No Guns for Certain People
From our friends over at 19WardPolitics - The great and powerful Dart has spoken!
- You’d have to have a good reason to need to carry a concealed permit under Sheriff Dart’s proposal. While taping “Connected to Chicago” for Sunday morning at 6:00AM, Dart said people in high-crime zip codes would have a presumed need, but not in low-crime zip codes.
“If there’s individuals that cannot demonstrate that they have this need, then they shouldn’t be eligible for it because underlying this is not this notion that everybody, everytime, anywhere can carry guns. That’s not what they interpreted the second amendment to be yet. Yet!”
So citizens in low crime areas won't be able to get guns? How interesting. Dart has just proposed to recreate the "separate and unequal" divisions of our past.
And now that criminals would be tipped off as to where the better odds of getting away with crime are located, what does anyone think might happen? Of course, it's happening now anyway.
And now that criminals would be tipped off as to where the better odds of getting away with crime are located, what does anyone think might happen? Of course, it's happening now anyway.
Labels: dumb ideas, gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:04 AM
81 Comments:
Is this moron serious???!!! Yeah, my wife's gonna be the first one to sign up, and then get denied. I'm gonna gets me sum of dat ghetto lottery too!
This guy is really a fruitcake. " this notion that everyone can carry " Its not a notion asswipe. Its called the 2nd amendment.
If Oprah was here running things I bet we'd all get a gun!
So, basically the Englewood mutts would get permits while the decent folks in Edison Park, Jefferson Park, Sauganash, would SOL.
What is he afraid of? Some poor little "Trayvon" getting his just desserts? Not being able to ply his criminal trade without risk?
I can't imagine the County being in real good financial shape. And when the bills from the lawsuits start coming in, where will they get the money to pay them?
We all know....
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/05/09/malcolm-shabazz-dead_n_3249313.html
This ranks as one of the most outrageous ideas of the year.Who died and made this jerk God?He better find some other part of the country to play politics,
IF you are a PARTY MEMBER, you will be allowed to carry guns. If you are not a PARTY MEMBER, you will pay!
All hail the Great Leader!
Don't forget the $300 fee. Since low income areas tend to have higher crime it seems those people won't be eligible to concealed carry either. See where this is going?
Stupid idea by Dart, unConstitutional and will cost the Middle Class Txpayers even more money of their Taxes that will have to go to pay off all tbe Lawsuits that will be filed because of this Dimwit. You can't restrict Peoples Constitutional Rights because of the neighborhoods they live in, Dart. WTF is wrong with you? Are you TOTALLY Stuck on Stupid ? What about Taxpayers who live in a good zipcode neighborhood, but drive to a high-crime area every day to work? What about people who would go shopping in a not so great area if they were allowed to be armed, but since you restricted them, they take their money and spend it at stores outside Crook County, and you screw All Cook County Businesses for no reason other than your blatent Stupidity ? You Sir, ARE TRULY, far too Stupid to hold the job you have, and should resign immediately, you double-dense Moronic Imbecile.
OT:
Miami-Dade Police Shooting ends in one dead.
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=b30_1368154795
Wow, this is a new one, even for this God-forsaken town. Just because I live in 18 and know to stay away from Boul Mich on wilding nights, and not walk/bike on the lakefront path on Oak or North Ave beaches, and walk a fair amount because I don't have a car, I don't deserve to have concealed carry? Fuck him.
--No Cop Here
CLOUTED Always HAv had Guns in Crook County Shitcago
Speaking of the Old 19th Ward...
Where is Matt?
Did he find religion?
ok Tom Dork is finally gone koo-koo!
Dart is just trying to shore up his support in the minority and white liberal community for his future political run for bigger and better things.
So Tom, tell the class what the crime rate was in the neighborhood of the doctor in Connecticut whose whole family was slaughtered by a couple of atavistic beasts...
my new bumper sticker:
DART IS DUMB AS DIRT
Wake up you dumb 19th Ward fuckers!
Get your heads out of the Jameson bottle.
No guns for law abiding white people is the Dart program.
Sounds like a violation of the 14th amendment...
Mr. Sheriff---you could give classes on how to say dumb shit with a straight face.
So, if you live in Englewood, still qualify for the FOID card and you happen to have the (extra) $300.00, you can be eligible for the carry permit assuming you can jump through the other hoops of training, annual registration, secure weapon storage, etc. (IMHO, if you had the extra money, you'd probably rather move out...but then you'll make yourself unable to attain said CCW credential.)
On the other hand, if you live in Mt. Greenwood, have a job, care about your neighborhood and the people in your community you are out of luck and the Sheriff expects you to be a victim.
When Dart finally retires or gets unseated, I wouldn't be surprised if he takes over as late-vocation priest at St. Sabina's parish...he is shaping up as the perfect replacement.
Dart is a total toupee-wearing dick.
I never thought the equal protection clause of the 14th amendment would be applied to guns, but Dart is applying different standards for gun permits solely based on zip code. He trashes the constitution in his unbridled advocacy of his liberal collective society.
Both Dart and McCarthy are completely stupid people. The gang bangers and criminals are going into taxpaying areas like downtown, Lincoln park, and wrigleyville like never before and are robbing people left and right because police resources have been stolen from taxpayers and given to the ghetto. Concealed carry is needed everywhere.
Where did Dart and McCarthy get their college degrees?? because they seriously are lacking critical thinking skills
Dart's new campaign slogan:
"Vote for me and I'll grant you CC"
Hm, my copy of the Bill of Rights doesn't say "have to have a good reason". Does that logic apply to the Rights as well? Say, you have to have a good reason for the need to free speech.
Since Dart isn't willing to uphold and protect the Constitution, he is therefore unfit for office and should be removed.
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Not only is this crazy, but if implemented, I'm certain it would be deemed racist and illegal with the ability to file lawsuits for discrimination if denied based on what this asshole thinks. But the question really begs all Cook County residents, who keeps voting for this asshole?
This man is incredibly stupid.
That’s not what they interpreted the second amendment to be yet.
Actually, it is.
Once again the taxpayers of Cook County are going to be paying for litigation generated by a Political Hack. This time the Hack will be Dart. (In the past it was Daley) This concept that he is floating may even result in a reverse discrimination issue, since it will clearly discriminate against White Folks! So please explain this to me: There is an increased Police Presence in High Crime Areas, and the Citizens there will be allowed to carry firearms. While in the Low Crime areas there will be less police and the citizens are unarmed. Maybe it is because I am getting older, but this just does not make sense. Also note a guy was home invaded and shot in Orland Park last night, then he was kidnapped. Since Orland Park is a low-crime area, but he is the victim of multiple felonies; Can He Please Be Issued a Permit Master Dart? Baby G.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-vigilant-parent-sees-man-with-gun-at-sauganash-school-20130509,0,6668625.story
apparently, she's never seen one 'angry' before.
Folks....
If what you're reading about Tom Dart and his elitist attitude has you ngered and frustrated...
how about helping us *DO* something about it?
join the fight to restore our natural right to preservation and self-defense.
join the NRA, the ISRA and log on to Illinoiscarry.com
Who is the second reincarnation?
(a) Thomas Dart
(b) Michael Madigan
(c) Barack Obama
(d) Rahm Emanuel
(e) Richard M. Daley
(f) Toni Preckwinkle
(g) John Cullerton
(h) All of the above
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None of his ideas will make any difference. lost cause. these crap parents should be castrated and stricken from creating more demon babies.
-from my cold dead hands
Glad I live in Lake County. I loved the city when I grew up there, but it's so fucked now. Stay safe. I need to leave this state
it's called "Equal Protection". Read the Constitution and its been upheld many times by SCOTUS
There is no provision that states you must prove you have a need to exorcise any constitutional right in our constitution, or have the libtards changed all that? the SCOTUS has ruled against the city and county in this matter and they are just asking for it all over again. This issue has been settled and they will only bring us more civil rights law suites and I wouldn't have a problem with that but it will mean more taxes for us because they are fighting a loosing battle. Tom Dart and his ilk are trying to set up a system that will allow only the connected to get a permit to carry while touting once again the line of "Common sense" gun control. You cannot have double standards when it comes to Constitutional rights but they will fight tooth and nail to drag this trough the courts as long as possible. I don't have a problem with law abiding citizens carrying guns and as a matter of fact, I think we should do away with the FOID, it is also unconstitutional. There should be a system set up that the state has to prove you that you don't have a right or have forfeited that right, such as felons who are not law abiding to begin with. There should be no burden of proof on law abiding citizens to prove they have a need to enjoy any right.
So – in high crime areas, and low income presumably, 300 for a CC permit. 500 for a legit gun. They can’t afford that, so Crook County will have to foot that bill.
And when guns get “stolen” they will need to be replaced. It will be better than being a straw purchaser…
what a fucking idiot. so, my our neighborhood that we live in might not be as bad as others but what the fuck difference does that have? so it's guaranteed that a burglar, rapist, carjacker or murderer wont visit my block or that my he wont run into my wife while she's getting gas, or driving to the store or doctor, etc? punishing the good people but they do little to nothing about the bad people with guns.
How about I may live in a low crime area but I visit MANY of my friends in high crime areas and I'm risking my life when doing so.
Now give me the DAMN PERMIT!
Wow who the fuck does he think he is??? He was never a LEO! Fuck off
Hey Dart, this guy lived in a low crime area. Now if these thugs come back after him he cant protect himself cause you wont allow him to carry?
A man was shot and wounded when two men broke into his Orland Park home early this morning, police said.
Police received a 911 call about a shooting in the 10900 block of Antelope Lane in Orland Park around 2:50 a.m., authorities said.
Police said two people forced their way into the home and shot the man, then stole "items." Police didn't say what was stolen.
The two jumped into a silver PT Cruiser driven by another man and fled east on Interstate 80, police said.
Is he saying White people (low crime zip codes) don't get to exercise their 2nd Amendment??
This was attempted by a aldercreature ( i forgot which) to restrict firearms permits for handguns in the city by "zipcode". J- Fled even had a list of restricted handguns one could have nothing by bersa, jimenez hi- standard any low or moderate price handgun. This targeted low-income residents. Mainly minorities
What zip code does Dart live in? So his wife won't get a permit than?
Sure, Tom can change the U.S. Constitution by zip code now. LMFAO! What a joke. Are you kidding me? What is the U.S. Constitution like car insurance? The laws are by zip codes now like insurance rates? WTF Tom. So the high crime area is the animal lives and like he/she won't travel? I always laugh when I visit friends in the burbs and they tell me how they don't worry about crime because they don't live in the city. I keep trying to explain how there are these inventions calls buses and cars and people can travel. Look at the Mag Mile? Can you say RED LINE? Tom you truly are an idiot.
This just keeps getting crazier.
I gotta get out.
Just more proof that he is an unqualified jackass that shouldn't hold any position of power. Fuck him sideways and tell your friends and family to do what they feel comfortable to defend themselves and those around them.
The Second Amendment is THE law of the land, not some dipshit democratic sheriff.
This is exactly why you need "shall issue" carry laws and reasonably priced fees. Full state preemption is another need.
ECS
From Oklahoma where a Handgun License lets you carry concealed or open carry.
He can say what he want it's up to the officers who are on the street's to say fuck him and his moronic law.
Its strange to me how the ISP hasn't been able to process and return Illinois citizens their FOID cards.....maybe the power to be are purposely holding back on the cards until after the June 10 dateline.....maybe another nanny state ploy to control who can or canNOT own a gun. The last recent articles by the media, tells how the ISP has been swamped with thousands of application, but decline to say how many cards they were able to process and return to applicants,,,,I personally have been waiting since the latter part of Febuary for my renewal...all inquiries are met with a pre recorder message that tell you nothing and after 4 email inquiry with no responses, I can only conclude that a large amount of people will be at the mercy of people like Dart, Preckwinkle, and Emanuel...what a horrible thought!
I also live in 018 and I guess since we don't have bodies dropping regularly, I don't deserve a gun. Never mind that "youts" run rampant after dark. So I guess I don't get to defend myself. Thanks Tom!
Hey Tom Dart, you ok with this?
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UNIVERSITY VILLAGE — Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan told thousands of followers Sunday he was planning to reach out to gang leaders to help "protect" the Nation of Islam.
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http://www.dnainfo.com/chicago/20130225/chicago/louis-farrakhan-gang-members-can-serve-as-protectors
Ya...I bet you are....
Hey Dart these guys can have guns, but not my wife? F U
http://www.bonq.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/02/Gang-Bangers.jpg
call Dart's office
312-603-6444
tell him what you think of is policy
Let me get this straight: I live in a "low crime" zip code, I pay more for a nice house in a nice neighborhood, and thus I pay more property taxes to COOK county, but I have MY rights infringed upon??
All of the NW portion of the county would be disarmed!
Won't be low crime much longer after that!
As a Sheriff's Policeman, I am embarrassed beyond all belief with this guy that they elected Sheriff, twice now.
Please don't make the same mistake a third time!
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On the discrepancy between the Medical Examiner and the police department on the number of homicides, i.e. 400 vs. 300. According to the police department there was a clerical error making the true number of homicides 339, but “there’s homicide and there’s murder”. What a great read.
so, who exactly does Dart think he is, to be able to interpret and apply the United States Constitution.....arrogant, uninformed, misled, politically corrupt, just plain stupid?
What zip code does Dart live in? So his wife won't get a permit than?
Tom Dart has a armed guard outside his house 24/7 but thinks we should'nt have the right to protect our family.
What's scary is his side kick billy cunningham is more liberal than him.
This nonsense coming from a guy who carries a gun AND regularly has a county guy sitting in an unmarked squad across from his house while he's not home.
Having A Political Hack, as Tom Dart, decide, who is, and who is not, entitled to his, or her, second amendment rights, is laughable, at so many levels. That goes for any Political Hack. This State, County, and City are "Chuck Full" of Political Hacks.
"With all our Rage, We are still just Rats, in a Cage"
What a P. O . S .
What an asshole this guy turned out to be, another Chicago democrat killing our city. Remember when you vote....
Let me see if I understand liberal logic.
I cannot own a handgun legally, or carry a concealed weapon in Chicago..even though this "right" is granted me by the 2nd amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
Yet..The POTUS, Illinois Governor,and Chicago Mayor, ALL support "Marriage equality" though this is mentioned no where in the Constitution.
Liberals support a women's "right to choose" Aka Abortion..But wanted compassion shown to hard core, cold blooded killers that resided on "death row". (whining voice) "We can't execute them, it's inhumane!"
Fuck liberals. They show compassion to those unworthy of it..and none to the most innocent and defenseless.."oh..it's just a fetus!"
This city and State will attempt to price most people out of obtaining a CC permit. There will be a yearly fee that will be expensive. Even now the retired officers must pay $75.00 to $100.00 per year to qualify and retain their CC permit.
I don't know what is passing for thought process in his gourd, but let me pass on a little history to perhaps shed a little light on this nonsense. I spent a lot a lot of time watching him play little league ball as he was on my brother-in-laws team as kids. As I can clearly recall Little Tommy Dart (Dart the Fart) to his teammates took a lot, A LOT!, of headers at the plate. Hey Tommy, it's about time you had your noggin mapped, dontcha' think?
Wait, I live in 20. Civilian here, but many buddies on the job. They tell me 20 is a freaking zoo. Who decides what's "high crime?" This Dart idiot? No thanks. I'll think for myself.
Just curious. Dart was elected sheriff after being pooch-boy for Sheahan, but apparently never passed any law enforcement academy. Is he qualified to carry? Does he have to requalify annually? Just axin'
Anonymous said...
Sounds like a violation of the 14th amendment...
5/10/2013 05:30:00 AM
Sounds more like a Second Amendment violation!!
Hey Dart, you loathesome fuck, I've got a joke for you.
Why did the chicken carry concealed?
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Because "FUCK YOU!"
Amendment 2 of the Bill of RIGHTS(not needs,privileges)
"A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."
To keep:a term meaning to hold, to maintain, to support, to retain in possession and to take care of
Law Dictionary: What is KEEP? definition of KEEP (Black's Law Dictionary) http://thelawdictionary.org/keep/#ixzz2SYdBHoS4
To bear:To support, sustain, or carry; to give rise to”, or to produce, something else as an incident or auxiliary.
Law Dictionary: What is BEAR? definition of BEAR (Black's Law Dictionary) http://thelawdictionary.org/bear/#ixzz2SYdVpkFW
well if you live in any zipcode in Chicago or a surrounding suburb violent crime is on the rise. guess everyone qualifies. what a Jack ass.
he should have also proposed that shit heads should be fenced into their shit head neighborhoods and not be allowed to leave. that would better serve everyone.
so....who is the rotten, no good, no count, liberal, (democrat?), no character, no integrity, Un-American, unconstitutional, uninformed,socialistic communistic bastard, that will not support the 2nd Amendment?.......eh?
I used to live in Beverly, sold my house and moved two years ago to a new home in south Lake County, IN. Boy, am I glad I got the hell out of Chicago after living there 21 years. It took me about 10 weeks to get a CC permit in Indiana. I as well as all of my neighbors are armed. There is a joke out here among my rural neighbors that when you call 911, the dispatcher will ask you if you need an officer to respond or a hearse to pick up the body.
An ex Cook County Government Hostage
DEMOCRATIC PARTY said...
Who is the second reincarnation?
(a) Thomas Dart
(b) Michael Madigan
(c) Barack Obama
(d) Rahm Emanuel
(e) Richard M. Daley
(f) Toni Preckwinkle
(g) John Cullerton
(h) All of the above
5/10/2013 08:38:00 AM
Second reincarnation of who?
Hitler? Stalin? Mao?
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"...I visit MANY friends in high crime neighborhoods..."
You are too stupid to own a gun and your friends are stupid for living there.
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