NEWSFLASH! Cameras Don't Stop Crime!
Politicians stunned! Media flabbergasted! Liberals blame Bush!
- Even with $26 million in high-resolution cameras finally in full force last year, reported crime at CTA rail stations rose 21 percent, a Chicago Sun-Times analysis shows.
And compared with 2010 — well before most of the CTA’s current 3,600 rail station cameras were installed — station crime was up 32 percent.
An invasion of glass and plastic balls with hanging lenses at CTA train stations has not stopped crime from rising, a Sun-Times examination of online Chicago Police Department data indicates.
The article makes the further claim that two of every three crimes results in a "swift arrests." Based on the fact that crime keeps rising though, we'd say they ought to count the convictions. Or is this another one of those things where we aren't supposed to look too closely at the end results?
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
56 Comments:
Wait a minute. I just heard on the 10 o'clock news that crime on the CTA was down 30%?
"An invasion of glass and plastic balls with hanging lenses at CTA train stations has not stopped crime from rising..."
Well, there's a big surprise.
You're soft if you assume that the most problematic people --
* Ever look up
* Recognize or attach any meanings at all to the thousands of objects in a complex, rectilinear world not of their making
* Would give a flying f__k even if they could understand what some ball thing was.
Take it from there.
Nope, they don't stop crime...they just generate revenue..."for the children".
I've used the cameras quite a bit to identify offenders. The quality is unbelievable. I can't figure out why they still commit crimes on the CTA. I think they just don't care if they get caught. There are no consequences.
Cameras on CTA blow.
Working 5th watch CTA we were at Homan at the blue line. We see a fight going on and board the train. The offenders exit out the back door and doors close on us. We didn't know what was happening so we go to the guy laying on the floor and say we are the police. Victim says those guys just beat me up and took all my money and phone. They ran up the Homan exit and looked right at the camera. I tired to get a video of it from CTA. Guess what they told me. It doesn't work. What a joke.
Moral to the story, don't be the dumb ass white guy riding the blue line with your headphones on asking to be robbed. Because the cameras don't freaking work.
The funding for the cameras comes from the federal government. Street crime is not the intended focus.
Useless people do useless things,I give you city hall!
But I thought that if connected companies got millions to install cameras, they could jump off of the poles and turn into transformers and make arrests when they see crime. This is not the case? They just record your brutal victimization?
Then why were they put in?
So putting more cameras on the street doesn't deter crime than?!
However it does keep people preoccupied and quite that something is being done, right?
It's like...well we can't do anything about the crime over here so we'll right parkers and contact cards over there to show we're doing something about violent crime.
STOP THE MADNESS.
Two of 3 crimes result in arrests.You must be talking about turnstyle jumpers not Robberies.
More evidence suggesting that passengers ought to be allowed CCW.
This has got to be crushing news to "professor" Shortshanks. He loved buying more and more cameras.
You know what stops crime? The absence of shitheads.
Retired to Clearwater two years ago, now spend my days around the orange trees and my dog. Wave to the neighbors, not a shithead in sight.
No crime. Leave the doors unlocked. Neighborhood kids outside happy, playing, not a care in the world. Everyone here has a carry permit and uses it, but there's very rarely a need...
No gangs, no dealers, no pissbums, no dicegames, nobody sitting on 5 gallom buckets drinking malts smoking blunts.
No taxes, no snow.
Man, what a miserable shithole that place was. You don't even realize it until you leave it. Here's to joining the rest of us in retirement, lads. You don't know what you're missing.
The National News is picking up on the poor conviction rate and the short sententcing. When there is no punishment, crime will grow.
It really is that simple.
Yea but I bet a ton of pockets got lined!
Cameras are there to watch the Police Officers not the traveling public, just like the in-car cameras!
It is NOT intended to provide security for the public!
Many times I tried to get videos on the Red line for a victim, only to be told I have to jump through hoops to get a video or the camera does not work or has a bad angle!
But, let a Police Officer have to put hands on an offender for any reason, chances are that video will be in I.A.D. offices and on the news by 10 p.m. and the Officer will face sanctions!
That's because it is as Rahm likes to say: "it's for the children"!
Da Pelon
Two out of three crimes end up in "a swift" arrest? I don't think so. If that was true, then in clear if you look up the number of arrests for the CTA/Mass Transit Unit you would see all of those so called "swift arrests". If that was the case they would put up these high resolution cameras outside the top 100 street intersections and crime would drop substantially.
The government makes up any type of statistic and the "reporters" just report it. No due diligence, no questions asked and no actual inquiry.
Ot: all you coppers keep kissing these asa's ass when you go to court: just know they couldnt care less about you and there main mission is to take away our guns
You know what stops crime? The absence of shitheads.
Retired to Clearwater two years ago, now spend my days around the orange trees and my dog. Wave to the neighbors, not a shithead in sight....
Enjoy. I hope you have many, many peaceful years ahead of you. God Bless.
The CTA unit used to be the biggest hiding place in the department. Most of the unit went to bars and private clubs after they made their one arrest for the night. I am now retired and I travel the trains frequently. Rarely do I see the police. Now the state wants to ban concealed carry from the trains. So the citizens ( to include retired police officers) will have to leave their weapons at home when they take the CTA. That means also on the streets when walking to the bus or train stops, on the train and in walking home. Whats the sense of having concealed carry? Or is that the point of the liberal dems, to take the point right out of the law?
You can't make a sheep a wolf. I also work special I have seen so many liberal idiots riding the el with iPhones and iPads so out touch with the criminal element around them. I told one young liberal woman she should put her iPhone away while on any public transportation. Her reply was "oh, I see just because there are African Americans around you assume they are going to rob me " then she ended her side of this conversation by calling me a racist. I had the rare pleasure of responding to a robery victim outside the red line station weeks later. You quest it , it was lil miss liberal. Shr knew who i was and never said one thing as I took the information for the report. I have no doubt as I write this she is riding the red line still playing with her new iPhone. Forest Gump's summed people like her the best. Stupid is what stupid does.
Man, what a miserable shithole that place was. You don't even realize it until you leave it. Here's to joining the rest of us in retirement, lads. You don't know what you're missing.
2/26/2013 03:50:00 AM
Me thinks me knows. A pension.
Being a doe-eyed naive Chicagoan, could someone please tell me what % of the offenders break down by race? What would be the best type of "people" to avoid at all costs?
Clearwater made me smile. Starting April I will never have to enter that bizarre hamlet of a district again. Keeping Chicago home although, park on two sides and huge yard. My same long time neighbors have been here forever. My second home in Waupaca co.Wisc. that I've had fourteen years does await and will be much more occupied and visited. Pine trees ,two border collies. Neighbors have long guns displayed in cabinets and on racks in the dining rooms like works of art. Taxes,yes but I consider it good exchange to not having to look at the filth nor smell I have had to work in the last twenty years. Myself and my beautiful wife have always said Autumn has been our favorite season and Wisconsin has one that none can compare. Have two snowmobiles we ride to town to watch Packers games. Winter wonderland, ski hill is 3 miles. Taverns decked out in outdoor hunting decor.Sometimes when my wife i'snt looking I steal a look at the rear ends of the local lady's curling club. When we do fly to Florida because we love it also, if we ever run into each other the drinks at the local Tiki bar are on me.
They just record your brutal victimization?
Then why were they put in?
The videos make great bits for the 10 o'clock news.
You know what stops crime? The absence of shitheads.
Retired to Clearwater two years ago, now spend my days around the orange trees and my dog. Wave to the neighbors, not a shithead in sight.
No crime. Leave the doors unlocked. Neighborhood kids outside happy, playing, not a care in the world. Everyone here has a carry permit and uses it, but there's very rarely a need...
No gangs, no dealers, no pissbums, no dicegames, nobody sitting on 5 gallom buckets drinking malts smoking blunts.
No taxes, no snow.
Man, what a miserable shithole that place was. You don't even realize it until you leave it. Here's to joining the rest of us in retirement, lads. You don't know what you're missing.
AMEN!!!!
This is what you need to know...
- the camera is probably broken
- the camera is pointing somewhere else
- nobody is watching the camera
- nobody can ID the mutt in the video
- identification is almost never made on camera image alone.
Now how does a camera prevent crime? It's all security theater to placate the sheeple.
"I think [offenders on CTA] just don't care if they get caught. There are no consequences."
2/26/2013 12:15:00 AM
Most people don't realize that jail doesn't bother the worst ones very much -- if they even notice at all. It's part of the normal environment. Yell, argue, fight, hair care, eat some kind of mess, TV blasting day and night, eventually pass out for 45 minutes with one leg stickin up in the air, jump up, at it again.
Fire hydrant, box of rocks, camera, what. They don't even have names for the things around them.
There is no "psychological deterrent" for people who don't have a brain. It gets physical. There is just "No, you can't do that. No!" and a whack upside the head.
Doesn't register.
Wrestle down, into car, into station, chain to wall, into lockup, onto wagon, into bullpens, chain on bus back and forth to court, more bus in and out of prison.
Doesn't register.
It doesn't register.
It is a little ironic that the city's wizards of smart assume that cameras on the CTA would deter crime when the yahoos and subhumans who commit crimes regularly record their deeds and post them on YouTube. Seems to me that cameras encourage thuggery.
"You know what stops crime? The absence of shitheads."
2/26/2013 03:50:00 AM
Precisely.
So --
DHS releasing illegal immigrants before sequester
"By ALICIA A. CALDWELL | Associated Press – 37 mins ago
"WASHINGTON (AP) — A week before mandatory budget cuts go into effect across the government, the Department of Homeland Security has started releasing illegal immigrants being held in immigration jails across the country, Immigration and Customs Enforcement said Tuesday..."
http://news.yahoo.com/dhs-releasing-illegal-immigrants-sequester-172429302--politics.html
Both sides in this Fiscal Cliff are laughing their ass off -- while Michelle Obama co-opts the Oscars to show us her new hairdo.
They let up on it so as not to spoil the Christmas spending season for the big retailers, picked up on it again until halfway into New Year's Eve when Obama dropped the second-term gravitas and came out as Sparklefarts again to tell party jokes, and now they're really getting imaginative.
This is sick.
11th Dist King said...
"We didn't know what was happening so we go to the guy laying on the floor and say we are the police."
2/26/2013 12:17:00 AM
I have never seen that fail for an opening move.
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God bless. Stay safe!
Sure hasn't deterred crime - "its catch me if you can."
It doesn't register.
2/26/2013 02:24:00 PM
which is where i enter the picture.
Chalkie
Stupid is what stupid does.
2/26/2013 10:25:00 AM
and but for this fact, i'd be unemployed.
Chalkie
Or is that the point of the liberal dems, to take the point right out of the law?
2/26/2013 09:42:00 AM
indeed, it is.
Most of us could've told anyone willing to listen that these cameras are not what the lying politicians tell you that they are.
@ 2/26/2013 10:25:00 AM...
The female of the liberal affiliation is the nastiest, most vicious and fanatically devoted of the breed.
They'd make better suicide bombers than those mouth breathing fools in the Mid East.
You safety concern was wasted because she is "evolved" far above and beyond a brutal, racist, mean and insensitive Chicago Cop.
The fact that you took a report for what you warned her about was lost on her...
The chain of events does not compute to her.
Heh... We've dealt with these creatures on numerous occasions.
One such was miffed (eye-slap and a phone snatch on the Red Line) because we apparently didn't show the appropriate amount of wet-eyed care and concern to suit her.
Called the district desk to complain after she got home...
We were still processing the mutt...
Signed complaint by her and she got her property back after it was inventoried. (Doing it by the numbers!)
"They just seemed like they didn't care!"
No... We don't care. It isn't our job to care about you when you fail to safeguard youraelf.
Yes... The female lib is fanatically detatched from any reality that doesn't jibe with the phony hope & change gospel.
"What do you mean about the world being a dangerous place?"
This is what happens when Mommy and Daddy are friends instead of parents.
These youngsters (male & female) are turned loose in this city without an ounce of preparation other than that liberal arts degree and where to score some "good shit."
Heh... The guys? Daddy didn't even teach them how to stand ground and fight.
But the little shit will key somebody's car for having military, nra or "conservative" stickers on the bumper.
We had one caper where "Brad" got bitch-slapped in HIS eye and ran off leaving little tender-ass "Buffy" with some Skull Men...
Funny shit... Even funnier when he came sniffing back around with his tail between his legs...
Heh... Fuck a camera... Don't shit stop a crime. The burden is on the victim. The Police can't be everywhere.
But the Police are your enemies, right?
Heh... They'll call and complain about that too.
"It's YOUR HIDE! How much do you value it?"
Well the answer to the failure of cameras on the CTA is * speed cameras in school & park zones, 24/7/365 *, to extort more money for cronies, I mean, for the children.
Cameras on CTA blow.
Working 5th watch CTA we were at Homan at the blue line. We see a fight going on and board the train. The offenders exit out the back door and doors close on us. We didn't know what was happening so we go to the guy laying on the floor and say we are the police. Victim says those guys just beat me up and took all my money and phone. They ran up the Homan exit and looked right at the camera. I tired to get a video of it from CTA. Guess what they told me. It doesn't work. What a joke.
Moral to the story, don't be the dumb ass white guy riding the blue line with your headphones on asking to be robbed. Because the cameras don't freaking work.
2/26/2013 12:17:00 AM
So you walk on a train with a guy laid out and you just let the offenders run off the train? Without attempting to get them? Did you post this drunk, as some kind of confession?
Who is the dumb ass again?
and i read they are only stealing cell phones and small stuff...wtf.Sure that's it- take anything you like. With my glock pointed at your f-ing head.
Of course they stop crime!
Haven't you ever seen the show "Person of Interest"?
Anonymous said...
Being a doe-eyed naive Chicagoan, could someone please tell me what % of the offenders break down by race? What would be the best type of "people" to avoid at all costs?
2/26/2013 10:26:00 AM
It's guys like you that make race baiting so prevalent. So if a U of C, black, liberal Cornel West looking guy gets on the bus at 55th...avoid him so he doesn't rob you?!?!?! Afterall he is black. How about ignore my black ass when I respond to the call since a) I don't feel like taking the paper anyway and b) I might feel the urge to get you for whatever goods you still got left...since I am "people" to avoid at all costs. A-S-S-H-A-T
Wow and the idiots elected are trying to run a list a mile long of places that Concealed Carry folks can not carry…the CTA is on the list. Back to making it safer for the badguys…..and we pay these assholes.
So you walk on a train with a guy laid out and you just let the offenders run off the train? Without attempting to get them? Did you post this drunk, as some kind of confession?
Who is the dumb ass again?
2/26/2013 08:28:00 PM
uh, you are.
again.
So you walk on a train with a guy laid out and you just let the offenders run off the train? Without attempting to get them? Did you post this drunk, as some kind of confession?
Who is the dumb ass again?
Ah yes another public school dropout with no reading comprehension. Yes I admit, we let the guy run off the train. Yes I am drunk and yes you are so right in your own mind. Guys like you are whats wrong with this dept.
Read the post again. They ran off the train off the back door. But I guess your super cop, you would have shot out the window, played TJ hooker, done a kung fu move or two. You my friend are a hero to everyone.
Let me guess, you are some hack working in a busy dist who thinks he is the real police and you only do felonies?
Real CCW stops crime.
Join!! he NRA
Contact your state rep and tell them to vote NO on HB1155 sponsored by mike madigan and "crew"
There's only 1 cure for what ails the CTA. The new Det in Area 1 with the business card that says "Transit Robbery Squad". Let me know how you feel when you got 50 jobs in your in box.
Go get em tiger
Read the post again. They ran off the train off the back door. But I guess your super cop, you would have shot out the window, played TJ hooker, done a kung fu move or two. You my friend are a hero to everyone.
Let me guess, you are some hack working in a busy dist who thinks he is the real police and you only do felonies?
2/27/2013 12:08:00 AM
Hit a nerve there Sherlock Holmes (oops, sorry. King!)? Glad it wasn't a friend of mine that got laid out.
[...] Most people don't realize that jail doesn't bother the worst ones very much -- if they even notice at all. It's part of the normal environment. Yell, argue, fight, hair care, eat some kind of mess, TV blasting day and night, eventually pass out for 45 minutes with one leg stickin up in the air, jump up, at it again. [...]
The imprisoned population also loves the free jail sex too.
In the U.K, with MILLIONS of CCTV, crime flourishes.
Hope for Change one of these days.
Hit a nerve there Sherlock Holmes (oops, sorry. King!)? Glad it wasn't a friend of mine that got laid out.
The KING is all shook up. No, never get upset just sad we have idiots like you on the blog. The point to the post was the cameras caught the offenders running out the doors before we got out. But your reading comprehension is off.
I have no qualms of what happened. Just because you can't read and understand, it is fortuitous for you. Ignorance is blind just like the CTA cameras are. Thank you for all the interest while I shake rattle and roll. Graceland is calling the majesty so excuse me for now asshat.
You failed to see the sarcasm in how I stated things also. Go back and get your GED.
You know what stops crime? The absence of shitheads.
The death penalty accomplishes this.
[...] Most people don't realize that jail doesn't bother the worst ones very much -- if they even notice at all. It's part of the normal environment. Yell, argue, fight, hair care, eat some kind of mess, TV blasting day and night, eventually pass out for 45 minutes with one leg stickin up in the air, jump up, at it again. [...]
For most, it's a badge of honor to be imprisoned, especially with the free sex.
[...] I told one young liberal woman she should put her iPhone away while on any public transportation. Her reply was "oh, I see just because there are African Americans around you assume they are going to rob me " then she ended her side of this conversation by calling me a racist. [...]
I tell liberals to visit 63rd & Ashland, Roosevelt & Pulaski, etc. and tell me about the racism they experienced from afar (i.e. Black on Black crime) and up close (i.e. upon them). None of those liberals ever makes (or has made) a trip to such areas.
Millions and I've yet to see an actual crime in progress from any of those cameras. I am convinced they are props and do not operate at all. Former "K-Mart Blue Light Special" lights.
Some guy in Beverly says the city is spying on him with the cameras. Further proof they do not work because the city would never put that much manual labor into anything.
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