Officer Shot - Accidently
- An on-duty Chicago police officer sustained a gunshot wound Monday night in the Englewood neighborhood, authorities said.
The officer is expected to survive, Chicago Police Department News Affairs [...] said.
The shooting happened about 9:15 p.m. in the 1200 block of West 72nd Place, authorities said.
According to a law enforcement source, an officer's weapon discharged as a dog was charging at police.
The weapon didn't discharge. It was discharged by an officer pulling the trigger. Let's not pretend guns have a mind of their own. If it was an accident, 'fess up, say it was an accident.
Initial reports have the officer in serious, but stable condition. No word on long-term recovery. Best wishes to the Officers involved.
Initial reports have the officer in serious, but stable condition. No word on long-term recovery. Best wishes to the Officers involved.
Labels: officer injured
posted by SCC at 5:01 AM
65 Comments:
Enjoy the summer off.
How about if you and all the monday morning quarterbacks keep your comments to yourselves?
I gotta tell you, SCC, you're way out of line on this one. You're no better than the mainstream media when you publish supposition and conjecture that can only hurt the involved officer or at the very least make him look like a fool.
Shit happens fast in 007. You have to react in a split second and live with the consequences. I'm sure the officer feels badly enough without you piling on.
Ouch!
In a previous post someone suggested we attend traffic court to support the Officers who issued the citation to the asshole Alderman. That is an excellent idea. Especially if he did in fact obtain a cr# against the Officers. The media should also be notified. If we can get something going, you can count me in!
Not an accidental discharge-negligent discharge. Every time that gun is fired, it takes a conscious effort to pull that trigger back. It's not like we carry cocked and locked 1911's out there. It happens, so there is no shame in it, but tell it like it is. Hope the PO heals quick and everyone learns from the incident.
So, just where on one's body is the "Englewood area?" It says that's where the officer was shot.
Let's get the terminology right. The proper term for this is not accidental discharge, it is more proper to call it an unintentional discharge. Yes the trigger had to have been pulled but the officer didn't intend to shoot him or herself.
According to Chicago Tribune update at 07:33, officer treated at Stroger and released. Best wishes for a speedy recovery. Enjoy the summer while recuperating!
Wtf scc? I know nothing of this case. But, it doesn't seem like the right time to be political or whimsical. I agree with you, however...an officer is in serious condition.
Sharon Dixon re arrested
Why nothing on the st. Jude parade?
OT:
Did rahm show up at St Jude?
On the bright side, the one who took the bullet will never have to pick up a bar tab again.
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Check this 60 minutes story out...interesting
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50146229n
Don't worry... The young spikey haired new sgt from 007 had it under control.... Never mind, I couldn't keep a straight face saying that. Talk about someone who is absolutely clueless... Not to mention an extreme as* kisser. Either way.. Get well soon officer
The term is unintentional discharge these days.
I hope the wounded officer is going to be ok and the officer who let the round loose is going to be ok also
OT
5 PPO's in 003 on this BS foot patrol detail were almost run down by a m1, on 63/king dr
PPO's did not fire, vehicle sped away and fired at pursuing officers blocks away, both offenders were arrested after crashing
Wtf is it going to take to end this foot patrol bullshit, these poor kids do not realize how Much they're being screwed over
Regardless of how it happened I wish the officer a full recovery.
to be (somewhat) fair,
there have been documented cases of unintentional discharge related to drawing from certain holster configurations.
the booger hook may or may not be to blame.
Oops. looks like somebody owes his/her partner lunch for a month.
no monday night quaterback here. these things sometime happen my prayers are with both officers. everybody stay safe.
I gotta tell you, SCC, you're way out of line on this one. You're no better than the mainstream media when you publish supposition and conjecture that can only hurt the involved officer or at the very least make him look like a fool.
Shit happens fast in 007. You have to react in a split second and live with the consequences. I'm sure the officer feels badly enough without you piling on.
All the supposition and conjecture came from the media report that we referenced. The fact is weapons don't "discharge" on their own and the media giving the gun this ability contributes directly to the ignorance about guns that abets the liberal agenda of banning them.
If pointing out that single fact is "piling on," then we're guilty. However if educating the readers, many of whom aren't the police, was our goal, then we accomplished that. You'll notice we wished both Officers well - shit happens. You admit it and you move on - something this Department has had difficulty with in the past.
And spare us the 007 chest beating. We served there and elsewhere during our careers and there aren't many finer cops around. But it isn't unique and it isn't an excuse.
Please, for safety's sake...
Try to give each other elbow room going into these bad places where bad people and bad critters are.
When shit gets dynamic, it's The Police who run out of room first.
The real issue is how many Merit cops on those easy inside jobs are wondering if they need to do a desk pop to prove their police skills for the next Sergeant's exam?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lo9tLrOHXH4
It wasn't unintentional or negligent.. The round went through the dog and intto his thigh. All of you Monday morning quarterbacking people need to shut the fuck up.. Shit happens but the copper did nothing wrong. Just thank God the copper shot will be ok..
Accidental discharge?
Will the Keesing Bandit weigh in on this?
...and some animal rights bunch actually has the tiny little balls to be putting out a "training material" telling police how not to hurt the poor little doggie in these situations...
How does an accidential shooting turn into an unintentional discharge???? When coppers start monday morning quarterbacking, that's how. The dog charged, the officer drew his gun and shot at at the threat. Did he hit the threat?? We don't know and for all we know he nuetralized the threat. The unfortunate part for the officer is that his partner was unintentionally wounded during the gunfire. No Recklessness involved here, good instincts on the part of the officer and a good learing experience for both officers. Nothing more nothing less. To the officer who discharged his weapon thanks for doing what you were trained to do and to both officers a speedy recovery.
" Every time that gun is fired, it takes a conscious effort to pull that trigger back."
I thought you guys used Glocks?
I've seen coppers spooked which caused an accidental discharge. It happens. Main thing to remember if you are carrying a Glock, Springfield XD or the S&W MP, the trigger pull is nothing. The accidental discharges I have seen have been with revolvers, DA Semi Autos and striker fired pistols. It has happened many times in the past. It is never intentional. I feel sorry for both officers. The one who fired has to feel like shit. Best thing to try and do is what we have always been taught. Try to keep your finger off the trigger unless you are almost 100 percent positive you are going to pull the trigger. I have to say I didn't always take my own advice. But after I started carrying a Glock, I made sure I was ready but my finger was off the trigger unless I felt I was in imminent danger. I was in situations and one thing I have learned is not to make any judgement unless you were there. No 2 situations are alike. Remember when you pull the trigger, even intentionally, tunnel vision sets in.
Shit happens fast in 007. You have to react in a split second and live with the consequences. I'm sure the officer feels badly enough without you piling on.
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Stick to the "I'm a hero from 007" for the chicks at the bar otherwise give it a rest here. Go ask Rick Francis' widow if shit happens fast ouside of 007.
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5 PPO's in 003 on this BS foot patrol detail were almost run down by a m1, on 63/king dr
PPO's did not fire, vehicle sped away and fired at pursuing officers blocks away, both offenders were arrested after crashing
Wtf is it going to take to end this foot patrol bullshit, these poor kids do not realize how Much they're being screwed over
5/07/2013 02:21:00 PM
This department has it's head up it's ass. First off for how many years in the academy they preach about anything you do will get you sued and/or fired. Second, even after your FTO training, your first year is all learning. Hell we learn something new during our whole career. As my FTO said, when you think you know everything about the job, quit, because you are full of shit. How true. The idiots who came up with the idea to put PPO's on foot patrol in the worst shit neighborhoods should have their heads examined and a foot up their ass. All they are doing is setting up a bad situation where one of these green officers is going to get hurt or killed. Instincts build in your first year. They teach you basics in the academy, but the rest is learned on the street by working with coppers who have been in multiple situations and have built up instincts by learning how people act when all hell is going to break loose. Can't blame them, blame the asinine bosses. We were all new once. How quickly we learned the academy really didn't teach us shit outside the basics.
There's no such thing as perfection in this life.
Even Navy Seals screw up on occasion,
Best wishes to both officers.
SCC, you laid the facts out as told. We all have been in a situation like that or heard of one. 007 is a great district to work and has some very good coppers there. But so do most other districts now of days. I've worked with some great cops all over the city. Many districts like 10, 11,005, 003, 006 and others are just as busy. Maybe 25 years ago there were slow districts, but that isn't the case today. As far as the shooting, whether it was an accidental discharge or the PO got tunnel vision, doesn't matter. Shit happens quickly. Much quicker than a split second. Never second guess. One thing we all should remember is every one of us is human. Mistakes happen, have happened in the past and will happen again. We don't have the luxury of taking time to think things out before they happen. So sometimes shit happens. I almost broke my partners arm wailing on a guy we were trying to get a gun off of with my maglite. Tunnel vision. If you want to arm chair quarterback. Do it for yourself. Every other situation, leave it alone.
So enlighten us what was done wrong on scene?
Hope the officer is ok, but know what you are shooting at and know when to pull the trigger. Back in 1997 there was an idiot in 020 cleaning his gun in the locker room and discharged his weapon. The round flew around in the little locker room bouncing around. He is lucky he only shot himself in the hand and didn't kill someone.
I will say hope the officer is ok and now go to the range and practice practice practice.
No go ahead and flame me for my opinion. I bet you you would say the same thing if that round was coming towards you.
Will the dog survive?
Get well officer. As a civilian I am surprised this doesn't happen every time a couple PO's go down some shitty gangway or some filthy dark hall trying to help people who couldnt give a shit. I know I am grateful for these guys. I dont know how your training takes the fear out of rounding a corner or having a door suddenly swing open with a dirtball behind it helps you keep your cool and not pull the trigger more often. Real people do respect you guys. You wont run into us. The mutts who have respect for nothing are the ones you have the pleasure of meeting. But we are out here. And we are still a majority. When the chips are down, we are still with you 100%.
Speaking of discharges did little Mikey fire Geiger?
What's the deal with the tact LT? A CR generated! Really?
Anonymous said...
Check this 60 minutes story out...interesting
http://www.cbsnews.com/video/watch/?id=50146229n
5/07/2013 11:11:00 AM
Basically all the same ideas and theories of foot patrol with
a fancy new name.
SCC, The majority concurs with your responce. Keep up the great info everyday.
Without this blog, we would know shit what is going on in the CPD
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Don't worry... The young spikey haired new sgt from 007 had it under control.... Never mind, I couldn't keep a straight face saying that. Talk about someone who is absolutely clueless... Not to mention an extreme as* kisser. Either way.. Get well soon officer
5/07/2013 11:44:00 AM
I work in 007 and I can say with a straight face that we have good supervisors. There are only a few in all of 007 that are clueless and/or scared. I guess some people are just jealous of the success of others. Get better E.B. and enjoy the time off.
Did rahm show up at St Jude
I dont even remember seeing mcnonuts there either. Unbelievable
What's the deal with the tact LT? A CR generated! Really?
5/07/2013 10:15:00 PM
Accidental discharge (negligent discharge) is always an automatic CR #
What's the deal with the tact LT? A CR generated! Really?
Read the order, its automatic dumb fuck.
" The round went through the dog and intto his thigh"
Sounds like the Kennedy magic bullet.
Hey Uncle Larry . . is the dog going to be OK?
What's the deal with the tact LT? A CR generated! Really?
Ah yes another young officer that does not know the rules and regulations of the CPD. As other posts have clearly stated, it is automatic you goof. Accidental discharges come with a nice hefty price of, you get a CR with it.
Stop pulling triggers! You squeeze them. Pulling them causes accidental, negligent, unintentional and badly aimed shots. Come on people, we're better than that.
Get well soon Officer
I would do what every good copper does on this job . Sue the city and get merit sgt.
Unintentional discharge???? It takes a trigger pull to fire a weapon, question is weather it was intended or an "oops" reflex. Just like when the brain trusts in 019, exexcuted the roll call room floor. These officers ( resource team officers) are dumb and dumber. The first mental giant unloads his weapon and gives it to the other knucklehead who pulls the trigger and shoots the floor while the round hits Jeff with a G in the leg. Talk about the three stooges. But then the XO comes to roll call that week to tell the troops to not give these officers any shit for what happened since this happens all the time. Oh and they are still on quality of life cars which are now called resource teams, soon to be renamed I'm sure......
Did rahm show up at St Jude
I dont even remember seeing mcnonuts there either. Unbelievable
You have a bad memory Supt was there, not mayor, but his wife Amy Rule
OT:
Did rahm show up at St Jude?
5/07/2013 10:24:00 AM
No he was out of town AGAIN. He sent his wife to represent him.
Anonymous said...
It wasn't unintentional or negligent.. The round went through the dog and intto his thigh. All of you Monday morning quarterbacking people need to shut the fuck up.. Shit happens but the copper did nothing wrong. Just thank God the copper shot will be ok..
5/07/2013 05:04:00 PM
By the rules of shooting, that would be a problem too. Not sure why the officers are approaching the dog from both sides, but I won't judge. However as one of the basic rules of shooting you need to know your background behind your target. Essentially that is shooting at another police officer. I won't judge I wasn't there, however trying to move a step or 2 to one side or the other might have prevented this if that was the case.
Oh and for the hero at 06:51, things happen fast anywhere at anytime. Save the 007th Dist. Ranger bullshit.
George Martinez said...
It happens...Trust me.
5/07/2013 07:12:00 AM
It shouldn't...Trust me.
Anonymous said...
Let's get the terminology right. The proper term for this is not accidental discharge, it is more proper to call it an unintentional discharge. Yes the trigger had to have been pulled but the officer didn't intend to shoot him or herself.
5/07/2013 09:23:00 AM
It is not an accidental or unintentional shooting. He shot. He meant to shoot. He did not take a full view of what he was shooting at.
What's the deal with the tact LT? A CR generated! Really?
5/07/2013 10:15:00 PM
A cr is generated every time someone fires their weapon on the street hairgel. Stop trying to make the Lt look bad because he doesnt want your dumb ass on the tact team!
Anonymous said...
Get well officer. As a civilian I am surprised this doesn't happen every time a couple PO's go down some shitty gangway or some filthy dark hall trying to help people who couldnt give a shit. I know I am grateful for these guys. I dont know how your training takes the fear out of rounding a corner or having a door suddenly swing open with a dirtball behind it helps you keep your cool and not pull the trigger more often. Real people do respect you guys. You wont run into us. The mutts who have respect for nothing are the ones you have the pleasure of meeting. But we are out here. And we are still a majority. When the chips are down, we are still with you 100%.
Thank you!!!! We appreciate the support of the decent, law-abiding citizens!!!!
Similar incident when I was new on the job. Copper was on the porch, my partner and I walking up to assist him, we were separated by a cyclone fence. Owner let pit bull out the back door it charged the officer on the porch, he let a few rounds off, we happened to be in the crossfire. The dog ran off uninjured, my partner and I just missed catching a round. What I can say is that the officer on the porch was trapped and had no choice, I didn't fault him then and I don't fault him now. I'm grateful it worked out that day
I guess what I would add, is that if you weren't there, in this latest incident maybe we could cut the officer some slack. I can't imagine how bad they feel, let's be grateful the outcome wasn't worse.
Shit happens. Monday morning quarterbacking isn't gonna change that. No matter how much we try to do things right- reality sometimes gets in the way. Not the first time an officer was accidentally shot by another officer and it surely won't be the last- but it is a rare event considering the big picture.
Also- if you weren't there- it's not appropriate to judge the actions of the officers.
Wish them well, be glad they will survive , learn from it and move on.
..and some animal rights bunch actually has the tiny little balls to be putting out a "training material" telling police how not to hurt the poor little doggie in these situations...
Thank the officer that shot the bull terrier and ended up in federal court!
Its not an accidental discharge. The officer discharged his weapon ti shoot a charging dog, partner behind. Write it that way, dont ccover up because shit happened. My prayers go out to the partner, but in order to do this job right, people get hurt and shit gets broken. I if we cant stomach that, the country will continue to downward spiral and bad guys will prevail. DONT
COVER UP SHIT WITH LIES WHEN IT HAPPENS, BE SMART AND JUSTIFY YOUR ACTIONS AS TO WHY IT HAPPENED! You get in more shit saying accidental and other excuses...
Anonymous said...
Hey Uncle Larry . . is the dog going to be OK?
5/08/2013 06:16:00 AM
Yes little Tommy! In fact he's going to be more than OK. Rahm has already approved an out of court, "no admission of liability" settlement for Fido equaling almost 1 million dollars. Fido has already purchased a lifetime supply of Alpo and has weekly visits to the animal shelter lined up for his choice of the latest "poon-tang". He was also offered season tickets to the Bulls, but he refused because he said that Derrick Rose is a pussy for not coming back before the regular season ended! He's a VERY smart dog!
007 Tact LT always hid in W/C's office when P.O. He was really never the police. Just saying...
Is the dog in custody ? Did the ASA approve felony charges?
Or is ANIMAL CONTROL going to execute it with out due process.
Due process process? That a concept ?
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