Quinn Tells Lisa "Waste Money!"
- Gov. Pat Quinn today called on Atty. Gen. Lisa Madigan to appeal to the U.S. Supreme Court a court order that requires Illinois to approve legislation this spring that would let citizens carry guns in public.
The governor's move ramps up pressure on Madigan, a potential rival to Quinn in the March 2014 Democratic primary campaign, to keep the court fight alive. The Illinois General Assembly is working on fashioning legislation to put a concealed weapons law in place.
At issue is a December decision by the U.S. 7th Circuit Court of Appeals that ruled Illinois’ decades-old ban on allowing citizens to carry concealed weapons is unconstitutional. A three-judge appeals court panel gave Illinois until June 9 — about six months from its December decision — to pass legislation that would give citizens the right to carry guns in public with reasonable restrictions. Madigan lost a request for a review by all judges in the federal appeals court.
But Quinn said Madigan should take the issue further. The governor said the “only hope” Illinois has of keeping its ban on carrying concealed weapons intact is to go to the U.S. Supreme Court. “The attorney general ought to take a look at that, and pursue that, and make sure that this is the law of the land,” Quinn said.
"make sure that this is the law of the land?" Quinn's an idiot, but a dangerous one.
If Lisa doesn't take it to the Supreme Court, Quinn paints her as soft on guns. If she does and loses, she's incompetent. If she defers to the legislature (which appears to be what she's doing at the moment) she's a tool of Daddy (which she is).
Of course, all of this costs money that could be spent on something else, like pensions.
If Lisa doesn't take it to the Supreme Court, Quinn paints her as soft on guns. If she does and loses, she's incompetent. If she defers to the legislature (which appears to be what she's doing at the moment) she's a tool of Daddy (which she is).
Of course, all of this costs money that could be spent on something else, like pensions.
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Potato Head lost his mind.
Hey, Quinn is the laughing stock of Illinois politics and one reason why Illinois is the laughing stock of the country. Why would Quinn stop wasting money now? That's all he knows. Dumb financial decisions and spend until the state dies.
IT'S "FOR THE CHILDREN!"
Little League in Illinois Set to Raffle Off $2,000 AR-15 Rifle Complete With 30 Round Clip for Fundraiser (Video)
Well, if a hog roast isn’t successful, this seems like the next logical step.
The Atwood-Hammond Little League in Illinois is having some hard time. Their equipment is dilapidated and needs to be replaced. Last year’s fundraiser, a hog roast, only netted $10, so this year the organization went to some outside-the-box thinking to raise some money.
After partnering with a local sporting goods store, the league is set to raffle off an AR-15 rifle, which is worth about $2,000, complete with a 30-round magazine, to boot.
The winner of the raffle will have to pass a standard background check before being awarded the gun.
According to one of the c0-owners of the sporting goods store, Charidy Butcher, the raffle has had an unprecedented response, with phone calls placed as early as 4:30 a.m. to get information. Likewise, Butcher would like the public to know that guns are, in fact, safe. “It’s a piece of metal, basically. They’re not gonna do the harm unless you’ve got the person holding them,” said Butcher.
Read more at: http://nesn.com/2013/03/little-league-in-illinois-set-to-raffle-off-2000-ar-15-rifle-for-fundraiser-video/
"Quinn, a Chicago Democrat who favors strict gun control including an assault weapons ban, said violence has been an 'epidemic' in parts of the state and Illinois..."
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/03/13/illinois-concealed-carry-_4_n_2870311.html
Hmmm..."Chicago Democrat".
"...parts of the state and Illinois"?
And because of a few, small parts of the state are inhabited by animals, everyone should suffer and be unable to defend themselves?
Aren't the people in these "parts of the state and Illinois" already violating that law?
This man is an imbecile.
rb
If Lisa doesn't take it to the Supreme Court, Quinn paints her as soft on guns. If she does and loses, she's incompetent. If she defers to the legislature (which appears to be what she's doing at the moment) she's a tool of Daddy (which she is).
She's the first two, also.
Rep Sacia pulled a Charleston Heston on the #Illinois House floor today. "Just try to take these weapons from my people."
Illinois $500 mil. bond sale that was canc. resurfaces as an $800 mil. sale.
We still have plenty of money to throw away on legal fees to enhance some peoples personal agendas. Money to piss away on Parks and Bike paths too.
Those don't seem like actions a responsible person should take if they are having money troubles.. They are about to charge $800 mil more on the taxpayers credit cards and hand us all the bill.
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UPDATE 2-Illinois faces investor scrutiny for $800 mln bond sale
Wed Mar 13, 2013 11:05pm IST
(Reuters) - Illinois will sell $800 million of debt next month in the U.S. municipal bond market, where investors will likely continue to demand hefty yields for the state's debt amid an unresolved public pension crisis.
The new deal surfaced on Tuesday, a day after Illinois settled federal civil securities fraud charges that it allegedly misled municipal bond investors about the underfunding of its pension system.
"The unfunded pension liability will continue to put budget pressure, rating pressure and yield pressure on the state until they come up with some sort of solution," Paul Brennan, a senior portfolio manager at Nuveen Investments, said on Wednesday.
The state released a preliminary official statement late on Tuesday setting competitive bidding for $450 million of tax-exempt and $350 million of taxable general obligation bonds on April 2.
The sale marks the first for Illinois since it postponed a $500 million bond deal just days after Standard & Poor's Ratings Services dropped its credit rating a notch on Jan. 25 to A-minus with a negative outlook, the lowest rating of all the states.
Illinois' pensions, the worst-funded among states, have been a crushing credit concern for the state, which is struggling to rein in burgeoning retirement costs that threaten funding for core services such as education, health care and public safety.
As a result, credit rating agencies have been hammering the state's ratings lower and bond investors have been demanding higher yields to take on the risk.
http://in.reuters.com/article/2013/03/13/illinois-bonds-idINL1N0C58C620130313
Interesting...
FEMA Exercise Puts Northfield Township First Responders to the Test
The Northfield Township Road District brought together first responders from the villages of Northbrook, Northfield and Glenview, along with the Cook County Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management, to participate jointly in a Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA) Virtual Tabletop Exercise.
The exercise was hosted by Allstate Insurance Company as part of its ongoing efforts to establish and strengthen collaborative public-private partnerships in disaster response and recovery.
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The table top exercise focused on a weather disaster, the scenario being that a tornado struck portions of Northfield Township, Glenview, Northfield and Northbrook. Teams were charged with initiating their responses to injuries, power outages, damaged homes and businesses, blocked streets, and media inquiries, all while coordinating their efforts with other agencies and non-governmental bodies like the American Red Cross.
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Cook County Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management Executive Director Michael Masters said, "Under the leadership of President Toni Preckwinkle, Cook County is working to ensure that we are prepared for all incidents, whether man-made or natural. Failing to prepare is preparing to fail. Events such as this – which bring together stakeholders from the public and private sectors, at all levels – place us in a better position to ensure that we do not fail. We commend this effort, and appreciate the opportunity to participate."
The exercise was just one step in an ongoing process for Northfield Township's jurisdictions to work collectively together to raise the area's level of preparedness and improve its capabilities to respond and recover from a local or regional catastrophic event.
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A tornado eh? Yeah. Right. Because DHS has always been called out for tornado's here and then Allstate???
Potatohead and daddy madigan and tiny are getting desperate. They are on the ropes and know it. They are asking the same judges that went against them in the first place. If something doesn't pass it goes constitutional carry june 9th and they have NO control over that. As a state trooper said " it's a done deal"
“The attorney general ought to take a look at that, and pursue that, and make sure that this is the law of the land,” Quinn said.
Ahemm... Excuse me Mr. Quinn.
There is a law of the land, it is called the United States Constitution. You should try reading it sometime. It has a little thing in it known as the SECOND AMENDMENT.
Which has nothing to do with hunting and has to do with personal defense... and not just with defense against muggers and rapists.... (pay this video)
http://www.youtube.com/watch_popup?v=0sujnvIV4g4
Maybe if Lisa had a brain she would announce she is ending the waste of money. The 2nd amendment challenge will stop and the good people of Illinois will be allowed to legally carry per the Constitution. She will be elected if she does that. Quinn is possibly as lame as Rahm and Obama.
Only in the dumbest, most bankrupt and corrupt state in the union could this conversation even take place.
Fight a constitutional right? Who the fuck are these people? Why are they not tarred and feathered?
Sen. Manar: Don't believe the rhetoric; Illinois is adding people
[...]..You don’t have to take my word for it. Thankfully, we have an entity in America that exists solely to count people — the U.S. Census Bureau. When the Census Bureau released its official tally of Illinois’ population for 2010, our state had 12,830,632 residents. That is an increase of 411,000 from 2000. For perspective, that’s the equivalent of adding a city the size of Atlanta, Ga., to Illinois.
Really senator?
Why isn't Illinois workforce of Non Farm payroll jobs growing?
US Census Illinois Private non-farm employment, percent change, 2000-2010 -9.41%
So Illinois has a population increase of 3.3% over 2000-2010 and the number of people working and growing(ha-ha) the economy is down -9.41% in Illinois
Well it's either a mini baby boom and we'll have to wait 18~21 years for them to show up in the workforce OR 411,000 more people like retirees or others on food stamps and welfare moved here.
It get's better.
Where's the growth within the State?
Is Cook County growing?
Cook county's population dropped 182,006 from 2000 - 2010 for a loss of -3.4%
Nope! No growth there. Maybe Chicago is growing. Surely the financial powerhouse of the state is growing right?
Chicago's population went from 2,896,016 to 2,695,598 a lost of –200,418 or –6.9%
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So my friends to conclude the don't believe the rhetoric hype.
It's true that Illinois gained over 411,000 people about the size of the city of Atlanta Ga. from 2000-2010 so the senator is right.
It's also true that Chicago lost -200,428 people about half the size of Atlanta Ga.
The increase in population is not showing up in the private labor reports. Chicago had more people working 13~14 years ago then it does today IN SPITE OF ALL THE JOB GROWTH RHETORIC.
Chicago is loosing people. Cook County is loosing people. The road map that the mayor, city council, and cook county has us on is one that leads us to a city like Detroit.
Oh yeah, and for perspective the USA population growth rate overall was 9.7% -- 2000-2010. 3.3% Illinois growth rate is pitiful and the job performance is even worse.
Lawmakers add strings to conceal carry bill
"If Lisa doesn't take it to the Supreme Court, Quinn paints her as soft on guns. If she does and loses, she's incompetent. If she defers to the legislature (which appears to be what she's doing at the moment) she's a tool of Daddy (which she is)."
governor spudnutz, a gift that keeps on giving.
Chalkie
Please repost a copy of the check the City had to write for unconstitutional gun litigation. The check photo makes an effective and sad visual of wasted taxdollars.
Sadly, these hard costs don't even begin to capture the wasted soft costs such as lobbyists, consultants, reports, salaries, etc., in drafting and implementing unconstitutional laws.
More of these wasted taxdollars in the form of hard costs are to come if illegal changes are made to modest middle class Pension Plans. The wasted soft costs pursuing clearly illegal Pension proposals are already off the charts.
All of which could have gone to helping properly fund the governments inadequate share of contributions.
Shades of Daley FUK Stop the BS All these IL DEM Pols has massive security and protection No Wonder We are Broke!
The Supreme Court Has Spoken Now We will Appeal for Millions more For What? No Wonder the State of IL has no money
Quin is an idiot. The only reason why he's governor is because he promised free stuff to rif raff and bleeding heart liberals who coddle the rif raff.
A fight they will never win!! The supreme court will never ever allow Illinois to be the sole state without concealed carry.. That would mean all 49 other states would have to convert to the same... No way will happen...
Chicago's mayor and alderpeople also waste tons of money on silly anti-gun ordinances that Thug refuses to follow.
Didn't the US Supreme Court hand down some recent rulings that already went against Illinois, Chicago, Oak Park etc?
Hasn't the law of the land already been established?
Isn't the law in 49 of 50 states enough of a precedent?
Don't we all know already how stupid our elected leaders are?
How much more of our tax money do these idiots have to waste before we catch on and stop electing them?
By time they get done with a concealed carry law there will be one small area in far southern Illinois in the middle of a grove of trees where it will be legal to carry concealed. For one hour each day. On alternate Wednesdays depending on the number of your date of birth.
God forbid pensions get funded or police officers get hired or prison space be made available for true criminals.
No, better to fuck with law abiding citizens (known normally as victims) for an interminable period of time, lest they lose the vote of one loudmouth liberal gun hating scum.
This is what happens when you grow up as a liberal democrat and become cowardized.
Has anyone figured a way to get quinn tested for drugs ? He has to be on something !
Lisa's response to Quinn should be-"You worry about the fiscal hole Illinois is in, and I'll worry about the laws".
It's all Kabuki theater with daddy pulling her strings.
See the PETITION FOR A WRIT OF CERTIORARI in Kachalsky, et al. v. Cacace, et al.
(2nd Circuit).
CLICK ON SCOTUS CERTIORARI
ITS OPM....other peoples money...
Your take is spot on. Since it's likely she'll be running against him in the next primary, why not press her to go on a fool's errand?
Illustrating Chicago's Murders, Homicides, Violence and Idiocy at heyjackass.com
The legislature takes on more pressing issues, like banning lion meat, here.
Deny people a given right that 49 other states give their's, and claim they still need to figure that it's the law of the land.
Are there any sane Democrats?
gun control works.....
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SFaLokC9hqk
Quinn should be the poster child for liberal insanity.
Lay off Lisa. She's the best. Sure I testified in court many more times then she has, but she's the best. Our next Gov if daddy sez so.
Civilian here.
Word out of Springfield is that Daddy Madigan will do nothing to assist Gov. Quinn. So do not expect to see any action on pensions, debt rduction, etc. until Lisa is governor.
The anti-gun politicians don't want this to go to the Supreme Court because it will potentially, make that...in all likelyhood, strike down New York's gun laws and all the other infringement legislation around the country. As Harold Washington described him, Quinn is truly 'the most undisciplined man I ever met!'
Potatohead continues to amaze. If he was any dumber, he'd be hooked to a life-support system:
"Quinn, a Chicago Democrat who favors strict gun control... ...and Illinois should be the nation's leader in keeping the concealed carry ban in place."
Uh, Pat? Stop listening the voices in your head. Since IL already is the only state in the union with an absolute prohibition, you can stand down. We've "made" it - at least until June you freakin' moron! (with apologies in advance to any morons who happen to read SSC. Uh, that would be you Garry
Why guns?
Pew survey shows big shift since 1999 as to the reasons people want guns.
Reason being self-protection now nearly 50%. Close to double the number who gave that reason in 1999.
http://www.people-press.org/2013/03/12/why-own-a-gun-protection-is-now-top-reason/
Anonymous @ 3/14/2013 12:32:00 AM said
"Rep Sacia pulled a Charleston Heston on the #Illinois House floor today. "Just try to take these weapons from my people.""
Not surprising. Jim Sacia is a retired Fed, but he's no Jody Weiss. His head is - and always has been - screwed on straight. If we had more like him in the legislature, we'd have a helluva lot better state.
Lisa's office should be very busy investigation the securities fraud involving the State of Illinois. With her aggressive stance against public / political corruption where would she get the time for a fruitless appeal.
This is just like Shortshanks throwing good money after bad for his " cause" .... even though the courts have made it crystal clear they won't win.
But they're looking out for the taxpayers and that's why they want pension reform right? Two faced , double talking, scumbag politicians!
please call your senators and ask them to vote no on the dianne feinstein firearms ban it passed the judical and no is breing called for a vote
2:18 AM
Since the 1950 decennial U.S. Census, the City of Chicago has lost a MILLION residents.
At that time, Chicago was the 2nd largest city in the nation (now #3). It's less than a third the size of New York City and about the same population of just the Borough of Brooklyn.
Compare the disintegration of Detroit with Chicago. It's only a matter of time.
Considering his record, Quinn would be best advised to STFU. Better yet, resign.
ITS OPM....other peoples money...
3/14/2013 08:26:00 AM
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Yeah; yours and mine.
http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2013/03/14/17312762-youth-baseball-league-raffles-off-ar-15-to-raise-money-gets-tremendous-response?lite=
Let Lisa come down and stop the raffle.
who damaged miegs field to build a park , where's that investigation?
"make sure that this is the law of the land?" Quinn's an idiot, but a dangerous one.
While Quinn may very well be an idiot, his calling on Lil Lisa to appeal this case to SCOTUS may actually be a very smart move politically.
If Lisa doesn't take it to the Supreme Court, Quinn paints her as soft on guns. If she does and loses, she's incompetent. If she defers to the legislature (which appears to be what she's doing at the moment) she's a tool of Daddy (which she is).
Of course, all of this costs money that could be spent on something else, like pensions.
By fronting the issue, he forces his most likely rival for re-election into the position of having to do something on a total loser issue. No matter what she does on this issue, it is bad for her.
And if she appeals to SCOTUS and the decision is affirmed and becomes the law of the land, then New York's strangling gun laws are in jeopardy (Take that, Bloomberg!!) That is why the anti-gunners do not want this case appealed.
While Quinn just has to sit back wait for the Legislature to come up with a law.
"Word out of Springfield is that Daddy Madigan will do nothing to assist Gov. Quinn. So do not expect to see any action on pensions, debt rduction, etc. until Lisa is governor."
excellent observation.....with Pops Madigan maneuvering so that daughter can be the next Gov....does Potatohead feel the knives in his back?
All these liberal knuckleheads are pathetic. IL, Crook Cty and Chi town are lost. Anyone with a brain get out of Dodge and move to Texas or Arizona before your State declares bankruptcy.
MS
Anonymous said...
If Lisa doesn't take it to the Supreme Court, Quinn paints her as soft on guns. If she does and loses, she's incompetent. If she defers to the legislature (which appears to be what she's doing at the moment) she's a tool of Daddy (which she is).
She's the first two, also.
3/14/2013 12:31:00 AM
Exactly. Quinn (or his advisors) aren't as dumb as everyone thinks. Madigan wants his daughter to be governor. This throws a politically sensitive hand grenade right into her house.
Dem Rep. Jan Schakowsky: Assault Weapons Ban "Just The Beginning"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BVz2lHODQvs&feature=player_embedded
Rep Sacia pulled a Charleston Heston on the #Illinois House floor today. "Just try to take these weapons from my people."
Sacia is former FBI & pro-gun, pro-police.
He represents the "real" Illinoisans interests, not the small minority of those killing each other and those fretting over it.
who damaged miegs field to build a park , where's that investigation?
Already done. FAA said that was a no-no and fined Daley (er, YOU AND I) several thousand dollars.
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Cook County Department of Homeland Security and Emergency Management Executive Director Michael Masters said, "Under the leadership of President Toni Preckwinkle, Cook County is working to ensure that we are prepared for all incidents, whether man-made or natural. Failing to prepare is preparing to fail. Events such as this – which bring together stakeholders from the public and private sectors, at all levels – place us in a better position to ensure that we do not fail. We commend this effort, and appreciate the opportunity to participate."
The exercise was just one step in an ongoing process for Northfield Township's jurisdictions to work collectively together to raise the area's level of preparedness and improve its capabilities to respond and recover from a local or regional catastrophic event.
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Rehearsal for the gun confiscations and the unrest it WILL cause.
well since Quinn only won by a fluke(?) some so called precincts didn't report their count on GOVERNOR till late (gee wonder how many dead people and illegals voted there).. my guess is the next Governor will be a REPUBLICAN.. also the fact that bearing a weapon does NOT mean at home but on the person and it does NOT mean any particular part of the body so someone carrying it in a waist band is BEARING a weapon that is concealed thus within their rights.. Quinn is as dumb as a box of rocks and SO IS LISA.. working on paying our house off and getting OUT of here let the PROGRESSIVES get their tax dollars from the gang bangers..lol.
Quinn is one of the most retarted governors in the Nation. One look at this guy tells the whole story. He was always a nobody until liberals got their chance to put him in the states highest position so they could have their yes man .Now thanks to those idiots he is showing how moronic he really is.Even mayor Washington knew he was a puss head.
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