Ervin Pisses on MLK's Dream Again
There are scumbags, then there are scumbags. Aldercreature Jason Ervin is the latter:
- The commander of a West Side police district is leaving to become a police chief in the suburbs — prompting an alderman to demand that Chicago Police Supt. Garry McCarthy fill the position with a black candidate.
At a budget hearing last month, Ald. Jason Ervin (28th) engaged in a heated confrontation with McCarthy over his decision to transfer James O’Grady, who is white, to the predominately black Harrison District.
“We have a lot of people at the table. They felt this was just a slap in the face,” Ervin said Monday, adding that West Side residents are planning a news conference before Wednesday’s City Council meeting to turn up the heat on McCarthy.
Heat? They just had a black commander. And before that, a Polynesian - she was Polynesian, right? She went through her career telling everyone she was Polynesian...."The Lyin' Hawaiian" if we recall.
In any event, this is "a slap in the face" because only black officers, sergeants, lieutenants and commanders can patrol black areas, right? The community is scarred and fractured over a white guy running the joint for two months:
In any event, this is "a slap in the face" because only black officers, sergeants, lieutenants and commanders can patrol black areas, right? The community is scarred and fractured over a white guy running the joint for two months:
- “It was rumored that he was leaving. I don’t think it was necessary to put our community through that kind of strife,” Ervin said of the transition of O’Grady becoming commander in Harrison.
We drove through 011 the other day and you can barely recognize the place. Irish flags flying every where, streets mostly clean and pothole free, brand new construction and high rises all over the place. Someone even said the Italians were moving back into Our Lady of the Angels.
And then we woke up.
This ass is threatening action if they don't get their way:
And then we woke up.
This ass is threatening action if they don't get their way:
- Asked what would happen if the McCarthy replaces O’Grady with another white commander, Ervin, whose father was once commander of the Harrison District, would say only: “Our community will react as needed — as we see fit.”
Speeches? Marches? Riots maybe? We see how well that worked out about 50 years ago. God forbid he demand the most qualified District Commander who might actually drive down the homicide rate, clean up the open air dope spots and make the neighborhood safe so that grandfathers on the way to their overnight UPS jobs aren't gunned down by parolees doing stickups.
Nope, gotta be a black guy for Jason. Doesn't he have another slum building in Maywood to run?
Nope, gotta be a black guy for Jason. Doesn't he have another slum building in Maywood to run?
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149 Comments:
I just love this city
Capt. Tom Lemmer for commander of 011. He will straighten that place out!
17 years here in 011 guess what it won't matter who's running the district it is what it is and won't change so alderman explain that race thing again ..can I get a woo woo Lost in Fillmore
LOL!
Maybe he can take Mary Mitchell as a tenant...
Erin's daddy got three affirmative action promotions.
Inspector was at 26th and Cal today around 1400 hours checking to see if officers were in their assigned courtrooms. Watch out boys and girls!
Jim Crow lives!
Nice going Ald. Jason Ervin.
Just give me the right to move out of the city limits.
"Hey SCC! Thanks for backing me against that numbnuts Ervin,
I love you man!
XOXOXO s
GM
Yeah let's find another commander like old Claudell Ervin. The man who had visions of the apocalypse and had prayer vigils to stop crime. Claudell was a scamer extraordinaire. Just remember, Claudell is collecting 100,000 a year pension, unbelievable.
Ever notice, the persons carry on about authority when someone in their midst is injured but Oh No....they don't rise up when a person of their own hurts someone in their midst. How come?
Fuck Ervin he is nothing but another ignorant boot sucking off the stupid residents sucking off the government
Sounds pretty damned racist to me.
"I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character."
Martin Luther King, Jr.
August 28, 1963
We wants a BLACK commander.
Dat BE RACIST! How come no one is calling dis da way it be?
Now looky here. Wees don't wants no trouble. Just gibs us a black commander and wees will be satisfied.
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GIVE ME A BREAK! MLK said, "Don't judge a man according to his skin color, judge him by the content of his character" I guess we have regressed in Chicago.
Where is the media who should be calling this Alderman on a stupid, ignorant racist comment??
Well????
That's why the Chicago media has NO credibility anymore with MANY people.
I had to catch myself...
I was going to make a comment here about how McPoliticallyCorrect should fight this bullshit...
But then I thought, who cares? Put in a commander who is the acceptable color and just let his precious district continue to swirl around and go down the toilet.
Let the commander who is the acceptable color explain to the district residents why crime conditions will NEVER change because nobody cares enough to do anything about it.
Ya ever notice how nobody from the neighborhoods participate in their anti violence marches until someone in their family gets gunned down... (or until they give out free t-shirts with an anti gun message on it)?
Hey, if an alderman doesn't care about his people enough to demand the VERY BEST police personnel possible, but instead demands only that the commander is black, then why should anyone else care?
Give them what they want. As a matter of fact all the non black coppers in 011 that bust their ass shouldnt do a damn thing from this point on.
Let's give them exactly what they want. Let all the black officers patrol the black districts and Hispanics in hisp districts and whites in whites. That's what he wants right, I'll be fine with that.
Give them what they want...black patrol blacks and white patrol whites. Let's see how they like it then.
I was in 011 and I liked Claudell, though I never really asked for anything except to work midnights with Capt. Dahlberg. He was all about the Revrun's. But, that was ok because he held back the torrent of BS they created on behalf of the residents. Looking back, it was an easier time for policing in Fillmore. His son should just remember what paid for his upbringing and position in life! Have some respect junior...
Claudelle was (and surely still is) a crooked, racist, phony motherfucker. He had absolutely no use for the white officers that worked in 011 while he was "in command" and made no bones about putting his disdain for Whitey on regular display.
No doubt that Jason, the fat, heart-attack-waiting-to-happen apple, didn't fall too far from the tree. He's been at the desk a few times and his arrogance knows no limits; the one time he accompanied the "wife" of an arrestee where he tried putting the arm on the desk people to "release my constituent on an I-Bond". Desk guy was quick to say I-Bonds are at the discretion of the DSS, and that they'd only be accepting cash. When wifey couldn't come up with the full amount, she was pointed in the direction of the ATM in the lobby. When she said she didn't have her ATM card, the racist Aldercreature dug into his own pocket to make up the balance.
The bonding officer was doing a few other things, so the racist Aldercreature was made to wait almost 45 minutes before his "constituent" was brought out of lockup. His exaggerated conversations on his cell phone and with the "wife" were priceless: "...you damn right white folks wouldn't have to wait dis long to get out" and "dey playin' games up in here" were just two that I recall at the moment.
It will be with great joy when I pick up the paper to read that Jason Ervin has become the latest crooked, racist Alderscum to be pinched for corruption. His arrogance (not to mention his ignorance and lack of education) will undoubtedly expedite his demise.
FUCK YOU, JASON ERVIN.
Oh... This isn't Racism! Sir, You are a Piece of Shit! And Not for the Color of Your skin... but because you Hate the color of Mine!
Roflmao!!! Let them have their black commander!. Who cares who the best man for the job is? Give them what they want. After-all they know what is best for their people.
I agree. Districts that have majority black residents should be fully staffed by black officers, sergeants, lieutenants, captains, exempt rank and all other non police personnel. Districts that have majority white residents should be fully staffed by white officers, sergeants, lieutenants, captains, exempt rank and all other non police personnel. The two shall never meet. No problem.
o WELL.
It is time to bring back Dirty Ernie Brown.
GMac, you don't have a single hair on your sack if you cave in to this.
Like father, like son.
Claudelle didn't care for the fairer race when it came to "what's best for my people", either. A racist with a gold star...who woulda thunk it?
Only question is which one of the turds is a bigger asshole. Looks like sonny boy makes up in ignorance for what he lacks in age when compared to his phony ass daddy.
Just a matter of time where stepping on your dick will have real consequences, Jason.
Tick, Tock, fat boy.
I read the Slum-Times article first and my head almost exploded. I *almost* couldn't believe this jackass. It's blatant fucking Racism! Not to mention he's giving a not so veiled threat that RIOTS will ensue if he, oops...'The Community', doesn't get their way and a black Commander isn't appointed. Really, what the hell is going on with these fucks??
Anyway, after I calmed down 'a tad' I posted this on the S-T:
>>> Cuthbert J. Twillie, 6 minutes ago <<<
'If I was Supt McJersey, or as Sneed calls him, 'The Bronx Bulldog', I'd call this black racist's bluff in a nanosecond! (and that's what he is if he thinks only blacks can police blacks). I'd appoint a Commander who was a White Heterosexual Female with 5 kids, an Irish Catholic who goes to Mass every day, and whose been happily married to the same Straight White man since High School!!'
Well, guess everyone will see now how *tough* the 'Bulldog' Supt is. Is it *HIS* Police Dept to run as he thinks what's best for Chicago. Or is the CPD now a sub-department of Social Services, or of the City Council and that has to kowtow to whiny politicians of certain protected class racial caucuses?
Or... the $64 Dollar question; will the 'Rahmfather', the man known to wield a Steak Knife like 'Mack The Knife' call this arrogant pos alder-creature into his 5th floor office and tell him to Shut The F--k Up!...or 'else'?
Lastly, IMHO if GMAC backs down on this, he may as well spend the rest of his time here in Chicago sitting on a fucking barstool 24/7, as he isn't needed for one damn thing.
If McCarthy had any balls he'd promote a Blond Haired,Blue Eyed Swedish Lesbian. Ah Doody Do!
This guy is worse than the shithead gangbangers that live in that shithole!! I demand a white commander on the N/S!!! Try saying that. I fucking hate this city!!!
Then get the Black Commander out of 020, and take Henny-Penny with him. The old "Race Politics" of Chicago live on. One would think that people who claim they have been oppressed for hundreds of years would embrace diversity; apparently that is typical Liberal Bullsh%@! And watch out for those lying Hawaiians, there used to be a sgt. at Mass Transit who used to complain about a Hawaiian who got promoted on a Latino quota, he used to call him:"Charlie Dulai, the fake Jose."
How do people NOT say this is racist? If it was reversed every bullshit reverend and black activist would be all over this. I'd also like to see our union speak up and say the best man or woman should be considered regardless of race. I realize a majority of people know that individuals like ervin are morons and don't really pay attention. But it is frustrating to hear absolute ignorance being spewed by such a fool.
How about sending Jimmy Jones to eleven
Promote capt. bubblehead to the westside. make him a dc cmndr.
I say bring back burger queen from retirement so they can all choke on a burger together.
nothing new here....another piece of shit running shitcago
I agree blacks in black districts, blacks should only use black doctors and black lawyers and be with blacks according to Ervin's theory but I am alright with that, and blacks only live with blacks, shop at black stores stay in black areas the crime would plummet and the city would be a great place to live "just do it"
This is all BS,but let's not play like white alderman or white residents don't "ask" for a white commander. This is Chicago politics at its best.
This guy is the biggest piece of shit. I had the displeasure of meeting him at several beat meetings for 011. He is a loud, rude, racist, ignorant hack. He loves to talk about how much his "people" are suffering on the west side, yet he drives a car that none of us could afford and flashes his gaudy Mr. T jewelry from head to toe at every opportunity. He makes every attempt to belittle police officers and he certainly doesn't want white officers patrolling the west side. He loves to preach at people with incorrect information and blatant lies. I am so tired of it being ok for black aldermen to be flat out, undeniably racist with no consequences.
Anonymous said...
Give them what they want...black patrol blacks and white patrol whites. Let's see how they like it then.
11/19/2013 02:45:00 AM
You would be in a fight every night with white residents. White folks think they shouldn't go to jail. You would beg to go back to the 'hood.
Maybe they should only have whites in the white districts then. Oh wait, that would be racist.
Pick the best candidate.
What a great example for the rest of the community. When I respond to a job should I expect the caller to demand a black officer?
I don't recall the Alderman in Edgewater beefing about getting a black commander in 020.
Will our retro checks arrive before feb 1 , 2014 to pay off Christmas bills ?
Assign an XO with a car to command 11 , this will be a start to end gold braid pension .
It doesn't matter who is in charge I'm still only doing the bare minimum for VRI. I haven't made an arrest in over 7 months and you think that going to change anytime soon? It's great that they had out these humpers and they are returned blank. I make no bones about it, I'm a proud DOG! The 011th district isn't getting an ounce of work from me!
Proud 2nd Watch DOG (bid officer)
I was in 011 and I liked Claudell, though I never really asked for anything except to work midnights with Capt. Dahlberg. He was all about the Revrun's. But, that was ok because he held back the torrent of BS they created on behalf of the residents. Looking back, it was an easier time for policing in Fillmore. His son should just remember what paid for his upbringing and position in life! Have some respect junior...
11/19/2013 03:00:00 AM
Claudell was also an ordained reverend, but he was a hater. It makes me ill that he gets 100K a year in pension. Fuck you Claudell.
I don't want to touch their underwear that's purposely exposed, so peweese let the black supervisors & bosses control their own districts. That way "white people" will wait as long as blacks for I-Bonds and such.
How this isn't blatant hypocritical racism is just a riot. U want it both ways don't U.
If U get caught looking in baseball does the ump bring ya back cuz "U didn't swing at the obvious strike?"
Let them have what they want and some1 like Leo S. will have to go in2 Fillmore & make it better again.
"Blue jean Baby. LA Lady. Seemstress for the Band"
So let get this straight, this clown's daddy was the commander of 011, and the crime was rampant, and he did nothing to fix it.
Now this fool is the alderman and he has done nothing to fix the crime.
Don't you think the people of 011 and the 28th ward deserve better than what this failure of a family can offer or suggest??
Ervin and his dad apparently suck. They cannot police and they cannot help their constituents.
Enough is enough. Kick the bum out!
best man for the job flies out the broken window when the unqualified shakes hands and breaks bread with the aliked minded and unqualified string holder....so I ask, who is the real puppet and puppet master?
It don't mean nothin'. Things in 011 will never change. They already are flooded with district cops, SAT teams from the area, VRI, GEU, narcotics; even a couple SORT cars. Has it changed anything? Nope.
I have an idea! Let Wysinger run the dept for 6 months. In the meantime McStreetLight can personally take over 011 and show all us Chicago cops how it is done.
I don't think that any of the coppers working in 011 give a flying f#$k if the commander is black or white or asian or lgbteeeese--- sitting in the back of the park sipping on a hot coffee and reading the paper has become my regular routine--- if the radio chirps out my number I do my best to give it an appropriate 19p and wait for the next fool to pick up the phone--- we are all members of the greatest show on earth and the color of my commander has nothing to do with how I do my job....
Yes, Jason Ervin sure sounds like a racist. I worked on the south side for a variety of black racist and corrupt commanders . They protected taverns, nightclubs and business of alderman, gang leaders and friends. That said, I can't believe that the superintendent cant find a qualified black to put in charge of 011? I have known many qualified blacks who could not make high rank because they did not have political clout.
Obama and the Housing and Urban Development feel that we need more diversity in each neighborhood. Each neighborhood will be given a score and if it lacks diversity then the federal government can pull funding from the local County.
http://www.thenewamerican.com/usnews/constitution/item/16291-obama-seeks-to-reshape-neighborhoods-with-housing-diversity
He wants an inept commander in 011 of his choice. He fears that a competent commander might actually try to turn the district around. If that happens, he'll be out of a job. His race baiting and hatred would no longer be relevent.
So if a Black Commander is named to 011 the Captains and Lieutenants associations should file suit. The Move will be made in violation of the Shackman Decree and directly a result of Political Pressure and Influence. And Maybe Just Maybe, this Department can start promoting the best and brightest. (LOL)
These comments by Irvin are quit disturbing and absolutly racist yet not surprising. We dont hear Ald. Pat Oconner complaining the he has a Black Commander in 020.
Headline should read: "Chicago Democrat calls for reinstitution of segregation" Let these demonrats own their racist agenda.
Welcome to Chicago Garry! Where the blacks are racist too!
aaah yes...the ugly race card again.
Most don't know that MLK was a Republican. Most blacks were at that time, why? since 1854, the Republicans were the ones fighting to end slavery and provide education, integration and solace to Black Americans, while the democrats were donning their white KKK sheets and begging to be segregated from the evil blacks.
MLK also said "Change does not roll in on the wheels of inevitability, but comes through continuous struggle. And so we must straighten our backs and work for our freedom. A man can't ride you unless your back is bent." and "We must learn to live together as brothers or perish together as fools."
He was not a perfect man, but he knew what time it was and called out his followers that wanted to line their pockets with gold as they sold their fellow Blacks into another form of slavery with the democrats...
http://fightingchicago.blogspot.com/2013/11/i-chose-dream-instead-of-reality.html
I live in 016 and I'm white. Now let's just pretend that they put a black commander in 016 and I protested it because of the color of his skin. I would have Jesse Jackson on my front lawn calling me a racist. How is right that this guy can go out there and make racist remarks and it's ok? This is what's wrong with this country. Too many liberals and their political correctness. We can't tell them that their comments are racist because it would hurt their feelings. Who gives a shit?
I'm not McCarthy's biggest fan but I have to give the guy credit where it's due. He's not afraid to put who he feels is the best man for the job in any spot in the city. He has a white commander in 007. A black guy in 024 before he moved him to 002. I think the commander of 020 is black. (Sorry, I'm a south side copper.) He's even sent north side bosses to the south side and vice versa. Half the guys he's promoted are black. McCarthy may be a drunk and a womanizer but he's not racist.
Let's put this plan into action. Im white and have been dying to get into 019 or 016. Police your own. I'm down with that.
This is exactly why people have such a problem with merit promotions. Because, instead of putting the best person forward they promote strictly on basis of race.
Kind of like the spin regarding religion.
It's freedom OF religion, not freedom FROM religion.
This is the perfect time for McCarthy to do an experiment. He should put a Black cmdr in there and change all the personnel to black. PO's, Sgt's, Lt's also and see how it works out. I mean, this is what the alderman is saying, so let's try it, but full force. Let the blacks police the blacks in 011 like he wants and we'll see how it works out. Could be a new policy… We're due for one.
Aren't the majority of patrolmen in 11 white?
Why aren't the people of color bitching about that?
It'd be interesting if someone could post the demographics of 11 officers.
They demand a black commander, then they should demand black patrolmen. Wonder why they don't do that?
Did anyone catch the crackhead mayor of Toronto calling out Chicago on its politics. Fucking priceless when a city in another nation uses Chicago as a baseline for corruption and stupidity. Hey Ford, Way to throw Toronto's "sister" city under the bus you you fucking moron.
Give 011 to Leo. Have him retire from 007 as Deputy Chief. The rehire him as ADS of 011. That way he can get 2 pensions like the rest of fools in this city/state.
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Let Seiser run it!!!!
Remember that everybody is equal... Unless your white.
Enough of racist like stupid Ervin here is a video of another high school brawl as usual what people are so violent?
http://philadelphia.cbslocal.com/2013/11/18/police-respond-to-report-of-fight-at-overbrook-high-school/
Speak Ervin can't hear you!
04:40am if that was case we would not have a district to work in. blaaaaahaaaaaa
Word in 007 is that EK (AKA Bubbles) is getting 011 - after all he straightened it out with Phil and the boys in the 90's.
His daddy Claudell was and is a rotten m/fer who had no use for Policemen of any stripe or persuasion... Unless they were kissing his ass.
Fuck you Claudell!
We remember your bullshit from that fight at the church on Independence when the dope boy's "family" fought with the Police...
The true blue go-getter, ghetto Po-leese learned a lesson that day seeing those oxygen thieves yukking it up with Claudell.
Jason?
We see that the shit really didn't fall too far from the rotten asshole.
These fools think that having a black commander will give them coverage for the dirty shit they do behind the scenes.
It's ok because the people who live in 011 are overwhelmingly too willfully blind and ignorant to band together and call these fools like Ervin for what they really are.
The legacy of artfully dodged responsibility, perpetual victimhood, demanding that other give a shit about the state of THEIR affairs continues.
The relentlessly disproportionate misallocation of taxpayer treasure and public safety resources in 011 WILL CONTINUE BECAUSE NOBODY IN CHARGE AT 111 N. OR 3510 S. HAS THE BALLS TO SAY NO MORE FOR YOU!
And since these people hate THE Police so damned much, stop the bullshit and pull The Police out of these places and give these people the Cocked-Hat Public Safety & Security Service contractors they fantasize about having.
Cocked-Hat personnel can be chosen from within the community so their whining and crying about "y'all act like y'all don't care/y'all racist/y'all ain't doin' y'all job/we needs a commanduh an' po-leece dat looks like us" will finally stop.
Let THE Police serve the contributors...
Not shading this in black versus white versus everything/everybody else, but what's a curative for stinkin' ghetto thinkin'.
Let those who have the means and the desire to live under the umbrella of laws and civilized, upright society, actively take measures to do so.
Let the willfully ignorant, non-assimilated, lack of impulse control, conflict resolution skills bereft death cultists that make up the core of the Catered To Constituency have no recourse but to lean on each other for support. >Snicker!< While civilized people go about their business safely, lawfully and peacefully.
It will be a wonderful day when the rest of society refuses to shed any tears of compassion for those who perpetually have their hands out while issuing veiled threats of what might happen if they don't get their way...
American society should be very intolerant of this foolishness and those who perpetrate it as a political agenda.
This reverse racism is going on everywhere nowadays. White people are getting tired of it. Perhaps WE should march!!
When are the upright black people going to denounce this son of a dog Ervin?
We hear so much about "the decent people" in these shit hole districts yet they don't say/do shit to support those who Police these shit holes and the death cult savages who make them shit holes...
"You have a bad attitude Officer! You need sensitivity training so you'll learn to care..."
Fuck that... We earned every right to have a bad attitude based on what we SEE from behind the wheel of a raggedy-assed blue & white...
So an elected official just made a threat based entirely on race? Imagine the 41st Ward Alderwoman doing the same...
This should be front page news. At first it makes the cop part of me laugh out loud at the idiocy of his outrage. But look a little deeper and the double standard really eats away at me.
here you commenters go on SCC AGAIN. Allowing alderman and revrends make you think all blacks care about who's commanding or patrolling who or flat out letting them cloud your judgement on what blacks think about all together. Yeah, some blacks would like to see a few more black officers in their neighborhoods because they might feel like that officer can kind of understand/make a connection with them more so than other officers (hey thats the hand thats been dealt, Chicago isnt the most segregated city for nothin'). But all in all blacks want exactly what officers of the CPD want... MORE OFFICERS!
Let me tell you they DO NOT come any more STUPID than Jason. Fat, stupid, uneducated, a HUH? mothafucka who HATES whitey. His daddy was more stupid than this fuck if you can believe dat! Fuck it. Give down low Alderfuck what ole boy b wantin-a blk. commander in the rat's nest. I can suggest some who are just as stupid as this fuck. No wonder they live like they do. The rat is more intelligent than this fuck. One of the community leaders? 011 Dist citizens will live same way all their lives sorry to say with leaders like this asshole and THE REALLY DUMB Emma Mitts. Talkin about stupid.
It will be with great joy when I pick up the paper to read that Jason Ervin has become the latest crooked, racist Alderscum to be pinched for corruption. His arrogance (not to mention his ignorance and lack of education) will undoubtedly expedite his demise.
FUCK YOU, JASON ERVIN.
11/19/2013 03:03:00 AM
No, he actually has a master's degree from a real school...he just carries himself in such a sloppy and unprofessional way you wouldn't guess it. I first learned of him when he was in Maywood still then when I saw him in person at an event in 015 I was trying to figure out why he wearing gym shoes, jeans, and an un tucked button down shirt like a teenager. Jason has a ceiling already because he is trying to move up and make a name for himself too quickly with no respect for the game (however crooked it is). He's already trying to go up the ranks in the machine without putting time in. He'll more than likely be the reason for his own demise.
The entire exempt staff is looking for another job, JERRY. Hope you and buddy TRCCEY can run the whole place, once you chase everyone out of CHICAGO!!
Hey media
Where is the outrage If this was a white alderman making the same comment. The sh@%& would hit the fan
Tired of the double standard
If a white person is appointed as commander of 011, they will really be put in a difficult position.
True dat !!!!
I am embarrassed to be in the FOP. The entire meeting was the personal fight between Shields and Dougherty. Dougherty explained how he was helping the vet get a doctors letter so he could come back full duty. The problem was Bill never addressed the issue over bringing politics into the conversation nor did he deny it. That's a problem. One of his minions went to the mic to actually say the letter was a sham. The problem is many of us know the officer and know the letter is true. Donahue made a motion and Bill was voted back into the field rep position. I don't believe Mike will let him back in. The problem is this feud is going to affect our representation. Every meeting from here on in will degenerate into a verbal altercation that last two hours without US the members getting any resolution to the important issues affecting us.
At election time read the names on the cover of your FOP book and don't vote for any of them. Clean house it cannot get any worse.
This is exactly why people have such a problem with merit promotions. Because, instead of putting the best person forward they promote strictly on basis of race.
11/19/2013 10:10:00 AM
Very small percentage of all merit promotions go to minorities when you look at percentages.
How about Eddie Walsh III be placed at the helm of the SS 011?
Most qualified? Since when is that a prerequisite for promotion to exempt status? Ha! Not in this town!
That said, Ervin's comments are worthless. Those comments aren't made on behalf of anyone except those that want things. People like him and his ilk aren't looking out for their constituents. If they were, things might be a little better by now...maybe.
The truth is that the majority of the people that live in 011 have no clue whether the commander is black, white, brown, yellow, blue or green. No clue! And the reality is they don't need to know and don't really care.
This comes down to people that want things and believe it will be easier to obtain those things if the person sitting in the chair is of the same skin color. The sad thing is Ervin did nothing but make himself stupid by trying to make us believe he speaks and cares for his constituents. The good thing for him is most of them don't know and don't care what he said!
Hey Jason.....you'll get your black commander, and everyone else, the rest of us are leaving, pulling out.....it's all yours buddy, good luck
Anonymous said...
So if a Black Commander is named to 011 the Captains and Lieutenants associations should file suit. The Move will be made in violation of the Shackman Decree and directly a result of Political Pressure and Influence. And Maybe Just Maybe, this Department can start promoting the best and brightest. (LOL)
These comments by Irvin are quit disturbing and absolutly racist yet not surprising. We dont hear Ald. Pat Oconner complaining the he has a Black Commander in 020.
11/19/2013 09:38:00 AM
Shakman Decree?
There is a reason they call Commanders and above "Exempt" Ever heard the term? Exempt that is. You ever wonder Exempt from what? It won't be on any exam.
Been a lifetime since I been back in my old haunt, back recently to make some easy money for the grand kids an had the pleasure of meeting sergeant bad indigo. Who died an made that guy king big dick huh? Felt bad for them Fillmore Rangers. The more things change...
Who would want that job?
close 11 and let commander of 10 handle both districts . officers can report to roll call conducted by a sgt. all arrest go to 10 .
end of story , one less gold braid pension thief .
Heard tact guys in Da Deuce were strong-armed to contribute $10 if they were working and $5 if they weren't working last Friday, to pay for that JOYOUS day in Da Deuce for Captain cc's retirement party. Word is the collectors couldn't raise much money from the watches! Good riddance to bad rubbish!
OT. But check out this unions raise demand.
A long way from Rahm's 5% offer.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2013/11/unreal-public-union-employees-strike-over-14-5-raise/
Claudell is collecting 100,000 a year pension
How about shut up until you know what the fuck you are talking about. Although a lot of money, he is collecting $74,106. That's still along way from 100K. Look it up on the BGA website if you really think you need to verify my info.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
This reverse racism is going on everywhere nowadays. White people are getting tired of it. Perhaps WE should march!!
11/19/2013 11:58:00 AM
how about, instead of marching, white folks just leave....go somewhere else....live somewhere else....
11/19/2013 03:03:00 AM
No, he actually has a master's degree from a real school...11/19/2013 12:46:00 PM
lmfao bwhahahahaha he got his masters in bullshit aka public administration from governors state university? where the f' is that? and since when is it considered a top tier institution? you must have gotten your degree from a "real" school too ;}
Perfect place for Capt. "Mustache"..
Anonymous said...
Word in 007 is that EK (AKA Bubbles) is getting 011 - after all he straightened it out with Phil and the boys in the 90's.
11/19/2013 11:42:00 AM
Good riddance! On the other hand, this d-bag doesn't even deserve to shine my boots!
sounds like the alderman wants someone ''he'' can control.
Anonymous said...
This is the perfect time for McCarthy to do an experiment. He should put a Black cmdr in there and change all the personnel to black. PO's, Sgt's, Lt's also and see how it works out. I mean, this is what the alderman is saying, so let's try it, but full force. Let the blacks police the blacks in 011 like he wants and we'll see how it works out. Could be a new policy… We're due for one.
11/19/2013 10:15:00 AM
Experiment? You'll end up with with another 003 or 005...ten times worse though
Anonymous said...
I have an idea! Let Wysinger run the dept for 6 months. In the meantime McStreetLight can personally take over 011 and show all us Chicago cops how it is done.
11/19/2013 08:58:00 AM
This I would pay huge money to see! The entertainment value alone would be priceless. Wysinger can't tie his shoes without help and McCarthy could not handle 011 by any stretch of the imagination.
I am embarrassed to be in the FOP. The entire meeting was the personal fight between Shields and Dougherty. Dougherty explained how he was helping the vet get a doctors letter so he could come back full duty. The problem was Bill never addressed the issue over bringing politics into the conversation nor did he deny it. That's a problem. One of his minions went to the mic to actually say the letter was a sham. The problem is many of us know the officer and know the letter is true. Donahue made a motion and Bill was voted back into the field rep position. I don't believe Mike will let him back in. The problem is this feud is going to affect our representation. Every meeting from here on in will degenerate into a verbal altercation that last two hours without US the members getting any resolution to the important issues affecting us.
Thanks Dean!!
When are the upright black people going to denounce this son of a dog Ervin?
We hear so much about "the decent people" in these shit hole districts yet they don't say/do shit to support those who Police these shit holes and the death cult savages who make them shit holes...
"You have a bad attitude Officer! You need sensitivity training so you'll learn to care..."
Fuck that... We earned every right to have a bad attitude based on what we SEE from behind the wheel of a raggedy-assed blue & white...
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None of us have spoken up on the sleazy bullshit going on throughout the Department, McJersey, or that guy we call a mayor. How can you pass judgement when we're not even taking action?
Ervin is a racist, bigoted piece of shit that is a prime example of why race relations in this country will never improve because assholes like this dumb fuck are irrelevant unless they play the race card, even when it doesn't exist. Where's all these fucking morons that elect turds like this in their community to call this piece of shit what he is? If someone in Edison Park demanded a white commander in 16 this race hustling turd along with the same fucking morons who elected him would be protesting and whining all over the news. Worry about things that matter in your community like unemployment, teen pregnancy, education, crime, etc. Instead this fuckhead wants to worry about the race of the police commander??? You're a fucking joke!!!
I agree. Districts that have majority black residents should be fully staffed by black officers, sergeants, lieutenants, captains, exempt rank and all other non police personnel. Districts that have majority white residents should be fully staffed by white officers, sergeants, lieutenants, captains, exempt rank and all other non police personnel. The two shall never meet. No problem.
11/19/2013 04:44:00 AM
What about the Districts where there is no clear majority?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Give 011 to Leo. Have him retire from 007 as Deputy Chief. The rehire him as ADS of 011. That way he can get 2 pensions like the rest of fools in this city/state.
11/19/2013 10:30:00 AM
Pointless comment. First, you must be unaware Daley had that law enacted (after he was grandfathered in, of course), so nobody can pull a second City pension.
And, even gung-ho Leo isn't going to stay another 20 years, so it wouldn't be possible anyway.
Jesus - one more idiot Aldercreature says something stupid (which generally happens when they open up their mouths) and so many jump at the bait. Why would anyone give a damn about what Jason Ervin says. Someone like this should be ignored unless you get between him and the dinner table. Fat fuck.
So if a Black Commander is named to 011 the Captains and Lieutenants associations should file suit. The Move will be made in violation of the Shackman Decree and directly a result of Political Pressure and Influence. And Maybe Just Maybe, this Department can start promoting the best and brightest. (LOL)
These comments by Irvin are quit disturbing and absolutly racist yet not surprising. We dont hear Ald. Pat Oconner complaining the he has a Black Commander in 020.
11/19/2013 09:38:00 AM
Shakman Decree?
There is a reason they call Commanders and above "Exempt" Ever heard the term? Exempt that is. You ever wonder Exempt from what? It won't be on any exam.
11/19/2013 04:36:00 PM
I dont think the original poster understands the Shackman Decree. It actually allows or exempts certain individuals to be exempted from the decree. Certain city hall positions can be fired or transferred for political reasons , others can not. Commanders are in the positions that can be moved for any reason.
Guess the poster just doesnt comprehend the decree
Look for him to high on the promotional tests
No, he actually has a master's degree from a real school...he just carries himself in such a sloppy and unprofessional way you wouldn't guess it. I first learned of him when he was in Maywood still then when I saw him in person at an event in 015 I was trying to figure out why he wearing gym shoes, jeans, and an un tucked button down shirt like a teenager. Jason has a ceiling already because he is trying to move up and make a name for himself too quickly with no respect for the game (however crooked it is). He's already trying to go up the ranks in the machine without putting time in. He'll more than likely be the reason for his own demise.
I guess you can call Southern Illinois a real school
I'm not McCarthy's biggest fan but I have to give the guy credit where it's due. He's not afraid to put who he feels is the best man for the job in any spot in the city. He has a white commander in 007. A black guy in 024 before he moved him to 002. I think the commander of 020 is black. (Sorry, I'm a south side copper.) He's even sent north side bosses to the south side and vice versa. Half the guys he's promoted are black. McCarthy may be a drunk and a womanizer but he's not racist.
11/19/2013 10:04:00 AM
Really? Read about his history back in NY. As for the bosses, you think sending bosses to the opposite side of the City is a good strategy? Tell me why. Seems like they wouldn't be as invested, but I guess it is just a job. Why care?
The easiest solution is to get the politicians out of the business of policing! We need to quickly revert to the position of keeping politics and politicians out of the police department. The district commanders should not answer to the alderman or their underlings and flunkies. The superintendent should not consult the alderman or any other politician while making operational decisions, they have no real say so. It's not law, just practiced policy. In some districts the watch commanders are told to contact the alderman about any "big" event, but in other districts watch commanders refuse to call them. They have no say so, no input and are nothing more than citizens when it comes to policing and department decisions. I work in a district where there are two alderman that always call the dss wanting special this and special attention that etc. One alderman called wanting a car and a sergeant sent out to some disturbance someone was calling him about. He kept calling and the WC finally told him he has sent a car and there is nothing illegal going on and told him to stop calling and just go to bed. I heard it myself. We need more of that to get these politicians back in their place and out of our business.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Give them what they want...black patrol blacks and white patrol whites. Let's see how they like it then.
11/19/2013 02:45:00 AM
You would be in a fight every night with white residents. White folks think they shouldn't go to jail. You would beg to go back to the 'hood.
11/19/2013 08:32:00 AM
Or maybe I would miss it so much I'd just move there.
a no speaka spanish mexican said...
best man for the job flies out the broken window when the unqualified shakes hands and breaks bread with the aliked minded and unqualified string holder....so I ask, who is the real puppet and puppet master?
11/19/2013 08:55:00 AM
Please post in Spanish your English sucks.
Off topic Academy is preparing for a Sgts class to start Monday.
I initially read the title of this post as "Elvis pisses..."! Whaa??
Give them Wysinger.
Demote Wysinger and promote a Hispanic to 1st Deputy of this majority non-black city.
Off topic but The Brotherhood for the Fallen is collecting monetary donations to purchase much needed supplies for the victims of this weekends tornadoes. Any help would be greatly appreciated. The Brotherhood is going to purchase the items and deliver them on Friday downstate. If you are willing to donate PLEASE contact a member. Thank you.
The biggest sign of racism. A man should not be judged by the color of his skin but the moral of his character.
Now compare this mentality vs the people in Coal City and Washington. In 6 months their C.O.M.M.U.N.I.T.Y. will be back on its feet and the 011th Dist will still be no different than an ignorant 3rd World civil war.
After my tour today ,I think I'll go home to the burb where I live and watch some TV.
This is exactly why people have such a problem with merit promotions. Because, instead of putting the best person forward they promote strictly on basis of race.
11/19/2013 10:10:00 AM
Very small percentage of all merit promotions go to minorities when you look at percentages.
11/19/2013 03:09:00 PM
Actually the number of minority merit promotions far exceeds their percentage in the police department, or the city population and statistically can not be explained in a way other than quality of the person is less important than the color of their skin. Just what MLK was against
Meanwhile, French tourists STILL will not visit his craphole of a ward.
Perfect place for Capt. "Mustache"..
Would be a better place for Capt. "Radio"
From OEMC
I am French...where would i fit monsiuer ?
Oui oui France hates you Garry!
At the FOP meeting today, Marky Mark made an illegal and non binding motion to restore Billy to his Field Rep job. This is an issue that is decided by the Board of Directors, not the fifty Mt Greenwood hillbilly's that Billy brought to the meeting with him. Billy looked very nice in his brand new uniforms. He can stay in 022 where he belongs. Kevin Graham, AKA The Boystown Hedgehog, showed up with State President Ted Street in tow. Ted was brought to give an aura of legitimacy to Marky Marks crusade to save his friend Billy. All that was missing was Marks good friend and neighbor, Steve Robbins, to make an appearance, and the cast would have been complete. I wonder how Ted Street liked being used as a prop?
I guess Bill Dougherty has had enough after a few days in patrol. Dougherty and Donahue stacked the meeting and Donahue made a motion to put Dougherty back inside the FOP office. It passed. Bill didn't last very long as a blue shirt back to suits and ties. It speaks volumes fellas.
4 days working days in 022 is enough for Bill Dougherty. He's going back to FOP. Good riddance.
In 25 years I have never seen anything like todays union meeting. Every last one of them has to be thrown out, they don't give a rats ass about us. Its all about them.
At election time read the names on the cover of your FOP book and don't vote for any of them. Clean house it cannot get any worse.
11/19/2013 02:53:00 PM
Amen. That FOP meeting was an absolute embarrassment. Shield, Dougherty, and the rest if his team...including Donohue were so busy talking about Poor Bill working the street they failed to even mention the horrible contract proposal we received or to offer support to our brothers and sisters in Washington and Diamond.
I agree. Districts that have majority black residents should be fully staffed by black officers, sergeants, lieutenants, captains, exempt rank and all other non police personnel. Districts that have majority white residents should be fully staffed by white officers, sergeants, lieutenants, captains, exempt rank and all other non police personnel. The two shall never meet. No problem.
11/19/2013 04:44:00 AM
What about the Districts where there is no clear majority?
11/19/2013 05:36:00 PM
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Under those circumstances the department must place a person of mixed race in the role of commander. Don't you know anything newbie?
Imagine the slap in the face I felt back when I was looked over for promotion to sergeant for no other reason than because I am NOT black. True. We had a thing called race-norming and because of that and only because of that I lost out on my promotion.
If it was ranked by test scores I had it but it wasn't. Someone who scored many points beneath me got the promotion instead. I am retired now and lost out on the sergeants pension.
So don't tell me how much of a slap in the face some shithead from the ghetto feels. Fuck him. I could care less.
Give them what they want...black patrol blacks and white patrol whites. Let's see how they like it then.
11/19/2013 02:45:00 AM
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actually that's historically how the CPD was. Blacks were always sent to black areas.
Look it up.
They didn't like that. Or, the white liberal didn't like that. Now they want it back?
Make up your fucking mind.
Off topic Academy is preparing for a Sgts class to start Monday.
11/19/2013 06:19:00 PM
Nope. But if you post that every week, it might be true in say--February?
C'mon guys you know that only black cops can patrol black people and those cops can only be supervised by a black SGT who can only work for a black LT of course who can only work for a black CMDR. What an ass this guy is. Like a black commander is going to save the day because whitey can't do it.
Then why don't they send black cops to the black calls on the street? Oh, wait, because the white cops would have nothing to do then besides sit in the station. Get a clue Ervin and grow the fuck up. Next time you get on a plane are you going to insist that the pilot is black? Get a pair and let CPD run itself. Like a black commander is going to save the black people there.
"Let's put this plan into action. Im white and have been dying to get into 019 or 016. Police your own. I'm down with that."
LOL, I was thinking the same. Start sending black police officers to the all the black calls in the black neighborhoods. Let the white and Hispanic cops respond to their own race and so on. No more racial beefs ever. ZERO. Let each race patrol it's own race of people. No more racial profiling; won't matter. When there is a multiracial call send a black and white officer to the job. Problem solved. Hey even the good old USA has Obama and Biden. Ebony and Ivory living together in perfect harmony. Alderman Ervin sir you are a genius and kudos to you and your office.
I'd love to sit for 8.5 and do nothing.
I remember Lt. Guy DeSalvo from 025. Alderman Suarez would constantly call him demanding this or that. DeSalvo finally learned not to take Suarezs calls. I used to get a kick when I saw him sitting out back smoking a cigarette and the desk officer would tell him Suarez was on the line, He would pause, say ok and then resume smoking. THATS the way a w/c should handle an Alderman!
wy singer could make 11 crime free
he could bring in ry check to pass out radios as xo on 3rd watch
bwahaha jajaja
assign a commander to 11 that has never received a merit promotion
now that would be good for citizens of 11
a qualified police commander
do not consider race in this promotion , just what's best for the citizens of chicago
say what , put a lt in charge of 11 , maybe the guy on days , he's got the guts to call things as he sees them
Very small percentage of all merit promotions go to minorities when you look at percentages.
11/19/2013 03:09:00 PM
And since only Jody published WHO the actual merit names were, where exactly do you get your info?? Just axin.
C'mon guys you know that only black cops can patrol black people and those cops can only be supervised by a black SGT who can only work for a black LT of course who can only work for a black CMDR. What an ass this guy is. Like a black commander is going to save the day because whitey can't do it.
Then why don't they send black cops to the black calls on the street? Oh, wait, because the white cops would have nothing to do then besides sit in the station. Get a clue Ervin and grow the fuck up. Next time you get on a plane are you going to insist that the pilot is black? Get a pair and let CPD run itself. Like a black commander is going to save the black people there.
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Yeah because right off the bat We can't name multiple "white" districts that constantly run out of officers throughout the night.
Anonymous said...
I remember Lt. Guy DeSalvo from 025. Alderman Suarez would constantly call him demanding this or that. DeSalvo finally learned not to take Suarezs calls. I used to get a kick when I saw him sitting out back smoking a cigarette and the desk officer would tell him Suarez was on the line, He would pause, say ok and then resume smoking. THATS the way a w/c should handle an Alderman!
11/20/2013 08:52:00 AM
Funny you should mention that. I sat in Mike McCotter's office for 45 minutes when he was commander of 025. Suarez called 3 times within that 45 minutes on Mike's private line, demanding tickets be written and in one of the 3 calls, a P.O. be removed from a foot post. Mike simply said, "no," "no," and "no" to him, very politely and then said "goodbye Alderman" and hung up. Bosses like McCotter and DeSalvo were old school and knew how to talk to ... or ignore these idiot aldermen.
How about shut up until you know what the fuck you are talking about. Although a lot of money, he is collecting $74,106. That's still along way from 100K. Look it up on the BGA website if you really think you need to verify my info.
11/19/2013 05:19:00 PM
The BGA website numbers are not always correct. Many of the figures posted are really the net after taxes and not the gross amount. I am a perfect example of that.
How about shut up until you know what the fuck you are talking about. Although a lot of money, he is collecting $74,106. That's still along way from 100K. Look it up on the BGA website if you really think you need to verify my info.
11/19/2013 05:19:00 PM
The BGA website numbers are not always correct. Many of the figures posted are really the net after taxes and not the gross amount. I am a perfect example of that.
Both of you are wrong. Has nothing to do with the net after taxes or posting the wrong amount. I can tell you it is that they post your pension at the time you retire and do not include or update and COLA increases. I am positive about that because my pension is listed at what I received when I retired, a while back
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