Tuesday, May 07, 2013

Dart's Fantasy Land

Seldom has a politician laid his complete and utter detachment from reality out there were everyone can see it, but Dart doesn't disappoint. He saw the need for a completely out-of-touch and ignorant politician to say something completely stupid and he nailed it:
  • Sheriff Tom Dart said Sunday that he is proposing a concealed-carry gun ordinance to keep Cook County from becoming the “Wild West.”
Really? Because we kind of figured after last year, it already was. And continues to be as 2013 matches 2011 almost homicide for homicide.
  • Dart said he’s worried about a stalemate in the General Assembly on a law to license people to carry concealed guns. If legislators don’t meet a June 9 court deadline to pass such a law, anyone with a state firearm owner’s identification card could legally walk anywhere in public with a concealed weapon, Dart said.
Well thank goodness we got that out of the way.  We were wondering what the ramifications might be if nothing got passed and here's Dart giving everyone with an FOID permission to carry concealed. Thanks Tom. We're sure the lawyers at Corp Counsel are going to be in meetings tomorrow along with Rahm trying to "walk-back" your statement. That means a whole bunch of bad decisions, overturned by the Courts and probably a bunch of tax money going to pay Second Amendment groups again.
  • “We would have the Wild West,” he said. “There would be no regulation.”
What a stupid statement. We don't see any of this happening in any of the other 49 states with some form of Concealed Carry and Illinois has the strictest gun laws in the nation. What is it about Illinois politicians who assume everyone who lives here is an asshole with no self control, no conflict resolution skills and no sense of responsibility? If he limited that description to the south and west sides of Chicago, we'd understand. But he just sounds like a complete dumbass here.
  • Dart’s ordinance would give him the power to approve and reject licenses to carry concealed guns in Cook County. Applicants would have to pay a $300 fee for a license.
Ah, Mein Führer, we had wondered where you had gotten to. He proposes a law that would give him the power to decide whether or not you are able to defend yourself and your home from criminals....criminals who have shown no inclination to abide by the rules of society in any case. Makes perfect sense! And charging $300 for a Right guaranteed by the Constitution? Ain't liberalism grand?
  • Dart said he thinks the ordinance would apply not only to Cook County suburbs, but also to the city of Chicago in the absence of a state law governing concealed carrying of guns.

    Chicago Police spokesman Adam Collins said: “If a statewide law is not passed, the city is preparing to implement a comprehensive concealed-carry ordinance to ensure that guns stay out of the hands of criminals.”
Gee Mr. Collins, who are you taking your cues from? Presumably, you see how well Chicago's anti-gun laws are keeping guns from the hands of criminals. We think 010 Tact killed one yesterday. 16 years old, wasn't he? But a record a mile long and shooting up North Lawndale in broad daylight. We don't know you Officer, but you're obviously a tool of the highest order.
  • The NRA and other gun-rights advocates would like to see legislation that authorizes concealed-carry licenses for anyone who undergoes the necessary training and passes a background check. Those are commonly called “shall issue” licenses.

    But Dart and other gun-control activists want to retain more control over who gets the licenses and where gun owners can carry their weapons in public. Those are called “may issue” licenses.

    Under Dart’s proposed “may issue” ordinance, he would grant licenses only to people who demonstrate a need to carry a firearm for protection.

    Dart said he recently spoke to elderly people in the south suburbs. They complained that the police were unresponsive. Some said they were regularly burglarized while they attended church.

    “It’s a matter of timing,” Dart said, noting that those people could have become homicide victims if they came home during a burglary.
The first honest statement in the article - "retain more control." Gun Control is about people control, not guns. You already see how well they're keeping guns off the street. Now imagine a government bureaucracy, not just any bureaucracy, but one run by Cook County. Sharon Dixon gets a gun but your wife riding the El overnight doesn't. Farakhan's son gets a gun, but a nurse making house calls in the ghetto doesn't. Some political contributor gets a gun, but your parents who have watched their neighborhood change into a shithole can't even take the garbage out because of the gangs confronting them in their own alley.

Dart is a nanny-state asshole, purporting to know better than you do about your circumstances dictating where and how you will be allowed to defend yourself should the need ever arise. But he's part and parcel of the same system that throws up paper roadblocks in front of criminals and lets Anita and Toni empty out his jail of hardcore felons.

UPDATE: Collins isn't an officer evidently, he's a hack from the Obama campaign sent here to do Rahm's bidding.

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100 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

what are 3d printed guns going to be considered in this law? there is a roadblock to june 9 legislation. ...

5/07/2013 12:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This is why the more and more police get indoctrinated by this BS fear mongering theory of wild-west gun BS. Look at New York, and other 49 states that passed a conceal carry law in recent years . While our crime went up theirs went down! look at fbi.gov and all the websites recommended by this blog you took an oath . You need to remember this a support all. What will your wife do if your working at VRI and needs to go downtown on EL or thru bad neighborhoods. As we all know criminals don;t respect good areas , thats were they come to do their apple picking burglaries robberies ect...

5/07/2013 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Reason for CCW permit request:

1: I live in Chicago.

2: See the second amendment for clarification.

5/07/2013 12:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What the pols don't realize if a CCW law is not passed is that Illinois will have Constitutional Carry. That means CCW or exposed. Wisconsin has both and that state has not turned into the Wild West shootout that libs claim will happen. And how does a $300 fee keep guns out of the hands of criminals? Since when do criminals pay fees to shoot up the streets of Chicago? The pols and police brass must be smoking the same dope that is used in Colorado.

5/07/2013 12:29:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mighty big of him to decide whether or not you are worthy to exercise your constitutional rights, and charge you $300.00 to do so.
What a pompus asshole. Move to New York and hang with that fuck Bloomberg while you're at it.

5/07/2013 12:31:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr Dart. You are an elected official who's office is part of the executive branch of the government. You only have the power.....wait, no the responsibility... to enforce the the laws of the legislative branch of the government. Your responsibility is not to create new laws. If you want to do that then you will need to be elected to an office in that branch of government.

5/07/2013 12:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

all 3 of these incompetents,dart prickwinkle and alvarez can burn in hell

5/07/2013 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

There was a Cook County Republican Sheriff in the 60's named Joe Woods. He won election with the motto 'Crime never sleeps, and neither will I.' Apparently Dart spends his time dreaming.

5/07/2013 12:41:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI Mr Dart. Power is generated, Responsibility is delegated. You've been delegated a responsibility by the people who elected you. You have no power, on a responsibility.

5/07/2013 12:47:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It might just be time for a little revolution. No tyrant can keep Americans from enjoying their God given, Constitutional rights.

5/07/2013 01:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well he sure helped CPD when they were calling 10-1s and ISP in riot gear trying to cool off i the County building during the Nato protests. Just ask him!

5/07/2013 02:27:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Off topic but I was watching the video of the St Jude parade and was surprised to see a female P.O. Talking on her cell phone while marching in formation. (YouTube) I must be confused because I always thought we as police officers March at St Jude to honor our fallen officers. Boy was I wrong, it's so we don't have to stand inspection back at the unit. wtf if your gonna be that disrespectful towards our fallen heros maybe you should stay home next time.

5/07/2013 02:33:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart is a "never was the police" asst states atty that likes playing cops and robbers. Who votes for these assholes?

5/07/2013 03:17:00 AM  
Blogger Paul Huebl Crimefile News said...

That $300.00 fee would be no more legal than a poll tax. Wait a minute perhaps a $300.00 pol tax would change the elections! Let's do it!

5/07/2013 03:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You used a lot of words.
Words are beginning to appear in effective.

5/07/2013 03:40:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

FYI SSC, Adam Collins isn't an "Officer" at all. He's the new director of news affairs who's 30 years old, about 5'2", and a real snappy dresser (if you get the hint). He was a gift to the Dept from the Obama Campaign and has zero LE background.

5/07/2013 05:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Fuck Chicago.


Dart is simply submitting to Preckwinkle and rolling on the ground, hoping he is allowed to keep some patronage.

5/07/2013 05:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Dart is just brainwashed because he hangs around losers all day at the jail. He thinks that's how all society acts. Dart never takes vacations to get out of the liberal bubble and see how normal people live .

Concealed carry is coming to Chicago and cook county no matter what . Illinois is so stupid they will end up having to settle lawsuits files by people convicted of gun carry violations.. ghetto lottery x 1000.

5/07/2013 05:37:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good article.....I agree......Also, when is Dart going to get rid of that old Mt. Carmel sweatshirt....he wears it everyday. Show some professionalism. Maybe he could also get a haircut once in awhile. Just sayn.

5/07/2013 06:23:00 AM  
Blogger SpankDaddy said...

Would he issue a permit to Gacy?

5/07/2013 06:30:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

SCC,Tell it like it is.

5/07/2013 06:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wild west? Why Chicago already is like the wild west.

5/07/2013 06:42:00 AM  
Blogger Big Daddy said...

All true and he will be the next Mayor of Chicago if the Democratic machine decides to slate him. The sheep in Chicago will vote for whomever they are told to vote for.

5/07/2013 07:05:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart should concentrate on his Gay life instead of worrying about keeping guns from good citizens of Crook County.

5/07/2013 07:22:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

“It’s a matter of timing,” Dart said, noting that those people could have become homicide victims if they came home during a burglary."

What a buffoon. It's a matter of "timing", so CookCo residents are supposed to be able to prove to him ahead of time that they will be confronting a burglar in their home at some specific future date? Idiot.

5/07/2013 07:24:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I am looking forward to reading about the first law bidding citizen that defends himself against one of these super predators and sends him/her packing for a dirt nap.

5/07/2013 07:26:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What is it about Illinois politicians who assume everyone who lives here is an asshole with no self control, no conflict resolution skills and no sense of responsibility?


You just described every IL politician. They only know what they know. And they know that everyone in their world is an unscrupulous cheat and liar.

5/07/2013 07:35:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...

Off topic but I was watching the video of the St Jude parade and was surprised to see a female P.O. Talking on her cell phone while marching in formation. (YouTube) I must be confused because I always thought we as police officers March at St Jude to honor our fallen officers. Boy was I wrong, it's so we don't have to stand inspection back at the unit. wtf if your gonna be that disrespectful towards our fallen heros maybe you should stay home next time.

5/07/2013 02:33:00 AM

The same went in my district. In my unit there were multiple officers talking and texting on their phones. When the officer said "eyes left", I looked left at the stand and I noticed the majority couldn't even do that simple of a task. Are we that shallow? Are we that feeble minded?

5/07/2013 07:42:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

And yet the public keeps on voting for these Democrats. Keep voting Democratic.

The Dems are now seeking exemptions for the Obama care law they passed.

5/07/2013 07:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What is it about Illinois politicians who assume everyone who lives here is an asshole with no self control, no conflict resolution skills and no sense of responsibility?"

Because the people of Illinois who elected them ARE ASSHOLES!

5/07/2013 08:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Collins, like Rose Sprinkle (yes, that really is her name, and no, she's not a porn star) are throwaway's from the Obama campaign. A couple of youngsters who were promised "real" jobs when their work to get Barry re-elected was over. Oh, Sprinkle? Never heard of her? She's our new Assistant Director of Human Relations. What, we never had an Assistant Director of Human Relations? Well, we do now.

5/07/2013 08:10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

$300 fee?? Like the other poster said, the poll tax was eliminated nationwide about 50 years ago.

The term the Courts use is "reasonable". $300 isn't

We must not settle for anything but "shall issue"

Dianne Feinstein got one of 6 concealed permits in San Francisco years back,,,I guess she knew somebody

5/07/2013 08:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"No tyrant can keep Americans from enjoying their God given, Constitutional rights."


Not according to your presidents speech to Ohio St. grads last weekend;

- from USA Today - He criticized attacks on government, telling students to reject the voices who say "tyranny is always lurking just around the corner."

"We have never been a people who place all our faith in government to solve our problems ... but we don't think the government is the source of all our problems, either."

In reference to recent Senate vote on gun control, Obama said indifference by citizens is "how a small minority of lawmakers get cover to defeat something the vast majority of their constituents want."

Well said, Mr. President. We have just such a small majority of lawmakers here in Illinois, limiting the majorities rights.

5/07/2013 08:28:00 AM  
Blogger Rough&Tumble White Guy with a Basic Education said...

And charging $300 for a Right guaranteed by the Constitution? Ain't liberalism grand?

===


Sure is. Imagine if they charged a $300 fee for an abortion?

Oh my!

5/07/2013 08:51:00 AM  
Anonymous Giv Mo-Fo a Job said...

UPDATE: Collins isn't an officer evidently, he's a hack from the Obama campaign sent here to do Rahm's bidding.

____

You gotta love it.

These HACKS could never get a job in the REAL world.

Just like Ladner in Human Resources . .
keep sucking the tit of the taxpayer.
Disgusting.

5/07/2013 08:59:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It seems like the plan to over tax the poor working middle class.
This would only hurt the poor who are already vistims at a higher rate than Darts posh buddies. I'm sure they will have no problem getting permits in crook county.

5/07/2013 09:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

We should be so lucky if Chi, Crook County, and IL did turn into 'The Wild West' -- it was a whole lot safer there.

Contrary to Hollywood myth the 'Gun Fight' and 'Show Down' was very very rare. 'Wild Bill' Hickok had one of few true one's, it was in Springfield, MO in 1865 (one heck of shot too, from 75yds with his .36 cal Navy Colt). Then the famous Gunfight at the OK Coral. That was pretty much due to the corrupt Cochise County Sheriff (a Dem, shock) protecting the Cattle Rustling Clanton Gang, against Tombstone's Town Administration (Republican) and the Earp's -- also Republicans. Sure there were the assorted psycho mass murders but Cook County and Chicago can more than match them, like ten to one with today's degenerate gang-bangers. Who start whacking people much younger than 'Billy The Kid' did.

(An armed society is a polite society)

5/07/2013 09:12:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, Mr. Dart, Come To Some Type Of Mature Decision, On What To Do About Your Hair. In My Opinion, A Mature Man, Should Come To Grips With The Reality That His Hair Is No Longer What It Once Was. He Must Now Cut In Short, and Keep In Neat and Trim, or "Get A Decent Hairpiece"!
If You Don't Know What To Do About Your Hair, You Have No Business, Telling Others, What To Do With Their Guns.

5/07/2013 09:23:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

You can delegate authority but you cannot delegate responsibility.
Sgt school 101

5/07/2013 09:44:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Prekwinkle just has to keep a gun out of her gangbanger sob's hand.

5/07/2013 09:46:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart will use this proposed CCW law to create more political hack jobs. Directors, Asst. Directors, Asst to the Asst. Director. & so on......

5/07/2013 09:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look lets not fool ourselves.....Dart is merely a tool of Prickwinkle thats it!!!! He was deballed as soon as he was elected Sheriff.

5/07/2013 09:55:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart's a pussy POS. Now he is going after bloggers that work for the sheriff. He thinks he's god/

5/07/2013 09:58:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart might be one of the few people in public office more arrogant than Emanuel

5/07/2013 10:02:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart is a "never was the police" asst states atty that likes playing cops and robbers. Who votes for these assholes?

5/07/2013 03:17:00 AM

Uh, how about the other always reliable democrat voting bloc-the Irish.

5/07/2013 10:15:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

What do you expect in a town where if the owner of Chic-Fil-A says his religious beliefs are opposed to homosexuality, even though he does not discriminate against them at the workplace, the strongman midget dictator of Chicago and his alder fool try to block a business license.

In this town, you can't express your First Amendment rights, so why should you expect to exercise your Second Amendment rights?

This is who you fools vote for when you vote Democrat socialist. They want this to be North Korea where you beg the government for food and sing the praises of the glorious leader.

Some cultures are accustomed to chains and slavery and gladly embrace them for a government handout, but free men certainly do not.

5/07/2013 10:46:00 AM  
Anonymous W.H. Thompson said...

With 86 shot and killed plus another 458 wounded so far this year, the actual "wild west" never had a body count like this. The "wild west" would be preferable.

Also, with last week in the bag, we're exactly where we were in 2011 - 105 vs 105. Again, 2012 being the outlier at 169. Now, if one cares to subtract the 4 CPD-related homicides, we're at 101 vs 105.

If budgetary numbers are out there, we'd like to put an ROI on the recent body count reduction initiatives.

Illustrating Chicago's Murders, Homicides, Violence and Idiocy at heyjackass.com

5/07/2013 10:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Please, please I want to be a party to one of these law suits. The mongrel nannies of Chicago and Crook County still trying their damnest to limit a constitutional right

5/07/2013 11:17:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is it always the short guys ???

5/07/2013 11:33:00 AM  
Blogger John Northen said...

If you'd like to know how this concealed carry legislation will shake out in Chicago and County CRook, you need look no further than New York City.

Click on the following with particular attention to the LINKS provided in Post Nos. 28 and 33:

CONCEALED CARRY IN NYC: Only Millionaire$ and the Politically-Connected Need Apply.

A substantive increase in the number of "campaign contribution" donor$ will be enthusiastically welcomed by Democratic politicians. After all, it is "the Chicago Way".
(quid pro quo)

5/07/2013 12:51:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who the hell is this ELECTED person to impede our 2nd amendant rights. He sounds just as stupid as the CPD boss.

5/07/2013 12:59:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2cX85u57teE
Please post this. It is a great video of the Nra and judge Jeanine Pirro

5/07/2013 01:18:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I heard part of an interview on wls yesterday afternoon. That a*hole was saying the FOID system is broke because it take too long to get one, then says he wants a CCW applicant to go to 40 hours of safety classes. But you would have to prove you need a ccw. Total BS, politicians going to decide who gets one ( just more cash under the table)

5/07/2013 01:24:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It's always the least knowledgeble people who have the most to say.TO coin a phrase from SNL, "Dart you slut". You and the rest of IL. politicians quit trying to make us second class citizens who are not responsible enough to to purchase and learn how to use a weapon. All you have to do is look at some of the people weapons are issued to and you can make a case for this.

5/07/2013 01:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Im not paying for my 2nd amendment right. They forget its a right. They can shove that $300 up their ass.

5/07/2013 01:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Another democRatic tax on the working man , want a gun it'll cost ya $500.00

drug dealers, gang bangers carry for free , they don't need no stinkin concealed carry permit

keep voting these blood suckers in

5/07/2013 02:03:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WASHINGTON - Gun control forces are targeting Sens. Kelly Ayotte, Max Baucus and others as they struggle to persuade five senators to switch their votes and revive the rejected effort to expand background checks to more firearms buyers.

http://www.gopusa.com/news/2013/05/07/gun-control-advocates-struggle-to-keep-issue-alive/?subscriber=1

5/07/2013 02:04:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wtf if your gonna be that disrespectful towards our fallen heros maybe you should stay home next time.

5/07/2013 02:33:00 AM

As our sgt. inspected the ranks at St. Jude, he came upon chatty-kathy on her cell phone yacking nonesense to someone. He tells her to put the phone on silent and pocket it. With the phone still at her ear, she snaps back that she is on her own time. He had balls. Told her to put it away or go home. She complied, but mother-effed him after he walked away. She is one classy-lady. And useless on the street.

5/07/2013 02:04:00 PM  
Blogger Rob Crawford said...

What is it about Illinois politicians who assume everyone who lives here is an asshole with no self control, no conflict resolution skills and no sense of responsibility?

They spend most of their time around other politicians.

5/07/2013 02:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

wrt: Police release sketch of man in Edgewater bus stop sex assault

====================================

Sketch?

Whatsthematter with the camera's?

5/07/2013 02:41:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wild West as if....

(youtube) Spinning Six Shooter drunk in my iron man underwear

5/07/2013 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Abdul Khalid Jones said...

Oh, hell no!!we can't have the wild west in Cook county.Keep up the good work Tom,you too Garry.

5/07/2013 02:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

OT: Chicago Gas Prices.

We're still number one!

CHICAGO (CBS) — While the rest of the country, including Hawaii, enjoys the lowest springtime gas prices in three years, Chicago is leading the nation with the highest

Refinery problems, distribution problems, they're switching to summer blend, no they're switching to winter blend this and that bullshit -- the price goes up.

Take a short drive south out of the metro area and gas is a dollar cheaper. You gonna tell me a refinery outage doesn't affect Shelbyville for example -- it only affects Chicago?

Take any of the excuses that we are given and ask yourself the same question.

Why should Chicago politicians give a shit when they are cashing in on the gas tax. road tax, use tax, sales tax.

If there is a shortage why should the price only be affected in Chicago by a dollar.

How much more are you going to take Chicago?

5/07/2013 03:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the liberal Dems are so far into fantasy, they should be performing at Disneyworld; and speaking of fantasy, the chair of the Congressional Black Caucus asks for leniency for JJJ Jr., saying that he was very entertaining at karaoke nights....

5/07/2013 03:42:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...


Gun control is all about protecting the established empire.

If conceal carry is allowed in Chicago crime just might go down and that will mean budget cuts to not just CPD but to the ISP and the prison system. Judges, courts and lawyers business will drop off if crime drops. Cash flows will be diverterd away from the clouted ones scope of influence. How in the world will city officials be able to use fear as a motivator to increase taxes because they are concerned for our safety if the crime rate goes down?

It's about power. They want the people to be dependent on the system

If conceeal cary in Chicago is allowed it will hurt economic growth measured as our GDP -- people take responsibility for themselves and the collateral effects of not knowing who may shoot back takes effect for everyone.

5/07/2013 03:52:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

7:05...

Wrong.

Preckwinkle is the next mayor.

24 mos. and 1 wk. to go.

5/07/2013 04:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Like ALL elected officials in Illinois, Dart swore to an oath to uphold the US Constitution.

He isn't doing that so why isn't he removed from Office? For that matter, there are several more politicians in Illinois doing the same thing - not upholding the Constitution.

Where is the CCSAO? Where is the State's Attorney General? How come they are not taking any action?

Oh, they are of the same cluelessness on these issues.

Why do they keep getting elected? Are there that many brain-dead citizens in Illinois?

I guess so.

5/07/2013 04:36:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

http://www.npr.org/blogs/thetwo-way/2013/05/07/181998015/rate-of-u-s-gun-violence-has-fallen-since-1993-study-says

Oh wait... didnt BHO say that gun crime is up? How about Joe Say it aint so Biden.

Asshat liars.

5/07/2013 04:55:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think Dart's unfairly maligning the Wild West. In the Wild West, people used guns in shootouts and duels, which required substantial skill and courage. Here and now, the people shooting guns are mentally-deficient drive-by cowards. Chicago could never become "the Wild West" - we don't have the right populace for it. If the people who are issued concealed carry permits pull their guns, the bad guys aren't going to shoot back - they're going to run away like cowards generally do. And eventually they'll become quite reluctant to trigger any confrontation that may include physical and mental opposition.

5/07/2013 06:45:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This issue was brought up during our roll call. I was just shocked at how many p.o.'s were against ccw. Another shocking fact was that those same p.o.'s do not even answer jobs. What is it with dog ass coppers who are against ccw? You won't be meeting them anyway. Every other state is doing fine with ccw, why not illinois? Dumb ass leaders have been afraid of individuals with firearms throughout the history. Do some of us support dumb ass leaders? Unfortunately it was very obvious in roll call that some of us do. Sad. Very sad.

5/07/2013 06:49:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Who made Dart GOD? He should be locked up in that jail and the air force should send in the B52s.

5/07/2013 06:57:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It was in the 80s" when the sheriff of the time used to sell sheriff badges to the clouted.

The fee was 5000$$$ and the person would be a sheriff able to carry a gun anywhere.

These clouted sheriff would act like they were real police.

I know because my uncle still has his.

But the New improved Sheriff would never sell concealed permits to bar owner and mentals.

5/07/2013 07:39:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

WTF. Boston Mayor doesn't want Bomber Boy buried in Boston but in Chicago we bury the BIGGEST THIEVES-SHORTSHANKS AND HIS WIFE- here and build a 55 million park in her corrupt name. HUH?

5/07/2013 07:54:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Bureau of Justice Statistics: Gun Homicides Down by 39 Percent
May 07, 2013


http://m.townhall.com/tipsheet/katiepavlich/2013/05/07/bureau-of-justice-statistics-gun-homicides-down-by-39-percent-n1590416

5/07/2013 08:06:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Mr. Dart on Channel 11 last month referred to the Cook County Jail as "my jail" in a discussion about jail overcrowding. But lets review his career in enforcing the laws for tax paying citizens of Cook County. He avoided carrying out evictions, he digs up indigent people in paupers graves in Homewood, then the numerous puppy mills he rescued, how about giving he-shes locked up at the jail the choice of who they should be housed with, rescuing whores off the street, going after Craigs List, and now he wants to go back to making new laws when he doesn't enforce the ones that are already there.

5/07/2013 08:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart may be in Fantasy Land over at the county, but he is in the county. Mayor Rahmie was out fly fishing this week. How many vacations has Rahm taken while the city falls apart? Skiing, Beaches, now fishing. No wonder "fail" is his middle name.

5/07/2013 08:29:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dart is not only a nanny-state asshole, he's an all out pansy and has no business in law enforcement. He's an embarrassment to ALL leo's.

ISP Sgt.

5/07/2013 08:33:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They do it right in Illinois, not the other 49 states, If only they did it like we do it here, they would be in great shape...

5/07/2013 08:47:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anonymous said...
OT: Chicago Gas Prices.

We're still number one!

CHICAGO (CBS) — While the rest of the country, including Hawaii, enjoys the lowest springtime gas prices in three years, Chicago is leading the nation with the highest

Refinery problems, distribution problems, they're switching to summer blend, no they're switching to winter blend this and that bullshit -- the price goes up.

Take a short drive south out of the metro area and gas is a dollar cheaper. You gonna tell me a refinery outage doesn't affect Shelbyville for example -- it only affects Chicago?

Take any of the excuses that we are given and ask yourself the same question.

Why should Chicago politicians give a shit when they are cashing in on the gas tax. road tax, use tax, sales tax.

If there is a shortage why should the price only be affected in Chicago by a dollar.

How much more are you going to take Chicago?

5/07/2013 03:39:00 PM


Man, you're not crapping the highest! I paid $4.25 at Costco in Chicago! Cheaper everywhere else in the lower 48, dear old Chicago, we pay through the nose to live in this shithole.

5/07/2013 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

It doesnt take all that long to get a FOID. This Dart guy should get thrown out by his own department. CCPD has suffered enough under this fool. Why is it the most lame and unprofessional people run CCPD and CPD. Damn if we had some real police running these departments we would have a safe city and county.

5/07/2013 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

NY and gun permits


The Upshot got a hold of the 445-page list of New York City residents who carry concealed weapons. Among the notable names: Fox News chairman Roger Ailes, Fox News personality Sean Hannity, Howard Stern, Don Imus, Donald Trump and Donald Trump Jr., and Estee Lauder heir Ron Lauder. Back in 2008, City Room found that there were over 2,200 "full carry" licenses, which are for residents "who have demonstrated a specific need to carry a holstered handgun on their persons. The category includes people who have received threats or who regularly handle large amounts of cash."

http://gothamist.com/2010/08/06/unsurprising_list_of_new_yorkers_wh.php

5/07/2013 09:35:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thanks SCC for pointing out that Anita, Toni, and Quinn are allowing (and encourages it!) the countless release of felons on a daily basis allowing them to continually victimize our communities. It sickens me that they do this and idiot citizens keep voting for these idiots. The early release of criminals is the sad reflection of our corrupt politicians in a corrupt city, county, and state. But yet the police are always blamed for the problems of society when they are the responsible for their capture of these savages, but yet these pathetic politicians put them back on the street with zero to little prison time.

5/07/2013 10:22:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The same went in my district. In my unit there were multiple officers talking and texting on their phones. When the officer said "eyes left", I looked left at the stand and I noticed the majority couldn't even do that simple of a task. Are we that shallow? Are we that feeble minded?

I think instead of "eyes left" to look at dept brass, we should do "eyes right" and look at every single fallen officers picture the recruits are holding.

5/07/2013 10:50:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Let me get this straight. Dart wants you to pay $300 to exsercise your 2nd amendment, but dart will fight hell and high water to keep citizens (?) from having to get a state I'd ($20 tops) to keep voting honest. Fuck Dart. He is anti-constitution and anti-America. He pro screwing this county, state and country.

5/07/2013 11:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Dart is a total and complete embarrassment to law enforcement. He is a typical liberal political hack who has no credentials in LE. There is a CCSP lieutenant running against him with excellent credentials and well liked withon the ranks. Problem is that he needs the support of the whole law enforcement community. We need to take a stand on this one! Check out this man at www.electbillevans and see.

5/08/2013 12:01:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The ISP Sgt had it right! Why are we not vocal about getting this discrace out of office??? Bill Evans for Sheriff!

5/08/2013 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

remember that dart was never a police officer anywhere

5/08/2013 02:19:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"wild-west gun BS"


Aren't we ALREADY experiencing this?

CCW for law-abiding citizens and Chicago's ridiculous murder rate are two entirely different issues. The pols are just trying to tie the two together to scare the under-informed masses.


rb

5/08/2013 02:52:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"Who votes for these assholes?"


The other assholes that simply vote straight ticket (D) every election.

5/08/2013 03:08:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Would he issue a permit to Gacy?


Gacy was probably a Holiday Court Deputy. A lot of heavy politicos and sports figures were...Walter Payton comes to mind.

5/08/2013 03:11:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Wild west? Why Chicago already is like the wild west.



Yeah, except only those wearing the black hats have guns.

Those in the white hats have no such opportunity.

5/08/2013 03:13:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

in Chicago we bury the BIGGEST THIEVES-SHORTSHANKS AND HIS WIFE- here and build a 55 million park in her corrupt name.


Maybe we can bury her and him (dead or alive) in the new park.

Easier access to piss on his grave, too!

5/08/2013 03:28:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wondering: if on restricted duty, once concealed carry comes in, can we carry? Valid FOID, state certified. Can the department stop us?

5/08/2013 04:13:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I'm a citizen with a valid FOID card who lives in Watseka. I come into the City two or three times a week on business. I don't really give a damn if concealed carry is implemented, because I carry all of the time now. My late Dad always told me "Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6." Screw Dart and his liberal attitude. My survival and protection is paramount.

5/08/2013 08:08:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Just wondering: if on restricted duty, once concealed carry comes in, can we carry? Valid FOID, state certified. Can the department stop us?

5/08/2013 04:13:00 PM

Whether they can stop you or not, if you use your firearm you will inevitably be sued, and the city will not indemnify you because, as far as they are concerned, you are not the police and they did not want you carrying a firearm. If you are going to carry a firearm under concealed carry, check into an insurance policy or be prepared to financially lose everything and then some should you have to use the firearm.

5/08/2013 08:58:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"What is it about Illinois politicians who assume everyone who lives here is an asshole with no self control, no conflict resolution skills and no sense of responsibility?" -- SCC

They and everyone around them are just like this; they know that they can't be trusted any farther then a man can spit, so they just take it from there.

5/10/2013 03:20:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"what are 3d printed guns going to be considered in this law?"

5/07/2013 12:19:00 AM

Probably nothing at all, since these are largely an Internet myth.

5/10/2013 03:21:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

When the government must grant you permission to exercise a right, such as obtaining a permit or a FOID card in order to own a gun; that is no longer called a right, it's a privlege. And everyone knows that a privlege can be taken away at a whim. I wonder how the anti-gun people would feel if we applied the same logic to the first ammendment? No going to church without a permit. No reading a newspaper or the internet without a permit. No travel outside of your neighborhood without a permit. No membership in a political party without a permit.

5/10/2013 07:07:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I see the problem, you have Dart for a Sheriff and the Wild West has Sheriff Joe Arpaio. I believe Big Joe can handle the Wild West and Dart can not handle any part of his job. Yes the Wild West is safer than Chicago.

5/11/2013 12:03:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Chicago today is worse than the" Wild West" ever was, which was a myth anyway.

5/11/2013 10:50:00 AM  

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