Rahm Says "Nyah Nyah Nyah."
- Saying "being honest is never a failure," Mayor Rahm Emanuel stood by the pension deal rejected by Chicago police sergeants and said inevitable reforms passed in Springfield will share many of the same earmarks.
Not to put to fine a point on it, but what does Rahm know about being honest? He made his millions in crooked deals and shady contracts for what was essentially a no-show job.
- Emanuel called the deal's opponents those who "have decided denial is a long-term strategy. That doesn't work."
He promised to "bring honesty to a system that doesn't have it today."
The rejected deal would have raised the retirement age, frozen cost-of-living increases every other year and called on retirees to pay more of their health insurance.
Emanuel said "every aspect of this agreement" will inevitably be part of pension reform in the General Assembly.
"Hoping otherwise is not a strategy," he added.
It may be part of some "agreement" at a later date, but not during contract negotiations. Pension matters are State Law, not collective bargaining. We're all pretty sure Rahm isn't planning on being around in two years.
And the majority of sergeants realized that while change may be on the horizon, they don't have to provide 9.5 with the rope and tree from which he'll try to hang them.
And the majority of sergeants realized that while change may be on the horizon, they don't have to provide 9.5 with the rope and tree from which he'll try to hang them.
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posted by SCC at 12:07 AM
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Boys and girls please sit on your hands when at work. We show Rham our strength by being united. Spring is weeks away and the gangs will be itching. No proactive policing!!!!!!!
How about a nice honest post on the FOP fucking up our contract negotiations? Since Mikey has been yelling at the top of his baby lungs for the last year that the letter never needed to be submitted how come he had the FOP submit the letter this year during the correct time frame? Why not submit it using the same time frame as you did last year if you did nothing wrong?
Everyone needs to realize that the FOP will be negotiating our new contract that will have an effective date of 1 JULY 2013 not 2012. You have just worked the last year with no chance of retro.
Now even if they FOP says they filed it correctly, which they did not and the City is negotiating that way, they are going to cost US a boat load of money filling lawsuits against the City fighting this specific topic.
People need to realize the failed experiment that Sheilds is and move on during the next elections. No matter what the outcome of the contract, the amount it is costing the FOP and the distractions his administration has had on the membership is horrible.
I do not give a flying fuck about his security side business, or his brothers security side business, or his dads, etc. The simple fact is those distractions are fucking up all of our livelihoods by the connections the media is making them to be. Whether that is right or wrong does not matter, its the perception of them and the effect it is having on the membership.
Once again the politicians that caused the pension problem in the first place are now trying to blame police offices that had nothing to do with the problem. Police officers put into the pension every two weeks and that's the last they see of their money. Police officers have NO SAY what so ever or anything to do with what happens to the pension. People need to know the truth about what the politicians did to the pension.
With the reputation chicago, Illinois politicians have it should be an easy one to understand when it comes to the truth about what happened to the pension. Lying corrupt politicians think they can fool everyone.
FOP just send blast email:
City is no longer in Negotiations with the FOP.
City is citing the letter Mikey forgot to send to the city last year.
We are in for the fight of our lives folks.
http://www.suntimes.com/18812740-761/emanuel-delivers-payback-to-police-union-chief-over-scuttled-contract.html
RAM is trying to ram Mike Sheilds. And his paid bitches are all over the comments.
The word 'honest' isn't in Rahm's dictionary. His whole career has been back room deals and underhanded tactics. Exactly how did he make his millions? Somebody find the Chicago Tonight episode where he is asked that question during the mayoral election and please post it. Nothing but evasion and double talk. Our pension fund has been around since the late 1800's, but Rahm wishes he could click his tiny heels three time and make it disappear, forgetting his Uncle Les is a retired policeman. I have never been more proud to be a Chicago Cop, than when I saw the results of the Sergeant's contract vote. As a retired Sergeant, I was embarrassed that over 100 sergeants voted for that terrible contract, putting their own selfish interests over the good of the whole, but we have always been our own worst enemies. I implore all current and retired sergeants......please join the FOP today. It is clear that the sergeant's union does not have our interests at heart. Please believe me when I tell you that retired sergeants knew nothing of Ade and company's dirty dealings with Rahm. The first I knew of their plans was when I received a letter shortly before the annual retirement dinner asking us to behave and not make a fuss at the dinner regarding the proposed contract. Remember that retired guys could not vote on the contract, but we were going to be harmed by the provisions of it. Fair, huh? Until the current board can be replaced, (they should do the right thing and resign) we can all be united at the FOP. The lieutenants and captains should join us too at the FOP. Then, as a unified group, we need to begin picketing City Hall, and march up to the 5th floor. Hiring a good pr firm would help us to get our message out. Rahm doesn't care about us, that is clear. He has promised to ram 'reform' down our throats regardless of the fairness of the outcome. How he calls himself a 'democrat', when he is so clearly anti-union, is beyond me. I hope the National Democratic Party is closely watching what is going on here, and never slates him for any national office, forcing him to become the republican he, and all his fat-cat friends actually are. We are under attack. Get off your ass and get energized. This is going to be a long, hard battle.
Contact your ward and ask for their help. We vote. AND pay taxes!
Mary O'Connor
http://www.ward41.com/?page_id=36
John Arena
http://ward45.org/
Cullerton
http://www.ward38.com/
Sposato
http://36ward.com/
Zalewski
http://www.chicago23ward.com/
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If you need a good laugh..sit back, open a beer and ask yourself...
What fuckin bar exam did he take?
I have heard more articulated and structured dialogue come from victims that just sustained gunshot wounds to the head than from this mumbling chicken hawk.
http://www.bloomberg.com/video/gun-issues-require-civil-discourse-daley-says-cxA6mRk1QIG4aID~vv990w.html
A senior fellow at the University of Chicago with a five year contract.....Wow ! He done better than michelle.
And yet he will still collect multiple pensions
Ha ha again. Dum dum Shields kept denying it but its true. He did not file the paperwork on time so therefore no retro for the first year. So to all of his jockers that denied it and blamed Bella or the Citywide team for spreading rumors you were wrong.
CHICAGO, March 11 | Mon Mar 11, 2013 5:27pm EDT
(Reuters) - Illinois, which postponed a $500 million bond sale in January, is planning to announce a new bonds sale as soon as this week, a state official said on Monday.
The preliminary official statement for the deal will be published this week for a sale at the beginning of April, said a state official who asked not to be identified.
At the end of February John Sinsheimer, the state's capital markets director, had said Illinois was planning to go ahead as soon as late March, after the presentation of the new budget, with a competitive sale of the general obligation bonds
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Well this will be interesting. What interest rate will the investors demand?
If the stock market is going to sell off it will make bonds more attractive to investors. They look for safety. They will be willing to take a lower offer on the interest rates the bonds pay.
So if someone is in a position to manipulate markets maybe we'll see the market sell off just before the Illinois bond sale goes off eh?
Stock options expire on the third Friday of every month I believe, and the Thursday before expiration is usually active trading. So we're looking at expiration on the 15, two days from now.
The end of the month is also the end of the quarter and many investment funds make changes in their trading philosophy too.
Toss in the sequester scare stuff and the market can be manipulated down so that Illinois can get a good deal on their bond sales.
It's all speculation on my part. A wild guess. We'll just have to wait and see what happens.
Rham is a creep. too bad he has the backing of.......u know who.
Recent studies have shown that the most effective way to get a public official voted out of office is by using face to face contact with the voters -- to ask for their votes.
I'm just sayin'
When's the march or marches (plural)? Lets have 1 a week, everyweek. why not. Bring attention to the crazy manpower shortage, the faulty judicial system, the out of control black violent crime, how our mayor treats us worse than dog shit on the bottom of your shoe.
not just change on the horizon SCC but HOPE as well. Its all hope & change..rainbows and unicorns
Officers did their part now its time for the City to do theirs.
They confronted dangerous risks around the clock in unfavorable conditions for modest pay for decades and they EARNED their modest pensions. They were not gifts given.
The City doesn't want to earmark the funds to pay for what they've already received. The law requires it, the City will try and change the law. The fight is on.
Other Cities do it. NYC and LA don't have the same funding problem and their benefits are much higher.
Fairness and common decency requires officers fight back and not give their earnings away to the fat cats at the Civic Federation or 30 somethings at the Merc in the form of TIF grants and tax breaks.
Does anybody know if FTO Test results are in
Thanks Mike, you're time as FOP president will never be forgotten.
http://www.suntimes.com/mobile/18812740-463/emanuel-delivers-payback-to-police-union-chief-over-scuttled-contract.html
Of course he's gonna talk and act tough what did you expect him to say?
He's still got a contract to write and doing anything that makes him look weak sets him up for complete failure.
Could you imagine trying to do a deal from the fetal position saying I'm sorry, I'm sorry I didn't realize so many of you felt this way? That would be like I'll do anything you want.
Naw man. He can put on that front but he's got some real issues to deal with I think. So does the Gov. We're talking about them breaking the social contract with the people. Messing with peoples retirement financial lively-hood are you kidding me?!
Rahm never let's the facts get in the way of his position.
He's all concerned with what's fair to the "taxpayers".
Well all of the employees covered by these pension funds are taxpayers too and it certainly wasn't fair to them when the city took a pension holiday for the last 25 years.
Now the chickens are coming home to roost and the politicians, the very scumbags who created this mess, are now all concerned about raising property taxes on the taxpayers to make up for the city's neglect of the pension funds.
Hey Rahm and your minions: GFY!
HONESTY?!!!! I was promised a pension when I signed on for this job. I have moved dead bodies, comforted loved ones, found lost children and old folks,been shot at, stabbed at and put in the emergency room six times.
I have taken years off the lives of my loved ones. I have missed birthdays, graduations and mised time with my parents when they were on their death beds. I have worked more holidays than been home.
Now that I am in my last few years Rahm wants to tell me the pension I was gauranteed isn't available to me while the City spends 55 million dollars to honor the wife of the biggest thief this City has known.
Now talk to me about honesty little man.
If we stuck together we could make that little 9.5 beg for mercy. But we dont stick together so I will accept whatever the topyid gives us and know that in a few short years I can leave this fucking shithole.
"Whether that is right or wrong does not matter, its the perception of them and the effect it is having on the membership."
Really???? That is so typical. Ignorance with a keyboard. Shields is leading the charge on the pension battlefield and idiots like this are trying to bring him down. You're creating the "perception" your nitwit.
Stop whining about the stupid letter. Whether it was a mistake or a tactic really doesn't matter. Ram is using it as a smoke screen. The reality is that Shields sent the letter last year within the state law's guidelines. Ram can use his contacts over at the SunTimes all he wants. His PR on this is dead wrong howwever.
"We are in for the fight of our lives folks."
Yeah, but not over retro pay; over our pensions--which so far reads like this: FOP 1, everybody 0. Wake up people.
Anybody else think that some, if not all, of these posts over this letter are from a certain disgruntled FOP hanger on, maybe one who passed the bar exam? Or maybe some are being done by Rahm's people? Whoever is posting that should know better. They should be ashamed of themselves. This is about our pensions folks. Look up the ILRB. Mike sent the letter within the state law allotted time. Shut up and join the real fight.
Typical. City is trying to screw us. Thanks for nothing rank and file. If you put your life on the line enough nights in a row, guess you won't need a pension. Thanks Rahm.
This is all PR BS 101. The City told the FOP that regardless of the whether it could or could not pursue this letter crap, it WOULD NOT. It told the FOP it respected the rank and file and would negotiate in good faith. Now, Shields puts a beat down on Rahm and keeps our pensions on life support and the City back tracks. This letter flap doesn't matter. What matters is that our Mayor is gonna try to screw us AT ALL COSTS.
How about Tiny dancer being honest about how every single police officer made their contributions to the pension while the city ignored theirs for years?
How bout that Mr. Tutu?
F Rahm because he is trying to F us!
STOP WORKING VRI!!!
Rahm will be more them willing to give us what we want when the city becomes a killing field that makes Iraq and Afghanistan look like a peaceful neighborhood.
....so therefore no retro for the first year. So to all of his jockers that denied it and blamed Bella or the Citywide team for spreading rumors you were wrong.
3/13/2013 01:13:00 AM
2013 is the 'first year'.
2012 was an additional year, extended per the terms of the then contract.
yeah, no 'retro', because no newly negotiated contract for 2012.
keep crying over spilled milk and see how well the short bus mayor does in the upcoming negotiations.
any surprises here? probably not; Rahm is who he is, a guy with no heart, soul or character, one who exhibits all the qualities of arrogance and condescension. If he wanted to be a leader loved by the people, one who receives 101% of the vote in an election (like Obama in some voting precincts), he should try Iran, Venezuela, or North Korea; with his personality, he would give Ahmedinejad (Iran), Chavez (Venezuela; there's an opening there), or Kim Jong Eun (North Korea) a real run for their money....
Boys and girls please sit on your hands when at work. We show Rham our strength by being united. Spring is weeks away and the gangs will be itching. No proactive policing!!!!!!!
The problem is all you suck asses on the fucked up job will not do that (above). You are too worried about your damn VRI or working the roadside DUIs or task force. Or you are worried about getting dumped off of your coveted beat or being split from partners. I saw the writing on the wall 12 years ago and would see coppers get suspended and have to take out loans and panic and have to start saving over a 30 day suspension. Well kids I bet them at their own game. I started my own business not related to LEO work and have been at for 11 years now. Got a beach house in Costa Rica and got suspended for 30 days a few years ago. Guess what happened? When my suspension came I was at the peak of my business season and I went on to make more money when I was off and visited my beach house during that 30 days off (more just out of spite). I have 18 years on and am leaving in two more. Fuck you R.E. LOL as I am sitting pool side in my shorts right now. Suspend me, LOL. I really am LOL right now too. My advice to all coppers on this job. Plan. Plan. Plan. You do not have to put all your eggs in one basket. Start a biz. I did and people told me I couldn't do it. Well I did not buy my beach house with CPD money.
Now is a time we ALL must stick together! This Rahm will say and do anything to DISCREDIT the FOP and any other union and their members.
The Sergeants astounding NO vote sent a clear message and Shields was just doing his job as FOP president seeing and helping to torpedo a bad proposal shot down.
Rahm you have just been BITCHED slapped!
If "pension matters are state law" : then how did the FOP have the power ( right) to forgive the city a 20 million contribution to the pension in an earlier negotiation?
Even if the legislators were to give Rahm everything he wants, it still has to pass constitutional muster through the courts. Rahm is hated downstate even more than Daley was. He will get very little of what he wants. If he could steal our oensions, he already would have. It's not that easy to do.
I strongly dislike Rham and the entire political machine that is Shitcago, however I am sick of all the insinuations and bs posts that I see. If you truly "KNOW" of some of Rham's corruption, then how about doing something about it?
There's a reply to this notice that might get the mayor's attention. FOP and the Sgt's and Lt's PBPA's declare 1 Jul NO special day. This goes for everything especially CTA which no one should be doing for straight time anyhow if that's still the case, I've not looked at special in quite a few years because I believe it undermines our manpower issues. The collective bargaining units cannot call for any type of job action but these are all Voluntary wotk opportunities, outside of work and not in the contract. Any scab that decides they can't miss ONE day of special gets to become a fair share member, period.
Better yet since 1 Jul is a Monday let's make it 29 Jun.
This would show solidarity, highlight manpower needs, and show how much we normally do when the shit hits the fan on Michigan Ave and high profile areas with no police protection.
Start talking it up now so no one can claim they didn't know and can make plans that unless they're RDO they'll be working that night because there will be no elective time off. Hell even send a letter to the ballerina, McStat and news outlets to let them know so they can't spin it as a surprise.
http://www.ipsn.org/santos1.html
Mariam Santos was calling out the Daley Administration back in 1997 about penssions.
honestly the city will run perfect with 30 less alderman .
I’m a unit rep by default - I ran unopposed three times in a row. But I do go to meetings. I did not vote for Mikey. This “letter” should have gone in when Mickey was elected. But it wasn’t sent. I blame first our full-time lawyer and then our holdovers from the last ticket plus two slugs Mikey brought upstairs to work for him.
Rahm may have just did us a favor by doing this just a couple of days after the Sgt’s sellout proposal was voted down. The arbitrator was always going to get this. The city has had contract talks for a year with us. I would rather lose at arbitration than give Rahm anything.
The union can not call for a job action. But I think since our own leader wants to do the broken window shit Again we should follow his lead. We should all spend the entire tour of duty in the station processing all the little shit we look the other way on because we are staying up for the in progress calls. Of course that would cause a no cars available situation. That might get someone’s attention. No Cars Available Fridays sounds good to me starting 22 Mar13. Then on Saturdays and the Sundays. Jobs will just stack up and up. But you have to do it right. We can bring this city to it’s knees if we all do our jobs legit. No sandbagging.
Anonymous said...
HONESTY?!!!! I was promised a pension when I signed on for this job. I have moved dead bodies, comforted loved ones, found lost children and old folks,been shot at, stabbed at and put in the emergency room six times.
I have taken years off the lives of my loved ones. I have missed birthdays, graduations and mised time with my parents when they were on their death beds. I have worked more holidays than been home.
Now that I am in my last few years Rahm wants to tell me the pension I was gauranteed isn't available to me while the City spends 55 million dollars to honor the wife of the biggest thief this City has known.
Now talk to me about honesty little man.
3/13/2013 05:28:00 AM
You office with this post have nailed it! We missed a lot over the years,and been in worst case senerios many times , now though with the sergeants vote we are united, and the time to stop the nonsense about what mike shields did or didn't do with the letter is over with,the city wants us to divide and conquer that is and always has been rahms strategy,sorry this 28 year vet will stay united, divided we fall united we stand!
HONESTY?!!!! I was promised a pension when I signed on for this job. I have moved dead bodies, comforted loved ones, found lost children and old folks,been shot at, stabbed at and put in the emergency room six times.
I have taken years off the lives of my loved ones. I have missed birthdays, graduations and mised time with my parents when they were on their death beds. I have worked more holidays than been home.
Now that I am in my last few years Rahm wants to tell me the pension I was guaranteed isn't available to me while the City spends 55 million dollars to honor the wife of the biggest thief this City has known.
Now talk to me about honesty little man.
Of course the Nay sayers will say "That's your job though." Well it's true but these are our pension benefits.
How is this for honesty: The previous mayor and his willing allies in Springfield all stole the money from your pension. They used the money for programs that bought them votes and got them re-elected again and again because they told the voters the programs did not cost anything. I/we (Rahm/Madigan and company) want to keep the party going so we are going to steal more money from your pensions. If you complain I will bleat about how you guys are cheating the taxpayers. If you told that story Rahm then you could talk about pensions and honesty.
Anonymous said...FOP just send blast email: City is no longer in Negotiations with the FOP.City is citing the letter Mikey forgot to send to the city last year.We are in for the fight of our lives folks.3/13/2013 12:39:00 AM
Oh grow up panic peddler. Your pathetic panic cries because you're getting the exact same contract benefits for another year make you and anyone else who cries because you won't get a petty fucking 0 or 1 percent retro make you look like a child.
The only thing that matters is the bargaining position we will be in in another year down the road. This means every other city contract will have been negotiated by then. The teachers started a baseline. They'll have to put off a casino for yet another year which already makes them look like they're trying to hide more revenue from paying off debts.
The city and state want to try and take advantage of their self created deficits to use as panic food. They just put themselves in a shit position that will expose their financial abuse for even longer.
And we have more time to help expose their bullshit as well.
So u can quit crying that u won't get a thousand dollar retro, time works in OUR favor not theirs.
Anonymous said...FOP just send blast email: City is no longer in Negotiations with the FOP.City is citing the letter Mikey forgot to send to the city last year.We are in for the fight of our lives folks.3/13/2013 12:39:00 AM
Oh grow up panic peddler. Your pathetic panic cries because you're getting the exact same contract benefits for another year make you and anyone else who cries because you won't get a petty fucking 0 or 1 percent retro make you look like a child.
The only thing that matters is the bargaining position we will be in in another year down the road. This means every other city contract will have been negotiated by then. The teachers started a baseline. They'll have to put off a casino for yet another year which already makes them look like they're trying to hide more revenue from paying off debts.
The city and state want to try and take advantage of their self created deficits to use as panic food. They just put themselves in a shit position that will expose their financial abuse for even longer.
And we have more time to help expose their bullshit as well.
So u can quit crying that u won't get a thousand dollar retro, time works in OUR favor not theirs.
Rham is on the front cover of this month's issue of Chicago Magazine. There is an in depth article about City Hall and his 50 yes men. It is amazing to me the power and impact that one mayor can have on a City.
I hope the National Democratic Party is closely watching what is going on here, and never slates him for any national office, forcing him to become the republican he, and all his fat-cat friends actually are. We are under attack. Get off your ass and get energized. This is going to be a long, hard battle.
3/13/2013 12:52:00 AM
"Republican he is?" Are you that freaking, ridiculously stupid? He is a liberal democrat through and through...he hates cops and hates workers and hates the middle class white male. This is exactly who liberal Democrats are you idiot machine tool. Look at Wisconsin, reformed pensions and EXEMPTED public safety, recognized the pension burden is out of control, but public safety and the military are the unique entities they are and they need the pensions as they are, not DMV clerks and carpenters. But no, brilliant machine asswipes like you know better. YOU built this shit system, you democrat POS. YOU are the one driving this Obamarx fouled, Bill Ayers directed destruction of the USA. Maggie Daley park, basketball leagues for gangsters instead of pension obligations for public safety, Vanecko and Sons Sewer and Polical Consultant LLC., all this shit is because of your stupid party loyalty dumbass. Open your eyes, the democrats are now National Socialist Fascists, get a freaking clue. Ballerina a Republican, sheesh. Ignorance like this, no wonder the CPD is taking it up the keister on a regular basis.
Boys and girls please sit on your hands when at work. We show Rham our strength by being united. Spring is weeks away and the gangs will be itching. No proactive policing!!!!!!!
3/13/2013 12:25:00 AM
Maybe put away the $$$ signs for one day. Pick a day, any day, spread the word amongst yourselves. Nobody sign up for VRI just one day.
Dear Rahm, I want my cuff links back. I hate you.
Mikey
This is why the city is falling apart . City hall has made enemies with the police. We are now a reactive force no longer proactive. And this is why the city is falling apart. No retro. Big Deal. He can keep my 1%. I keep working special VRI. No ot. Im not giving them that. Because that is proactive. Money coming out of every orifice every time I turn around. But no proactive policing from me.
Rahm had to be steaming about the sergeant's vote. He will unleash a shitstorm.
He is not bright enough to realize that he does not have the support he needs to do so.
Keeping our contract just the way it is, is just fine with me. The mayor has this City soo Fukd up he doesn't know his azz from the hole in ground where he just dumped 30 mil for a Maggie Daley park.
Pay what you owe the pension fund when you owe it and stop looking for an end around. stop lying to these people about the property taxes with massive increases. tell them the truth about what its really going to cost them. Float bonds. Open the TIFF account so people really see what is in there you fool. that will be opened soon when you try to pull a bankruptcy ploy. You're a one timer anyways and NOT gunna be president of this Great Nation.
Anonymous said...
Does anybody know if FTO Test results are in
3/13/2013 01:56:00 AM
uhhhh ya last week
Didn't Todd V. of the NRA say something about downstate legislators not giving 9.5 anything he wants because of the conceal-carry issue? Maybe some lobbying is in order.
Don't worry rham can't get rid of Mikey. Mikey will get rid of himself.
The question is where will Mikey land after we in elect him?
Wow Mikes head is getting bigger. Mike should think about staying off television. Between his looks and blathering its embarrassing.
These are pretty tough times for PO. You guys better stick together firm. These politicians are looking to harm you. Period. They need scapegoats. Stand firm and deal them a dirty hand like they are trying to deal you.
"... retired sergeants knew nothing of Ade and company's dirty dealings with Rahm..."
Only Ade, Bilotta, White and Pleines knew the details and they can't explain why they agreed to this shit...am glad the unit reps/board put it out for a vote and more glad that it was resoundingly rejected
The mayor has alienated the teachers union,the Sgt's union and will no doubt succeed in alienating FOP.
He has no intention to negotiate in good faith with FOP. His intention is to again negotiate away pension rights.
What stooges will he use this time? How many Jim Ade"s are out there ready to sell out?
The Sergeants in rejecting this farce of a contract did what the working Sergeants do every day. They led from the front with authority. They set the example for what is right. Almost 90 percent rejection is a slam dunk rejection and yet the mayor and his stooge,Ade, continue to say we are in denial.
I say you,mayor, are in denial. You were elected by the people to run Chicago in a fair and equitable way to the benefit of the citizens of Chicago. Instead you reward your political cronies at the expensive of the working class that built and run this city. Can you say red light!
You are a carpetbagger and you will not stand.
Anonymous said...
Boys and girls please sit on your hands when at work. We show Rham our strength by being united. Spring is weeks away and the gangs will be itching. No proactive policing!!!!!!!
3/13/2013 12:25:00 AM
Something tells me that you would not engage in " proactive policing" under any circumstances and probably never did.Go back to selling nails at Home Depot.
Wait until the city announces their plans for retiree health care. Oak Park police retirees pay 1500 per month as do Cook County sheriff retirees. Do you think CPD retirees will be far behind?
"People need to realize the failed experiment that Sheilds is and move on during the next elections. No matter what the outcome of the contract, the amount it is costing the FOP and the distractions his administration has had on the membership is horrible."
Exactly. Emanuel is the enemy. Shields is merely a distraction.
rb
CALL YOUR ALDERMAN! Now is the time to make him or her earn their pay. Fuck you Rahm! Who the fuck is he to decide not to negotiate in good faith. Call the aldermen and let them know they are not going to be allowed to sit on their hands on this one. We Will Not Forget or Forgive this time. Fuck You Rahm!
Keep messing with us Mr Mayor and you might get yourself a blue flu. Is that what you want tough guy. Tough guy my ass.
He screwed up. Oh well deal with it. He's our guy we voted for him. He's got balls. It's his first contract. There are people in the FOP that have been there before and what ,they don't speak up and say anything about sending the termination letter. Shame on them. We're not poor, as long we don't give Rahm an inch I'm good with it. And you should be too.
Anonymous said...
"Whether that is right or wrong does not matter, its the perception of them and the effect it is having on the membership."
Really???? That is so typical. Ignorance with a keyboard. Shields is leading the charge on the pension battlefield and idiots like this are trying to bring him down. You're creating the "perception" your nitwit.
3/13/2013 05:56:00 AM
Hey nitwit, what does leading the charge on the pension battlefield have to do with the president lying to us about the letter? Shields created the problem by not reading our own contract and sending the notice at the proper time as spelled out in the contract. You expect him to get us a fair contract when he could not even read/understand the current one?
Does it really matter, an arbitrator is going to decide our contract anyway. Rham never had any intention of bargaining in good faith. The Sgt's contract sucked !!! Ade agreed to raise the pension contribution along with the minimum retirement age and gave away the yearly COLA, for what, a 9% raise that in essence is no raise at all. It looks like FOP screwed up by not filing that letter but the last few contracts have been back loaded with raises to avoid substantial retro pay. In regards to that letter, I sure hope any past or present FOP reps/officers didn't allow Shields to let that deadline pass knowingly just to make him look bad. Because if they did they hurt us all. Last I saw there were still a few seasoned board members down there that should have been in his ear. Whether you voted for him or not it's your duty to look out for the membership.I say give up nothing to this ass (Rham). Why should we pay more into our pension we didn't create this pension mess. Go ahead raise property taxes. Why should we pay a couple more thousand dollars a year into the pension fund? Let everyone share in the burden because the out right crimes of this and past administrations. My raised taxes won't amount to 3% more of my salary, not even close. Better yet tax toilet paper so EVERY asshole has to pay!!! Let it all go to arbitration. He's just like his buddy in DC , your going to give me what I want and you should be happy doing it. Screw him !!! Let's take it to arbitration.
RAHM says, Just go out and bring me more revenue, you are all stupid and are a bunch of pussies!
Hey trustee Fernando Flores stop advocating for not working special. You guys cost me six months of a raise at least I can work special to make it up. the key is to not let everyone know you are a goof.
Anonymous said...
If "pension matters are state law" : then how did the FOP have the power ( right) to forgive the city a 20 million contribution to the pension in an earlier negotiation?
3/13/2013 07:56:00 AM
Because the trade off was we went from 32 years and a day to 29 years in a day. Not one person at a meeting at the time was against it. It like two grains of sand from the North Ave beach.
Still posting about " constitution- taking it to court- the law"--- really amusing. One would think by now that most of the posters should know it is not legit.
OT:
via chicagotrib..
"Some aldermen want hearings on fixing or dumping Taste of Chicago"
Fricken A man! The Taste lost $1.3 mil. dollars last year.
This so-called World-Class operation is gonna bankrupt us.
We don't need to build a $55 mil. Maggie Daley park to hold money losing festivals in for the tourist either.
What percentage of the taxpayers here is that park, the Taste, or the six-figure-per-mile bike paths benefiting? Ten percent if that?
The citizen taxpayers need to stop subsidizing this crap for the elite travelers. It's not helping.
How about paying the bill for 17 hours of medical staff trying to save that six-month old gang-bangers baby that was shot five times as a consequence of the culture the city leaders have created here. Eff the Taste! Maggie Park and the bike lanes.
Ammunition maker Alliant Techsystems Inc stock price hit another 52 week price high today
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Now is a great time to stand united, like the teachers did. Rahm is powerless and Madigan hates him. They have a casino bill in their hands that will add Billions, YES Billions. Thats why they are trying to get this pension Reform (more like Givebacks) before the windfall of cash comes. Fair would be alloting 10% of that money and in 15 years the pensions would be healthy. They are trying to scare you into giving up benefits. And remember we've made consessions. The new hires have to work to 55 already. They are targeting active employees and retirees which will never stand up in court and they know it. Stay United whether you like your union President or not and you'll be fine. Time to Fight for whats right.
Hey! You can Always hit the Medical!
Figure out what your Loss of Retro Pay is for 2012,
Divide by your Daily Rate of Pay,
However many Days it takes to recover your losses over the course of your remaining time on the job...Take the Day(s) Off (up to 3 days at a time) with Pay!
Fuck Me Rahm? Nooooooo, Fuck You!
Make sure it's between your days off! Don't want to miss McStupids VRI Special Employment $$$
The mayor is no friend of unions and he has no problem taking a 4x4 and pounding it up any unions ass.
There is a pension fix on the books already. The city has to pay by law the funds decided by legislation. The Mayor wants to welch out of the deal by changing the law. I am a tax payer so stop saying you will have to raise taxes. How about raise the taxes some and cut social entitlement programs some? No No because the dogs will be angry, remember MR Mayor there are 9 thousand men and women with guns that keep those dogs at bay, do not piss us off!!How about fix the Politicians and Judges pensions first, then look at ours, seems right to me.
Who's that little shit's to be talking about honesty? Him and his a-hole buddy Barry don't even know waht the word means.
It is amazing to me the power and impact that one mayor can have on a City.
3/13/2013 08:56:00 AM
and yet, they all still fear me.
Chalkie
So u can quit crying that u won't get a thousand dollar retro, time works in OUR favor not theirs.
3/13/2013 08:52:00 AM
precisely.
Chalkie
The union can not call for a job action. But I think since our own leader wants to do the broken window shit Again we should follow his lead. We should all spend the entire tour of duty in the station processing all the little shit we look the other way on because we are staying up for the in progress calls. Of course that would cause a no cars available situation. That might get someone’s attention. No Cars Available Fridays sounds good to me starting 22 Mar13. Then on Saturdays and the Sundays. Jobs will just stack up and up. But you have to do it right. We can bring this city to it’s knees if we all do our jobs legit. No sandbagging.
3/13/2013 08:40:00 AM
as much as i'd like to help, the thing is, i don't do windows.
at least not deliberately.
Chalkie
honestly the city will run perfect with 30 less alderman .
3/13/2013 08:35:00 AM
Honestly, the city will run perfect with 50 less alderman.
And 1 less mayor.
If you've paid attention to Rahm back when he was running for Mayor he has always had a strong despise for ya and Fire and an even stronger dislike of our pensions.
He's wanted to screw us out of our pensions from the get-go. It's him and his fello slime ball politicians that keep beating the drum that the only way out of this is "pension reform" .... which really means larger contributions for us and less take home retirement income for us also. Meanwhile the city doesn't have to change their ways.
The slimeball politicians have been repeating this pension reform mantra so often the newspapers and public think it's the right and only thing to do.
Rahm I hope you rot in Hell.
well fuck Rahm - let's see what the general assembly does
Listen write a case report for every crime , request an ET for every burglary , recovered auto,domestic battery etc .
General Assembly?
I've got your General Assembly right here!
And we have more time to help expose their bullshit as well.
So u can quit crying that u won't get a thousand dollar retro, time works in OUR favor not theirs.
3/13/2013 08:47:00 AM
Thanks for that -- Someone who thinks like me. 1% of $85000 is $850 dollars. $12.26 a week after taxes @ 25%. Big F'n deal. We have more important things to worry about like pensions. I'm not interested in a 33% increase to my contribution, like the Sgt's contract was calling for.
Put that 1% into my pension. If a $10 dollar bill a week gets you that excited, work VRI, you won't know what to do with all that excitement.
The union can not call for a job action. But I think since our own leader wants to do the broken window shit Again we should follow his lead. We should all spend the entire tour of duty in the station processing all the little shit we look the other way on because we are staying up for the in progress calls. Of course that would cause a no cars available situation. That might get someone’s attention. No Cars Available Fridays sounds good to me starting 22 Mar13. Then on Saturdays and the Sundays. Jobs will just stack up and up. But you have to do it right. We can bring this city to it’s knees if we all do our jobs legit. No sandbagging.
3/13/2013 08:40:00 AM
The G.O's are our ace-in-the-hole. No boss can take action against you if you follow them. Do you job according to them and don't worry.
For example-when you lock someone up and tow their car or truck-you are responsible for the contents of that vehicle. So be sure to inventory everything of intrinsic value in it.
When you do vehicle inspection on Sunday, be sure to note every defect and then go check them against the vehicle file.
These are just a few of the many ways to do a proper and thorough job following CPD G.O.'s.
Now is a great time to stand united, like the teachers did. Rahm is powerless and Madigan hates him. They have a casino bill in their hands that will add Billions, YES Billions. Thats why they are trying to get this pension Reform (more like Givebacks) before the windfall of cash comes. Fair would be alloting 10% of that money and in 15 years the pensions would be healthy. They are trying to scare you into giving up benefits. And remember we've made consessions. The new hires have to work to 55 already. They are targeting active employees and retirees which will never stand up in court and they know it. Stay United whether you like your union President or not and you'll be fine. Time to Fight for whats right.
The casino money is ALL earmarked for education. When they were trying to get the casino, that was agreed on. Our pension will never see a penny of casino money
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