Old Ideas Are New Again (Again)
First up, Broken Windows makes it's Chicago debut....under the name Broken Windows - it was stolen years ago and called something else..."quality of life arrests" or something. Back before we had New York people running things, Chicago folks borrowed generously from the NYPD idea factory:
- Police Superintendent Garry McCarthy said today he wanted to bring a "broken windows" strategy to Chicago that would allow cops to arrest those who ignore tickets for routine offenses like gambling and public urination.
"Fixing the little things prevents the bigger things," McCarthy, long an advocate of the "broken windows" approach, said at a press conference at the Harrison Police District Station.
The superintendent said an ordinance would be proposed to the City Council to allow police to arrest those who fail to pay tickets for public urination, public consumption of alcohol and gambling, "the three top complaints" he said from residents. Currently, 65 percent of the tickets go unpaid, McCarthy said.
You just know that 65% unpaid rate grates on Rahm like sandpaper.
Here we go though, enforcing little crimes prevents big crimes is the theory, and it has produced positive results in practice. The only thing it needs is a fully-staffed police department, enough cars and teams to get it done, fully operational lock-ups to process the sudden influx of prisoners, and a willing Cook County Jail to take all the assholes who won't be paying bond money.
Oh yeah - no I-Bonds, which fits nicely into the way McBrokenStreetlights wants things to be, but doesn't take into account Dart's and Preckwinkle's desires to cut their budgets and empty out County.
We also saw a report on NBC this afternoon of a brand new idea to shut down open air drug markets, and then....get this....park a car at the location to discourage the boys from setting up the operation again and warning off former customers. NBC doesn't appear to have a link up yet, but you can rest assured, it's brilliant!
In fact, we remember it being called the Distressed Neighborhood Program back in the late 1990's and it was run by Vice and Special Operations. It may even have been created during Phil Cline's reign as every idea seems to be traceable back to him lately - almost as if someone is going through the history books and seeing what worked five and ten years ago....you know, instead of coming in like a New York or FBI blowhard and trying to reinvent the wheel.
Here we go though, enforcing little crimes prevents big crimes is the theory, and it has produced positive results in practice. The only thing it needs is a fully-staffed police department, enough cars and teams to get it done, fully operational lock-ups to process the sudden influx of prisoners, and a willing Cook County Jail to take all the assholes who won't be paying bond money.
Oh yeah - no I-Bonds, which fits nicely into the way McBrokenStreetlights wants things to be, but doesn't take into account Dart's and Preckwinkle's desires to cut their budgets and empty out County.
We also saw a report on NBC this afternoon of a brand new idea to shut down open air drug markets, and then....get this....park a car at the location to discourage the boys from setting up the operation again and warning off former customers. NBC doesn't appear to have a link up yet, but you can rest assured, it's brilliant!
In fact, we remember it being called the Distressed Neighborhood Program back in the late 1990's and it was run by Vice and Special Operations. It may even have been created during Phil Cline's reign as every idea seems to be traceable back to him lately - almost as if someone is going through the history books and seeing what worked five and ten years ago....you know, instead of coming in like a New York or FBI blowhard and trying to reinvent the wheel.
Labels: crime
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
117 Comments:
He's totally out of ideas, another whack job ideas, no wonder I drink so much!
Top 3 complaints from citizens. Who the fuck did they interview or get that percentage from? On my beat, my top 3 complaints are 01) I never see the police, ever! 02)burglaries, home invasions and thefts are out of control 03)bangers, thugs, scumbags walk the streets and alleys in my neighborhood unchallenged. beat 433 resident, family of the police.
ANOVS DONT DO SQUAT! they can get 15 non payment or more without ever being flagged to become ineligible when running there names on leads. locking them up dont do squat either. misdemeanor court is just a big joke as felony court is.
It's like that movie Ground Hogs day with Bill Murry.
Might I suggest a new green colored crime scene tape to be used when you find a puddle in an ally to protect the evidence until the techs get on scene.
Oh yeah and that suggestion for porta potties to be used as the DBI drop boxes maybe are not so silly after all.
"We also saw a report on NBC this afternoon of a brand new idea to shut down open air drug markets, and then....get this....park a car at the location to discourage the boys from setting up the operation again and warning off former customers."
Isn't this what the cameras were for? LOL! Is McCarthy saying the cameras are ineffective? Oh, wait. This is probably some kind of ingenious multi-prong strategy.
rb
We get to break windows???
I can't wait!!!
Who is he kidding? These rats aren't gonna pay their fines and judges aren't gonna issue warrants. Keep feedin the rats and they will keep crapping all over the place.
* NEW STRATEGY * NEW STRATEGY * NEW STRATEGY *
GOLDEN STRAIT JACKET AWARDED AT GALA ALL-STARS BANQUET IN GLITTERING "RUBBER ROOM"
In the finest red-faced, sweating, jerking, babbling tradition of Mayor Richard M. Daley, CHICAGO POLICE SUPERINTENDENT GARRY MCCARTHY IS HEREBY DECLARED TO BE IRREVOCABLY, CLINICALLY INSANE.
Today, McCarthy announced the umpteenth iteration of his "Broken Windows" urination-management plan -- weirdly alternating with conflicting announcements about eliminating police response to 50% of 911 calls.
This has been a press release from the Center For New Strategies.
* NEW STRATEGY * NEW STRATEGY * NEW STRATEGY *
"The superintendent said an ordinance would be proposed to the City Council to allow police to arrest those who fail to pay tickets for public urination, public consumption of alcohol and gambling, 'the three top complaints' he said from residents."
If this is true, why are we paying so much attention to those silly homicide numbers?
rb
He must watch Southland. The last episode they had a "Broken Windows" strategy.
We had "Operation Pride" in 011 back in the early-mid 90s. 93' rings a bell.
Got paid time-and-a-half to sit on the busiest dope tips in a marked car on your RDOs. Being on the tact team back then pretty much guaranteed us the lions share of that short lived cash.
Too many differences exist between then and today's VRI to even begin to explain why those working Rahm and McCarthy's "Hail Mary OT Initiative" are part of the problem. It will, however, become crystal clear once our contract goes to arbitration.
Yes SCC, everything old IS new again. Sadly, the only evolving constant is the continued decimation of what I remember as a proud department full of the Real Police.
RIP, CPD. I hardly knew ye.
Broken window shit again? Maybe Jimmy Ade could become a glazer.
Duhhhhhhh this is all the tact teams have been doing for years..Locking up old ass nasy piss bums stickin up the wagons.
"Fixing the little things prevents the bigger things."
So how come we still have 'way too much of both?
SCC,good memory,it was the DNP (Distressed Neighborhoods Program) I got assigned about late 1998 early 99. We were to maintain a corner after the "real SOS" made a drug bust,cleared a corner,did a search warrant etc. It actually turned out that we never once did that. We were a 4600 series of cars and from day one did exactly as the "regular" SOS cars did. Everything old is new again!
Dumb
The group Dead Or Alive is back in motion, You spin me watch round baby watch round like a record baby watch round round round.
Ya put a car on a closed drug spot, arrest every little offense, you gotta be kidding me. The only way this will work, and I mean only way, is if we have enough people.
We can't even answer all the calls. Has McNumbnuts ever heard of a backlog. Thats the thing when you don't have enough cars to respond. Oh wait we don't have enough cars to put up, oh wait we are in a backlog.
WTF, what comes first the chicken or the egg, the cop or McNumbnuts. If I am arresting everyone then when can I do my bullshit contact cards.
NOTHING MAKES SENSE.
Parking a car at a dope spot was also called operation closed market under Cline. It was a total waste of time.
The concept goew back well before Cline, who also never had an original idea, and put this Dept. on the road to where it is today.
Broken Windows was broken a long time ago when actual numbers were crunched. But it makes for a great dog and pony show for the mayor who can appear to be "really" getting tough on criminals without actually doing anything. Countys' going to be filled with Cub fans for pissing in the alley. http://www.boston.com/news/globe/ideas/articles/2006/02/19/the_cracks_in_broken_windows/?page=full
This broken windows theory is full of shit. Honestly so going after the piss bum will stop the more serious crimes? Any working copper knows that there are different classifications of criminals. They go from hard core murderers and rapists to the regular drunkard pisser.
Let's first focus on the big fish.
So, let me see if I understand this....
Right now, you can physically arrest someone for pissing or drinking, removing them from the street where they could shoot/get shot.
The Supe is extending ANOVs to pissers and drinkers so they can get tickets, then IF the dont pay them and then IF we stop them again for pissing or drinking we can physically arrest them so they can't shoot/get shot.
I'm sorry, how is this supposed to improve things?
Here's a new idea that just might change things, try NOT voting democrat.
"...and a willing Cook County Jail to take all the assholes who won't be paying bond money."
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great point. And another note: Try to lock up some Asians and Caucasians fellas. Preckwinkle does not appreciate the demographics of Cook County Jail. She said there is a cold place in hell for Ronald Reagan due to his implementation of the "drug war."
Someone tell Preckwinkle that the bodies in county are there due to the laws implemented by our state legislature. That's right Teri, not one prisoner sits in county for violating a federal law.
Goof.
1989 Lt. Bob Dart(no relation to the Sheriff) took over Mass Transit and instituted Zero Tolerence on the CTA. He brought in new Sgt. many of whom were Vietnam Vets and arrests began for everything from spitting on a CTA platform, somoking and urinating. Crime went down and the Unit received a fancy new ribbon! The courts, central detention and everyone else in the food chain began to complain about the "sandbag" arrests. When Dart left and the Unit went back to being a hiding place for political hacks, the CTA returned to being unsafe. ZERO TOLERENCE IS NOT NEW, THIS IS MORE BULLSHIT! WHERE ARE THE REAL NEW IDEAS?
If locking up the jagoffs for lesser crimes prevents bigger crimes, then why are we only writing tickets for posession of weed?
Sorry, I forgot that means revenue which hasn't got a thing to do with crime.
Seems like dese boys be talkin' out bof sides of dey moufs.
Yes, let's continue to drive right past the drug dealing violent offenders and write the old hype an ANOV for drinking! We already have our fair share of tactical and incident team officers in 007 and 011 refusing to make quality arrests and in their place CTTL,cigarette, dvd and drinking arrests. Let's not encourage this even more. What an embarrassment.
I believe the New York method was also followed up with zero tolerance prosecution as well. Cooperation between the department and 26/cal and branch courts to tighten sentences could make a difference.
And before ANOVs tact teams arrested every one in the ghetto for these b.s. charges. They would be. I bonded out in an hour and back on the street drinking, pissing and gambling again in no time. Then the bullshit would get thrown out in court. Nice try Gary. Been there done that. Try thinking of another policy
Is this how you're going to fix the wilding problem this summer?
http://mobile.wnd.com/2013/03/its-scuffle-with-dozens-of-people-guns/?cat_orig=us
What happened?
McCarthy find one of Cline's old binders under a Tufano's menu?
O.T. To all who want to bid to 20, its a great place to be. All you have to do is show up on time. The Lt and Sgt's go blind after rollcall. You can fuck off all day. Oh ya dont wear WHITE socks. Welcome.
I wonder how much of the Anov police guys out there even run their names at all? There Is an old timer guy in Mass Transit who let a robbery offender go. He even had presence of mind to take a picture of the "strong arm" robbery offender with his phone. Mind you he has over 19 years on the job! I guess you would not know how to be the police working in slow north side districts would you?When asked about why didn't he lock POS up he stated " I didn't have PC to lock him up! You mean investigative alert suspect subject probable cause to arrest not PC!!!He goes by the name of Anov magic! It goes to show you time on the job don't mean you are the "real" police or were the "real" police!
I'm confused -- if I get a ticket in the suburbs (or anywhere else in the nation) for something and ignore it long enough, I get a warrant issued.
Why this that being heralded as a brilliant new idea for Chicago? You fucking retards, this is already how the rule of law is supposed to work!
did you see the broken window on the minivan at 65 and maryland--- 6 month old shot 5 times while daddy was changing her diaper--- daddy took 3 as well--- when the scumbag who committed this crime is caught it will be the same old story--- he got multiple probations and he is out of jail early and the finger pointing will begin--- same old sad story and no strategy in the world will ever change it....
OT Things are getting ridiculous over on Zone 10 (districts 10 and 11) these days. We already have a very busy zone. Now with all of these VRI people running names and plates constantly, the beat cars literally can't get on the radio. Can't call for help or update status because someone is always trying to run 3 names "really quick". PLEASE put VRI and the sat teams on a citywide. It's a simple solution. They can run names all night without a problem. Or, maybe they should have PDTs in their cars. If people have to bring in activity to get their OT spot, that's fine. Just put them on their own zone so all us regular folks can use the radio too. It's just not safe the way it is.
So I guess 1 baggers will once again will be the norm......I'm sure those guys aren't paying the fines either
OT: This day in the history of merit in the Chicago Police Det.
Regarding the 1993 Sgt's test, plaintiffs initiated a lawsuit against the city in that the test violated the Title VII of the Civil Rights Act of 1965 (AKA Affirmative Action). There was no merit whatsoever on the '93 test. During the trial, the city established a 'panel' to review their promotional practices. The panel recommended 30% merit.
So it was.
Merit was first put into practice for Sgts on the '98 test. In August 1998, the City promoted 251 patrol officers to sergeant as a result of this examination. Of these 251, 178 were promoted in rank order from the Assessment Eligible List, and 73 were promoted as a result of the Merit Component.
This is your day in merit history.
HURRAY!
The name of this latest initiative should be called... McScarecrow.
I have a new strategy. Operation Get Rid Of McShit Strategy.
If the courts don't actually punish any of these dirt bags with jail time, then it's all a smoke blowing, bullshit waste of time. I've seen losers running the streets with upwards of 400 arrests on their rap sheets and McStupid wants me to arrest pissers and drinkers. Give me a fucking break. No I-Bonds? Yeah right. You don't have enough lock ups to house all the assholes being brought in as it is if you didn't I-Bond them before our shifts ended.
A little piss on the grass ain't so bad.
It originally was started in 011 by Doug Bolling so the residents on the block could have one day without drugs being sold and the children could go out and play without being worried about being shot.
The original idea came from O.W.Wilson in the 60's. If you let people get away with little things, they move on to bigger things. It is not a new strategy. Retired CPD who came on in 1967 under Wilson. We had 13,000 police officers than, not like today. You need manpower to implement these programs. Da.
This is just another propaganda campaign. These old 'new ideas' are kept in stock for periodic dispersion. And the lapdog media eats it up.
The name of the game is to keep the corrupt system afloat. The Media's job is to provide cover. Reporting on this nonsense as some grand new initiative is part and parcel of their complicity in maintaining the status quo.
They don't have enough staff at The City to deal with this stuff anymore. No one works there anymore---only the managers who meet but cannot perform actual jobs. Everyone retired or got laid-off.
Let's figure this out. First we're gonna issue a ticket instead of locking them up in the first place, then we're gonna lock them up for not paying the ticket. Well it seems to me that the 65% of unpaid tickets are to people who are homeless or just don't work cuz they get free Obama bucks. So where are they gonna get the money to pay the fine? Their NOT. Another stupid idea from McFuckface
Maybe it's me,but I never understood how locking up some broken down piss bum for drinking in an alley curbs serious crime.The arresting beat and/or transporting vehicle are tied up for who knows how long.Back when locking up pissers and drinkers was the in vogue with tac teams,I saw pissed off wagon crews bringing in a ton of bums at once and the "working"tac guys sat in the tac office for hours processing this BS.
Anyone care to enlighten me as to how this joke of a police strategy curbs serious crime?
Where are they going to find cars to park at the dope spots? Maybe we could make some cardboard cutouts, I'll bring the water colors, someone else bring the glue
Until the liberal cook county court system gets on board to actually convict people of even the smallest crimes, none of this stuff will work.
All these tactics have been tried elsewhere and generally failed to produce much in the way of results. The crime rate is generally going down so claiming these strategies were the reason is not supportable by facts.
In reality, there is very little that police on their own can do to reduce crime overall. It takes a lot more than the latest PR stunt.
About the only thing shown to have much effect is locking up the most violent ones for longer periods of time. They commit fewer crimes while locked up. All the other tactics and strategies have generally failed to produce much in the way of verifiable results.
Wasting expensive resources on relatively minor offenders serves no real purpose and is no longer even an option, given the financial realities the state faces.
I can just see it now. A gang banger hanging his head, talking to his homies."Damn, there's a cop car at our usual corner and shit....yo... What do we do now....I guess we're out of business....damn."
Seriously it's fucking brilliant. Why hasn't anyone thought of this before?
Signed, NAC (not a cop)
Yeah, I'll go ahead a lock them all up for dopw and urinating in public and all the other mcc charges. I have no problem with that, although I'd rather be locking up dope dealers and gang bangers instead. Anyway, yeah I have no problem with that but why doesnt Mcgreatideas visit every desk and every watch commander and every lockup and let them know that's what he wants because when we do lock somebody up for petty shit, not because we want to but because we're told to, we get grief and flack from the WC, the desk and the lock up for doing it. They make our life a living hell just for doing are job and making arrests.
Why fix broke windows when there are no floors, walls or ceilings!
131 days and counting until that cucksoker Rahm takes away all medical [which we pay for] benefits from us retired guys.
Got news for ya, after working in several districts in my almost 20 year career and now working in 016 it is busier than anyone wants to admitt.The stuff that drives through and now lives in the distict is sadly alarming !It's time we get the resources here that we need and deserve...The NW side of the city is shrinking in terms of where we can live safely
All about the Benjamins!
Shame they can't use the welfare check to pay fines.
Maybe we need
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Another connected office
Biggest mistake the City ever made of preventing our proactivity was taking away the Vehicle Impoundment notifications for EACH auto that was impounded.
Back when it was at 11th and State and first instituted the Vehicle Impoundment was a GREAT tool for hammering DUDE and his bullshit with sounds violation and all the narcotics and gun and even curfew violations to take his/her ride.
The officers got paid and the City made money hand over fist. If they scrapped the car the City still made out on paying the officer for his appearance.
Either it was GREED on the City part or the BEEFS that rolled in from the aldermen that killed the notifications and slowed us down!
TOO BAD.....
Bring it back and results would follow!
3 bars
Lots of wasted time and money.
The "Broken Windows" philosophy was developed by James Q. Wilson, a professor. It basically says that if you take care of the little quality of life issues, major crimes will be reduced because the neighborhood looks better (a block full of businesses or residences with broken windows sends the message that no one cares about the community; therefore, criminals take roots there and hence the name, the Broken Window theory. Bratton used it rather successfully in New York. But then again he had over 30,000 cops, didn't he?
OT: Gun control laugh of the day...
http://i.imgur.com/cmBMeeZ.jpg
It could happen!..
Oh Look! LEAVE IT TO BEAVERS is on. I love that show.
LEAVE IT TO BEAVERS
Breaking the Code of Silence/Drop Box Initiative Episode.
via ChicagoTrib...
"Cook County Commissioner William Beavers once again vowed to testify, telling reporters that the government tells "some tall tales" and reiterating his stance that he was indicted after he refused to cooperate against other elected officials. "
Hey GARRY, why not start right here? Break that Code of Silence. Break that Window. Show these political officials that the laws mean something. Now is the time.
Maybe the first installations of those drop boxes should be in the Downtown Tower of Bullshit and cook county offices eh?
Rumor has it that the episode ends with a rowdy rendition of:
♫ ...will the (clouted) circle be unbroken by and by lord by and by...
Hey, Garry
Isn't it about time to expand your NYPD strategies to movable SkyWatch surveillance towers in the shytholes of ChiTown?
Old News Again. This is for the press, not the police.
Does it bother any of the politicians or police agencies that in Illinois each year there are More People Killed In Car Accidents Than Murders.
In the U.S. for each Murder, approximately Three people Die in traffic accidents.
Slowing down Murders is very complicated. It will take more police.
Slowing down Traffic Deaths is pretty EASY. It will take more police dedicated to D.U.I. and other traffic enforcement.
As for Judges, how about putting people with more than one D.U.I. in jail automatically?
Currently in Chicago we are so undermanned that routine patrolling is hurting, let alone additional traffic enforcement.
To Review,
More Traffic Deaths Than Murders In Illinois and U.S.
Murders Can Be Reduced, and Traffic Deaths Can Be Greatly Reduced With MORE MANPOWER.
Obama? Quinn? Rahm? Anything?
privatization raise it's head again
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/15662385-418/city-to-hire-500-new-cops-but-aldermen-say-thats-not-enough.html
Ald. Bob Fioretti (2nd) wants to privatize chicago( Tiny would love that no pension worries)just cut them in for a share of the gold.
maybe we can get Louie Farrahkhan and the Fruit Of Islam to do it, or better yet how about those "community activists" that louie wanted to hire for security
closed market was TOTALLY USELESS. Drug deals goin on right in front of da play police Patty Carr sitting sleepin or readin hee magazine tryin to decide where to go for lunch. NEVER made an arrest in her career but she the hate crime specialist. Yea right dont even carry a gun. Days of scalise I thought were gone. Ramy, Byrd, Ahern and Mullins. LOL
OT: and now for some really important news:
Black smoke rises from Sistine Chapel after cardinals' first vote
I Fart In Your General Direction said...
We had "Operation Pride" in 011 back in the early-mid 90s. 93' rings a bell.
Got paid time-and-a-half to sit on the busiest dope tips in a marked car on your RDOs. Being on the tact team back then pretty much guaranteed us the lions share of that short lived cash.
Too many differences exist between then and today's VRI to even begin to explain why those working Rahm and McCarthy's "Hail Mary OT Initiative" are part of the problem. It will, however, become crystal clear once our contract goes to arbitration.
Yes SCC, everything old IS new again. Sadly, the only evolving constant is the continued decimation of what I remember as a proud department full of the Real Police.
RIP, CPD. I hardly knew ye.
3/12/2013 01:47:00 AM
I am deeply involved in Operation Kiss My Ass and find myself 5 months into retirement. No stress, no bullshit, I smile more and clench my fists and grind my teeth less.
Retirement is great. Get there as fast as you all can, it's like throwing off a lead overcoat getting away from a police station for good. Once those pension checks start flowing you never look back.
Never again will I ever have any involvement with anything police-like.
Wooooeeeeeee!
This here system be broke and there aint NO fixin it. Just enjoy the ride as best you can and get the heck out of dodge as soon as able.
Daddy of year-ole boy-supposedly changing pamper in car thinkin he be shot. Ole boy was but he be OK. Baby shot 5 times and all cries. Baby daddy a banger but babby die. HUH. Lets live with these FOOLS. Who cares?????????????????////////
OT- Any truth to the rumor that there is a list of the Sgts who voted YES to the contract and sell everyone out. Surprising the names and districts like 015, 025, and other working districts. Well good luck with that. Nothing like losing your friends and the respect of the men and women working under you, who you sold out. Keep listening to your "friends" on the board or former board. Way to side with the city against your own.
A little off topic, but has to do with McFuckhead in regards to the 6 month old baby that died from the drive by. "They were shooting at the father" Really?
What the f--k?
“We’ve talked with some of the gang leaders, and we’ve talked with them about how important it is to not harbor offenders that they know are offenders who have committed crimes associated with innocent victims,” Cochran said. “These are acts that are carried about by people on the street, and on the street is where it has to be dealt with.”
Cochran said he received commitments from gang leaders that they would not harbor anyone who killed innocent victims and they would send a message such actions were not acceptable. He declined to identify how many leaders or which ones he talked to.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/ct-met-conceal-carry-case-20130312,0,2213293.story
and so it begins....
They are already doing it. When they arrest everybody they are calling it a roundup. Then two weeks after the round up a car has to be posted in the call it a wrap around. This is supposed to be 24 hours a day for two weeks after the round up. It's a huge waste of manpower.
If I recall, Our Supt. never wanted specialized units because they polarize the hood, and said beat cars are whats happening, this guy has 30 yrs of experience, where? I know quite a few New York cops who say he is a BIG GOOF, this guy has a great con game going, and the sooner we go back to old school policing the better off the entire city will be, I say declare war on these assholes, zero tolerance on everything, back when I was a ranger we would get criticised for bringing in a one bagger, or Drinker, but you know what, check the gun pinches, we were sky high, check the Agg Bats,Murders, etc, these thugs feared the police, but we have NO LEADERSHIP< PUSSY ASS BITCHY BOSSES!!!!!
"Isn't this what the cameras were for? LOL! Is McCarthy saying the cameras are ineffective? Oh, wait. This is probably some kind of ingenious multi-prong strategy."
rb
3/12/2013 01:04:00 AM
We need more of that in this city.
Multiple prongs, I mean.
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i got it! i feel it's almost time for another hitler movie this time about strategies i can see it now Mc535 and Tiny thinking it up
FRIDAY
Beware the Ides of March.
Gee Where did he learn Strategy?
We need a miltary planner like McCrystal
Have fun implementing strategies for exempts who are going to get tall pensions, weakening your fund.
Repeal Gold Braid now!
Phat Phil gets approx. $146,000 per year. Plus who knows what from the Memorial Fund, plus whatever he got consulting for the County.
Terry gets about $140,000 per year.
...and there are about 400 ex lesser exempts milking that fucker dry.
Demand an end to Gold Braid pensions.
Anonymous said...
It originally was started in 011 by Doug Bolling so the residents on the block could have one day without drugs being sold and the children could go out and play without being worried about being shot.
3/12/2013 09:27:00 AM
You are correct. I had forgotten many of the old names since I left Fillmore, but Bolling was one of the nicer DCs we had. And for those unaware, Doug recently passed away (RIP Boss). And now this reminds me of his son - good luck to Richard.
They took a tool away from us last year with anov for weed...
"Yeah, I'll go ahead a lock them all up for dopw and urinating in public and all the other mcc charges. I have no problem with that, although I'd rather be locking up dope dealers and gang bangers instead. Anyway, yeah I have no problem with that but why doesnt Mcgreatideas visit every desk and every watch commander and every lockup and let them know that's what he wants because when we do lock somebody up for petty shit, not because we want to but because we're told to, we get grief and flack from the WC, the desk and the lock up for doing it. They make our life a living hell just for doing are job and making arrests."
an excellent point, but....is there a correlation between anov's, unpaid anov's, arrest warrants, arrests, jail time, jail space, crime stats (particularly murders, shootings, dope sales)?....meaning...what are the cops supposed to do, how much are they supposed to do, and what effect, if any, does what they do have on the crime rate? (factoring in complaints made against cops for "aggressive" policing, the number of complains resulting in suspensions for aggressive cops, the number of lawsuits filed against aggressive cops (looking for their personal assets).....wondering...just what is "the whole picture", when it comes to criminal behavior?....family dysfunction, absence of a father, poverty, lack of education, drug use, alcohol abuse, failure of the educational system, etc.....and how exactly does using anonymous drop boxes, giving a million bucks to a bunch of thugs called ceasefire (other than to get them to vote democratic), cite the broken windows theory (lock up folks who didn't pay their anov's (when they didn't have a pot to piss in anyway), realizing that there about 300 million firearms (give or take 50 million, aside from the fact that millions more are flying off of the shelves because of the socialistic White House) in the US...are the liberal Democrats either: a) delusional; b) insane (i.e. lost touch with reality); c) so drunk with political power, nothing real makes any sense...
I came on in 94, it was called CAPS back then. It incorporated city services to clean up lots and alleys, and condemned abandoned bldgs. Special attentions were drafted from community concerns at bt mtgs. None of this is new dick wad!!!
Why doesn't he take a page out of the HBO show, "The Wire" and create "Amsterdam."
OT- Any truth to the rumor that there is a list of the Sgts who voted YES to the contract and sell everyone out. Surprising the names and districts like 015, 025, and other working districts. Well good luck with that. Nothing like losing your friends and the respect of the men and women working under you, who you sold out. Keep listening to your "friends" on the board or former board. Way to side with the city against your own.
3/12/2013 03:48:00 PM
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Absolutely not true...at least there is nothing that can be said is accurate in any sense of the word. The ratification process/vote makes it virtually impossible to tell what an individual sergeant voted. It was a legit process and certified by the same guy who sued Rahm to keep him off the ballot. If anyone is circulating a list it is probably bullshit but there are 134 names that do bear some shaming...and the 8 morons that couldn't submit their ballot correctly.
Demand an end to Gold Braid pensions.
3/12/2013 05:57:00 PM
may i presume you are not talking to me?
Chalkie
i got it! i feel it's almost time for another hitler movie this time about strategies i can see it now Mc535 and Tiny thinking it up
3/12/2013 05:30:00 PM
more like Ren and Stimpy's 'Rubber Nipple Salesmen'.
More like Broken Records.
OT but a good read. Article compares Illinois to Greece when it comes to financial fraud and the pension:
http://news.yahoo.com/illinois-greece-penitent-cookers-books-203634680--politics.html
Illinois and Greece as penitent cookers of books
Easy read. Remember this when the political establishment continues to flap their gums about how greedy we are and how unreasonable we are in light of this economy. Bullshit. All we did was pay our share into the pension and didn't fight hard enough to keep pressure on the city to do there part. The politicians are NOT our friends. The clouted among us are NOT are friends. They are but a small minority in the department. Time for the bitch slapped majority to wake up.
Just got an email from FOP, so now it is the City's fault that Shields didn't get the letter in to start negotiating last year. He has been lying to the members for a year, there is no negotiating. Yes the City has been meeting with FOP just like it does every month regardless of contract negotiations. If little Mikey files an unfair labor practice he will summarily lose. But now it's the Mayors fault!! What a tool.
Anonymous said...
Have fun implementing strategies for exempts who are going to get tall pensions, weakening your fund.
Repeal Gold Braid now!
Phat Phil gets approx. $146,000 per year. Plus who knows what from the Memorial Fund, plus whatever he got consulting for the County.
Terry gets about $140,000 per year.
...and there are about 400 ex lesser exempts milking that fucker dry.
Demand an end to Gold Braid pensions.
3/12/2013 05:57:00 PM
I don't know about Phil or Terry but I earned mine, dickhead. Now STFU and go back to your mommy's basement.
Just got my FOP update: Mayor is pissed and we aren't negotiating anymore. Hey Hairgels and desk rodents,keep working hard for this imperial lunatic, he has NO respect or love for us. Basically he's just Short Shanks third testicle.
Here's my new strategy. I get in my cruiser, take off my shiny shoes, read my paper, and have a free coffee. I see "nuthing". Can I have an event number for farting in my car?
I Fart In Your General Direction said...
Anonymous said...
It originally was started in 011 by Doug Bolling so the residents on the block could have one day without drugs being sold and the children could go out and play without being worried about being shot.
3/12/2013 09:27:00 AM
You are correct. I had forgotten many of the old names since I left Fillmore, but Bolling was one of the nicer DCs we had. And for those unaware, Doug recently passed away (RIP Boss). And now this reminds me of his son - good luck to Richard.
3/12/2013 05:58:00 PM
Bolling was exactly what we have now. Just another pussy political hack. It is as if Bolling multiplied.
There are no deals with criminals. They should be punished and when they repeat, they should be punished more. They should be made to suffer wherever they may be. The only role of the police is to put a boot to their head and put their ass in a cage.
There is no negotiation. There are no deals. They are to be made to submit or to suffer until they do.
Anyone who thinks differently will certainly be a rising star in this "police" department. Congrats to both of you.
Anonymous said...
Top 3 complaints from citizens. Who the fuck did they interview or get that percentage from? On my beat, my top 3 complaints are 01) I never see the police, ever! 02)burglaries, home invasions and thefts are out of control 03)bangers, thugs, scumbags walk the streets and alleys in my neighborhood unchallenged. beat 433 resident, family of the police.
3/12/2013 12:11:00 AM
Just a suggestion. Break some windows.
Maybe it's me,but I never understood how locking up some broken down piss bum for drinking in an alley curbs serious crime.The arresting beat and/or transporting vehicle are tied up for who knows how long.Back when locking up pissers and drinkers was the in vogue with tac teams,I saw pissed off wagon crews bringing in a ton of bums at once and the "working"tac guys sat in the tac office for hours processing this BS.
Anyone care to enlighten me as to how this joke of a police strategy curbs serious crime?
3/12/2013 10:12:00 AM
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It doesn't. "Tactical Teams" are the biggest scam in the department. Take a bunch of 3 year wonders, tell them they are elite, let them wear civvies, and now you have a bunch of mindless kool-aid drinking officers you can detail wherever you want, change their start times and days off, and make them implement any stupid missions you can think of.
Meanwhile, the troops will still bring in numbers even though they've been working w/o a contract for nearly a year now. Mushminds...
This VRI is not so bad... I balanced my checkbook, cut out all my coupons from Sunday's newspapers & cleaned my duty weapon. When do I receive my check?
Apparently 001 tact got this memo a few years ago. Drinkers, pissers,bustouts and mentals are the standard arrest in the loop. Occasionally they will upgrade an arrest into a trespass at a McDonalds. Dont want to go after the real jagoff hustlers and beggars because they might have to actually put their hands on them. Bring back the pickpocket teams.
For a glimpse of who might be part of the 134 Sgts, take a look at the list of board of directors and unit reps. They were presented the contract before the membership and they voted unanimously to put it before the membership...............the names can be found on the pbpa chicago website.
If Garry and the city officials were so worried about guns and the children they would be handing out gun locks for free, with no questions asked, like some other cities are doing.
They're not interested.
They ARE interested in creating another revenue stream like the school zone speed trap cameras revenue stream.
Maybe the NRA should consider sponsoring a free gun-lock promotion in Chicago that would draw attention to what a bunch of phonies these people are when they say " we are concerned about your safety"
Tell it to the six year old shot dead with five rounds the other day.
We hear all this political propaganda about "sensible gun controls" and handing out free gun locks seems pretty sensible to me.
I mean after all.."if it saves just one child's life isn't it worth it?"
So why isn't the city doing it? Other cities are.
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Sarcasm on.
Oh and on a side note if Garry and city official are really concerned about public urination, than hand out clothespins and corks.
License them for conceal carry and if you're caught out in public without them you go to jail. Set up training classes with fees on how to use them and where to stick them when appropriate.
Large sugary soft drink makers over 16 oz should be made to tape a clothespin and cork on their containers in case you've lost or misplaced yours and you need one.
This will create an estimated 100,000 much needed jobs over the next 50 years and grow the economy. ha..
City ordinance: Getting pinched for failure to pinch.
The foot chases for: failure to stick a cork in it.. I can hear the stories now.
Squad, running east-bound on Chicago ave from California -- dark hoodie -- dark shoes -- 5-9, M-one running holding his c**k.
Silly I know.
But it just demonstrates how they are not serious about solving the problems, and protecting the public, but interested in monetizing the problems for personal gain instead.
Let's see how many coppers we can tie up chasing pissers. It justifies so, so many jobs.
It builds Garry's kingdom and justifies his job.
You'll need the pisser beat patrols, pisser foot posts, pisser rapid response teams, pisser evidence techs, pisser interrupters, and the tape to protect the pissing scene of the crime.
You'll have to have Sgt's and Lt's, and Captain pissers and someone is gonna have to make sure that the Super doesn't come strolling thru the crime scene walking thru all the piss.
Most of these people we're talking about busting don't even have a pocket or pot to piss in, so what do you want them to do Garry?
How are they going to pay a fine?
/sarcasm
Who's getting punished -- the pisser -- or the taxpayers for having to pay $143/night to keep the pissing bandits in the cook county shitter?
Sure it's disgusting. I don't like it either. It's not worth $143/night of our tax money tho.
This has been a press release from the Center For New Strategies.
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I like that. We should have a Ministry of UriNation too.
Damn it Garry.
Get these "Whizz Kids" off the streets.
SCC,
Overheard the dip stick merit bosses projecting 66 million dollars spent on VRI by the end of the year. Keep it coming McSTUPID and Ramadam. My family wants to thank you for driving 7 blocks in 7 hours for 400 dollars. My partner and I wrote 2 curfews and did 2 contact cards. He drove for 3 hours and I got caught up on my homework for my real job when I finish law school. I drove for 3 hours and he watched a movie. We are laughing all the time at the savages. Every 5 min we ran into another squad. I love thus new strategy. Can't wait for furloughs. I'm projecting an extra 36k this year. Let the beast keep shooting 6 month old babies. Their own community doesn't care. I feel sorry for the kids but guess what? My kids come first. To every good citizen in Chicago. The Chicago Police Deparment cannot protect you. In 17 years I have never seen it so bad!!!! The Chicago Police Department has been destroyed!!!! Take a look at our squad cars. Take a look at the resources being deployed to ghetto areas and our communities being left without police coverage. What is the answer good citizen? Concealed Carry Permit which will be passed June 2013. Arm yourself. Arm your wife. Teach your kids to shoot. It will only be a matter of time before the beast crosses the line and attacks the areas that are not being patrolled. The Mayor and the Superintudent are lying to you. This is not a safe city. It's out of control. You have been warned.
Whelp Garry's right I guess.
Hate to admit it but if that 6 month ol baby didn't urinate in public she would of never needed that diaper changed.
We hope Garry gave dad a ticket for it.
It doesn't. "Tactical Teams" are the biggest scam in the department. Take a bunch of 3 year wonders, tell them they are elite, let them wear civvies, and now you have a bunch of mindless kool-aid drinking officers you can detail wherever you want, change their start times and days off, and make them implement any stupid missions you can think of.
3/12/2013 09:52:00 PM
We have people on the department with less than 5 years on?
SCC,
Overheard the dip stick merit bosses projecting 66 million dollars spent on VRI by the end of the year. Keep it coming McSTUPID and Ramadam. My family wants to thank you for driving 7 blocks in 7 hours for 400 dollars. My partner and I wrote 2 curfews and did 2 contact cards. He drove for 3 hours and I got caught up on my homework for my real job when I finish law school. I drove for 3 hours and he watched a movie. We are laughing all the time at the savages. Every 5 min we ran into another squad. I love thus new strategy. Can't wait for furloughs. I'm projecting an extra 36k this year. Let the beast keep shooting 6 month old babies. Their own community doesn't care. I feel sorry for the kids but guess what? My kids come first. To every good citizen in Chicago. The Chicago Police Deparment cannot protect you. In 17 years I have never seen it so bad!!!! The Chicago Police Department has been destroyed!!!! Take a look at our squad cars. Take a look at the resources being deployed to ghetto areas and our communities being left without police coverage. What is the answer good citizen? Concealed Carry Permit which will be passed June 2013. Arm yourself. Arm your wife. Teach your kids to shoot. It will only be a matter of time before the beast crosses the line and attacks the areas that are not being patrolled. The Mayor and the Superintudent are lying to you. This is not a safe city. It's out of control. You have been warned.
3/12/2013 11:22:00 PM
Your "kids come first" and you lament about no police presence where you live, but you'll whore yourself out to this city to the point of extrapolating a very unrealistic 36K this year. Away from your kids. Away from your once-safe neighborhood.
You'll bend over and spread your ass cheeks wide open to be willingly fucked by the administration trying to diminish your pension and regulalry deprive you of your contractually protected rights.
Your whopping 17 years on the job hasn't taught you a damn thing, junior. Assholes like you - publicly bragging about how little you're doing for very good pay - is why the public doesn't give a rats ass about the police. Handjobs like yourself are why we'll have no public support when they pursue changing the Constitution to have us work more years for a smaller pension.
You want to know why this job is fucked up beyond recovery? Start by looking in the mirror, chump. There'll you'll see a real life definition of "hypocrite". A jackass that puts a price tag of 36 Large on his family's wellbeing while minimizing/trivializing the death of 6 month olds being killed.
Disgusting. But not surprising given what has infiltrated the ranks of the CPD over the years.
SCC,
Overheard the dip stick merit bosses projecting 66 million dollars spent on VRI by the end of the year. Keep it coming McSTUPID and Ramadam. My family wants to thank you for driving 7 blocks in 7 hours for 400 dollars. My partner and I wrote 2 curfews and did 2 contact cards. He drove for 3 hours and I got caught up on my homework for my real job when I finish law school. I drove for 3 hours and he watched a movie. We are laughing all the time at the savages. Every 5 min we ran into another squad. I love thus new strategy. Can't wait for furloughs. I'm projecting an extra 36k this year. Let the beast keep shooting 6 month old babies. Their own community doesn't care. I feel sorry for the kids but guess what? My kids come first. To every good citizen in Chicago. The Chicago Police Deparment cannot protect you. In 17 years I have never seen it so bad!!!! The Chicago Police Department has been destroyed!!!! Take a look at our squad cars. Take a look at the resources being deployed to ghetto areas and our communities being left without police coverage. What is the answer good citizen? Concealed Carry Permit which will be passed June 2013. Arm yourself. Arm your wife. Teach your kids to shoot. It will only be a matter of time before the beast crosses the line and attacks the areas that are not being patrolled. The Mayor and the Superintudent are lying to you. This is not a safe city. It's out of control. You have been warned.
3/12/2013 11:22:00 PM
SCC, the above should be a thread. You hit it on the nail. Great insight!!!! All there doing is throwing millions of out tax dollars when we had a specialized unit MSF. Screw it. I'll take tie and a half any time.
Just a quick question. How many police officers will 66 million pay for ? These people piss away so much money. And the cancer resides in Washington now too. sad.
If you want to work VRI every day, so be it. But why would you brag about doing nothing.....do you want the bosses to realize this and end this program. How about just going out and doing your thing and keep quiet.
Your "kids come first" and you lament about no police presence where you live, but you'll whore yourself out to this city to the point of extrapolating a very unrealistic 36K this year. Away from your kids. Away from your once-safe neighborhood.
You'll bend over and spread your ass cheeks wide open to be willingly fucked by the administration trying to diminish your pension and regulalry deprive you of your contractually protected rights.
Your whopping 17 years on the job hasn't taught you a damn thing, junior. Assholes like you - publicly bragging about how little you're doing for very good pay - is why the public doesn't give a rats ass about the police. Handjobs like yourself are why we'll have no public support when they pursue changing the Constitution to have us work more years for a smaller pension.
You want to know why this job is fucked up beyond recovery? Start by looking in the mirror, chump. There'll you'll see a real life definition of "hypocrite". A jackass that puts a price tag of 36 Large on his family's wellbeing while minimizing/trivializing the death of 6 month olds being killed.
Disgusting. But not surprising given what has infiltrated the ranks of the CPD over the years.
3/13/2013 01:03:00 AM
Thank you,Sir. Your wisdom is showing.
There's only a few of us left and we will be fewer by the end of this year.
Anonymous said...
I came on in 94, it was called CAPS back then. It incorporated city services to clean up lots and alleys, and condemned abandoned bldgs. Special attentions were drafted from community concerns at bt mtgs. None of this is new dick wad!!!
3/12/2013 07:23:00 PM
And that little CAPS black nylon briefcase they gave out would leak when you put the beer and ice in it!
And the reality of what comes with locking up the piss bums, drunks, and junkies is that every one of these anov absconders, bf non-suit from their last arrest urchins and wheezing bags of disease is that every one of them will require a police detail to sit on them in the restful comfort of the local hospital where they all end up since they never seem to need medical treatment until they are in custody. That way we can down two or three additional cars a shift to babysit them in the hospital while they get their toe nails to assholes checked at taxpayer expense. Lock em' up and keep them from breaking more windows so they can further frustrate our depleted, understaffed manpower resources and milk the system only to get an I-Bond at the jail and still not pay or show up once again. It's an orgy of befuckery!
Here is a new idea/old idea....how about a superintendant from within the department?
Kinda like how maijuana is a gateway drug... uups not any more
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