Suburban Anti-Gunners Not Satisfied
- School officials in a Chicago suburb are not thrilled with a state law passed last year requiring schools to post a "no gun" sticker featuring an Image of a handgun with a red slash through it.
Guns were already not allowed in schools before the law was passed, and now some school officials are worried the Image on the warning sign might send the wrong message.
“One of my biggest concerns as a principal is safety and security,” Tinley Park High School Principal Theresa Nolan told the Southtown Star. “It is bothersome to have to post a sticker of a gun that says, ‘Hey, folks, leave your guns at home.' ”
Nolan said she feared the Image could be misinterpreted.
Misinterpreted? How? It's a gun silhouette with a big ol' red circle with a line through it. Pretty straightforward....No Guns.
And placing it on the door lets everyone (with good or bad intentions) know that all legal firearms are banned on the premises, meaning no one who actually believes in following the law will be around to defend themselves or others with a firearm, kind of like that theater in Colorado, or those Universities in Illinois and Virginia, or that Grade School in Connecticut, all so-called "gun-free zones" full of defenseless victims.
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posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
52 Comments:
Stupid assholes.
Liberals are so stupid that if it weren't for others protecting them, they would die off.
Koolaid drinking fools like this will ultimately bring this nation to its knees. Shame.
ABC 7 news last week ran a piece that Ald. Smith (43rd ward) is encouraging all businesses and restaurants in the ward to post the "No Guns" poster to keep out the law-abiding CCW permittee.
It is very successful It will keep me out of every restaurant in your ward.
And if/when your restaurants get robbed and the patrons pistol-whipped, I will enjoy a good laugh.
Worried about the gun sticker????
Let's be more worried that some of these school administrators are off the deep end. Who screens these people on interviews and job searches?
I think they should ALL be given a psyche examination and weeded out of these jobs.
If we compare them with private industry, they sure aren't cranking out any quality products.
If we just look at dropouts as "defective product", these educational "leaders" should be fired for gross incompetence in "running the business".
Not a LEO, JAFO
Just a couple of questions...
How is it that anyone can infringe on my constitutional right to carry by putting up a sign?
That didn't work down south at water fountains and lunch counters with "Whites Only" signs after the late '50s.
Can I wear a hoodie with a sign stating "Liberals must stay 500 yards away or rick being beaten unconscious, and have it really work? And if private companies like banks hand out explosives to criminals, why can't I legally and immune from legal action wear a fake I-phone that explodes if it gets 100 feet away from me?
Fuck these coward ass hypocrites!
They're a bunch of assholes for trying to hide behind school kids with this gun free zone bullshit.
Follow the Israeli model...
They don't suffer fools when it comes to protecting SCHOOL CHILDREN!
Typical libtards... They're mad because they got it just the way they want it?
>LOOK LOOK MR. CRAZY PERSON! A BUILDING FULL OF UNPROTECTED PEOPLE FOR YOUR KILLING PLEASURE!<
Fuck the adults... They can fend for themselves but to leave children unprotected in this era is a horse shit political play.
This is the shit when yellow-pinkies have taken over public education.
These pus for brains will kick a kid out of school because he nibbled his jelly bread sammich into the shape of a gun and said "BANG!"
Jayzus... Chain all these ignorant progressive tits together and shove them overboard...
As a concerned parent of school age children, I will ignore that sign as I do everywhere else. I hope everyone on there will do the same. I know you will.
SCC, what you're forgetting is that SEEING the image of a gun on a sticker might be frightening and upsetting for students. What about the culture of excellence at Tinley Park HS? What if students under-perform on, say, standardized tests as a result of viewing the sticker with an image of a gun?
The no guns signs applies to retired and off duty officers too.Sorry I didn't create the law I just obey it,will you or be in a trick bag?
So let me get this straight, the signs will prevent some nut from entering a place of business, school etc... who is intent on doing evil. That sign will protect me and my family if we visit that establishment? So law abiding citizens who can legally carry a gun will be denied their constitutional right in certain places. The establishments that deny legal concealed and carry must guarantee the safety of me and my family. The schools that my children attend that have those signs better guarantee that NO ONE EVER enters that school armed with the intent to do wrong. Promise me that and I'll leave my gun at home.
No guns=we are defenseless and come here to murder us and steal.
If an establishment has this no guns allowed sign displayed, think twice about any off duty law enforcement action, as you will be on your own with no backing from the establishment you were trying to assist.
Just for your information. Jewel is going to follow the "No guns allowed" and not allow concealed carry in their stores. So just like Post offices and other federal property, C.C. carriers along with retired and off-duty cops will no be allowed to carry in that business.
Interesting observation. Was at a downtown hotel this weekend and saw the little sticker on the doors. Can a hotel ban CC.? A restaurant and other accommodations are one thing, but what if they come from Marion by Amtrak and are temporarily residing there? They can't just leave it in the car.
There will be many "test cases" that redefine this law. Please use common sense and discretion when dealing with these cases, for your well being and theirs.
It doesn't mean "no guns", it means "NO BERETTA 92's"
Good advice.
Best thing is, this idiot gets paid $148,000 a year to be this dense.
The libtard forces for idiocy strike again! look at what they teach college students now.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2014/02/college-students-offered-college-credits-to-attend-radical-white-privilege-conference/
This kinda shits gotta stop!
Well, if the school administration has to post pictures of guns how can they justify expelling kids for drawing pictures of guns?
Why do they think shooters go to schools? IIRC, the Batman shooter went to a gun free zoned movie theater that was farther from him.
I'm offended too. The sign obviously means you can't carry a Beretta 92FS yet people with Glocks can carry? WTF?????
I was at a north suburban school last week the signs are posted as you enter the parking lot that all concealed weapons are banned from lot and building. I wondered if open carry was OK? Yes, I am positive that these signs will deter any person, to include criminals and mentally wrong from bringing any weapon into the school. I am positive that it will work. Nothing to fear.
There is a reason it's called CONCEALED CARRY. I don't carry in the courthouses, police stations, airports, etc where I may run into a scanner. Neither do I worry about the off limits signs. The only time I intend to be "caught" carrying in one of the prohibited zones is if/when some POS who isn't about to obey the law means to do me or mine harm. At that point I'll do what I can to neutralize the threat, place the gun on the floor and step back with my hands empty and away from my body and wait for the police. I know (having been the police) that when seconds count, the police are just minutes away!
Maybe if our educators could teach the little mongrels how to spell and read GUNS, the picture wouldn't be needed on the sign.
What kind of shitty education are those students getting that they wouldn't understand a sign of a Gun with a red line through it. let me guess no parents went to the school to address the issue... alibtard would've raised he'll on issues they didn't like. Do the right thing people.
She didn't say it in so many words, but what she's really "upset" about is this:
"I'm very concerned for the safety of the students (and myself) now that the world knows that no guns are allowed on campus."
I think she's living in denial. Defend the defenseless (with guns).
@Ellis4TW
The only "misinterpretation" that could occur with the "no guns" symbol is that the gun depicted is a handgun, and some of the more mischievous honor students might assume that means a sawed-off shotgun is perfectly okay.
This is all about demonizing firearms and firearms owners however, whenever, and where ever they can. They use emotional arguments to do this.
The strategy is well-documented and known to pro-gun advocates.
From my standpoint, I simply use their strategy against them. I use emotional arguments flipped 180 degrees when responding to them:
"OMG! I can't believe you'd leave yourself and your children so vulnerable to a criminal! You really should get some training and learn to use a firearm."
As for these signs - they're total bullshit. They should be entitled "Welcome Criminals. Law-abiding citizens have been disarmed for your convenience. Thank you for your patronage."
I can't wait for some criminal to ignore the sign, some law-abiding citizen who is a CCW licensee that left his firearm in the car to get beaten and robbed, and for that same CCW licensee to sue the shit out of the locale that put up the sign for failure to protect him - regardless of what the law provides for with indemnification. Sue their asses regardless of the law just like they sue our asses regardless of the law - haul their fucken behinds into Court and let them explain why they thought everyone would be so safe, that a criminal would obey the law, despite prolific amounts of evidence to the contrary.
And these mental case Alderpersons who are proposing all businesses post "No Gun" signs - how many of them are packing? Because they made themselves some version of a "Peace Officer"? Are they going to obey the law? As far as I understand, it means the off-duty Police can't carry in the location either - please correct me if I'm incorrect...
Not for nothing, but doesn't the mere image of a gun, even with a "No" red line through it, violate the zero tolerance prohibition on ANY depiction of a firearm on school property?
Anonymous said...
Just a couple of questions...
How is it that anyone can infringe on my constitutional right to carry by putting up a sign?
That didn't work down south at water fountains and lunch counters with "Whites Only" signs after the late '50s.
Can I wear a hoodie with a sign stating "Liberals must stay 500 yards away or rick being beaten unconscious, and have it really work? And if private companies like banks hand out explosives to criminals, why can't I legally and immune from legal action wear a fake I-phone that explodes if it gets 100 feet away from me?
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You should probably study the consitution some more
So what is the penalty for peeling off the sticker?
Post a sign with a police officer in uniform with the redline through it "no armed police or citizens" another libtard principle, democratic voter no doubt!
(The no guns signs applies to retired and off duty officers too.Sorry I didn't create the law I just obey it,will you or be in a trick bag?
2/06/2014 07:13:00 AM)
I'm not concerned if there's no detector at the entrance. As far as pulling it, to defend myself or my family.
I'm also wondering if a business puts up the gun free zone sign, if that also means that the owner/proprietor of that business is in violation. Kind of like having a handicap parking spot in your store parking lot doesn't mean that you can park in it.
A recently retired CPD.
Anonymous said...
I was at a north suburban school last week the signs are posted as you enter the parking lot that all concealed weapons are banned from lot and building. I wondered if open carry was OK? Yes, I am positive that these signs will deter any person, to include criminals and mentally wrong from bringing any weapon into the school. I am positive that it will work. Nothing to fear.
2/06/2014 12:27:00 PM
If only they had those little decals at Sandy Hook...
Anonymous said...
If an establishment has this no guns allowed sign displayed, think twice about any off duty law enforcement action, as you will be on your own with no backing from the establishment you were trying to assist.
2/06/2014 08:43:00 AM
If anything goes down, you will be described to the real police as one of the offenders. Be careful taking any action in one of those places. I would only if directly threatened. Otherwise, I dial 911.
Anonymous said...
Just for your information. Jewel is going to follow the "No guns allowed" and not allow concealed carry in their stores. So just like Post offices and other federal property, C.C. carriers along with retired and off-duty cops will no be allowed to carry in that business.
2/06/2014 08:51:00 AM
What a shame that Jewel is about to lose my lifelong patronage.
"If an establishment has this no guns allowed sign displayed, think twice about any off duty law enforcement action, as you will be on your own with no backing from the establishment you were trying to assist."
Unless you were hired or specifically asked by the establishment to provide security or intervene, the establishment will in no way, shape or form assist you.
At least if you are an off-duty LEO and you are taking police action, you have your employer behind you.
A retired LEO you are totally naked legally. If you have any assets, you will be a target.
You CCW holders: think hard before getting involved. If you violate the signs, does that make your self-defense a crime?
The communists running Cook County do not want the citizens to defend themselves. The only reason Concealed Carry exists at all is because of the Federal Courts. There are going to be so many restrictions that most people will not bother as they will find it is not worth the hassle. The career criminal will get a free pass, you will get shafted 6 ways to Sunday.
For George Zimmerman to walk out of court cost $3M in legal bills Most of that will be paid by Floriduh. Illinois has no such provision.
Just a quick change of pace...I was searching for Remington Rand 1911 (WWII issue) info earlier this evening and came across this blog....one thread there I found humorous. It's about carrying handcuffs. On and OFF duty.
The guy who posted it has a username chgofirefighter. And also list being ISP amongst a bunch of other stuff.
Another poster claims he carries 'thumbcuffs'.
Check it out, you may have to copy and paste:
http://forums.1911forum.com/showthread.php?t=396567
Ok... Let the anti-gun nitwits have it their way...
If anyone carrying concealed happens to be near one of the stupid places with the stupid signs in the window when a mouth-breather gets a hair across his ass to do the fool?
F.I.K.R
Fuck It, Keep Rollin'...
The shooting, screams and cries of terror will only bother you for a while...
That's far better than losing your freedom, having your finances destroyed defending yourself, being relentlessly slandered in the anal whore media and having the same anal whore media rifling through your garbage and pawing through your underwear drawer "looking for something" like the fucking low-life gypsies they are.
These libtards have no fucking clue about how this anti-gun silly shit sets the table for "Every Man For Himself."
Libtards don't have the ferocious mindset to play a game where the rules do not favor them.
It will be FUN to watch these soft, pampered, green ass m/fers having to fight for their lives while frantically dialing 911...
In GOD we trust...
Yet our Heavenly Father's Divine inspration of man has given forth the mighty tools of self preservation from the heathen.
That big .45 ACP pistol belching 230 grain +p flying ashtrays at 1000 feet per second riding 18 inches of flame.
No need to shoot really fast when you can shoot REALLY HARD!
BOOM!
KLAAANG!
I like the fact that those stickers are on the doors of the station at Belmont & Western (old 019.) How am going to qualify if I can't bring my guns into the building? No wonder I'm always on the shame list.
You mean to say those "No Guns" signs don't really work?
They have to. They just do. I just know it.
The Democrats told me so and everything they say is gospel.
I live in OK and am temporarily working in this area (16 months now). This subject recently came up on a shooter's forum I am a member of in Oklahoma. Post #15 is great!
http://www.okshooters.com/showthread.php?191324-School-officials-deeply-troubled-over-guns-appearing-ON-SIGNS-BANNING-GUNS&p=2402578#post2402578
One suburban American Legion post has those signs on the door. Since the organization is made of vets and their dependents it looks like that post has the liberal belief that Veterans are some how mentally challenged and should not have access to weapons. Also, I believe that the sticker also means that they can't store ceremonial weapons on property.
Why would a Veteran Organization put that up?
That's one post I will never go to again. Thankfully no other post I have been to has those stickers.
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
Just for your information. Jewel is going to follow the "No guns allowed" and not allow concealed carry in their stores. So just like Post offices and other federal property, C.C. carriers along with retired and off-duty cops will no be allowed to carry in that business.
2/06/2014 08:51:00 AM
Yes, any business has the right under Illinois law to ban firearms carry within their establishment and that includes off duty and retired cops. But, there is no penalty under law for off duty and retired who do decide to carry within the business. They can be asked to leave, but that is the extent. They are not covered under the new Illinois Concealed carry laws.This thinking applies to sports stadiums ( Cubs are adding metal detectors this year).
Anonymous said...
The no guns signs applies to retired and off duty officers too.Sorry I didn't create the law I just obey it,will you or be in a trick bag?
2/06/2014 07:13:00 AM
No trick bag here. No violation of the law here. The can ask you to leave however.
If the owner of a business posts a no guns sign, it does not apply to the owner or employees, only to patrons. Read the new law. And, the new concealed carry law does not apply to retired or off duty police officers. They can be asked to leave however, but it is no violation of any current Illinois law.
"...some school officials are worried the image on the warning sign might send the wrong message."
A pictogram of a gun is as bad as a gun, which is bad.
Get that through yer head. Can't stand these people who go around distinguishing physical reality from their own internal emotional overflow.
* * *
Sandy Hook was committed by a kid pointing a chicken wing around the room and going "BANG, BANG, BANG."
(actual case in which the kid was expelled...)
"Be careful taking any action in one of those places. I would only if directly threatened. Otherwise, I dial 911."
2/06/2014 08:35:00 PM
...as long as you don't bump into me edgin out the side door...
F__k these places. F__k CVS with no cigs. F--k 'em all.
Anonymous said...
Just for your information. Jewel is going to follow the "No guns allowed" and not allow concealed carry in their stores. So just like Post offices and other federal property, C.C. carriers along with retired and off-duty cops will no be allowed to carry in that business.
2/06/2014 08:51:00 AM
Sorry, but Jewel is not just like a federal property! P.O.'s off duty + retired can legally carry there, as the signs do not apply to us, only CCW "licensees", as stated in the statute. They cannot prevent us from entering their store. I would not, however, offer my "free" services by getting involved in some off-duty scrape, knowing how everyone will probably chastise you for being armed inside their store, when they had their stupid sticker displayed. Fuck 'em. They can defend their own premises with their own security. I won't lift a finger to help. If they are smart, and read this column, they'll think twice about their signs, though.
Sorry, but Jewel is not just like a federal property! P.O.'s off duty + retired can legally carry there, as the signs do not apply to us, only CCW "licensees", as stated in the statute. They cannot prevent us from entering their store. I would not, however, offer my "free" services by getting involved in some off-duty scrape, knowing how everyone will probably chastise you for being armed inside their store, when they had their stupid sticker displayed. Fuck 'em. They can defend their own premises with their own security. I won't lift a finger to help. If they are smart, and read this column, they'll think twice about their signs, though.
2/07/2014 08:43:00 PM
You are mistaken. Call IROCC and verify. Retired PO's with the IROCC card must follow the same laws etc. about CC as anyone else. You can test it out and post your results. Go into a place with the decal, reveal your CC status and wait for the on duty police. Sort of a test case.
What IROCC did is to codify CC for PO's retired in good standing, we now have standardized CC across all 50 states. If you think weapons laws do not apply to retired PO's, do what you want but the folks down at the IROCC office in Springfield told me differently.
Anonymous said...
I like the fact that those stickers are on the doors of the station at Belmont & Western (old 019.) How am going to qualify if I can't bring my guns into the building? No wonder I'm always on the shame list.
2/07/2014 06:52:00 AM
Ask the range guy to borrow his gun.
I think maybe you have this one wrong, At my doctors office building there is clearly a sign stating no Berreta 92FS which means I dont have to worry I carry a compact M&P in 40 cal ther is no sign banning it.
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