Leroy Martin Passes
- Former Chicago police Supt. LeRoy Martin, who led the department from 1987 until 1992, died Saturday.
Martin, who was 84, was appointed superintendent by the late Mayor Harold Washington and also served under former Mayor Richard M. Daley.
Martin joined the department in 1955 and worked there for 36 years, retiring as superintendent at 63.
A police spokesman confirmed Martin’s death but could not immediately provide other information.
R.I.P.
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posted by SCC at 12:01 AM
124 Comments:
He better be wearing his round crown cap!!!!!
Leroy the hat Martin. He would suspend any officer caught without a hat. No mercy except for the clouted.
Will he STILL be working a government job?
He got paid very well after Retirement!
Perhaps someone else remembers this story.
They made a class of sergeants in 1988.
Leroy said to the graduating class at a ceremony in a church:
"Now I know you all can't wait to go out there and be 'dog-ass sergeants' . . . . "
Anyway.. it was CLASSIC!
RIP Boss..
you better wear your hat when you're meeting the BIG guy up there.
Remember. When you go into the lieutenants' "oral interview" and regardless of the question, be sure to say the secret passwords I came up with for our people: "NOTIFY THE WATCH COMMANDER".
We just want our favorite people promoted. Fuck most of the sergeants. We'll weight the oral as 80% after the fact. Unless you have CLOUT, promotion will be an insurmountable obstacle. Keep it secret and don't let any of the legit, hard-working assholes know it's all rigged.
HEY NORTHSIDE !
When does the "event" take place ?
Those were the days of Police Officers.
R.I.P.
Did he die with his hat on?
Made my day hearing of this fool's passing. Leroy was a piece of SHIT who was dumb as a fuckin rock and a complete hater. RIH-Rot in hell-Leroy. Drunk fuck. How many times did 003 have to pick his drunk ass up at THE LION'S DEN bar on 71st Street and drive his ugly ass home and dump him at his front door? I was one of those coppers who did it at least 5 times. What a mope. Hope the Dept doesn't give this fuck the big furenal. HUH. Yes I say furenal with a big bruick Leroy would drive. Believe me he was a FOOL and a HATER!
His name was always Leroy until Harold made him the head fool in charge then he changed it to LeRoy to make him seem more edumacated. Was he French? No. Just DUMB.
Hey SCC. You weren't around when this fool was but I am sure many many retired coppers are celebrating your post. That asshole made Curtin look like a cool breeze on a hot summer day.
RIP? Fuck him.
He should have been indicted for what happened in 015.
If you go to the wake, make sure you got your Crown of Authority on. Ole Leroy is liable to jump out of the casket & try to give you a day. RIP Wagonman.
In honor of this man...SPARS for everyone!
Remember when he was commander of Narcotics on the 9th floor and he was wearing his pajamas with his police cap chasing a drunken sergeant out of mister pat's down state street during wee hours of morning yelling 'i order you to stop'? Classic good times.
RIP? Scumbag thief and westside bagman... I say rest in hell. Only reason he never went to jail was protection from narc dealers and westside politicos.
Leroy was a total dumb fool who hated the white police. Good riddance hater.
Leroy was a corrupt ignant fool.
I hope they bury him close to Curtin. I can piss on both graves with one stop.
Leroy was a total fuckin asshole. Fuck him.
West side bagman. Harold made him Super all the way from an obscure Deputy Chief's position thanks to a powerful west side push via Nancy Jefferson. Received a Masters Degree, all of the work being done for him by Harley Shinker (remember him?). HS was a Sgt at the time, but was richly rewarded. For the Lts exam, oral boards were conducted by boards of exempt personnel. They were all told that only candidates using the secret phrase (which was not part of the correct answer) "notify the watch commander" should get full points. Then, they decided to count the oral boards for 80% of the grade. Hence, exam scam. The most corrupt exam in the city's history (and we know that's saying something). Harley and all the clouted made Lt. Leroy should have been in jail, but instead was the Supt. Only in Chicago.
Leroy has inspectors standing outside 1121 S State writing up coppers who tried to walk in without a hat. He was fucking nuts about that hat. They lost that battle here. I gotta admit, the police look like police in NY, they still wear their hats there. When I look at pictures of CPD from the 60's, 70's and inso the 80's they looked better than now, they mostly all have their hat on.
Anonymous said...
He should have been indicted for what happened in 015.
9/01/2013 01:01:00 AM
You must mean the Rick Miller thing. Sanford Neal didn't get indicted, miracle of miracles. And Rick Miller kept his mouth shut through it all.
Anonymous Looking For J.N. said...
HEY NORTHSIDE !
When does the "event" take place ?
9/01/2013 12:23:00 AM
As the husband of a former Mayor once said, "The trouble with people is they think it is all legit."
"they were throwing fetuses at us. Human fetuses"
Remember the Leroy limos. The sgts drove unmarked cars with light bars on the roofs for about a year around 1989.
Dog-Ass Sgt. Yep, that was Leroy when he was a Sgt. in Area 4Youth. He'd sleep all through his shift. A Sgt. from 011 would go up stairs to the Youth Office, knock on the door and wake him. He could then go home or where ever. Maybe to his brother's joint in 015...Boss Martin's..loaded with dope dealers and pimps. Retired 011 Ranger.
Was he on the payroll at the Morgue all the way to the end?
I won't be able to attend services. I'm already scheduled to floss my teeth and sort laundry.
However, sometime this autumn, I'll stop by Oak Woods Cemetery to "pay my respects to the Father of EXAMSCAM".
Perhaps someone else remembers this story.
They made a class of sergeants in 1988.
Leroy said to the graduating class at a ceremony in a church:
"Now I know you all can't wait to go out there and be 'dog-ass sergeants' . . . . "
Anyway.. it was CLASSIC!
RIP Boss..
you better wear your hat when you're meeting the BIG guy up there.
9/01/2013 12:22:00 AM
I was there and never heard him say it. I doubt you were there. I know the name of the church. Do you?
Death,
The great equalizer, not only for the clouted morons, but also for the ones whom nobody sent.
He deserved to feel the cold stainless steel tray in the M.E. office he totally screwed up in his "retirement" perk.
Leroy who ?
Le Roy, which means The Asshole in English, really fucked over a good guy, a hero and a great boss, Deputy Chief Richard Dwyer, back about 23 years ago.
For that rotten move alone, fuck "The Asshole" Le Roy.
A treacherous and corrupt political hack as dumb as a sack of hammers. Murphy's Law says he should have stayed a CTA bus driver.
And the funeral director replied...
"Not since Flukey Stokes, did I ever bury someone with his hat on!"
You're Welcome.
According to the then Glock rep for law enforcement bulk purchases, Martin refused to authorize Glock for the CPD unle$$ he got hi$ end.
Glock gave him a free pistol which he accidentally discharged in his office.
Made my day hearing of this fool's passing. Leroy was a piece of SHIT who was dumb as a fuckin rock and a complete hater. RIH-Rot in hell-Leroy. Drunk fuck. How many times did 003 have to pick his drunk ass up at THE LION'S DEN bar on 71st Street and drive his ugly ass home and dump him at his front door? I was one of those coppers who did it at least 5 times. What a mope. Hope the Dept doesn't give this fuck the big funeral. HUH. Yes I say funeral with a big buick Leroy would drive. Believe me he was a FOOL and a HATER!
So tell me this. What the f-ck is the difference from what we got now? RIP Boss
MEH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Glad he's gone... at least he's not draining the pension fund like the rest of the gold stars still do.
Daddy?
What a bum!
He worked in youth downtown for some time they had to kick his feet off the desk and wake him up to respond to a call.
Wow now they should make his female look alike from 15 Sup! De Rev's would love That! Can we all sing Kumbaya.
leroy was a racist and a hater but also dumber than a box of rocks also rumor has it leroy father was a dope dealer and pimp a class act
Does that mean his family member in 19 now has to have a legit spot and actually answer up to the radio?
Leroy was one of the most corrupt superintendents in the history of the department. He owned the Lion's Den. Old timers will tell story after story about him when he was the Area 4 Deputy chief, when he took his driver ( girlfriend) to gambling dens run by off duty coppers etc etc etc. And, he hated female officers even having off duty police women wear red dresses and serve the exempts drinks and dinner at parties in the Conrad Hilton.
Anonymous said...
He should have been indicted for what happened in 015.
9/01/2013 01:01:00 AM
Him and a few other black exempts were given a federal pass. Yes, you are correct.
im a retired cpd officer, 30 yrs on the west side and I knew Leroy martin, I didn't care much for him either.. SCC, please remember that he was still a copper, he wasn't perfect, but lets keep these negative comments on the sidelines, to be told in the bars over a beer, this man has a family just like we do, lets not be part of making their loss even worse if they read some of these negative comments...
RIP??? This asswipe was running interference for a dope operation on the west side a couple decades back.During the 90's he routinely and automatically bumped up suspensions for WHITE PO's a ton of 30 days and 30 pendings from what were originally 3-5 day suspensions.As someone noted already he was a frequent visitor to The Lions Den in 003 where he would get shitty drunk and drive home.If he saw an officer without his hat on the drunk driving Superintendent would have him written up.I'm not even going to go into his stories from the old Marquette 010 days.....
You say RIP,I say may God Damn his shit filled soul to Hell.....
Well, he taking his final nap now, and not on company time.
I wonder how many of the clout babies at the MEs office are now worrying about their part time jobs ( at full timepay )
i am white cop from the nw side i will not be attending that dog ass racist funeral any white or hispanic cop that does better have their brain examined my favorite time when i was at hq and saw leroy in his green suit i thought he was pimp going bond court to bond out one of his hoes
laroy i hope you burn in hell you racist hater asd they say stupid is stupid does
leroy father was a west side dope dealer n pimp nothing but class
well you dog i hopr they hsve booze n hoes in hell
hey laroy i plan to springle something over your grave and it wont be holy water burn in hell you ignorant racist
as a white police officer i worked with a lot great white and hispanic bosses but leroy i hated you , racist i hope you burn in hell,
Anonymous said...
Leroy was a total dumb fool who hated the white police. Good riddance hater.
9/01/2013 02:57:00 AM
I know bosses that hate black police. Are we even now?
LeRoy Martin; former Supt. of the CPD. Former Director of Cook County Hospital Security. Past Director Of CHA Security. Former Director of Security at the Ogilvie Transportation Center. Former a director of Security at the State of Illinois Building. LeRoy Martin did not believe in Retirement.
People forget about LeRoy's sponsorship of John Burge. LeRoy the C.O. Of Area Two brought in John Burge (12th Dist. Tactical Lieutenant) to be his Violent Crimes Commander. As Supt. he transferred Burge to Area Three.
At the 90-1 graduation ceremony, LeRoy said. "People who live on Lake Shore Drive don't need the police, because they have insurance. People who live on the West side need the police." He was such an ignorant fuck, it's sad, not funny. I should have walked out of that graduation and picked up as many suburban police applications as I could get my hands on. But, I didn't. I now wish I had more than ever.
LeRoy Martin: The Father of EXAMSCAM.
852 sergeants aspiring to be promoted to lieutenant participated in the entire three-part EXAMSCAM "process".
Part I: 63 multiple choice questions (pass/fail) with 44 correct needed to pass. 852 passed. Individual score NOT weighted in composite score.
PART II: Eight written essay questions--the identical questions that were to be used in the later "oral interview".
PART III: "Oral Interview" aka "amnesia test". Same eight questions as Part II before a pair of exempt "raters".
It was only after the list was posted that the City announced that the "oral interview" would be weighted at 80 percent(*), Part II being weighted at only 20 percent. Pursuant to discovery in later litigation, it was PROVEN that half of the 8 "oral board" answers were previously rigged by the exempt "raters". Indeed, it was then Area 4 Dep. Chief Martin's idea that 2 of the 4 trick questions required that favored candidates merely add the superfluous "notify the watch commander" as passwords for perfect scoring. Only 10% of the "orals" were taped. In some instances, several "successful" candidates replied with this shibboleth to all 8 questions.
The overwhelming majority of all candidates scored correctly on Questions 1, 3, 4 and 8. However, compare the following breakdown on trick answer items 2, 5, 6 and 7, two of which were included by Martin himself. Below you'll see the percentages "correct" by those who were promoted versus those who were ignominiously "flunked", myself included, many having perfect or near-perfect scores in the first two (legit) components. Conversely, many of the "successful" candidates without regard to race did miserably on the first two legit parts of this "process".
PERCENT "CORRECT" TRICK ANSWERS PROMOTED: 89.6%
PERCENT "CORRECT" TRICK ANSWERS "FLUNKED": 7.1%
Calculations by psychometricians revealed that there was less than one chance in 13.8 TRILLION (13,800,000,000,000) that the "process" was NOT RIGGED. Unless you were among the tipped-off CLOUTED favorites, you would have a better chance at winning the Lotto jackpot twice.
More than a score of unnamed promoted lieutenants confidentially admitted to me that the "oral" was rigged. Based on the first 2 components, almost all of those that 'fessed up would have been promoted legitimately without EXAMSCAM cheating.
(*) = The City claimed that the 80% weight was necessary to maintain racial diversity. The proven fact is that whites, blacks, Hispanics, Asians, males and females were well represented for promotion using the legit first two parts. The City merely used this claim as a pretext for rigging EXAMSCAM. Black Sgt. William Gates had perfect scores in Parts I and II. He was "flunked". [The Gates Paradox"]
I proudly report that over 93% of the victimized sergeants kicked in at least $100 to take the City to court.
BTW, since the City got caught with the "smoking gun" of EXAMSCAM, they now use in-your-face "merit" promotions to accomplish the same objective. As you can well surmise, both Richard M. Daley and his local mainstream media refused to expose the above despite the fact that the physical evidence and full documentation exists to this day.
LeRoy Martin?
My sainted Irish mother once told me that if you have nothing nice to say about a person, bite your tongue. Ouch!
Who do think is dumber LeRoy or Wysinger?
just like the jim croce song, ; bad bad Leroy martin baddest boss in town dumber than ton of rocks a racist and hater all around;,
this white police officer will not be attending that fools wake and I hope no white or Hispanic officer does either Leroy thank the dear lord you were stupid.
Anonymous said...
He should have been indicted for what happened in 015.
9/01/2013 01:01:00 AM
That is what Rick said!!
Sandford Neal and Rick
Perfect example of whats wrong with this department! He was a piece of shi*. Dumped Wodniki for telling everyone the truth about him....product of affirmative action and clout.
Don't use boss and this man's name in the same sentence.
Leroy had balls!
I remember when he was the Deputy Chief of Area 4 he turned Sly King and a group of PO's including Dave Snethen lose on the smash & grab goofs. They shot a half a dozen and the crimes slowed down quickly.
Being Superintendent is not easy but I enjoyed working for him.
One of Leroy's first acts Superintendent was to visit The United States Attorney's Office and ask them to not indict a dozen wagon men for taking gratuities from funeral homes. He told the US Attorney that it should be handled internally by the CPD as it was a historical problem.
The US Attorney finally agreed and a large group of officers owed their careers to his having balls.
Unlike Weis who did the opposite with Cozzi.
After reviewing some of the comments posted about Superintendent Martin I must correct several falsehoods.
The 15th District was in Area 5 not Area 4 and Martin had nothing to do with Sanford Neal or Rick Miller.
Jon Burge worked as a lieutenant in 012 for George Ruckrich. Ruckrich arranged his transfer to Area 2 Violent Crimes through Superintendent Richard Breczak and he initially worked under Commander Milton Deas. He was promoted to the rank of Commander by Superintendent Fred Rice.
His finest moment as Superintendent was when he dumped the "WAZ" as a Deputy Superintendent after listening to the concerns of Maurer, Townsend and others.
I normally dont speak ill of the dead, or at least until the maggots get to them, but Le'Roy is an exception.
He's a classic example of how low life scumbags not only survive in this fucked up Dept. but actually thrive. I'll never forget his speed at my graduation. Many have kids and little nephews, nieces there, all wearing our 8 pointed Hats fantasizing about the day they get to wear the uniform and be the law.
And here struts Le'Roy, like Samson in his lincoln Park cage. "Oh you mutha-fucka's go on and kick ass on all those mutha-fuckas out there". "You my mutha-fucka's and you go fuck up those gang banging mutha-fuckas".
Were all looking at each other thinking, "what the fuck did we get ourselves into"? The kids are asking, "Daddy/Mommie" "whats a mutha-fucka"?
Meanwhile Le'Roy covered for his torture squads and his clout bunch while stepping on us for the least infraction. What a "mutha-fucka".
So tonight if its on the news and you and the kids are sitting at the TV tell little Bobby and little Angelica, "see here children, now thats a Mutha-Fucka".
Leroy was great at calling in good White Coppers to do the dirty work when there was a serious City-Wide problem, then selling them down the tubes at promotion time. , for Affirmative-Action Goof-Ball Dog-Asses.
Anonymous said...
Perfect example of whats wrong with this department! He was a piece of shi*. Dumped Wodniki for telling everyone the truth about him....product of affirmative action and clout.
9/01/2013 04:20:00 PM
Why is he considered a product of affirmative action,but Weis and G Mac aren't? Oh!! They're white and earned everything they've received.
After reviewing the comments I do believe there is a bunch of ignorant people posting on this blog.
1. Martin got his degrees in the 70's and Schinker did not become a police officer until long after Martin graduated and they did not meet until Harley was a sergeant in 012 in 1985.
2. Jon Burge was never the tactical lieutenant in 012 but he was part of Ruckrich's crew. Ruckrich prevailed on Breazak to send him to Area 2 VC. The Commander of Area 2 was Milton Deas and Fred Rice later promoted Burge to the rank of Commander.
3. 015 was in Area 5 when Rick Miller was running wild and the Commander was Sanford Neal. Martin had nothing to do with ARea 5 as the DC was Richard Rochford.
4. Promotional exams are prepared and handled by the Department of Personnel and the outside consulting firms that the City hires not CPD. CPD's involvement is overseen by the Department of Personnel and a member of the Department of Personnel sat on every interview panel.
5. Wodnicki was dumped after Maurer, Townsend and others complained about his management style. In reality he should of been indicted for his sucker-punching the detective in Simpson's years before, which led to the detective going on disability.
6. Sky King and Snethen and the rest of that mission team would confirm that Martin backed then to the hilt when they took on the assholes who were doing smash & grabs on the west side.
Isn't his son also a Cook County Circuit Court Judge?
Well say what you will about Leroy Martin; but I worked in the 10th District when he was the A/4 Deputy Chief, and he did take care of the working Police. As the Superintendent of Police, he stood up for this then young "white" Police Officer against the Chicago Tribune when it was not the popular thing to do. I for one will never forget what he did for me. May you Rest In Peace.
Leroy ran for Sheriff, and he had one of the biggest jag offs that the CCSPD ever produced on his campaign team. The incomparable Jerry Casserly.
Jerry spent most of his time sleeping xxxx I mean patrolling New Trier Twsp. Then he latched on to sticks.
Jerry came up as Elrod's driver, and fucked over sticks by passing info on to O'Grady about Elrod's campaign. For this, Jerry earned Sergeant.
Casserly then made Lieutenant on the last hour prior to Mike Sheahan getting sworn in. Sheahan could have (rightfully and correctly) reversed the promotion but he didn't. Sheahan would live to regret this.
Casserly was one of Martin's campaign managers. I met Martin and he seemed to be a nice enough guy, but when I got wind that Jerry was pimping for him, my decision was made to support Sheahan lock, stock and barrel!
Based on what I knew and what I am reading here, I never regretted this.
Martin vis-a-vis Weis
When Weis became Superintendent he saw the tape with the Cozzi encounter and he took it to the FBI and the US Attorney and requested that Cozzi be indicted and he was and did years in a Federal penitentiary and still cannot find gainful employment.
When Martin became Superintendent he learned that the FBI had conducted an investigation into wagon men taking money from funeral homes that they delivered dead bodies too. Martin went and met with the US Attorney and stated that this was a historical problem at CPD and he requested that he be allowed to handle the problem internally instead of indicting these officers with felonies. After several meetings the US Attorney agreed and Martin suspended the officers instead of having them convicted, sent to jail and losing their jobs.
As far as I am concerned Martin did the right thing and Weis did not!
Anonymous 015 said...
Who do think is dumber LeRoy or Wysinger?
9/01/2013 02:59:00 PM
This is one of the hardest questions I've ever heard. Al has to have a college edimincation. I thinks LeRoy had a GED. But it is still a toss up. I need a drink!
as a former 025 gallows author would say ' oh well another one bites the dust'
Anonymous said...
According to the then Glock rep for law enforcement bulk purchases, Martin refused to authorize Glock for the CPD unle$$ he got hi$ end.
Glock gave him a free pistol which he accidentally discharged in his office.
9/01/2013 08:30:00 AM
There was a deputy who I believe was a former alderman, Jewish guy, who was also a lawyer with a going personal injury practice.
He had a suit going for a copper who blew his finger off trying to put his Glock away in it's case while loaded. Glock's then came in a case with a plastic part inside that went through the trigger guard. You had to unload the pistol to prevent an accidental discharge when putting the weapon away.
At the factory the plastic Glock boxes were stacked on carts with metal rods and the Glock boxes fit over these metal rods. Leave a round in the chamber when you put it away and the chance was high that you would cause the trigger to cycle and set a round off.
So this deputy was close to the top of the CPD hierarchy and the Glock never made it to the approved list until years later, under Jody I believe, because of that lawsuit.
anyway the family can give me the green suit he used to wear. leroy as much as i hated you you still were good for a few laughs
True LeRoy Martin stories
Hard working PO approached him in a community meeting about getting a merit bump to detective.Martin tells him to give him a resume. PO does and Martin
rolls it up and stuffs it in a visor. PO sees him driving the same car two or three Weeks later with the resume still jammed in the visor
Two POs stop and cite his mouthy daughter. One officer gets launched to 002 the other dumped to 008. Both officers were in 004 at the time.
Martin and his entourage of exempt assholes including Charles Ford were touring the districts and addressing the troops. PO asks Martin was his nickname Skillet. PO gets psyched stripped and stuck in 003 until he retired.
Two tact guys from 003 stops a guy leaving the Leos den . Guy calls Martin and they are back on the watch before they hit checkoff.
Im gonna posts these stories on an online obit for Martin so everyone knows him for what he was. A ghetto ignorant bagman and political hack.
Anonymous said...
People forget about LeRoy's sponsorship of John Burge. LeRoy the C.O. Of Area Two brought in John Burge (12th Dist. Tactical Lieutenant) to be his Violent Crimes Commander. As Supt. he transferred Burge to Area Three.
9/01/2013 12:34:00 PM
Not quite correct, Martin became A2 exempt commander later. Burge was already the violent crimes unit lieutenant when Martin was assigned A2.
Let us not forget that LeRoy pulled down the Detective Exam list after the city lost a grievance filed by the FOP when the city decided to change the percentage of 'merit promotions.' A new test given, almost one million dollars spent and no one promoted to detective for four years. Wasn't that the type of institutional racism that Federal Judge Prentiss Marshall believed he was putting an end to?
To 9/1 @ 12:27---you forgot that LeRoy was also a Director of Security for the CHA a few years back.
As a white guy I worked for some great Black bosses on this job. Le Roy Martin was not one of them. He was an ignorant hateful SOB.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Leroy was a total dumb fool who hated the white police. Good riddance hater.
9/01/2013 02:57:00 AM
I know bosses that hate black police. Are we even now?
9/01/2013 12:17:00 PM
Not even close.
it was LEO's den not Lion!!! And he hated ANYONE that was smarter than him, had nothing to do with skin color
wysinger and has secured his housing in Atlanta, wishing u a found farewell, NOT!!!!!!!
"I know bosses that hate black police. Are we even now?
9/01/2013 12:17:00 PM
Not even close.
9/01/2013 10:47:00 PM
You don't know your CPD/
Chicago history very well do you?
Everybody had an uphill skate.
Some farther than others...
There was a deputy who I believe was a former alderman, Jewish guy, who was also a lawyer with a going personal injury practice.
9/01/2013 08:11:00 PM
Ivan Rittenberg.
Anonymous said...
im a retired cpd officer, 30 yrs on the west side and I knew Leroy martin, I didn't care much for him either.. SCC, please remember that he was still a copper, he wasn't perfect, but lets keep these negative comments on the sidelines, to be told in the bars over a beer, this man has a family just like we do, lets not be part of making their loss even worse if they read some of these negative comments...
9/01/2013 11:38:00 AM
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Not sure I agree. As Superintendent he affected many lives, not just his employees.
When you show up for the final role call, all your deeds will be reviewed.
What is that saying? Sunshine is the best disinfectant? Maybe it a purgative for the soul too.
NC
I believe Jon Burge's clout originated out of the west side not the south side.
He was close to Walter Murphy, Judge John Hechinger, Judge Wayne Olsen, Jimmy DeLeo, Bill Hanhardt, George Ruckrich and Edward Wodnicki not the south side blacks.
Joe McCarthy and Hanhardt introduced him to Jane Byrne and his career took off.
SCC, it's apparent that Martin left a lot of scarred earth behind when he worked for the CPD. Maybe you should temper some of these comments out of respect for his family.
ole boy leroy loved catching guys reading the newspaper in marked cars--- he would get the beat number, call the watch commander, and the spar would be initiated--- he was an old wagon man himself and it just shows you how guys make rank and they forgot where they came from--- from a hoe chasing wagon man all the way to the top--- only in shittycago....
There was a deputy who I believe was a former alderman, Jewish guy, who was also a lawyer with a going personal injury practice.
9/01/2013 08:11:00 PM
Ivan Rittenberg.
9/02/2013 01:18:00 AM
Wrong, it was Patakin, the actors uncle
I am sure Dr. Horn is happy, she is the doctor who was told by Leroy that if anything happened to an officer in question, he would take her to the parking lot of St. Mary's Hospital and kill her and her unborn child. He was half drunk at the time. Days later, promoted to Superintendent.
Anonymous said...
"I know bosses that hate black police. Are we even now?
9/01/2013 12:17:00 PM
Not even close.
9/01/2013 10:47:00 PM
You don't know your CPD/
Chicago history very well do you?
Everybody had an uphill skate.
Some farther than others...
9/02/2013 12:40:00 AM
My point was that the original poster believes bigotry within CPD started and ended with Leroy Martin.
Class of 88-3, His daughter sure thought she didn't have to do anything until she got out and bumped up and along and this in a clout heavy class, she once said,"My Daddy won't be happy when he hears this." talk about a shitload of yelling after that, but not at her, all around her.
Nothing good to say about LeRoy but I will say that Hillard was much worse and much more of a racist than LeRoy. As far as being respectful of his family and keeping our comments to the gin mills let me remind you that LeRoy and Hillard and all the clouted bosses both present and past have never respected or cared about the damage and harm they do or have done to our families by the unfair and racist treatment they have dealt out of the years. Glad you are gone LeRoy but I'll save my real joy and happiness for the day I can visit Terry Hillard's grave and give him what he so richly deserves.
Leroy was a better Boss than the last 2 outsiders .
Jerry came up as Elrod's driver, and fucked over sticks by passing info on to O'Grady about Elrod's campaign. For this, Jerry earned Sergeant.
I was wrong here. Sticks actually made Jerry a Sergeant on his watch and Jerry stuck it in Elrod's ass in deference to O'Grady. O'Grady made Jerry a Lieutenant on his way out the door. Jerry made himself infamous with his sexual pursuits with a certain prescription drug addicted woman in Northfield and with some welfare bitches in Ford Heights.
I noticed the error when I re-read my post. If I am going to talk shit about someone, I ought to do it right.
Sorry.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Martin vis-a-vis Weis
When Weis became Superintendent he saw the tape with the Cozzi encounter and he took it to the FBI and the US Attorney and requested that Cozzi be indicted and he was and did years in a Federal penitentiary and still cannot find gainful employment.
When Martin became Superintendent he learned that the FBI had conducted an investigation into wagon men taking money from funeral homes that they delivered dead bodies too. Martin went and met with the US Attorney and stated that this was a historical problem at CPD and he requested that he be allowed to handle the problem internally instead of indicting these officers with felonies. After several meetings the US Attorney agreed and Martin suspended the officers instead of having them convicted, sent to jail and losing their jobs.
As far as I am concerned Martin did the right thing and Weis did not!
9/01/2013 07:50:00 PM
Uh, regarding Weis. He pulled that file on Cozzi BEFORE he was the Supe. He had no legal right to it at the time, but still got it somehow. Before he was officially hired, he had the ball rolling on destroying this man's life. It wasn't a case of seeing something after he was hired, then acting on it.
There is the "Peter Principle", your rise to your level of incompetence
All exempts are recommended and or approved by the fifth floor without exception.
So if the department is lead by incompetent leaders then the fault is at the hall.
Data the way it has been and remains to this date
Perhaps someone else remembers this story.
They made a class of sergeants in 1988.
Leroy said to the graduating class at a ceremony in a church:
"Now I know you all can't wait to go out there and be 'dog-ass sergeants' . . . . "
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I was there and never heard him say it.
I doubt you were there.
I know the name of the church.
Do you?
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I can't remember the church.. Maybe it was 1987...
what the hell guy.. I don't even know what year it is now!!
BUT I do remember the dumb stuff that came out of this moron's mouth. My God, how this once great city has been destroyed.
When Martin became Superintendent he learned that the FBI had conducted an investigation into wagon men taking money from funeral homes that they delivered dead bodies too. Martin went and met with the US Attorney and stated that this was a historical problem at CPD and he requested that he be allowed to handle the problem internally instead of indicting these officers with felonies. After several meetings the US Attorney agreed and Martin suspended the officers instead of having them convicted, sent to jail and losing their jobs.
As far as I am concerned Martin did the right thing and Weis did not!
Sir, you are full of shit. There were two wagons guys that I know of personally who ended up making a deal and pleading to misd. tax evasion charges. They were on film taking the money. There were several others who were in the same boat. The reason no felonies were charges is because it was a bullshit case from the get-go. The FBI agent who ran the investigation was demoted, reasons cited were too many hours spent on an investigation that had minimal results. Leroy "racist" Martin had NOTHING to do with this case being minimized. Quit listening to stories from the uninformed.
As a lowly blue shirt in the mid /late 80's,in 004, didn't really have much face time w/the supt., until PO Hartfield(RIP)lit up 79th St.LeRoy was out there with us during the "Hartfield Riots",fedora and all.
That's all I got.
"racist" Martin had NOTHING to do with this case being minimized. Quit listening to stories from the uninformed.
9/02/2013 02:00:00 PM
But, as I recall, the department had a list of names of wagon men who were taking money . The names came from the funeral home owners. The wagon men went across the city at times to dump the body at a selective home.
Le Roy Martin was one of the African American Commanders assigned to the old Area 2 when Burge was allegedly doing his thing.
I can't remember the church.. Maybe it was 1987...
what the hell guy.. I don't even know what year it is now!!
BUT I do remember the dumb stuff that came out of this moron's mouth. My God, how this once great city has been destroyed.
9/02/2013 01:54:00 PM
My Grandpa told me it was on or within a few days of 23 DEC 88, Friday, at the University of
Chicago's Rockefeller Memorial Chapel. He said there are only two survivors; you and him.
Nothing good to say about LeRoy but I will say that Hillard was much worse and much more of a racist than LeRoy. As far as being respectful of his family and keeping our comments to the gin mills let me remind you that LeRoy and Hillard and all the clouted bosses both present and past have never respected or cared about the damage and harm they do or have done to our families by the unfair and racist treatment they have dealt out of the years. Glad you are gone LeRoy but I'll save my real joy and happiness for the day I can visit Terry Hillard's grave and give him what he so richly deserves.
9/02/2013 10:10:00 AM
Totally agree.
Wrong, it was Patakin, the actors uncle
9/02/2013 09:30:00 AM
Are you sure?
Ivan Rittenberg and Howard Patinkin both fit all of your categories, but two.
At one time, Rittenberg was a deputy chief and later he was an alderman.
I never knew Howard Patinkin to be a deputy chief or an alderman.
Anonymous said...
When Martin became Superintendent he learned that the FBI had conducted an investigation into wagon men taking money from funeral homes that they delivered dead bodies too. Martin went and met with the US Attorney and stated that this was a historical problem at CPD and he requested that he be allowed to handle the problem internally instead of indicting these officers with felonies. After several meetings the US Attorney agreed and Martin suspended the officers instead of having them convicted, sent to jail and losing their jobs.
As far as I am concerned Martin did the right thing and Weis did not!
Sir, you are full of shit. There were two wagons guys that I know of personally who ended up making a deal and pleading to misd. tax evasion charges. They were on film taking the money. There were several others who were in the same boat. The reason no felonies were charges is because it was a bullshit case from the get-go. The FBI agent who ran the investigation was demoted, reasons cited were too many hours spent on an investigation that had minimal results. Leroy "racist" Martin had NOTHING to do with this case being minimized. Quit listening to stories from the uninformed.
9/02/2013 02:00:00 PM
It wasn't a BS case from get-go. Families were complaining about loved ones being taken to funeral homes they had no intention of using,and then the funeral home held the deceased until the family paid a "fee." You're uninformed.
Anonymous said...
When Martin became Superintendent he learned that the FBI had conducted an investigation into wagon men taking money from funeral homes that they delivered dead bodies too. Martin went and met with the US Attorney and stated that this was a historical problem at CPD and he requested that he be allowed to handle the problem internally instead of indicting these officers with felonies. After several meetings the US Attorney agreed and Martin suspended the officers instead of having them convicted, sent to jail and losing their jobs.
As far as I am concerned Martin did the right thing and Weis did not!
Sir, you are full of shit. There were two wagons guys that I know of personally who ended up making a deal and pleading to misd. tax evasion charges. They were on film taking the money. There were several others who were in the same boat. The reason no felonies were charges is because it was a bullshit case from the get-go. The FBI agent who ran the investigation was demoted, reasons cited were too many hours spent on an investigation that had minimal results. Leroy "racist" Martin had NOTHING to do with this case being minimized. Quit listening to stories from the uninformed.
9/02/2013 02:00:00 PM
There was a wagon guy from 023 who killed the animal who murdered PO Lee Seward with his own gun. That officer went in the apartment (FBI, pay attention here, this is how it is done) and engaged the murderer in gunfire. Wagon guy carried a .44 magnum and soon enough had the jagoff in his sights and BAM, off he went to the medical examiner.
That is how it is done , go in and take care of business. That wagon guy was talked about as a possible Lambert Tree award recipient etc.
Turns out that wagon guy was on tape while at a certain funeral home accepting a small token of the funeral director's gratitude, indictment did follow. No Lambert Tree, instead, guilty plea to misdemeanor tax evasion.
And how did the FBI get on to this so-called scandal?
The funeral director was getting scrutinized by the IRS and they questioned a line item deduction that said "Chicago Police" He said that was for money paid to CPD for dropping off remains. IRS turns it over to the FBI and that was that.
I don't know what, if anything, Leroy Martin had to do with it. Lot's of wagon guys on the north side sweated it out until indictments came down. As it was, they took a misdemeanor and some suspension time but kept their jobs.
Still, that was excellent old school police work dealing with a cop killer. No hostage situation, no standoff, no negotiation. Just a .44 magnum barking.
God bless you and your family and may you find peace.
Anonymous said...
Wrong, it was Patakin, the actors uncle
9/02/2013 09:30:00 AM
Are you sure?
Ivan Rittenberg and Howard Patinkin both fit all of your categories, but two.
At one time, Rittenberg was a deputy chief and later he was an alderman.
I never knew Howard Patinkin to be a deputy chief or an alderman.
9/02/2013 05:27:00 PM
Ivan Rittenberg took a Leave of Absence as a lieutenant to become the Alderman of the 40th Ward. He came back to the Department for one day during his term to be promoted to Captain. He was beat in his re-election bid by Pat O'Connor. He came back to the police department and wound up being an asst. dept. superintendent (street deputy). He is still a practicing attorney. Howard Patinkin was command of the 20th District and then became Asst. dept. superintendent of the Traffic Division. Patinkin was also a lawyer. I believe it was Rittenberg who did the Glock case.
In 1988 if a PO was charged and convicted of a misdeamanor he had a good chance of staying on the job.
Leroy talked the US Attorney out of filing felony charges against the wagon men and as a result they should all be thankful.
Weis is rightly faulted for his actions relating to Cozzi.
p.s. Cozzi still needs a job.
Issues?
What kind of pompous ass changes his birth name of "Leroy" to "LeRoy"?
Burn in Hell, you corrupt sanctimonious prick.
I will say that Hillard was much worse and much more of a racist than LeRoy.
I SCREAM BULLSHIT!
Hillard fucked over far more black officers than white. FAR more! He went out of his way to fuck over black officers. A fact not lost on black officers. So much so, that both times he left, many a black officer rejoiced. Yep, he was more racist than Martin. But the racism was of the Anti-Black variety. Self-hatred is a sunovabitch.
Bury him with his Hat .. Bastard
The Second Deputy never missed when he aimed his gun.
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