It's Working!!!
- Police Supt. Garry McCarthy said incidents in two neighborhoods on the same night this week showed police have the right strategy in reducing the number of 911 calls that officers respond to in person.
- Police said, on Monday, two sets of incidents showed why the new guidelines should help officers respond more quickly to true emergencies.
On Monday, a caller in the Chicago Lawn District made an emergency call to report the catalytic converter had been stolen from his car. At the same time, in the same area, there were 911 calls for domestic disturbances.
Just after midnight that night, a 911 call from the Grand Central District reported a stolen wallet. At the same time, nearby, a caller said someone was being beaten.
McCarthy said, “Those are anecdotes that really support what we’ve been saying.”
Um....these two incidents show what exactly? OEMC receives how many tens of thousands of calls a day? We respond to how many thousands of those calls? And all that McStrategy#43 can find are two calls that might demonstrate a car was available....on a Monday night into Tuesday, a notorious slow time?
This isn't only a stretch of the truth, it's a stretch of the imagination.
This isn't only a stretch of the truth, it's a stretch of the imagination.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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But his strategy from day one was to focus on the little things because they prevent the major things from happening.
Where you wrong then or are you wrong now -- or maybe it's both?
"This isn't only a stretch of the truth, it's a stretch of the imagination."
what's next, pink polka dotted elephants?
O.T. Watch Your Children
In the 25th district last year, an officer's personal home was targeted. Gang bangers blew up a m80 in his back yard and tagged his garage up. Watch your children and make sure they do not associate with other kids that are involved in gang activities. As police officers sometimes earning that overtime check should be less of a priority than watching our own children.
"On Monday, a caller in the Chicago Lawn District made an emergency call to report the catalytic converter had been stolen from his car. At the same time, in the same area, there were 911 calls for domestic disturbances.
Just after midnight that night, a 911 call from the Grand Central District reported a stolen wallet. At the same time, nearby, a caller said someone was being beaten."
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What McWetBrain failed to relate was that the theft of the catalytic converter was the catalyst for the Baby Mama Domestic Drama.
And the person being beaten? That's because he refused to willingly comply with the request to hand over his wallet fast enough.
I can't recall another time when the desperation by those at the helm has ever been so enjoyable to watch.
Fuck you, Garry. And fuck you twice as hard, Rahm.
I'm convinced Garry is nuts. I heard delusional people before. I always took them to the hospital to get meds.
O.T. Facebook
Can someone please explain to me why in the fucking world if you are the police you would want to be a Facebook user? The entire idea is fucking insane. You are going to put up pictures of your darling wife, children and other relatives? Plus you are going to tell the entire world you are the big bad police officer? It's fucked up that a piece of shit criminal can find all about you in the internet age but you are going to make it much easier? Plus now with your kids, wife and other relatives plastered on Facebook they can mess with them too. Sometimes common sense is not too common.
I really feel sorry for you guys. A police force full of highly capable, intelligent police offers that want to do their jobs, and a complete buffoon as your leader. McCarthy should develop and market a magic kit for kids who dare to dream of being a laughing stock when they grow up:
McCarthy's Magic Shit Kit!
"Pull incorrect numbers out of thin air!"
Convince local media that things are not as they seem - better, when they're worse!"
"Balance your tiny boss in the palm of your hand and watch him dance!"
"Bonus Trick! Manipulate numbers in a computer just like Ferris Bueller did!"
OT: Nightline opened with the story about the retaliatory rampage.
The first words were "Tonight a manhunt is underway in southern California and the Los Angeles Police Department is under siege. Ten thousand law enforcement officers are conducting door to door searches for one of their own. A fugitive ex-cop..."
Whoa! NOT 'one of our own', ABC. An EX-cop, who was fired several years ago, is NOT one of our own.
Every time he opens his mouth... bodies drop
Yeah, but what McNewstrategy failed to mention is that particular domestic disturbance involved two children fighting over the remote control. Thank heavens the police were available to respond to that emergency!! This guy is way too smart to be running this dump. He should get a federal job, soon, now, I mean right now.
Mmmm, please pass the Koolaide!
Does he know 311 takes reports over the phone for years. Oh, I forgot, it's a new strategy ... Must have called while drinking..
At Comstat Supt Mc stated he would appreciate it if he doesn't read about new strategies in the news before he tells the media It's true PPOs will be on Foot. He mentioned more promotions of Dets, Sgts &. Lts. Beside his extreme warm & fuzziness with Leo S it was uneventful.
McDumbAss, this article doesn't show how the strategy is working. It just lists the calls to 911. It sounds like a grocery list.
You never talk about a no hitter or a perfect game till the game is over. Don't start patting yourself on the back just yet. Warmer temps on the way.
What an idiot.
You can see that the human brain is destroyed by alcoholism.
OT From a citizen troll: Great episode of the First 48-Missing Persons last night. A very nice job by the CPD personnel and a great showcase of the CPD as people. Sad ending but the woman did what the woman was going to do and no one could have stopped her, not even her daughter. Interesting how the daughter and detective both lost their moms within weeks or so of each other. And by the way, is that Marine Unit something else or what? (Sgt. Ray, comb your hair, you are on national TV dude) I'd like to see the violent crimes detectives featured but because the citizens in this city are so much shit and the no snitch code is integral of Chicago values, probably best to leave Miami, Dallas and Harris County, TX as featured units. You do not want to show on national TV that you can kill someone in Rahms Chicago and have a 75% chance of getting away with it because your fellow citizens live by such an honorable moral code.
Now if he could only remove the intermediate steps and have the victims just fuggedaboutit. Don't call us, we'll call you.
So now a few minor incidents that don't really say anything make a trend? The statistical insignificance here is huge.
A more likely indicator of future incidents would be the 4 hoods shot on that street corner yesterday afternoon.
Illustrating Chicagoland Idiocy, Mayhem and Stupidity at heyjackass.com
We're stretching something but I am not saying what.
Checked McNuttjob out on channel 11 last night. I think he really believes his own lies.
So what's the point GMAC? With all the national attention of Chicago murders you are trying to do what by releasing that silly story?
At compstat there were people wearing ID cards that said contractor (or vendor - shows how much I paid attention) and the professor from uic who worked on the procedure justice stuff. Why were they there?
And it was interesting how wonderful deputy chief Leo was doing. Oh wait, except all the enforcement I'd down in 007. That promotion is gonna bite McNewYork on the ass.
I think McCarthy wants to be Mayor he is the most visible in the news
OK Garry, I will accept your anecdotes as evidence your genius plans are working.
What about the 512 homicides last year? What do they prove?
I'm beginning to think he actually believes his own bullshit.
OT: SCC, no one seems to picking this up in the media but there was a CPD officer who took his life this week. AT least maybe you can give it some coverage so that the family can feel the support of the community for their loss.
http://truenewsusa.blogspot.com/2013/02/chicago-police-officer-found-dead-today.html
Prayers for his family, and prayers for all the first responders in this thankless city.
This stuff is very vague....im confused. Do we show up when someone drunk shoots out streetlights, or when someone starts a donnybrook over the merits of football versus rugby? What about a bag of mysterious tomatoes on a front porch...does that go to 311??
Some great posts regarding security of your family, when your the Police. Many are too concerned with their social status than family security. Its not hard to find you,your spouse or your kids when your in cyberspace. But it doesnt surprise me anymore.
Lets see, your on a stolen wallet call and you cannot clear for a in progress violent crime? really?
Ok but in fairness we all know there is no need for police to respond to a lot of the petty, ridiculous calls we get. It's fine if you hate the guy and the 6,541 strategies we have seen him try so far,but the knit picking is what makes us look like assholes to the general public
Anonymous said...
O.T. Watch Your Children
In the 25th district last year, an officer's personal home was targeted. Gang bangers blew up a m80 in his back yard and tagged his garage up. Watch your children and make sure they do not associate with other kids that are involved in gang activities. As police officers sometimes earning that overtime check should be less of a priority than watching our own children.
2/08/2013 12:45:00 AM
Absolutely Right!!! Or you can let the village raise your child...you can see where that's gotten us.
Go back home already Jerk!!!
We of the CPD are the envy of NYPD and NJPD. We have their native son showing us how it's done in New York.
Homicides out of control. Robberies according to FBI numbers at an all time high, Burglaries all time high. Wildings out of control.
Gold coast becoming the dead coast.
Citizens leaving the Chicago area for late night entertainment in droves.
This is leadership! But have no fear citizens. The new plan is working. Just like all the previous ones.
I hear laughter coming from the East coast. Stop laughing, take him back!
Those catalytic converters are worth $ 150.00 each at the junkyard and all you need is a reciprocating saw.
I left my car at a shop to have some work done on it and later I found the converter had been replaced by a "Y" connector. But with no proof I could not go back and raise hell with the repair shop owner. Beware, those thieves can and WILL STRIKE ANYWHERE.
All you officers driving around and not even doing the most basic of law enforcement cry the most about getting what you think you deserve. If we took 80% of you off the street there would almost be no difference in response times.Goahead look around the roll call room.the bosses ask for the most basic stuff like a contact card and you complain. $80'000 a year and you cant even do that. Not all of you but enough to have the citizens say wtf? Do your job. McCarthy is a joke and you don't work for him. You work for you and your family.
This statement is so true and very well said. Those doing the least complain the most, those doing the most complain the least. Then they run right to the blog and write pure crap because the Lt. or XO tries to get work out of them. They are so immature they resort to name calling and petty BS. Grow up people, you are the police. Many others than CPD read the blog, try a little professionalism when posting here. Some of us still proud to do the job.
Does McCarthy E V E R shutup? Every other day this goofball is flapping his gums talking to reporters about how great he is and how great his ideas are when we all know they all suck and it's nothing but the good ole smoke n mirror show and the sheeple of Chitown believe whatever this man says.
We are still responding to nonsense calls. Last night a loud snowblower at 10pm, and an 11 year old kid that won't go to bed.
The useless parents that procreate and then decide they would rather call 911 and ask a cop to be the baby daddy or baby mama. It's nonsense and the insanity has not stopped. Mcknucklehead and mcrahmgoof can say all they want. They are full of lies and the killing wont stop because parents don't parent their kids anymore. Kids nowadays pregnant make a baby and that's where their responsibility stops.
Usually gramma or grandpa are the ones raising the kid that's why these children have no guidance and that's why they join gangs and are killing one another at an alarming rate.
This cycle will continue and no matter what bullshit strategy is put in place this is a way of life for people. It can't and won't be changed because we don't get total cooperation from all in the neighborhoods.
Remember we are only as good as the info we get from our eyes and ears on the streets.
The Mayor has no clue
The Superintendent has no clue
Anyone not living on the streets, in a project setting or attached to a gang has no clue
This is a way of life and no matter what everyone does or tries nothing will change
Take a pig, put a dress and heels on it and some makeup and a wig........you know what you have now , yes still a pig just looks different. That's what all these strategies are.
Wake up mr mayor
Wake up mr McCarthy
Wake up media
No matter how you paint it, dress it, or try to hide its still and will always be a PIG
Stay safe all
so - if someone breaks into my garage and steals my stuff - police wont show up... but if i go surfing off of 57th street beach - where its legal by the way - police show up?
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-police-responding-to-call-find-surfers-at-57th-street-beach-20130208,0,80010.story
O.T. Facebook
Can someone please explain to me why in the fucking world if you are the police you would want to be a Facebook user? The entire idea is fucking insane. You are going to put up pictures of your darling wife, children and other relatives? Plus you are going to tell the entire world you are the big bad police officer? It's fucked up that a piece of shit criminal can find all about you in the internet age but you are going to make it much easier? Plus now with your kids, wife and other relatives plastered on Facebook they can mess with them too. Sometimes common sense is not too common.
2/08/2013 12:48:00 AM
Couldn't agree more. Cut mine off the day I started. Unnecessary risk to take and easy one to fix
We need to get rid of this guy. I am so embarrassed to be CPD with this fuck in charge.
CPD Operation YoYo -- You're On Your Own.
This isn't going to play well in the reach out to the community strategy.
Vigilantism will be on the rise. Why?
I called 911 when they stole my catalytic converter and no-one showed. Yeah and I called when a guy that stole my wallet and no-one showed either....and I called when a guy started beating me and no-one showed.
CPD isn't going to do anything when you call them, You're On Your Own is the message!
What are we paying taxes for?
If things really go to hell like they are currently doing in places like LA? Who are the police going to protect? They will protect who they are ordered to protect.
They will protect their own first. The politicians second and the corporate business owners doing the campaign contributions third.
People of Chicago. You're On Your Own.
In LA a threat is made against a cop and 50 officers are assigned as personal body guards of the cops. If an average citizen gets a threat of homicide violence I don't see any mass forces being assembled for any of them. Get real right, but it's the truth.
Trying to play this illusion that we have a police force to protect the people is a farce and to top it off the politicians want to create an environment where we can't protect ourselves.
You're On Your Own.
2 killed yest
Who the hell is Jonathan L Johnson and how/why has he been appointed to be commander of the superintendents office? Yet another exempt/command staff position? What's the total amount of new command staff positions created verses eliminated in this new administration? And only two demotions? I thought we were going away from a top heavy department. So much for that huh.
Auto theft & theft reports where no offender was still at the scene or there was a long time before the call was made to 9-1-1 were always given to Call Back for a report. This is nothing "NEW". If the caller insisted to talk to a 9-1-1 supervisor - in 10 out of 10 cases the supervisor would crap him/herself and tell the call taker to " send the Police ". Same thing still going on ??? Hum . . . .
OT If you want to complain about McCarthy, how would you like to work in Waukegan with this guy as your boss
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-waukegan-police-suicides-20130208,0,1239556.story
yahoo is reporting that JJ jr signed a plea deal but nothing in our local news. as of 1:30
everytime he opens his mouth we get a heavy amount of shootings and homicides. So, he opens his mouth and what happens you ask???? Yep, 4 shot in 004 on 75th street. One murdered in 007 and one murdered in 009. This guy doesnt know when to shut up does he.. and that was on a cold and snowy thursday night.
Why does it seem to me that Jody Weis is looking better all the time. Garry McMouth is a self-centered idiot who makes shit up for air time. Wheeeeh!
Check the homicide yesterday afternoon in 009th district- 19yo m/4 shot multiple times in the head and found in a back yard. This piece of shit Satan Disciple gangbanger was convicted on 02Feb2012 for uuw by gangmember and sentenced to 4 years in IDOC- almost 1 year to the date he is back on the street. Who the f&*k keeps letting these jagoffs out of prison before even serving half of there sentence. Dont get me wrong i guarantee he deserved what happened and its saving us money. I thought that new state was to keep gangmembers behind bars.
We are a large city police department. If McStreetlights doesn't think we should be able to handle two separate calls for service at the same time, then he should resign immediately. What an idiot!
These strategies are a joke!
I was listening to WBBM radio last weekend AND ONLY NOW are a few leaders in the south and west side communities pointing a very weak finger at the failures of parents and leaders in those locations. I say a weak finger, because one of the "reverends" believes the answer is to throw more money at the problem.
The solution, I believe, is to take social welfare money away from these areas. There are opportunities for these young people if they stay in school, work hard at their studies, get part-time jobs that will lead to other employment. Or, if we continue to throw money at the problem, make the recipients accountable for what they receive and limit the amount of time they receive benefits.
The gang banging kids and their dysfunctional homes get enough free benefits that leaves them with plenty of time to get involved in illegal activities. Take away the benefits. Make them work for their living like the rest of us. Have leaders of their communities hold them responsible. Do these things and I bet THAT STRATEGY will work better then McCarthy's.
On another radio program, someone was saying how there are very few GED programs on the south side. One person, in his early 20's was lamenting how terribly difficult it is for him to commute to a location to get his GED and that just makes it not worth the effort. The question was never asked why didn't he stay in school in the first place. The second point is that the reporter did not take him to task for all of his excuse making in why he is not going for his GED anyway.
Want a strategy that will work to end violence in these volatile areas? Then get leaders who encourage and demand that people build themselves up and improve their lives, instead of waiting for it to be done for them.
Tic - Toc Gary
Tic - Toc...
Time is running out...
Better start packing your shit in plastic bags for that move back to New York...
how about the police response to the "potentially suicical" person this week in rogers park that involved 15 units including marine, when the guy wasn't even in CHICAGO, he was in Wilmette?
With all of the press coverage about moving admin positions back to the street, why no mention about the Deputy Budget Director being made a Commander assigned to the Superintendent's Office? Isn't that a glorified admin position? Or is it just do as I say not as I do?
Anonymous said...
O.T. Facebook
Can someone please explain to me why in the fucking world if you are the police you would want to be a Facebook user? The entire idea is fucking insane. You are going to put up pictures of your darling wife, children and other relatives? Plus you are going to tell the entire world you are the big bad police officer? It's fucked up that a piece of shit criminal can find all about you in the internet age but you are going to make it much easier? Plus now with your kids, wife and other relatives plastered on Facebook they can mess with them too. Sometimes common sense is not too common.
2/08/2013 12:48:00 AM
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Well said!! I never understood why Police Officers did this, but then again I'm what you may call an "old timer" and am not into the whole social media thing. Several of the silly ass Sergeants & Lieutenants in my district are on Facebook and they're soft as puppy shit!
Think, people!!
OT; Rahm has decided even his 'friend' is expendable. He's firing the red light camera company.
Vanecko-Cam could be incorporating any minute now.
OT: Heard from my Source at Revenue
Off duty PO's vehicle ticketed for RPP violation near 47th and Homen (from what I heard today at work).
While that sucks..and I have sympathy for anyone that gets a Ticket from Finance or the CPD...what the PO did next is nuts.
PO drove around and verbally accosted the first PEA they could Find and attempted to Bribe her with 100.00 for the issuing ticket writers name and location.
Was caught on Voice Recorder (internal for all Ticket Machines used by Finance and On all shift without the writers ability to turn them off) and Camera.
OT If you want to complain about McCarthy, how would you like to work in Waukegan with this guy as your boss
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-waukegan-police-suicides-20130208,0,1239556.story
2/08/2013 01:30:00 PM
After reading Chief Daniel Greathouse's words, calling the police officers who committed suicide 'selfish' and 'weak', I am sickened. This is no leader. This is no motivator. This man is obtuse and obnoxious. Moreover, his words and actions are likely harmful and certainly hurtful.
My sympathy to the Waukegan police department on the loss of their officers and on the horrible person who is their 'chief'.
agreed with the posters....in America, as was founded, individual responsibility is the key.....family structure is crucial.....government will never be a substitute for family (although they might send some money (link, WIC, etc.) for support....cap that money, regardless of the number of kids....to the adults....stand up! and take responsibility.......
If he wants to take credit, let him.
But when the numbers start to rise, with absolutely no connection to the weather, he'll have to take the blame, too.
Why does it seem to me that Jody Weis is looking better all the time.
Well let's not get crazy here.
Comparing one steaming pile to another is pointless.
They were both hatchet men for their respective bosses and did irreparable damage to CPD.
Anonymous said...
Checked McNuttjob out on channel 11 last night. I think he really believes his own lies.
2/08/2013 08:05:00 AM
The only reason he sounds reasonably intelligent is because Phil Ponce keeps restating his comments into something understandable. Then McCarthy looks relieved and says, "yeah, Phil, exactly".
Ponce constantly feels he has to put words into McCarthy's mouth because McCarthy can't adequately explain himself. It's very unprofessional.
OT: Jesse Jackson Jr. signs plea deal; judge to decide if he serves jail time
http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-250_162-57568424/jesse-jackson-jr-signs-plea-deal-judge-to-decide-if-he-serves-jail-time/
These strategies are a joke!
I was listening to WBBM radio last weekend AND ONLY NOW are a few leaders in the south and west side communities pointing a very weak finger at the failures of parents and leaders in those locations. I say a weak finger, because one of the "reverends" believes the answer is to throw more money at the problem.
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Yesterday father fleiger was on WBBM. He said that he knows for a fact that 95 percent of gang members in Chicago do not want to be in a gang, do not want to shoot and kill each other, do not want to sell and use drugs; and they want to get up in the morning and go to work at a legit job, they want to go to high school and college, they want to own and care for a home.
Father fleiger said he knows this because he has been talking to these gang members every day for decades. Fleiger said "herelies the problem - you cannot just tell gang members to stop the shooting and drug dealing and gang banging - you cannot just tell people to stop doing something without giving them options - you have to provide them with the options and give them a job and a home and a college degree."
Need I say more?
FACEBOOK. Seems everyone has a Facebook account. I could not agree more with why have one when and if your posting pictures of your family, yourself in uniform, or my personal favorite YOUR ARRESTS. Not to mention wayyyy too many coppers I know advertise they are the police in some way or another online. You are only setting yourself up for disaster. If you want to keep in contact with your family and friends, prob best to use your phones. STAY SAFE!
010th district lost of morale on each watch due to "La Pena's" micro management of POs and white shirts on each watch-what is the solution? NO CONFIDENCE VOTE!
"... I say a weak finger, because one of the "reverends" believes the answer is to throw more money at the problem. ..."
The "reverends" don't want Rahm, Quinn or BHO to thrown money at more police but to fund their Poverty Pimp Programs.
Rahm and the Democrats want to do that because the "reverunds", CeaseFire and so-on can deliver votes while Cops and Firemen vote Republican or don't vote at all.
Stay Safe, March, Register Vote and make the politicians FEAR US!
If you think Jody Weiss is looking good you need to have your eyes checked. I'm thinking you need glasses. GMAC has not put a cop in jail yet. Oh you forgot Bill Cozzi already?
>>>Anonymous said...
Why does it seem to me that Jody Weis is looking better all the time. Garry McMouth is a self-centered idiot who makes shit up for air time. Wheeeeh!
2/08/2013 02:18:00 PM <<<
Let me make this perfectly clear to you in language you can understand...
FUCK JUDY WEIS!
We need to change city hall and get a leader(s) from our own ranks.
From the last paragraph of my "manifesto":
"Chicago's youth violence is a prime example of how our black communities values have declined. We can not address this nation's intolerant issues until we address our own communities morality issues first."
Just another Democommunist.
Anonymous said...
All you officers driving around and not even doing the most basic of law enforcement cry the most about getting what you think you deserve. If we took 80% of you off the street there would almost be no difference in response times.Goahead look around the roll call room.the bosses ask for the most basic stuff like a contact card and you complain. $80'000 a year and you cant even do that. Not all of you but enough to have the citizens say wtf? Do your job. McCarthy is a joke and you don't work for him. You work for you and your family.
This statement is so true and very well said. Those doing the least complain the most, those doing the most complain the least. Then they run right to the blog and write pure crap because the Lt. or XO tries to get work out of them. They are so immature they resort to name calling and petty BS. Grow up people, you are the police. Many others than CPD read the blog, try a little professionalism when posting here. Some of us still proud to do the job.
Sincerely,
A know nothing kool-aid drinking recruit.
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
"On Monday, a caller in the Chicago Lawn District made an emergency call to report the catalytic converter had been stolen from his car. At the same time, in the same area, there were 911 calls for domestic disturbances.
Just after midnight that night, a 911 call from the Grand Central District reported a stolen wallet. At the same time, nearby, a caller said someone was being beaten."
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What McWetBrain failed to relate was that the theft of the catalytic converter was the catalyst for the Baby Mama Domestic Drama.
And the person being beaten? That's because he refused to willingly comply with the request to hand over his wallet fast enough.
I can't recall another time when the desperation by those at the helm has ever been so enjoyable to watch.
Fuck you, Garry. And fuck you twice as hard, Rahm.
2/08/2013 12:45:00 AM
Comments like this are why people think the police are dumb. All violence is a random and spontaneous disturbance of the ether. No episode of violence has ever been attributed to a cause. Maybe you should read a modern physics textbook before you spread your causality witchcraft on the blog, old timer.
-U of C Student
Anonymous said...
These strategies are a joke!
I was listening to WBBM radio last weekend AND ONLY NOW are a few leaders in the south and west side communities pointing a very weak finger at the failures of parents and leaders in those locations. I say a weak finger, because one of the "reverends" believes the answer is to throw more money at the problem.
The solution, I believe, is to take social welfare money away from these areas. There are opportunities for these young people if they stay in school, work hard at their studies, get part-time jobs that will lead to other employment. Or, if we continue to throw money at the problem, make the recipients accountable for what they receive and limit the amount of time they receive benefits.
The gang banging kids and their dysfunctional homes get enough free benefits that leaves them with plenty of time to get involved in illegal activities. Take away the benefits. Make them work for their living like the rest of us. Have leaders of their communities hold them responsible. Do these things and I bet THAT STRATEGY will work better then McCarthy's.
On another radio program, someone was saying how there are very few GED programs on the south side. One person, in his early 20's was lamenting how terribly difficult it is for him to commute to a location to get his GED and that just makes it not worth the effort. The question was never asked why didn't he stay in school in the first place. The second point is that the reporter did not take him to task for all of his excuse making in why he is not going for his GED anyway.
Want a strategy that will work to end violence in these volatile areas? Then get leaders who encourage and demand that people build themselves up and improve their lives, instead of waiting for it to be done for them.
2/08/2013 02:59:00 PM
If you want to get ahead, you will. If you want to suceed, you will.
Back when, I had an unplanned semester attending the University of Judge Saul Epton at 937 N Wood St. That ended my formal high school education. Afterwards I got my GED and didn't complain, I just got it.
That GED got me through a career as a police officer on the Chicago Police Department. Now I have a BA and am working on a Masters, while retired.
No LINK cards, No food stamps, no bastard felons for children. No crying looking for someone to blame my plight on. I was headed south. Judge Epton told me that from that day on I would head north. That man changed my life. For the better. That was after his conversion to conservativism.
Now if anyone had been aorund to give me free shit I doubt I would have valued what I had to work hard to attain. But you don't know these things until later, often much later.
We are doing the black community a profound diservice by giving so much in the name of "help." It does the opposite of what is intended. Of course you can't make anyone believe this. I know it because I lived it. But it is rare that I can convince anyone. I just did my part in being tough but fair.
If Judge Epton were still around I would love to go thank him for saving my ass.
I 'd love to go one on one with mctupid and debate his stupid ass on his comments and beliefs!
Hey, lets admit it, having BS calls handled by ARP is a good thing, for everyone.
In the 25th district last year, an officer's personal home was targeted. Gang bangers blew up a m80 in his back yard and tagged his garage up. Watch your children and make sure they do not associate with other kids that are involved in gang activities. As police officers sometimes earning that overtime check should be less of a priority than watching our own children.
Actually, it was in 16.
OT: SCC, no one seems to picking this up in the media but there was a CPD officer who took his life this week
Because it's a private matter...idiot.
cpd is top heavy
good laugh when commander of 17 telling reporter he knows it's scary out here
any chance he was a merit sgt , lt before he was promoted to commander
Lets face it. I would not wish the job of Chicago Police Superintendent on my worst enemy. I this political town you just cannot win if things are going badly, no matter what you do. These crime incidents just cannot be controlled by the police, no matter who their leaders are. There is a crumbling of morals and ethics in this city led by our elected officials and their corruption. And, there are just not enough cops and never will be to stop what is going on. A police superintendent is hired to be fired and will always have detractors.
Joe Grazia said...
We are still responding to nonsense calls. Last night a loud snowblower at 10pm, and an 11 year old kid that won't go to bed.
The useless parents that procreate and then decide they would rather call 911 and ask a cop to be the baby daddy or baby mama. It's nonsense and the insanity has not stopped. Mcknucklehead and mcrahmgoof can say all they want. They are full of lies and the killing wont stop because parents don't parent their kids anymore. Kids nowadays pregnant make a baby and that's where their responsibility stops.
Usually gramma or grandpa are the ones raising the kid that's why these children have no guidance and that's why they join gangs and are killing one another at an alarming rate.
This cycle will continue and no matter what bullshit strategy is put in place this is a way of life for people. It can't and won't be changed because we don't get total cooperation from all in the neighborhoods.
Remember we are only as good as the info we get from our eyes and ears on the streets.
The Mayor has no clue
The Superintendent has no clue
Anyone not living on the streets, in a project setting or attached to a gang has no clue
This is a way of life and no matter what everyone does or tries nothing will change
Take a pig, put a dress and heels on it and some makeup and a wig........you know what you have now , yes still a pig just looks different. That's what all these strategies are.
Wake up mr mayor
Wake up mr McCarthy
Wake up media
No matter how you paint it, dress it, or try to hide its still and will always be a PIG
Stay safe all
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Very well said, sir.
What is your solution?
These strategies are a joke!
I was listening to WBBM radio last weekend AND ONLY NOW are a few leaders in the south and west side communities pointing a very weak finger at the failures of parents and leaders in those locations. I say a weak finger, because one of the "reverends" believes the answer is to throw more money at the problem.
The solution, I believe, is to take social welfare money away from these areas. There are opportunities for these young people if they stay in school, work hard at their studies, get part-time jobs that will lead to other employment. Or, if we continue to throw money at the problem, make the recipients accountable for what they receive and limit the amount of time they receive benefits.
The gang banging kids and their dysfunctional homes get enough free benefits that leaves them with plenty of time to get involved in illegal activities. Take away the benefits. Make them work for their living like the rest of us. Have leaders of their communities hold them responsible. Do these things and I bet THAT STRATEGY will work better then McCarthy's.
On another radio program, someone was saying how there are very few GED programs on the south side. One person, in his early 20's was lamenting how terribly difficult it is for him to commute to a location to get his GED and that just makes it not worth the effort. The question was never asked why didn't he stay in school in the first place. The second point is that the reporter did not take him to task for all of his excuse making in why he is not going for his GED anyway.
Want a strategy that will work to end violence in these volatile areas? Then get leaders who encourage and demand that people build themselves up and improve their lives, instead of waiting for it to be done for them.
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No question. Entitlements are not the solution.
Entitlements only accelerate the dissolution of the family, and are therefore actually the PROBLEM.
Goahead look around the roll call room.the bosses ask for the most basic stuff like a contact card and you complain. $80'000 a year and you cant even do that. Not all of you but enough to have the citizens say wtf? Do your job. McCarthy is a joke and you don't work for him. You work for you and your family.
You are either an idiot , an insecure troll or a white shirt hiding on the blog. Ask almost any beat cop, contact cards don't mean crap. All they do is create an illusion we are doing police work. My job is to answer calls. If I wanna do police work I will lock people up, but when the DSS only bitches we need more contact cards it human nature to talk about and laugh at it.
If you wanna do some police work go do a traffic stop, go lock someone up, lots of police work to do. NOT CONTACT CARDS.
Now go hide somewhere loser, cause if you are really a blue shirt you are lost my friend.
What is your solution?
2/08/2013 10:52:00 PM
me.
Chalkie
A police superintendent is hired to be fired and will always have detractors.
2/08/2013 10:39:00 PM
than why start your term with copious ass sucking?
Comments like this are why people think the police are dumb. All violence is a random and spontaneous disturbance of the ether. No episode of violence has ever been attributed to a cause. Maybe you should read a modern physics textbook before you spread your causality witchcraft on the blog, old timer.
-U of C Student
2/08/2013 08:13:00 PM
try taking a dump more often then on a weekly basis.
them turds are clogging up your brain.
Sincerely,
A know nothing kool-aid drinking recruit.
2/08/2013 07:48:00 PM
at least you're sincere about something.
Fleiger said "herelies the problem - you cannot just tell gang members to stop the shooting and drug dealing and gang banging - you cannot just tell people to stop doing something without giving them options - "
2/08/2013 06:08:00 PM
and i do.
Chalkie
You're On Your Own.
2/08/2013 11:08:00 AM
words to live by.
Chalkie
I hear laughter coming from the East coast. Stop laughing, take him back!
2/08/2013 09:54:00 AM
go west, young man, go west.
no, a little bit farther west.
no, more west.
no, a bit more.
that's it, keep going.
keep going.
keep going.....
Anonymous said...
West Side, Inside Do-Nothing said...
"On Monday, a caller in the Chicago Lawn District made an emergency call to report the catalytic converter had been stolen from his car. At the same time, in the same area, there were 911 calls for domestic disturbances.
Just after midnight that night, a 911 call from the Grand Central District reported a stolen wallet. At the same time, nearby, a caller said someone was being beaten."
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What McWetBrain failed to relate was that the theft of the catalytic converter was the catalyst for the Baby Mama Domestic Drama.
And the person being beaten? That's because he refused to willingly comply with the request to hand over his wallet fast enough.
I can't recall another time when the desperation by those at the helm has ever been so enjoyable to watch.
Fuck you, Garry. And fuck you twice as hard, Rahm.
2/08/2013 12:45:00 AM
Comments like this are why people think the police are dumb. All violence is a random and spontaneous disturbance of the ether. No episode of violence has ever been attributed to a cause. Maybe you should read a modern physics textbook before you spread your causality witchcraft on the blog, old timer.
-U of C Student
2/08/2013 08:13:00 PM
Nice to see that someone gets, and responds with, sarcasm. Not.
Maybe the sting of shelling-out all that cash for your meaningless degree at U of C will be somewhat softened when your parents see you've at least developed a modicum of common sense. That's if they mistake your nonsensical ramblings as intelligence. Probably ain't gonna happen, champ.
We're far from dumb.
Ignorant? Juvenile? Crass? Obnoxious? Sarcastic? Abrasive? Rude? All of the above and then some, depending on the day and what strikes our fancy.
Now go get your shine box and interpret that, U of C Student.
P.S. Stay off our blog. It's reserved for folks that actually work for a living and exist in the real world. Liberal, artsy-fartsy sheep like yourself should stick to smoking pot and trying to convince other mental midgets of the imagined and created social injustices idiots like you suffer at the hands of the "dumb" police.
No question. Entitlements are not the solution.
Entitlements only accelerate the dissolution of the family, and are therefore actually the PROBLEM.
I'm not the first to say this, but they're NOT entitlements.
Social Security and pensions are entitlements. The recipients paid into them.
Welfare (Link, SSI, Section 8) are HANDOUTS.
Will this guy ever tire of being Rahm's puppet?
You'd think it would've grown very old by now.
LOL at u of c student! It's seriously amazing that two people thought u were being serious. Wow. I got it, at least. I guess some people see u of c and immediately get ready to bash you, but that's ur point lmfao !
Lol u of c, I dont think they got it
1:27, I'm pretty sure that post was actually making fun of U of C students.... I think you guys are on the same page.
-not a cop
Social Security and pensions are entitlements. The recipients paid into them.
Welfare (Link, SSI, Section 8) are HANDOUTS.
2/09/2013 02:10:00 AM
Yes, people pay into SS and pensions and pay something for medicare so they claim these are not entitlements. But, honestly, these programs were created by law, did not exist before the law was passed and could go away at any time if the legislators so voted. And, the amount that a person pays into these programs is recovered within a few short years by the recipitant and then the person is collecting from the general fund which is made up of tax money paid by others and subsidized by everyone. So that in my book is an entitlement which is becoming increasingly hard to keep going. The new study shows that social security will start going in the negative column in 2016, medicare right behind it.
P.S. Stay off our blog. It's reserved for folks that actually work for a living and exist in the real world. Liberal, artsy-fartsy sheep like yourself should stick to smoking pot and trying to convince other mental midgets of the imagined and created social injustices idiots like you suffer at the hands of the "dumb" police.
2/09/2013 01:27:00 AM
Nicely stated!! I worked in Hyde Park for many years starting back as a rookie in 1968. One thing always stood out in my mind: the elitists who attend the U of C might have money ( look at all of the luxuary cars that appear on the streets when school starts), might have better then average intelligence, but sure are lacking in common sense. And, many of them just do not know how to treat others with any respect and decency.
Anonymous said...
With all of the press coverage about moving admin positions back to the street, why no mention about the Deputy Budget Director being made a Commander assigned to the Superintendent's Office? Isn't that a glorified admin position? Or is it just do as I say not as I do?
2/08/2013 04:25:00 PM
These type of assignments have been going on for many years. The pay scales of the police department are higher then other city departments. If you put a civilian into a police department position and give them a title, they will get the money and they really do not have to work in or for the police department. When Harold was mayor the first deputys office had three directors who never set foot in the building or did a lick fo work for the police dept. It can be a way of taking care of people.
Lets face it. I would not wish the job of Chicago Police Superintendent on my worst enemy.
2/08/2013 10:39:00 PM
I would take it. I would have the balls to say what needs to be said. If I get removed then I go back to what I did, knowing I did the right thing. Unlike the souless scum-fucks that take these jobs and check integrity at the door for a chance to lick the boots of those who despise him and mock him behind his back.
OT: SCC, no one seems to picking this up in the media but there was a CPD officer who took his life this week
Why would you want that in the media. If it was your child, would you want it in the papers, you moron
Anonymous said...
A police superintendent is hired to be fired and will always have detractors.
2/08/2013 10:39:00 PM
than why start your term with copious ass sucking?
2/09/2013 12:45:00 AM
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Why? To ensure you reap the entire nearly-a-million bucks you're going to receive during your three-year contract.
The 'u of c' person was clearly joking if you look at what he or she said. The irony is that people started attacking which turned the joke into truth because no one got it.
Well said!! I never understood why Police Officers did this, but then again I'm what you may call an "old timer" and am not into the whole social media thing. Several of the silly ass Sergeants & Lieutenants in my district are on Facebook and they're soft as puppy shit!
Think, people!!
2/08/2013 04:37:00 PM
How about that freak cmd rodriguez who stalks everyone in his unit trying to friend them on FB.
Anonymous said...
All you officers driving around and not even doing the most basic of law enforcement cry the most about getting what you think you deserve. If we took 80% of you off the street there would almost be no difference in response times.Goahead look around the roll call room.the bosses ask for the most basic stuff like a contact card and you complain. $80'000 a year and you cant even do that. Not all of you but enough to have the citizens say wtf? Do your job. McCarthy is a joke and you don't work for him. You work for you and your family.
This statement is so true and very well said. Those doing the least complain the most, those doing the most complain the least. Then they run right to the blog and write pure crap because the Lt. or XO tries to get work out of them. They are so immature they resort to name calling and petty BS. Grow up people, you are the police. Many others than CPD read the blog, try a little professionalism when posting here. Some of us still proud to do the job.
2/08/2013 09:58:00 AM
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Well in 017 we have 1720R to do everything and assign us everything because we are all dogs.
By the way regarding all this stress that builds up that we have and then in roll calls we are told by 1701R that if we have stress problems not to go on meds because the department will refer to us as "nuts". he claimed ther are "nuts" in every district....
So the solution is to go be a town drunk I guess and risk the DUI's as the old Irish solution seems to be the Gaelic police answer.....
No wonder there are police suicides...
SAD!!!!
We don't know what to do as police sometimes and we are being led by these simps in 017 that treat us like idiots..
I can't wait for another 5am assignment by 1720r to jam me up just in time before I go home as he sleeps all night in the parking lot and cemetary then runs around at 5am to make sure he jams all people found sleeping in there vehicles...
WTF! and I am a dog!!!
DO IT YOUR FUCKING SELF.....I didnt sleep all night and I want to go home!!!
"Ignorant? Juvenile? Crass? Obnoxious? Sarcastic? Abrasive? Rude? All of the above and then some, depending on the day and what strikes our fancy."
And proud of it!
We see the worst evil that humanity has to offer. We've earned it.
these programs were created by law, did not exist before the law was passed and could go away at any time if the legislators so voted.
The same with Link, SSI & Section
8, except the Illinois legislators will never vote those away, because that's where so many of their votes come from.
Yesterday father fleiger was on WBBM. He said that he knows for a fact that 95 percent of gang members in Chicago do not want to be in a gang, do not want to shoot and kill each other, do not want to sell and use drugs; and they want to get up in the morning and go to work at a legit job, they want to go to high school and college, they want to own and care for a home.
Boy, these gang bangers sure do a lot if things they don't want to do and don't do the things they want to do.
It's amazing that anyone actually believes this BS.
I would take it. I would have the balls to say what needs to be said. If I get removed then I go back to what I did, knowing I did the right thing. Unlike the souless scum-fucks that take these jobs and check integrity at the door for a chance to lick the boots of those who despise him and mock him behind his back.
2/09/2013 11:18:00 AM
Really? I say bullshit to this comment. I worked with a guy for years and he always seemed decent. Then he received a series of affirmative action promotions. When he made deputy chief he jumped on the band wagon of nepotism, cronyism and ass kissing that they fall into. Once you get that rank and power you sure do not want to give it up and will do what you are told. Even lieutenants who rail against the politics of this job are doomed and they know it. Why do you think that every superintendent, they have contracts and some protection by city ordinance, do what they are told by City Hall? Why do you think that they sell out the average hardworking officers. Just look at the captains promotion process under Hilliard? They know that if they play ball good things will come to them when they finally step down.
Anonymous said...
We need to get rid of this guy. I am so embarrassed to be CPD with this fuck in charge.
2/08/2013 10:54:00 AM
And you were not embarassed with any of his predecessors? Really?
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