Meanwhile, Drama Continues
Some people have a hard time letting go:
- The games continue!
At about noon today 911 was called to remove a suspended FOP president from the FOP hall.
Ref. event 1335306013. Criminal Trespass in progress.
Labels: FOP, from the comments
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
186 Comments:
Dan Gorman us already posturing himself to be on another ticket , doesn't want to give his spot up.
All bullshit aside. Mike is having a really hard time and I believe he is in a total state of denial. He feels everyone has not backed him and just left him hanging. I always gave Mike the benefit of doubt but no longer after this shit show will I do that. He really is screwed. I have no idea how he can show his face in his first roll call.
I think he will land well but just know he is attempting to set the city up to mess with him so he can sue or say he is a whistleblower. He has some crazy idea in his head. I would never want to work with him thats for sure. Heard
Today he was mother fucking everyone there At the hall. At least he can work with his brother because no one wants to work with him either.
What was the outcome? A case report? CR#? An arrest? A trip to the nearest mental health facity for an evaluation? Sounds like he's a little cray cray.
We need to move forward as a unit, what Donahue and graham and Dougherty and the rest of the citywide guys did was disgusting.
What if all the current members simply resigned their membership and stopped paying dues? Think they would notice that?
Mike shields is back in 018 on days.
was told that there was supposed to be a special board meeting this Friday. One of the things on that agenda was supposed to be amnesty to allow retirees back in the union.
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Look ya fucking baby, your as retarded as rick king and Bill burns, so I've been retired for the last 15 years have paid every penny to the Fop I owe for my membership and now you want to allow retirees who have been retired and not paid their back dues up to date???
The Board addressed this issue like a year ago pay what you owe and you can come back in, and if not stop stirring shit up and whining.
Why would we vote to allow retirees back in if they haven't paid their back union dues up to date
Supposedly there to pick up personal shit but walked out with only a small box of crap.
This maniac lives for the drama. I feel sorry for the copper that winds up working with this crazy mofo.
His pic on the front page the sun times. He probably thought it was the shit. Hey cpd psych this jag. He's got a gun.
555 W Harrison for your Order of Protection...
I think the action against Shields was permissible. However, I think the mechanism was not correct.
event # comes back to a personal at division/ kedZie
There is something wrong with him - he has been suspended and told not to go to the Lodge. It reminds me of our domestic calls with dude just can't letting it go with baby girl. This is the second time the police were called to the Lodge, the next time someone needs to go to jail. When we are called back to a location repeatedly, someone eventually goes to jail - this needs to happen here.
Which goes to show it's about him and the good of the membership.
Shields talk about the fraud and conspiracy with the department. Well if he goes to any north side district, them there might be some truth to it and he is involved. When MSF and TRU were disbanded, we were sent south, regardless of where you lived. Some officers came from north side districts and the Department or the Union different care. Shields go anywhere else and you are a coward - lead by example.
Since when is an event # ten digits?
Is it simply a coup by the old guard ?
When you see the press conference and Dan Gorman and Jim McCarthy are there calling for Shields resignation, there leaves no doubt about the lack of Shields' abilities or that he needs to be psyched. Dan and Mike were the two closest at FOP - closest allies, and Jin and Mike grew up together. Mike has a serious problem and he needs to get help.
Also ask either of them about Shields second city cop policy and how the same person must continually post in different message to beat a point. Other than his brother, no one not even his closest friends trust him now.
Clowns! Wait, disregard. Calling them clowns is an insult to real clowns.
Me thinks that the City would be well advised to ensure the poor boy has a psychiatric evaluation prior to being unleashed on the fine citizenry of the 18th District. He has obviously gone off the rails.
FOP is starting to look like some wanna be Teamsters...very sad
Danny, Saul and the Goof McCarthy.....you guys are sellouts and you think by turning your backs on Mike you guys are going to be off the hook ??? #1. U guys WILL NOT get re-elected. I can assure u of that.
#2. You showed every member of this department what sellout rats you are. You think anyone is going to want anything to do with u after u would sellout ur friend like that?? No loyalty. But when he brought u on and u were making the BIG bucks Mike was a "great guy" that u would do anything for right???? You guys are scum.
What an idiot Mikey is... If you gotta have your treasured tchochkeys, call up some guys and ask them to box up your shit and UPS it to you...
No need to go looking for more trouble when you're already floating in it...
All of this is not going to end well. Each and every side in this is not going to stop. What we are watching is a form of mutually assured destruction. Before this is all over, every bit of malfeasance , real or perceived will be aired out by all sides. This is being done not for the benefit of the membership, but for the power, the pay and the goodies the executive board receives. Shields, Dougherty, et. al. only care about retaining what they have, they don't care about you.
Since when is an event # ten digits?
Really Einstein?
Since they started.
First two digits are the year (13).
Next three digits are the sequential day of the year (353rd day)
Last five are the event of the day.
What are they teaching you idiots?
hard to believe that these are the people entrusted with millions of dollars in union dues and the negotiation of our contract and protection of our pension benefits--- just like a bunch of old broads fighting over the last loaf of rye bread at the bakery....
I wouldn't remove him. Hand whoever is in charge a set of misdemeanor complaints and if he doesn't sign, walk away.
What 8:14 said! I'm a do nothing and even I know that.... Idiot
If he was there to just clean out his office then they are a bunch of low class POS. But if he was there to try to running the office he should have been asked to leave.
Many of us are pissed at Mike over the letter issue but we are more pissed off at those in the know who let this happen. Even more of us believe that the last three contracts were back room deals.
There are no heros in this Greek tragedy. I do not trust the guys running the hall now to protect my health care anc cola in Springfield. I just want to see if my two dickless dickhead dic friends sell me out to get a small retro check that will not cover one year of my losses if dickhead Donahue fucks up Springfield this session like he did the last year he was down here.
The first thing Dougherty said is that Harold Brown will never get back in FOP. How appropriate the first thing he wants to do is continue to fuck this retiree.
Anonymous said...
What if all the current members simply resigned their membership and stopped paying dues? Think they would notice that?
12/20/2013 12:33:00 AM
Again, I've been saying this for years. STOP paying dues to a fraternity of good old boys who take their families to a posh Wisconsin resort and call it a conference. We paid $1,000 a head. Yet none of the Board members took responsibility in sending the ltter for retro checks. Now we have a golf committee chair speaking for the FOP. WTF is wrong with you people? End the dues and get the teamsters in. Enough getting screwed over, don't ya think?
The Board addressed this issue like a year ago pay what you owe and you can come back in, and if not stop stirring shit up and whining.
12/20/2013 01:01:00 AM
Rich Aguliar thanks for your response,
signed Steve Robbins.
PS the state trustees are now emailing each other. They are pissed that Street did this w/o their advise or consent. This caould all be vacated by Tuesday.
I think that the entire current crew of assholes on the FOP should relinquish their six figure salaries that come from our dues and return it to the membership. They screwed all of us by being incompetent and corrupt. Their political posturing cost all of us.
Remind me why they need to be paid more than the patrolmen that they are in order to represent patrolmen? Let's use that money where it will benefit us more. I think some editorials and advertising to make up for this clown show they've given is a good start.
12/20/2013 08:14:00 AM
Damn. Beat me to it.
I agree.....that a lot of comments are made out of ignorance........but at least do some research before making idiotic remarks! It makes the police look stupid.....if any citizens & news media read this blog! ....On a final note.....MERRY CHRISTMAS
I don't know Dan Gorman but am wondering is he related to the county commissioner, Liz Gorman who is pushing hard for Rauner to be the republican governor candidate? Anyone who thinks electing Rauner is not just what Rahm wants doesn't know a thing about Chicago politics.
All retiree ticket?
All female ticket?
Ticket with Mark Donahue on it?
Ticket with a retired Sgt. on it?
Ticket with all detectives?
Ticket with all 003rd District people?
Ticket with all 018 District people?
All father and son ticket?
Which ticket wins????
More lies by the people left trying to jockey for a spot.
what the citywide team did was disgusting? This moron Shields has cost every cop about $3,000. He also did the exact same thing that happened to him a few weeks earlier by throwing Dougherty out of union essentially because Dougherty said he was running for president. Police need to pay attention to what the hell is going on.
First, why hold a press conference airing our internal issues? Poorly played.
Omertà
Secondly, they should of all had a sit down and if nothing resolved then proceeded behind closed doors and then inform membership only!!!
Third, Facts only count and if you have them use them wisely.
I've been on 20 yrs and don't recall any contract ever NOT going to arbitration. It's a financial win for the city. They don't have to pay interest till the contract is settled. The union has always done very little. Yes, this is Chicago it is the, " Chicago Way " to have a self interest first and foremost.
Enough shields is gone let's move forward contract, pension back pay!
Shields talk about the fraud and conspiracy with the department. Well if he goes to any north side district, them there might be some truth to it and he is involved. When MSF and TRU were disbanded, we were sent south, regardless of where you lived. Some officers came from north side districts and the Department or the Union different care. Shields go anywhere else and you are a coward - lead by example.
Hey kid, MSF and TRU never did shit but yell on the radio and take two hour lunches. You need to get some time on the job and bid out like everyone else. For the record ten years is not time on the job Officer.
To the comment at 08:14, not trying to be a smart ass , but no , did not learn in it in the academy (no joke) !
Anonymous said...
Since when is an event # ten digits?
12/20/2013 05:26:00 AM
Holy F*CK!!! Are you the police? 10 digits since the start of these stupid things!! Now give me an event number for this!!
Just another gel head gone bad....these young guys are more involved in fantasy football then their current or futures benefits. Poor Mikey, I'll bet you forgot all about that comment you made at the retirement seminar ........ You remember don't you.......you know the one you made after no one had any questions for you and you said that sending the contract letter late in no way would stop our retro pay because you had it under control........ and then you made those comments from the podium calling out specific officers in front of a packed room about reading about your inappropriate comment in the inappropriate place it in the blog.....Where here is your reminder ....
KARMA,......,.............this is not an attack just a reminder.
Dyla Hata
Just another gel head gone bad....these young guys are more involved in fantasy football then their current or futures benefits. Poor Mikey, I'll bet you forgot all about that comment you made at the retirement seminar ........ You remember don't you.......you know the one you made after no one had any questions for you and you said that sending the contract letter late in no way would stop our retro pay because you had it under control........ and then you made those comments from the podium calling out specific officers in front of a packed room about reading about your inappropriate comment in the inappropriate place it in the blog.....Where here is your reminder ....
KARMA,......,.............this is not an attack just a reminder.
Dyla Hata
Is he 99 in 018? Will he run for the watch rep position? Will he return to the drama? Will he transfer to 3 to get street credit? Will he go to church on Sunday? Stay tuned.
America
I don't know Shields but this thing about people calling him crazy is ridiculous especially if the allegations he is making could be true. These are the same tactics used by politicians, Hollywood, entertainment industry and media when someone is speaking out about the truth and not playing the go along to get along games. Just call them crazy and everyone will just dismiss anything they say.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Shields talk about the fraud and conspiracy with the department. Well if he goes to any north side district, them there might be some truth to it and he is involved. When MSF and TRU were disbanded, we were sent south, regardless of where you lived. Some officers came from north side districts and the Department or the Union different care. Shields go anywhere else and you are a coward - lead by example.
12/20/2013 05:17:00 AM
You've been posting this bullshit in a few threads now, and we're a little tired of hearing it.
See, here's the problem: YOU DIDNT LISTEN!
We, the older coppers, TOLD YOU. Yep, the coppers from SOS. We warned you... You watched us get dumped all over the City, and you didn't learn from that. Remember when you were told "You're giving up your contractual rights!".... And you still didn't listen. You know better. Hell, you know more than the rest of us. Now you now that gas is $3.50+ a gallon, and the 1 1/2 hr drive on a good day really gets long when it starts to snow.
Well... You get what you deserve. Enjoy the idiots along 119th Street.
814 am took the words out of my mouth. To ppo who asked original question, if you ever make a gang or narcotics loitering arrest, the ten digit event of prior dispersal is required.
So I am wondering about something. Let's (for a moment) give Mike the benefit of the doubt. Let's say he has some smoking gun that will prove the corruption that he alleges. Said smoking gun would have been revealed to the IG in Mike's letter. So why aren't the accused suspended from their positions as well? I would hope that there would be some sort of procedure in place when such hefty accusations are made to ensure that the people involved couldn't continue to do more damage. Sort of like call back. Now I am no supporter of Mike Shields. I think he's bat shit crazy and should have been removed after he failed to send the retro letter and lied about it. But there aren't too many people that doubt that some form of corruption was going on with past contract negotiations, so why aren't steps being taken to get rid of those people too?
When you see the press conference and Dan Gorman and Jim McCarthy are there calling for Shields resignation, there leaves no doubt about the lack of Shields' abilities or that he needs to be psyched. Dan and Mike were the two closest at FOP - closest allies, and Jin and Mike grew up together. Mike has a serious problem and he needs to get help.
Also ask either of them about Shields second city cop policy and how the same person must continually post in different message to beat a point. Other than his brother, no one not even his closest friends trust him now.
Actually, ask the 3rd watch desk guy who does nothing but study for the test. Shields can do no wrong to him, as long as he gets his hours at GI. To busy filling out his grievance forms to even answer the phone an help out us fellow desk officers. Look at his activity and tell me the last time he did a report. How can you be on the desk for years and never complete a report? Pathetic.
Cooter would lock all of them up for theft. And pretending. To be a real police officer
Dan Gorman us already posturing himself to be on another ticket , doesn't want to give his spot up.
12/20/2013 12:18:00 AM
So is Saul del Rivera; he's now with Citywide. This is the guy who would always say "I came to the dance with Mike and am leaving the dance with Mike." How times change? I sure hope Saul's nickel and diming of the FOP stops now! He's known to submit expense reports for $.25, he should be ashamed of himself.
Did Mike turn in his two Lincolns? I think the FOP should auction off the one with the alabaster leather, that's a $3200.00 option and rare like the Chrysler Landau roof package. It will bring in some big bids!
Anonymous said...
Since when is an event # ten digits?
Really Einstein?
Since they started.
First two digits are the year (13).
Next three digits are the sequential day of the year (353rd day)
Last five are the event of the day.
What are they teaching you idiots?
12/20/2013 08:14:00 AM
When they began issuing a new RD number sequence they were supposed to address the problem with repeating RD's and difficulty in finding reports.
The best idea seemed to be a combination of an event or crime code together with a unique number, never to be repeated. A glance would tell you if it was a burglary report or a curfew and what date it occurred.
The unimaginative low forehead knuckle-dragging bosses changed it to dual letters followed, once again, by six numbers and also an event numbers.
Where one identifier could have been used for everything, they went to another fucked up system that required two identifiers.
If the FOP is "trusteed" (taken over) by State or National, is the rest of the staff/board suspended while the Lodge does it audit?
Then who is minding the negotiations ? Or is all the attention on who's who and what team the next lot of eager candidates are jockeying upon.
Cut the bull and let's get the FOP in order or move to allow membership to decertify.
The above event Sounds like a good scenario question for part 2 of the Sgt's exam.
Responding Supervisor will?
Notifications?
Reports?
From 313 study group.
Our union @ work. Just make union hall a d.o.c area and apply the GSVR before anyone gets hurt, gotta laugh because all of this is sad. Be safe my Brothers and Sisters this to shall pass.
Douherty is the only person who will not vote to fire Paul Geiger. What is a matter Bill, are afraid you are going to be exposed by Geiger if he is fired?
Geiger is a anchor around Dougherty neck.
How has Paul Gieger not been fired yet? Anyone who has a connection to Shields has to go. He is an employee and could be fired today. No election needed to get rid of Geiger. The reason it hasn't happened yet is Geiger is also BD lap dog. Fire him today Billyboy.
place shields on Beat 533 in the ATGELD GARDENS on days! he must work in a district heavy with drugs, gangs, domestics ,and low income calls for service: eats at slice of pizza,
sub-sandwich,
Harold's Chicken,
Chinese food to go,
Sharks,
Church's Chicken,
Popeye's,
Burrito King,
I'm just say'n this MoFO pulled off a Bernie Madoff scheme and it back fired, cause the real POPO caught him out, squad give me an event#XOXO! at 1412 W. Washington St for greed, betrayhal, and jealously! hold me down on BS paper............
what a total shame to all officers. I feel like our suspended President has totally brought discredit to our union and department as a whole. He personally only cares about himself and his personal agenda and there is no argument to my point. He really cares only about him and he is a man so blinded by reality that he has completely insulted every current and retired officer. If he does have any proof he should not of handled it this way. I am certain and would be willing to bet all my saving he has no proof but if he did this was not the way. I hope in the future that FOP stays out of the news for a long time.
Mr. Shields, you have brought total shame and discredit to your name. Your true self has finally been exposed to everyone. I have known you a long time and seen these streaks in you personally as have many past and former friends. Now the whole city see's it. I am so angry and frustrated with your actions and the damage you have caused. It is going to take some time to heal as a Union due to your own destructive actions. In the future open your ears and just listen instead of talking. I really hope you take care of yourself right now but I truly think your mind is so out of touch that your nuts. You really F---ed us over hard.
Question...
In my union, if you are suspended pending an investigation, not only are you not allowed back in the lodge until summoned; you're not allowed back to your union peon job until the investigation is over.
If I'm getting this right, the State FOP board suspended Mikes union status completely to temp remove him from office. As such, if I'm getting this right; he isn't allowed to hold a position that is to be filled by a union employee per the CBA.
Am I correct?
Not a cop, just another city worker
12/20/2013 08:14:00 AM
It's probably some old timer that's been hiding at the desk and thinks event numbers off the big scary computer thing are only 5 numbers.
Sgt's and Lt's list out and rescinded immediately 78 & 38
Anonymous said...
Since when is an event # ten digits?
12/20/2013 05:26:00 AM
You must be one of the people who failed the sgts test....
Gorman is a complete goof and part of this Mental Facility regime. He needs to go too!
Treat this like a ghetto domestic and throw bacon grease on him when he shows up.
GDs would of given him a violation, wall time, and a new pumpkin head.
Saw Shields walking in the neighborhood wearing only a bathrobe and slippers. He kept mumbling "I'm not wearing underwear". Looks like he's okay to me.
Just on live news, Shields is on top of the FOP Hall playing a fiddle wearing a toga.
All these house mice FOP political hacks are re-positioning themselves so they can still rake in the $ and avoid actually being policemen. Not that any of the ever were policemen.
Shields and McCarthy were seen at Billy Goats today talking over a beer. Whatever that means. Truth
What if all the current members simply resigned their membership and stopped paying dues? Think they would notice that?
12/20/2013 12:33:00 AM
I'm sure YOU would notice when you lose your healthcare, salary, bid spot, and are fired "at will".
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Why would we vote to allow retirees back in if they haven't paid their back union dues up to date
12/20/2013 01:02:00 AM
This is the former Shields group attempting to gather more sympathy votes from the retirees, after all they will need all the votes they can muster up for Shields new attempted run for president.
I just saw Mike Shields at Belmont/Western gassing up Rahm's ride. He looked pretty dapper with the little earpiece in his ear.
And Rahm sits in the can with the newspaper articles and pleasures himself silly watching the FOP crumble and watching his police force polarizing itself. Congratulations on a job well done, Mike.
We can keep laughing at Shields, Rahm is laughing at us. Rahm is behind Shields suspension because of him and carol Lewis being a constant headache to him. Do we really want to trust Donahue, Dougherty and company?
I wish us luck.
The first thing Dougherty said is that Harold Brown will never get back in FOP. How appropriate the first thing he wants to do is continue to fuck this retiree.
Please tell us who he said this to? Who cares?
. . . Bacon grease
Now that is some funny assed shit! LMFAO!
Check out the previous post. That "crazy eyes" picture says it all.
What kind of dirt does Paul Geiger have on shields and now Dougherty that he hasent been fired yet?
...06013
While the rest of patrol is out working....the bitches in the FOP are making a mockery out of the Chicago Police. Obviously the FOP board is trolling SCC and True News blogs to bad mouth Shields. Shields never had the backing of the old guard. Who the hell was this snot nose punk Shields who would dare to be FOP president. This city is corrupt, and it sounds like the FOP has been corrupted. I say ask the FBI to investigate Shields' allegations. Unions have had a history of being corrupt..either mob influence or political corrupt influence. Our union is no different. Shields said what most of us think and he has not stood still for the lies told by Daley, Rahm, McCarthy, and the complicit Chicago media. These corrupt bastards have to be laughing today at the implosion going on at the FOP. Shields has had backstabbing opposition within the FOP board before he even started. Like someone else said earlier...they held a coup. We will continue to have our union dues squandered on supporting lying Democrats and all the trips, conferences, and golf outings, etc...that our fat cat FOP board members attend.
Anonymous said...
Is he 99 in 018? Will he run for the watch rep position? Will he return to the drama? Will he transfer to 3 to get street credit? Will he go to church on Sunday? Stay tuned.
America
12/20/2013 09:26:00 AM
He is suspended from the FOP and cannot be a watch rep or anything else. If he is expelled from the order after his hearing, (very probable) then he can never again be a rep or hold or run for elective union office and loses all privileges, salary etc. of being Past President.
He is banished to middle earth with the rest of us. And he may produce the smoking gun of evidence and it turns out to be all sale coupons on laundry detergent, boxes of pasta and hand soap.
Anonymous said...
First, why hold a press conference airing our internal issues? Poorly played.
Omertà
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To try and avoid some big time lawsuits from arbitrators, lawyers, the rest of the board and anyone else connected to the past two contracts and accused publicly of fraud.
Anonymous said...
Since when is an event # ten digits?
Really Einstein?
Since they started.
First two digits are the year (13).
Next three digits are the sequential day of the year (353rd day)
Last five are the event of the day.
What are they teaching you idiots?
12/20/2013 08:14:00 AM
THAT is a something! Wow.
I saw Liz Gorman is supporting Rauner. It's been said that Rauner is very good friends with Rahm. He wears a carhart jacket , a flannel shirt, and an 18 dollar watch in his commercials. He is uber rich and trying to come off like an every day Joe. He and Rahm would inflict maximum pain on us, I believe. A bi partisan 2 headed monster. I know Quinn is a mush, but who would hurt Police/Fire more? I like Gorman, but why Rauner ?
I'm just a single vote, But I'm not voting for anyone in march, that is currently on the FOP!
Anonymous said...
Danny, Saul and the Goof McCarthy.....you guys are sellouts and you think by turning your backs on Mike you guys are going to be off the hook ??? #1. U guys WILL NOT get re-elected. I can assure u of that.
#2. You showed every member of this department what sellout rats you are. You think anyone is going to want anything to do with u after u would sellout ur friend like that?? No loyalty. But when he brought u on and u were making the BIG bucks Mike was a "great guy" that u would do anything for right???? You guys are scum.
12/20/2013 07:00:00 AM
No Mike, they showed you that their loyalty is to the membership (remember the people who payed your salary too?).
YOU'RE THE CRAZED RAT!!!!
Why the fuck did FOP need a Lincoln Navigator? Who together fuck approved that? Are we really that ghetto and desperate for attention? That's what happens when you elect idiots. Thank God Im out of here.
Embarrasing...pitiful, but Rahm is looking and laughing his ass off.
Old Retired Guy
Look below and read Dan Shields' response, we know Mike and Dan are hitting the blog hard. He fails to explain why Mike Shields is not send to a south district like past practice of the Department when moving officers out of a unit. He rips officers that were assigned to MSF and TRU (most TRU officers have more time than both Mike and Dan Shields), The fact is that Mike would not of had enough time to bid into 018, 001, 020, 016 - none of the north side districts with all the openings now. Mike is a coward, never the police (nor was Dan). I love that everyone can pull up arrest numbers and check all their bullshit. MSF or TRU officers should never vote for MIke. He does not lead by example. A coward!
Shields talk about the fraud and conspiracy with the department. Well if he goes to any north side district, them there might be some truth to it and he is involved. When MSF and TRU were disbanded, we were sent south, regardless of where you lived. Some officers came from north side districts and the Department or the Union different care. Shields go anywhere else and you are a coward - lead by example.
Hey kid, MSF and TRU never did shit but yell on the radio and take two hour lunches. You need to get some time on the job and bid out like everyone else. For the record ten years is not time on the job Officer.
"I do not know Mike but I going to give him a chance"
First, we know its Mike, but second, hopefully the department hasn't hired the dumbest people in the city.
Now, Mike is ripping Dan, Jim and Saul, but they were on your ticket. You once said you control all three of them. You are crazy dude.
You watch, indictments of fraud, misappropriation of founds, embezzlement. Of all formal and current board members. The FBI / IRS opens the books and the union is dismantled. Jail time, Pointed fingers and UNION GONE. 9.5 wins! I would bet my VRI check on it. This has been a long time coming...Rham well played hand two pair don't beat a straight flush. This is the beginning of the end boys and girls. The ONLY one I feel bad for is Mrs. S., she has to answer the phones for these idiots.
So many lions led by lambs...we lose the rank and file.
Suspending Shields at the meeting was pure grandstanding by Street and Graham who wants to be your next president.
Shields allegations sound like a desperate man who had already been asked by former allies to not run. We all know in Chicago it's not out of the realm of possibility but where is the evidence.
Shields won a close election with very few of his ticket members getting in. Did the old guard sabotage him or did he do it to himself? We still have no answer as to why the letter which led to his down fall was never sent.
With the election imminent it is going to be hard to identify candidates that are not just in it for themselves.All current board members seem to have that stain on them.
Just a few thoughts but……..
I think MS could actually be thrown out of the union for going to the papers. Remember that’s why Sean and Wayne were kicked out.
Also I don’t know if he can run for FOP President at this time because you must be in good standing with the FOP. I don’t think he is in good standing being suspended from the FOP.
Can he now talk to any media about the city and FOP, I think not. Look at the GO’s. If he does since this mess concerns the city and he is not saying anything nice about the city I wonder if could be fired from the Department?
Every member of the Fop should be dumped they are all sellouts and rats. The new members should be paid what they are making on the department not an over inflated salary.
Anonymous said...
We need to move forward as a unit, what Donahue and graham and Dougherty and the rest of the citywide guys did was disgusting.
12/20/2013 12:32:00 AM
U idiot. Quit posting if you're that uninformed. I, as well as all members have lost thousands of dollars as a result of LiL Mikey's amateur self absorbing ego.
WWCD?
What would Cooter Do?
Hey 6:37, fuck you. Teamsters pissed on FOP at CC DOC election because your organization is a bunch of asshats. When you can compete in the bigs, let us know.
We send the fucking letters.
Fuck you. Fuck Shilelds. Fuck Donahue.
Use the new 2013 FLOP books as a guide to vote everyone listed on the shiny new books out. No way dummy Mike is solely responsible...its a TEAM.
WTTW, Chicago Tonight Week in Review, Charles Thomas, Maryt Mitchell, Frank Main and Lester Munsen. 12/20/2013
The police did not look good on this, we are a national laughing stock, the butt of jokes, we are in total disarray, even Mary Mitchell sees Rahm licking his chops ready to throw a huge defeat at the Chicago police.
They are all laughing at us. This is sickening, shameful. And it is our own union leadership that did this to us. We could not have done worse if the Latin Kings, MS13 and Gangster Disciples all wupped our asses on the street.
It is absolutely humiliating to hear Mary Mitchell and Charles Thomas get their shots in and chuckle while they did it. And they were both right.
So now what? Fold up the tent and bend over? This is a disgrace. What the fuck now? We have degenerated to an organization of finger pointers while Rahm and City Attorney's plan how they will administer the death blow.
Notice all that Rahn has not uttered a peep. We will be hearing from him at the appropriate time. Be prepared for the fucking of a lifetime.
Anonymous said...
Just a few thoughts but……..
I think MS could actually be thrown out of the union for going to the papers. Remember that’s why Sean and Wayne were kicked out.
Also I don’t know if he can run for FOP President at this time because you must be in good standing with the FOP. I don’t think he is in good standing being suspended from the FOP.
Can he now talk to any media about the city and FOP, I think not. Look at the GO’s. If he does since this mess concerns the city and he is not saying anything nice about the city I wonder if could be fired from the Department?
12/20/2013 05:56:00 PM
He can say whatever he wants since he belongs on a psychiatric ward getting thorazine IV.
The shields family needs to stop sticking up for their mentally ill brother and get him to a doctor.
Holy crap save the spite for when this is actually done playing out! When all is said and done by all means roast the ones that deserve it, but a lot of this is dirty politics by all involved. Chill the eff out and let's see how this unfolds.
Fire everyone at FOP! Even the cashier at the shop!
One word solution to the ills of this Union.........
COOTER!
Anonymous said...
Every member of the Fop should be dumped they are all sellouts and rats. The new members should be paid what they are making on the department not an over inflated salary.
12/20/2013 06:03:00 PM
That would make sense. Whenever there is money involved , people change. Without the added salary maybe there would be more candidates interested in doing something good for their brothers and sisters and not just for the money
Anonymous said...
Danny, Saul and the Goof McCarthy.....you guys are sellouts and you think by turning your backs on Mike you guys are going to be off the hook ??? #1. U guys WILL NOT get re-elected. I can assure u of that.
#2. You showed every member of this department what sellout rats you are. You think anyone is going to want anything to do with u after u would sellout ur friend like that?? No loyalty. But when he brought u on and u were making the BIG bucks Mike was a "great guy" that u would do anything for right???? You guys are scum.
12/20/2013 07:00:00 AM
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These guys are not sellouts they have realized the truth and have finally said enough is enough and I cannot tell you how many times they have tried to stand up and defend Mike. Yes they have voted in his behalf many times out of loyalty but suddenly realized how embarrassing this has turned.
They have been loyal to the membership by doing their jobs, yes sometimes you feel you owe things to old friends but sorry Mike trying to defend you has become 24 hour job and you have asked just a bit to much.
You have guys like Burns, King, Underwood D. Shields, Trevino, that will defend you forever you might call them loyal we call them misinformed and disloyal to the membership. Best of luck when you appear at the State Board for your hearing. You can bring some of your loyal members.
My prediction: FOP will be decertified as our bargaining agent! All past presidents and board members will be in front of grand jury. Then the Pension Board will be rocked with a scandal and heads will roll there. City files bankruptcy, retires lose half their monthly pension annunity and then some after a couple of years. Rahm wins hand down! WATCH AND REMEMBER THIS POST!
Don't forget that you not only lost a year of retroactive pay increase, but since you didn't get it, it's not part of your salary for each and every year thereafter. You'll always be getting over a thousand dollars LESS each year for the remainder of your career. And if you retire maxed out, you lose 75% of that amount in every year you are still alive after you retire.
The leadership sold out Shields PERIOD
This is the begaining of the End of the Union. Welcome to a Department run be a Federal Manager. Appointed by Obama to clean up the corruption. Say good-by to contract,senority,medical, ect....
Beware Of Graham........his interests are not our interests......
So you got the golf committee chairman running FOP and you you got a 20 year footman wanting to run FOP.....your screwed......
No one will trust GenX again
"Here we are now, entertain us."
Eddie Veder may still be "alive" but the experiment w/GenX makes GenX
"Looking California but feeling Minnestota"
OUTSHINED OUTSHINED OUTSHINED
12/20/2013 06:52:00 PM
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Hey 6:37, fuck you. Teamsters pissed on FOP at CC DOC election because your organization is a bunch of asshats. When you can compete in the bigs, let us know.
We send the fucking letters.
Fuck you. Fuck Shilelds. Fuck Donahue.
12/20/2013 07:40:00 PM
Hey, Dan, if this is you, get off the cop blog.
Regardless, whoever you are, way to win us over, 7;40PM. Why don't you sweet-talk us some more?
""Since when is an event # ten digits?""
Since the last time you looked at your PCAD or PDT....The 1st 2 digits are the year, the 2nd 3 digits are the sequential day of the year (Jan 1st is 001, Feb 1st would be 032, etc) and the last 5 are the sequential 'job of the day' if you will, so 2+3+5 = 10. Now, go back and study some more for the sergeants test.
Mikey, once again, if you're reading, I've got lunch reservations at the Machus Red Fox in Bloomfield, MI, so we can talk over our differences. Please let me know if you can't make it, I can always change the reservation.
why has Geiger not been dumped yet. he seems to be at the root of most of fop's problems. the letter, the accusations.....
How did Shields get to 018? Inquiring minds want to know.
Would be hilarious if Shields was assigned to guard Rahms house on midnights!!!
If he is in 018 on days, the cutoff for bid is December 1995 and Mike is nowhere near that in seniority.
None of you butt heads think that this had nothing to do with Shields contacting Inspector General Joseph Furguson regarding all of this misconduct?
Anonymous said...
Danny, Saul and the Goof McCarthy.....you guys are sellouts and you think by turning your backs on Mike you guys are going to be off the hook ??? #1. U guys WILL NOT get re-elected. I can assure u of that.
#2. You showed every member of this department what sellout rats you are. You think anyone is going to want anything to do with u after u would sellout ur friend like that?? No loyalty. But when he brought u on and u were making the BIG bucks Mike was a "great guy" that u would do anything for right???? You guys are scum.
12/20/2013 07:00:00 AM
No Mike, they showed you that their loyalty is to the membership (remember the people who payed your salary too?).
YOU'RE THE CRAZED RAT!!!!
As an impartial ovserver, if they showed that they're loyality was to the membership or anyone else on that board the letter would have been sent out on time. The only loyalty anyone on that board had was to themselves.
Anonymous said...
You watch, indictments of fraud, misappropriation of founds, embezzlement. Of all formal and current board members. The FBI / IRS opens the books and the union is dismantled. Jail time, Pointed fingers and UNION GONE. 9.5 wins! I would bet my VRI check on it. This has been a long time coming...Rham well played hand two pair don't beat a straight flush. This is the beginning of the end boys and girls. The ONLY one I feel bad for is Mrs. S., she has to answer the phones for these idiots.
So many lions led by lambs...we lose the rank and file.
12/20/2013 05:50:00 P
Will not happen buddy
Teamsters. Leave no doubt, Rahm would crap his pants knowing that. Now we would have some real negotiating..
Since when is an event # ten digits?
12/20/2013 05:26:00 AM
It always has been 10 digits you numb nuts. Go back to your mother's basement.
Why isn't Shields in call back? Seriously there have been allegations made that said he lied and brought discredit to the FOP and the CPD correct? Sounds like a rule 14 violation. If the state lodge holds a hearing and finds him guilty or whatever they may call it he should be fired from CPD. He's already admitted to lying, that's a rule 14 violation right there. Coppers have been fired for less.
Hey kid, MSF and TRU never did shit but yell on the radio and take two hour lunches. You need to get some time on the job and bid out like everyone else. For the record ten years is not time on the job Officer.12/20/2013 09:13:00
Just another hater who wished he was in TRU
So is it OK to finally tell the Emperor he isn't wearing any clothes?
Anonymous said...
Teamsters. Leave no doubt, Rahm would crap his pants knowing that. Now we would have some real negotiating..
12/21/2013 04:02:00 AM
Right. Real negotiating. Teamsters would demand, Rahm would say no, contract goes to an arbitrator. That would be some real negotiating all right. Any hot shot labor organization can argue to a stalemate and then file for arbitration. FOP has been doing it for many years.
We might as well pick the one who charges us the least dues. We are going to hire some lawyer to argue the arbitration anyway.
But for next union president and all future presidents, we need a thorough Psyche exam. We want someone who is a little nuts but has stabilized, with meds or without. No foaming at the mouth, no wild accusations without proof. How about someone like Al Pacino in Scent of a Woman? "If I were the man I was five years ago, I'd take a flame-thrower to this place!"
Hoo-aah!
Teamsters. Leave no doubt, Rahm would crap his pants knowing that. Now we would have some real negotiating..
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The guys who stole billions from the health and welfare funds of the employees they were supposed to be representing?
That would be fitting for Chicago.
Mike S. is connected to the one and only MIke Madgian. The Puppet has failed.
Anonymous said...
Since when is an event # ten digits?
12/20/2013 05:26:00 AM
It always has been 10 digits you numb nuts. Go back to your mother's basement.
12/21/2013 04:26:00 AM
We didn't have any stinkin event numbers when I came on. And I walked to school in deep snow, 3 miles, uphill in both directions. With old shoes. And shoveled coal after school to help out.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mikey, once again, if you're reading, I've got lunch reservations at the Machus Red Fox in Bloomfield, MI, so we can talk over our differences. Please let me know if you can't make it, I can always change the reservation.
12/20/2013 11:03:00 PM
Say hello to Jimmy Hoffa for me. I last saw him in July, 1975; not too far from there actually. In the back of a truck, said he didn't have time to talk.
The first thing Dougherty said is that Harold Brown will never get back in FOP. How appropriate the first thing he wants to do is continue to fuck this retiree.
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Dude let it be. Harold Brown is like Snowden. We can argue the merits of both sides. He got caught.
At least he can work with his brother because no one wants to work with him either.
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No he can't the dept doesn't allow family members on the same car. It's called accountability.
The purge will not be complete until that scum bag Paul Geiger is fired. The city wide team was at our roll call last week and they said they were not sure if they would fire Geiger.
A vote for the city wide team is a vote for the pervert Geiger. He will bankrupt our dues money.
Vote no for everyone who supports Rule 0!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
How did Shields get to 018? Inquiring minds want to know.
12/20/2013 11:15:00 PM
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How did Dougherty get 022?
Funny thing is Ted Street ousted the kid for Donahue and Street my lose his job for doing this w/o consent/counsel of his board.
If you vote for Dougherty you have to vote somewhere on the ticket for Donahue. Dougherty is not qualified to be a leader.
Shields is awesome! He has promised me a good spot if things work out for us. Who needs a retro anyway. I still like Mike.
Donahue makes motion to send 300 delegates to fop convention downstate to vote for Ted Street in election for state pres. In a few months. Same time Street removes Sheilds which ain't legal under fop by laws whether he consulted with board or not. Look it up. You won't find anything in state or national fop by laws that allows Street to do what he did whether you like it or not.
Sounds like Street endured his spot through Donahue and Donahue got he wanted from Street. Troopers ain't to happy. They have a guy running against Street. This will not be good at any level. Bunch of hacks.
But when the dust settles who will wear the Jacket?
Inquiring Retired Gumshoes like to stay in the Know, ya Know?
Shields and his brother are close pals with the second watch lieutenant in 018.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Since when is an event # ten digits?
12/20/2013 05:26:00 AM
It always has been 10 digits you numb nuts. Go back to your mother's basement.
12/21/2013 04:26:00 AM
What happened to chapter 38? How come 1121 S State looks so different. Where's O.W. Wilson?
Anonymous said...
WTTW, Chicago Tonight Week in Review, Charles Thomas, Maryt Mitchell, Frank Main and Lester Munsen. 12/20/2013
The police did not look good on this, we are a national laughing stock, the butt of jokes, we are in total disarray, even Mary Mitchell sees Rahm licking his chops ready to throw a huge defeat at the Chicago police.
They are all laughing at us. This is sickening, shameful. And it is our own union leadership that did this to us. We could not have done worse if the Latin Kings, MS13 and Gangster Disciples all wupped our asses on the street.
It is absolutely humiliating to hear Mary Mitchell and Charles Thomas get their shots in and chuckle while they did it. And they were both right.
So now what? Fold up the tent and bend over? This is a disgrace. What the fuck now? We have degenerated to an organization of finger pointers while Rahm and City Attorney's plan how they will administer the death blow.
Notice all that Rahn has not uttered a peep. We will be hearing from him at the appropriate time. Be prepared for the fucking of a lifetime.
12/20/2013 08:54:00 PM
I agree with everything you said except the part about Rahm licking his chops. I doubt rahm thinks about our fucked up silly FOP much at all. In fact, I doubt he thinks about police officers and the job we do ever. Our city has proven time and time again that they could care less about us. very sad.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The first thing Dougherty said is that Harold Brown will never get back in FOP. How appropriate the first thing he wants to do is continue to fuck this retiree.
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Dude let it be. Harold Brown is like Snowden. We can argue the merits of both sides. He got caught.
12/21/2013 12:13:00 PM
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Dougherty's hate for Harold Brown is well documented and started years before the email caper.
He forced him from the gift store and a couple of years later he challenged to "step outside" from the microphone at a general meeting. Billy is too impulsive to be president.
PS I could not be farther from being a dude. Dudette?
Your elected members should get paid their regular salary, and everything they do for the Lodge should be on their own time. The huge salaries are corrupting your leaders, and makes them susceptible to be being influenced by the Daley's and Rahm's of the world. You do it for the good of the lodge and its members, not your own personal gain.
If you dont think Rahm and politics is behind this then you probaly believe are x governor acted alone.
Where's all our money??????
Anonymous said...
You watch, indictments of fraud, misappropriation of founds, embezzlement. Of all formal and current board members. The FBI / IRS opens the books and the union is dismantled. Jail time, Pointed fingers and UNION GONE. 9.5 wins! I would bet my VRI check on it. This has been a long time coming...Rham well played hand two pair don't beat a straight flush. This is the beginning of the end boys and girls. The ONLY one I feel bad for is Mrs. S., she has to answer the phones for these idiots.
So many lions led by lambs...we lose the rank and file.
12/20/2013 05:50:00 P
Will not happen buddy
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It's happening. The first step was the IG investigation. Step 2 is the IG turning it over to to the FBI
When did they start this event number thing?
The City-Wide Team and Saul, Gorman and McCarthy can post whatever they want about their actions but let me ask you this question to all but the City-Wide Team, Would you want to work in a squad car with Saul, Gorman or McCarthy in a busy District ? If you do please don't take the Detectives exam, we don't need anyone like you in the D Units.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Mikey, once again, if you're reading, I've got lunch reservations at the Machus Red Fox in Bloomfield, MI, so we can talk over our differences. Please let me know if you can't make it, I can always change the reservation.
12/20/2013 11:03:00 PM
Say hello to Jimmy Hoffa for me. I last saw him in July, 1975; not too far from there actually. In the back of a truck, said he didn't have time to talk.
12/21/2013 11:20:00 AM
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Where is Steve Robbins?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The first thing Dougherty said is that Harold Brown will never get back in FOP. How appropriate the first thing he wants to do is continue to fuck this retiree.
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Dude let it be. Harold Brown is like Snowden. We can argue the merits of both sides. He got caught.
12/21/2013 12:13:00 PM
More like railroaded. It was the secretary herself who outed the letter, not Brown.
Decision was made about 3 years ago by the retiree committee. You want back in, pay your past dues, period. If you're a supervisor and want back in pay the $50 per year for every year you missed. It's the only way to be fair to our current members and those who want back in, Period.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
You watch, indictments of fraud, misappropriation of founds, embezzlement. Of all formal and current board members. The FBI / IRS opens the books and the union is dismantled. Jail time, Pointed fingers and UNION GONE. 9.5 wins! I would bet my VRI check on it. This has been a long time coming...Rham well played hand two pair don't beat a straight flush. This is the beginning of the end boys and girls. The ONLY one I feel bad for is Mrs. S., she has to answer the phones for these idiots.
So many lions led by lambs...we lose the rank and file.
12/20/2013 05:50:00 P
Will not happen buddy
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It's happening. The first step was the IG investigation. Step 2 is the IG turning it over to to the FBI
12/21/2013 10:27:00 PM
Where is the proof
MIke Shields promised me a milkshake
Shields and his brother are close pals with the second watch lieutenant in 018.
12/21/2013 05:43:00 PM
This is far beyond getting silly.
Hey 6:37, fuck you. Teamsters pissed on FOP at CC DOC election because your organization is a bunch of asshats. When you can compete in the bigs, let us know.
We send the fucking letters.
Fuck you. Fuck Shilelds. Fuck
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You watch, indictments of fraud, misappropriation of founds, embezzlement. Of all formal and current board members. The FBI / IRS opens the books and the union is dismantled. Jail time, Pointed fingers and UNION GONE. 9.5 wins!
*Show US the OUR Money Capparelli
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It's happening. The first step was the IG investigation. Step 2 is the IG turning it over to to the FBI
12/21/2013 10:27:00 PM
Where is the proof
12/22/2013 01:49:00 AM
Exactly. Shields was never a detective. He was barely a cop on a beat car in a slow district. He doesn't know how to put a case together. He hasn't leaned those advanced concepts like evidence, jurisdiction, the law.
He's got nothing but a lot of liability for the lodge.
I'm so sick of hearing Why didn't the rest of the board make sure he sent the letter? When your partner says he's going to do something, say an inventory, do you ask to see the paperwork? No, you take him at his word. Same applies here. He said he was going to do something, didn't do it, and lied about it more than once. He and he alone was the problem.
I agree with everything you said except the part about Rahm licking his chops. I doubt rahm thinks about our fucked up silly FOP much at all. In fact, I doubt he thinks about police officers and the job we do ever. Our city has proven time and time again that they could care less about us. very sad.
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The city can keep my pay if the mayor will only love me.
Anonymous said...
Shields and his brother are close pals with the second watch lieutenant in 018.
12/21/2013 05:43:00 PM
This is far beyond getting silly.
12/22/2013 06:37:00 AM
So let's see when the dirt tricks calendar shows it's time to move on and start attacking Angelo and/or McDonagh?
Anonymous Anonymous said...
Decision was made about 3 years ago by the retiree committee. You want back in, pay your past dues, period. If you're a supervisor and want back in pay the $50 per year for every year you missed. It's the only way to be fair to our current members and those who want back in, Period.
12/22/2013 12:52:00 AM
Post all the bullshit you want Rich Ag-u-liar, but the retiree committee again this November voted unanimously to bring every one in the fold.
Hey Rick its over. Some guys must just be slow. Mikey doesn't need the retiree vote anymore because he can't run anymore.
Maybe that's why you lost three dogs. You just don't get it. Time to get off of the Titanic dumbfuck.
The retiree committee does not run the board of directors and the board of directors would need to vote on your amnesty decision and approve it by a 2/3rds vote as it reverses a previous board decision. Just don't get this though. Someone makes Sgt but continues to pay their $50 per year to remain a fraternal member and after 10 years they have contributed $500. No comes along the retired Sgt, Lt or Captain who has been out of our ranks for 20 years and would have paid $1000 to remain a fraternal member but you are going to let them back into the FOP for $40. That's fair especially to the people who have been paying faithfully all along. Let's just reward everyone here illegally with citizenship to the United States, that's not a slap in the face to everyone who struggled and fought to attain citizenship legally, right.
As a member of the FOP for over fifteen years I am extremely embarrassed and infuriated at the LACK OF LEADERSHIP SHOWN BY THE ENTIRE FOP (lodge 7) LEADERSHIP. The in- fighting, back stabbing and all around bullshit needs to stop. I believe the elected members of the FOP have forgotten the reason they are there. Its not to line their pockets withe side-room deals or making nice with members of anyone in the mayoral staff, IT IS TO ENSURE THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL GET A FAIR CONTRACT AND MAINTAIN A QUICK AND PROMPT GRIEVANCE PROCESS. The past few years the FOP has not only forgotten this they out right ignored it. If FOP lodge 7 cannot get its act together we need to petition the national lodge to take over and right the ship. I will admit, I have never been to a FOP meeting, but I really should not need to go because these elected officials are there to ensure the right things are being done for the active and retired members of the lodge, apparently they have not!!
You want back in, pay your past dues, period. If you're a supervisor and want back in pay the $50 per year for every year you missed.
***$50 That's cheaper than our Dues as POs WTF!!!!!
Anonymous Anonymous said...
The retiree committee does not run the board of directors and the board of directors would need to vote on your amnesty decision and approve it by a 2/3rds vote as it reverses a previous board decision. Just don't get this though. Someone makes Sgt but continues to pay their $50 per year to remain a fraternal member and after 10 years they have contributed $500. No comes along the retired Sgt, Lt or Captain who has been out of our ranks for 20 years and would have paid $1000 to remain a fraternal member but you are going to let them back into the FOP for $40. That's fair especially to the people who have been paying faithfully all along. Let's just reward everyone here illegally with citizenship to the United States, that's not a slap in the face to everyone who struggled and fought to attain citizenship legally, right.
12/23/2013 09:45:00 AM
So the CityWide Team extends their hate from retirees to Hispanics now.
Is this one the advise of special advisor Terry Qualles?
Anonymous said...
You want back in, pay your past dues, period. If you're a supervisor and want back in pay the $50 per year for every year you missed.
***$50 That's cheaper than our Dues as POs WTF!!!!!
12/23/2013 02:53:00 PM
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As an active po I get legal defense and allegedly contract representation. Retirees get two stickers and a calendar book. They do not get to vote on contracts only election of officers. You citywide guys better not declare war on retirees or they will go 100% for one of the two other tickets.
Anonymous said...
Hey Rick its over. Some guys must just be slow. Mikey doesn't need the retiree vote anymore because he can't run anymore.
Maybe that's why you lost three dogs. You just don't get it. Time to get off of the Titanic dumbfuck.
12/23/2013 07:15:00 AM
Sounds like Rich does not like Rick. But then no one likes Rich. You make Tim Fallon look like Mr. Congeniality.
To someone who never held office or ran on anyone's ticket I never realized how vicious you people were. I just went to meetings to keep informed. You screwed all of us to ensure you guys got re-elected.
Rich, Frank, and Billy you ALL told us we were getting a retro when you got scared that the tide was going to hit all of you not just Mikey. Now I am afraid that we will get a retro. The city will go out of it's way to make you look good now. But what will the cost be? Loss of pension benefits and/or our cola?
No matter what happens it could look to an outsider that you are ALL in bed with the city. Unless their is not retro and we get screwed on Springfield. Then you will ALL look just inept.
Can I get an event number for explaining what an event number is?
Everybody seems to be missing one big thing. Greg Bella was at the last General Meeting. It came clear why soon enough. To watch the palace coup.
Remember the lawsuit Mike S. had filed against Greg Bella? I bet that gets dropped now, if it isn't done already. Among other reasons Mike got tossed: To save Greg from an adverse decision in that lawsuit.
The plot thickens. It wouldn't surprise me if Mike S. doesn't start taking singing lessons and I don't mean with the men's chorus.
Anonymous said...
The first thing Dougherty said is that Harold Brown will never get back in FOP. How appropriate the first thing he wants to do is continue to fuck this retiree.
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Dude let it be. Harold Brown is like Snowden. We can argue the merits of both sides. He got caught.
12/21/2013 12:13:00 PM
Your facts are faulty. Brown and ANOTHER retiree both got caught - for EXACTLY the same "crime." The only difference is the other retiree had a hearing and was NOT thrown out like Brown was. Hello lawsuit!!
Your facts are faulty. Brown and ANOTHER retiree both got caught - for EXACTLY the same "crime." The only difference is the other retiree had a hearing and was NOT thrown out like Brown was. Hello lawsuit!!
Yea, big lawsuit coming. He has had time to file one and havent seen one.
Whats the court going to do? make FOP take him back? Lot of money in that, but then again the lawyers do it for priniple, LOL
Everybody seems to be missing one big thing. Greg Bella was at the last General Meeting. It came clear why soon enough. To watch the palace coup.
Remember the lawsuit Mike S. had filed against Greg Bella? I bet that gets dropped now, if it isn't done already. Among other reasons Mike got tossed: To save Greg from an adverse decision in that lawsuit.
The plot thickens. It wouldn't surprise me if Mike S. doesn't start taking singing lessons and I don't mean with the men's chorus.
If you have been involved in a union for a while, you can't sing much because most have alot to hide themselves. Then everyone starts talking and the building comes crumbling down
Anonymous said...
Everybody seems to be missing one big thing. Greg Bella was at the last General Meeting. It came clear why soon enough. To watch the palace coup.
Remember the lawsuit Mike S. had filed against Greg Bella? I bet that gets dropped now, if it isn't done already. Among other reasons Mike got tossed: To save Greg from an adverse decision in that lawsuit.
The plot thickens. It wouldn't surprise me if Mike S. doesn't start taking singing lessons and I don't mean with the men's chorus.
If you have been involved in a union for a while, you can't sing much because most have alot to hide themselves. Then everyone starts talking and the building comes crumbling down
12/24/2013 11:43:00 AM
"Let justice be done though the heavens fall."
You want back in, pay your past dues, period. If you're a supervisor and want back in pay the $50 per year for every year you missed.
***$50 That's cheaper than our Dues as POs WTF!!!!!
12/23/2013 02:53:00 PM
Ya doesn't seem fair that someone paying $50 a month has the same vote as someone paying $50 a year. Nothing against retirees, I'll be one soon enough, it's clearly a case of using an unprecented means to swing an election.
You can say that retirees don't vote on active duty issues but the facts are that those they vote into office are the ones selecting active duty issues so yes it does matter.
Retirees should have some say but I'm afraid they are being used as pawns for some group to win an election that they could not win via exclusively active members. Be aware retirees. Look out for yourselves and us and don't believe these jerk's hype. We want them all out.
The retirees are the only thing holding this union together. All you hard charging coppers are way too busy working VRI and overtime to even attend your union meetings, at least 5 times a year to qualify to run for election, yet you know everything that is wrong with this union and probably voted for the hope and change candidate that took money from your pocket by not sending the retro letter in on time. You take 100% of the bullshit out there and believe it as the gospel truth. Get involved in your union and find out the real truth. Your hope and change candidate Shields took a page from the Rahm/ Obama playbook and just like the 2 assholes has no interest in obeying the constitution, just makes up the rules as he goes. Now his bullshit has finally caught up with him and you too because his hope and change cost everyone of us real money.
A Retiree
Anonymous said...
As a member of the FOP for over fifteen years I am extremely embarrassed and infuriated at the LACK OF LEADERSHIP SHOWN BY THE ENTIRE FOP (lodge 7) LEADERSHIP. The in- fighting, back stabbing and all around bullshit needs to stop. I believe the elected members of the FOP have forgotten the reason they are there. Its not to line their pockets withe side-room deals or making nice with members of anyone in the mayoral staff, IT IS TO ENSURE THAT THE MEN AND WOMEN OF THE CHICAGO POLICE DEPARTMENT WILL GET A FAIR CONTRACT AND MAINTAIN A QUICK AND PROMPT GRIEVANCE PROCESS. The past few years the FOP has not only forgotten this they out right ignored it. If FOP lodge 7 cannot get its act together we need to petition the national lodge to take over and right the ship. I will admit, I have never been to a FOP meeting, but I really should not need to go because these elected officials are there to ensure the right things are being done for the active and retired members of the lodge, apparently they have not!!
12/23/2013 01:17:00 PM
To the know-it-all that has never been to a meeting. Our members elected a dictator who had 16 votes on the board who all followed his corrupt practices as our president and saw nothing wrong with it. You get what you elect. Thankfully the ship has been saved and the people now running our union will make every decision with the best interest of the members as the only consideration. Obviously the hope and change does not work when your only consideration is what is more beneficial for me, my side job for a yes vote or doing the right thing for the members. Most of these board members voted in lock step with Shields totally ignoring our constitution, by-laws, oath of office and the rules governing the board of directors. Its not too hard to find out who they are and who voted consistently against their illegal actions that culminated with the suspension of their lawless leader and a boat load of charges being brought against him by the State Lodge and the board of directors.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
You want back in, pay your past dues, period. If you're a supervisor and want back in pay the $50 per year for every year you missed.
***$50 That's cheaper than our Dues as POs WTF!!!!!
12/23/2013 02:53:00 PM
Ya doesn't seem fair that someone paying $50 a month has the same vote as someone paying $50 a year. Nothing against retirees, I'll be one soon enough, it's clearly a case of using an unprecented means to swing an election.
You can say that retirees don't vote on active duty issues but the facts are that those they vote into office are the ones selecting active duty issues so yes it does matter.
Retirees should have some say but I'm afraid they are being used as pawns for some group to win an election that they could not win via exclusively active members. Be aware retirees. Look out for yourselves and us and don't believe these jerk's hype. We want them all out.
12/25/2013 03:14:00 AM
Well junior if you are paying attention the Park District just gave up a lot of retiree benefits in their contract. Retiree's don't get to vote in their elections.
If it was only to the kids with hair on their heads they would take a 2% retro for the 1st year of the contract and take the Sgt's 1st offer or the Park District's.
6 years w/o a cola is 18% vs 2%. that's on top of the CityWide's fuckup in the last contract that cost us 6.1%, Now we're up to 24% plus the cola's after that will be half of CPI or a max of 1.5%. If you live 10 years you are talking about a 25% or better reduction in income.
If you trust the guys who have been upstairs at the union hall for 12 years your naïve. You will get a retro but pay for it 10 times over. That why the retirees don't trust the CityWide guys and it has absolutely nothing with Shields as he was never going to be re-elected anyway. Now we are down to three major tickets. Which one do you trust not to sellout to Rahm? Retirees will never be pawns.
We wanted to give back the gold braid pensions to get a compounded cola. The citywide team never pushed it because as much as they said the Nolan team was in bed with the city they got into the same bed before the sheets ever got cold. Donahue would never talk about contract talks at meetings because he said we will never negotiate in the public. The membership was always kept in the dark for his 9 years. He was in bed with the city before Hurley. Think of who was the real power in the 19th ward 15 years ago. Donahue was a sellout as State President. Remember that when you vote.
12/23/2013 01:17:00 PM
To the know-it-all that has never been to a meeting. Our members elected a dictator who had 16 votes on the board who all followed his corrupt practices as our president and saw nothing wrong with it. You get what you elect. Thankfully the ship has been saved and the people now running our union will make every decision with the best interest of the members as the only consideration. Obviously the hope and change does not work when your only consideration is what is more beneficial for me, my side job for a yes vote or doing the right thing for the members. Most of these board members voted in lock step with Shields totally ignoring our constitution, by-laws, oath of office and the rules governing the board of directors. Its not too hard to find out who they are and who voted consistently against their illegal actions that culminated with the suspension of their lawless leader and a boat load of charges being brought against him by the State Lodge and the board of directors.
12/25/2013 02:32:00 PM
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Thank You Kevin Graham for comments.
If the think you came off as anything other than a jerk at the last meeting you're are not being realistic. You looked like a kid that was bullied his whole life and now is the bully. You and Tracey Qualles embarrassed Bill.
PS To those who never paid attention This is how the mob ruled 12 years ago when Donahue attacked Bill Nolan and his guys. For his 9 years in office they ruled with an iron hand. If you questioned them on a issue you just got thrown out of the union. Donahue/Bella have cost us well in excess of 1 million dollars in legal bills and law suits during his tenure.
Billy you will never be your own man if Donahue never leaves the Board. You will always be considered a puppet. You got to cut Moriarty loose.
Ya doesn't seem fair that someone paying $50 a month has the same vote as someone paying $50 a year.
12/25/2013 03:14:00 AM
Representation at shootings, CR#'s and major law suits. The legal defense is a bargain at 50 a month.
Daley Days are additional regular days off that fire suppression Firefighters working the 24-hour
shift receive. Daley Days are the 5th
working day in these Firefighters schedule, which they
typically do not work.
Mike I will be there for you man as long as I keep getting my side gig hours. Pay to play, that's how I roll.
Mike was in 18th district before he left for pension board
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