Rauner up 10 Points
The campaign isn't in full swing yet, but Quinn is starting from behind:
- The election may be nearly five months away, but for now, Republican Bruce Rauner has a solid lead over Gov. Pat Quinn, a new poll shows.
Reboot Illinois, which was founded by hedge fund manager Anne Dias Griffin, commissioned the poll by We Ask America, an independent polling subsidiary of the Illinois Manufacturers’ Association.
The poll, which was conducted June 10 and 11 among 1,075 registered voters asked a basic question heading into November: “If the election for Illinois governor were held today, for whom would you vote?”
Rauner received the vote from 47 percent of respondents, campared [sic] to 37 percent for Quinn, with 16 percent saying they're undecided.
16% undecided and a plus/minus of 3 points means Quinn is well within the margin for error and we haven't seen any dirty tricks yet.
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posted by SCC at 12:03 AM
64 Comments:
I don't even know what to do with them. Quinn obviously blows but rauner I heard is anti Union.
Great so Rham and his buddy Rauner can really have their way with us.
Go ahead, vote Democrat. Give them 4 more years to run Illinois deeper underground.
Then let's see what happens.
Quinn is well within the margin for Diebold.
Rauner is no better than Quinn. Maybe be worse. He is a close buddy of our own mayor Raccoon Eyes. He won't be a friend of the police or firefighters when it comes to pensions. When voting for either of these two jerks it's a choice between cancer or a heart attack. Take your pick.
It's time to send a message.
Maybe getting all you "die-hard" Democrats to vote everyone out is not feasible, but if you can vote 2 guys out this election, you would send a HUGE message.
Time to vote out Quinn and Durbin. You can still vote in all your "buddies", but being smart like people in Virginia and voting out the incumbent (Cantor) sends a HUGE message to everyone else.
That message? Do your job! Represent MY interest.
If the next guy doesn't perform, vote him out. That's a much better strategy than to re-elect someone who you think is going to work out for you - and never does.
I have talked to many that think Rauner is the death of our pension. Look at IN and WI. Have they even hinted at cutting First Responders?
What evidence is there that our livelihoods are on the chopping block? We actually pay a good portion of our paychecks into our own pension. Look at what has been done to the Unions so far. They have changed only the Unions that had a 'free lunch' deal.
I swear the "Chicken Little' postings are from those Unions and I don't like being manipulated. Relax or site examples. This corrupt State needs some change and Governor Potatohead is more of the same. Rauner may not be Ronald Reagan, he may end up being good, but at least he is some change.
Rauner is a closet democrat.
It's a lose lose for us.
FLOP and DeaNo to Endorse QUINN
Our Dues hard at work for the FEW
I don't know who's the bigger idiot, Quinn himself or the mouth breathers that support him.
If you think that electing Rauner means the death of police and fire pensions in Illinois you are drinking the democrat Kool-Aid. He has called for a 401 K type of retirement for government employees outside of police and fire and yes, that is the only way to save the retirement in the long run. States that have taken away the right to strike from government employees and have gone to right to work laws have actually seen many government employees leave the unions and they have not seen any reduction in pay or benefits. These states are growing much faster then Illinois and people are actually finding good jobs. Don't drink the union koolAid. Illinois is going broke and so is this town.
Anonymous said...
Rauner is no better than Quinn. Maybe be worse. He is a close buddy of our own mayor Raccoon Eyes. He won't be a friend of the police or firefighters when it comes to pensions. When voting for either of these two jerks it's a choice between cancer or a heart attack. Take your pick.
6/13/2014 01:48:00 AM
This comment is such uninformed nonsense
I said it before and I'll say it again: A VOTE FOR RAUNER IS A VOTE FOR RAHM AND THE DEATH OF OUR PENSIONS. The Illinois Policy Institute is Rauner's think-tank on public pensions, they want us in a 401K; they've been told that police and fire are not like other public employees, but they don't care.
Don't vote for Rauner. Period.
Let's put Rahm's BFF in Springfield...great idea
Bye bye pension!
jesse ventura for mayor
Definitely the lesser of 2 evils, but other than talk shit about what Quinn's done (I can't stand him either), Rauner has yet to say what his plan is.
He's striking while the iron's hot but he has yet to say what he plans on doing to right this ship.
Either way, we're screwed...
Be safe!!
I can't see Rauner and Rahm getting along for long. Yeah, Rauner made some nicey-nice comments about Rahm once. They are still in different parties, and I can't see Rahm playing nice with someone higher up on the totem pole than himself.
Is there an Indie candidate? I know it's just throwing my vote away but I just can't vote for either of these goofs in good conscience. I think I'll set up a stand outside the polling place and sell nose plugs.
(OT) say it isn't so! Looks like Rosie andolino is resigning with her qualifications hope she can be replaced lol! According to the sun times before she worked for the city she was a part time makeup salesgirl and a parade queen, yep she's really qualified. She went on to city hall where she worked for "silent Vic" Reyes who ran dales corrupt intergovernmental affairs office scandals broke many went to jail but Rosie Vic receptionist went on to run the department of aviation, yes boys and girls keep quiet you get rewarded, guess that's why those snitch boxes promised never developed. Wonder if there is more to the story? Are the guys as Daley called them "down the street" looking around? Is the new U.S. Attorney Zach Fardon looking?
Bottom line keep your studies going, it's all legit, if you notice something let the boss know but keep quiet your career will skyrocket!
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-chicagos-aviation-chief-leaving-post-later-this-year-20140613,0,708351.story
I'll give Quinn this--He wouldn't just roll over whenever Rahm or Madigan told him to. The Combine is putting Rauner in because they want somebody who will do what he's told.
Anonymous said...
I don't even know what to do with them. Quinn obviously blows but rauner I heard is anti Union.
6/13/2014 12:06:00 AM
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Since when would a working person like unions? Look at the bang up job they're doing with the teachers. Unions are at this point, anti-American, anti-capitalist, anti-anything you should believe in. They got us the 40 hour week, paid vacations and many things we all enjoy now, but at this point, they are the death knell for any economic progress. Look at your co-workers that don't do shit and have the balls to brag they won't do shit. They're protected by the union. I don't support socialist organizations.
The wealth you see around you was never produced by unions or leftists. It was produced by people looking out for their own self interest and making money in the process. The worst robber baron of old is better than the current democrats running our country now.
I have talked to many that think Rauner is the death of our pension. Look at IN and WI. Have they even hinted at cutting First Responders?
What evidence is there that our livelihoods are on the chopping block? We actually pay a good portion of our paychecks into our own pension. Look at what has been done to the Unions so far. They have changed only the Unions that had a 'free lunch' deal.
I swear the "Chicken Little' postings are from those Unions and I don't like being manipulated. Relax or site examples. This corrupt State needs some change and Governor Potatohead is more of the same. Rauner may not be Ronald Reagan, he may end up being good, but at least he is some change.
6/13/2014 05:33:00 AM
Unions are only effective if we stick together, hence the name. Any union member that votes for Rauner is out of his fucking mind. Wisconsin is a fine example, public sector employees (excluding the state police) have had they're right to collective bargaining stripped away. If you want more of the same, by all means vote for the man who's platform is based on union busting.
Furthermore, Rauner is a close friend (as close of an approximation that a sociopath can have) of Rahm. Do not be suprised if the 2 of them collaborate to do an end run around SB 3538.
Kiss your pensions goodbye....
And no, I'm not a die-hard Democrat. I generally vote Republican.
You have to understand that when it comes to Governors races here in Illinois, it's Combine vs. Non-Combine, not R vs. D.
Rauner is the Combine candidate this time.
I voted for Glenn Poshard(D) in 1998 because George Ryan(R) was the Combine candidate. The Daleys, LaSalle St., the Outfit, etc... all wanted Ryan. How did that work out?
Further back in the '80s, I voted for liberal Adlai Stevenson over the corrupt, Combine, police hating Jim Thompson.
Rauner and Rahm are going to steal everything that isn't nailed down to benefit their friends on the north shore.
Wake up.
Quinn only knows how to raise taxes.
Rauner is just as big of a useless piece of crap as Quinn but my new theory on politics and voting is to simply vote out incumbents. The assembly won't mandate term limits? Well, we as voters can "informally" enforce them by voting incumbents out on a regular basis. But then again, most voters in Illinois are too mind controlled to do that.
I'm so over the Illinois government that I signed a petition for some bum running for governor on the L today. That says a lot.
I started to write a lengthy comment and then realized what a worthless and complete waste of time it was.
So here it is in a nutshell: Rahm the cocksucker, Quinn the potatohead, and Rauner the union hater are all dick heads.
We are doomed!
a vote for Rauner is a vote for Rahm........unfortunately
The LAST thing this state needs is more of Quinn. He was handed a golden opportunity to rise to the job after Blago, but instead turned into a disaster. There's reasons why Kass calls him "Governor Jello" and none of them are good for the state.
Anonymous said...
Go ahead, vote Democrat. Give them 4 more years to run Illinois deeper underground.
Then let's see what happens.
6/13/2014 12:45:00 AM
No, better to vote for rauner so he can try to ashcan our pensions and stick us with 401k. You moron, we have to vote for the devil with our interests at heart, rauner is not the one. If you want to give up your pension, go ahead. I retired last year, I sort of need mine.
Get out there and vote. That's all we can do until it's time for the revolution. God save America.
I thought an agreement between mayor Daley,city of Chicago and Chicago police pension fund was made 4 or 5 years ago . Union,pension board agreed to lower benefits for new hires and city agreed to pay a balloon payment by jan 2015 . Police officers never received 80% or a 3% compounded cola . Unless city agrees to 80% and 3% compounded cola for current retires pension to be readjusted , there is nothing to talk about . We were short changed from the beginning . Also no talk of eliminating gold braid pension right now , let current exempts receive pay on the last rank they earned without a merit promotion . Most will receive patrolman pensions . Now that is reform we can live with .
FLOP should endorse but NO!!!
Angelo Family Silent Zzzzzz
Rauner is a closet democrat.
It's a lose lose for us.
..Thanks Jr now shut the fuk up
Know wonder our pension is in jeopardy
Anonymous said...
I said it before and I'll say it again: A VOTE FOR RAUNER IS A VOTE FOR RAHM AND THE DEATH OF OUR PENSIONS. The Illinois Policy Institute is Rauner's think-tank on public pensions, they want us in a 401K; they've been told that police and fire are not like other public employees, but they don't care.
Don't vote for Rauner. Period.
6/13/2014 09:06:00 AM
This statement is such utter crap. Rauner and the think tank do want 401 ks for most public employees but he made exceptions for police and fire. And, even if Rauner wanted a 401K for police it takes legislative action and a change in the Illinois constitution. That will not happen any time soon. Quinn and the democrats have ruined this state and the only way to save it and save the city is by electing people who are fiscal conservatives whether they be democrats, republicans or independents. Rauner does not need the job of governor he is doing it out of civic responsibility. If you don't see that then you have not been looking. The next step for the democrats will be to make the income tax hike permanent in the fall assembly and then plan on a progressive income tax that is scheduled to cap off at 11%.
Anybody but Quinn
Perhaps Rauner (who has so far Failed to mention one word of how he will address IL pension matters), will be good for Illinois on a whole, but my suspicion is that he will carry Rahms re-bid in 2016 along with a special pension relief package where we lose and of course to provide for pal Rahm's future DC debut.
Lets see where the hoopla goes, it doesn't appear Rahm is as giddy about Quinn as he is with Porterhouse Hillary.
My vote is with Quinn unless Brucie can explain his plan to get the State in order.
I'm 100% for Rauner and I know he's going to win. Why do I know? Because the morons here who "support" Quinn won't even get off their fat behinds to vote. I'm one of the 10-15% who votes in every election. The rest of you are a bunch of idiots who will drive 20 miles to save a few bucks in taxes, but you won't walk the two blocks to your local polling place to help decide who gets to raise or lower your taxes.
Anonymous said...
Kiss your pensions goodbye....
And no, I'm not a die-hard Democrat. I generally vote Republican.
You have to understand that when it comes to Governors races here in Illinois, it's Combine vs. Non-Combine, not R vs. D.
Rauner is the Combine candidate this time.
I voted for Glenn Poshard(D) in 1998 because George Ryan(R) was the Combine candidate. The Daleys, LaSalle St., the Outfit, etc... all wanted Ryan. How did that work out?
Further back in the '80s, I voted for liberal Adlai Stevenson over the corrupt, Combine, police hating Jim Thompson.
Rauner and Rahm are going to steal everything that isn't nailed down to benefit their friends on the north shore.
Wake up.
6/13/2014 02:45:00 PM
You Sir/Mam are spoton! I voted for Democrat Glenn Poshard too. Poshard was the outsider, CONSERVATIVE, NON-Machine, Pro-GUN, Pro-Life, Pro-Family candidate. Daley and the entire machine pushed George Ryan the RINO. I will take a CONSERVATIVE Democrat, Independent, whatever over a LIBERAL RINO Machine candidate anyday.
The problem that exists now is that we don't have any choice in the gubernatorial race. Quinn and Rauner are leftwing Democrats/Marxists.
Rauner is and has always been a Democrat Marxist. Rauner is ANTI-Gun, Anti-Life, Anti-Police/Fire, Anti-Family, Pro BIG $$$ and against the middle class.
Rauner made Rahmmie the COMMIE!
Rauner made Rahmmie the Commie 18 million dollars, they are connected at the hip.
Vote for every race except the Governor's race. Either way you go you lose!
We must abstain from cutting our own throats. No more Illinois fixed races, they own both horses.
Show the Machine that we see that this is nothing but a charade.
Vote for Jim Oberweis, support real conservatives!
Quinn will bankrupt Illinois!
Rauner will enrich his billionaire friends while bilking Illinois into bankruptcy.
Either way you go in this race you lose!
Anonymous said...
Rauner is no better than Quinn. Maybe be worse. He is a close buddy of our own mayor Raccoon Eyes. He won't be a friend of the police or firefighters when it comes to pensions. When voting for either of these two jerks it's a choice between cancer or a heart attack. Take your pick.
6/13/2014 01:48:00 AM
This comment is such uninformed nonsense
No, Rauner thinks Springfield's current pension reform attempts don't go far enough. Rauner is friends with Rahm, and choosing between Rauner and Quinn is like choosing between two different catastrophies.
a vote for Rauner is a vote for Rahm........unfortunately
THANKS Shut the fuk up
A Vote for Quinn Sinks our Pension
Kiss your pensions goodbye....
With Gov Quinn
One Party Rule
Time to End the madness
Words of the leader of ISIS when he was released by U S in 2009 (spoken to U S Commander of Bucca prison camp for insurgents)...... "I'll see you in New York".
Terrorists Let out by Omamma and the Democrats
Remember the next Gov of IL will be able to replace a retiring Sen. Durbin
Quinn equals Senator Rham
Everybody is missing the big picture. The Governor is not the real power. The Il House and Senate both have super-majorities, so they can override any governors veto. Rauner as Gov can't change anything unless Madigan allows it to happen. All the anti-union stuff that's been passed the last 2 yrs has been done by DEMOCRATS. They are not our friends any more than the Republicans.
Incumbents need to be voted out period!!!
Stop kidding yourself, it doesn't matter. We the police don't vote.
Neither Quinn nor Rauner can do anything about pensions. That is all Madigan and Cullerton at the state level and Rahm and Burke for the city. At least Rauner will fight with Madigan, unlike Quinn. Voting out all aldercreatures and Emanual would be a huge plus for all police and fire!
As for FLOP, can you name ANYTHING that they have done for you in the past 5 years? NOTHING! They are just sucking up the dues and living the grand life.
"Further back in the '80s, I voted for liberal Adlai Stevenson over the corrupt, Combine, police hating Jim Thompson."
Governor of Illinois, 1949 to 1953,Stevenson suffered a fatal heart attack on the afternoon of July 14, 1965.
Then again this is Illinois maybe he did vote for a dead guy.
I thought an agreement between mayor Daley,city of Chicago and Chicago police pension fund was made 4 or 5 years ago . Union,pension board agreed to lower benefits for new hires and city agreed to pay a balloon payment by jan 2015 . Police officers never received 80% or a 3% compounded cola . Unless city agrees to 80% and 3% compounded cola for current retires pension to be readjusted , there is nothing to talk about . We were short changed from the beginning . Also no talk of eliminating gold braid pension right now , let current exempts receive pay on the last rank they earned without a merit promotion . Most will receive patrolman pensions . Now that is reform we can live with
Heres the highlights of the bill passed 3 1/2 years ago SB 3538. It retains benefit for current police and does not make officers contribute additional money to the pension. It also forces and mandates the city to pay their share starting with the payment of 600 million in 2015. That will make the pension at 90% by 2040 Its a done deal, but the city doesnt want to abide by the law and pay their share(doesnt that sould like what thjey have been doing for the last 25 years that got us into this mess). No they would rather scare the police to have them be willing to pay 3% in additional contributions into the pension fund so they dont have to. If absolutely NOTHING is done because of SB3538 we will not lose benefits nor have to pay additional pensions contributions and the pension fund will be fine. Check the limk below. Important paragragh below the chart
http://www.civicfed.org/civic-federation/blog/senate-bill-3538-police-and-fire-pension-reforms
Anyone who is close with the 9 didgit midget is suspect. Mayor Midget doesn't support anyone unless it's going to help him 100 fold.
10:54...
Hopefully Rahm goes home to DC sooner then later.
Get him the fuck out of the Mayor's office. I was really hoping he'd run against Kirk and win.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
I'll give Quinn this--He wouldn't just roll over whenever Rahm or Madigan told him to. The Combine is putting Rauner in because they want somebody who will do what he's told.
6/13/2014 12:48:00 PM
True; he always waits a couple weeks before rolling over for them.
The fact Ms Dias Griffin started this poll says alot. She also puts her money behind diluting the bargaining power of teachers. Oh, by the way her husband is the guy that just gave Rauner $2.5 million.
The Illinois Policy Institute has a plan to fix the Chicago pension crisis.
http://www.illinoispolicy.org/wp-content/files_mf/1402069335Saving_Chicago.pdf
Would you guys approve?
Anonymous said...
The fact Ms Dias Griffin started this poll says alot. She also puts her money behind diluting the bargaining power of teachers. Oh, by the way her husband is the guy that just gave Rauner $2.5 million.
6/14/2014 01:14:00 PM
C'mon, just a coincidence.
I will trust Rauner more to come up with a solution to the Pension Problem than Bajo-Eyes Quinn, who can't be trusted at all, after giving us the 67 % "Temporary" Tax Increase thats now permanent. I'd rather bet on Rauner with a solid business background than the Buffet-King Quinn the Dunce-o-crat. Fuck him and his Union Snakes.
Unions are only effective if we stick together, hence the name. Any union member that votes for Rauner is out of his fucking mind. Wisconsin is a fine example, public sector employees (excluding the state police) have had they're right to collective bargaining stripped away. If you want more of the same, by all means vote for the man who's platform is based on union busting.
Furthermore, Rauner is a close friend (as close of an approximation that a sociopath can have) of Rahm. Do not be suprised if the 2 of them collaborate to do an end run around SB 3538.
Thats Bullshit. Those States still have the same Unions, they're just not allowed to bully and intimidate workers who dont want to be part of them anymore. Further, those States are doing much better than corrupt Illinois, which is swirling around the toilet drain, with NO Intelligent Leadership, and nothing but Sxams for Plans to fix it. Unions are just like the obama's, living High off the Hog, off of other peoples Money, and lying constantly while doing nothing to find a solution, other than exasserbating the problems, which are now so bad because of them that thwy are ir-repairable in our Lifetimes. Unions and Democrats = Rat-Poison and Arsenic.
Anonymous said...
I said it before and I'll say it again: A VOTE FOR RAUNER IS A VOTE FOR RAHM AND THE DEATH OF OUR PENSIONS. The Illinois Policy Institute is Rauner's think-tank on public pensions, they want us in a 401K; they've been told that police and fire are not like other public employees, but they don't care.
Don't vote for Rauner. Period.
No, Quinn and the Democrats are the ones who are gonna go after your Pensions, as soon as they get re-elected. Remember the Daleys who stole Millions of the Police Pension Funds, never paid them back? These parasites have already stripped the Middle Class Taxpayers dry with excessive Taxation, Fees, and corruption Scandals, and WILL go after ANY source of other People's Money they can get their filthy, thieving paws on. That means your Pensions. Don't let the Foxes B.S. you into letting themselves back into the Henhouse again. They WILL steal anything they can get access to, here in Illinois, and Nationwide, and will continue to sell everything of Value left here in America, if they can, to feed their uncontrollable greed. It's no longer the Republican Party that's the Party of the Rich, it's the Democrats. Rich from stealing other peoples money, not earning money or doing anything to bring in revenue to our Country, just selling us out..
Anonymous said...
I'm 100% for Rauner and I know he's going to win. Why do I know? Because the morons here who "support" Quinn won't even get off their fat behinds to vote. I'm one of the 10-15% who votes in every election. The rest of you are a bunch of idiots who will drive 20 miles to save a few bucks in taxes, but you won't walk the two blocks to your local polling place to help decide who gets to raise or lower your taxes.
6/13/2014 08:25:00 PM
Hey, wait a minute! You're trying to use that "reverse psychology" on me, aren't you?
As for FLOP, can you name ANYTHING that they have done for you in the past 5 years? NOTHING! They are just sucking up the dues and living the grand life.
AMEN FLOP needs to go
"... I'd rather bet on Rauner with a solid business background than the Buffet-King Quinn the Dunce-o-crat. Fuck him and his Union Snakes"
What exactly is Rauner's business acumen? I wonder if you'll date to be honest with yourself?
The issue isn't Quinn. It is Rahm and Madigan and the reverends.
http://chicagotonight.wttw.com/2014/04/15/rauner-wants-special-deal-police-firefighter-pensions
I would vote for Daffy duck before I give a memorat a vote.
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