G-Mac, Steal This Idea
- Starting Friday night in the western suburbs, North Riverside Park Mall has a new policy.
On Friday and Saturday nights, no one 17-years-old or younger can come inside the mall unless he or she is accompanied by an adult. The policy starts at 6 p.m.
The bottom line - no more hanging out at the mall, kids. Fox 32 News went to North Riverside Friday night and yes, they're checking IDs.
For several generations of kids, the mall was the default option when there was no school the next day and nothing else big was going on.
But the North Riverside Park Mall says it's become too much and the place has gotten overcrowded with kids who are not doing any shopping. They're just using the place as a rec center.
So how about Michigan Avenue merchants start using this on weekends?
Too bad there isn't a way to use it on the whole of downtown as soon as the weekends kick in this summer. Kind of like a curfew for the beaches, the tourist areas and any other area decent people want to spend time and money at.
UPDATE: It's private property readers, so all you claiming it's unconstitutional, you might want to reread the document in question, and if you find the words "shopping mall" anywhere, we'll donate $100 to the Police Memorial of your choice.
To the others who say we're off base, read the last paragraph - we admit there's no way to use it on the whole of downtown.
Too bad there isn't a way to use it on the whole of downtown as soon as the weekends kick in this summer. Kind of like a curfew for the beaches, the tourist areas and any other area decent people want to spend time and money at.
UPDATE: It's private property readers, so all you claiming it's unconstitutional, you might want to reread the document in question, and if you find the words "shopping mall" anywhere, we'll donate $100 to the Police Memorial of your choice.
To the others who say we're off base, read the last paragraph - we admit there's no way to use it on the whole of downtown.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
81 Comments:
001 and 018 have been nice and quite since the red line shut down. Coincidence?
An assclown idea, SCC. Lots of young (under 17) tourist$$ with money to burn (not to mention teenaged suburbanites, again, with $$ to spend), come into the city on a regular basis. The same laws that would apply to the potential 'wilding' folks would have to apply across the board, so don't expect it to happen. There are no 'inside malls' on Boul Mich, and it won't happen at Water Tower Place.
OT....
Enormous thanks to call takers and K-9 handler Sullivan of Arlington Heights PD for helping an idiot get back into his car!
Hope you guys see this!
What is so amazing is having supervisors placed in positions to perform duties that are way above their skill set, knowledge, and abilities. What is more amazing is these supervisors have the blessing of many of their exempt friends. Even a rookie can tell when a stressed supervisor is in way above his/her capacity.
Having such supervisors in sensitive positions that need a thinking tank (Brains), quick decision responses to in progress incidents (not having selective deaf ears when dispatch is calling, etc). This job is skill based, always is and was. Just because your mommy/daddy, sister/brother who were/are on the job and did well in job category (x) does not privilege you or others to be in a similar position.
Earned and not given! But who are we to judge. Mistakes happen and keep happening. Learning on this job is never ending! Why is it always acceptable that officer x, a relative of y, can be given such privileges. Where are the accountability measures? Fair meritorious nomination, NOT.
no worries, older play cousin can supervise the group and keep them out of trouble. shitbirds have answer for everything
OMG. Rules! I've heard of them, but never actually, like, um, EXPERIENCED them.
Big thanks to the 019th district bike cop who apparently doesn't give a fuck about professional courtesy. Fuck you buddy!
Memphis TN. Does that on Beale st. The merchant association came up with money to post guards and search any one entering the commercial dist.
This will be found to be unconstitutional
Garry's already got it.
The shut down of the Redline curtails a lot of these youts.
In October it all resumes though.
This is obviously thinly veiled racism and their Constitutional right to shop is being violated! Oh the horrors of this white oppressive society – the horror I tell you! It is a sad day when honor students can’t loot the shopping mall anymore.
so they are not spending money and just hanging out so they are not welcome--- kind of sounds like a good policy for the south and west sides--- if you are just having babies with no way to support them you need to find another place to hang out....
The mall is private property. The problems in the Michigan Ave. area are mainly happening on the public streets & sidewalks. (Stores can, and some do, limit access to and within the private property.)
They can't do that. Y'all rascist.
There I had to play the card.
Stop arresting my constituents. At least until immigration replaces them.
Insincerely,
Future Pol
Every time one of these little shits get caught downtown wilding their mamas and all the baby daddys should have 20% of their welfare taken away. Keep doing it until there is none. The only thing the parents understand is taking away the free money. Asking them to be a parent is a waste of time.
Sad that it's come to this. I hung out at the mall during my early teen years, worked there too (Evergreen). My friends and I had no other place indoors to hang out at. Sorry that the bad kids ruined it for other ones.
Except for team sports, there isn't much constructive activity for teenagers apart from working. Team sports isn''t the answer for all because smaller kids tend to get hurt.
Considering the "wilding" and other miscreant behavior of some African American youth, it was inevitable that something had to be done to contain the problem.
Great idea but unfortunately Operation Push will find 1 kid who needed Nikes or an I-Pad case and will turn this into a racist Witchhunt.
You can't the Mall is a private location and Michigan Ave is a public roadway. If you do decide to do that in Chicago it will cost us even more in court fees and more when we lose the lawsuit.
Ban Amish and Mormons from all shopping malls.
It'll never happen. emanuel wants to be sure all those scandinavian utes have some where to go and have harmless fun victimizing all those non-scandinavian shoppers & tourists.
G-Mac, Steal This Idea
Can't, it's racist. Come summer time I'm sure the rev-runs will somehow cry racism on the redline reconstruction too!
If you want to stop the nonsense on Michigan avenue you simply punish those
Seriously need new cars. Stop wasting money with Ceasefire nonsense Mr. Mayor. IT DOES NOT WORK!!
Some weasel lawyer will file a class action law suit on behalf of all the turned away teenagers for age discrimination and win. This is the new America.
He'll only steal it if it was done in New York.....
what I want to see is the saggy pants ordinance.
I believe there will be and should be a curfew ordinance made for Michigan ave and all the beaches. After 7pm anyone under the age of 17 must be accompanied by an adult. It's a shame it's come to this but when "parents" can't control their "kids" someone else has to in order for civilized citizens to be able to enjoy the city
Put VRI downtown to protect the taxpayers and tourists. Why is Garry McCarthy not doing this?
They should make it more restrictive. Each child must be accompanied by their biological father. Problem Solved.
I would love to see the Taste do this.
Checked the whole Constitution and didn't find "shopping mall" in there anywhere. But I did find listed once in the Declaration of Independence, does that count?
What is so amazing is having supervisors placed in positions to perform duties that are way above their skill set, knowledge, and abilities. What is more amazing is these supervisors have the blessing of many of their exempt friends. Even a rookie can tell when a stressed supervisor is in way above his/her capacity.
Having such supervisors in sensitive positions that need a thinking tank (Brains), quick decision responses to in progress incidents (not having selective deaf ears when dispatch is calling, etc). This job is skill based, always is and was. Just because your mommy/daddy, sister/brother who were/are on the job and did well in job category (x) does not privilege you or others to be in a similar position.
Earned and not given! But who are we to judge. Mistakes happen and keep happening. Learning on this job is never ending! Why is it always acceptable that officer x, a relative of y, can be given such privileges. Where are the accountability measures? Fair meritorious nomination, NOT.
6/02/2013 12:20:00 AM
Who are you talking about? Kennedy or Georgas?
Anonymous said...
Big thanks to the 019th district bike cop who apparently doesn't give a fuck about professional courtesy. Fuck you buddy!
6/02/2013 12:32:00 AM
Since you didn't go into detail, what happened??? Did you park illegally like a jerkoff who believes he's above the law and rules don't apply to you and were given a parking ticket??????
This is a violation of my right to stealing and walk about wit' my jeans fallin' off my butt! I am callin' the ACLU & Rainbow Push to file me a lawsuit!
Kinda reminds me of the lovely United Center who hires off-duty Chicago police for security.
But if you are off duty and carry a weapon in the place guess what you cannot bring it in.
So feel free to ignore crime in these areas they have it all under control.
And yes hockey fans have been robbed at this venue GO HAWKS!
Anyone remember Randhurst shopping mall? The first large scale covered mall in America. Daley moved section 8 and illegals from the city into the Boxwood area next door and all the shops moved out. It's been rebuilt as a mostly outdoor mall so gang bangers don't hang out much any more. Just a shadow of itself.
They'll just hang in the parking lot and make you dash to the mall like a loggerhead turtle hatchling running to the safety of the sea.
SCC I thought you were joking about someone claiming this to be unconstitutional, guess you weren't. That really pisses me off. 17yo can't vote, unconstitutuonal? 17yo can't drink alcohol and/or use tobacco products. How about that one? Can't buy porn... Can't rent a car. What a douche. That idiot needs to read up on his constitution. Shame. Amerikuh!?!?
A little off the subject:
Rahm Emanuel got his second bitchslap from organized labor yesterday. First the.teachers. Second Laborers Union 1001, voted out the incumbants who agreed to a starting wage that was $16,000 a year less than what Waste Management was paying non union employees for the same city work.
Third time's the charm FOP.
---mike.the city worker
They should do that to Water Tower Place.
Lord and Taylor's miss me so badly.
Now. Kees me you fool!!!!
YOU FOOLS !!!!!!!!!!
You have allowed, and are now subsidizing generations of people. People,who have a entirely different concept of American. People who feel they are owned a free ride, by America. Playing, and Helping Themselves To The Stuff Rich People Deprived Them of,are part of the rights afforded to them, by voting democratic. You think you can stop this movement by chasing them out of a shopping mall, or posting police to watch them on Michigan Ave.
YOU FOOLS !!!!!!!!!!!
This is much bigger than this, and its growing, all the time. Its not going to end, until the money runs out and the rent comes due.
Then It's Going To Get Really Ugly !
Wait To You Tell Them The Money Is Gone, and The Free Ride, And Free Stuff, is Over !!!
Read the Robins v. Pruneyard (free speech rights may trump private propertyrights) decision and let me know if you still think enclosed shopping malls are as "private" as your comment suggests. This action by North Riverside Mall is directly on point as a First Amendment issue.
OT.... Fran Hurley and the minions voted to have cpd and cfd switch to Obama care for retirees. When are you people gonna learn, your friends are not your friends when it comes to politics
Because they're liberal pieces of shit who don't like the police unless they need them. Period.
To the asshat who did something wrong in 019 and expected "professional courtesy"....You were wrong, you didn't get away with it (most likely because you were being an asshat) and now you become even more of an asshat by complaining on a public venue. Go away and grow up you fool!!!
Anonymous said...
An assclown idea, SCC. Lots of young (under 17) tourist$$ with money to burn (not to mention teenaged suburbanites, again, with $$ to spend), come into the city on a regular basis. The same laws that would apply to the potential 'wilding' folks would have to apply across the board, so don't expect it to happen. There are no 'inside malls' on Boul Mich, and it won't happen at Water Tower Place.
6/02/2013 12:09:00 AM
Lighten up rahm, don't you recognize sarcasm and silliness when you see it?
Now isn't it time for you to take another vacation?
BS on the racist card. IT's a bunch of stupid kids who happen to be black.
Dis a white boy solution !
B Rush
Anonymous said...
An assclown idea, SCC. Lots of young (under 17) tourist$$ with money to burn (not to mention teenaged suburbanites, again, with $$ to spend), come into the city on a regular basis. The same laws that would apply to the potential 'wilding' folks would have to apply across the board, so don't expect it to happen. There are no 'inside malls' on Boul Mich, and it won't happen at Water Tower Place.
6/02/2013 12:09:00 AM
Last time I checked, there were at least 3...Water Tower Place, 900 N. Michigan Shops and North Bridge at Michigan & Grand. Just because it's not on one or 2 levels, doesn't mean a place isn't a mall.
Water Tower already posts signs on each level warning people that they will be ejected for loud, obnoxious behavior.
And the bad behavior isn't unique to south side malls and Michigan Ave. The HIP used to be a cesspool of NW side kids acting like fools, until they implemented loitering rules....Does the name Frank Balzano ring a bell? I won't go to Lincolnwood Towne Center anymore due to the BS that goes on out there. Have you been to Old Orchard lately? I've been to many other suburban malls, where the kids out there are just as obnoxious and rude as our little homegrown heathens.
At last, an alternative to Lisa Madigan and Bill Daley for governor.
Dan Rutherford (R) announced he is running for governor. As long as he isn't a pedophile he is worth voting for. Stick it to Madigan.
http://www.danrutherford.org
Wonderful policy. Too bad the mall is ford city north. Ford city south should adopt this policy.
As long as we are dreaming: What about an intelligence test to vote or mandating parenting class for pregnant couples? Hahahaha
OT....
SCC check it out.
Anyone have any info on what took place at the CPD Pension Board office Sunday May 26. Someone jumped from the 16th floor pension office to LaSalle street.
Was this a break in.
Was anything stolen. (files-data-etc.)
Was this an employee.
How did this person get in the office. The office is closed on weekends.
Where was security.
The comptroller is the acting executive director and she is not answering any questions.
Anyone have any info.
First of all, tourist are not going to be in North Riverside. I like the idea... They should implement ID checks at the Water Tower
Off subject:
Any one no is Chic Police retired police assoc Vegas is still around. Fop link and google search only shows a pink page. Looking for a realtor who supports cpd
Anyone have any info on what took place at the CPD Pension Board office Sunday May 26. Someone jumped from the 16th floor pension office to LaSalle street.
Was this a break in.
Was anything stolen. (files-data-etc.)
Was this an employee.
How did this person get in the office. The office is closed on weekends.
Where was security.
The comptroller is the acting executive director and she is not answering any questions.
Anyone have any info.
According to newspaper there was an employee in there after hours and jumped. Said no explanation why he was there after hours. As far as security, if you are an employee and have keys, how can then keep you out
Kinda reminds me of the lovely United Center who hires off-duty Chicago police for security.
But if you are off duty and carry a weapon in the place guess what you cannot bring it in.
So feel free to ignore crime in these areas they have it all under control.
And yes hockey fans have been robbed at this venue GO HAWKS!
Don't work there beat off.
Go Hawks!
OT. Please do a topic on FOP political endorsements under Shields. So far Madigan , bill Cunningham Fran Hurley. All who voted to go after our medical. Look it up
It's a shame it's come to this but when "parents" can't control their "kids" someone else has to in order for civilized citizens to be able to enjoy the city
It's "parent", singular.
Every time one of these little shits get caught downtown wilding their mamas and all the baby daddys should have 20% of their welfare taken away. Keep doing it until there is none. The only thing the parents understand is taking away the free money. Asking them to be a parent is a waste of time.
6/02/2013 06:21:00 AM
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Are you kidding?
These must be the words from God because no mortal in Chicago - or Illinois for that matter, has the clearness of observation, vision and truth that these written words represent.
We MUST institute this as immediate policy because they are the direct words from God.
Ot was that tobias behind quinnville being interviewed?
The State Legislature quietly past a law forcing retired Chicago Police and Fire and other city retirees into Obama Care come January 2014. The Royal screwing has just started.
Big thanks to the 019th district bike cop who apparently doesn't give a fuck about professional courtesy. Fuck you buddy!
6/02/2013 12:32:00 AM
Let me guess you rolled Addison and Clark just as 30.000 fans were coming out of a game. Professional Courtesy. .....what does that mean? If you act professionally the on-duty will act with courtesy? How about if you parked legally, drove legally, and acted professionally, you and the 019 bike unit WOULDN'T EVEN HAVE TALKED......
It wont happen at many stores because their bosses wouldn't allow it.
Talked to security and questioned why they were letting certain groups in.
They said it's policy, and said they pleaded with their bosses to change rules
Stopped shopping at the North Riverside Mall years ago. It was becoming a gang infested dump. The increased security should have been added years sooner. It is probably too late to change the public perception that the mall is unsafe.
This is not merely a Chicago area problem. It is happening nationally. Similar episodes have occurred at the Mayfair Mall (suburban Milwaukee) and the Mall of America (Twin Cities area).
The unruly youths in each of these locations match the descriptions of those engaged in wilding here.
SCC hit it on the head.
Private property : "We have the right to refuse service to anyone"
The mall also has it right, they're not a babysitting service.
OT; Motorist leave their cars on the Kennedy to walk to O'hare this morning as traffic was at a standstill.
LMAO..hey mayor build another runway hahaha..At least 70 people left their cars this morning!!.
State police were concerned for our safety -- because you know -- a highway with all those speeding cars and trucks is dangerous.
Only problems is that no-one was going ANYWHERE.
The word expressway conjures up images of traffic moving 55 MPH plus. This so-called expressway was a parking lot this AM and we call that World-Class here in Raim-allah-land.
It's a police that is ultimately unenforceable, if contested. If police are called to enforce this policy, the ACLU will be licking their chops. While the mall is "private" property, most of it is open to the general public during normal business hours. You can't exclude a group based on race, age, gender, etc., to a place that is otherwise open to the public. I believe they should be able to implement this reasonable police but the liberal courts would probably think otherwise
If only we could get Ford City on board.... Signed Bt 803
Big thanks to the 019th district bike cop who apparently doesn't give a fuck about professional courtesy. Fuck you buddy!
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I have your professional courtesy right here sweetie!!
Except for team sports, there isn't much constructive activity for teenagers apart from working. Team sports isn''t the answer for all because smaller kids tend to get hurt.
Tough shit. Not my problem. Not the Mall owner's problem. Not the store's problem. It's the PARENTS problem - let the figure it out with their kids.
Just some suggestions:
1) Read a book. If you don't have any, there are magical locations called LIBRARIES... But you do have to know how to read. If you don't - visit your local SCHOOL - it'll ensure you have something to do throughout your life because you'll have SKILLS that people will want to pay for.
2) Sit and stare at the wall.
3) Talk to your friends - person to person... quietly please. The whole block doesn't need to hear the shuck and jive.
4) Clean something. Start with your neighborhood and removing the tagging crapola.
5) Do something nice for someone. Cut their grass. Take out their trash. Help them out with something else.
6) Paint something - no taggin' - actual, real deal painting so the place doesn't look like a shit hole.
7) Get a job. If you can't get a job, create a LEGAL business. Clean up. cut lawns. Wash cars. Shovel snow. Wash windows. Paint. Sell lemonade. Lifeguard at the pool. Caddy at a golf course. Work at some rental stand or another...
But see #1 about reading and school first, otherwise #7 isn't gonna pan out.
I told you!
Anonymous said...
They should make it more restrictive. Each child must be accompanied by their biological father. Problem Solved.
6/02/2013 08:37:00 AM
Please let me know IF this is ever implemented.
I'll open a free standing boof (sic) right outside the Mall and sell DNA tests.
Maury Povich already is on board as a silent partner.
Thank You.
Anonymous said...
001 and 018 have been nice and quite since the red line shut down. Coincidence?
Yes sir. 001 and 018 have been quiet, like the rest of the city, because of cold weather and rain. If it ever warms up to normal and above normal temps, see what happens then.
I have never heard that curfews for underage people have failed to pass Constitutional muster. Having one in Chicago sounds like a good idea to me. I do wonder, how will the increased work load on the already understaffed CPD balance against having a percentage of troublemakers off the streets?
This is already in place in Milwaukee on weekends and "when needed".
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Big thanks to the 019th district bike cop who apparently doesn't give a fuck about professional courtesy. Fuck you buddy!
6/02/2013 12:32:00 AM
Since you didn't go into detail, what happened??? Did you park illegally like a jerkoff who believes he's above the law and rules don't apply to you and were given a parking ticket??????
6/02/2013 09:06:00 AM
Anonymous said...
To the asshat who did something wrong in 019 and expected "professional courtesy"....You were wrong, you didn't get away with it (most likely because you were being an asshat) and now you become even more of an asshat by complaining on a public venue. Go away and grow up you fool!!!
6/02/2013 11:22:00 AM
Mr./Mrs. quotations,
I can see that you apparently have never heard of the term. Rather than define it for you on here, I suggest you walk into your next roll call, find someone with more than three weeks on the job, and ask them about it. While your at it, ask them what the whole "police etiquette" thing is all about. The rest of the department will be better for it once you figure it out. Just in case you're still struggling with the concept, I'll give you a brief synopsis. It involves utilizing discretion based on the circumstance you're in. I was addressing one specific person in an effort to help them realize that they made a dickhead decision. It wasn't a jab at every bike cop in 019, just one. I certainly think attitude should impact discretion, but apparently in this particular case it didn't.
If you want to be the type of guy/girl who never exercises discretion in an effort to fill your court key, then so be it, that's your right. But it's also my right to say "fuck you" when I think you're being an asshole.
Let me emphasize again, I wasn't trying to discredit all the bike cops in 019, just one in particular. I give the rest of you all the credit in the world for dealing with all the drunken nonsense that goes on around Wrigley.
Your right SCC they have the right to walk where they please outdoors although there is a park or beach curfew 23:00HRS.If they start their shit you could charge w/mob action?We all know what they really need but the country has become too pussified for that kind of action.
Yes, there were incidents at the Mall of America. However, several years ago they implemented the same policy (I expect the Illinois mall copied the Mall of America). People howled about it (racism, ageism, blah, blah, blah) but it worked, and it is still in effect. I don't know if it was formally challenged, but it is still there.
Oh yeah, I went to the Mag Mile a few times since the shutdown, very few shitbirds lurking about, just happy, happy tourists and people.
Can we sandbag that Redline project until 2020?
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