Concealed Carry Passes
Concealed Carry gets a foothold:
- After six months of debate, the question of whether Illinois gun owners should be allowed to carry their weapons in public places now rests with Gov. Pat Quinn.
The state House voted 89-28 to approve a compromise gun deal that preserves local gun laws, including Chicago and Cook County’s bans on assault weapons, and keeps gun owners from carrying their loaded weapons on public trains and buses.
But it hands gun owners a potent new right that would end the state’s last-in-the-nation prohibition on concealed carry and, in the eyes of gun-rights advocates, put a dent in the state’s crime rates.
“This is a very historic day. I never thought this day would come,” said Rep. Brandon Phelps (D-Harrisburg), a gun-rights advocate at the center of concealed-carry negotiations.
“Crime has gone down in every state that has had concealed carry,” Phelps said.
The House’s action came after the Senate voted 45-12, with one voting present.
The Bill as passed because Madigan wanted it and he realized no action would be rolling the dice. Madigan also wanted it to grease the skids for his daughter's run for Governor. It would have been too big a distraction on one hand, and on the other, Lisa would have had to try to overturn a Appellate Court decision, opening her to all sorts of slings and arrows from both sides of the political spectrum. It is actually the smart move for the Madigans.
This all being said, we can see Quinn throwing a wrench in things and vetoing the Bill. It's supposedly "veto-proof" based on the vote count and a veto would make the 09 June deadline a major issue, but we wouldn't put it past him. After all, who is the court going to throw into jail? No one. And fines? Quinn will just write another bad check, the way Illinois has been writing bad checks for years now.
Is it perfect? No, not even close. As far as we're concerned, it's a starting point
This all being said, we can see Quinn throwing a wrench in things and vetoing the Bill. It's supposedly "veto-proof" based on the vote count and a veto would make the 09 June deadline a major issue, but we wouldn't put it past him. After all, who is the court going to throw into jail? No one. And fines? Quinn will just write another bad check, the way Illinois has been writing bad checks for years now.
Is it perfect? No, not even close. As far as we're concerned, it's a starting point
Labels: gun issues
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
111 Comments:
C'mon, Potato Head. Veto it so the fun can begin.
Oh goody, goody, goody!
One cannot underestimate the stupidity of Patrick Quinn.
Fran Hurley of the 19th ward voted in favor of getting all retirees Obamacare. Remeber this come election time
They have to get rid of the Chicago home rules.
I live in the burbs and work downtown, so looks like I cannot carry to work due to the no guns on public transportation. Another lawsuit waiting to happen.
Heck with the crime on the CTA, CC is a no brainer.
Can carry everywhere you want on your property.
If crime goes down because of Concealed Carry, and it may very well happen when thugs realize their mark may have a surprise for them, guess who will take credit for it saying it was his brand new strategy that caused crime to go down.
I was arrested and charged with a UUW and i had a valid foid three years ago can i have my conviction overturned.
OT, Emanuel saw the House quickly approve his controversial McCormick Place arena plan for DePaul University. In an ironic, if not symbolic, move, it had to be hitched to a proposal giving state and local tax incentives for building a downstate fertilizer plant.WTF is that ???
Good start. Thanks to all who supported thr nra and the isra.
OT:
Why doesn't the Gay Community want another name other than "marriage"?
What if the word marriage is for Man & Woman....What if the Gay Community created their own identifying word that symbolizes a union between the same sex...with all the same benefits and status?
The madigans, anyone that would vote for her needs their head checked. 40 years of daddy and look at the financial
shape this state is in!
Yes, it is illegal to carry a concealed weapon in all of the places where you really need one. I can see the bill being amended in the future.At least I hope it will be amended.
To anyone who is excited about the new concealed carry law and plans to rush out and gear up - DO NOT BUY YOUR GEAR AT MEGA SPORTS!! Since the new carry law allows the Chicago AWB to remain intact regarding long guns, I presume Mega Sports will continue in their utterly stupid and irrational store policy of PROHIBITING Cook County residents from purchasing AR's or any other long gun classified as as "assault weapon." Until Mega Sports embraces the 2nd Amendment as it should and allows all of its customers the ability to buy anything in the store, you should do yourself and everyone else a favor and take your $$$$ somewhere else, like GAT Guns, Maxon, Chucks etc. If we all speak with our wallets, Mega Sports will hopefully listen.
So can civilians carry guns anywhere? Or will it have restrictions? Such as you can't carry it in any stores or places where the owner doesn't want guns such as airports, shopping malls, restaurants, etc...?
The cost of training and public transportation ban opens it to civil rights law suits. ACLU has sued similar laws as exclusionary of the poor stating that the process, cost and denial of movement amounts to a "back-door ban" on most poor, law abiding residents. Also now every shitbird will know every regular lunch pail Joe stepping off every bus isn't carrying.
Better than nothing. Still bullshit because the litigation begins the moment it's signed.
Quinn is a knucklehead but if he vetoes the CCW bill he is in violation of the federal judicial system. I would presume that all FOID carrying citizens could carry legally effective
June 9. I certainly would.
Hell has indeed frozen over, yes pigs can fly and the Cubbies will win the World Series.
Well, maybe that last one isn't true.
It's a good bill but not a great one. The Shitcago pols could not carve out the city as a gun free zone {a legal one anyway} so they did the next best thing. The fees are high, you need 16 hours of {costly} training and NO CARRY ON PUBLIC TRANSPORTATION. Basically those three provisions puts a RTC license out of reach of those who need it the most - the law-abiding citizens of Shitcago.
http://news.yahoo.com/four-chicago-neighborhoods-named-list-25-most-dangerous-213400258.html
Anonymous said...
I was arrested and charged with a UUW and i had a valid foid three years ago can i have my conviction overturned.
6/01/2013 03:25:00 AM
Jody, what are you still doing in Chicago?
It's nice to know that public transportation is now crime free! Parks? Government buildings? Churches? I guess there have never been crimes in any of those places so there is no need to be armed there. I love the rainbows and unicorns here in Utopialand.
i never liked mayor washington much, but i dont recall him ever hurting the police dept. so...remember what he said about patrick quinn?? it was something like "pat quinn is completely incompetent, i wouldnt want him running anything" im not sure exactly what the correct wording was, but the quote can probably be found on you tube or somewhere else.
OT..."while in Springfield, Chicago Tribune political reporter Rick Pearson was arrested on suspicion of drunken driving early Friday morning in Springfield, where he was covering the closing hours of the state legislative session."
The interesting part has to deal with his previous arrest.
" but that case was dismissed after the arresting officer took the Fifth Amendment and refused to testify in DUI cases, according to Sangamon County records. "
You can do that??????
http://www.chicagotribune.com/business/breaking/chi-tribune-reporter-arrested-20130531,0,7179157.story
there are several videos on you tube with harold washington blasting pat quinn and having to fire him for running his dept. into the ground...funny stuff....right on...you want harold? you got him!!!
This officer was spot on:
"Fran Hurley of the 19th ward voted in favor of getting all retirees Obamacare. Remember this come election time"
And add John Mulroe to the list. There are five voters at my house that will be voting for anyone that runs against him in the next election.
Fran Hurley sure is showing her true colors. Already forgot where she came from! Rubber stamp for the machine. She reaps the benefits and screws the rest. Did you really think she would be any different?
Anonymous said...
To anyone who is excited about the new concealed carry law and plans to rush out and gear up - DO NOT BUY YOUR GEAR AT MEGA SPORTS!! Since the new carry law allows the Chicago AWB to remain intact regarding long guns, I presume Mega Sports will continue in their utterly stupid and irrational store policy of PROHIBITING Cook County residents from purchasing AR's or any other long gun classified as as "assault weapon." Until Mega Sports embraces the 2nd Amendment as it should and allows all of its customers the ability to buy anything in the store, you should do yourself and everyone else a favor and take your $$$$ somewhere else, like GAT Guns, Maxon, Chucks etc. If we all speak with our wallets, Mega Sports will hopefully listen.
6/01/2013 06:27:00 AM
You sound like Jesse Jackson with his boycotting mantra.
I hope Mr. Potato Head does veto the bill. That way maybe we can get a much better cc law and get rid of the Chicago and Cook County home rules. What is good for the state should also be good for crook county. Otherwise just banish crook county and chicago out of the state altogether.
Ah, fuck MEGASPORTS. I would even fire my gum there!
Interesting that the fee for civilian concealed carry for 5 years is $150. and for a retired officer is $100. for 1 year under the IROCC provision of concealed carry.
"But it hands gun owners a potent new right". The right to carry and defend ourselves is not handed to us by the state. This bill simply keeps reduces the state's infringement of that right.
Now if only the gun hating members of the department will stop and think before making gun arrests.
The department is totally lacking and behind on any training whatsoever, even thought this was a planned event. Now they will run around like a chicken with their head cut off.
The Madigans are out of wack with what's right and what's wrong. In 40 years, Mike has headed the State of Illinois Legislature by being Speaker of the House. He is a major player to have Bankrupted the State. What's that about?
"Is it perfect? No, not even close. As far as we're concerned, it's a starting point"
The problem with this is that any modification to this law will be vetoed, and have to have veto proof majority. A federal court decision was the only thing that got us a veto proof majority in this case. This will be the law of Illinois for the foreseeable future.
6/01/2013 01:16:00 AM
if you carry smart...no one will know.
Did Emanuel try to push a bill through Springfield giving him the right to not make payments into the Chicago teachers' pensions for this year ? This corruption never ends. Pensions are not piggy banks for these politicians.
To those buying guns, a great store is Rinks in Lockport. I will admit the range is like simulated night firing, but the price is always good, very nice people
I was arrested and charged with a UUW and i had a valid foid three years ago can i have my conviction overturned.
6/01/2013 03:25:00 AM
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Did it happen in Cook County?
If YES then the answer is absolutely!!
All you need is C-A-S-H.
Just see the right political hack and you too can have your name cleared, get hired by the CPD and one day become a boss!!
OT:
Why doesn't the Gay Community want another name other than "marriage"?
What if the word marriage is for Man & Woman....What if the Gay Community created their own identifying word that symbolizes a union between the same sex...with all the same benefits and status?
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How about we just take the state out of marriage.
Bad part is it lets the city keep its gun laws.
If you want to rob CTA will be the place to rob.
Megasports = MegaPRICES. No thanks.
Only idiots like IL. politicians could wrap their heads around this one. The CTA is thee place to have protection how fucking stupid can you be? Anyway they have to give us cc who else can protect the USA when sequester will cut half or more of the Military.........?
Interesting that the fee for civilian concealed carry for 5 years is $150. and for a retired officer is $100. for 1 year under the IROCC provision of concealed carry.
6/01/2013 11:53:00 AM
But the IRROC gives you the right to carry in ALL States and even on the CTA.
Anonymous said...
OT:
Why doesn't the Gay Community want another name other than "marriage"?
What if the word marriage is for Man & Woman....What if the Gay Community created their own identifying word that symbolizes a union between the same sex...with all the same benefits and status?
6/01/2013 04:59:00
Why you ask? Because they cannot get federal benefits, or state and local pensions unless you are married. Civil unions don't cover all the possibilities of benefits when divorce or death occur. I predict divorce rates higher then straight people. All I can say of gays is " be careful what you wish for".
Anonymous said...
To those buying guns, a great store is Rinks in Lockport. I will admit the range is like simulated night firing, but the price is always good, very nice people
6/01/2013 01:20:00
Yes, great people and great prices. But, you are correct about the range. It is in bad shape.
Anonymous said...
i never liked mayor washington much, but i dont recall him ever hurting the police dept. so...remember what he said about patrick quinn?? it was something like "pat quinn is completely incompetent, i wouldnt want him running anything" im not sure exactly what the correct wording was, but the quote can probably be found on you tube or somewhere else.
6/01/2013 09:44:00 AM
I was on one of the police association negotiating teams when Harold was Mayor. He was OK and really liked the cops. He did try to overturn our ability to unionize, however, by opposing the upcoming state law.
Interesting that the fee for civilian concealed carry for 5 years is $150. and for a retired officer is $100. for 1 year under the IROCC provision of concealed carry.
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As a carrier under IROCC, you do not have the same restrictions as the civilains have, nor do you have to go through the training. Stop being so cheap!
Thought a comment on IL HB 183 passing that I read on The Daily Kos of all places was worth sharing:
""As a responsible "free speecher" I want to know (9+ / 0-)
who lives in your home, their names, ages, gender, level of education and where they work.
I want to know the reason you feel the need to "free speech".
I want you to pay for "free speech safety training".
I want you to pay me $200 dollars to process this transaction.
When and if I decide you're allowed your "free speech permit" then you can only have 2 pens and 5 pieces of paper at any given time. You are not allowed to have a typewriter or printing press, that's for the military.
After all, the printing press IS a weapon of war and you don't need that.
[...]
Now, if you're given your "free speech permit", you cannot keep your pens or paper within reach of any children.
The pens must be stored in a safe, separate from the papers.
You cannot own any other color of ink besides what I decide.
You cannot have a pen carrying case or "pocket protector". I need to know when and if you have any pens on you.
You cannot have or use "erasable ink", we must know every thought you have. Besides, if you have done nothing wrong, why would you wish to hide it?
And to insure your compliance, you will be required to register all "weapons of mass destruction/instruction" within 90 days with a "Federally Licensed Dealer".
We promise, we won't keep records for more than 72 hours.
-7.62; -5.95 The scientists of today think deeply instead of clearly. One must be sane to think clearly, but one can think deeply and be quite insane.~Tesla
by gerrilea on Sat Jun 01, 2013 at 02:34:40 AM PDT
[ Parent ]""
How long before whe hear a greasy lawyer telling the Judge/Jury...
"My client's loved one did not deserve or expect to be shot.
My client's son mugged with a pocket knife a citizen he observed disembarking from the CTA and thus we contend, IL CCW Law gave my client's beloved honors student child the reasonable expectation of being able to mug someone leaving the CTA system without being shot.
We ask the Court rule that the CTA pay medical costs and damages to the REAL victim, Mr. Shitbird's family, given the CTA did not impliment the necessary procedures to keep armed people from traveling on the CTA; and as a result, Mr. Shitbird is dead, dead, dead."
for the person wondering about airports. NO
CCW does not work at any airport in the US. You try and go thu security and the Feds will have you housed( same for PO's, unless you have paper )
if you carry smart...no one will know.
6/01/2013 12:37:00 PM
Yeah until you have to use it and then face the music from the fucks that run this shittty and county.
Yeah I know, here come the macho comments about being tried by 12 instead of carried by 6... until you are tried and convicted.
How about we just take the state out of marriage.
6/01/2013 01:26:00 PM
because the state exists to grant permission.
and to impose prohibition.
it's called the enforcement of laws.
laws made by the state and enforced upon the properties of the state.
the state owns all, imposes it's will upon all, using the hands of the willing against the unwilling.
thank you for your cooperation.
To those buying guns, a great store is Rinks in Lockport. I will admit the range is like simulated night firing, but the price is always good, very nice people
6/01/2013 01:20:00 PM
aimpoint is a function of the mind.
What's that about?
6/01/2013 12:02:00 PM
willing submissives.
You sound like Jesse Jackson with his boycotting mantra.
6/01/2013 11:07:00 AM
except the motive is quite different.
I would assume someone with a FOID card could carry unloaded & enclosed in a case (transportation container carry) to their destination via CTA/Metra.
Now having a FOID or a CCW card trumps the Chicago Home Rule handgun registration as the bill states although the registration is intact for longuns.
Basically those three provisions puts a RTC license out of reach of those who need it the most - the law-abiding citizens of Shitcago.
6/01/2013 09:07:00 AM
only if those who enforce unconstitutional laws continue to do so.
"I live in the burbs and work downtown, so looks like I cannot carry to work due to the no guns on public transportation. Another lawsuit waiting to happen.
Heck with the crime on the CTA, CC is a no brainer."
The CTA and RTA is exactly where I want to be able to carry.
Are off duty police exempt from the ban on public transportation?
GATS is the spot.
haven't been in awhile. Did they open the 100 yard indoor rifle range yet?
.. large selection, best values.. Cabelas, Hammond or Gander Mountain, Merrilville.
..just great..I get on the Orange line to Midway at Clark st every day... back and forth..bad guy gets on at Halsted or Ashland. I guess Im supposed to throw a rock at him. And you Rahm carry armed security, at my expense wherever you go. You are an arrogant little punk , with emphasis on the little..
Interesting that the fee for civilian concealed carry for 5 years is $150. and for a retired officer is $100. for 1 year under the IROCC provision of concealed carry.
Very interesting. Maybe now that Daley is gone and the new law is passed, the price might come down. Daley is the one that tried to make it difficult or impossible for retired officers to carry when retired. Thats why he made the fee high, wouldnt let the retired officers use the city rannge a nd made them drive to like Joliet to qualify He also wouldnt give the required retirement documentation and force the retirees to get it from the pension board, The letter came from the pension board because the city wouldnt do it
..front pocket. Ruger lcp or lcr. No one will ever know.
I would like to see a veto. Constitutional carry would be best.
A question from a citizen. I work in the Loop, live in Indiana. I have a CC Permit in Indiana. If signed by Quinn, is there a provision in the proposed law for out-of-state applicants for an Illinois CC Permit?
Thank you.
Why did Rahm push his DePaul bill through? Remember that Rosemont had the gall to nose in on the cubs negotiations by offering up free land. The DePaul move is nothing more than a Rahm spanking to Rosemont for getting in his way... at tax payers expense.
Some of the gun blogs are saying that this puts an end to the Chicago CFP and registration requirments, giving ISP total authority over all firearms . If true, wonderful news for City gun owners.
Good to see that nancy pelosi had 3 USSS agents with her on Tuesday to see the stones concert. She being anti gun and all that.
OT. "Game Over"
Oklahoma appeals court rules dash-cam videos are public records
By RHETT MORGAN World Staff Writer on May 31, 2013, at 1:34 PM
http://www.tulsaworld.com/article.aspx/Oklahoma_appeals_court_rules_dash_cam_videos_are_public/20130531_12_0_OKLAHO714650?subj=1
Illinois does not have a Conceal Carry Law, it has a gun registry, just like the Feds want. As for Lisa Madigan, a friend of mine grew up with her, I guess she was real hard core with the shit when she was young.
Weren't both votes in the state legislature by veto proof majorities? Quinn can veto it and its still law. He just gets to say he vetoed it if it goes south.
Anybody in the 10th District and 41st ward that thought that Mulroe or Occoner were friends of the Police are nuts.They are both extreme liberal Democrats,who never had any use for the Police.Look how they carried the 41st ward for Obama,do you think that would have happened with Doherty and Gavin.What a shame we went from a conservative Republican ward to a district/ward represented by extreme liberals who support the bust outs West of Cumberland Section 8 recipients and LINK abusers.
Anonymous said...
Interesting that the fee for civilian concealed carry for 5 years is $150. and for a retired officer is $100. for 1 year under the IROCC provision of concealed carry.
6/01/2013 11:53:00 AM
The State of Illinois doe not miss a trick in screwing us over, not once but twice! Anything to make a buck off of us, again!
But the IRROC gives you the right to carry in ALL States and even on the CTA.
6/01/2013 02:02:00 PM
For now, yes. But that will change when concealed carry gets approved by Quinn- then no concealed carry in all the places they don't want anyone to carry, except for criminals of course. No CC on CTA, parks, public buildings, post office, etc,etc, etc!!!
RIDE THE CTA -
Crime Time, All-the-time
No guns allowed - so it's 100% safe for criminals to "do their thing".
How stupid! You should be able to carry anywhere, all the time.
This should be a great deterrent - for attracting ridership on the CTA.(except for criminals)
I wouldn't risk my life. Ridership should go down.
Next case.
I guess the trash will not be coming to the gold coast anymore !
Now the good people on the Southside can defend themselves when the perisite try to rob them.
This is going to be quite interesting.
Does me CC on a Divvy bike share bicycle count as public transit?
Anonymous said...
Interesting that the fee for civilian concealed carry for 5 years is $150. and for a retired officer is $100. for 1 year under the IROCC provision of concealed carry.
Very interesting. Maybe now that Daley is gone and the new law is passed, the price might come down. Daley is the one that tried to make it difficult or impossible for retired officers to carry when retired. Thats why he made the fee high, wouldnt let the retired officers use the city rannge a nd made them drive to like Joliet to qualify He also wouldnt give the required retirement documentation and force the retirees to get it from the pension board, The letter came from the pension board because the city wouldnt do it
6/01/2013 05:47:00 PM
Wrong. The City has nothing to do with the $75 fee for IROCC. State runs the program. However the $75 a year fee is exhorbitant considering Joe citizen will only pay $150 for five years..
Anonymous said...
Interesting that the fee for civilian concealed carry for 5 years is $150. and for a retired officer is $100. for 1 year under the IROCC provision of concealed carry.
Very interesting. Maybe now that Daley is gone and the new law is passed, the price might come down. Daley is the one that tried to make it difficult or impossible for retired officers to carry when retired. Thats why he made the fee high, wouldnt let the retired officers use the city rannge a nd made them drive to like Joliet to qualify He also wouldnt give the required retirement documentation and force the retirees to get it from the pension board, The letter came from the pension board because the city wouldnt do it
6/01/2013 05:47:00 PM
My Lt (formerly called watch commander) signed mine and I got my card just fine.
Anyone know if the restrictions and banned places would apply to retired POs?
Anonymous said...
Did Emanuel try to push a bill through Springfield giving him the right to not make payments into the Chicago teachers' pensions for this year ? This corruption never ends. Pensions are not piggy banks for these politicians.
6/01/2013 01:01:00 PM
Yes, he most certainly did. He had his pet shill Elaine Nekrtiz whip out his bullshit theft attempt on the legislature at approximately 12:00 pm on the LAST DAY of the session, without ANY legislator being aware he was gonna try and pull the bullshit move. Nekritz attempted the same fucking excuse the democRATS have always used to steal from pensions, "we don't wanna hafta take money from OTHER more popular programs to pay for pensions".
She was summarily shot down by 2 or 3 REPUBLICAN house members who thoroughly took a shit all over her AND Emanuel for even THINKING they could ever attempt to steal from the pensions again.
One rep apologized to the teachers for the last 16 years of theft from their pensions by the democRATs.
Nice to hear a house rep admit that the teacher's fund was 100% funded in 1997, and that ever since then the RATS have controlled the house and granted themselves the theft of over 12 BILLION DOLLARS from the teachers fund.
He actually called what they did THEFT and given away to connected crony programs.
And of course, Nekritz just shit up the same lies and excuses so popular from the RATS, "it doesn't matter how we got here ( meaning it doesn't matter that WE stole their money) , what matters is that Chicago doesn't want to have to take money from other more popular programs to pay for pensions"
FUCK this cunt and FUCK Emanuel the cocksucker. Hopefully they tried to keep it quiet because they actually WANTED to steal the money rather than attempt to parlay their bullshit into another cry of false poverty.
So NOW, all those low funding numbers will start to go UP.... and this pisses the fucktard mayor off to no end because it kills his sales points for trying to kill employee pensions.
By 2014, if funded as the law now demands, all city pension funds will show INCREASES in their funding ratios and the cocksucker Emanuel's excuses of a "crisis" will be gone.
"Anonymous said...
The cost of training and public transportation ban opens it to civil rights law suits. ACLU has sued similar laws as exclusionary of the poor stating that the process, cost and denial of movement amounts to a "back-door ban" on most poor, law abiding residents." 6/01/2013 07:34:00 AM
Very well said and I totally agree. Another hugely expensive lawsuit is is on the horizon that the State will lose and the taxpayers will get stuck paying the SAF/NRA/ACLU attorney's fees as usual. A total waste of money because the problem was easily avoidable but for the hystrionics of the gun-banners.
Why did Rahm push his DePaul bill through? Remember that Rosemont had the gall to nose in on the cubs negotiations by offering up free land. The DePaul move is nothing more than a Rahm spanking to Rosemont for getting in his way... at tax payers expense.
So true. Private university with deep pockets and now its using our TAX dollars to expand. It was a shot at Rosemont, remember they played out there for years and were so bad they couldn't fill the smaller stadium.
The Madigans, anyone that would vote for her needs their head checked. 40 years of daddy and look at the financial shape this state is in!
If its her or Potato head who would you pick? Not saying I wouldn't pick the Republican in the General.
I live in the burbs and work downtown, so looks like I cannot carry to work due to the no guns on public transportation. Another lawsuit waiting to happen.
Heck with the crime on the CTA, CC is a no brainer.
Give me a break. You work DT and take the CTA during the 8-5 time. What crime happens during that time.Like your employer is going to let you have a gun at your work location. that time?
To anyone who is excited about the new concealed carry law and plans to rush out and gear up - DO NOT BUY YOUR GEAR AT MEGA SPORTS!! Since the new carry law allows the Chicago AWB to remain intact regarding long guns, I presume Mega Sports will continue in their utterly stupid and irrational store policy of PROHIBITING Cook County residents from purchasing AR's or any other long gun classified as as "assault weapon." Until Mega Sports embraces the 2nd Amendment as it should and allows all of its customers the ability to buy anything in the store, you should do yourself and everyone else a favor and take your $$$$ somewhere else, like GAT Guns, Maxon, Chucks etc. If we all speak with our wallets, Mega Sports will hopefully listen.
6/01/2013 06:27:00 AM
You sound like Jesse Jackson with his boycotting mantra.
6/01/2013 11:07:00 AM
Doubtful that Jesse would hit the streets in da hood with a bullhorn protesting for the right to buy an AR-15 at Megasports.
If a store has an arbitrary policy that doesn't let cook county residents buy AR's, then cook residents shouldn't reward the store by buying concealable handguns, carry holsters, ammo etc. There are other stores who will gladly accept your money that don't discriminate.
Megasports should stand with those that want our gun rights and the 2nd Amendment respected, not with the gun-banning nuts. Until they do, you have the choice to go somewhere else - and should.
Everybody carry anywhere you want now ! Who's checking ? 220 different jurisdictions in just Il. I always carry in casinos, hospitals, taverns, everywhere I go, except airports.
Anonymous said...
Anyone know if the restrictions and banned places would apply to retired POs?
Yes according to HR218 entity's can restrict carry concealed on private property. Just as the Safe School act prohibits HR218 carry by retired and off duty p.o.s
6/02/2013 05:58AM In answer to your question if a retired PO is carrying under HR218 (LEOSA)no... these ban(s) do not apply to him because he can carry anywhere an active PO can carry his gun off duty anywhere in the country. If you carry under this act which is about to be passed in Illinois....yes you are restricted to where and what regular citizens carry.
Does me CC on a Divvy bike share bicycle count as public transit?
6/01/2013 10:13:00 PM
yes, but only if you return the bike.
6/01/2013 09:07:00 PM
You can't be a cop...010 District isn't anywhere near the 41st Ward...
And 010 is in 22nd Ward with Munoz and not Mulroe or O'Connor.
41st Ward is in the 16th District.
Speaking of 010 however...how the F$#@ did Pena get that district?
Quinn has to Veto it or its Lisa Lisa Lisa
FLOP Shields Capparelli Silent
My Florida CC trumps IL so can I carry on CTA with it? Watch for the calls to the Po Po about this too
Megasports = MegaPRICES. No thanks.
You forgot MEGA ATTITUDE as well
Not LEO friendly Not Customer friendly and when the current hysteria is over the place will be a ghost town after they have pissed off most of the Gun community
Does this help explain
The federal law established guidelines allowing experienced retired or off-duty officers who maintain proper training, to obtain certification allowing him or her to carry concealed firearms. Essentially the Act's purpose was to create a shared national policy between states allowing officers to carry their firearms wherever they are, granted they are qualified and have received credentials per the Act to do so. With some limitations, LEOSA trumps state law, local ordinances and local policy that restrict concealed weapon carry outside of the badge.
Very interesting. Maybe now that Daley is gone and the new law is passed, the price might come down. Daley is the one that tried to make it difficult or impossible for retired officers to carry when retired. Thats why he made the fee high, wouldnt let the retired officers use the city rannge a nd made them drive to like Joliet to qualify He also wouldnt give the required retirement documentation and force the retirees to get it from the pension board, The letter came from the pension board because the city wouldnt do it
6/01/2013 05:47:00 PM
My Lt (formerly called watch commander) signed mine and I got my card just fine.
Have no idea what you are talking about ,but IRocc required documentation from your employer showing you were a po for at least 15 years. Below is a question asked on the IROCC website
Q. The department I retired from will not issue a photo identification card and will not certify me as having met the requirements. Can I get the required certification and ID card somewhere else?
A. No. Before you can be certified through a course of fire you must have a photo identification card issued by your department indicating you are eligible.
THE FUN HAS BEGUN?
Now we need an AMENDMENT for ammunition and a no smoking within 10,000 feet of Nepalitino?
@ 6/02/2013 07:30:00 AM
Very true about Jesse not protesting for the rights of regular people to own an AR-15.
Starve Megasports out of business...
There are too many other places that will be very happy to not treat you like shit because you're a Cook County resident contemplating wanting to spend YOUR hard earned money at their place.
Commie bastards...
America
Anonymous said...
if you carry smart...no one will know.
6/01/2013 12:37:00 PM
Yeah until you have to use it and then face the music from the fucks that run this shittty and county.
Yeah I know, here come the macho comments about being tried by 12 instead of carried by 6... until you are tried and convicted.
6/01/2013 04:01:00 PM
You're absolutely right. Some copper looking for a gun pinch will lock you up in a heartbeat. Second amendment my a**. "Look boss I got a gun pinch,'can I leave early?"
the best thing that could happen is quinn signs it as is and the court says "not good enough" and issues the mandate anyway.
Great, so I can carry at home but because I take Metra into the city for work, I can't legally carry where I need it most. Thanks Springfield!
As a woman, I'm glad to know in the event of rape/mugging my options are still to shout I'm pregnant, and fend off my attacker by throwing up on him. Much appreciated. >_<
To : My Florida CC trumps IL so can I carry on CTA with it? Watch for the calls to the Po Po about this too
6/02/2013 04:11:00 PM
Unless I missed something while reading the CCW law that was just passed... Illinois does not currently have resiprocity (sic) will the other 49 states CCW programs.
So a UUW charge would be valid in Illinois IF a cop had cause to stop and search you.
""As a responsible "free speecher" I want to know (9+ / 0-)
who lives in your home, their names, ages, gender, level of education and where they work.
I want to know the reason you feel the need to "free speech".
I want you to pay for "free speech safety training".
I want you to pay me $200 dollars to process this transaction.
Oh, and you STILL won't be permitted to say the word "gun" in a school, public building, church or at an airport!
Anyone know if the restrictions and banned places would apply to retired POs?
It's called HR 218 you can carry anywhere
Well the other shoe has dropped on CCW. How could anyone think Mudigan would suddenly change his mind and screw Rahm and his ilk. Lisa Madigan is going before the court to ask for a delay.
Scc, read the following editorial from a Iowa State prof who's actually not a raging liberal. About the best argument against the gun control crowd I've ever seen.
http://www.iowastatedaily.com/opinion/article_1c144792-b36d-11e2-8ac6-001a4bcf887a.html?TNNoMobile
The Constitution overrides anything Quin, either Madigan, 9.5, or McClueless says, or does. CCW is coming.
FYI - The CCW law allows the DNR Hunter Safety Course to be accepted as part of the required safety training and its FREE!!. I doubt the legislature realized that the State would pick up half the tab for training for crafty applicants when they passed the bill but at least people can avoid some of the onerous costs associated with concealed carry in IL.
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