Koschman Case Closed
- Nearly 10 months after former Mayor Richard M. Daley’s nephew Richard J. “R.J.” Vanecko was indicted in the 2004 death of David Koschman, a grand jury investigation into the way police and prosecutors handled the case has ended, and no new indictments will be issued.
The 17-month-investigation led by court-appointed special prosecutor Dan K. Webb didn’t clear police and prosecutors of wrongdoing in their original investigation of Koschman’s death. Instead, Webb said Thursday in announcing the end of the probe that the statute of limitations on bringing criminal charges in that investigation had run out.
“No additional indictments have been sought because the applicable statute of limitations bars any prosecutions under state law for the Chicago Police Department and Cook County state’s attorney’s office actions taken in 2004,” Webb said in a court filing.
Interesting wording there - "...didn’t clear police and prosecutors of wrongdoing in their original investigation of Koschman’s death. Instead, Webb said Thursday in announcing the end of the probe that the statute of limitations on bringing criminal charges in that investigation had run out."
So someone probably did something wrong, but the time-frame for proving it has expired. A lot of sphincters just loosened up across Daley-land.
So someone probably did something wrong, but the time-frame for proving it has expired. A lot of sphincters just loosened up across Daley-land.
Labels: scandals
posted by SCC at 12:02 AM
49 Comments:
I didn't know there was a statute of limitations for murder?
If anyone doesn't think for a minute this was going to end differently I have a bridge to sell them in Louisiana. It's a travisty and another prime example of clout ruling everything.
Someday daley and his ilk will suffer greatly for the things he is responsible for no one does those things and gets away with it.Life has a strange way of evening the score it just happens that way.
Webb's "Investigators" had reached their conclusions then "investigated'. Some good reputations are going to be trashed by "investigators" who acted like they were trying out for an episode of 'Liberals and Order', and didn't get the part.
Dan, You can tell who 'helped' the Daley Crime Family. Just look for sudden promotions or transfers, being supported for a public office run, or being named a Judge. You know, the people you hang out with. Oh, and how is that McHenry County Daley family Judge working out?
No Danny, you won't get to be a Judge. But you may just get your and your 'investigators' keester sued off.
Was there ever a doubt about the outcome anyway?
only in chicago
No Federal investigation?
This is why Bill Daley dropped out of the Governor's race.
Amazingly, there are no Police Board cases related to this coverup either.
Isn't CLOUT grand!
If things were reversed and what happened to Koschman, occurred to Vanecko; Koschman would be doing life in Menard.
If the victims family didn't know how politics really work in this city and state, they do now.
And how many millions watsted to tell us something any 1st yr law student could have told us for free. More political wated money. When are we going to learn. Any cops that don't vote should br horse whipped
What happens when a little drunk messes with a bigger drunk? The victim was the fool.
Unbelievable, but hardly surprising. I hope the family gets theirs at some point.
I thought there wasn't any statue of limitations on official misconduct!
What's the limit for murder?
They can go after coppers who were exonorated years ago, they can go after the politically connected too.
My sphincter just relaxed. I have clout and until now, constipation .
Unfortunately, no surprises here. Just another reason why the mayor's office, as corrupt as it is, should not oversee any police activity.
When the boss-man says look the other way, at the end of the day, he's still the boss.
You mean a Daley relative killed one of the peasants on the street and nothing is going to be done? How strange.
Hundreds of years ago, the lord of the land could kill his serfs and nothing would be done either. Times have not changed at all. We don't live in a republic with a constitution, we live in a banana republic run by a dictator. Because you voted for it.
Typical Daley family skunkness.
So this short little prick and his family continue to literally get away with murder.
What goes around comes around. That big tough guy who knocked out the 5' 5" kid might want to keep his head on a swivel. Maybe karma has a bus coming his way.
One can only dream.
Also SSC did you see the Craglist post from the SA Rob vic post on Crime in Wrigleyville? It's a riot.
How many clout bosses will be at callback?
Its frightening reading some of the comments. People commenting cant even grasp what they're reading. One person asked about a statute of limitations on murder, clearly not understanding the article or the law.
I didn't know there was a statute of limitations for murder?
Only in Murder Capital Chicago, Crook County, IL.
Your Honor, Motion to fix.
Granted.
Next case.
corruption
How come the statute of limitations doesn't apply to Burge? Just axin'.
sad to say but as my father used to say to me when i was young :nothing good happens after midnight, what you have is a case of 2 drunks who got into a fight and 1 lost iam glad the cops n detectives will be all right that is all i care about
signed
a working police officer;
There is no statute of limitations for murder but if you thought one of these pukes would go to jail we can live outside the city and get a thirty % raise and the same medical as rham.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I didn't know there was a statute of limitations for murder?
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who the fuck typed this? you are fucking retarded
the SOL is for the cops if they messed with the case wrongly
wow
Indictment for what? Not charging a one-punch-everybody-drunk case? Word is that all the 'evidence' they had came from a disgruntled former ASA.
I didn't know there was a statute of limitations on official misconduct.
Daley and company got away with MURDER!!!
Just another CFI (Chicago fix was in).
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I didn't know there was a statute of limitations for murder?
9/20/2013 01:15:00 AM
There isn't.
Now, re-read this part SLOWLY.
"Nearly 10 months after former Mayor Richard M. Daley’s nephew Richard J. “R.J.” Vanecko was indicted in the 2004 death of David Koschman, a grand jury investigation into the way police and prosecutors handled the case has ended, and no new indictments will be issued"
Vanecko indicted.
No NEW indictments.
Vanecko's trial is PENDING.
No NEW indictments means no police or ASAs will be charged with misconduct.
The Koschman family will go after the Detectives in civil court.
Retired or not, if you don't think they stand a good chance of being held liable, you're delusional.
D.W. now you can go back to ass grabbing. That was a lot easier to make go away. This took time and a lot of effort.
Anonymous said...
The Koschman family will go after the Detectives in civil court.
Retired or not, if you don't think they stand a good chance of being held liable, you're delusional.
9/20/2013 01:54:00 PM
The statute of limitations for civil redress has also expired. The only thing the family can do at this time is ask for administrative charges on the PO's who were involved.
This might occur to make things look legitimate, but don't expect anyone to actually be held accountable!
There is too much CLOUT involved here!
The funny thing is some of those involved are still as arrogant and boisterous as before. At it's peak they were sullen but no longer!
I feel sorry for that poor Mother who lost her son at the hands of a drunken CLOUT Lord.
Daley' nephew will show he is broke and being ligigated. The copper' that sold the badge belong in jail for that Daley crime family.
The poor kid is dead and his mother lives a terrible life do to the annoited.
O !!! Dan Web made a few million for this ciased investigation ! His firm has to make up the millions defending George Ryan pro bono. Never ends !
God bless he kids family.
I hope that those commenters that wish ill on the Investigating Detectives are all civilians. Any Police Officers that feel that way should be ashamed of themselves. These are guys that would give their lives for you!! Those comments sicken me. Old school retired.
Totally shameful. Hope the victim's family goes all out on this "outfit" (small o).
--No Cop Here
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
The Koschman family will go after the Detectives in civil court.
Retired or not, if you don't think they stand a good chance of being held liable, you're delusional.
9/20/2013 01:54:00 PM
The statute of limitations for civil redress has also expired. The only thing the family can do at this time is ask for administrative charges on the PO's who were involved.
This might occur to make things look legitimate, but don't expect anyone to actually be held accountable!
There is too much CLOUT involved here!
9/20/2013 04:43:00 PM
The trick bag for the detectives who covered up for Vanecko comes during his trial. The detectives will be called to the stand and testify.They better hope they don't get tripped up by the prosecutor's questioning. They aren't off of the hook yet.
This is the exact opposite of what happened to me! The clout pushed and pushed for prosecution which eventually led to me going to prison. It amazes me how easily people are to put blame on someone just for their family ties. I couldn't imagine if the guy I hit ended up dying, or if my last name were related to the Daley family. I can't stand the Daley's and what they turned this city into....but a fight that was probably started by the deceased is still just that a fight that ended badly. It's a tragedy that no one can change. Sending someone to prison without any evidence showing any wrong doing is ridiculous.
Stunning so much 'negative' input from fellow P/O's posted on this incident. As if they want justice for the Koschman family or is it because of hatred for the Daley family?
why did it take 9 years to close a "one punch everybody drunk case"?
I keep hearing: if the tables had been turned and it was Vanecko who was killed Koschman would already be doing life.
I say, if it were somebody other than Vanecko who threw the punch would anyone here give a crap? This type of incident happens more than anyone could believe (especially in the "entertainment" districts) and the typical result is no charges. Why is this case different?
because it took 9 years and a newspaper article to "close" the case.is that how the investigations into all the other fights conclude. if so you got a point.
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