Interesting CompStat Numbers
A liberal mayor + CompStat = shootings through the roof - it's not just a Chicago phenomenon:
- The number of shooting victims has skyrocketed across the city this year — up 43 percent in just the last month — while fewer guns are coming off the streets, NYPD statistics reveal.
Police Commissioner Bill Bratton has repeatedly shifted the focus from shootings to a steep decline in homicides, and claims he is not worried about the gun violence.
But sources told The Post it will only get worse in the hotter summer months, and that the alarming trend is the result of a more “reactive” police force handicapped by the inability to use tactics like stop-and-frisk.
“Cops aren’t putting their hands on anyone,” a source said.
In the last month alone, 129 people were shot, according to the latest CompStat figures, or 43.3 percent more than for the same period last year.
Since January, there has been an overall 13.2 percent increase in shooting victims, while 10.2 percent fewer guns have been recovered compared to 2013.
Not that you can really trust CompStat statistics since they're mostly lies, but it would certainly be interesting to get hold of Chicago stats and plug them into a spreadsheet and compare them to NEw York City over the same 2013/2014 time periods. You might see similar increases in people shot, guns (not) recovered, and who knows what else. The description of the NYPD in survival mode certainly sounds familiar.
posted by SCC at 12:05 AM
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Liberals always have been pro criminal and sympathetic towards criminals. Heck most to the democratic leadership is fighting to give felons the right to vote. The only times they support local/state police is when they can use them against their political opponents.
Makes perfect sense to me. Society has the type of police they want. They would rather more people shot then the police out offending people.
“Cops aren’t putting their hands on anyone,” a source said.
And why would we?
For an ungrateful public? Read the comments at Chicago breaking news, tribune or sun times. Any time we put hands on someone, they want us crucified at State and Madison.
For a department that only sticks its neck out for the clouted few? Ask Cozzi or Howard how many people gave them job offers. ZERO. All those bossed who left CPD ant went on to other things, none of them offered to employ either Cozzi or Howard.
Of course either one of two things account for the drop in homicides. First, the shooters are bad shots or second, the hospitals are doing a great job at saving lives.
Bullshit+ or- =bullshit.
No surprise.
I believe it. As ANOVs increase so does the crime as the bad guy knows that even when stopped by the police he has little chance of going to jail. Less people getting locked up means more people on the street. More people on the street means more chance of confrontation and, bingo, the shootings and murders go up.
SCC...I don't care what's the percentage of "pieces of S#&T" getting killed or wounded.
What I really care, is how much of the tax payers money is spent on the yearly basis to resuscitate these MO-FOS?
That's the real question!
The government has no money for schools, city services, pensions etc.
But we have money to keep these Fuckers alive?
Watch their numbers rise as Mayor Diblasio pushes for his kinder NYPD. Wonder what will happen here when Preckwinkle is Mayor???
"Stop and Frisk" (liberal douchebag speak)encounters are down 86% compared to 2013.
This is the result.
Garry and Rham can only lie and say crime is down for so long.
Nobody feels crime is down. Especially people in tax paying areas that have had police resources stolen from them to give to the ghetto.
Remember where Garry came from?
cant change or fix numbers, too bad for you Mcjag and rahmmie
‘Wow’: Journalist Attempts to ‘Debunk’ Anti-Gun Group’s List of ‘School Shootings in America Since Sandy Hook’ — Here’s What He Found
http://www.theblaze.com
Over the past few years the ability to use cell phones to record us made a lot of officers stop putting hands on people. It will never go back to the way it was. I don't see anyone do what they used to do because we as police are always shown as the bad guys. Inspiring journalists only want to record us because they want to "catch" us doing anything out of line.
Well, who didn't see this coming after that ijit Libtard Fed judge Shira Scheindlin went into her full marxist mode on 'Stop-Question-and Frisk' and then the new mayor Bill de Blasio (Communist-Nicaragua) dropped the appeal.
An appeal which NYC would have won hands friggen down given that it was already ruled constitutional by the Supreme Court. And the teeny fact that the United States Court of Appeals for the Second Circuit blocked said order requiring changes to the New York Police Department's stop-and-frisk program. Then!..the court took unprecedented action and removed that marxist hag Judge Scheindlin from the case for unethical fucking behavior! [this broad is the poster girl for the Impeachment of Federal Judges]
----- I'll bust a gut if NYPD Commish Bill Bratton pulls a McFailure and blame NY state's "lax gun laws" (rotflmao). That'd be f--kin' priceless. -----
Scc the media is paid and bought for!
You can give hints and clues but they will not touch any of this.
Let them worry about lights downtown and trump tower signs!
Little do they see that Downtown is being taken over slowly by thugs!
Do they see overtime for extra officers being slyly applied to shore up Wabash and Michigan ave?
Thefts are up!!!
They should be Robbery's!
Thefts from buildings up.
They should be burglary.
but that is to complicated for reporters with English degrees
who investigate with the internet. They love trolling police websites...
a department that only sticks its neck out for the clouted few? Ask Cozzi or Howard how many people gave them job offers. ZERO. All those bossed who left CPD ant went on to other things, none of them offered to employ either Cozzi or Howard.
Remember Cozzi hit a goof with a sap on camera. It's all about the perception.
Odds are McCarthy is gone, and really like him or hate him the pressures in this city by the elected like rahm are excessive, the country is in shambles, there are literally over 100,000 kids illegals being pushed across the borders, they want all the freebies, yet we have a decorated Marine in a scumbag prison in Mexico being tortured everyday but the guy Obama has not called his friend the president of Mexico to demand they free the Marine who did 2 tours in Afghanistan.
Eric cantor the 8 term moron lost yesterday to a barely funded tea party candidate " can you hear us now" now we have idiots waiting all night for Hillary's deeply discounted ( means cannot sell many) book. Grandma Hillary please Step aside after Barry we cannot have another faker in charge!
You can trace the story in Chicago right to the doorstep of Obama and the ONLY legislation in Illinois he deemed important, Racial Profiling on Traffic Stops. With the current Administration in D.C. any non Black officer of ANY other race is on his own against a Law and Order hating regime. Remember, "Don't Act Stupidly"!!!!!!!
You hear Obama crying about more gun control it's not gun control it's criminal control Daley started it here now New York has it these fucked up politicians are the ones to blame bring back stop and frisk get aggressive with street stops on vehicles your best defense is a strong offense but sissy boys like the president who has never played organized sports and politicians who think the same way have ruined this country by handcuffing police nationwide they are the ones we have to rid of before we can get a handle on things not gun control.
Do Not , search anyone or any vehicle for drugs , it could cost you your job for an unlawful search . If you suspect a weapon , definitely do a thorough search .
Back each other up , write every report necessary , that 19p means less crime and less police officers hired .
Challenge your sgt if requested to change a report , ask if he is ordering you to change classification . If he is enter in narrative , per order of . Be careful out there .
ot:
New research takes a look at decades of corruption convictions to find the crookedest states in the union.
When we think of government corruption (as one tends to do), our biased minds often gravitate to thoughts of military juntas and third world governments. But, of course, corruption is everywhere, in one form or another. And it’s costing U.S. citizens big time.
A new study from researchers at the University of Hong Kong and the Indiana University estimates that corruption on the state level is costing Americans in the 10 most corrupt states an average of $1,308 per year, or 5.2% of those states’ average expenditures per year.
The researchers studied more than 25,000 convictions of public officials for violation of federal corruption laws between 1976 and 2008 as well as patterns in state spending to develop a corruption index that estimates the most and least corrupt states in the union. Based on this method, the the most corrupt states are:
1. Mississippi
2. Louisiana
3. Tennessee
4. Illinois
5. Pennsylvania
6. Alabama
7. Alaska
8. South Dakota
9. Kentucky
10. Florida
That these places landed on the list isn’t exactly surprising. Illinois, which has gain notoriety for its high-profile corruption cases in recent years, is paired with states like Mississippi and Louisiana, which are some of the least economically developed in the country. The researchers also found that for 9 out of the 10 of the most corrupt states, overall state spending was higher than in less corrupt states (South Dakota was the only exception). Attacking corruption, the researchers argue, could be a good way to bring down state spending without hurting services that people need.
Researchers also found that spending in these states was different than their less corrupt counterparts. According to the report, “states with higher levels of corruption are likely to favor construction, salaries, borrowing, correction, and police protection at the expense of social sectors such as education, health and hospitals.”
The paper explains that construction spending, especially on big infrastructure projects, is particularly susceptible to corruption because the quality of large, nonstandard projects are difficult for the public to gauge, while the industry is dominated by a few monopolistic firms. Corrupt states also tend to, for obvious reasons, simply have more and better paid public servants, including police and correctional officers. The researchers argue that the need for correctional officers is greater in corrupt places too because “the overall extent of corruption will be higher in states with higher numbers of convictions of public officials.”
Of course, it’s not all bad news, as the study also found the least corrupt states too. Citizens of these states–Oregon, Washington, Minnesota, Nebraska, Iowa, Vermont, Utah, New Hampshire, Colorado, and Kansas–can take solace in the fact that they’re not getting ripped off as badly as the rest of us.
Editor’s note: A previous version of this story incorrectly referred to Indiana University as the University of Indiana.
Thomas R Machnitzki/Wikimedia
OT: McIdiot said " I'm beaten up but a survivor" STFU. You had a grabber because of a shitty diet.
399's on first watch make it possible for bad guys to get away and walk the streets. They prevent and discourage proactive police work. I like it. It makes my job much easier. I wish we had more house mouse bosses.
OT - what about this approach to next Superintendent? http://www.post-gazette.com/local/city/2014/06/11/Peduto-announces-major-public-input-for-police-chief-search/stories/201406110147
Don't know about anywhere else but as far as Policing in Chicago is concerned, everyone must've missed the immense >THUD!< of an entire police delartment sitting on it's "revenue generators" (hands) around the time Shortshanks took a deliberate shit on our contract and tainted the arbitration process while hurting OUR ability to make money...
Daley didn't want to pay us above and beyond because the big money diversion was in full swing...
Yet he was pissed because coppers responded to being cut out of the revenue stream by not generating revenue!
CPD WAS the biggest revenue generator in the city for many years.
Things changed when the mayor snatched control of the CPD Budget away from the superintendent. (a move that was purely about politics and control)
Now CPD has to beg for crumbs from the general fund as the mayor sees fit which is why manpower is destroyed, training is shit, equipment is shittier still and morale (FART! - STINK! "Huh? Whazzat?) is a word not found in the North Shore Shit-Ass Thesaurus.
Don't let any of the above derail the ongoing "Great Hate" propaganda campaign against The Police in this town...
"It's The Police who are the problem in Chicago... Once we fix THEM, everything else will fall in place..."
"We're gonna stick it in the cops ear..."
"You guys are gonna have to learn to bleed."
God Bless Miriam Santos because at least HER heart was in the right place. She was just up against the Daley Inc. criminal/political/ corporate & media apparatus in trying to keep hem from stealing our pensions outright... They were angry beyond measure because "all dat free money jest sittin' over dere doin' nuttin' fer US!" and she had the nerve to tell them "NO!"
FAST FORWARD @ A DECADE: (That means you too local media.)
One of the Daley royal nephews Richard Vaneko and his "business partner" Allison Davis (DV Realty) were mysteriously "gifted" with multiple millions in Police Pension Fund Monies to "invest" in an already tanking real estate market...
As of 11 June 2014 that money is STILL unaccounted for and questions STILL have yet to be asked or answered...
>Nobody STILL ain't sayin' shit about those millions Daley flew off with to "bid" on the 2016 Olympics with... All indications are it's an intelligent guess that it WAS Police Pension Money percolated thought DV Realty<
Rahm is a "cleaner" sent here to cover Daley's tracks and make a little scratch for himself while destroying a Police Department.
Perfect crime... There will be no victim(s) to make whole when the pension is imploded and a lot of dirty people are counting on Policemen to be "true" to their oath while everyone else has air and opportunity to lie, misstate and renege with impunity.
Just killin' time to see where "The Great Hate" against Policemen eventually crashes since we're thought of as the problem.
"If you guys would just sit down, shut up and generate some revenue/fight some of this crime/generate some activity, things would be ok!"
Until?
To the civilians who claim to be our supporters?
You had ample opportunity to make your voices heard in that regard but you opted to remain silent... Now you have a mayor who thinks very little of you and what you have to say.
Your unwillingness to take a stand with your Police has resulted in the wholesale concession of the streets of this city to the permanent criminal underclass who now outnumber tax payers.
Who the fuck do you think the mayor, the city council, the media and all others are going to cater to?
You exist to pay their way by the sweat of your brow but you will not be allowed to reap any benefit...
It's 25 years too late to start talking about "We Support The Police."
The ball is in YOUR court!
Put my hands on people? Have these "citizens" noticed what a bunch of shit talking, ready to fight ANYONE these criminals are? They are ready to show just anyone how much of a bad ass they are and anyone that deals with them that backs down from their shit is viewed as a bitch. A police officer can't allow this if he is going to deal with these asses. So, since John Q. Liberal Citizen is worried about these feral beasts rights and that they be treated with kid gloves, you tend to leave them alone since getting rough with them when they talk about fucking your wife, daughters, sisters and anyone that you care about. How about this John Q, what statute did they violate by telling you they're going to butt fuck you and rape your female family members? Since there is no real law violated, how do you arrest them? What is your response to them?
You don't make society safer by putting a muzzle on the sheep dogs that are fending off the wolves. So, alligator arms and less interaction with them is what you get.
OT. Any house mouse out there know where the sgt. Test results are?
http://www.ward49.com/participatory-budgeting/
I was thinking, according to the site above, each alderman gets 1 million dollars, not including the cost of salary and there workers, to do what they like to improve their wards.
That is 50 million dollars that the aldermans are getting that has yet to be used to fix much at all in most of the wards.
That is basically 50 million dollars that could of gone into the pension fund that the mayor has been looking for. So instead of increasing property taxes why not reduce the funding and the number of aldermans. We sure as hell do not need 50 of them.
First E'wood, now this. Spreads fast, huh?
Cops investigate 8 torched cars in Wrigleyville
1:28 p.m. CDT, June 11, 2014
"Chicago police are continuing to investigate a series of arson fires that destroyed eight vehicles in the Wrigleyville neighborhood on Tuesday, officials said today.
"The vehicles were set on fire on the 3500 block of North Wilton Avenue and the flames extended to a canopy over the cars..."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cops-investigate-8-torched-cars-in-wrigleyville-20140611,0,5907882.story
OT --
Persona non grata; sensible Cicero saves itself a s__tload of trouble and expense --
Cicero police: Chief Keef concert canceled amid security concerns
1:57 p.m. CDT, June 11, 2014
"A concert starring controversial rapper Chief Keef scheduled to take place this weekend in Cicero has been canceled amid security concerns, police said.
"Cicero Police Supt. Bernard Harrison said the Saturday night concert at the theater has been canceled because authorities fear Chief Keef’s presence could cause chaos and violence..."
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/chi-cicero-police-chief-keef-concert-canceled-amid-security-concerns-20140611,0,547678.story
This will give Nothing here more "street cred," which will hang until someone kills him out front of some "club" -- after which he will be forgotten three minutes after the funeral/repast/liquor drink/AK-47 shoot ends.
"RIP" tats, airbrush shirts, "Aaa, aaa, aaa, mah baby just gettin a start," collapsin on the sidewalk for the TV, s__t. The defectives look forward to all this. They enjoy it.
Ho hum.
$30 stack behind in rent and getting evicted too.
http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/suburbs/highland_park_deerfield/-chief-keef-evicted-20140610,0,7439738.story
"Got out of the hood" except you dragged the whole thing along with you.
Rappers climbin the ladder to success -- of that there can be no doubt.
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You mean a stupid mayor. That is why he is also a one term mayor.
Hey Tough Guy, re your interview in the SunTimes--we had a functioning police department before you blew into town and we will have one when you blow out of here. Granted it would function a lot better if the politicians let us do our job but isn't really my point here. And as for you "not letting the men and the mayor down", it is 2014 not 1974 (mustache aside) so try to acknowledge the fact that women also fall under your esteemed leadership.
Anonymous Anonymous said...
OT. Any house mouse out there know where the sgt. Test results are?
6/11/2014 03:47:00 PM
A good source at headquarters said they were mailed out today.
If anyone believes Comstat statistics then they are just plain dumb.
Why would anyone believe any of these numbers? Why even consider them? Because the leadership knows of their lack of ability and depend on the numbers to show that they are actually trying to accomplish something. All nonsense. Started with Cline's DOC meetings while SOS were doing their thing.
Since someone brought up money, let's ask the question. How much money has the city realized from the video gaming machines put in bars and restaurants across the city?
Approximately 3000 in number. About the number that would be in a casino?
Welcome to Rahm's Chicago where a m/fer can't even be happy!
Scum Times online...
"Man Says Woman's Happiness Triggered Assault"
Woman walking her child home from school gets attacked by some mouth-breather...
The city you see is the city they want.
Too bad she didn't have a sub-compact .45 caliber breath mint dispenser...
Cure for the stinkin' thinkin' right through his front teeth at 1100 feet per second then get in the wind...
Let the Police find this stinking hyena's carcass wearing a ghoul mask... A toothless mouth blown inside out with a backless skull...
The daughter would likely be traumatized but she'll get over it. Good kid... She ran and got Dad and the mutt looks like Dad combed his hair for him a little judging by the picture.
OT
Anyone listen to Toni Periwinkle on WGN? She said judging by the jails, one would think the whole population of cook county is black. What a race baiting asshole! If you don't want to do time, don't do the crime. FYI Toni, more people arrested in crook county are bonded out or released due to a judge's ruling of no probable cause than locked up. Hence the problem with repeat offenders. If she runs for mayor, police will have a serious problem.
OT: Breaking news: Chicago doesn't like Mayor Rahm!
Posted by Ben Joravsky on Wed, Jun 11, 2014 at 4:37 PM
IJS
what difference does it make ?
Where are the new Sgt. Going?
All those bossed who left CPD ant went on to other things, none of them offered to employ either Cozzi or Howard.
And just how, Oh Bright One, do you propose that any of 'those bosses' who left the CPD (and likely went on to work in or for other law enforcement agencies) manage to hire either one of those convicted felons?
(crickets chirping)
Anonymous said...
399's on first watch make it possible for bad guys to get away and walk the streets. They prevent and discourage proactive police work. I like it. It makes my job much easier. I wish we had more house mouse bosses.
6/11/2014 01:13:00 PM
I hope you are being sarcastic. The house mouses are threatening to deny time and days off. Not doing much at work is one thing but I enjoy spending time with my family. Those 2 along with the desk sgt on the same watch can gtfo!
cops aren't putting their hands on anyone
Good. If you have PROBABLE CAUSE, by all means, go put hands on them. If you don't, then leave them the fuck alone.
And when you do have probable cause, and catch them doing something wrong, put them in PRISON so they don't reoffend. (note, I don't blame the cops for the failure to do the latter... I blame prosecutors and judges for being pussies)
Anonymous said...
Anonymous said...
399's on first watch make it possible for bad guys to get away and walk the streets. They prevent and discourage proactive police work. I like it. It makes my job much easier. I wish we had more house mouse bosses.
6/11/2014 01:13:00 PM
I hope you are being sarcastic. The house mouses are threatening to deny time and days off. Not doing much at work is one thing but I enjoy spending time with my family. Those 2 along with the desk sgt on the same watch can gtfo!
6/12/2014 11:34:00 AM
They pretend to know what they are doing. Leave them alone and stay away. They don't know anything about the job but to be taken care of. Stay away?
I want to meet the guy that calls the BOSS Mcidiot, Call me, better yet meet me at the next union meeting, I will be wearing the guy wearing a pink tie... THe only one with a pink tie....I'll bet you don't show . Here is your homework project...What has the BOSS done wrong.....
Dear Second City, I know you read every post before you post. Please email me, one day to talk, I would like you debate the negative posts about the BOSS. You know my ISP address....I believe you are doing more harm than good. Coppers need direction, not the ability to complain and rant.... 35th
Anonymous said...
I want to meet the guy that calls the BOSS Mcidiot, Call me, better yet meet me at the next union meeting, I will be wearing the guy wearing a pink tie... THe only one with a pink tie....I'll bet you don't show . Here is your homework project...What has the BOSS done wrong.....
6/12/2014 09:21:00 PM
I agree with you. McCarthy has done good things for the department even though he has been under severe restraints by Rahm, such as manpower. He has been much better then ANY superintendent appointed by Daley. I go back a long way and I miss Rochford, Fred Rice, Conlisk. They were leaders and really had compassion for individual officers who were hard workers but fell on misfortune and they stood behind you. I cannot say that for one of Daley's appointees .
Anonymous said...
OT: McIdiot said " I'm beaten up but a survivor" STFU. You had a grabber because of a shitty diet.
6/11/2014 12:47:00 PM
You really do not know what you talk about. Bad diet could be one of the causes, but not always. genetics plays the largest part as does stress.Just be glad it wasn't you.Never wish the other guy bad luck.
I want to meet the guy that calls the BOSS Mcidiot, Call me, better yet meet me at the next union meeting, I will be wearing the guy wearing a pink tie... THe only one with a pink tie....I'll bet you don't show . Here is your homework project...What has the BOSS done wrong.....
You will be lonesome. No one will show up. They complain about McCarthy, but there are less murders with less police and if prior supts were so good why are we in this position now? Murders should be going up.
Dear Second City, I know you read every post before you post. Please email me, one day to talk, I would like you debate the negative posts about the BOSS. You know my ISP address....I believe you are doing more harm than good. Coppers need direction, not the ability to complain and rant.... 35th
6/12/2014 09:29:00 PM
It's a trap!!!
Mr Superintendent, I would first like to say that I'M sorry you are ill and hope you recover 100 percent. We need you on that wall, we want you on that wall. We need a leader and you are it. I'm sorry and embarrassed by my fellow co-workers "YOUR COPS" The cry babies and people who always complaint do not represent the majority. These are the same useless dogs asses who do nothing all day. I'm Sorry
I see the Superintendent's policy group is weighing in. I am curious. What good things has this Superintendent done for the Department. I can't honestly think of one.
One of the neat things about being in the burbs is that we get the news from Chicago and Milwaukee. The latter also has a crime problem and too many shootings as well. But there are some differences.
First, the mayor and chief actually give a shit and aren't afraid to let the police do their job. Second, the people in the neighborhoods are getting sick of the assholes and are demanding that the politicians and police turn up the heat. Third, there's a sheriff (although politically motivated like most sheriffs) who is a black Buford Pusser and asserts that the mayor and police aren't doing enough. In other words, little sympathy for the dirtbags. What a difference!
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