them despite his small stature...Many of his 23 felonies and 5 misdemeanors were committed in the course of running errands for street gangs. The penal system had no way to keep him out of trouble and the courts were helpless to lock him away because he was too young for juvenile detention and too dangerous to be placed with children his age.
"On Sunday, August 28, 1994, [11-year-old] Sandifer...opened fire several different times with a 9 millimeter semiautomatic pistol, striking several youths...Shavon Dean, age 14, later died from her gunshot wounds.
"On Wednesday, August 31 while still in hiding, Sandifer was met by brothers Cragg and Derrick Hardaway, ages 16 and 14. They were members of the Black Disciples. Sandifer was ordered to get into a waiting car where he was told the gang would take him someplace safe.
"Instead, he was brought to an empty viaduct underpass and told to get on his knees. While on his knees, he was shot twice in the back of his head."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Sandifer
Is that what they mean by "legitimacy?"
Uh oh Lt. JP 017 3rd watch...looks like some of your housemice will have to work the streets...maybe the working coppers won't have to see the usual 5 playing grab ass at the desk, watching their personal tvs and shit and acting all indignant if they have to actually do work....there are 1 or 2 who legitimately need to be inside..the rest should get their asses out on the street and try working for a livin' ...let go of your pets Joe..its time
OT: Have a laugh:
Chicago's job market is rebounding — here's why
By: Steven Koch (the city's Vice Mayor) November 14, 2012
"Year over year, Chicago's unemployed fell by 30,000, the best improvement since 1995. Chicago's total number of employed increased by a nation-leading 43,000, meaning even as Chicago grows, our workforce keeps up. Our unemployment dropped by 2.5 percentage points..."
http://www.chicagobusiness.com/article/20121114/OPINION/121119954/chicagos-job-market-is-rebounding-heres-why
Are these the jobs they're talking about?
Olive-Harvey College Hosts Free Taxi Driver Recruitment Day
"Chicago needs an estimated 2,000 taxi drivers..."
"Hosted by City Colleges of Chicago in partnership with the Mayor’s Office of New Americans and Hailo Cab, the event will include representatives from Chicago’s leading taxi companies and Olive-Harvey faculty members..."
http://ccc.edu/colleges/olive-harvey/news/Pages/Olive-Harvey-College-Hosts-Free-Taxi-Driver-Recruitment-Day.aspx
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MSF, love them or hate them, did a good job. They truly fucked up getting rid of a citywide unit like that.
Aaheemm... it's R.M.S. Titanic.
(as in Royal Mail Steamer)
If you can't see the whole, nonsense story at the Crain's site, have a look here:
Crain's Chicago Business: Chicago's job market is rebounding — here's why
By Steven Koch, Deputy Mayor of Chicago
http://ccc.edu/news/Pages/Chicagos-job-market-is-rebounding-heres-why--.aspx
I think ppo's should man up..... That nice paycheck is a lot better than that footlocker check at the mall!!! Get some!!! Ooo-Rah??
Obama said that he is going to "put 1000 police in the schools!"
Not here. He meant nationally.
911 OEMC is starting a new SOP on Sunday. They can now refuse people service. If they deem it a call back job and you don't want call back, they can than refuse you service. Also they will be refusing police officers who are off duty. They said there is no special service. Any garage burglary is a call back job or no service. New rules. off duty means you have no say. The city is about to be come crime ridden. Also you can't ask for a squad car, have to have a reason or its no service. Not enough police to go around any more. But crime down ;)
Happily retired for three months. Oh thank you God, thank you Lord. Retirement is great! Nothing one earth could make me come back.
Cant wait to see all the contact cards and anovs those 200 are going to generate. They're nuts if they do any at all.
Its a GONG show of epic proportions...Idiocy and ineptitude at its finest.
The news conference was a joke. Rahm says he can't ask taxpayers to pay for more police until he knows he's using every officer he has the most efficiently. Like City Hall and city government with all it's political hires is a model of efficiency right Rahm?? Why get all indignant now?
How exactly do we move 200 officers, who's salaries stay on the books, then hire at least 200 + civilians yet Rahm claims it'll result in a cost savings for " the taxpayers"?
Rahm you're using that impossible,illogical math again.
You know the type where you state the city's broke yet you're constantly finding money for stuff you want to do regardless if "the taxpayers" want it or not. The $55 million on Maggie's park,$90 million for seldom used biked lanes,$11 million for gardens in the ghetto...the list goes on and on.
This press conference was also very light on specifics and details. Where exactly are these 200 coming from?
Using the term desk officers is usually a misnomer and Rahm and McFailure did nothing to be more specific.
All in all a smoke and mirror press conference filled with mumbo jumbo and very light on logic and specifics.
Confucius once said "A dog inside the house is still a dog outside the house."
But shortage of police and mega murder rate = VRI $$ for little old me.. muhhhaaa
Smoke and mirrors is right. Officers in a certain far south side district were told they were being sent out to write a parker or two and then to come back in. Just hire some new blood already
Does Rahm and McFailure plan on reducing/eliminating the security detail at HQ? After all they sit behind desks and do very little. They can't even be bothered with walk ins. Any citizen that walks in to HQ needing any type of police service is sent to the 009th district.
Is that the model of efficiency you're seeking Rahm?
Why Don't you guys accept laterals from the burbs...I'm guessing guys from smaller departments that are facing layoffs would jump at the chance....They're already state certified officers and would just need to learn CPD's paperwork and ordinances ....Training time/fto would be minimal
Anyone who willingly agrees to partake in this latest reincarnation of saturation-type area team is a fucking fool.
Ask the chumps commuting from home in 016 to 004 on afternoons in rush hour traffic how that's working out for them.
Expect the Bossholes to once again sell the impressionable dolts with tales of elitism to staff this catastrophe in the making.
Don't take the bait, folks.
Forgot to mention that they're asking for volunteers to work these latest versions of a "saturation" team, while the house mice are slowly reintroduced to street life. That's until their clout quietly reigns them back inside.
That is who these officers are. I've worked with them and this is not the first time I've seen this happen. Great officers but even better people.
008 1st watch
Eliminating those positions was a huge mistake. Brizzard from Chicago Public Schools was another huge mistake.
Unfortunately, Superintendent Garry McCarthy was yet another huge mistake, but we are going to have to put up with him for a long time. God help us, there is no way Rahm Emmanuel is going to admit another complete failure on his part.
How are they supposed to fill the spots with civilians by 31 March 13 which was given at the dog and pony show? When I was at HQ, our unit was trying to fill a spot with a civilian and it took over a year. Never gonna happen.
Rahm - what a man of integrity we have here.
How'd you get that $18M job there Rahm old boy?
You earned it right?
You fucking creep
The evil racoon lies again !!!
Ferguson's report actually said putting the 200 on the street and replacing them with civilians WOULD cost the city more money. If I can find the link to where I read it I will post it. Believe me, I'm not supporting the "strategy". His point was yes, there were 200 cops behind desks, but it will cost the city money to put someone else in those spots.
Anyone who has ever dealt with a civilian on this job should know this is a bad idea. Incompetent, surly, and lazy are just a few adjectives that come immediately to mind.
I heard they're not replacing CMO people retiring from areas (which might not matter since they work about 4 hours anyway)....but if they replace CMO people with civilians, watch out!
He's going to be on 0600 Ch. 5 news updating people on the investigation of the 15 year old killed and to talk about his new crime strategies.
Seriously, when is one of these ball-less reporters going to ask him if he thinks his job is safe?
Or that it seems like he's on the news every week with a new strategy--that doesn't work? I'm guessing never.
Now, the fatal shooting on LSD. Can he come up with something preposterous like since it happened so close to the water that it is a Coast Guard case?
McCarthy just said on the news that "this is a new TACTIC, not so much a strategy".....so now we'll have a new tactic every week, not a new strategy. What a friggin' mope this guy is.
Well, I always believed that if you took this job you be working the street......for at least your first 15 years.... I've seen a number of officers just off probation working inside. The last time they moved the admin people most never hit the street.....they were moved on paper only.... Check the new list and I bet your gonna see the same names on the list from the last time. Really a joke..... So now you have admin people...who don't want to be on the street holding down crime....(really?) Best of the best.......
Have some of you realized that on every other breath Mayor Emmanuel talks about "taxpayers" and "to spend tax dollars wisely". He is a great showman and artist. He says one thing with his lips and does another with his actions.
If Mayor Emmanuel cares so much about "taxpayers" then why does Mayor Daley get a lifetime of body guards? Why does Ed Burke get body guards? Why is he building a park at a cost of $55,000,000 in honor of Maggie Daley? At a time when our city is knee high in debt?
Thanks to the 002nd district officers who pushed the minivan that the lady got killed in onto the interstate on ramp.
Garry
The CPD response to the IG specifically named "Special Events" as a unit that needs sworn P.O.'s. and can not use civilians.
ever notice supt. Charlie McCarthy puppet when standing near tiny dancer during media events? his lips move even when not talking. very strange! ROTF
What about cars for all these extra officers? Its about time they trim the fat off the desk in 025 on the third watch.
I just heard McNumbnuts on WLS and he said that we have more police here per capita than any other major U.S.City, and the FOP should be addressing issues affecting benefits for officers. So that is going to be the tune for the rest of Rahm's tenure. Let's see how many retirements come from this moving 200 officers to the street.
I saw a room full of police officers standing behind the Mayor as he touted off his plan to take officers out of desk jobs and put them on the street. He should lead by example. Put those officers out there. They are all highly paid and trained doing what? Standing around for his camera time? And the little female blue shirt standing in the rear left, looking board and zoned out? We can sure use those blue shirts out here. Body guard unit costs how much for around the clock duty. Can’t find a security contractor to provide the same baby sitting duty. Those three or more shifts of highly paid detail unit folks can sure be helpful out here. The list goes on and on
Oh shit man we really fucked up when we disbanded the TRU city wide unit but we cant admit it. What should we do. Oh yea lets just make a bunch of people go to area saturation teams and cram them full of enough po s to replace tru. But i swear we werent wrong. These people you are forcing there from hq amd now the low men.on tact teams aint gonna do shit. Admit you were wrong about tru. I dont care what u say they were necessary.
You have to hand it to Rahm. He's put thousands of cops on the street since he took over.
Or did he? Is this the new math they keep talking about?
I would love to see the worthless cocky 3rd watch Secretary at 018 put on the street in a busy District,That would be hard on her since She would have to work more than 5 hours.
why dont they take from the 6 tact teams in 001...?
2013 new year prediction:
OEC (911) call takers specifically, under the "new" refusal rules...
are going to be the bane of lawsuits in the near future.
(bane= cause of)
P.Def's. line up. The money is going to flow and the city's going to pay out "tons" of cash.
Way to go rahmmy
bye bye $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Call in the national guard. It would be like a scene from Full Metal Jacket with the gunner on the helicopter firing his big ass gun yelling,"Come get some!"
Bunch of recruits running around with an FTO following them? The Jump Out Boys are back!!!
now can we promote 20 to 30 EVIDENCE TECHS now off the list!!
Apparently closing the 21st district wasn't a good idea for obama's neighborhood. Looks like crime goes where police aren't. Who would have thunk it. Also who would have thunk the number of police before the Rahm cuts were actually thought out to cover the city and actually control gun violence. Oops, dumbass!!!!
What the latest comp stat twist? Can't change January but right now we have fewer homicides than last year. So that's a good thing.
Smoke and mirrors...never gonna happen...so move along. 008 on days has two watch sec, a desk sgt, and bid desk people while the Lt hides in his office..yet I was denied a day off because the cars couldn't be manned..WTF
While handling a domestic on west, oh I don't remember exactly, maybe 104th or 105th place, years ago, I asked a household member why they had a hand painted velvet portrait on their front room wall of Yummie which commemorated his life? Oops, my bad. It was mummie of yummie I had asked that question. Oh well....life goes on...for some.
This job is really fucked up! Just imagine that you or someone you know comes down with illness like cancer. Cancer takes time to overcome. Sometimes it goes into remission and sometimes it takes lives. Some people like to go to work because it keeps their minds of of other things. I think it's pretty FUCKED UP that RHAM is fucking with us Police Officers. We deserve better! Why aren't you speaking up Shields! Quit being a pussy and speak up. You were elected to do a job. Quit ass kissing! You need to start speaking up. You have no people skills and it is showing. You looked like a deer in headlights on the news the other day searching for a response in your noggin.
Inspector General finds 292 office clerks that should be assigned to patrol duties . That means there are another 300 that were hid during his investigation of sworn officers assigned to clerical duty . Another thought , no officer with less than 20 years should work inside .
To the person asking about laterals: The CPD has never accepted laterals. I don't know the reason for the policy. There probably is no reason other than that's the way it's always been. Over 30 years ago I was hired by a suburban pd and sent for training to the Police Training Institute at the U of I, Urbana. Eight months later I was called by the CPD and had to go through the CPD academy for the entire course, covering most of the same material as at PTI. It has been that way for every person coming from another agency. But we are not alone. Over twenty years ago I applied for po jobs in the Phoenix AZ area. Same thing ,would have to attend their academy even though I had been with CPD for over 10 years, starting out as though I was only 21 with no police experience. I stayed with CPD, the grass isn't always greener next door.
Gary will be here long enough to collect a pension!! What a scam! Exempts that come from other states and haven't worked on CPD shouldn't be allowed to collect a pension! Also, pension should be capped at Lt's pay! No more Gold braid pensions for the clouted do nothings!
Anonymous said...
Happily retired for three months. Oh thank you God, thank you Lord. Retirement is great! Nothing one earth could make me come back.
2/01/2013 01:58:00 AM
God Bless and many happy and healthy years to you, brother or sister! I can't wait until it's my day!
Anonymous said...
Isn't this like the 3rd time Rahm has " cleared out " desk officers and deployed them on the street's. ?
2/01/2013 12:56:00 AM
It's like the gheto corner, the mutts and the drunks have nowhere to go and circle the block.
Who is doing the inside jobs now?
I'm pretty sure that these are people that were pulled out a time or two before when Rahm "cleaned house" one of the last 10 times. These people work the street a couple weeks, if that, then all filter back inside. In a couple months they'll all be back inside and then next year, or even this summer, Rahm will say he's pulling 200 more bodies out of desk positions and out on the beat, but it's just the same people. It's a never ending cycle.
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
Anyone who willingly agrees to partake in this latest reincarnation of saturation-type area team is a fucking fool.
Ask the chumps commuting from home in 016 to 004 on afternoons in rush hour traffic how that's working out for them.
Expect the Bossholes to once again sell the impressionable dolts with tales of elitism to staff this catastrophe in the making.
Don't take the bait, folks.
2/01/2013 04:08:00 AM
Well if you were one of these people stuck doing that commute, then why wouldn't you join. You're already driving all the way down there, why not drive down and not have to answer jobs all day? Just go out and get a pinch. In the ghetto districts you can barely turn the corner without falling into an arrest.
How many indoor people are working at manipulating the numbers in the Compstat related units? They have people whose main job is to try to catch officers making errors on contact cards, etc. They waste how many hours by looking for errors that McFullofhiimself can then throw at the bosses as evidence that everyone in the department is lazy and incompetent. No one but the mayor buys his number fixing bullshit.
(OT) was just at 35th the coppers getting kicked out made this song,as a going away present to Gary!
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=iIpqLb72wsg
911 OEMC is starting a new SOP on Sunday. They can now refuse people service. If they deem it a call back job and you don't want call back, they can than refuse you service. Also they will be refusing police officers who are off duty. They said there is no special service. Any garage burglary is a call back job or no service. New rules. off duty means you have no say. The city is about to be come crime ridden. Also you can't ask for a squad car, have to have a reason or its no service. Not enough police to go around any more. But crime down ;)
2/01/2013 01:57:00 AM
Is this really a bad idea? Especially things like garage burglaries. Et's are short and are very seldom sent out, and when they are, they dont recover any useful evidence like fingerprints. Why not use 311 and sent the po's on other calls
Anonymous said...
Does Rahm and McFailure plan on reducing/eliminating the security detail at HQ? After all they sit behind desks and do very little. They can't even be bothered with walk ins. Any citizen that walks in to HQ needing any type of police service is sent to the 009th district.
Is that the model of efficiency you're seeking Rahm?
2/01/2013 03:19:00 AM
Will rahm reduce his big detail? Why does the city tresurer still have d3 paid coppers? Ed Burke has 2 retired coppers total salary for 2 in under 80k the treasurers guys make well over 100k each all the overtime,and more out of he pension at. The high pay rate why?
Then, in the next round of hard times, it will be the civilians laid off first. Then you'll be back to 'we're the dept. with the lowest number of civilian employees.' And then, you'll be putting P.O.'s back in those positions. It's the cirle of governmental accounting.
Apparently they have whittled it down to two possible names. The new unit will either be called the Mobile Unit Reponse or the Targeted Strike Force.
There's no accountability ANYWHERE I think.
And now this...
ATF's Milwaukee sting operation marred by mistakes, failures
A store calling itself Fearless Distributing opened early last year on an out-of-the-way street in Milwaukee's Riverwest neighborhood, offering designer clothes, athletic shoes, jewelry and drug paraphernalia.
Those working behind the counter, however, weren't interested in selling anything.
They were undercover agents from the U.S. Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives running a storefront sting aimed at busting criminal operations in the city by purchasing drugs and guns from felons.
But the effort to date has not snared any major dealers or taken down a gang. Instead, it resulted in a string of mistakes and failures, including an ATF military-style machine gun landing on the streets of Milwaukee and the agency having $35,000 in merchandise stolen from its store, a Journal Sentinel investigation has found.
When the 10-month operation was shut down after the burglary, agents and Milwaukee police officers who participated in the sting cleared out the store but left behind a sensitive document that listed names, vehicles and phone numbers of undercover agents.
And the agency remains locked in a battle with the building's owner, who says he is owed about $15,000 because of utility bills, holes in the walls, broken doors and damage from an overflowing toilet.
The sting resulted in charges being filed against about 30 people, most for low-level drug sales and gun possession counts. But agents had the wrong person in at least three cases. In one, they charged a man who was in prison - as a result of an earlier ATF case - at the time agents said he was selling drugs to them.
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ARE WE TALKING AN M-4??
BAN THE ATF IN CHICAGO TO KEEP THE FULLY AUTOMATIC ASSAULT WEAPONS OFF THE STREETS!
story continues..
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[...}..Other cases reveal that the agency's operation was paying such high prices that some defendants bought guns from stores such as Gander Mountain and sold them to the agents for a quick profit
[...]..Guns stolen from ATF SUV
As the gun and drug buys continued, the operation went awry. In September, an agent parked his Ford Explorer at the Alterra on N. Humboldt Blvd., about a half mile away, with three ATF guns stored in a metal box in the back.
About 3 p.m. Sept. 13, an Alterra employee spotted three men breaking into the Explorer. They stole three guns: a Smith & Wesson 9mm handgun, a Sig Sauer .40-caliber pistol and an M-4 .223-caliber fully automatic rifle. They also made off with ammunition and an ATF radio, according to a police report. It does not appear from the reports that the agent was at Alterra at the time of the break-in.
A major push began to find the weapons and the men who stole them, police records show. Two men were quickly arrested. An informant told police one of the suspects was showing off the guns and eight magazines of ammunition shortly after the vehicle burglary, according to police records.
One of the suspects hid the machine gun under a bed and took the handguns with him. He was questioned by police and refused to talk. He was released. No one has been charged in the burglary of the ATF guns, according to Milwaukee County Assistant District Attorney Karen Loebel. She declined to say if charges would be coming.
The ATF soon had one of its stolen guns back, however.
The very next day, according to court documents, 19-year-old Marquise Jones contacted agents at Fearless Distributing and sold the Sig Sauer - and another unrelated handgun - back to agents.
The price: $1,400.
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Ha..read the entire piece here it goes on and on.. with false number claims about the impact on crime and other f-ups..
http://www.jsonline.com/watchdog/watchdogreports/atfs-milwaukee-sting-operation-marred-by-mistakes-failures-mu8akpj-188952581.html?abc=Ct5vpWpS
Why does the academy need TWO ASSISTANT UNIT SECRETARIES? Both P.O.'s with no time on the job making 80 grand a year. Hello Ferguson ? Where are you?
Is the female 1 P.O. standing behind rahm & McCarthy heading to the streets?
Wait until civilians get into your personnel file or have to keep track of your time or time off, wait until they start messing with your paychecks.
Why does the dictator of "Human Resources" need a assistant--where is the money coming from?
The city is not gonna hire more civilians. The way it works is they will open those positions up to current city civilian employees and they can move into a simliar position. So the timekeeper in streets and sanitation is gonna now be your district timekeeper. Better make sure you know how many hours you have cause they will only do what the job description says and nothing else.
Good job once again Mike Shields! And once again, the media tells the city's version, tells the FOP version, then gives the city a final word or rebuttal. Everything that Shields says..which we all know is true..in negated by biased reporting. We all know that 200 officers is nothing...we all know that civilians used to have these jobs until someone gutted the department thus forcing officers to fill those positions. We need 2000 more cops..and a judiciary that understands what it is really like on American streets. Neither will happen.
"Crime is down over eight and one half percent in Chicago" (mayor RE)
And The Superintendant, and Wysinger look on with a blank stare....
WTF???
How about the police at city hall that do nothing get rid of them.
As was mentioned in another thread- where do you get the vehicles for the 200 officers put back on the street?
Yea on each watch in 016 we wait at least an hour for a car to come in. Hey Pam Zechman are you reading this?
That's right Pam, We do not have enough squad cars for the already depleted manpower on all watches in all districts.
Are some of you so enamored with yourselves that you really believe a civilian could not do just about every administrative job in the department? Wow, you must really think that your abilities and intelligence soars high into the air. All the department has to do is hire qualified applicants( not that I admit is a a rub ). Every major and minor department in the country has civilians in just about ever admin job and they seem to be doing fine. In some jurisdictions it is written in the law that all sworn personnel must work in the field. Get over yourselves. Working the desk? Well the city will have to retrofit the desks to enhance security of assigned personnel. There should be at least one sworn on duty in the station at all times ( watch commander, admin officer at least). After years of bitching about the " downtown dollies" and the commanders favorites, it looks like things will finally change and now more bitching. You come on the job to be the police so now go hit the street and be the police. The front office has been loaded with police officers and many more assigned to " special assignments" by the commanders. They have operated with impunity for decades. But, you probably will see more retirements now.
Get rid of the XO's who are useless other than to yell and over react on the radio right Mike? See you at the bar Mike Ryan you clown!
What was it called..."Operation Closed Market" ?
1) assign a front office Admin-non essential*.
(* allowed to us time due to avoid outdoor duty)
2) find and reserve the finest vehicle in the fleet.
3) gas, wash, r-service, station run, personal & lunch.
4) report to assigned Violence Zone for 23 minutes after obtaining the Event Number
5) repeat any action in step 3.
6) go In and see the DC.
7) buh-bye.
why dont she investigate some aldermen or storefront reverends.
about welfare abuser or illegals.
why dont she investigate criminals and early parole or judges of cook county.
she didnt care that sandi jackson live in washington collecting a 6 figure salary from her chicago aldermen job.
where is pam on the mayor not funding police pension?
On TV this morning McBubbles said he's got 3 more strategies in the works. He said yesterday (must have been at comppost), he was talking about 3 people who were locked up for UUW, and all 3 were given probation....now 2 of those 3 people are dead, shot by unknown persons.
I don't know about you guys, but the only disappointing this is that they're all not dead. I say give them all probation and let them kill each other off.
Anonymous said...
911 OEMC is starting a new SOP on Sunday. They can now refuse people service. If they deem it a call back job and you don't want call back, they can than refuse you service. Also they will be refusing police officers who are off duty. They said there is no special service. Any garage burglary is a call back job or no service. New rules. off duty means you have no say. The city is about to be come crime ridden. Also you can't ask for a squad car, have to have a reason or its no service. Not enough police to go around any more. But crime down ;)
2/01/2013 01:57:00 AM
They must be starting already because last week a victim called me yelling about being told that after he discovered a burglary and called 911, he HAD TO GO INTO A POLICE station to make a report.
Crime is about to go waaaaaay down on paper, but waaaaaay up in reality.
Fine by me, as a det. that means fewer jobs. People are just going to stop reporting crimes. Who wants to wait in line at the police station waiting on some surly desk person to take a report?
You guys are believing what the two twirling idiots are saying. Nobody is going anywhere. They're telling the public they're sending people out on the street to the hot spots. I call bs. They'll shuffle them around and hide them somewhere. Cause you can bet those left at HQ or in inside spots after the last purge have got some clout.
At this point even the media should be laughing.
The CPD brass have been on TV many times over the years saying they will put insiders back on the street, but the reality is that it really never happens. If it does happen it's briefly. The inside coppers seem to have a "birth right" to never work the streets like the rest of us beat cops. The unit bosses simply just put them on paper as being on the street when they really spend the day inside. Anyone remember when they said there will be no more tact secretaries? Well, that never happened and some districts have two or three tact secretaries now. The bosses just put them on paper making it appear as though they are on the street when they never set foot outside. They just tell 35th street what they want to hear and life goes on. Nothing will change. History repeats it self.
McCarthy and Rahm, the original party rockers.. "EVERY DAY IM SHUFFLIN"
Why doesn't the worthless 019th District XO work a beat car. Really?, man power low and this fannel shirted mustache has nothing better to do than watch which coppers park in vistor parking, by running their tags. At least the city is paying top dollar for garage security, with an useless XO always hawking the lot. You'd think that he would get the hint, that he will NEVER be promoted to Cmdr.... And just leave.
Anonymous said...
MSF, love them or hate them, did a good job. They truly fucked up getting rid of a citywide unit like that.
2/01/2013 01:35:00 AM
MSF and Tru were mostly comprised of young no-nothing police officers, running around chasing ghosts. Thats not good police work nor does it quell crime. Gangs north and south along with the legit coppers from SOS caused a decrease in violent crime because they were locking up or putting pressure on all the right people. Msf and tru locked up mostly hypes and traffic violaters. A good strong, experienced tac team will reduce crime in a district 10 times faster than some 2 year blind tru warrior. The city and the district commanders ruined that spot, so all the good experienced hard working cops retired to the watch only to be replaced by some know it all youngster who couldnt find a gun in the crime lab. Nothing will bring this city back, not tru, msf, or 5000 more police. Morale sucks, this city is corrupt and liberal, and no one wants to put their livelihood in the hands of a cook county jury or liberal federal judge. Face it, its over...if everyone had a brain, you would go to work, back your co-workers up, and go home...Let this city burn, and the mayor and the suck hole supt can burn with it.
Step right up folks barks the Carnival caller.... and pay no attention to that weasel behind the curtain. Queue the circus music!
Anybody see the front page picture on today's Tribune? The caption should have read "Say what???"
Such a joke .... taking two people and temporarily putting them on the watch on bullshit footpost or ghost car , maybe a few weeks they were told... but will still do their "work" in commanders office....big changes on paper only. This dept. Is a joke.
".. CPD response to the IG specifically named "Special Events" as a unit that needs sworn P.O.'s. and can not use civilians..."
riiight- am pretty sure civilians could do VSWO assignments --and event order typing could be done in Patrol (also by civilians--at direction of our overpaid DC,XO, Deputy Chiefs, Chiefs etc)
PAPER MOVE!!! I didn't see one desk person on the street today, didn't hear them called. I did see them in the usual spots inside the station.
Anonymous said...
Inspector General finds 292 office clerks that should be assigned to patrol duties . That means there are another 300 that were hid during his investigation of sworn officers assigned to clerical duty . Another thought , no officer with less than 20 years should work inside .
2/01/2013 09:10:00 AM
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You're an idiot. This job has become infected with 10 year salty-as-fuck coppers who dont give a shit about anybody or anything. It's "Fuck these mutts" and "fuck these bosses." I'm not saying the bosses are right, good, or worthy of personal respect - but the rank and the job are. We got cops who would spend 10 minutes trying to argue someone out of a report that would take two minutes to complete, then bitch when the citizen calls for a supervisor or gets a CR#. But hey, let's make sure that the only people working inside are either triple-salty or cruising with one foot out the door.
How about this - you drive your car, this cop will work in their unit, and this cop will work inside. STFU already and stay in your lane.
Anonymous said...
To the person asking about laterals: The CPD has never accepted laterals. I don't know the reason for the policy. There probably is no reason other than that's the way it's always been. Over 30 years ago I was hired by a suburban pd and sent for training to the Police Training Institute at the U of I, Urbana. Eight months later I was called by the CPD and had to go through the CPD academy for the entire course, covering most of the same material as at PTI. It has been that way for every person coming from another agency. But we are not alone. Over twenty years ago I applied for po jobs in the Phoenix AZ area. Same thing ,would have to attend their academy even though I had been with CPD for over 10 years, starting out as though I was only 21 with no police experience. I stayed with CPD, the grass isn't always greener next door.
2/01/2013 09:35:00 AM
Plenty of suburban coppers grew up here too but we don't wanna live here anymore, let alone start all over again. The burbs definitely has it drawbacks but smaller towns are easier to negotiate without a special phone call accompanying your needs. I would have loved to work for Chicago but there is just too much bs and nonsense. I get pissed everytime McCarthy opens his fricken mouth and he aint even my boss. My whole family is here. If it drives me this insane, just being from here, working for Chicago would probably give me a heart attack.
And who will train said civilians? The copper with 20-30 on the job getting thrown back into circulation? Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!
Hahaha....that's hilarious! Rahm and McNutty are trying everything to avoid hiring and bandage the carnage on the streets. Now, they are asking old timers who have paid their dues and work inside and people with phone calls who have never worked outside to get out there in a car and stop people in the ghetto? Wonder how many contact cards these units will be bringing in?
The list came out tonight of the new Sgt's and P.O.s going to the SAT Teams, did I miss the application period? Anyone....
I was at 35th street today, and boy, you should have heard all the crying, from "I don't work nights", to "I don't have a babysitter cause my husband works 3rd watch, to " I haven't ever been on the streets", It was embarrassing, these are cerified, police officers,crying about having to work, and hit the streets, Next is they have no cars for this new initiative, they are taking every car that is a bosses spare to cars from the mail room. This too will fail, they need to go back to the days of MSF & TRU, sorry to all of you haters, but it is true, MCCarthy is failing, and fast.
Gary will be here long enough to collect a pension!! What a scam! Exempts that come from other states and haven't worked on CPD shouldn't be allowed to collect a pension! Also, pension should be capped at Lt's pay! No more Gold braid pensions for the clouted do nothings!
2/01/2013 09:59:00 AM
Garry? A pension? Do you understand the difference between tenured, sworn employees and contract employees who serve at the will of the mayor?
Academy Gym Staff Some POs inside for over 10yrs Oh Ok they hit the streets in the Summer WoW but not enough
Thanks HoWie
McAJersey Disbands TRU Then Crime Rockets
Lets Disband McJersey baclk to the East Coast He doesnt know Chicago or the CPD
MSF and Tru were mostly comprised of young no-nothing police officers, running around chasing ghosts
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100 percent correct brother. I recently retired and the new kids on the block in those units did nothing about the true crime patterns going on.
In the old gand crime unit' in the early 1980', we made the banger' and their dope houses miserable. They dropped their eyes when they seen us. Now, the punks spit at the squad and the new breed take it. No time otj training the same.
And yes sir, the CPD is doomed ! Weis was not so bad after all !!! This drunk running the show is a zero.
MATH is not Rahmbo's strong area. Just like he "adds" cops to the force by shuffling them around, he thinks he's missing 100K school kids in the last 10 years when CPS records show only about 30K less students than in 2002.
His Math is not "funny" anymore - it's killing our city !
OT a little bit.
Area north is begging the det's on days to work 3rd watch for at least a period or so.
That is because the commander in all his wisdom, put something like 87 people on afternoons and around 128 on days.
So now they're screwed. I did not just complete 28 years on this job to "volunteer" for shit a boss screwed up.
Talk about hiding people. Det's assigned to districts actually working in front office, HGS, RBT office. On paper they're det's in districts. In reality their asses are planted in chairs in Area North.
F*ck you, volunteer to work afternoons. Soft as puppy shit, I swear.
Can anyone post the Sat team list..... Heard it just came out....
The list came out tonight of the new Sgt's and P.O.s going to the SAT Teams, did I miss the application period? Anyone
Can you post the list and where they came from?
Anonymous said...
And who will train said civilians? The copper with 20-30 on the job getting thrown back into circulation? Ha Ha Ha Ha!!!!!!
2/01/2013 06:39:00 PM
90% of the house mouses are not veteran officers, they are young po's with little time on the job that thought they could come on the job, be incompetent and get an inside job. Any fool can look at the commanders office and front office and not see ANY veteran officers in those positions and you are a bigger fool if you dont see or realize that
I cannot understand how or why people bitch about the people who work the front desk. I am responsible for doing the worksheets on my watch and I have to basically beg people to work the front desk. It is brutal on 3rd watch. You have no where to go and you do report after report after report. If you do not want those so called younger people to work the desk then volunteer yourself.
"911 OEMC is starting a new SOP on Sunday. They can now refuse people service. If they deem it a call back job and you don't want call back, they can than refuse you service."
*Crime* may increase, but *reported crime* will drop.
A new McCarthy/Emanuel crime reduction strategy begins!
rb
"I checked the City of Chicago websites for job posting related to the Chicago Police department.
And to my surprise i did not find one posting for any position in the department!"
So many bosses here only understand numbers and reports containing numbers. Many of those inside jobs are the people who actually do the tabulating and preparation of these reports. The bosses just sign them. I suppose they read them once in a while, but at the very least, they sign them.
Those jobs won't be filled and won't get done.
Eventually someone will say, "Hey! This isn't getting done. We need to get somebody in here-now!"
And the cycle begins anew.
rb
Speaking of Admin. people, why are there so many full duty officers in Human Resources? Are six people really necesary in awards? Between officers hanging out in the new asst. director's office kissing her behind and so many officers shooting the breeze for hours on end no work is ever done. Why are there so many officers standing around at award ceremonies who do nothing!!!!Useless. Hire civilian special event planners. They won't spin their wheels as much.
Anonymous said...
I checked the City of Chicago websites for job posting related to the Chicago Police department.
And to my surprise i did not find one posting for any position in the department!
I have a few relatives with college who would love to work at HQ taking I.D. picks or passing out CAPS pens at parades...
2/01/2013 12:19:00 AM
I am a retiree and I could hand out CAPS pens at parades and bus stops and at restaurants. Oh yeah, I am all up about that shit. I wonder if I can still get a City pension and a paycheck like Friends of Richard Daley.
I know, I'll drop his name when I apply. You know, something like, "Hey, don't you know who I am?" "Why I was a top guy for Rich, don't mess with me or Mayor Daley will take a great big giant shit on you!"
Oh baby!
Are they finally drop the forever ( ESP after midnight) in ghetto-land, all the I want the po-lice because ( fill in the blank) is disrespecting me, I want ( fill in the blank) out of my house/ apt, my habitual runaway hasn't stumbled in yet, drunk/ high (fill in the bLank) causing a disturbance or knocking at my door. Let the general public listen to these calls we get dispatched to constantly....... Oh don't forget the infamous "shots fired" and gang members running.
100 percent correct brother. I recently retired and the new kids on the block in those units did nothing about the true crime patterns going on.
In the old gand crime unit' in the early 1980', we made the banger' and their dope houses miserable. They dropped their eyes when they seen us. Now, the punks spit at the squad and the new breed take it. No time otj training the same.
And yes sir, the CPD is doomed ! Weis was not so bad after all !!! This drunk running the show is a zero.
2/01/2013 08:30:00 PM
Is that why there was 800+ homicides and over 3,000+ shootings back then?
Anonymous said...
MSF and Tru were mostly comprised of young no-nothing police officers, running around chasing ghosts
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100 percent correct brother. I recently retired and the new kids on the block in those units did nothing about the true crime patterns going on.
In the old gand crime unit' in the early 1980', we made the banger' and their dope houses miserable. They dropped their eyes when they seen us. Now, the punks spit at the squad and the new breed take it. No time otj training the same.
And yes sir, the CPD is doomed ! Weis was not so bad after all !!! This drunk running the show is a zero.
2/01/2013 08:30:00 PM
Hey cranky old hog leg nobody cares about the old days.They have cameras all over the place.Next time i give somebody a wood shampoo for spitting im gonna testify in federal court that i was possessed by the spirit of ole gang crimes south.I don't doubt you guys ruled by fear but thats only because you would beat the fuck outta people different time and age simply can't be done now.Stay retired and have another Scotch and forget this clown act department.Oh and that old ass leather vest cover in the summer months is very cool i'm super jealous.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
MSF, love them or hate them, did a good job. They truly fucked up getting rid of a citywide unit like that.
2/01/2013 01:35:00 AM
MSF and Tru were mostly comprised of young no-nothing police officers, running around chasing ghosts. Thats not good police work nor does it quell crime. Gangs north and south along with the legit coppers from SOS caused a decrease in violent crime because they were locking up or putting pressure on all the right people. Msf and tru locked up mostly hypes and traffic violaters. A good strong, experienced tac team will reduce crime in a district 10 times faster than some 2 year blind tru warrior. The city and the district commanders ruined that spot, so all the good experienced hard working cops retired to the watch only to be replaced by some know it all youngster who couldnt find a gun in the crime lab. Nothing will bring this city back, not tru, msf, or 5000 more police. Morale sucks, this city is corrupt and liberal, and no one wants to put their livelihood in the hands of a cook county jury or liberal federal judge. Face it, its over...if everyone had a brain, you would go to work, back your co-workers up, and go home...Let this city burn, and the mayor and the suck hole supt can burn with it.
2/01/2013 03:51:00 PM
Your spot on.My district tac team is full of guys that have less than 5 years on they can't even make a 3rd watch bid on the watch but nobody wants the spot and they can't dump anyone because they have nobody to replace them with.
Anonymous said...
That is who these officers are. I've worked with them and this is not the first time I've seen this happen. Great officers but even better people.
008 1st watch
2/01/2013 04:42:00 AM
Just don't ask for time off and the mayor wants you to take a pay cut because you are too expensive.
I cannot understand how or why people bitch about the people who work the front desk. I am responsible for doing the worksheets on my watch and I have to basically beg people to work the front desk. It is brutal on 3rd watch. You have no where to go and you do report after report after report. If you do not want those so called younger people to work the desk then volunteer yourself.
2/01/2013 09:37:00 PM
Quit bitching and moaning, if its so bad go back on a beat car or shall I so go on a beat which you probably have never done They cant force you to work the desk
Garry? A pension? Do you understand the difference between tenured, sworn employees and contract employees who serve at the will of the mayor?
You are right, you need at least 10 years to be vested and twenty for a pension. I'm sure his contract was for 10 years, bet contract was 3 or 4 years
Ok stop praising yourself for being in MSF/TRU u idiots. Having 3 hr lunches getting a head or maybe bullshit activity and going home early was all bullshit. Hey bottom line patrol in beat have just as good of success in arrest then these pre-madonnas at these bs make believe teams.
It started with ECW, WWF, WWE, DX, NWO, LWO, SOS, TRU, MSF, and now SATURATION all the same entertainment as always...
Anonymous said...
Smoke and mirrors...never gonna happen...so move along. 008 on days has two watch sec, a desk sgt, and bid desk people while the Lt hides in his office..yet I was denied a day off because the cars couldn't be manned..WTF
2/01/2013 08:52:00 A
HaHa...hasn't anyone disconnected Scotchbreath's TV yet?
Yes, they can force you to work the desk. The reason why younger officers work the front desk in my District is because more senior officers do not want to. As a person who does the sheets I can put anyone (with the DSS's blessing) on the desk. Just as long as I do not adjust your starting times more than 2 hours you are fair game. Again, the desk is a necessary evil-someone has to do reports, answer the phone, do inventories and I-Bonds etc. I would welcome any veteran officer to come to me and volunteer.
Anonymous said...
I cannot understand how or why people bitch about the people who work the front desk. I am responsible for doing the worksheets on my watch and I have to basically beg people to work the front desk. It is brutal on 3rd watch. You have no where to go and you do report after report after report. If you do not want those so called younger people to work the desk then volunteer yourself.
2/01/2013 09:37:00 PM
Quit bitching and moaning, if its so bad go back on a beat car or shall I so go on a beat which you probably have never done They cant force you to work the desk
2/02/2013 03:33:00 PM
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Spot on...! These spots (desk, HQ, Academy, and so on) are so bad that people are overworked. (Some do the work of 3 or 4 people.)If these spots involved so much work, then they would get filled by reverse seniority.
Rahm:
If you want to talk efficiency why not cut your city council in half?. It would make them more "efficient" and save millions "for the taxpayers"
Or also look at all the waste and "inefficiencies" in city hall and city government which is overwrought with political hires and bloated middle management.
What's that you say? Addressing these " inefficiencies" isn't really your goal but destroying the police department is?
Your words and actions show you for what you are a loud mouthed,spoiled rotten, bully who insists on having everything his way.
Rahm:
If you want to talk efficiency why not cut your city council in half?. It would make them more "efficient" and save millions "for the taxpayers"
Or also look at all the waste and "inefficiencies" in city hall and city government which is overwrought with political hires and bloated middle management.
2/03/2013 03:15:00 AM
silly rabbit.
1. which half of the city council do you think rahmbi would keep, even if the office of the mayor had the authority to change the number of wards, thus the number of alderpunks?
2. which 'political hires' do you think he would eliminate, and which would he retain?
3. do you really want to support this prick eliminating all of his political adversaries' clout mutts, leaving only those mutts loyal to him?
4. unless we city residents can oust the entire bunch of fucknuts and replace them with people who are not also fucknuts, it's far better to have the fucknuts fighting over the spoils of fucknuttery than to reduce their number to a solid, loyal to this prick, crew.
Anonymous said...
Why doesn't the worthless 019th District XO work a beat car. Really?, man power low and this fannel shirted mustache has nothing better to do than watch which coppers park in vistor parking, by running their tags. At least the city is paying top dollar for garage security, with an useless XO always hawking the lot. You'd think that he would get the hint, that he will NEVER be promoted to Cmdr.... And just leave.
2/01/2013 03:49:00 PM
can you imagine being such a douch that this is important stuff in your mind? He and his snitch O.O. in the office will never leave...
Anonymous said...
I cannot understand how or why people bitch about the people who work the front desk. I am responsible for doing the worksheets on my watch and I have to basically beg people to work the front desk. It is brutal on 3rd watch. You have no where to go and you do report after report after report. If you do not want those so called younger people to work the desk then volunteer yourself.
I feel sorry for you. I never realized the BRUTALITY of writing a report. As far as no where to go, did you mean no where to hide
You mean like guys taking one hour to do a simple battery case report or staying down on lunch one hour. Maybe brutal was the wrong term, but it is a pain in the ass. I would welcome the chance to put more senior officers on the desk if they would volunteer. The point being, not everyone on the desk is a dog...and not every desk crew has 5 people on it like some districts...try doing a busy westside district with 2 people. And before you come back and say , well then go back on the street, the point being the people that I put on the desk are put their against their wishes because nobody wants it.
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