"Violate General Orders" They Ordered
Fantastic:
- Off topic New VRI rule.
recently I was assigned to the 1800roll call VRI at 61st and racine. As usual the Lt in charge gave his nightly speech about the daily changes to VRI and you wont believe this change.
It seems that there was a shooting in one of the "boxes" and Gerogas and Pattison wanted to know where the car was that was assigned to the affected box was at during the shooting. So after Gerogas and Pattison find out that the car assigned to the box where the shooting occurred was inputting contact cards from their VRI tour the following change has been implemented.
Officers who work VRI will not be allowed to leave the "BOX" to relocate to the closest district to input contact cards initiated during VRI. Instead, Officers will instead input the VRI contact cards during their next regular tour of duty. WOW!
I recall a General Order that states, "officers will complete all reports they initiated during their tour of duty prior to the end of their tour of duty".
SO now Georgas and Pattison(kool aid drinkers) are rewriting General Orders at their whim?
YOu cant make this shit up.
Makes you wonder how these guys passed a test.
UPDATE: Paul Geiger has no opinion on this post.
UPDATE: Paul Geiger has no opinion on this post.
Labels: info for the police
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
60 Comments:
Who said that they ever passed a test? Have you ever heard of "Merit Promotions"?
Don't you mean that Paul Geiger doesn't think
much about this kerffuffel?
WHAT about all the OTHER copies you have to make??
Parkers, Movers, TSSS Cards etc?
WHAT if you have an ARREST or a TVB?
Should we wait til' the next day to do THEM??
I HAVE IT!!!!
We will just watch a movie!!
But if the order says next tour, doesn't that mean that the officer will not be in the Box at some point in the tour?
SCC I beg you to make Paul G. the new photoshop king dethroning the long standing champion the female sgt. From the midway crash.
Wasn't there a boss who said that the G.O.s were merely "guidelines"?
(a la Lisa Madigan & the 7th Circuit's decision on CCW, but I digress...)
They're guidelines only as long as they're not hunting for something with which to hang you.
rb
they got rid of the gps caboodle credentials for POs. Now only supervisors can access it.
I heard the same when I worked this past week. I also heard the L T speak of the new "vri infraction" form. Huh? A new disciplinary process outside of the established process? Whats considered an infraction? How many can one accrue and what is the punishment? Are records kept? Anybody hear any info on this?
You forgot the part where the LT repeatedly talked about getting into the car with PO's who could not find "probable cause" on anyone to write a contact card.
Whatever you do throughout your time on this job....
Never transfer to the 20th District!!!!!
I posted a comment a few weeks ago about Georges and a incident that happened in the projects. It was about a disturbance in one of the buildings while I was working CHA. He comes over the air and says "I am giving a dispersal order through out the dist, If any gang member returns arrest them off of the dispersal".
That was hilarious, if you took the class you know you can't give a dispersal throughout the whole dist.
Then the incident where he gets a CR on the cops who were working in the lobby when there was a shooting on the 9th or 10th floor.
I keep saying this guy is a bozo and some of his loved ones keep defending him. To all you idiots who love him so much, lets see you follow his stupid ass orders and see where it gets you. The guy is a stone cold idiot and has no idea about how to be a police officer or how to understand gen orders.
When you work VRI, you still get two personals and one lunch. Wait till summer when it really gets hot and all the shootings start happening. I will let you in on a TOP SECRET, Steve Georges only cares about himself and his position. Clout heavy stupid BITCH.
Seriously ???? Do you really care when the contact card gets entered?? ( unless its the 5 you need for VRI) Yeah some of the new rules suck, but VRI gas been great to a lot of us. Don't whine about something so small at a volunteer initiative. Don't like it, don't sign up to work it
This sounds strangely like Iraq's constant change of ROE - Rules Of Engagement.
It depends on who's on duty and what lawyer they heard last...
Paul Geiger
Really! Your working overtime and your being told to enter the contact cards at your next tour so that you can be in your box longer who cares. Your making good money stop your bitching. You start making problems their going to scale it back and many of us will being losing money. They aren't asking you to break a law, and I'm sure you always turn in every report on time!
So it sounds to me like the "contact card" thing actually caused this murder. LOL, Interesting. To all my fellow boys and girls dressed in blues on your RDOs I highly recommend starting a business or doing something not related to LEO. I make so much more money with my biz and don't have so stroke bag LT yelling at me on my RDOs. I used to work RDOs doing the DUI task force and got into with a big, fat, slob LT over there and it was the best thing that happened to me. Haven't looked back since and make my normal police pay on my RDOs. Do something guys. You can do it.
So why let greed fuel your work? Don't do VRI. Force the city to hire, instead of doing band-aid work.
And coppers will keep selling their souls for the "easy" money. Wake up people, your short term gain is going to be everyone's long term hurt.
If you want to take their "easy" money and help Rahm and Mctool stick it to us stop your bitching and drink the cool aid.
P.S. General Orders can be over ridden by an exempt member.
100% Knucklehead, over-promoted, Merit, Spaghetti heads!
This is a guy we generate activity for!
Well, what happens at the end of the tour, when I go home?
When a "Felon Gangmember" gets shot and killed in a stupid box, we won't be allowed to go home now?
Hey stupid Georgas, you will never stop these assholes from shooting and killing each other!
Then again in the long run, taxpayers save money because these chumps of mayhem will be dead!
Da Pelon
Anonymous said...
SCC I beg you to make Paul G. the new photoshop king dethroning the long standing champion the female sgt. From the midway crash.
3/15/2013 01:39:00 AM
Before going to the comments in this thread, I had the exact same thought when I read the SCC update: "Paul Geiger has no opinion on this post."
Geiger, Geiger, Geiger!
I am amazed with the Lts on this job. They want to play commanding officer of a watch, a unit, a section, division, a team and they want to talk and act like they can crush you....they act as if they know everything.......they talk about their patrol days and how much they did....when they really didn't do shit ........they stand there talking about stories that they read in the arrest que......they didn't arrest nobody ......how embarrassing.......kf......you should ashamed .......I knew u in 013 and u were known for chasing a beer with a shot and cuffing yourself to a barstool.......tell those stories you hack......tell about how u and big boy (hey yo this! while grabbing his crotch) crashed .the wrong house and scared the life of the 99 year. ... old great grandma........you two made clowns of the team.....and dino saves u both.......yeah we know about u and dino ......your nasty.....yet
when it comes to VRI they coward about who has the responsibility for real police work....go drink ur starbucks and leave honnor and pride about ones job to those who have pride and honnor in their job.....maybe you should learn ur job first Lt. then you can comment about us dogs in patrol.....the samedogs who know what to do at a shooting....oh yeah here is ur three contact cards....your welcome asshat.
e dogs who know what to do at a shooting.......
Who said that they ever passed a test? Have you ever heard of "Merit Promotions"?
Moral of the story, your dumb on so many levels for working VRI. Chase the carrots morons, good boy now rollover.
To 3/15/2013 05:52:00 AM
Please elaborate
What good is contact card info that is 24, 48 or 72 hrs or more old?
Do the "supervisors" in my assigned district want me inputting info from my VRI tour on their time. Shouldn't I be on the street "working" for them?
Does my VRI activity show up in my District activity?
Anonymous said...
You forgot the part where the LT repeatedly talked about getting into the car with PO's who could not find "probable cause" on anyone to write a contact card.
3/15/2013 04:14:00 AM
Please explain to the Lt in charge that it's REASONABLE ARTICULABLE SUSPICION not PROBABLE CAUSE.
just ask jr she was there blahhhhhhhhaaaa another merit hack
Ok. I am confused! When do we enter it?
What a bunch of cry babies. Sit in your box and make the time and a half. Copy the activity when you go in. You're supposed to work 8 1/2 anyway.
Anonymous said...
Who said that they ever passed a test? Have you ever heard of "Merit Promotions"?
3/15/2013 12:05:00 AM
Everytime you don't agree with a decision some exempt makes, they're "merit." Like them or not, Patterson & Georgas both made lieutenant off the list. Yet when your buddy makes sgt. merit, it's "a great move." You can't have it both ways, asshole. Grow up ...
You're killing them in OT and yet you still bitch!?
Grow up pussywimp.
Nothing new. Ron Sodini wrote his own general orders when he was commander of 012.
Maybe you should stop working VRI since your morals are getting corrupted. Idiot
What will it take to make YOU happy?
I know your kind. You never did shit before but complain you can't Police like "we" used to.
You complain about morale yet never attended a watch/Christmas/bowling party or even wave when you pass a fellow officer.
Maybe the problem is you. It's easy money you retard.
Anonymous said...
Whatever you do throughout your time on this job....
Never transfer to the 20th District!!!!!
3/15/2013 05:52:00 AM
WHAT YOU MEANS??!!
2 of the 'best' bossses to ever work CPD
Penny and JJ
hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!
Wasn't there a boss who said that the G.O.s were merely "guidelines"?
(a la Lisa Madigan & the 7th Circuit's decision on CCW, but I digress...)
Then they should have called them GENERAL GUIDELINES instead of GENERAL "ORDERS". I take "ORDERS" to mean something I have to follow.
I say that's fine and use ur district or unit beat number instead....when the vri contact cards are down the can wonder why...I have been doing that for a while now anyway
So if I'm on furlo it might be 30 days before a contact card is entered. How does that help a detective solve a murder in a timly fashion?
America
Georgas? Sorry to generalize but has there ever been a good Greek policeman other than Kojak?
If Patton was here, he would slap sme faces.
So if I'm on furlo it might be 30 days before a contact card is entered. How does that help a detective solve a murder in a timly fashion?
When has a contact card ever helped a detective solve a murder in a timely fashion, never
Georgas was in the Mauer "study" group. Better than merit. Just given the answers.
Everytime you don't agree with a decision some exempt makes, they're "merit." Like them or not, Patterson & Georgas both made lieutenant off the list. Yet when your buddy makes sgt. merit, it's "a great move." You can't have it both ways, asshole. Grow up ...
They very well did make it rank order...AFTER BEING SPOON FED THE ANSWERS, just like when they made sergeant.
And if you believe otherwise, ASSHOLE, you are the one with serious problems
Really! Your working overtime and your being told to enter the contact cards at your next tour so that you can be in your box longer who cares. Your making good money stop your bitching. You start making problems their going to scale it back and many of us will being losing money. They aren't asking you to break a law, and I'm sure you always turn in every report on time!
Your missing the point. The bigger issue trying to be highlighted, which you somehow missed, is the hypocrisy of the command structure her at cpd. Now runn along little sheepie and watch out for the wolves.
It's pretty sad that the person who submitted the original post about Georgas and Patterson can't even spell their names correctly. I'd be afraid to even look at what he wrote down on his/her contact cards! Pathetic...
If working in 020 is so f'n bad...leave! Put in your PAR forms immediately! I dare ya!
Passed what test?
"Paul Geiger"
Never heard of him. Tell me more!
Does my VRI activity show up in my District activity?
Not until you're in federal court.
2:37 PM
Yes. Mark Thanasouras. Unsolved murder in 020. Got any leads? It could have been either the outfit or a police boss. Thanasouras had a whole lot of enemies. I did not do it.
Wait, with the new VRI infraction report they may starting diciplining POs for bullshit. I know a sgt I worked for a week ago got reamed out because his cars were in with ARRESTS and he had to leave paper why his boxes weren't covered. If he's leaving paper (at least that's what he said and based on the roll call bullshit from Lt PK I don't doubt it), how soon before the BS trickles down to the blueshirts?
The number one and two on that Lt's list did not get the answers from Maurer, per se. They did get the scenarios for the oral which is the next best thing.
Ironically the car who did absolutely nothing and therefore had no reason to make copies stays on their box and gets no ridicule. Meanwhile the guys who at the least attempted to make it appear they are working are crucified and probably not assigned again. Sounds familier, incompetence and laziness gets the reward while the people pulling the wagon are hung out to dry. Welcome to the CPD, a microcosm of the good ole U.S. of A.
My money says a copper, not a boss did Mark Thanasouras. I didn't do it either.
They did get the scenarios for the oral which is the next best thing.
3/16/2013 10:46:00 AM
oh, the things i could do with this sentence....
They got the entire test. Ever hear of the Round Table? Didn't think so.
Anonymous said...
You forgot the part where the LT repeatedly talked about getting into the car with PO's who could not find "probable cause" on anyone to write a contact card.
3/15/2013 04:14:00 AM
Had a Sgt. ride with me to find movers for me. Felony arrests weren't good enough.
That lasted about 50 mins. He ordered me to drop him off at the station. And never mentioned it again.
I guess that near-death driving experience and the traffic stop with 4 gang bangers did it.
Make lemonade from lemons, guys. And have some fun doing it.
Anonymous said...
Ironically the car who did absolutely nothing and therefore had no reason to make copies stays on their box and gets no ridicule. Meanwhile the guys who at the least attempted to make it appear they are working are crucified and probably not assigned again. Sounds familier, incompetence and laziness gets the reward while the people pulling the wagon are hung out to dry. Welcome to the CPD, a microcosm of the good ole U.S. of A.
3/16/2013 02:16:00 PM
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This is a very perceptive point. And not too many people understand how this organization works. Also, the more work that you do, the more work that they are going to dump on you.
If working in 020 is so f'n bad...leave! Put in your PAR forms immediately! I dare ya!
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You are not too bright. You need openings or very heavy clout (higher than a commander) to move.
Anonymous said...
Georgas? Sorry to generalize but has there ever been a good Greek policeman other than Kojak?
3/15/2013 02:37:00 PM
Nestor (LEFTY) Chakonas. Commander of 024 from 1981 - 1987, then commander of 016 from 1987 - 1991. One of the nicest people you'd ever want to meet. Never hurt a copper.
Lefty never hurt a copper? You might want to ask Dave K .
about that one. I never before heard anybody refer to Lefty as a policeman. He wasn't.
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