No Out-Of-Grade
The Department has banned anyone except FTO's from working with a PPO - ever.
We aren't going to reproduce the entire directive here, but you can find it in the Document Management System as B.O.P #13-0144.1 (Field Training Officers - REVISION). The pertinent portion of the directive reads as follows:
We aren't going to reproduce the entire directive here, but you can find it in the Document Management System as B.O.P #13-0144.1 (Field Training Officers - REVISION). The pertinent portion of the directive reads as follows:
- No acting Field Training Officer position will be allowed. Out of grade reports will not be approved by any Supervisor in the District for non-field training personnel. Administrative overtime will not be approved by any supervisor in the district as the non-probationary personnel will not be performing field training duties.
Failure to comply with the direction of this directive will be considered failure to comply to a direct order and may be addressed by disciplinary procedures.
So in the absence of an FTO, PPO's on their training cycles will be reassigned to (A) another FTO, (B) the desk or (C) a sergeant.We also imagine that since they have no contractual rights, their shifts can be switched and Day Off Groups changed to ensure they ride with an FTO.
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posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
96 Comments:
What absolute fuckery. Everyone knows young POs, especially BRAND NEW RECRUITS, learn from riding with many different officers. It's just as important to learn the don'ts as the dos. Nobody in this agency gives a rats ass about the training of these PPOs, or building efficient officers in general. It's enraging and disgusting. I fear for the new PPOs; for there safety and their careers.
Ha I guess we are not getting any FTOs soon in 005. All but one jumped ship. Might as well not be a training Dist after this
Why are they so dead-set against out-of-grade?
More nonsense from McClueless and his merry band of idiots. And I really wanted the 45 mins of comp time and extra thirty bucks (really, how much is it now? The last time I worked out-of-grade with a PPO, I think it was $22 after taxes!).
Good luck, all the PPO's coming out now, you're going to need it.
Good. Because just like vri, when the smell of money surfaces the lazy cops all of a sudden want to be acting ftos. Then they collect the out of grade and 45 mins but dont teach the recruits anything but bad habits or simply use a ppo as someone to work with because they are scared to be 99 or nobody wants to work with them. Fto section is really making progress!
Our commander has already been kicking slips back for officers who were acting fto's. denying them the fto pay for the day. Its nuts. So they'd rather have the recruit work the desk then pay an officer an extra $13 to have the recruit on the street learning. We have 2 fto's on our watch and I believe 5 recruits. There's just not enough fto's.
This just says what the previous BOP order stayted: no ot, no out of grade and no training. what you do with the ppos is up to you. It doesnt state you cant hit the street and answer calls along with them. The problem is, who is responsible when they get hurt? plus if you are not going to "field train" them during the tour, you basically have some ride-alongs with some theory of policing in them.
What a disgusting way to treat your employees. My bad, this is chicago...
This is the set up to fix blame...
*If all you veteran Coppers weren't so selfish and writing bad things about the "new and improved" FTO program on that bad blog, we could have snared more suckers uhhh... had more people take the exam and we wouldn't have to resort to this.*
This is an artifice and a device by the department to get revenge for people refusing to bite on an FTO program how they repeatedly and thoroughly fucked up at every turn for the last 30 years.
It makes no fucking sense and it's a continuation of bad fucking field training policy.
They're desperate to make it look like they're doing "something" even to the point of using recruits as cannon fodder just because they have no real protection.
Well, I'm an FTO and I'm the only one on my watch. So I can't really take off/use comp time because there's no one to take them for the shift. So I get screwed a bit. I think they are doing this to get more people to become FTOs. Probably won't work and eventually we'll be back to outta grade slips for everyone.
hey have them watch "Chicago PD."
They want to be jags then it's time to start telling PPO's , don't ask me ask an FTO or sergeant.
Leave them in the back seat with an extra door handle and answer up 99!
Don't forget to feed them. The company can't stop the clock on their probation, unless they get them or us killed to save money?
Anonymous said...
Good. Because just like vri, when the smell of money surfaces the lazy cops all of a sudden want to be acting ftos. Then they collect the out of grade and 45 mins but dont teach the recruits anything but bad habits or simply use a ppo as someone to work with because they are scared to be 99 or nobody wants to work with them. Fto section is really making progress!
6/03/2013 01:41:00 AM
Nothing like the smell of a young punk officer not getting VRI because " lazy cops" are taking it.
Now STFU kid and wait your turn like everyone else did.
By the way, life ain't fair. There aren't trophies for everyone in the real world.
Any time I see our F.T.O.'s riding around in the "Mystery Machine" and the F.T.O. lets Velma, Scooby and Shaggy out, I laugh out loud.
Sounds like in 2 years we're going to have hundreds of young officers that don't know what the fuck they're doing. Great stuff. This department is in deeper shit than I ever imagined it could be.
Can you say "lawsuit". This is a perfect setup for a " failure to train" lawsuit which can be brought by a citizen or the recruit ( and maybe even officers impacted). All the present "policies" which are essentially $saving strategies are going to come back and bite this city in the a$$ and will cost hundreds of times the minuscule $ they saved...
It's going to be very interesting when these recruits become involved in lawsuits and the defense for the plaintiff begins to rip the city apart regarding their poor and inadequate training. This for sure will lead to early and large payouts in order to prevent headline stories regarding inept training.
When is the next Sgts class? It looks like they will be babysitting the new PPOs.
I love showing the new P.P.O.'s how the department really works. I love teaching and showing them how they really don't care about you. In two weeks, I turned new officers into the equivalent of a 22 year bitter veteran. Some of my colleagues congratulated me. One of my recruits said it best "all I plan on doing is answering my calls on the pdt and never getting out of my car unless I have to".
That was bound to happen anyways. It was going to happen in seven or ten years. But I just accelerated the process.
This is because of shackman, acting up. Also MLAS and HR. I heard patrol was really pissed. Because this scenario was brought up over and over.
What about PPOs who are partnered together working Operation Impact? Obviously pay isn't a factor, but they don't have a sergeant with them at all times.
Whatever, still put in the slips. Grieve it
If PPOs cannot do "field duties" and you are assigned to work with a PPO, then that means you do not have to do "field duties" like answer radio calls. This essentially means you are 99. And at any call, the PPO has to sit in the car.
Just consistency in the no out of grade policy. No acting desk sergeants, there is no more watch commander position and no OOG for anyone covering for District Commanders on furlough. We are saving money...and losing the war on crime.
Were you one of the lazy cops that worked with a PPO and dogged it for the extra pay? Speak for yourself. I have seen the majority of non-FTO's work with recruits and do a very good if not a better job than most FTO's.
I know everybody hates this but from a fiscal/management prospective, this may be genius. They will still be assigning recruits to cars and will avoid the payment of the out-of-grade. Recruits will continue to get the same "training" they were getting before (which was probably minimal) and the acting-FTO won't have to worry about filing out the evaluation, most of which were useless anyway. The only loser here will be the recruit that nobody likes because he/she will continue to be mostly untrained.
Pure CPD genius albeit short-sighted!
No the order does not say that. PPO's in a training cycle cannot work the street with anyone except another FTO or ride with a SGT. The purpose of that order is to stop the influx of grievances by non-FTO's putting out of grade slips in. They figure if PPO's cannot work with non
FTO's then their will be no grievances because no one has a reason to submit an out of grade. The previous order said that PPO's can work with non-FTO's but will not perform Field Training duties; this led to the influx of out of grade slips and the subsequent grievances.
Who cares as long as I don't have to work with them.
Why are they so dead-set against out-of-grade?
6/03/2013 12:39:00 AM
All the $$$ spent on VRI?
Stop voting for him.
they won't pay sgts to be the dss out of grade or a blue shirt to be the play sgt on the desk--- the department does whatever they want no matter what the contract says--- file all the grievances you want and they laugh even harder--- I wouldn't mind working with a ppo once in awhile if no fto was available and I don't need out of grade pay....
The problem is that no matter how many FTO tests they give, few officers want the job and they can't order you to do it.
So does this mean that a veteran officer cannot
assist a PPO in making
an arrest ? This directive
is silly and potentially
dangerous to the young
officers if and when they
are on the street epecially
since they are being deployed on the west and south side. Whomever wrote
this directive did they consider the ramifications
of what they were doing ?
Does an fto have to be standing on the corner with them??? Oh, it's about the money.
Sgt's laughed at roll when they heard that
What fuckery is this. Have the bosses SENN some of the "FTOs"? Dog ass cops who hide as FTOs to avoid having to take a bunch of jobs. They use the PPO as an excuse to do NOTHING. You want these PPOs to only ride with them? Shit, some of the best fucking training these kids get is when they ride with an non-FTO who shows them how to do ACTUAL POLICE WORK instead of sit on jobs as you write paper and make notifications.
OT: Can anyone shed light into an incident in 006 dist where a shitbird walks by and bumps into a female ppo. Then tells her "get out of my way bitch!" He then gives a ghetto handshake and engages into a conversation with a much older cooper, all the while looking into her direction and making snide remarks. When the female ppo told the shitbird to leave or her will be arrested, the older copper told her to "shut the fuck you, bitch!"
Good thing for her she stepped up to the plate and defended herself. But, this shithead of a cooper to embarrass another copper like that and act like a typical shitbird while in uniform is unexceptible!!!
Worked the President's detail with a PPO last week and it was a very enjoyable tour of duty. They took them all out the night before and showed them what needed to be done at their assigned posts. It was nice to work with a young, enthusiastic officer for a change. These kids may not have street smarts, but don't treat them like they don't know anything; they're still knowledgable and eager to learn. I didn't even think about out of grade pay. You can't whine about being short-handed and then not be willing to help these kids out.
Anonymous said...
This just says what the previous BOP order stayted: no ot, no out of grade and no training. what you do with the ppos is up to you. It doesnt state you cant hit the street and answer calls along with them. The problem is, who is responsible when they get hurt? plus if you are not going to "field train" them during the tour, you basically have some ride-alongs with some theory of policing in them.
6/03/2013 02:30:00 AM
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This is what I was thinking. They might still put a PPO with PO; the PO will not get paid extra for it.
Millions in debt and they are trying to save nickels. No keeses for them.
This does not bode well for any FTO's asking for a day off. I can see bosses wanting to deny time due because they want an FTO on the street with the PPO.
from the outside looking in it seems like a dirty trick to play to save a few bucks, however, it may well be based on a different issue.
FTO have been given training on how to train new cops. non-FTO have not. therefore there may well be additional legal liability involved if someone who has not been properly trained is training a new cop.
there may even be a state law or regulation about just who can train a new cop. I am pretty sure it cannot be just anyone.
not a cop
the FTO's' that bid out took their PPO's with them
Do not put them on the desk. There is no reason the desk officers should hold their hand and not get paid, any more than a street officer should hold their hand and not get paid.
Recruits running 2/3/4 deep with one FTO. Not safe. Hope there is never another Hauser/Kilroy incident.
that's what this job has become? McCarthy and Rahm and stupid rule and G.O., one after another after another. Stupid decisions, one after another after another. I once loved, lived and breathed this job, not anymore.
This just says what the previous BOP order stayted: no ot, no out of grade and no training. what you do with the ppos is up to you. It doesnt state you cant hit the street and answer calls along with them. The problem is, who is responsible when they get hurt? plus if you are not going to "field train" them during the tour, you basically have some ride-alongs with some theory of policing in them.
Whats this "Who is responsible when they get hurt?" They are police officers and who is responsible when a po gets hurt. What are you going to do, blame his partner? Is a FTO less reponsible than a po if they get hurt or are you saying because they work with a FTO they will never get hurt?
They put you with a PPO and no out of grade pay, submit a slip and file a grievance when it's denied.
Sorry to disappoint all the McCarthy haters, but this didn't come from him. It came from city hall human resources. They told the department we should never have been paying people out of grade, and they told HQ it had to stop. This includes all ranks.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why are they so dead-set against out-of-grade?
6/03/2013 12:39:00 AM
Because it COSTS MONEY.
Napoleon and McFailure being penny wise and dollar foolish.
Anonymous said...
Ha I guess we are not getting any FTOs soon in 005. All but one jumped ship. Might as well not be a training Dist after this
6/03/2013 12:25:00 AM
Those FTO's were the smart ones. They saw that as their ticket to get out of there and did so the first chance they got.
Is that why there are like 6 PPOs sitting around the front desk every damn day??? What a waste of time and resources! Until they can attract more people to the FTO program, why not pay acting FTOs? At least these PPOs would get some experience on the street with some guidance.
Wait, so someone at 35th Street wised up and figured out that it might not be the best idea in the world to stick PPOs with zero street experience out onto foot posts in the worst crime areas of the city??? Hmmmm.
In 016, a poor PPO on 3rd watch had to work his first day out of the academy on the desk..... Bet he/she learned all they needed to be the best cop in the city. LOL!
OT:
Police shooting video:
http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=e0e_1370284601
Does an fto have to be standing on the corner with them??? Oh, it's about the money.
6/03/2013 09:15:00 AM
thanks, rahm, for pointing that out.
I wouldn't mind working with a ppo once in awhile if no fto was available and I don't need out of grade pay....
6/03/2013 08:46:00 AM
then volunteer at the ppo day care center.
Pure CPD genius albeit short-sighted!
6/03/2013 08:10:00 AM
sure, an end around a labor contract, without a reach around.
yeah, pure something.
I didn't even think about out of grade pay. You can't whine about being short-handed and then not be willing to help these kids out.
6/03/2013 09:30:00 AM
then you might as well not think about having a labor contract, either.
Whats this "Who is responsible when they get hurt?" They are police officers and who is responsible when a po gets hurt. What are you going to do, blame his partner? Is a FTO less reponsible than a po if they get hurt or are you saying because they work with a FTO they will never get hurt?
6/03/2013 10:37:00 AM
count those beans, bean counter, your masters have plans for the skim.
Can you say "lawsuit". This is a perfect setup for a " failure to train" lawsuit which can be brought by a citizen or the recruit ( and maybe even officers impacted). All the present "policies" which are essentially $saving strategies are going to come back and bite this city in the a$$ and will cost hundreds of times the minuscule $ they saved...
The old "failure to train" lawsuit. Where did you come up with that shit? There are no laws relating to how long you have to train an officer. Then whats next, the ppo sent to 016 can use the "failure to train" argument that he didnt get the same training as the ppo from 007 or 011
City and CPD can set there own training standards and times
But I just accelerated the process.
6/03/2013 07:32:00 AM
from a certain perspective, we do have something in common.
Chalkie
I love showing the new P.P.O.'s how the department really works. I love teaching and showing them how they really don't care about you. In two weeks, I turned new officers into the equivalent of a 22 year bitter veteran. Some of my colleagues congratulated me. One of my recruits said it best "all I plan on doing is answering my calls on the pdt and never getting out of my car unless I have to".
That was bound to happen anyways. It was going to happen in seven or ten years. But I just accelerated the process.
6/03/2013 07:32:00 AM
Great another hopeless idiot teaching PPO's nothing. Wonderful.
"Sounds like in 2 years we're going to have hundreds of young officers that don't know what the fuck they're doing. Great stuff. This department is in deeper shit than I ever imagined it could be.
6/03/2013 06:58:00 AM"
The same could be said of the Command Staff & 98% of those who wear a White shirt. The PPOs just a reflection of management.
I didn't even think about out of grade pay. You can't whine about being short-handed and then not be willing to help these kids out.
6/03/2013 09:30:00 AM
Fuck off union buster. I ain't violating our fucking contract at a loss to myself and a fuckover to every other PO under the contract just to make some kid happy.
This is a fucking job dipshit... nothing less and nothing more. Treat it as such.
Once a PPO is out of their training cycle (3 periods), there is no out of grade pay. The out of grade is during their cycles only (yes, like 3 months is enough training for any of us), after that they're just another officer who is on probation. The order should read working with a PPO in the absence of a training officer during his or her 3-month cycle.
If the story regarding the 006 district copper with the shit bird and PPO is true, I would love to pay him a visit and slap the shit out of him. Total looser.
I wanna know if that story is true cause I got a team of cops the real police that would love to pay the shift bird and the cop shit bird a visit.
This does not bode well for any FTO's asking for a day off. I can see bosses wanting to deny time due because they want an FTO on the street with the PPO.
6/03/2013 10:03:00 AM
Love the FTO in 016 that came in day 1 with a hand full of slips saying he can't hit the medical one more time or he will lose his FTO rank. This is what's teaching recruits?
I hope some of the real police that are left realize this and teach them something once they are off their cycles.
I love showing the new P.P.O.'s how the department really works. I love teaching and showing them how they really don't care about you. In two weeks, I turned new officers into the equivalent of a 22 year bitter veteran. Some of my colleagues congratulated me. One of my recruits said it best "all I plan on doing is answering my calls on the pdt and never getting out of my car unless I have to".
That was bound to happen anyways. It was going to happen in seven or ten years. But I just accelerated the process.
6/03/2013 07:32:00 AM
Great another hopeless idiot teaching PPO's nothing. Wonderful.
6/03/2013 05:35:00 PM
More like an idiot baiting people into commenting.
OT: Can anyone shed light into an incident in 006 dist where a shitbird walks by and bumps into a female ppo. Then tells her "get out of my way bitch!" He then gives a ghetto handshake and engages into a conversation with a much older cooper, all the while looking into her direction and making snide remarks. When the female ppo told the shitbird to leave or her will be arrested, the older copper told her to "shut the fuck you, bitch!"
Good thing for her she stepped up to the plate and defended herself. But, this shithead of a cooper to embarrass another copper like that and act like a typical shitbird while in uniform is unexceptible!!!
Incindents like this happen in the 003rd district everyday. You have ignorant ghetto cops who look out for their gang banger cousins instead other police officers. It's just who they are. Thank you Tracy Ladner for hiring these losers.
And the poor PPO suffers. Not right at all. For once, give the company a pass and ride with the kids for zip.
OT: Can anyone shed light into an incident in 006 dist where a shitbird walks by and bumps into a female ppo. Then tells her "get out of my way bitch!" He then gives a ghetto handshake and engages into a conversation with a much older cooper, all the while looking into her direction and making snide remarks. When the female ppo told the shitbird to leave or her will be arrested, the older copper told her to "shut the fuck you, bitch!"
Good thing for her she stepped up to the plate and defended herself. But, this shithead of a cooper to embarrass another copper like that and act like a typical shitbird while in uniform is unexceptible!!!
Incindents like this happen in the 003rd district everyday. You have ignorant ghetto cops who look out for their gang banger cousins instead other police officers. It's just who they are. Thank you Tracy Ladner for hiring these losers.
Like Medzianowski? Finnegan? THOSE ghetto cops?
I belive this to be absolute nonsense. I see two PPO's riding with a fto, which is a officer safety issue. I also wonder if some of these ppo's that are being shifted to foot patrol are suppose to do if they are confronted in greshem with some real shit, with no experience, i don't know if they could handle. This is a huge lawsuit waiting to happen.
stopped in 006 the other night and listened to a new FTO berate a PPO to no end regarding how to write a case report. I hope this PPO does not get discouraged with the way he was spoken to and realize that most paper written on this job is BS to appease our POS citizens
Desk officers should put an out of grade slip in
OT: Can anyone shed light into an incident in 006 dist where a shitbird walks by and bumps into a female ppo. Then tells her "get out of my way bitch!" He then gives a ghetto handshake and engages into a conversation with a much older cooper, all the while looking into her direction and making snide remarks. When the female ppo told the shitbird to leave or her will be arrested, the older copper told her to "shut the fuck you, bitch!"
Good thing for her she stepped up to the plate and defended herself. But, this shithead of a cooper to embarrass another copper like that and act like a typical shitbird while in uniform is unexceptible!!!
6/03/2013 09:28:00 AM
Coopers? Why would I care about a bunch of barrel makers?
I love the service of CPD, but the training and the treatment of p.p.o's are a disgrace. I heard fto's are now ridding 4 deep! How are p.p.o's suppose to learn one on one? Then you throw them in the smack middle of the hood and want them to bring in arrests on foot? To all p.p.o's think of a secondary job or business,it doesn't look bright.
Is Finnegan a "barrel maker"?
Most suburban and "downstate" field training programs are state certified, meaning the field training officer have taken, passed a written test, and been certified by the Illinois Standards and Training board.Field Training Officer Program
Naperville, Illinois has such a program, their website shows:
The Field Training and Evaluation Process utilized by the Naperville Police Department is an intense 19 week program where the officer is assigned to the Patrol Division under the direction of a Field Training Officer and a Field Training Sergeant. The process is based on a nationally accepted program which is designed to assist new officers in making the transition from an academy environment to a practical policing application. Field Training Officers have been selected for their professionalism and ability to teach their acquired knowledge. The goal for the Field Training and Evaluation Process is to prepare the officer to perform the duties and responsibilities of a uniformed patrol officer with confidence and ability.
Most suburbs have a sergeant field training program too.
I think Chicago has adopted the current policy to save money on training costs (eliminate out of grade pay and FTO report time compensation). Most FTO's downstate and in suburbs also eliminate officer from the program and are experienced officers (at least five years and often are instructors or teachers at side jobs.
At CPD, my FTO had just gotten off probation himself.
Like Medzianowski? Finnegan? THOSE ghetto cops?
6/04/2013 07:48:00 AM
no, not those guys, the other ones.
For once, give the company a pass and ride with the kids for zip.
6/04/2013 12:41:00 AM
you talkin' ta me?
Chalkie
Great another hopeless idiot teaching PPO's nothing. Wonderful.
6/03/2013 05:35:00 PM
More like an idiot baiting people into commenting.
6/03/2013 10:45:00 PM
here, kitty, kitty, kitty, kitty.
stopped in 006 the other night and listened to a new FTO berate a PPO to no end regarding how to write a case report. I hope this PPO does not get discouraged with the way he was spoken to and realize that most paper written on this job is BS to appease our POS citizens
6/04/2013 11:50:00 AM
You are so right. We wouldn't want a "discouraged" PPO. That would be ghastly!
I hope you stepped right in and wiped his chin and gave him some positive re-enforcement and a hug to get him through his shift. I hope you ran over to the Watch Commander and told him about your horrible experience. God! This world is so hard sometimes. WHY?! WHY?!
Like Medzianowski? Finnegan? THOSE ghetto cops?
Yeah, right! Those guys were constantly degrading other coppers in front of the shitbird! Nice try defending your "play cousin." That defense still doesn't change what happened!! What's next, Jim Crow laws?! That asshole made it harder for other coppers with his actions. Fuck him and fuck you too!!!!
Like Medzianowski? Finnegan? THOSE ghetto cops?
No, more like Pacman (Austin 7), Corey Flag, Ronny Watts, Cynthia White's old tact team (the deuce), etc etc!!!!
Please explain how anyone could put two PPO's in a car to drive around at VRI? Does this violate any GO's?
No I actually told the PPO that basically a case report should not take six hours to write and the FTO was just making sure he was going above and beyond. The last time you wrote a domestic report did you ask the victim if the offender was wearing gloves? What does that matter? Did you include all her past relationships in report or just say "they argued over past relationships"
The FTO that berated the PPO did so because the PPO spells at a sixth grade level, thanks for the help but know the entire situation before you offer advice. And another thing coppers are getting jammed up everyday for being dismissive of "citizens", why not just write a decent report and be done with it, or would that require setting aside your personal feelings about the "citizens"??!?!?
Anonymous said...
Do not put them on the desk. There is no reason the desk officers should hold their hand and not get paid, any more than a street officer should hold their hand and not get paid.
Recruits running 2/3/4 deep with one FTO. Not safe. Hope there is never another Hauser/Kilroy incident.
6/03/2013 10:23:00 AM
Those guys were veterans, no PPO;s with them. They got jumped walking in a garage. Old crappy leather helped the first one lose his gun real fast. It was all over in a few seconds.
Not the only double police murder in my career. Ask Northside about those. He showed up on two doubles. He might have been there first on Hauser/Kilroy, I don't recall.
Please explain how anyone could put two PPO's in a car to drive around at VRI? Does this violate any GO's?
Thought VRI was by seniority?
Please explain how anyone could put two PPO's in a car to drive around at VRI? Does this violate any GO's?
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If the PPOs are in their training cycles, then the veteran officer is entitled to FTO pay.
To 7:32 am you are a idiot I have 20 yrs on and yes we do get fucked alot but we still make a good living and have decent benefits all things considered.All alot of you guys do is bitch about this job if its so bad quit. you obviously do not have any other options. Id like to see you in the private sector not doing nothing cause its not fair you cant get a day off or work the watch you want, or my job interfers with getting my free degree or babysitting my kids. if you want to be a dog thats fine but dont corrupt a p.p.o. let them make their own decisions.
I worked looking for the mutt that murdered our brothers Officers Kilroy and Hauser around 1990/025. The punk jumped them in the mutts grandmothers garage. Two seasoned officers killed. They were both good men and coppers.
Brothers Fahey and and O'Brian- "SOS" murdered by the Wilson brother after the officers were returning from the services of another fallen, P.O. Doyle. Traffice stop turned tragic.
So help and teach the PPO' to be safe. The mutts have no rules and their mind set is worse then the
70' and 80'.
Never forget our fallen brothers and sisters. The above murders of the fallen remain with me as if iy was yesterday.
Like Medzianowski? Finnegan? THOSE ghetto cops?
6/04/2013 07:48:00 AM
No...........like Jones, Flagg and Black of 007 you ignorant fuck.
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