IPRA Plotting Again
Once again, this story rears up:
- To the Blog Author, everyone need to read this. A bunch of us from the 3rd watch of a west side district just heard that ipra is recommending suspensions on old cases and the officers who are being investigated have no rights. We are 3 thousand cops short and suspending cops will just take more off the street. And our bosses bitch when we come in at the end of the night with nothing. Why should we come in with anything. Those investigators don't have our back. They would rather take the word of some shit head than the police. McNutty and his super staff can bitch all they want. Nothing is being taken from their pockets. We have to answer service calls but be very careful, these shit heads know that they can get one over on the city just by making a beaf against you or me. Call a supervisor to the scene of you'r call and let them take the hit when the complaint is made.
An old rumor that pops up with regular frequency. It started when J-Fled brought in that Rozen-earwig from California at first, then popped up again when all the civilian investigators got hired. It's surfaced almost annually for the past two or three years lately. We don't have anything to hang it on, but it's a good opportunity to remind everyone that that IPRA is not your friend, has never been your friend, and will hang you out to twist in the wind on the word of a forty-time arrested felon.
Be smart boys and girls.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
47 Comments:
on the contrary my fellow officers. Come in with an arrest or incident near the end of your tour and get what you de$erve at time and one-half.
The truth: ipra is resurrecting cases from 8 years ago, she is opening them up for more discipline, just had a case reopened, keep on working boys and girls! Also notice when the iAd crew want to give you time,how they are stalling so you cannot get retirement star and party posters approved! The old reach around strategy by the rahm mcnuts crew!
I've spoken with a labor attorney on this one and let me invite each and every one of you to SUE IPRA, Rosenwig, the investigator personally and the city if a case is sustained on just he said/she said evidence. If there is a real investigation and they have you shame on you. If they just suspend you without due cause that is illegal. We are not at will employees. If IPRA can not show due cause for putting you in a no pay status then all are liable. You want to change the system? Do the same to them as the shitheads do to us, go punative on their asses.
What are the qualifications to be an IPRA investigator? Do you have to sell shoes first, before getting in bed with the Democratic (socialist) Party?
Yes, we know. We read your bios. How stupid you people are.
Look them up online. The same way they look up all city employees online. Then just do some google research and see who these so called investigators are. You will be very unpleasantly surprised at what you find. No backgrounds in investigations, but all political hacks of the socialist, I mean democratic machine.
Disgusting.
I remember one time an IPRA investigator came to my house. It was a case that had some media attention. I asked him through the door "who are you" and when he said IPRA, I told him go back to your office and notify me properly.
Ot: Did anyone notice the message on the department intranet homepage stating that all members are only allowed to have a maximum of 240 comp time hours, and must use said comp time in a 90 day period or lose it, due to a collective bargaining agreement. Anyone know more about this?
Mongoloid didn’t bring her. Daley did. And boy-o-boy did he FUCK us with her!
She got here the last few weeks of Cline.
“Not your friend”… HA! That’s funny! She’s the epitome of “The Enemy”! She is a 110% POLICE HATER! She will fuck you any way she can. That goes for about 50% of the investigators down at IPRA. They like the Rule 14 violation. EVERYTHING they go for is 30 days or Pending Separation.
Lock you in on the Grand Jury, if you're lying, Rule 14 is the least of your worries! Rosenwig wants an Indictment!
To all of those Cops who bitched about how screwed up OPS was, well.. this is what you get!
The simple fact that this happens makes me wonder.
I don't trust IPRA any farther than I can throw a casket..
And we all know shitbirds lie.
But is IPRA getting commission for the number of cops they jam up?
All the shithead has to do is to add at the end of his or her statement, "and Burge kicked my ass too, what 'da fuck you gonna' do 'bout 'dat?" and boom, complaint sustained.
Don't do shit for the fucking animals.
IPRA and McCarthy and Rahm have your backs like the Roman Senators had Ceasar's back while looking for a place to stick their knives. The only thing that matters is to protect yourself and your family. The savages will always eat one another, you go home safely.
To all the young people just getting on this job. Even a fool can see this ship is sinking. Get off as soon as you can. I stayed too long, I'm scared about the pension and too old to start over. Not a good place to be.
Yep. That sounds about right. We wouldn't want you polices using bad language, threatening and (God forbid) giving a crack to these drug dealing, murdering thugs.
Suspensions for you. Maybe fire one or two of you a month for good measure. That'll fix things.
Wow, future brain surgeon:
Call a supervisor to the scene of you'r call and let them take the hit when the complaint is made.
Hey idiot..If you call a Supervisor to the scene and hang them out to dry, they won't hesitate in taking the complaint next time you fucking asshat. MOST supervisors do everything they can to take the jagoff out of making paper...
You must be one of the people that most of your supervisors HATE going to that request job because I'm sure you are the best polices ever...In your mind and blow everything off and someone is always covering for you...Hope they stop and let you get fired like it seems you should...
Fucking idiot.
Remember not one white shirt went down in the SOS scandal
Anonymous said...
Ot: Did anyone notice the message on the department intranet homepage stating that all members are only allowed to have a maximum of 240 comp time hours, and must use said comp time in a 90 day period or lose it, due to a collective bargaining agreement. Anyone know more about this?
3/12/2013 01:23:00 AM
I've adhered to the above policy on my own for my entire career, so I could give a rat's ass. I check the pay box on every slip and take the pay for every holiday. The only time due I get is from the holidays and I use it as much as I can.
Ot: Did anyone notice the message on the department intranet homepage stating that all members are only allowed to have a maximum of 240 comp time hours, and must use said comp time in a 90 day period or lose it, due to a collective bargaining agreement. Anyone know more about this?
3/12/2013 01:23:00 AM
It's really amazing some people hold this job... Mayr go to a reading comprehension class...and I'm not giving this person the answer..
To 1:23 it's for civilian employees
To be a IPRA investigator you just need to attend a church service on the south or west side, preferably west, to get a feel for the people and what they are suffering at the hands of the authorities who are trying to protect them from themselves. To hell with the fact that it's their own that are killing seniors, babies, teens, little children, and whomever the target of opportunity that presents itself. And they bit*h and blame everyone but the killers, who look like them. The sh*ts f*cked-up and will not change because those affected do not want to accept personal responsibility for their lives or what transpires in their neighborhoods. Blame someone else, go along to get along, and if possible, get paid. (westside resident, not a Police Officer).
Anonymous said...
Ot: Did anyone notice the message on the department intranet homepage stating that all members are only allowed to have a maximum of 240 comp time hours, and must use said comp time in a 90 day period or lose it, due to a collective bargaining agreement. Anyone know more about this?
3/12/2013 01:23:00 AM
Read it again. It doesn't apply to us dumb dumb
SCC is right that this is perennial rumor, but two statements in the original comment jump out. The first is that the "investigators don't have our back". Why would you think they would?? The "I" In IPRA stands for independent! They were never intended to have our backs. The second is that those being ivestigated "have no rights". Any labor attorney will tell you that they have a boatload of rights. This being related to the fact that IPRA is "independent". They have to justfy their means.
I believe every one should experience a few forced days off!
You will look around and notice nobody going to pay your mortgage,taxes,car notes and kid education.
You will never look at a white shirt the same way.
you may even learn to respect people and not take short cut for padding your stats.
Ot: Did anyone notice the message on the department intranet homepage stating that all members are only allowed to have a maximum of 240 comp time hours, and must use said comp time in a 90 day period or lose it, due to a collective bargaining agreement. Anyone know more about this?
Bullshit Only collective bargaining agreement can be done thru the FOP and our contract and we dont have a new one
Anonymous said...
Ot: Did anyone notice the message on the department intranet homepage stating that all members are only allowed to have a maximum of 240 comp time hours, and must use said comp time in a 90 day period or lose it, due to a collective bargaining agreement. Anyone know more about this?
3/12/2013 01:23:00 AM
Stop drinking and read it is for civilians not us!. At least not yet! When you read it also states they get to use heir time due, unlike us who are constantly denied!
Officers beware: IPRA recently hired an investigator who was arrested in the 003rd District. Melissa Knazze is her name. Don't worry, she won't have an axe to grind. It's bad enough most of their investigators hate the police. Now they have the people we lock-up investigating us as well. Go IPRA!!!
"Call a supervisor to the scene of you'r call and let them take the hit when the complaint is made."
HAHA, Really? Call a Sgt over for every decision you need to make?
What have we become??
IPRA couldn't investigate its way out of a paper bag.
Literally.
Everyone should go to IPRA's web site and look at the "monthly sustained" cases and read them. Educate yourself. WOW, are they handing out time for just simple allegations of punches and shoves etc. etc. to said victims. There are some unbelieveable stories to read. Some really dumb stuff dumb coppers did, but also some he said she said stuff that IPRA hands out time on. A few of these cases were recorded by shit heads and now coppers are taking big time for lying. Looks like IPRA especially hammers guys for cases that occurred inside the homes of shit heads. Be carefull out there guys. It's not worth it.
In regards to the question about only keeping 240 hours of comp time....that is for civilian employees, not us.
The 240 comp hours are civilian afsme union members...nothing to do with sworn.
The Investigators at OPS/IPRA have always been civilians. The only things that changed from OPS to IPRA was the name change and the Chief. Allegedly she no longer had to answer to the Police Superintendent and the Superintendent no longer had the last word on the findings of an investigation. No she's NOT your friend, it doesn't appear she's even her underlings friend.
Weiss did not choose the head of IPRA. Mayor Dlaey chose the head of IPRA.
IPRA is not part of the police department.
Just remember if any of you get jammed up on R14 that Anthony Ceja took 30 days (or less) for same. Consider it 'case law' as he set the precedence. I can say his name because it's public knowledge. On City of Chicago website under police discipline.
WHO is IPRA accountable to? NO ONE! There should be a system set up where, if IPRA screws up and recommends suspension / separation without cause, then the investigators and their supervisors should be personally liable for punitive damages. Because IPRA investigators have no true oversight or accountability, they feel they can do whatever they want.
I have been told there is a legal precedent where IPRA has a maximum of 5 years to hold onto a case and make a decision. If this is true, and IPRA is re-opening older cases, sounds like a lawuit to me.
. . . And our bosses bitch when we come in at the end of the night with nothing. Why should we come in with anything . . .
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Hey pal, just come in with bullshit.
You see about 3 dozen cars a night with no headlights or one headlight.
Do a TSSS card.
Write bullshit parking tickets.
Do a bullshit contact card on some drunk pissing on the street.
DO NOT chase anyone on foot or in a vehicle.
DO NOT do any real police shit that is proactive.
That is a lawsuit waiting to happen!!
Just go through the motions.
If a domestic battery offender runs out the back door.. grab you calf muscle and tell the piece of SHIT victim you just pulled a muscle. That goes for any piece of scum that runs from you.
It is ALL B-U-L-L-S-H-I-T ! !
Collect what is left of a pension after 20 to 29 years and a day.
Live CHEAP for now and BURY your money into your 457 plan.
THEN get the fuck out of the city of SHIT-cago forever!!!
Anonymous said...
Ot: Did anyone notice the message on the department intranet homepage stating that all members are only allowed to have a maximum of 240 comp time hours, and must use said comp time in a 90 day period or lose it, due to a collective bargaining agreement. Anyone know more about this?
3/12/2013 01:23:00 AM
This is BS because the dep. barely allows coppers to take time off as it is. So how could anyone with a lot of C-time burn up their hours in 90 days? Hell, they won't even let us extend our furloughs.
It sucks to work for this department. We can do everything by the book & still get jammed by IPRA just because someone puts in a complaint. Shit like this makes me not want to get out off my squad for any calls.
I wonder how many of the cases are involving white male officers. Maybe IPRA should be investigated for profiling instead of us. If anybody's guilty, it's IPRA.
The investigator at IPRA, Melissa Knazze who has been hired by the city, was not only arrested in 003, she also initiated a CR# against the arresting officers and their Sgt. regarding the arrest. The CR# was not sustained, which says she is a liar and does have an ax to grind. She is not impartial and needs to be removed. IPRA should not get away with this!
A correction is in order to my previous post regarding IPRA investigator Melissa Knazze's CR# on her arresting officers: the CR# was UNFOUNDED, I mistakenly stated it was not sustained. My apologies to all, especially the officers involved.
Call a supervisor to the scene and let them take the hit? I'm glad I don't work with you. You're a cowardly little panty waist.
First of all I call this as bullshit. Don't believe it. Second, you cannot sue until your administrative rights are exhausted, the grivance system that is. There are a few retired cops at IPRA and they say this is bullshit is not happening.
@ 3/13/2013 10:08:00 AM Hey Douche bag Not Sustained means they could not prove they did it or prove they did not do it. A Not Sustained is not good. (I know you changed it later but get it right). If you get a number you should want it to come back from the IPRA jerks Unfounded or Exonerated, a Not Sustained leaves you open for other things. Had a Not Sustained and it came back to bite me in the arse.
3/12/2013 01:00:00 AM They have bios? Really where?
Assclown, when I say sue them that is after all admin have run their course. And you also sue them even if you win, they put you in a bad situation, they placed undue stress upon you for starting a witch hunt, they are at fault, you are out time, potentially money and stress. They only way you get them to act professional is to force them through monetary loss. As far as your retired coppers who work there, fuck them they should have more respect for themselves than to work for a police hating outfit.
@ 3/14/2013 07:10:00 AM
Assclown, you sound like you spend more time down at IPRA, than out doing your job. The only ones that ever seem to have a problem with these guys are the ones that deserve to have a problem with them...
@5:39 pm, you couldn't be further from the truth. I have an exemplary discipline record for over two decades on this job. One thing I learned on this job is you don't go to bed with the enemy. OPS and now IPRA are the enemy any who cross the line for pay are whores in my book
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